 Great, but today you got a lot of things to go over. So let's just jump right in first thing I want to talk about is a little perspective as they call it from the mooch from Anthony scary mooch And then we'll take a look at finite verse scarce markets and of course watch the tops as we take a look at some Interesting indicators also take a look at what's world mobile and we'll take a look at actually what it is What's new what are the challenges and we're gonna bring in Mickey walkins the CEO and we did an interview already and He tells us exactly what world mobile is going to do and the difficulties that they are faced with right now But I gotta tell you it's looking very promising and then we talk about The interaction with Mark Cuban and then this little update and then after that we'll do a little Q&A So before we get into it welcome back everybody, you know, I've been on a little hiatus lately Health hasn't been the best, but I think I figured it out Just gonna take a little bit of time for me to get back up to speed but doing pretty good so I want to start with today with There was a snippet a segment with Anthony scare moochie and he was on MSNB CRC and we see and he talks about What he's doing with his clients and how he sees things and it was five minutes I'm gonna chop it down to one and It makes a lot of sense. I just want you to listen to this before we get into some other stuff So let me bring this up mute myself When this stuff happens, I just want to remind people there are only 21 million bitcoins out there And you'll have a demand shock with very little supply So Anthony for Ethereum specifically it sounds like a long-term your believer But short term there is a trade that will likely happen. Is the coin fund trading around that at all? Actually, no, we're we're long it. I'm trying to condition clients to just stay in there There's no reason for us to create that friction. I think you and I know Melissa See you talk about this on fast money if you're out of the market for the 10 best days You've reduced your return from like a seven and a half percent return to a 2% return That's the overall stock market. And so I don't want to start herking and jerking the portfolio based on emotion Again, we're up 45 percent since like we last spoke. We did nothing But hold the positions and stick to our discipline. I think that's the message. I'm trying to send to investors See through this on there's a lot of short-term people There's a lot of research departments in different wire houses that have knee-jerk reactions to things and they get overly emotional We're trying to tell people just relax see through this We see a pretty optimistic scenario for Bitcoin, Ethereum Solana and Algorand over the next 12 to 24 months Yeah, so I couldn't say any better I mean look 45% is perhaps doing absolutely nothing just sitting around and of course There's always gonna be the traders out there like well, you know You could make a lot of money right now by selling and getting back in and jumping around and doing all those things We can do that and that's great I mean if you really want to do those types of things but for me I don't really want to sit around and and look at charts all day and then hopefully and then capital gains tax and all Those things just gets a bit confusing. I want to remind everybody of this which is This was a tweet I put out Gosh January 7th 2021. I said fun facts 2009 if you invested in 99 cents in the gold you'd have two bucks today. That's pretty good. You doubled your money in Gosh 11 years if you invested one cent in the Bitcoin you would have over 37,000 dollars That's the difference between scarce and finite supply. You know, there's always gonna be people who are calling for well Bitcoin's going to zero. Well, they've been calling for that for Since it since the inception and we're still doing pretty good. So just remember that Sometimes just a good idea. Just take a step back Just take a look at it's a little bit of the fundamentals and go What do I invest into and how long am I gonna be here? How long is my time horizon for me? Personally, I've got a plan but that plan isn't really going to affect for three five and ten years So let's jump in real quick and take a look at the markets today Markets are boring. I'll be honest with you Bitcoin is pretty much stagnant theorem stagnant down a little bit Cardano's up 3% all right 13.4 for the week Dogecoin up 10% for some reason she but you knew 35 great. I you know, whatever and That's what's going on in the market and then What I want to do is a segment is I did a video It was this is my plan the plan is I've been around since 2017 the plan was to You know and then in the bull run in 2021 My idea was to get out almost 80% and I didn't I got out probably like 50% But I left a lot of money in the table and I want to see there's some better way I could do it And I talked about there's a couple of different Cycle top callers and also bottom cycle bottom callers. This is on my website Dan teaches crypto 100% free will always be free and we just what we go over these seven indicators and somebody said to me they go Rob, that's a great video But who cares because I'm not gonna remember it as time goes on. It was a good point So what I'm gonna do is every video or so I'm just gonna bring out one of those Indicators and just as a reminder these indicators are 100% free they're over at look into bitcoin.com and they are free looks like they're always gonna be free and it's It's actually a pretty good service considering all the fact of the