 First on the agendas to approve the agenda. Is there any amendments to the agenda this evening? Okay all in favor There are no appointments this evening, so I guess we'll open it up to public comment don't everybody jump at the same time Oh Great That's great. Yeah, I was happy they got nice right up above your place under the guardrail it looked good there, so Yeah, that's good East Bethel take a tool out there. Oh You got to go go see go take a look at factory hill and the first part of Randolph Center road It looks good. They got the paving done. I just wrote to the state I don't know when they're line stripe it a couple of years probably by but they but it looks good out there on and then WB is gonna start out on Gilead and And do the one side take off the berm haul that stuff away under the guardrails remove tree Then he's gonna go up by Brink and get some of that rock out of there And hopefully we'll be able to use some of that rock to put to move it from up there at Brink down onto Watershed bridge because we're armoring that bank so he thinks some of that big rock He removes he can use down there to armor the bank, which would be nice Brink So that's what we got going on right now, so he'll go to Gilead then like it's watershed bridge. He'll armor that and Fire department's gonna wash off watershed bridge. They're gonna wash that down for me in the next couple of weeks and then We've got to get someone to come in and You know, I wanted we got to see what the top looks like underneath all the dirt So so we'll see how that goes, but so that's what you got a little bite. Yeah, go to East Bethel Doug Go to East Bethel. I'm very happy I don't know I'm not sure they were taking a pirate one. We were there last week. Yeah, the dam. I don't know if they're It's gone now, oh it is gone. I wasn't sure Yeah, it could could totally be I haven't been out they They they were supposed to do that project last year and then the only thing they're doing for us is they're gonna remove and salvage our dry hydrant or for us that we have a hydrant out there dry so he was Greg Russ from watershed He was gonna take that out so we could reuse it somewhere else that way and get it to the fire chief And he's got to find a new spot in East Bethel someone, but yeah, we were out there was somebody any other Public comment if move on to our first agenda item is the tax sale information so you have to you have to Per the statute you have to authorize me to contract with this will page and Fletcher as the town's attorney for the tax sale Second Board Page three You're talking about the updated scope of services Yeah, well, we are up to 1951 people. So yeah, there you go Small city So we're working on the start of the tax sale process now, it's a process, but we've started so you said that was December. Yeah, it looks well. It may be January now because I Greta we were emailing with Greta and she said because we do include utilities either in with the taxes or Alone so we'll tax you if you're just for your water sewer if your bills too high So she said because of that statutorily ends it adds another layer. So it may be January But the first letter notices are headed out the door From still page and Fletcher pretty soon to let everybody know who's you know, sometimes we send just the first letter That because we've been sending letters and people and maybe ignoring you send them And then once the first letters go out then teacher will make copies of those and send them to everybody's who has a mortgage They'll go to the mortgage company or the bank and that usually puts a little you know, they can work something out It's better. We're not a bank. It's better if people work it out with their mortgage company or you know Some other way it's gonna be cheaper for them in the long run. Do you know off the top of your head? How many went out? I Can't remember honestly, they're Not as many as when we did it a couple years ago, that's for sure I think teacher and I had we've kind of called the list But actually I don't know because we didn't add I didn't we did them separately her and I one day We did went through the toll tax list and then one day we went through the utilities, but I You know, my guess would be that I don't even 20 went out and But I can look at the better number for you And like I said, some of them we just send as a first letter because they're not enough money They're enough money to kind of send them up from the lawyer So they know we are serious, but maybe not necessarily to go all the way now with the delinquent sewer and water Utility bills is there still opportunities through the COVID money If they're there was and it was if they're tenants that was kind of the there was for a while And we received over $16,000 through the original first round Then there was another there's another set out there right now. There is some COVID money for Tenants so if you but that's not the case for us and But there was still I noticed a page there for some landlords, but we've been putting the information out We've mailed it out. We've sent it out. So whether or not someone actually qualifies right now. I don't know But we also we send them to other places capstone Anyone else who may have received money that they could qualify for in a different way But the V-Rap situation we did have a lady who didn't qualify for water But she got a reduced electricity rate So right now you can get reduced electric rates. You can get reduced Wi-Fi internet connection rates. So if you go to the Public service page, there's opportunities for multiple things for savings But what they're the packages right now? I know I have one lady who's Applied and she's waiting for the state to get to her application and she's an owner So there's definitely something out there. I just don't know what the current but there wasn't anything out there on tax relief It was just not water sewer. Yep, water sewer broadband Utilities, yeah, okay, so But we've certainly been putting that information out there and it's been nice someone also other towns have been doing it on Front porch form as well. So And they've been advertising it I thought I saw something from Kurt White and update about there was yeah program. Yep There is yeah, but I so far have one lady that I'm working with that she's waiting I keep looking my queue when her application isn't there So I'm just waiting and she just said I am I'll turn said look I haven't seen anything. She said yeah They said it was gonna take a while So but I did have another lady reach out and she did get a reduced electric rate So there's definitely still assistance out there People can call the office on the website Definitely places to find it I think you just made the motion yeah Yeah, you didn't you made the motion, but you didn't vote Dave made the motion Lindley seconded it, but they haven't voted it yet for the designation of Stitzel page and Fletcher. Oh good Okay, all in favor And the updated scope of services For a single audit So you signed one already, but at the time we weren't we didn't weren't sure if we needed a single Audit and we do need a single audit so mainly due to the DWS RF expenses and I have Spoke to Wayne LA I wrote to him and he's we're checking them with a state to see if some or all of that may be covered In our loan program because they had budgeted There was a budgeted for some expenses that we're not going to use so we may be able to get some or all that covered through that And no it doesn't matter that they called you a city council, and I don't think they I think there's pretty boilerplate language Yeah, but they were here this last week they were here Tuesday Wednesday Thursday They didn't finish the transfer station audit But so for every Rick was happy. He thought everything looked good and He's supposed to send me an email the list of like trial balance changes. We had some work on the depreciation schedule and That's a jewel, but I received one email today from one of the from faith I have to send her something then he's going to give a list for the transfer station of Deposits he wants Jen to pull that sample for him and then that'll be at the office He'll come down one day finish up the transfer station and go down there to set up a time to go see Jen and walk Yep, they pay for yep, and this will be the last audit the solvent and powers does for the transfer station They've been unhappy with the price Sullivan and power says fine find a different odd variable let you out of the contract So I had sent an email to Jerry telling him you better get your RFP out because you need to find new author See that saves Trace just for curiosity's sake. We all have science. Yeah, RTS using a different auditor does that change Any sort of work on your end or is it all the same I? Think it'll be I I think it'll be the same I mean they'll come in and you know they'll pull a sampling of AP and all that I can't imagine It's going to be any any different right? I mean it's just going to be another layer probably yes Because right now Sullivan and powers when they pull a sample they'll pull water sewer Transportation AP so this will be a second You know layer, but it'll be right. They'll tie out with Sullivan and powers members. I'm not too worried about it I don't honestly depends we get I don't know right. I mean and what they asked for exactly Yep, I do not know again. It sounds You know kind of elementary that we're you know talking about single audits and things like this But there was a time in this town where we were way behind And the single on it's because if you spend over you know $750,000 then you have to do a single and we had so our single is made up of FEMA expenses But the DWSRF is what's pushing us over the top. So um Rick and I had worked on that So we were we thought we would need one last year and then we didn't end up needing a because some of the information We received from the state was incorrect about how much of our DWSRF was federal money So once we got an update from them, then we were able to drop what we you know You only have to do the federal portions. So Leave this from having one, but he's like not this year I've actually never been through a single audit. So We'll see what I'm not sure what what the extra layer is, but I'm sure nothing fun Anything to do with audit? Yeah Anything further on that? All right. We have the FY 22 municipal resolution for bylaw modernization So we had given you this resolution in your packet. I gotta get Rick Benson We'll sign it at our October planning commission meeting. I actually have a meeting at 9 a.m. Tomorrow with Tori and Another town one two of us couldn't I had the audits with two towns couldn't do the last time they had a meeting but I gave you the deadline the information on the modernization grant that the Two rivers had put together which was pretty much all of our understanding