 Hello everybody, nice to see you all coming from all over the world. You are part of the Eden webinar on when education moves home, which is part of our online webinars of the Eden Associations and Diana Andone, the Vice President of Eden. We are still waiting for another one or two minutes for everybody to join us and to be live. You can say from where you are coming and my colleagues will be able to show to you from where you are coming and that you can also register in the language my colleagues have listed so you can receive a badge for your participation in this webinar. I hope you can all see us. We are also broadcasting live on YouTube so you can also see us live on YouTube. That's very good that you can all hear us and see us coming from all over the world, from Europe, but also from Bangkok even. That's very good and very nice. And from that we are from Serbia, from Sweden, from Romania, my colleagues, from Portugal, Germany, Austria, Mexico, that's nice. Kenya, that's even nicer. Ireland, everybody's welcome. Athens, welcome to everybody. We are so happy that you are so interested about our webinars, about the Eden webinars. You can all see the information about these webinars here and you will be able to join us and to register for the other and the future webinars. I'm Diana Andone, I'm coming from the Polytechnica University of Timisoara in Romania where I'm the director of the Center of eLearning, a very busy person and center during these times. And I'm also Eden, vice president in charge with communication and community. I hope you enjoy our initiative of these webinars and please allow me to start this webinar. First of all, by thanking Eden for allowing us to do this and also for thanking my university, we are using our university connection for this webinar so we can have as many as possible joining our slide. Today's webinar is about when education moves home and the implications for students, academics, administrators and education leaders. It is my great pleasure to introduce the main speaker of today, which is Dr. Eba Ossial-Nielsen, coming from Sweden. She is my colleague in the Eden Executive Committee for many years now but she's also a member of the Executive Committee of another large organization working in eLearning, which is ICDE, and she has a very long-standing experience on quality assurance, especially for online and distance education. We will start directly with Eba, with her saying you're welcome and then we will start with the presentation. Thank you so much, Diana, for your kind introduction and thank you so much to Eden for setting up this series of webinars in this very strange period of time we all are living in for the moment. So it's a great honor for me to be part of this webinar series and to share some of my experiences and thoughts about the topic and I thank you all for setting the time to be together with us for this webinar and being here together with us and I hope you all are safe and healthy and stay at home wherever you are and I believe that you all are very busy because we are in this area. We really have a very, very busy moment now and that is also one of the reasons why those webinars are so important so we can share our common experiences to move forward. So can I have my first slide please, Diana? Next one, next. I choose to have the title, When Education Moves Home and the implications for students, academics and administrators and educational leaders because it will have an impact and the consequences and affect all of us. It's not just for the teachers, it is for the leaders, for quality assurance agencies, it is for everyone how to deal with this situation. I will just go through some slides. We all see those headings in the newspapers, in social media, post-pandemic outlook for higher education is for the parents how COVID-19 could accelerate opportunities for higher education time for universities to show their commitment to society. So higher education and education have really, really an important role. Next one please. Here are some other ones. We are moving classrooms to the keyboard. We are working from home. We have the coronavirus COVID-19 at our keyboards and there is a lot of posts and the news all the time. I have just chosen some of them and I'm sure you have seen a lot and seeing a lot all over the places. Next one please. This is also a question, what will happen with the universities when education moves home? What will happen with staff? Next one please. We have some kind of new normal. The COVID-19 creates a big transformation in lifestyle for all of us and I'm sure all of us who are here and your colleagues and friends back home you have changed a lot in your habits already for those weeks when we have been more or less isolated. So lifestyle has changed. Education has changed and I am sure and many of us it will change even more. Business has changed and everything in our daily life and societies has changed. And maybe although it is so terrible in this terrible situation we will learn some lessons from it and that is for example for how the fourth industrial revolution and the fourth educational revolution can be a stronger part in building a new society because nothing will go back to normal. Next one please. I have a very short video from UNESCO so instead of me saying those words we like UNESCO to say this to you. Maybe some of you have seen this video before. There is a from UNESCO a global education coalition starting just some weeks ago. I will encourage you to have a look at the web page here. As of today, March 25 over 1.4 billion learners worldwide are affected by school closures due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Nearly overnight we have entered a radically new age of learning. Schooling on our planet has gone virtual delivered over airwaves and broadband has just stopped. The starting point is not the same for all. The greatest danger is that children from marginalized backgrounds will lose out on their education and we cannot let this happen. The scale of the challenge demands innovation, partnership, solidarity. We need to act urgently and work together as one. This is why UNESCO is launching the COVID-19 Global Education Coalition today. We have on board members of the UN family, civil society organization, media companies, IT partners. They have eagerly stepped forward to share their talent, tools and technology to tackle content and connectivity gaps. Together we will help countries design and deploy innovative and context-sensitive solutions that leave no one behind. Education