different prices out there And then now this was created by Philip Swift I actually reached out to the team over at looking at Bitcoin And we're gonna get together on the channel and talk about how these things came together, but anyhow Picycle top indicator. Just so you know when the 111 day moving average crosses over the 350 new moving average That's a indicator of a top we talk and we talk about this extensively in this video But just so you know We are not near the top. We are far away That's all you gotta know and then for the nut the net unrealized profit and loss You can see here I like these these indicators because looking at Bitcoin is very simple like green is a good time to buy and like red Is a good time to sell. I like colors. I'm not smart I like the very simple and I'm like, okay So down here around June 13th or so pretty good idea to to to buy into it actually blow this up so you can see it And of course we are not anywhere near the top just so you know So those are two indicators that signify we're not near the top I think which I think everybody knows about all right. So that's the market itself. Let's jump into What's world mobile and a quick disclaimer? So look at these two kids right here? This is me and Mickey Watkins our first video our first deep dive When we talked about what world mobile is and world mobile. There's a link in the description both their websites This is a world mobile. This is world mobile token and essentially what it is is they're using these things called era stats just think of those as blimps really and That is for the line of sight for the telecommunications. They're giving these Solar panels and mesh networks to the people and it's all based on the Cardano network and how it all puts together This there's an actual working product in a couple different villages and they're looking to scale They just haven't scaled right now So the thing I want to do is I want to bring Mickey in and talk to us about first of all He can explain he's a CEO and talk to us about what it exactly is What the problems are and then of course there was a nice little interaction between him and Mark Cuban So I'm gonna let him talk to you about that and this video is or this interview is about 23 minutes or so long so I'll be here afterwards and We'll talk about Do little Q&A, but just as a disclaimer disclaimer is this I'm super biased you have to understand that so The things I talk about on my channel I've invested into on this channel I don't usually talk about things I don't invest into so when I'm talking about something I use I always Almost always have skin in the game So this should come as no surprise that I want this project to succeed I don't think that's outside the realm of Possibility that is somebody invest into something they wanted to succeed and that's why I'm talking to you about it Because I think it's gonna do pretty well, but those are just my thoughts This is not investment of pink. It's not investment advice whatsoever I'm not a financial advisor. Just something to give you a little information. So without further ado, let's jump into Mickey and me in the interview Was promised I want to bring Mickey Watkins back because it's been a year since we last talked just to talk about First of all so he can put in his own words what what world mobile token is and what's going on It's new and then what are the challenges for adoption? I just want to talk about this interaction with Mark Cuban. So Mickey Watkins Thanks for coming back. How are you doing, man? I'm doing well good. I could not believe it was a year ago since we did that that interview It's all that's been like it's not been that long but it has We've talked a few times since then but yeah We haven't been on for a year and we love that first interview and I hope everybody's gonna love love this interview as well Yeah, I'm yeah, I was supposed to meet up with you at consensus and I planned it pretty poorly So we'll get together at some point Anyhow, let's talk about this. Let's let's break into it. I Kind of went over it like what world mobile is It's just sporadically before we talked, but I want it to come from you like what is the the elevator pitch What is world mobile and what's new? I know it's a loaded question, but tell us what it is It's we're a global mobile network built on blockchain We use ground assets and aerial aerial assets So balloons in the sky things called error stats. I like to propagate huge amounts of signal and Across huge areas of lands for the unconnected So there's three billion people unconnected on the planet right now And we have a solution to fix them part of partially is a technology solution The other part is a business solution a sharing economy Gotcha, so yeah, I mean that's that's pretty much in a nutshell, right? So you guys are using balloons on the sky error stats. They don't need to be charged They're solar the solar at the bottom or powered by feed these balloons are attached So they're tethered to the grounds They sit at 300 meters to 1000 meters and they have a custom payload on the bottom of these balloons as well My providers and production team are going to go mad about me calling the balloons They are error stats just for the team out there But the easiest way to explain it is the balloon hoists up with helium a payload that payload has 4g 3g 2g 5g as well as iot lora and sigfox as well as a is for anywhere coastal to be able to track ships and marine life And and fishing so these these error stats are able to not make a smart village or a smart town or a smart