about it These are a lot of the changes that we had talked about the planning commission So we obviously picked up some low hanging fruit for our bylaw updates Just to make it more consistent for the DRB and Kelly and I to enforce zoning. So this is nice We're looking forward to this and the planning commission started at our meeting looking at Talking about Increasing some density in areas Maybe how we were going to do that where we gonna change the zoning from four acre to two acre, you know How we're gonna do it in what areas so we did receive maps from two rivers Sarah was kind of to make us copies and we got Spalding press to laminate them so that we can write on him and Rick came in and he's Going doing great things. He's got the aerial photos and the topography So he's gonna try to like look through them and try to outline for us Where can you where you're not in the river corridor where you're not in the flood zone where it's not already in a conservation easement Exactly and and so he talked about that so I think he's gonna sign on to the meeting tomorrow morning as well Which will be nice. So that's just 10% match Yeah, yep. Yep, so and it was nice, too. They were doing a consortium of towns, which was great They were trying to you know, we're all looking doing similar things. So that'll be nice But it's good, you know, I had agreed Promise them that we would we do the agenda. We'd obviously take our minutes and I think last time You know two rivers ended up really having to do a lot More than they maybe had bargained for so But anyway, so it'll be interesting to go through the process So this is your resolution and it looks like there's just a motion for Chris to sign Okay, sure for the planning commission So we'll just have to budget that $6,000 in this coming. Yep budget Or is it something you have to find in the current budget right? Well, we may have to find some of it now some of it later And I think we have I want to say there's 15 or $2,000 in there for Already there's something but yeah, but we'll have to know how they well, it's You know depends on yeah, we'd rather come up with a 10% than the whole hundred percent So we'll figure out what we need to do But it depends when they start once the grants get approved We may have to come up with some money now and some in our next budget But we'll see I'll know better tomorrow after I meet with Tori, okay, great. So we just need a motion for that the legislative body recommends Applying for the grants will you be the signer? So it's just a motion for might for the chair to sign. Yep on behalf Second pale in favor town manager report Okay, so the states emergency manager we talked about ICS 402 and I talked to rich and he currently Doesn't have any classes scheduled, but he said you know either him or somebody for the training could do it But what he said it's a four-hour in-person or virtual session So I don't know how you guys want to do that. I don't I'm assuming You do not want to do it, you know, obviously you don't want to do it at six o'clock at night I don't know if you want to do it a Saturday if you want to do it someday at noon I'm not really sure how you guys want to do this but it's if But it's a four-hour Six a does this have to be conducted as the entire board or can we do it individually or well I don't think small currently doesn't have any schedule. So no we'd be scheduling it just for us Yeah, and we don't have to do it tomorrow either. It's just does does Dave alter getting have folks that need The training as well like are there sort of a bigger pool of people that yeah Not four oh two four or two is pretty much for select boards. Yeah, and I would take it But that's pretty much it's for select boards and governing bodies town managers. So it's not yeah They'd be looking at ICS 200 300 400, but not this one So um, but it's not you know, I'm not really sure what you guys want to do if you want to wait Maybe you want to do it this winter When things slow down for people Yeah, I mean I'd be fine like Dave's I mean, maybe not 6 a.m. But I'd be fine with the weekend day in the morning Yeah, do an 8 a.m. Start. Yeah beat up by noon Yeah, I would agree winter. So at this point is it something that we should do before the March No, no frame or after the March time frame. I mean it's just something. There's Yeah, two new board members than right, you know It's true. It's just something that you should do as as a board. It's handy train. Sometimes they offer it like oh They haven't yet. Maybe we'll see one coming out. So by email rich back and say hey We're interested if sometimes if they offer it at a regional planning So one or two of you could go at a time, but since he doesn't have any scheduled right now So what I could do is send him an email and say hey, you know what we've got some interest here Are you planning on scheduling it over the winter? And if he is and you know in any areas Randolph wherever and then we could put it out and people could go You know and take it I've taken classes at you know out of some county regional planning or at the high school So sometimes they're just staging it but So we could just I could send him an email and see if he's going to be scheduling it because you can either He'll do one just special for you or you'll You can try to pick it up elsewhere. So let me see if there's other options out there There is there's an ICS 100 and you can do that on your own online and you would print out prints out a certificate For you. It's just basic incident command how it works what it means and you can certainly take that on your own any time I can try to yeah, I'll have to Look for one. Yeah, but I can send that to all the slide board, but I think some of you've taken it you've taken it Lendly who took it with you Okay, it was mostly okay. Yeah, that's you community members. I think I was the only select board Okay, I did the Red Cross one for all right, so I can send out the ICS 100 blank And at least to the slide board that would at least give you all you can take that on your own and that's probably Try to remember it's been a few years since I took it. I think it only took me like an Two hours it wasn't very long So I see us one or so I'll send that link out And then I'll send a note to Rich and ask him if he's going to be scheduling any in this area In the next few months. I know after Thanksgiving is when work dies down for myself and Dave needs a couple more months Okay, yeah usually after Alright, well, let's see what he's got and we'll send out the ICS Thanksgiving in the end of March is usually Okay, he's here for me All right, so maybe January something in January. Yeah, yeah So I had emailed a Garrett Baxter one of the attorneys at VLCT regarding updated cannabis regulations, so So he was great. So as 25 had amended the original act and he said So cannabis operations will not be allowed in Bethel until the best residents vote Yes on Australian ballot because the original act had said if we didn't vote by 2023 it would be automatically you're opting in So they removed that so now There's no rush to vote and no one can open a business until you vote and yes, it has to be Australian ballot So and then if you do vote it in But at a later time voted out and anybody that has opened the suspensory becomes grandfather. Yes, exactly I guess the whole thing is we haven't had anybody to date. I have not had a request interested in doing anything locally, right? I guess at this point is it did we just you could just wait you have to worry about doing it unless it's petitioned and then That's what you could wait for but then it becomes a two-year Process though. You have to put it on Right if somebody right if someone well unless somebody puts a petition for this coming meeting here in March Right, then they'd get on this meeting in March and you voted at this meeting in March But if nobody petitions it then yeah, and basically you don't ever have to vote it until someone petitions it you could just say When somebody's interested they'll do something about it. So that definitely But and it has to be Australian ballot. So Um Yep, or have a special meeting they have a special meeting So you'd have to they'd have to petition it They or they'd have to come to the select board and explain and then the select board could say at that point That they don't have to pass the petition the select board could choose to warn a separate Vote just like you would a bond vote that wasn't at at town meeting You just have to do a special meeting so you would pay to have the ballot, you know A ballot printed you do you know all that sort of stuff you'd warn It would just be an election at a different time So they wouldn't necessarily have to wait a year And someone could come and the select board could say Petition it, you know, you have to do a petition and then you know it could take longer. So Really depends I would assume it depends on what the person's plan is and how you felt about it and You know all that sort of information But it's just easier to do it that town meeting because you can just add the line item rather special cost for printing and you know Yeah, because if you were gonna the cost So what would cost you if you did it separately we'd photocopy the ballots we'd photocopy that, you know, the cost would be advertising basically advertising the boat and Because you have to put in the paper Staffing the election. That's what I know on the western side of the state the route seven quarter There's a lot of different Things going on With the industry on that side of the state I don't seem too much in around this area As Randolph passed it But is there anything in random But Randolph did pass it and a couple other towns locally, but remember who else was on the list. Maybe it was Barry but So it does allow you options even if you don't put it on this town meeting morning Someone does not have to wait a year. They would have to wait for you guys to do a special election. However, I Know No, you do whatever you do whatever you guys want as a majority of the board So you can decide that when we start preparing for the morning Or I mean you can certainly talk about it tonight, and I don't know what you want to do what your feeling is But we can add it to the morning Well, maybe one of the board meetings in November Is you're gonna be specifically on what we're gonna put on the warning. Yeah, well, yeah, and we could advertise it as You know what we are putting on the warning and we'll give others the opportunity They do want that on the warning to come to the select board and ask us at that point I think it'd be interesting to put it out in a way where people have some advanced notice that it's a Discussion that would be happening here because it sort of begs the question just because we haven't heard Does it mean no one's thinking about it or are there people thinking