cannot stop. It is a fundamental right. Let's be sure to keep it that way through this crisis and well beyond and to draw as well the lessons of this crisis for the future of education. Thank you very much. So thank you. So please if you have any comments or questions you are welcome to post that in the chat but there is also here in Zoom a question and answer box where you also can put your questions and we will have a look at that and you throughout the presentations. So as was said from the UNESCO education can't stop. And I think you have seen a lot of headings in the newspapers. Now universities are closed, schools are closed. Schools can't close. Education have to continue. So I will argue throughout this presentation that education and learning has opened up although the buildings are closed. And that is a big difference in the approach we all have to take. Education and learning will never stop as was said by Ginasco. This article became more or less viral during the last week. The difference between emergency remote teaching and online learning. Many of us have been in this area for many many years maybe decades and we have struggled with getting online learning as mainstreamed. Now suddenly just over one night everyone had to do it and there are differences how you do it if you have the time, if you have the capacity if you have all the resources and as you have to move this square box just over one night. There are differences in approaches but nevertheless it is not just a quick fix to make it we still need to do it with quality with all the resources which are available and all the knowledge and science which are available so it can be sustainable because nothing will go back to normal and that's a real chance to do something good from this terrible situation. If you haven't come across this article I will encourage you to read it. In all my slides I have put the links where I have the references. I don't have a reference list in the end but the links are on the slides directly. Next please. So who are involved? Of course the learners, the teachers, the academics, the admins, the managers at all levels and that includes the assurance agencies. And also the parents. Actually when this seminar was announced there was a question directly to me if I would tackle the question of the parents as well and I will. I will start with leadership. Leaders today have a very, very tough situation how to tackle this situation for all the partners who are involved and also how to lead remotely bringing everyone on board and leaving no one behind. And what applies for the labour law in the corona times? Not just to put everything online it's not just to transfer educational settings or whatever it is online because there are different aspects also when it comes to working environments which maybe are not so much focused I will tackle something about that in my presentation because it's very important and also of course leaders need to be to get support and as I said leaders are at all levels micro level, meso level, micro level. Next please. So how to lead successful teams when everyone is remote and how to get everyone on board and how to get everyone motivated and still being part of the team it is a really, really tough question. There is a lot of support pages about how to deal with this very, very tough situation for example this one from corporate learning network leadership during crisis. Next please. And then for the administrators it is important to develop a straightforward institutional plan to see how everything fits together to still have this try to still have this holistic perspective and to define a default model so everyone is more or less dealing on the same kind of direction. Please stay. And what is really, really important for students they can take control of their own learning when they are studying from home when education has moved home. It is important to let students know what to expect and when to expect things so everything needs to be transparent. That is quite hard especially when you have to deal with it to just change the way of teaching and learning and the curricula of teaching in the classroom and in the classroom at night. Maybe you notice that not everything is so transparent as you maybe have wished it should have been and don't overdo the technological aspects. Next one. And then for teachers there are global calls for action on teachers for learners and for education. You can't put all the pressures for the teachers and that is why I wanted to have this holistic approach with all the stakeholders involved because all of us need to be part in this whole change we have. And teachers are the backbone of education and it's not the buildings and that is also again it is not about the schools are closed. Yes they are closed because education is open and maybe more open as anytime. I have some polls in my presentation and here's the first one. So while I'm talking a bit you can maybe reflect on have your institution transfer to distance online flexible education. Are there anything your students have gained from this transformation? So you can have a look at the poll please. So in this international task force on teachers for education 2030 it calls for all the governments educational providers and funders and public and private institutions to recognize the critical role that teachers play in the COVID-19 response and recovery. Thank you Diana. Especially for educators there are some recommendations don't go wild and crazy and again see what is the way your institution has chosen and how does your way of doing this transformation fit in that model you have chosen. Because otherwise it will be very difficult for everyone. And also use and support the tools that are available which already are used. Maybe you can mainstream them even more. Maybe you can make it more fine-tuning or whatever and also use the analytics and try to be as responsive as possible really listening to your students really be present for your students, for your learners and in case you don't have institutional guidance talk to peers talk to your colleagues take help and try to work together to get some kind of institutional guidance. There is a lot, a lot already available from those weeks and I will show some of them later on in the presentation. Coming to the students all the research has shown that online learners say that they choose online education because it works best for them just for me, just in time learning they can develop critical thinking and problem solving they can learn about time