city But there several of them make a smart country. Yeah, and I think what's cool is that so they go up? What a thousand feet Yeah You're American. I'm English, but I know it So anyway between 300 meters to to 1000 meters and we're also playing at 20,000 meters But this technology isn't ready for two three years, but eventually it will start at 20,000 meters And then cascade down to reaching points of 1000 meters 300 meters with an entire of the balloons meshed In order to provide signal and and send data around the network Yeah, and then and then so like if they're up a thousand feet They have a line of sight what are you talking about like 60 kilometers somewhere on there So it could it can kind of put that that single all the way out. Well, when you when you're facing down low You can only see really what's in front of you when you're facing up high at 300 meters You can actually see all the way into the horizon. So we've managed to get 70 kilometers 75 kilometers 300 meters, but if you're talking about 20,000 meters stratosphere you're now talking about 700 kilometers But of course you need you need a ladder essentially build up of balloons in order to be able to propagate this the signals Through there, but the line of sight is phenomenal compared to traditional Telecom infrastructure and towers. I gotta tell you it's a pretty genius idea because to build those towers I mean we're talking millions and time and lots of time But we could just use these aerostats put them up there pretty self-sufficient, you know, even if there's there's when there's some kind of like Hurricane gusts forces you can just bring them down and that's a hundred and hundred and thirty kilometers a hundred and thirty kilometers to a hundred six Sixty kilometers an hour they can survive and most places don't have that unless there's a hurricane or tornado if there is We also detect that the the balloon drops down it sits there until the tornado is gone And then all of a sudden it goes back up and when you talk about legacy infrastructure towers and What they cost the thing about a tower is you can't move it So the thing about an aerostat is you can literally bring it down pack it up into a trailer and drive it off into a car park With a high building or over to the side of the mountain or anywhere you want and within just several hours See and this is the thing This is what I think about is you know, you're trying to bring telecommunications the people that don't have it So it'd be so super expensive do that. Why would you even do it? Well, you can do it this way and if we're talking about the the People who don't have these these telecommunications of the ability to do these things You said three billion people Threat the the world. I'm quoting the ITU who say three billion people but From our research and we have a big large research team I would say that up to five billion people on the planet have very very poor internet actually non-functional internet But three billion is still a big enough number for world mobile. Yeah, you've been to Puerto Rico awful internet Sorry Puerto Ricans. It's true. It's awful internet. So you have something like that. It makes sense So that's on on the top Bring us down to the ground level. How does that all work? Because there's a there's a great little video that you have on your website I'm gonna link this down in the description It's all about solar panels putting those up making those those mesh networks and then using everything built on Cardano Walk us through that real quick. So this poll that you see here is an anode on the bottom of that Anode is second-life batteries and then the solar panels on the on the roof of that building there They power this this entire unit people then can plug it by USB or plug into the into the device itself and charge their phones They have a they have a transponder receiver that then picks up signal and talks to the balloons as well as coming in fiber Where we possibly can in the continent of Africa actually it's nearly always pegged by fiber Because there's there's phenomenal fiber within one or two days I can get someone out or our team out to plug into a fiber connection So the balloons are fantastic for providing huge amounts of coverage to make sure that we have ubiquitous coverage in Zones the problem with mesh networks is that when you go from one Wi-Fi point to another Wi-Fi point you lose signal In between those two points. So our network is hybrid the balloons provide the huge amount of coverage for critical data For browsing and the base stations on the ground do all of the offloading for the balloon So we have line of sight coming from the balloon with a multi-point access that connects We get a huge amount of signal and we push it back down to an anode and anode then Pushes across fiber and offloads This is what's wonderful about the hybrid network cellular is made for very long data Being able to spread really well and meshing fantastic But Wi-Fi is made for huge amounts of data, but doesn't have the signal right? So when you combine the two together all of a sudden you've got a hybrid mobile network that is capable of connecting lots of people I'm dealing with lots of data Yeah, I got you so like so here in the States when when there's a a new district a New area that that's being built up usually they'll run sewage water Electricity and of course the cable company will run their fiber optics out there And of course they'll pay for that because they know later on that people are gonna pay for for the cable system So like when when we