about it? We just haven't understood the nuance of the law yet You know but are interested in a retail business of some sort somewhere in Bethel would want to pursue it. They just haven't Had that discussion. Is it the end of? December end of January that we have to have the warning Just end of December. We'll sign everything. Yeah, because you have to get there's a I can't picture the date on the calendar right now You have to go to print all that stuff. Yeah, it's nice to have the whole thing put to bed by the end of December So if we put it on the agenda for November that we're going to be discussing it That's what you want to do. Okay put on agenda for Discussing cannabis to put on the morning Maybe you want to have those on separate nights You want to have two two of them No, I think that's a good idea. We'll do it that way either that last one in October beginning in November So October post on from storm date of So would you be able to have a sample? Of what our warning would look like at that point and then we could just say that these are Whatever if there's one or two or three others that the board is thinking about doing then it allows Well, everybody the opportunity to speak for it or against it Yeah, I mean I will have set numbers in for the budget But I can I mean the rest of it will pretty much look the same as it did well I think it you know just like we talked, you know, you know electing a moderator and a treasurer in a you know, yeah town clerk and the the board seats and I mean we could just put the The budget doesn't necessarily have to have the dollar figure. Yeah, yeah, right obviously the first time folks know about two potential openings on the board Yeah, so so I'll kind of Okay, so October post a farm porch data slept board meeting in late October early November to discuss Australian ballot votes on On Like for members or we public officials or whatever Public officials and budget Yeah, so we'll do a sample Warning Okay, and that's pretty much how about standard. So yeah, it'll just look a little different because So how do you want to do that because I guess we could do a couple sample warnings because if you one sample warning will be just voting One sample ballot warning would be this is how we've always done it one sample ballot would be This is what it's gonna look like if you vote Australian ballot for just your officers and one sample warning of this is what it's gonna look like if you vote all Your budget items. I was I was just thinking that we just do the regular warning always then but then have Some information on maybe a separate sheet of here or here are some other items that are being That's true because you wouldn't be subjected to be on it as well because you wouldn't vote this year No, it would be whether or not to go the future. Okay, so if you just did up like the normal warning and then maybe we had a Do you have to have two questions separate sheet of these are these are other items that the board is considering Yes, and and we could late, you know, I don't know maybe there's more than just two of them that we can put right now There's two cannabis and Australian ballot, so okay. All right. Yeah, that's right. I'm just saying I'm just saying for instance Let's say we decided to put the Communication equipment. Oh, right and we did that as a you know, here's another one that we're considering So it allows people to weigh into it. Okay. Yeah, all right Well, maybe I'll try to kick that out for October and then we can see what it looks like and then do it I'll do a sample in October. That's right because I forgot we wouldn't vote this year So right so you're saying you'd have a sample for us to see in October But we'd have the meeting that's more big bigger public discussion in November. Yeah, that way we can see if there's more missing Yeah, that's fine. I can do I'm not sure how much detail Well, it's just a sample warning. It's pretty straightforward. I'm gonna have the same one we did last year We just add two more questions to it Basically one is are you gonna go Australian ballot and cannabis and then if you decide about your equipment or whatever So you might have two or three extras on there, but that's fine We can do that The other thing was I was not you know that we I just found out today that they will be Painting tomorrow for Main Street doing Crosswalks and parking and stuff Tatro first. They couldn't get the paint. They're not alone That was then all of a sudden the contractor was like I have an opening tomorrow So my perfect it'll be all done right before forward fast. So that'll be great. So they're coming in tomorrow I just signed off on the paperwork tonight. So phase two of our water project, which is, you know, Graham Highland etc. That's off to the state for environmental review last time we've got there took five months six months So hopefully not so long this time, but I signed off on that tonight So the other thing that We talked about was oh Bethel for all I gave you I think I forwarded you all the email plus I gave you the hard copy so there's ways if you can't attend those meetings What I like about what Nicole and and Rebecca are doing is they these these quick polls So even if you can't attend the meeting you can still get your opinion out there. So I think that's really nice I like the way that she's doing that We need to formulate a response to her request We had talked about I had told her she could you know basically continue to pass Stuff on I'd make sure it went into your packet and then yes, I think she asked you a specific question about Right and that's right, and I think she was looking for you guys to reply directly, but I mean individually At least that was the way I read it you read it differently for the second part of it Think about how you want to engage in and support this project Let me know which of the options below or others you'd like to pursue They would have somebody come to our meetings and they would just work through you Right, and I had told her that I thought it would be nice that yes We do Updates in the select word packets and I told I thought it would be nice if you guys had someone at once a month Here at a select board meeting to update you to answer any of your questions directly I mean that's normally the best way Things work is to have someone represent them to come to the board and talk about Yeah, the other they have going on what they need help with Yeah, the other thing is she wanted to know if one of you would rotate to attend their meetings and I already attend this I'm on the steering committee, so I attend the steering committee meetings and I told her I thought During our meeting that it'd be easier for you guys for obviously one of them to come to you once a month to update you via Packet and then if you signed up via email, you could also get regular updates I don't know if one of you Depends on when they have the meetings and everything to I don't think they have a schedule made up yet We don't know not the steering committee meetings might work out that somebody could go just you know Yeah, and and right now Even yeah, she's either saying each meeting or a major community event because right now the only thing I have agreed to is the steering committee. I because they have these other pop-out or breakout committees I said I just I can't I don't have between the select board meetings planning Commission and not on time for that So I think that's what I liked about the emails and you guys signing up as you could say Oh, I can volunteer for that one meeting and they're trying to come up with some options When you just sometimes volunteer really at a one event Which is really nice instead of you being you know tied up to go every Tuesday for the next six months You've got to do something but so what do you think is that what you guys want to see is someone coming here once a month And regular updates to your packet And then we'll see how the select board can just make sure that we're on the email chain. Yep Okay And you would be willing to attend the steering committee meeting minute meetings on a regular basis or the other Or one of the breakout committees Okay Separate email with that link for the sign-up. Okay. I think I'm already on their list I'm just realizing I don't think I saw it as an email. Okay. There's a click here to sign up There's a thing that says click here to sign up. Yeah, I thought that you got the email as well So I will resend our all go back. I thought I'd send it. Maybe I printed it out and didn't send it to you So I will I'll send it to you So I'll send out, okay, so Send And I just I just look back to my email I'm not finding it. Okay, cuz I didn't yeah, we'll send it out. And I don't know if she sent it or I forwarded it but I'll Send out Nicole sign up email and then That way you guys can sign up directly for what you want Because they had a neat little, you know set up there. I thought it was good So I guess that's it for town managers report Chris I have something else for the other communications If you want me to just do that now Sure. All right, so the other one is the phase one water project kind of a list of pros and cons that Tim and I sat down and put together and So I wasn't sure if anybody had any questions on this we thought it would be had talked to Chris Jarvis and You know tried to go back and look at the project as a whole and see what did we gain what? You know what wasn't perfect wouldn't go as well I mean I put you know traffic delays their standard for construction, but that was Obviously I think I wasn't too too bad dust was an issue in 2020 2021, but it was super dried They go I mean we tried we did talk to them about watering and chloride and that certainly was an issue but kind of The next Section that we did is something that we talked to Aldrich Nellie about and said, you know, we have to have full-aimed pay for Graham for Highland for Sandhill so the next phase, you know So trees when do we get a final? So we've given you guys something in your packet I can give you the updated or the numbers are the numbers I think I gave to you a while ago, but and they haven't really changed much right now What we have done is complained heavily to the state and said, you know, frankly, we think you host us There's five hundred thousand dollars and led that we didn't get subsidy that we didn't get that we want We know you got inundated with COVID money It's also not our fault that that environmental engineering took months So we didn't get the full 25% subsidy that we think we were entitled to so we have done that all Nellie at a Wayne has gone to the new guy Of course a bunch of people have left now in the water and a new gentleman came in and took over Wayne Already has met with a guy and said and the gentleman said, yeah, you're not alone There's other towns out there that feel that way So