management attention to details writing skills teamwork and oral communication this is what research has shown how can that be used when you are transforming the education where you are the institution you are in can that be mainstream, can it be developed can it be sustainable let's please in Sweden we have a very, very interesting initiative the text is in Swedish but I will just I choose to show it because it is an initiative where authorities, companies even private sector have come together and set up a page which is called school at home and here school teachers, administrators stakeholders can find more or less everything information and there are even digital lessons which they can use and they are mostly as OVRs it was an initiative actually I mean it came out from this crisis and it was led by the RISE Research Institute of Sweden and they managed to work together all those stakeholders and also the authorities who are dealing with education in Sweden and it more or less came up after just some days so if you bring people together that can come something very, very good out of it and they choose to show this although the text is in Swedish because it has already I have already got a lot of requests about it because people have seen it from abroad so maybe that is something you can do in your countries so there is a saying, a way is good but home is best but it is maybe a bit different when you are working from home day after day week after week it not just you go for or stay in the bed and do some readings or do some things on the internet or posting some assignments or whatever it is you have to be also very, very disciplined and that is also an issue which has not really been tackling so much but what I have seen at least there is a lot of focus on that now how you can make your studying at home more efficient more with quality not just randomly I do that now and then I can go out and do that and that how can you really kind of go back to the previous page please thank you of course many of us we order to live in a time what is possible for us to do multi-activities remotely and that is very, very good but again it is a bit different day as I said or week after week and how do you need to arrange your work in place at home that is both for the workers, for teachers for academics, for leaders but also for the students next one please next one so this is again an example from the Swedish initiative they talk a lot about digital ergonomics and here is a very nice film that one is in English I would not play it here but you can do it afterwards if you like we see on the left hand side that quite often study work in places a lot of things which are disturbing you because you are not used to work at home maybe eight hours a day and that makes really different and you also need to have the pauses you need to have good good chairs, good tables good light good ventilation and all this kind of things so there is a lot of things to think about both for the workers and for the learners but also for the managers for the leaders because you need to have an environmental environment which is good and safe for you next one please so you need to be sure that you of course have internet you have a computer or tablet of course and the workplace where you don't disturb others and also where others don't disturb you you need to be rather disciplined you need of course to have all your logins and the tools you need and of course knowledge how to use it and what kind of digital channels are available for you and how can you manage your workplace so you can sit for a while without getting tired or without hurting yourself next one so there are some strategies to succeed keep your regular routines write a to-do list avoid anything that distracts you schedule your breaks have video meetings with your colleagues and end the day in time it is quite easy as we all know when we are working with the computers suddenly one hour has gone and suddenly two hours try to manage your day because this can also last for a rather long time next one please we know from research from earlier on about e-learning and online learning and Diana mentioned the work I'm doing myself about quality the mean by colleagues we did some research a while ago and there are some features which are extremely important to keep online learners going on and for them to be satisfied and to manage to do their online learnings first of all it is about presence presence with the academics with the teacher presence with the peers trust the courses you are doing the material you are having and working with can you trust it it's about interaction flexibility in all means team space path material media etc accessibility motivation it needs to be personal or personalized humor is a very important aspect it is it is fun to learn it is fun to study and you don't have to forget that because that can improve and record comprehension and satisfaction and then of course the famous kiss keep it simple and safe next one please so the parents the situation for the parents suddenly being the teacher with the children besides the work they are doing and maybe they are not very used to online learning either or online tools or digital tools here is a very nice page for parents about online resources for kids who are now learning at home and I found it very very useful so maybe that is something you can look at the parents need to be the teachers as well and to learn together with the children next one please besides the stakeholders the curricula as such is an important change agent here are two reports one from the European Commission curriculum guidelines 4.0 and one about advancing a new mindset about curriculum design in Sweden agency for higher education they have started to think about now with the corona their need maybe to be changes in the curricula so we can see what maybe all not all the goals in the curricula can be achieved in the way we have to when we have to change the way we are educating nowadays so maybe the curricula also can help us to achieve for the change and also again nothing will go back to so called normal what we did yesterday or some weeks ago so it's also a good way to start to think about the future how we already by this crisis can make things going further on and keep the movement next one please next one please Diana so first of all are there any stakeholders involved then we still have to keep the quality issues and here is one of the models which is very often used but we can't he has done one for e-learning for MOOCs for OER for this is