 Hey everybody it's a full house and I don't mean the 80s TV show hey hey hey Lamar hey hey what's going on nice digs I like the Captain America shield it represents my strength and power that I will be bringing to this podcast today I appreciate that you bring it every time that way yes Len Peralta is here too I am here I am here and I'm ready yes we're not recording it though was no we are not where we're doing we're recording video so the YouTube people hello YouTube nation they're looking at us oh my god my hair although unofficial video podcast viewers probably see us too you're like don't call me a youtuber I'm getting this by podcast all right here we go ready yep yes we have we have a darling intro today dark just darling it's darling hey dad can you love me a buck please yeah sure why because I want to donate to daily tech news show what but how are you gonna do that I'm gonna head over to patreon.com slash ace detect and if you like the show then you can donate to this is the Daily Tech news for Friday October 10th I'm Tom Merritt joining me today yeah it's Lamar Wilson whoo from the internet back on the show how you doing man good man it's good to have you back I know you had a you had a bumpy ride there for couple weeks so I'm glad things are normal for you yeah health is a lot better so thanks for having me back I appreciate it no problem thanks for coming back it's a Friday Len Peralta is here I want one of those I'll be called Lamar Wilson today too there you go yeah we'll just yeah that works for everybody let's gonna illustrate the show he's got a new fantastic podcast on tested.com to tell you about in a little bit but let us start with the headlines the Verge reports 13 gigabytes of private snapchats are circulating through 4chan the leak is being called the snappening snapchat has confirmed that the leak came from a third-party app that users installed to save snaps that would otherwise have been deleted the identity of the app is in question it's not yet known however snapchat pointed out that use of any such an app violates their terms of service precisely because it weakens your security yeah so basically they said it's your fault you use that app that's what you get shame on you they're there they'd stop just short of going you did it yeah we tried to tell you we tried to tell you in fine print that you never read when you pressed okay and install the app that's right CNET reports that Microsoft CEO Sachin Adele went to a conference about women in computing was Grace Hopper conference love Grace Hopper she's a legend and Adele was asked what advice he'd offer women who were unsure how to ask their boss for a raise his answer it's not really about asking for the raise but knowing and having faith that the system will actually give you the right raises as you go along adding I think it might be one of the additional superpowers that quite frankly women who don't ask for raises have this answer did not go over well with women everywhere and Adele said controls he controls he actually what he eventually actually said was that his response was quote in articulate and that the tech industry must close the gender pay gap and sent a letter to all of Microsoft saying quote I answered that question completely wrong and he slept on a couch that night yes he slept on the Microsoft HR couch yeah now it's you know what Jenny Joseph said and I were talking about this before the show and we want to believe that he actually learned something out of this like I think so yeah turning around and saying I answered that question completely wrong is not what all CEOs would have done in that situation he basically didn't defend himself he's like yeah I screwed up yeah the point and gadget reports Tesla finally unveiled the D yesterday got it's a model s with all-wheel drive an autopilot and a dual motor that can go from zero to sixty and three point two seconds I get why they said the D now because it's the P85d of course that's the model number gigamory reports the autopilot can read speed limit signs what's the point of going zero to sixty three point two seconds if you're gonna make it read speed limit signs it can recognize animals and objects in front of the car it can follow lanes through curves the base model will run a hundred twenty thousand dollars list but that will come down below six years with electric vehicle subsidies most likely ouch I yeah I saw it looks amazing I I don't know if I want to be the passenger seat but some is going zero to sixty and three seconds that probably freak me out three point two seconds I think it was who I can't remember who I saw on Twitter who was like if they do three point two seconds I'll eat my hat so somebody's eating a hat today put the salt on it yeah giga home reports Google released a European transparency report Thursday that indicates on a country-by-country basis how many requests it has received under the right to be forgotten rules and how many of those requests it has actually honored the two biggest sources of requests were Germany and France who got their way just over half of the time top domains for delisting were Facebook profile engine dot com YouTube and badu the report details the reasons for requests along with whether they were honored or not but does not identify