we're hoping that as this COVID money comes in that the state that they may end up doing Something more here Promise to us Yeah, you said you can have this money. Yeah, and it's allocated But now we got cold money. Yeah, well the two people that came to the meeting are no longer with the state and in the end they All basically it looks like a lot of the money had that was set aside had gone to you know, Bennington And they had a huge lead problem we'll say that Bennington had a had a really big problem and but they So, you know how it was it wasn't it was implied and then that we would get it and then of course when it all sugared out They were like, oh no, and we didn't even realize because we were talking even the lady who was Oversing our project for the state every meeting we talked about this We traced the bridge then we're all like what what, you know, when did somebody know this and we didn't So we're still fighting for it But we know what the bottom line looks like now And Hopefully we're gonna get more money. I mean we they'd given us an additional 66,000 that out of You know that was leftover that wasn't allocated in prior year, but they know we still want more money So we have a year For the warranty period and before, you know, our loan payments are due So we're just hoping I can tell you certainly where we can give you the information where we stand right now I'm still hoping that in a year within the next year that changes and that we end up seeing more subsidy so So that's where we stand now, but I can make a note Paul to put update in the next packet put the financials Not yet and you can see we put that down here on maybe I didn't Well, no, I don't yet we're kind of well, you know what happened Dave It's exactly what we said was gonna happen So you see some savings and then all of a sudden because we fixed a lot of the lines and we increased pressure And you have a high pressure system We've got leaks on other streets now because we repaired this but more pressures. So we've blown out in a couple areas already So we are hoping to respond track it over the next few months to a year and see you know where we came out We saw immediate savings and then you know in in Gallish pumping And then you see it creep up and you find another leak and then we'd sprung another leak over on North Main Street it's coming out on somebody's lawn and And we knew that was gonna happen because you have such pressure, but so we are tracking it and So and we'll have better numbers once we've done it for a little while so there's still a small punch list left Obviously line striping was part of that and a Few other things so they're slowly you know picking their way off the list Yeah, I mean, you know and it should you know, I mean you did a huge investment in the infrastructure Yes, there was traffic delays. Yes, there was stuck out for me was a student We talked about it before they even started that why the hell can we get this stormwater collection system done When the hole is open Yeah, it makes too much sense and we ended up well we were lucky because you guys had agreed to budget $15,000 for us to engineer one and then Basically, we just put it on the fly and spent that 15,000 for engineering and did it there So you mean you guys made some smart choices when you're budgeting and Yeah, and of course the pros are gonna outweigh the cost. Yes, there was inconvenience. Yes We had to do scheduled, you know, shut offs. Yes, you know, they hit a couple things broke a sewer line broke a lot I'll pretty standard, you know, I mean, it's a construction project so good news is we're off from Main Street and And these type of projects end up being the more invasive projects that you're gonna have as a town because Because of all the you know, what's in the road and what the unknowns are and right, you know Almost every water line sewer line is under a sidewalk or somewhere So you have to dig up, you know, lots of stuff to get to it's not like yeah, whatever paving or graveling or something It's simple. Yeah, you know, the next streets Graham Street, that'll be you know, it's gonna inconvenience those residents Highland Little sandhill will be nice, but but you know, it also gives people big out It's not you're not digging up me so over the last couple years before the project I mean, we had two significant You know, we had the one out front of Mascoma, that was a pretty big leak We had the one that kept rear its head over here. Yeah Genesis in around that. Yeah, and then we have the other one by Richardson store Yeah, I mean one in front of the town office, but I think the one in Mascoma. That was a pretty large So I mean I get you know, you can't quantify the savings at this point, but I got I think it's pretty significant Yeah, I mean I mentioned man to power to I mean how many times do you see him on a Sunday morning? Fixing, you know a leak in front of somebody's house. Yeah, that's also hard to because as much as you know It's a big was big price tags, you know a big project and and So yeah, you see some immediate savings and then the system still is old the system stills and disrepair So because we fixed up here, we've gained some but then you know, we knew we were gonna blow it We knew we were leaking at the pool This year and we're trying that was where we got kind of we're just letting it go and it drained to a certain point So now we knew we lost at the pool quite a significant amount of water And now like I said, we know it's blown out on somebody's lawn in North Maine and you know, the other ones We haven't seen yet. So but yeah, you could definitely see there will be another leak detection thing going on There was I don't know if there will they put out for it I don't know what year it was Tim and I were talking about it because I know he and Aaron and Richard were out last week doing some more leak detect or line locating for the next phase so I don't know when the leak detection program comes around. I'm not sure if it's annually or every It's every other year. Yeah, because I think we did it We did it right before the product yeah, and and the thing is to ease and even now we did it In those it we wouldn't do those areas anyways because that's our next phase But it might be good. Yeah, you know to get the arteries off of it Because then that's the way we'll do phase two and then we'll do phase three Well, we also you know, we had the we had the hydrants that were Not working that are operational now. Yeah on this line. There was two of them Yeah, and the place and then we did two more on River Street and So it's a you know, it's an ongoing process, but yeah, I mean, they're definitely more pros than cons for sure The most common was and traffic delay dust was a huge prop We got a ton of phone calls about dust the first first phase I'm not so bad this year Well, like last year when they were doing the work I mean it was such a dry summer, you know, where this year was complete opposite We're probably if you did a lion's share of it this year, you probably wouldn't have the dust complaints rain almost every day Yeah, it was it was brutal the first year and and it was tough You know, we were just telling people go dig a hole in your front yard, you know, it's dusty I don't you know and if you went down when they were digging it was it was deep and it was dusty all the way You know, that's why we were in a drought, but so anyway, so that's the Updated list. I had talked to us about that. So I appreciate all the Excess dirt and dust cleanup that happened in the last few weeks Well, I think that a major work Yes, Stevie has done a nice job. He went out and it was great to get that last week He was great and I know Brad Had noted when I reached out to just send out an email as a whole to about doing, you know Them organizing and doing the cleanup but townwide he said he had a gas powered Pressure washer that he would let people use but I don't know if he got any takers on that I don't know but he did offer So if business owners or building owners not as a business owner So but building owners if they wanted to Anywhere along kind of sound like he was willing to let people use it which was just nice So but like I said, I don't know if he had any takers or not Sorry, so we'll let Nicole know about that Then the other thing was we did receive our Portion of our county money. So so far we have received 291,602 dollars and 34 cents So we received our state a share of 102,000 and our county share of 189,000 we'll get our next Shot of that next year So that would be on our next agenda that we'll talk about how we're gonna spend the American rescue plan money We're gonna sit down Tim and I and he's getting some pricing right now on sewer pumps He has talked to Aldrich and Elliot about what we should switch to about You know Best manufacturers for those I think they gave him a couple of options Seeing what else we need to do. I know we need to do some work on at least one of the tanks One of the pump houses. It would be nice to take this money and use it for infrastructure So we don't have to borrow so because the water and sewer system or a closed system You know, we can't really currently add any users it would be nice if we could use the American rescue plan money to pay for 30 plus year improvements that won't get tagged into into a loan because if we don't use this money We will be buying sewer pumps. We'll be buying a new generator. We'll be Paying to fix the one of the reservoirs will be paying to update one of the Well houses because the water we just had our sanitary survey, so we haven't received the results yet Which should be hopefully from war and peace down to just Peace so it's because of the 2.8 million dollar project that took some stuff on but it also added some stuff because the age of the system So we're getting pricing now and I talked to Tim said look we need to sit down do a spreadsheet go to the select board and say look Here's the money This is our recommendation on What we spent it and in order of triaging what's gonna go first and I know the sewer pumps alone You're looking at I would say 70,000 Right there, and I think another generator is 30 years I'm down at the pump station not the pumps that are in the not though not the ones that right. Yes, not though Sorry, I should have yes The ones down at the pump station itself not the ones out here because you're right the one over by marshmallow was replaced And but those down there so and all to Janelia has been involved in just saying look at some of the things that we need to Look at replacing so it makes sense to We've always talked about putting the money in infrastructure water sewer makes sense The one we're looking at the one by Yes Irene we got a new one down Yeah, so it's not that We have those on a regular scheduled maintenance plan. Yes. Yep with Yankee generator. Yep They do them the