just took a look at that that image those people putting up the solar panels and things you talked about Who's paying for that? I'm gonna guess that that's through world mobile Whilst we're fine-tuning the sharing economy it has been world mobile So the nodes that we put up that you'll see on WMT scam very shortly They're nodes that have been bought by world mobile But now we're transitioning those for adoption by anode operators Eventually this stage three over the next couple of months will be allowing anybody remotely around the world to own infrastructure And then to pair that with an anode operator in a country So this is the first time anybody's ever been able to own part of a global mobile network actually own it They own the device that can send the device back to them, but could deploy it into areas It's absolutely needed and where they can make revenue. So you're creating small business owners. It sounds like Yeah, all big business owners if you wish to buy a thousand a thousand anodes and propagate them Through Tanzania or Kenya or Nigeria or USA or wherever we are you can you don't need to have any previous experience You need to know how to use the web you need to know how to use a dashboard And you're of course, you need to be able to pay for it Then those nodes are looked after by either yourself if you wish to do such a thing and set them up Or you start to rent them out to people who are called anode operators They maintain them they provide the the location the real estate to go to house them They keep the security and then you split the revenue that runs through that between you yourself yourself and the anode operator Excellent. So then so now we started at the very top. We bring ourselves down Now talk to us how everything is built on Cardano World mobile and how that all works with this sharing economy So the sharing economy is very interesting Namely because two things Beyond all of the benefits of blockchain, which I won't bore everybody about because we know about this But as a telecom company The people who are running the network need to know that they're going to get paid without trust So they need to be paid automatically So we have something that's called a proof of service protocol that has a certain of factors and algorithms that allows us to Understands if a node is really doing what it's meant to do if that node is doing what it's meant to do It doesn't it means that Mickey or my administration team or back office team don't have to issue a payment But actually the payment goes out automatically. So that's one thing on on the other side In order for there to be explosive growth to cover the half the planet that's unconnected And it's actually more than half the planet because people are concentrated One telecom company alone can't do this. So I can go to every VC in the world I can go to every fund and I can raise money But what I can't is raise enough money in enough time to be able to provide a solution for the unconnected Now when you're talking about three billion people, you're talking about nearly half the planet It's the solution that is needed right now It's not a solution that's needed in five years or 10 years or 15 years and the people who need the internet the most And want the internet the most don't have access to it and there's a common denominator here You don't have access to internet. You don't have access to digital ID And there's poverty. There's a lack of health care. There's a lack of education So This is why we use blockchain. This is why we use the token This is why we make it happen like it does because that way we can leads to explosive growth rather than a centralized body That's dependent on us entirely to grow the network Got it. You know like about you make you There's this there's this quote from Albert Einstein and he says everything should be made as simple as possible But not simpler and I like how you make things very simple for me to understand and the people that listen to this video So, thank you. So now let's get to the next one So we we kind of say we took a look at what's world mobile and then we took a look at let's actually take a look at What's new because I know we had talked about getting this in the hands of the people who need it most So how are things moving as far as because we just took a look at Tanzania and that use case How is everything growing and what's new out there for world mobile? We've got a lot of nodes out there now We have hundreds of nodes that the only nodes that we're showing up on Wnt scan and nodes inside the sharing economy That means they've been fine tuned means they're working inside the chip sharing economy It makes sure that it's working on a centralized earth node and with our production and those software So things are moving super super fast. We're very happy at the pace. They couldn't have gone faster I think we're moving faster than any telecom company in history But that will only tell in the next one one or two years because from an outside perspective People want balloons up now people want n nodes up now But you have to do it right because if you don't do it right you can't have this explosive growth At some at some point it kilters and plateaus and then drops off So you've got to have a point where okay world mobile introduces this we get the sharing economy, right? We lay out the first 20,000 nodes and then we do this the fourth stage of the sharing economy, which is allowing we've I've said it online before Tinder so I've never used tinder before but I'm sure some of the viewers have