the latest one about micro-learning and I choose this one because micro-learning become even more important when education moves home because you can't have those or modules because that is very boring for the learners managing their homework from home you need to have small pieces just in time just for me so that's why I choose this one for micro-learning but the features are the same you need to have the pedagogical issues of course the technological the interface design how is the course design how is the material design which you are offering evolutions assessments management resources the support ethical issues and the overall institutional to achieve just in time and self-directed self-paced bite-sized cost-effective learning and this is a very good model because it showed the holistic perspective so again it's not just about the teachers having to change their way of teaching it is the educational system as such I will just briefly go through some of the initiatives which have just come up the latest days actually when I prepare this presentation I have the links so you can have a look at it further on because although the not the global associations organizations have just in some days put up a lot of initiatives and collected a lot of resources how you can deal with this transformation when education moves home and also for all the stakeholders so I believe that all of you have so much to do already so why reinvent the wheel all the time there's a lot of resources out there use that and see how that can fit in your context in your country in your institution this is the one about from Commonwealth of Learning I will just show them for you so you can see them next one please this actually came out today it is from Commonwealth of Learning from OER University from ICDE and from UNESCO and that is a support group for education during the COVID-19 it is very much focused on OER and here really OER makes a huge role as learning materials again you don't have to reinvent the wheel all the time use what is already out there and in case translate it, adapt it revise it whatever but don't overdo it because there is a lot of things already out there, I am sure you have enough to do this came out today you can register so you can be in the community if you like this was the one which is part of the video I showed you from the beginning COVID-19 educational disruption and response UNESCO has again here put a lot of information for all stakeholders and a lot of resources and materials next one please this is one of the pages within go back please this is one of the pages within the previous one where you have distance learning solutions next one please the page from Aurora Institute they talk very much about continuity of learning resources because that is what we have to face more and more to our school systems to orient towards any time and anywhere learning and that is in the same way to modernize our system to meet students and individuals need and it's a good time to reflect on that now when you have to change as well next one please and the other initiative from UNESCO again is about the futures of education and that is initiative which is going behind or be joined the SDGs because it's heading for even 2050 but again as you need to do a change and nothing will go back to normal again we need to change for a future and for a future we want and the futures of education where learning to become is crucial and where individuals have to take a larger responsibility because change is driven by people not by laws, not by documents not by strategies it is driven by people next one please so literature and research there are some predictions number one blended learning will dramatically increase online education will be a strategic priority at every institution existing and potential OPM partnership will be with thought I don't have the answer I don't know if anyone have the answer but something will happen and something will will change and for sure the answer is change will happen in one another way this was from 1st of April next please so the message is we are not going back to normal do the best as you can and I'm sure you are doing all of you to stop the coronavirus we will need to radically change everything what we are doing we need to change lifestyle business education exercises social patterns shops etc and also about how we are living our lives and about healthcare many of us are saying and I hear it more or less daily it will be nice when we can go back to normal again but there will not be that normal that we knew before next one please this is my contact details next one please so we have some time but before we are going to the question and answers I will leave you with this question how do you think that the future of education and learning will be and we are coming back to that question but before we are doing that I will ask Diana, my colleague to say something about her experiences because she is right in the middle of everything as a manager and as a teacher so please Diana can you share some of your advices yes thank you so much that was a very interesting presentation and if I can say also that I'm very curious how the reactions from the audience are going to be remind everybody that we have a poll which is open still and we are going to leave it open for another 3-4 minutes and then I'll close it and we can discuss the results out of it let me say something about our experience maybe here in Romania but also translatable to other higher education pre-can-mortar institutions institutions to which online learning was only a small part of what they were doing they were based on campus, in-city education with very strong support from lab work from project work from seminars and classes in big amphitheaters for us blended learning for a lot of us was only a support so you had like we had in the Polytechnica University in Timisoara in Romania campus as mainly a support for our students and professors where you will have some of the teaching materials where you will be able to communicate with your students from time to time but it will be only seen as a support for teaching not the main method of teaching and that was the biggest challenge when on 13th of March we needed by day zero let's make it like that to move everything online and also from the management perspective from the technical perspective from the support, the continuous support which we need to give for the teachers and the students but also from the quality assurance perspective which is something which I will try to catch