same time they do the school so we pay for Yankee generator to come to the school So we do so one time Yeah, no regular they come and Come and do a regular We're on the same schedule Out the school and I know because I called that bill so um, so that's what we're looking at So we'll come we get some sort of cheat sheet at some point of what we can and cannot use that money for Yes parameters of exactly there may be some other scopes of work throughout the town that we can take advantage of some of that money So right now I have like a 53. They gave you this 53 page document just on the reporting of the money I'm like this and then there's another 58 pages from the National League of cities and towns they put out that's just 58 pages of frequently asked questions Then the federal IRS finally put out their final rule So I have a lot of pages to read before two weeks to come up with and I basically took out all the other stuff We're not doing COVID clinics. We're not doing, you know, some of this stuff I really am just focusing on strictly on infrastructure and they pretty much have stuck with the original which is Sewer water and broadband and we're not touching broadband because the governor is Doing, you know a bunch of initiatives there. You've already done easy fiber And so we're really focusing on, you know sewer waters or right now that money was no culvert No, you know, you're well, you know, you're out and then we'll probably have to do a single on it for whatever Because that's gonna be over 500. Well, no because well, we won't spend in the same year So no because it's how much you spend in a year and since we're getting the money in two shares We won't and and as you know, they haven't passed the transportation bill because you saw representative welch. So They're supposed to vote on this week, I guess Yeah, so So anyway, so that's where we land with us So I have to do some reading and kind of narrow it down to and oh and paul sent me a nice thing that Sarah rate had done right from two rivers So I just got to sort through all that and then come to you with a spreadsheet that says, okay, this is triage What we think what our recommendation is for this year and our recommendation next year So that'll be coming That's the other thing was once you get to other communications as gene has your vermont climate counselors information I got a comment on the commission conservation commission meetings. Okay. I don't believe I went to ready Planting grant for the b o r c Yeah, I was I was there. Yep. You've got Dave in her Oh, okay Places, I was out there. Oh, David. Oh, okay instead of um, oh, I'm gonna give her a call Just send her an email Oh, yeah Are you going to do that or do you want me to? Oh, you're okay. Okay It's right you were away Yeah, I would I would like to have a comment make a comment or two about vermont climate counselors peace I signed that as an individual leader from Bethel That letter which is Going to the vermont climate council The vermont climate council is what was established by the vermont state legislature In response with its Very controversial Climate plan They are currently receiving comment As they develop the The plan that they will implement over the next few years And so I think it is very appropriate that we Think about how whether if We want to provide comment From the perspective of the town To that council as they develop the plan that will I can't remember what what reduced the carbon Input by 80 percent over the next You know decade or two It's a very significant State legislation and now is the time to have some input And so I'm suggesting that if That you can as an individual you could sign on to that letter or We might want to ask the energy committee of the conservation commission Either or both to take a look at Whether or not We there might be a response from the town of Bethel That we might want to provide in terms of input They're open in the input Is open until October 15th I just think it's an opportunity for us to have a say That I think could be really Important long term So I just wanted to say that Whether you agree with that particular letter or not is not my point. My point is They're inviting comment now is they're putting the thing together Now is the time to to say And it's going to be put together because it's it's state law So what's the Bullet point one, what's what's that? It's Or I can't read it's a just transition principles Yeah That those principles are part of the plant. There's a subgroup of the climate council Putting together just climate principles Those principles Are the the focus is to make sure that those are administered with concern for the poor those most Least likely to be able to afford You know renovations or electric vehicles or or whatever That we an example Is that And it's not related to this particular plan directly But an example is that a flood control and hydroelectric dams Have traditionally been built upon native american reservations Where they have taken cities or towns And completely destroyed them In order to produce electricity or to control floods the Seneca dam in Western new york east western new york that fed went into pennsylvania and the monongahila River was a flood control dam for pittsburgh And the ohia river The tennessee valley authority dam was another one. There's a garrison dam in north dakota that was Hydro That took out significant portions of a major indian reservation That's where those Many of those dams have been Targeted And so the concern is that we not engage in In our efforts to Convert or to get off of carbon-based fuel That we don't disadvantage those who are already Disadvantaged That's what the just transition principles are Or what they're So it almost sounds like because you were earlier you were mentioning Kind of putting this out to the conservation commission and the energy committee, but also including equity and inclusion. We could include equity so so might Yeah, I'm just saying we might want to ask Those three committees if they want to provide us with some feet black Or or if they want or we might want to ask them to provide to respond to town committees But we I think it would be good an opportunity for us to Have our say now you could also have the You could ask them to the energy committee conservation commission equity inclusion wasn't formed but At the time but some of the members or the what people that became members were participating You could ask them to respond, you know based on the approved town plan too because a lot of that You know energy committee and conservation did a great amount of work um, you know the town plan so We could do a couple things which is genus suggesting which is one We could reach out to equity inclusion conservation Energy and make them aware of this timeline and ask them to put in comments directly Or you could ask them because i'm trying to think when's your next select board meeting, do you know chris? October what is the next select board meeting? um I'm trying to think did you say the 15th that was due the 15th is the design Indigenous people's day 11th The 11th is an excellent meeting. Yeah, so what would so we could Certainly send them an email and let them know that they're accepting it and they could submit as a committee Or do you want them to come to you as a tout? I'm not sure what you want to do How you would like to do that Reading this gene. I see no place that I can go to to respond to anybody There's no link right or no Phone number no email nothing. I understand I had a cover letter that I had sent out with that to some Folk in town I can send that to you Because I have some I have some serious questions about some of the things they want to do Is there it it all is very wonderful, but What when you do that you're going to do this this and this And those are carbon Rich things that you're going to do to the earth when you're saving $10 you're going to spend up on So I got questions. Well, I understand. Yes, there's I am recognizing a the controversy. I'm recognizing the various viewpoints But um Anyway, I just yeah, I didn't know I would like to know whom I could send my questions to to say, okay, you want to do this, but what about So you want to submit your own issues to the client? I mean, I don't do it, but I have a You can do it as you can always do it as an individual As a resident of Bethel and you absolutely have that same right I think if you the at the top of the page it says 350 Vermont Um, I think you can go to their website and that would probably link to which is 350vt.org Or you could write out that's this organization that drafted this letter. You could write your own personal letter You can write your own personal letter and just go down the street Give me a minute. I think the thing that always frustrates me. You know the climate change Agendas in Vermont since I was a little kid is like they're so quick to say bye by the year whatever We're going to be at so many percent and then we get there and we're not even close, you know I mean, it's like it's like there's not enough thought put into it Like is it really realistically a goal to get to there like I know we want to but like I think the thing I always look at is I think we all want to Make things better But is it really a goal attainable goal to get to that level by that date because we got to think The load on the system I mean the system is old, you know Deload on the system the cost to like Well, one of one of the one of the realities of this particular piece of legislation is That if we do not reach the goals It is The state will be liable and open to suit For failing to meet the goals and that doesn't guarantee we're going to meet them I'm simply saying again, that's what the the Vermont climate council is Charged with putting together Is a plan to meet those goals within that frame time Where the state will be liable For failure Now and so now is the time to to comment to the state Uh around uh what what the concerns are I think what would be neat for our town would be to kind of see how Because I know a lot of times, you know A lot of these are kind of boilerplate, you know pieces in the pie, right? But how does that affect like our little town of Bethel like Like farming or you know, like obviously we don't have like mass transportation in our town so like So so that piece of it well, but we do us but but simple things like Farming pieces obviously cost on individuals homes to you know retrofit upgrade, you know Those those things are massive massive things for you know for our town, but stagecoach is part of the mass Transportation piece I mean and He is transitioning to electric vehicles including in the town Question and this is just because I don't know The source of electricity for Bethel's Electricity that's hydro or isn't it or is it a solar green back or is solar? Yeah, but you're