after people so So this is what we want to do We want to be able to have the tinder for telecoms where you're able to own and buy a node And then you're able to find somebody who will take your mode and put it on their real estate So we're one stage before that right now So this initial stage 3 is allowing people to own the node remotely But while mobile is still responsible for making sure that those nodes are put in profitable areas where an ROI can be returned Right because ultimately you have to incentivize a business for people to be incentivized to be in that business So we've grown super fast You can see it if you land in Zanzibar the first error stat is actually going up in the next few weeks And then we'll be documenting that I'll be over there the whole core team be over there the engineering teams We'll be over there We will have some of the the government from Tanzania and Zanzibar that come to to open it And once that error stat is up once that payload is there that very same payloads And a replicas of those very same error stats can now be put into other countries and that's USA as well Right 30% of the landmass of USA is unconnected and 10% of the people are unconnected The big three mobile network operators that I won't name them But everyone can work out who they are and if you just look online at the fines that they're receiving from the FCC And the threats that they're receiving from the FCC by not utilizing their spectrum all of a sudden they have a chance to be able to utilize spectrum with our Modern infrastructure as opposed to their legacy infrastructure and that they can't utilize it with so they're kind of in a loop They're stuck. They're stuck in the box. So what mobile solution in Zanzibar is actually a globally applicable Equitable solution for everywhere else in the world. I Can see it I can see I can see the vision and we talked about it And then of course full disclosure where I talked about this in the beginning before you're on Mickey But again for full disclosure, I am an investor into world mobile and I am an earth note operator proud to be one and Just so you know, I'm super biased. I don't think anybody anybody can take that away from me I'm super biased on this channel. If I don't know what I usually don't talk about it So that's what's going on But you brought up a good point and the things that we were talking about and just to get over these hurdles and just And just to bring this into the right area at the right time Let's talk about what are the challenges that you have right now for adoption because it's got to be massive Because you can only do so much. You can only raise so much like you talked about you can only get things moving What are the challenges right now to get you to the next level of where you guys want to be? Honestly, it's about getting the share in economy right if once you get the share in economy, right? That's it It's done once you work out the recipe For incentivizing people for them to run and operate that infrastructure and maintain that infrastructure That's it the challenges probably on a on a business level the hardest challenges are speaking to regulators and educating them But we spent the last four or five years talking about rewriting policies talking about changing the way that telecoms works Traditionally telecom the genetics the DNA is not to share right is to sell you a bundle of data That then runs out at the end of the month and doesn't roll over and then that changed But that's as close as it's got towards sharing we come in we buy the licenses We buy the spectrum we buy all the different things that we need we write our policies we write our regulations We write terms and conditions and we want to use a share. That's the idea you if without sharing without taking this burden on together without sharing the Rewards and the revenue running from a multi trillion dollar industry this world is not going to be connected and you've seen it You know you see how powerful AT&T are you see how powerful Google are you see how powerful Facebook are? They haven't done it. They've tried right and the technology is out there and we believe that it's not just about the tech Yes, we have patents. Yes, we have incredible technology. Yes. We're working with IOH K Yes, we're working with some of the best people in the world and we employ some of the best people in the world But a big part of it is the sharing economy without that you can't so that has not really been a challenge What has been a challenge mostly is spectrum, right? So spectrum is a national resource is owned by an oligopoly. There's a thousand mobile network operators in the world They had best sitting on maybe a trillion dollars or even two trillion dollars worth of spectrum That's unused and they don't know how to use it So we have cool techniques and really incredible software and hardware that has anti interference For spectrum so walking into a regulator and into a mobile network operating and saying hey Let us use some of your spectrum. They say oh you can't because it's gonna interference gonna disrupt and it's gonna do this We say no, no, no, it's not so we've done a few tests with a few operators And they've started to see what we've got and for them they really do want to use a spectrum They're just scared that They've never done that before they never shared that kind of spectrum So I mean it's happening in the USA You've got the helium and pollen for example who are using CBRS, which is an unlicensed spectrum But that's not happening anywhere else. So and the problem