the requesters Reuters report Cisco and TCL Corp will create an eighty million dollar joint venture to invest in commercial cloud services TCL will pay a sixty four million dollar investment amount for an eighty percent share of the company while Cisco will drop sixteen million for the other twenty percent the new company will build data centers in China and set up cloud based video communications and collaborative office systems for small businesses and medium size enterprises in China as well as other users Reuters reports microchip technology CEO Steve song he's warning is being taken seriously by the markets Thursday song he warned of a broad downturn in the semiconductor market several U.S. semiconductor makers lately have been saying that their global operations are threatened because industries like auto and network equipment are reducing demand for chips are they mostly because they're making their own like Apple making their own or no because Apple doesn't actually make its own so you know yeah I mean Apple designs it but they still have a they still have to have a fab build it they have what's called a fabulous design not fabulous although maybe that it might be fabulous yeah so no it's not it's definitely not that this is just like overall demand for chips they're just not needed to make as many chips right now the verge reports that Norway has new bank notes with pixelated drawings of the sea on them norgas banks selected the blocky and abstract work of snow Heta for the back of its notes with traditional drawings on the front the verge notes that the money is designed in an unashamedly modern style that the designers intentionally built around pixels in the belief that they are our times visual language it's a bit money did they when they smoking while they did this put this together smoking you know I was well I wonder what what process it looks a little like they had a dirty image on the back of the note and then they tried to pixelate it like oh no we can't show that on money time now for some news from you these are particular stories that have been submitted to our subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit.com always like to highlight some of these the lazy one which immediately puts teen girl squad in my head the lazy one passes along a Washington Post report via Yahoo news that head of Google fiber Milo Madine has said that paying for the right to transmit television programs is the biggest impediment to the further spread of Google fiber Madine claimed that Google it pays double what Comcast and Time Warner paid some markets who gets the licensing money well TV studios who pay to create the programs and are not very excited about seeing their business model disrupted by a bunch of nasty court killers who use Google fiber yeah get a bit ethernet yeah I think court killers are awful anybody who has a show on it it's just the worst you think that's irresponsible you're just encouraging bad behavior yeah shame on court I agree with you Lamar yeah as myself loathing on parade what time this court killer come on it'll be on Monday at Pacific cool I'll be watching it yeah good me too digs a lot submitted the business insider story that San Francisco quarterback Colin Copernick has been fined $10,000 for wearing beats headphones in a press conference they were pink beats by Dre models just so you know the NFL has an exclusive licensing agreement with Bose so that's why he got fine dr. Dre was in no way quoted as saying oops I dropped $10,000 by your locker on a accident but I'm too busy to go and pick it up Colin I you know I get I get what the NFL is doing I just it's just something about be telling them telling someone what they can and cannot wear I get that it's on TV they know both paid millions of dollars but it just it just strikes me as as a big brother I don't know well it's I I can't put my finger exactly on what bothers me about it because I actually don't have a problem with Bose going to the NFL and saying we would like to give you money in order to feature our product in your league somehow right I get that happens all the time that's called advertising that's fine whatever what I have a problem with is saying in the natural course of events you have to modify your behavior to be fake in other words obviously Colin Copernick likes pink beats by Dre headphones it's what he uses right yeah he's not for once he's not faking it he's doing he's being honest and then he gets punished for that that's what bothers me about it right I know 100% agree that's that's my issue but wait SP Sheridan points out Apple may have the last laugh or at least some kind of laugh Mac rumors reports a reliable source tells it that Apple will remove all Bose products from its retail stores starting early next week but that's okay yeah take that or Bose anyway in good Bose versus beats news the two companies agreed to settle their patent dispute out of court presumably they'll play a game of football instead the American version of course American finally TM 204 brings us the tale of a comedy club in Barcelona that has a new business model no arm no more will they rely on the classic to drink minimum no this comedy club is asking customers to pay by the laugh yeah wait what yeah you just racked up a bill there I know