talking about the main distribution system doesn't come from there. Oh, I don't know Hydro-co-back About the solar When in our electric When we're the town the city in the village the village is on a got an electrical Program, I like the GMP Yeah, we get our or is it just gmp. It's just gmp I mean we do do two things we do green mountain power and then we do do We are participating in a net metering a solar net metering thing from green maple or that doesn't mean that we use any of their power Right. No, no, no, we have we're bought in but that power are you going that power? Credits whatever Yeah, we just allocate a percentage of it to them. So that's where we get our bills each month We get to we get one from green mountain power and one from them So well, that's you know, that's an important piece for people to understand There are some real questions about whether hydro-co-back is A carbon new it's not a carbon neutral place. So how we count that in the total Is part of the issue? I think the other thing that I haven't heard him. I talk about is the um like right in this town the Water generation of electricity there is a What's that credit that we all was looking at? The state's looking to get a certain amount of credits Sir carbon credit the carbon credits or you know where those credits went those credits are sold to kinetic Yeah, they're always And there is a boatload of solar projects and Water projects they go to the city exactly the same thing. So if you want to do your climate change then you need to go back to the beginning Here's my big my big piss me off Excuse me is Okay, if we're making it in Vermont, let's get credit making it in Vermont. Yep. Absolutely. But we're not There's no legislation. No nothing that says that People can't just take their money and run And so one of the So one of the one of the comments on this letter is to make sure that We are Count the second bullet point Is to make sure that all of the greenhouse gas emissions are accurately Measured and included including that that comes from hydro quavec Because it's hydro There is significant methane produced Every time the water level goes down in those They catch basins for hydro quavec and they are hydro quavec tends to be more flat Then Then gorges Uh Which means the water level goes up and it goes down which means there's significant decay every time Every year as the The record the water goes through and hydro quavec is one of those places noted for Building on indigenous people's lands So there are questions if we're going to count if we if we include hydro quavec as part of our Our Impact on the carbon Then those carbon credits Really don't count And even though we're selling the someplace else We're using We're using it's I understand that part of what i'm talking about is the is the part that we tout as being great Which is the solar power And the little water the little generating stations. They are the greatest things we've never had well No, they're not Because the value of those systems for romant is those carbon credits or that's part of it and We're not getting it Well, it's going away right and we're not doing anything And there's nothing you and I are going to do it's the people up there that Up there or my failure or whatever they've got to start saying no, you can't you can't do that That's why we must comment So just to go back to What trees was starting on before of our next meeting is the 11th and it feels like a very tight turnaround to Invite those groups have that discussion and try to get comments in by the 15th and i'm curious Just to make sure we are doing things about board if Let's say we Maybe not as a select board but as individuals or just as interested parties in the town invited representation from different groups like the conservation commission Energy and select board members show up. Do we need to warn that as a meeting like if a meeting was done prior to the 11th if Would we need to warn that as An official meeting It wouldn't hurt because I mean well, yeah, well, plus it's official committee or well if it's going to be It's going to be multiple committees. She's saying it would be equity inclusion It wouldn't hurt to why not I mean it's only a couple days in advance and I don't think it would hurt to warn it just to cover all your bases Right Because you could have a majority of any one of those committees come right Or you'd have them respond directly to the climate control initiatives, but you ask them to Instead of everybody coming up with their own ideas You could ask the equity inclusion conservation and energy to send Comment based on the current town plan then you have control over what's You know instead of one great job or something that you guys have not backed where you have supported the town plan Well, and so part of my thought was like Here's just a hypothetical. Let's say We let those groups know about this Kind of like Jean did with this letter of like putting it out there saying You know all interested parties convene on October 4th, which is the Monday before our select board meeting put together the comments or the Liking on the word I want but you know Yeah The sort of list that they'd like to see bring that to our meeting on the 11th And so that's where I want to make sure like if a group did that out like they were not treading some line and right Yeah, I mean I would I would try to make sure you would warned it My only concern would be that if you did it on the 4th, who's going to take the time to make sure that those Are is that already goals that you've approved that are in the town plan? And if they're not goals that you've approved in the town plan already then Well, does she change riders midstream here change towards that? And I don't know if you would how we have to implement the town plan through zoning But this comments wouldn't have to be am I stretching that or just well that I guess that was my next you see what I'm saying how much does it have to does commentary to this party which is Informing the legislature have to actually match our town plan and is more a commentary because that's to me What it seems it's not the town plan is very much the like we will operate by these right Things we've set forth whereas this is more the like we like the legislature to see the bigger picture Acknowledge and address much bigger than that. Yeah, so does it have to follow? I mean the town plans a great sort of starting place where yeah, I don't know. I mean I guess the I It's hard to say I guess here's my concern about it is if you don't and everybody submits wild ideas And then down the road that committee, you know, it's There's nothing There's no framework Whereas what you could do is you could put this link out on front porch forum And facebook and you could ask residents of Bethel as residents not as committee members or anything So you could try to up your game by having residents answer and ask questions I guess I was I'm not really sure going to your interpretation. So I was interpreting this as more commentary than What we would operate by but right to sort of address your thought is like if If those groups all met came up with some things and then brought it to the select board Then the select board is still acting like the gatekeepers right to Make sure it adheres to yeah, or is in line with Either the town plan or your own agenda or your own thoughts. Yeah, I don't see your your point of like the work Yeah, I'm not really individuals putting it out there, but I think gene's point was like the strength coming from Direct leadership within the town to the legislature Probably holds more weight than 20 individuals from the same town, right? So that's the like yeah The other old issue I get away about leaders The other option you could do is you could write to we could send an email to the equity inclusion to conservation to energy And ask them to send their comments directly On behalf of the town, but you could ask them to base it Off from something you've already approved, which is a town plan. I'm not really sure how you want to do you You have options here. I'm just trying to think about wanted to make sure if we went for an option I hadn't thought about it this time. I mean like this much so honestly to have a discussion Making sure that we weren't breaking any laws. Yeah. Yeah, I'm doing no if you want to have a group discussion I don't think it's a big deal. I just think that You should I wouldn't want it to stay on Don't you think just because if you get Yeah, and what do you want to encourage people to come? So and then if you had an off chance you had three select boarders or or a quorum of any of these committees Which you could eat the equity inclusion is a small two people could do a quorum of that Right, I think that was my concern was if you if you've been invite these town committees and you start discussing business Yeah, right now you're treading a very Yeah, so you could do either Either way, I'm just trying to think I was just trying to Kind of walk it throughout loud. Like what was the session? How much time do you have to warn it prior to the meeting? Is it 48 or 72 or 48 hours? Usually it's a couple days before like we do it friday for a monday. I think you could do Monday for a wednesday. I think it's 48 It's like an emergency meeting Or but yeah, so I don't know what the select one wants to do but So I think what would carry the most weight For our citizens of the town is to Hold a meeting. Whatever you title it Invite our local representation to the meeting so that they're there. I mean Letters are great, but letters are just letters, right? I mean anybody can make a letter throw it in there and say they're from Bethel, Vermont, right? But if our legislators are actually there And the group of people that want to attend show up and voice their concerns for or against Because you know, I'm just saying like, you know, you know, they could get 100,000 letters from all over Vermont But maybe Bethel's letter is much different And you know, our budget slayers need to know what the people in our town are thinking and feeling not just what the majority is so But so yeah, so if you guys if you did if someone was to do that to take control And warn one and and as a I would just warn as a big committee meeting basically select board All those and then Yeah, exactly and then invite them all and then you would need Someone to moderate it and basically to come up with some framework of a letter to say these are, you know Kind of like we did with the VORC grants Whoever's here and here's our ideas and then we're gonna put it together And then you guys could type it up and then Get the select board to approve it on the next select board media But some of these not quite exactly what we're asking here, but similar things in the past Have gone town meeting day to be a non binding resolution right