of the unconnected is not just restricted to the continent of Africa It's actually global right where I come from in the UK It's global we're in the Middle East when I travel into into areas. It's global when I move into Africa of course, it's global, but This is a huge problem that everybody wants to fix so hurdles none Hard things educating people as to how we can do things differently and how we can share Gotcha. Yeah, and you know like me if we talk about it people people hear about this project And they immediately think of Africa, but even in America We've got around 330 343 million people or so to look and still like 30 or 40 me for 30 or 40 million people According to the statistic I read is that they they are Inaccessible for telecommunications as well, and that's just in the United States So though so think of those numbers globally and that would lead to I think some pretty good growth I guess that would lead me to my next question and the last one What was this this interaction with with Mark Cuba? I know there was some back and forth and it seemed very friendly But it was all really just about education and I saw this on your on your feed As you We I mean, I think he went head-to-head. I didn't go ahead to heads We saw someone in the community a really cool person that came in and Opened up a new third remark Cuban after he'd dist on on Cardano And then somebody tagged world mobile and then he asked what was the differences between world mobile and helium? I explained that helium have 918,000 nodes And they're owning around six and a half K dollars a month there for their sharing economy and the world mobile I actually had 40 nodes with an up who of three dollars per user and around seven thousand customers Which would be three times more than the entirely a helium network Was was was doing and he's around and said having two people on your network with It's six dollars up who isn't isn't impressive tells me nothing I then posted some screenshots of statistics and WMT scan and some back office stuff And the next thing that we knew he was he was engaging Which is good. He tried to poke As he does on on a shark tank and you know, he's a very clever businessman There's no doubt about that But I just came back with with really clear facts and educated him And I hope and I think that he realizes that there is more utility on Cardano than there is on dodge As was his first his first claim and he rescinded that claim afterwards by saying that Dodges accepted in more places as a payment Mechanism, but I don't think Cardano is is a is a payment mechanism, right? It's a protocol and it's meant to be built upon so it was an enjoyable interaction He was pretty cool the community backed it up and backed me up And I hope that people got to see I'm fully willing to engage with any critics or any haters out there As long as the questions are right and they're coming from the right place Yeah, look and and like I of course people will try to make it more than than what it is But is it it is really just about education. So if you can get into them and go look Mark and we covered this because there was two big things he talked about as far as the bell water of success Which was fees and transactions and of course with fees That's why he likes a theorem because the transaction fees are so high, which is true Let's be honest three dollars five dollars ten dollars for a transaction fee is pretty lucrative But is that lucrative for the people all over the world? No, that's bad deal That's a that's an awful deal, especially if you're trying to do things at scale No one is going to accept that moving forward and that's why they're moving towards the merge So there was that part and then we took a look at the transaction fees for crown very low And I'm probably going to get lower. It was a door swing three dollars and 20 cents on like that and then we took a look at Transactions and transactions per day and of course we took a look at it essentially through Misari and the transactions per day. Yes They were quite high We're taking a look at transactions on july 31st. He had 1.1 Million transactions cardano had 91,000 transactions But then the thing we talked about which was adjusted transaction volume because in cardano you can you can group together multiple tokens and multiple transactions together and just one and send things over and this adjusted transaction volume Where they try to remove some type of non economic transactions back and forth Ethereum was still pretty high and let's be honest 1.5 billion And that was just in one day in july 31st But cardano did have a lot 7.8 billion. You can't use Sorry to interrupt you. I'll go ahead you can't Whether mark cuban or anybody else wants to believe or doesn't believe We are chosen blockchain is cardano When we connect just 10 percent of the unconnected users in kenya and tanzania and we're talking 30 million users in Unconnected in tanzania approximately. We're talking about 22 million 23 million people unconnected in kenya Approximately You're talking about taking 10 percent of that cardano becomes the biggest blockchain in the world For real world utility. No bots. No rubbish. No amms. None of these things um Whether you know whether mark wants to believe that or not or anybody wants to believe that this is real world use Right, so you need to use a blockchain that actually works a blockchain that can't be turned off a blockchain That is fully decentralized and a blockchain that's going to be suitable for connecting tens and millions of hundreds of millions of users