very very little to add extra to what Eba was saying so from the management perspective usually the biggest challenge is how to make as a leader everybody follow you not to make it compulsory but for people to willingness to will to go online to will to teach online using video conferencing to use a lot of interaction to use open and educational resources and to integrate them more vividly and more interactively in their courses to submit and even to pass and to give exams online when you have never done that to the exams in city and in campus mainly because that's the legislation that was the quality agency assurance main thing that the exams need to be in campus face to face exams all the time so how you overcome that from the management perspective then also technically internet is very very stress now not the web speaking about the internet everybody's connection from home is struggling is not always the best you don't have everybody not even from the start not to mention students which will have good access to internet which will have their own laptop quite a lot of them share computers and laptops at home how you assure that everybody can has an equitable and correct access to your studies to your classes to your online environment when you cannot assure when you know for sure that is a digital divide between the different parts of the society and even in as we consider one of the best it's probably not one of the best technical University of Romania and we have very very good students our students need to pass an admission exam of math quite a lot of them so they're very good and quite technically oriented but they still struggle and how you give support how you manage with 25 thousand users constantly and continuously to give the support with a team which was not how to say prepared to face this beside your normal teaching I'm also professor I'm used to this online teaching but even for me sometimes it's tiring being six hours online running webinars because for our support also for the professors and also for the students meant that me and my staff we were every day in the last two weeks and a half online for one to three hours giving advice giving training answering to questions to people which were professors from mainly from our University but not only and they were every day between 150 to 300 and something we reach sometimes the limit we couldn't let anybody more in the room to be able to listen and to ask questions correctly and to see us so that's one and that's the last one but probably not the least is how you will assure that the students which will graduate this year your alumni will have the same degree the same competencies the same certificate when for two maybe for three months they will study online they will probably pass exams in a different format than the predecessors had a different form than the law at least at this moment allows us to do it how you will assure that from I don't know five ten years ago the generation of 2020 the graduates of 2020 will be not seen as a second second hand students second hand engineers or second hand scientists because they will say you passed your finals online your last months of education were much more lighter than to the others even if that's not true we all know that the quality assurance in online education can be proven to be as good as in traditional higher education but these are the questions which we are facing now we are struggling to find good answers we overpass let's make the first steps of moving everything online improving everybody's digital competencies overnight and allowing everybody to join us online as much as possible even using mobile phones not necessarily a laptop and a computer but now we need to face the reality that this is going to be longer and we need to make sure that the graduates of 2020 will be nothing to be ashamed of but to be proud that they've experienced a completely different education method and they will be proud to say probably the most celebrated ones that they graduated in 2020 so that was my input more or less a tiny bit probably supplementing EBA's input was much excellent and congratulations again to EBA so let's thank you so much Diana that was really my point because we really will fail if we are just moving the traditional teaching online because we all know who are working in this area but for others maybe it's so easy to say oh you can just put your lecture online and that will help and that is good enough but there are so many other aspects and features and issues which we really have to rethink and that was the main purpose of the topic of my presentation what will happen when education moves home and there's so much we have to rethink for all the stakeholders for what is really education about and let us take this momentum and again as I have stressed so many times although it is a terrible and the worst crisis ever we need to make something good from it and as you were saying Diana maybe those students who are graduating now or maybe next year or whatever of course yes they have different kind of skills, competences attitudes, values and that is that is good, it can be good and as I said there are so many resources already out there please have a look if you have the time and try to get some kind of inspiration from there and as you have seen there are hashtags we for Eden we have online together hashtag from ICD we have a future learning together from UNESCO they have the future of learning so just follow those tags and you will really be in the large community I have seen there is some questions here in the yes please but that's why I wanted to point you let's pick one of the questions which is like what is the suggestion to use with the students without internet and how you make equitable education so maybe you can answer to that one if you can yes yes that is a very very good question and very interesting because we take for granted that more or less everyone have internet nowadays and that is not the case we know that and also with with physical distance it's not easy to go to a library or to a cafe or to go to even to a neighbor or whatever so it is problematic but I don't have of course the solution for that but still I think we have to be very very innovative and creative wherever we are in whatever kind corner of the world we are we are to find solution and to make it as I said I had in one of my slides don't make it more complicated than it is make it simple the kiss principle I mean books and papers and whatever are still good everything doesn't need to be on internet