tae on today now club has installed tablets on the back of each seat equipped with facial recognition software that can detect when you laugh rack it up a bill there going the going rate is 30 cents per laugh up to a maximum of 24 euros and of course I was just holding back a sneeze is what everyone will take this off my bills now you're gonna have comedians up there genuinely funny people in an audience gonna be sitting there's you know what the mean look in their face stone face stone face so they don't get charged exactly right I get it like probably the two drink minimum was 24 bucks like whatever the cover was amounted to 24 bucks so they're doing this as a way to generate PR like we'll charge you by the left you don't laugh you don't pay right I get I get the promise that's not good the comedians like oh great now everybody's gonna try not to laugh to save money awesome this is an awful idea awful they should they should do it the other way they should say it's a hundred dollars if you don't every time you laugh it brings it down okay yeah every joke it was awful yeah to a minimum of $24 all right let's talk about our main discussion story today Johnny I've was speaking at the vanity fair new establishment summit because Apple is in the fashion business now at a panel called genius by design now most of the panel is Johnny I've talking about how they design in Apple he talks a little bit about Steve Jobs and Steve Jobs focus and how one-time jobs was brutally honest with him about something and it kind of hurt Johnny's feelings but he admired the focus and so there's a lot of great stuff in here but what everyone is focusing on is what he says at the end when a questioner asked him how he felt about Xiaomi the Chinese Apple I didn't mean to say that the Chinese phone company that is often compared to Apple which is why I had that Freudian slip he was quick to say that he's not speaking about Xiaomi particularly but he said I don't see it as flattery when you're doing something for the first time you don't know what's gonna work you spend a seven or eight years working on something and then it's copied I think it is really straightforward it is theft and it is lazy I don't think it is okay at all and he went on to say all those weekends I could have had at home with my lovely family but didn't but the flattery made up for it now hmm now this is this is definitely when you hear that a surface is a stark contrast to Steve Jobs is that you know you know great artist steel all the people have said that his books about about creativity there's nothing new under the sun we also said I will go nuclear on you Google for imitating us so yeah yeah so you know and then you know there's article about you know how Apple was influenced by brawn products in the 1960s so is is I've upset about somebody being inspired by their products or someone direct copy him because that's where I think people are getting confused because they're like wait a minute Apple you all are the epitome of taking from people you took from Xerox you took from you know all these all these other companies in the past sure sure and in the Steve Jobs by the Walter Isaacson wrote in 2011 there's a quote about from I've where Isaacson interviewed Johnny I've and he said he was talking about going over ideas with Steve and Steve saying which ones he liked and which ones he didn't and then here's I was quote later I will be sitting in the audience and he will be talking about it as if it was his idea I pay maniacal attention to where an idea comes from and I even keep notebooks filled with my ideas so it hurts when he takes credit for one of my designs this is obviously something that I've is very sensitive about yeah I mean I guess as the CEO up there he I don't know I just I feel like any CEO would just naturally say this is what we've done we've come up with this without naming every designer but I you get the sense that Johnny kind of wanted his his a little spotlight a little bit to be more in him I think he's being consistent I think he really is concerned with credit he doesn't like when someone takes his idea and gets credit for it which is why he was upset at Steve Jobs it's why he's upset it with Xiaomi and I did a little this is a little sleuthing it may or may not be true but if you follow the timeline if you remember because I know a lot of people are like hey what about that clock remember in iOS iOS 6 they came out with that clock and it was a ripoff of the Swiss Railway service clock how about that Johnny I wasn't responsible for that that came out September 19th 2012 in iOS 6 right it was a design from 1944 by Hans Hilfiger Apple ended up agreeing to pay a license fee on October 12th quick turnaround for Apple and something like that they didn't fight it they said yep we screwed up paying the licensing fee and then 17 days later on October 29th Scott Forstall announced he was resigning and that Johnny Ive would take over human interface design the department responsible for the clock and in iOS 7 we get a brand new clock design so if you follow the tea leaves there I'm not saying that's why Forstall left I think there's a lot more that goes I think I think maps was part of that yeah exactly but this is definitely Ive putting a stamp and going yeah that's not