to be weighed in Is that kind of thing and I just I just worry that we're just like, okay, we got You know 18 days to get it in and now we're only taking a sample of the population that May be more for it or more against it to voice the large people and to get the back of the select board You know, it's like, you know, I don't know. I would I would feel uncomfortable backing something for or against it because I don't think we have enough time to talk to the people in town where I think getting in front of your legislator and Maybe having a meeting like have it here with with uh curtain dick And and invite whoever wants to come come and voice their opinion for this or against it Yeah, this this is not about the legislature. Yeah, but at some point the legislature has to weigh in on this No, the legislature has already weighed in it this will be They have established the legislature has established the vermont climate Council It is the council that has the charge of creating the plan And the legislature the legislator Do they have the names of the council or yeah, they've the council has already been named they've been meeting They are drafting the plan. Do we have a local representation to that council or somebody? No, it's it's a because again I was just going to say maybe some were appointed by the governor some were appointed by this group some appointed but the The point is this is a state appointed council Who is developing the plan? So the legislature has already voted and sent it on and passed it on basically said here make this out That's right. That's that's the legislature has already acted So what we're what we are What we've been in what everybody in vermont's been invited to do is to comment To that climate council On the nature of the plan that the climate council is preparing or putting together in order to meet The the That given to them by the way, it's the mandate given council having any type of Formal meetings where the public can weigh into the they are doing that now. Yes. There are some open meetings as well Uh, to which people are invited and I can get that information send it out Tomorrow I just uh, but the I'm just Well, I'm the quest my question is whether in the Spirit of a non-binding resolution kind of thing the town of bethle Wants to make some sort of an effort of commenting when you put this plan together. Please make sure that it considers Well The other is right The fact that carbon Uh Are going to connect again. Let's make sure that's on the agenda That's not an appropriate use of a plan that will ultimately reduce carbon And so we want so those are the kinds of Comments that can be made. It's not that we're going to Commit bethle to buying xyz or spending x number of dollars We do want the plan to be realistic in terms of what we as bethle might be able to do Right. Sure. That makes sense. We don't want taxes to double But we recognize Or at least I recognize that we're going to have to transition off of carbon and that's a So I guess you guys need to decide what you want to do You know lindley has a good idea which is have a group meeting and Everybody kind of brainstorm and come up for the list and do a submission or you could do a big public push On front porch forum and facebook and websites to get people on their own to submit comments or Could do nothing. I'm trying to give you the three options here. So push the residents you have a meeting together Like lindley's suggesting or you know, so I guess you have to decide here. What's your what would you like to do as a I think you should include representatives. I mean That's what chris's point is, you know, you need to write a letter If they hear it from the their constituents face to face it'll do More than that letter will ever be I mean the letter will be a document so it's in writing, but they heard paul valley say This is what we think we need to do Yeah Well, and that's why you know often when there are things going to vote in the house or senate It's always best to call your representation directly to voice your concern because you know, your representation Whoever it is usually already has their mind sort of made up already And just getting a letter and reading it from chris jarvis and beckall Okay, you know, but if you call him on the phone and say, you know, this is how this is going to impact me as a resident Whatever it is because I've done those calls in the past for like transportation funds and stuff like that But I think the only thing I always like shutter myself. I just hate rushing stuff and it just feels like You gotta have so quickly and we're talking about this Turn around meeting and you get enough buying in the meeting to to get a good enough representation of the population Or do you just get the typical Six people in town that want to go and voice their opinion that happens. Maybe not to be the overall consensus Well, I guess there you have to make a decision what you want to do So I've made but either way, I don't I mean if it came from the select board or if it came from Different groups of citizens or through our representation, you know, however they do that I don't know if it necessarily has to come from the select board. I mean You know, I don't know what weight we carry on it really at this point. I mean we're not So I think what we're looking for is that is a direction, right? Is the select board either want someone to organize this meeting for You know, maybe like Lindley suggested one day I'd go forth and organize that and Do that and then you guys are willing to sign something from the outcome of that on the 11th Or yes 11th or or do you just want a public push for people to fill it out on their own? So I feel like you have Do choices here So I don't know if you want to go. I know what I'm gonna do. Let's see. What do you want to do here? I don't know. I know what I'm you're getting hung up You know, my my thing would be the typical grassroots, you know contact your representatives directly voice your concern because The thing I fear in these things regardless of what side the issue it is is We're going to get the same Same people that are going to have similar voices that are going to speak for 1951 people in the town And again, it's going to happen between now and right, you know, so this is not a lot of time to So I got two for grassroots so I think voices in the community should be heard if if we were to have A meeting next a special meeting next week with inviting everybody to do what to kind of put some ideas together that might Be part of a statement from the town of Bethel by the select board Then the town that same people but also It's a second opportunity the monday following when we have our meeting For people to participate and provide input to whatever we had you know identified The week before so it's two meetings is not just one in which the grassroots would have an opportunity To provide You'd know by the time the agenda is being put together Which is which would be like Yeah, so it was the 11th. I'll do it that thursday 4th. So if we're not telling this to be clear We're not talking about a special select board meeting. No, no, that's correct. We're talking about A community-wide hearing A community-wide hearing on Shall Bethel respond? And if we respond What are the main points we would like to make to the climate council? that's uh I mean, I think it just depends on who wants to organize it. I don't think it's a select board driven function at this point just because the Timeliness of it, but I mean if you wanted to head that up and You know through you and other individuals and Figure out when you would like to do it and and then not just warn it, but You know advertise it so that others can be there on that time date But I don't know if it's like for us to vote on Well, I guess what you would I wouldn't want to see these people do this work And then you get this on the 11th and say we're not gonna sign it You know what I mean or we're not gonna back it. I think that would be That's the advantage of warning Of having a warm meeting of the committees and invite the community to attend You could always submit the minutes of that meeting to the climate council Without putting it in front of the select board That just popped in my head. You could say okay, these are the people lower present We invited all Bethel residents. There was select board member president There was or two where there was energy committee members and then you could submit the minutes That's kind of how you do a non binding resolution You submit the minutes when you vote on a non non binding resolution at Town meeting you send the minutes to Whomever the powers that be the governor whoever it is collecting the information for that So you could just have a one-shot meeting and then submit those Minutes whoever's taking your minutes would have to detail what your outcome is and you could just submit those So that's another thought What if if y'all tell me what you want to do I'll try to organize it I'm not going to commit to another meeting right now. Unfortunately. I've just Most days at vital block there's no gas left And so I'm saving them for twice a month here and a couple others but Dad more I'm not I'm just not going to If you draft an agenda, you could just get it just email Kelly and she'll get it out for you She'll post it in all the right places and put it on the website And you could ask her if you want it to go on facebook or front porch forum. She can do that as well Um for you and then um There's not usually anything here on the hall on that monday night anyways so, um Somebody just come to the office and get the key And then you would just need to Somebody you'd have to get a volunteer then to take the minutes of it And then you'd submit those within five days to Kelly they'd go on the website Then you could also have a nice copy and submit it to the climate counselors And then you could add to the packet at that point if you decide you want to put it in front of the select board You can You guys can decide I guess what happened Since it's like so it's nobody's committed to to vote on on the 11th, but yeah, I don't know it seems like the And gene if you're willing to put some energy into it, you know, it seems like doing a meeting that Specifically invites members of committees of you know committed town town entities that are addressing these things And then also open to the public and like Trace was saying I put it out on facebook or A couple different avenues. Yeah, and if you if you email Kelly and um, you know, she can send it to you know She can also send the invite to We probably have all the email addresses for conservation commission energy planning whatever committees that you want to attend I'm sure Kelly would be happy to disseminate the information. I'll let Kelly know that to expect an email from you gene Email