or online but I think we have to rethink what teaching and learning is about and not just about transforming knowledge from one person to another I have seen many examples nowadays how creativity can really flourishing it's not an answer for your question but it was some news from my country where they have you know those people who will become what is called for bakeries how they could do the bakery with the internet and to have homework and it was fantastic creative so I'm sure you who are asking this question can discuss with your peers in your country but the main issues as they were stressed by UNESCO as well the issue here is don't leave anyone behind don't leave anyone behind and that is the main message and that is also a lot of articles about that for people who are for example with disabilities or some kind of difficulties learning disabilities or whatever there are some huge problems for them nowadays and that was also why I wanted to say that it's not just about the learning materials and the teaching as such but also I mean the whole situation so to say but don't leave anyone behind we can't afford that indeed that's one of the most coming up question how you assure that students with disabilities students who don't have access to latest technology can still do it and another question which I think is also a bit interesting is students are spending too much time with their computer so on the other side of the panel we are also worrying about the students who don't have access to computers and to internet and who have disabilities and very quickly in an emergency learning it's difficult to assure that all the materials and everything what you do are available for people with disabilities and you need to rely on a lot on web tools for this but there is also a question about what tasks and activities would you suggest to reduce the time spent with the computers Yes for the last issue that was also why I had some of the slides about we need to think about the working load for the students and for the learners and also maybe to stress for them I mean it's not just to sit in the sofa and do some computing or searching on internet or doing some assignments here and there but really to be disciplined and to organize your work in place as well Maybe we can give some advice and some support for our students and some activities have started online psychological support and also the most important activities which every day they send to their students and ask them to do it online I mean at home where they don't need even to go online there is only a link or some photos where they need to do some exercises But also for the teachers working at home nowadays I mean the laws which regulate the working load and the working places and the safety and this kind of things for example is a small video about economic it's very useful you need to now and then stand up and stretch out to make breaks and whatever So again it is not just an issue for the teachers and for the academics going online it is for the entire educational system and maybe even there are maybe new stakeholders within the system which we didn't have before who are needed now So other questions are about the quality assurance and the examination and the evaluation so what's your input on this do we have any methods which can ensure that this move from the traditional face to face to online examination can be what to say proven or can be reliable Yes for the online examinations I will say again I mean the first issue I will stress is about what is the point of evaluations and assessments that is the first question we have to ask ourselves and of course I mean many of the traditional exams and assignments that we are having in both universities and schools today are quite unnecessary because it's just about facts and figures and that is not what is needed in the working life or in the society to be an active citizen so we have to rethink assignments and exams that is the first point and then there is already so many evidence about digital exams if you do it in the right way that they are more safe for the students, they are more safe for the teachers, they are more safe for the administrators and I mean for securities reasons so there are so many positive aspects there is a lot of resources and literature about that as well but the first issue is we have to rethink exams and examination and then it comes to the second point which you also stressed Diana I used to say the way quality assurance agencies for example are assessing universities that is what universities are delivering and what universities are asking faculties that is what faculties are delivering and it goes down to the students what teachers are saying what would come for the exam that is what students are focusing on so there is this kind of bad change and as long as we are not changing this system for example with the quality assurance agencies they need to ask for different kind of questions to the universities to the universities and then universities would deliver or students would deliver for example as you were saying yourself Diana there are other kind of competencies learners maybe have learned during this crisis not at least for digital competencies and some of the issues I have been one of my slides the green one with the problem-based competencies and motivation and collaboration and this kind of things those are really seldom measured or stressed by the quality assurance agencies so I think we it's not an easy task for example if I can just say because there are several questions about assignments and how you can simulate online activities based on the face-to-face one and on the traditional one is like for example what we are doing to us is like we are giving the students either a multiple choice online exam or even a handwritten one because if they need to draw things or to design things and it's very difficult for them now to have access to specialized software from home our university cannot all deploy to everybody at home on their own personal computer special software which we used to have in our lab so we are going back to the roots sometimes on engineering drawing by hand which is also a good skill probably to relearn from some of us we watch them via video conference so you do this how to say the structuring by having the same time when you do a multiple choice of a test or any sort of examination by watching them via video conference and asking them from time to time to show what they are doing and how they are doing so there are ways where you can really how