okay you can't you can't do that so given all this right he's mad about ripoffs of his design he's mad if someone takes credit for things that he came up with he obviously seems to have put the stamp on like no we don't take other people's designs let's let's just talk about Johnny Ive because you're right Apple has been caught mimicking design right Xerox and that whole thing uh when is it okay to be influenced by design because you mentioned this story that Gizmodo had a few years back where they're showing products from Braun in the 60s designed by Dieter Roms that are very similar to hardware designed by Johnny Ive and his team yeah I don't I see personally and just as a creator of a video I don't even compare myself to creating products but just someone who just as someone who makes something I think you can't help but be influenced because in my mind everything's kind of already been done so you you you take you look at the base and you're influenced you're naturally influenced by it and you try to make it better I think that's the core of Apple's business I mean uh even when uh the CEO was on Charlie Rose you know he said no we're not we're never first on things we look and see what other people do and then we refine it so I just think that's a natural thing that creators do I I've yet to see something that is completely completely new that hasn't been tried or thought of before yeah and and and that's that's that's the line that you've got to walk here which is how much of this because if you look at this and there's a there's a cult of mac article Elkaly's pointing out that actually lays out the pictures better but it's from a couple years after the gizmodo article so I think they just took the gizmodo article and kind of repackaged it but uh but if you look at these pictures it's striking yeah they are you know the grill on the mac pro is definitely similar to a grill on a brawn product the click wheel on the ipod is very similar to a click wheel like interface on a thermostat you know and there's even a I guess it's a television I don't know but there's something that looks exactly like a high mac like I make brawn and I wouldn't I would hesitate to say that that I've ripped them off I would say he was inspired like all artists like are inspired like you say so where do you draw the line and say well shall me isn't ripping off apple they're just looking at what apple did and being inspired the same way I have is inspired by dita roms it seems like that company purposely tries to make things that are apple like and they even allow themselves to be called the apple of china I mean they they they they agree with that so I think when you get to that point where you're you know you're you're being called a copyist and you're not denying it and your your your products are just dead on identical like you know you could make a fake apple store in china and your products and people wouldn't know the difference that I think that's where we cross the line there Len I I I know you're busy illustrating the show uh I don't want to distract you too much but you're an artist I feel like you could you could share a really good perspective on this because you borrow images in your work but you make them your own yeah where do you think it's it it's okay to say like okay that's ripping off apple but that's just an homage and inspired by well one of the things about apple is that they always try to make things that are streamlined that are easy to use that are that are human um easily used by humans uh and uh and and so when you have a team that's doing stuff like that that that's their focus simplicity is going to become the main main idea and a lot of that a lot of those ideas are just gonna are gonna overlap um you know if just because somebody comes up with with an idea that is simplistic and easy to use people going down a similar route are gonna are gonna have similar ideas now I can't speak for this this the apple of China and you know and and and how they're doing their product development but as far as I've goes I'm sure that you know if you're if you're if you're doing a design that is about simplicity and about ease of use um then you're gonna go down well you know they're gonna go down some limited paths so as far as design goes you know I don't know if it's rip off necessarily but it is pretty that brawn stuff was pretty amazing um I thought they only made coffee makers I didn't realize they made it I didn't either wait till October 16th when apple announced its new coffee maker it's a fablet slash coffee maker hmm the i bean yeah the i bean brilliant uh well thanks thanks led I did it's it's good insight and I do think that this is the same debate going on with copyright the difference is we can have this debate without affecting the economy right and so Johnny Ive can say you know I really don't like it it insults me without saying and there should be laws right uh because there is patent law and that's the end of it uh but you can do trade dress you can do design you get into copyright all of a sudden now we have laws that go the other way and and very clearly even Johnny Ive is influenced by previous design and that's the way it should be none of us should be designing in a vacuum none of us should be required to build everything