So, yeah, um, you can see why we're not built on ethereum, right? Yeah, and then and then just to just to clarify everybody. It's not like like ethereum is the worst chain Or cardano is a worst change innovation has come from there. It's incredible Um, you see how much of the dollar's storage is is stored on on ethereum. It's incredible. It's huge It's not right. It's not it's not built right and it wasn't built right from the start And charles had a an advantage and the iohk team had an advantage because they saw what was built And they rebuilt it. It's very hard for for ethereum to go back through all those hundreds of thousands of lines of code and And restart from the beginning and they're trying to do that now and you see how many delays they've got and sure they'll get there I'm very sure. Um, but we can't wait for somebody to get there just like the the unconnected can't wait for For another company for five or six or seven years to be able to connect them. They're looking for it right now So cardano is a solution for right now. It's ever growing. We work with the iohk team every single day of the week They're their partners with world mobile. Um, they don't hold any tokens of world mobile There's no conflict of interest at all there and we're literally working so that we can connect the unconnected and when we can back the unbacked Yeah, and again, it's not it's not about there's one chain to rule them all I don't really care about that. I'm just trying to get to the end point and of course when the tide wrote when the tide rolls in Uh, the rising tide lifts all ships. So i'm okay with that So mickey you've answered a lot of questions and I appreciate your time. We're coming to 25 minutes almost One last question which is this? What's What's The absolute outcome for world mobile. Where do you see you guys in 10 years? What's the ultimate vision of what you want to do? Connects over a billion users, but connectivity is the first point, right? Connects a billion users and then watch what happens watch how people build an rsdk is watch how people start to bring Traditional finance and defying to the space But connectivity is really is really everything for us, right? Once the world is connected Then we truly are the global village that the internet has promised to be right now It's not a global village. It's a global village cut almost in half So every every one person on the planet can't speak to the other person on the planet statistically not right So from a human human point of view This is something very important for me to solve for my team to solve from a business opportunity This is one of the biggest business opportunities that's presented itself in history I can see it telecommunications connectivity And creating small and large businesses all in one shot mickey. Thank you so much. I appreciate your time Cheers. All right, let's jump back Do do do do okay. No i'm not uh, not muted. All right So that was the interview with mickey. I want to say again mickey walkins Thanks again for coming on the show and explaining exactly what world mobile is and just breaking it down to the Basic essentials of what people need to know and it's one of those things like when we talked in the beginning We talked about people who You know just They see a good project like I don't know if I want to get into it and whatever I can't tell you what to get into But I will say this usually when you when I've gotten into projects like way down the road and things have already passed me by because All the innovations already come and gone and I'm a light bloomer and I don't really get into it at the Right time. I think there's just sometimes you got to take a look at and go, okay I want to get into this Maybe I should do a lot more research and look heavily more into it and then just get the ball rolling So that's up to you and that's it. So again witt mickey. Thanks for coming on and really appreciate it And then as far as the follow-up I'm going to do a quick quick cuban update for this little this little back and forth exchange between Between mickey and mark and it went like this. This was just from I think it was yesterday or today the change in attitude Of course mark was you know kind of asking his questions just like he does in shark tank and Mickey came back and answered all his questions and he said hey, oh august 10th. What's the date day 12th 14th? Wow He says now we're making progress. Thank you. Half the price is a great goal, but not necessarily low enough to reach your goal No, we're a no brainer purchase which makes an interesting study a network cost marketing and whether Tokens blockchain add or hurt the proposition to consumers and mickey shouted back and said that's great And then what I want to make mention is this after the lengthy discussion how the network nodes work walk and sign off the twitter Debate with a friendly and open invitation for further discussion Boy, I wish there was more of that in the crypto space where someone just says hey, you know, we disagree But in all honesty if we Here's the information I can give you and there's more if you want it But here's where I'm coming from then someone raises a point and you raise a point back And then you either agree to look more into it or just agree to disagree and move on Ah, that's refreshing. Anyhow, that's it for today. So look, I know it was a little bit long But it's a great interview. I got to say again. Thanks mickey now Let's jump into a little q&a if you got time to stick around if not it's sunday get out of here Do your thing