gene and then she can with an agenda and then she can send it to all those folks inviting them And um, you could do you could do planning or whatever all of them and see what we got And then um, there's a white board here and markers and stuff and you kind of do it like we did the other So then at the end would we just get A copy of the meeting minutes at the select board level or would we get a A draft to either put a name on or not At the group this night, yeah You know, obviously you get at the least But then yeah from there decide once to present it or right I mean, I think it's just kind of hard to Commit to it until you have the living You know, this was the you know Kind of what I thought was more like the idea like a template of yeah The idea for that was to get the conversation going. It wasn't to say this is these are the points that We want to yeah, and I think having it as a bigger conversation than just the select board is actually Part of the importance So when do we get to sue the state of Ramon? Tomorrow I I do think all my attorneys are wrapping up the letter. I will I will include some background in that letter Yeah, so that people understand what this is about The background is more important. I think than than this particular particular piece Okay Did we nope approved of meeting minutes? Yeah, so when we just proved the uh, so we had the meeting minutes from the 13th of September I thought the meeting minutes are put together very well So thank you That's truly did a great job. It's always kind of when when you get new minute meeting minutes So like either like you get like not enough or way too much and I thought no hers were great That was a pretty good one. Those hers were great the details with With the over overall one super small amendment Which was uh under visitors Filmed for should probably be filmed by susan bedman. Oh, okay. That's me Okay, okay. See it wasn't even usually now. I think I was really bad. I was gonna pick on you on your first night I think I wrote for it. No, no, that was me. I don't know. I'm the one who edited them after so if I made any changes It's all me. Um, but yeah, so no, well There you go. It's soft. You get soft. There you go. What is it? All right. It's all Don't even know you anymore Okay So I just need a A motion to approve the meetings as amended Meeting minutes as amended Yeah, second So the other was just reminding people that the Bethel community board festivals this weekend. So friday october 1st There's a family fun Night a fall carnival if it's if weather permits from 4 30 to 6 30 at the rec center games races Space painting skate park demo Then saturday october 2nd The family fun run at the rec center adult or older siblings with younger children. They want you to pre-register That's from 11 a noon And then of course vendors exhibits entertainment at the common from 10 to 3 On saturday, um october 2nd and wcbr will be doing a live broadcast from 10 to 2 The fire department doing a chicken barbecue and ganky raffle and then it lists Things that are going on the where valley school music students cloggers Steel drums all sorts of stuff going on Then there's going to be an art show for susie feedback Here at town hall from 10 to 3 Bethel women's exhibit Bethel historical society to be open That's our energy committee exhibit Tracy's pony poles will be our midday chicken pie suppers at san anthony at five At babes, there's going to be a music festival Our music fest, excuse me starts at three $5 entry fee featuring both air green mountain roots drumstick full house Rolling doze will be there moon and stars empanadas. So there's something for everybody so this friday family fun night and then if the weather's good and then saturday looks like everything goes from 10 to Later on whenever babes is going to end so like that's going to be So I'm to battle 10 a.m to 10 p.m on saturday with the board fest going on would Justin is he going to be around at all? I'm assuming that they were they were notified of it So I like to think that they always want to be around so they they know about it. I'll send them a reminder email Oscar and Justin especially with you know the traffic on church street and stuff like that. It's always kind of nice to have it fast 10 to 10, but they are aware of it. So but I'll send them a reminder email tomorrow And there was a slew of communications there in the in the back planning drb special meeting there for the solid waste board transfer station So when um, when are we thinking that we'll start getting the first pieces of the budget? Things are going so well Oh Paul said the gloves are off now Are we thinking the end of october? Yeah We'll start seeing okay. Yeah, because I think that's when we they started to poke out last year Yeah, I think so. Yeah pieces should be fine. I don't think it'll be um Yeah, honestly, I just one piece that I've struggled over. I just have to figure out my head what I want to do and then Rest of it. I mean I can honestly chunks of the budget So, um, well, yeah, no, definitely at the end of october. We'll we'll definitely start with um, I'm not sure I'll start with highway That's that's the one that I I know it's the most money But um, I just have a couple things I need to sit down now and talk about Kind of hash out a couple things in my head and you just sit down with ryan and talk about a plan for next year Some work so but certainly the you know, really if you get the other chunks of the budget out Um That will be the last piece plus two didn't see an email today from the state We haven't seen salt prices yet cargill american rock salt. They haven't put out pricing yet So there's a little piece there that I haven't seen yet either So I also need it. I need to get an estimate on closing pit places. I've known on my desk So you won't see the road budget at the end of october But there's no reason I can't do rec So if I know de tree is going to be on vacation for two weeks, but certainly pick out a chunk of it by the end Do we have any monday meetings coming up in the next month or two that are going to be holiday driven or That we need to think of I don't think so. I think you're all set for october Well, is that a town holiday Probably but I actually work so I guess sometimes I don't think about it But probably it is we'll probably close but we we usually we have meetings even if we're closed So I feel like in the past we've still we still met. Yeah, it's fine. It gives me a day to work without anyone in the office So it doesn't I don't I have no problem So I know when around the holidays you move a meeting or two sometimes around christmas But I think we're all set. I mean thanksgiving we usually don't if anything it's depends on when christmas falls and frankly I haven't looked I don't want to think about christmas I saw something the other day I don't know so many weeks to christmas. I was like Yeah, yeah, so no, unless you all want to move that october meeting. I'm fine with working that day They're very good with the the 11th Keeping that meeting the same Anything else to come before the board? Doug's been awful quiet I got a just a small thing Um, I really don't want to be a complainer but I just see like 1.2 miles of our road that just They did a they graded it today did a great job. The road is smooth as this tabletop But the burns are still there so if it rains the water won't get off the road There's a couple places where the ditches got plugged and then they spilled out the road and they graded over that They didn't clean up that piece of ditch. That's just gonna soon it rains again. It's gonna do it all over again Sanders no my road Go from go from the pond on the backside to the bridge that the interstate crosses the interstate So christian hill from the ansel pond from the top down to the interstate. You said just I've seen so what I'm saying is I've seen that much I don't I can't believe they're doing a lot different anywhere else. Okay, so they filled in the ditch No, they didn't drain did it Okay, but they didn't clean out the ditches. Okay. All right didn't clean ditch and they left the berm. Okay And the the berm has been there all summer All right, they just graded the center of the road made the beautiful the center of the road beautiful Yeah, but he left the berm I'll have this if I mean it all it's just going to be gone again Soon. All right. I'll I'll text hazen in the morning conversation Yep Well, Allen's off for a couple of days go up there and cut some weep holes or something I'll text hazen in the morning and tell him, you know, berm out and uh, you gotta remove the berm and uh You've got to do some grader ditching I mean some of it. I could walk down 100 yards here in my house with a hand shovel and in 35 seconds I could fix it. Yeah done. Dave's gonna take care of it I'm pretty volunteer. Okay. I don't want to hear any bitching about You know doing that that someone told me not to touch it because it's not why I did not my business Remove not your dig berm That's great We could put aside if we put aside that says Dave's ditch. Okay All right. Well, I'll I'll text hazen in the morning and um, just because if he's doing it there He's doing the other places and he just doesn't probably just doesn't realize so I'll I'll send him Unfortunately, but they're gonna have to do, you know, pull the grade over stop climb down take the show And yeah, and also to if he needs to practice at at ditching using the greater than that's helping too And that to me that's what we should be doing. We should put put somebody there did pretty many graders say, okay You don't have to do it 2.5 miles today I want you to learn to do something right for 100 Right. Yeah, and we did that And eventually you'll do that 2.5 miles and do it all right Yeah, and we did bring someone down so maybe we need to see well stew's gone But bring down Todd and have him do some more some more training with him too. So all right Well, I'll send he's in the text message In the morning and just tell him hey And then they won't maybe not backtrack tomorrow, but at least moving forward where he's going he can deal with it Tomorrow and then I can have a allen backtrack. Nobody ever said anything. Nobody knows. I agree. I totally agree We have lost a Shitload of material because there used to be a back that's right at the top of what we call the letter s And now you can't there's no material in the road. So the road is so low. You can't use that back Beautiful back there for saving that hill But you can't get down to it because you're already your roads already That's because you don't put any material on the road On a regular basis Just you know I branded it up about that one But no, I will send him a text message in the morning And let him know we're giving him a buzz So that was good. Thank you Make a new turn. We adjourn Second, okay, I want to be here. Hi. Hi