to say support them there is another question here which is quite interesting and maybe we can try to answer into this one it's coming that I think that video interaction between students and teachers is essential for motivation of students to deal with the topic of the course how to motivate educators in institutions to apply some video platforms such as Zoom or other in their teaching activities. I have a feeling that there is a number of educators which just uploaded their teaching material in the LMS system it is a very good point again that is very much about don't think that you can just move your lessons online because that is not the case you need to have it as you are saying yourself more interactive make it interesting, make it more personal, maybe small modules with just small pieces and maybe you can individualize it a bit of course it is a larger question which we can discuss for more or less another webinar again so I will just a quick answer that don't think you can just move your traditional course to an online course because that would be very boring and you will not get your students or your pupils on board I will say because I see that it is soon time to finish I will say I know that many of you are maybe alone at your places and if you feel alone please join some kind of community I know in many countries in my own countries there is a lot of Facebook groups and LinkedIn groups nowadays on this issue you can be in a community you can learn from others so take the opportunity again my point of this presentation was more about to see the opportunities which are required and needed due to this terrible situation and there is a time for a lot of rethinking and there are a lot of communities not at least those with from the organizations and there is already on Thursday coming up an event by this one by ICD and Commonwealth of Learning and OER University and UNESCO and about OER and you can register there and you can be in the community and there is a webinar on Thursday already at 9 o'clock CET in the morning you have the link in the presentation so we have the answers on some of the polls yes so if you would like to comment so it's quite clear that the vast majority of the institutions have transferred to online and to flexible this education and there what is most successful is that they consider that the students have gained most digital competencies from this which is quite obvious in a way but also I quite like that they enjoy the flexibility of this learning and they know that you need to be more adjustable and more flexible which is probably something which also the professors have told you not only the students if I make comment base and also the third question how do you think that the future will be affected by this crisis and by this time quite a lot of them point to the thing that online learning will increase let's hope that the quality of online learning will also increase and that we will be able to deliver quite a good quality based online education in the future and blended learning will be the norm also for all types of education maybe not only higher education but also for let's say pre-university the K-12 and the schools which also have moved online we haven't really touched that subject that much today we focus more on the higher education experience but I think the biggest change and the biggest challenge is for the kids age 8 to 18 which have moved online quite a lot of them and which are struggling in homes where they don't have the same, they share the same computer with their parents and where it's very interesting for them to go online and they are not aware of any of the privacy or the problems which can be faced on going online and having every single line and sharing information and searching for information because the school haven't given them yet that and it's a lot of issues which are raised now but the positive is digital competencies I think we can learn already from this webinar and from your answers for the poll number two we can really learn a lot about that and how can we move on with that in our back head when we are planning for the future because I really think students have really galed a lot and they have already taken the responsibility so with that I will say as I started I will not say that schools and universities are closed they are more open hopefully and they will become even more open with all our experiences and let us move from here and move to a better world and better learning opportunities for all and don't leave anyone behind so with that I will thank you so much for your attention and for being with us for this webinar it has been a great pleasure to share some thoughts with you and thanks again to Diana and thanks again to Eden for setting up this series of webinars and thanks all for being part of this conversation and try to be part in some of the communities which are setting up either in your country your institution globally or whatever because everyone is here for helping us out and together we can be strong and we need to do something good about it so thank you very much indeed thank you very much Elba I want to say that we collected the majority of the questions from the chat and from the Q&A and also from the YouTube we couldn't answer all of them now but we'll do the best together with the Eden team and the Eden EC and the Eden Fellow to answer to them and to post them online on the Eden website so join us a bit later this week for more answered questions in writing from us I would like to stress again collaborate between us between all of us not only between teachers but join companies join communities and try to work together that we overcome this time and we get the best experience maybe just one last point and that is take care all of you stay safe and stay at home exactly that was what I wanted to say stay healthy stay at home and take care of you and let's see us happy please remember that Eden has moved the conference which was supposed to be in Timishara so I was supposed to welcome you in June in Timishara but it's going to be fully digital now please go online in our conference page and submit papers we still have the call open until the 30th of April we are welcoming also from projects, from ideas let's hope that all of these experiences which we had gained during this time will be able to be presented in the digital Eden conference in June so please register and join us we promise it's going to be a very very interesting and interactive digital experience all the best and thank you all be safe and healthy