from the ground up that wouldn't be good like you the the good designs come from building on what other people have done and I think Johnny Ive is trying to say is you need to take it farther you need to make it your own uh and I think that's that's what Len was saying too is is is you need to put your stamp on it not just copy uh but copyright law does the opposite it says if you even have a whiff of using anything from this within the first 120 years of its existence forget it you're against the law so without going to matter of fact I don't want to go too deep in a copy right law at all but but in general time do you think that we would be better off of those that you know patent office was never existed you know that no see patent patent and copyright are two different things I actually I should make a copy right yeah yeah uh if we I think copyright should exist absolutely okay I think it should be a much more limited term I think that the 90 years plus the life of the author is a ridiculously unnecessary amount of time and I I believe personally that what needs to be done is do some study determine the goal of copyright which I think should be to create a more innovative platform not to protect someone's business model the goal of copyright should be to make sure that creativity is fostered study the issue and find out what term of of protection seems to foster the most creativity and make it that amount now there's been some studies done that suggested like about 14 years is is the amount but some people say well wait that's way too short because of this and that I think there's more work that needs to be done around that but 90 years plus life of the author is way too long yeah that's way out of course I agree with that great discussion thank you yeah thank you thank you both uh so let's take a look at the calendar uh happy 20th birthday to cascading style sheets hawk on that you made me sorry is it your birthday too I'm 20th actually oh birthday cascading Lamar Wilson uh yeah CSS was first published as a proposal called cascading html style sheets by hawk on William Lee uh 20 years ago today and w3.org still has the proposal up if you want to take a look at it Saturday October 11th is why combinators start-up school Silicon Valley in Cupertino California Monday October 13th amazon kills off its free p2p money transfer service web pay so get your money out of there and uh money uh Monday uh money day October 13th is the dream force conference in san francisco hosted by sales force the three-day meeting features noted tech experts Hillary Rotem Clinton and Bruno Mars that yeah that's I can't even formulate that's just such an odd couple together again for the first time on film I don't think they're actually together but they are both going to be appearing our pick of the day comes from ryan officer it's called little snitch uh this is not an epithet this is a program uh ryan says if there is an app that does upload data that you wish not to be shared whether it be for privacy reasons or for security reasons and you happen to use mac os 10 little snitch is a great way to eliminate that problem all together with little snitch you can set what apps have access to the internet incoming outgoing or both and what can't I find this to be a great tool and very useful oh it's like is it like a like a zone alarm or or something like that yeah I told I remember I used to use zone alarm on my windows 98 yes me too yeah yeah that was exactly what zone alarm would do is like hey this this program wants to access the internet are you okay with that uh so you can lock it down and say really I only want the web browser access in the internet anything else I don't know what it is um if that's if that's as strict as you want to be so check it out little snitch and we'll have the link in the show notes it it's at obdev.at send your picks to us please feedback at dailytechnewshow.com and you can find my picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks finally our message of the day comes from Mike in cold and soggy UK but still the you is there you know it's not a it's not a ununited kingdom he says for once fully agree with the analysts that think pc sales dropping has slowed due to enterprises need to buy newer PCs to run Windows 7 we had that story yesterday that pc sales are not declining as fast uh he says they're finally being forced upgrade from Windows XP compared with consumer pc purchases enterprises surely the lion share of the numbers this is exactly what's happening in the big global enterprise shop I work for where we are refreshing over a third of PCs some 4000 these sort of one-off big enterprise pc purchases will drift into next year up to the end of March 2015 because these operating system upgrades are such monumental programs so some portion will also get included in next year's Gartner and idc pc sales reports but the following year the sales will probably fall off a cliff enterprise keeps these PCs generally for four to five years and won't be going through the heartache of another windows upgrade for ages this is a really good point I I think that is exactly what the issue is you know it I mean personal PCs are not selling at all really but the yeah enterprise and I worked in a school system and they're worse they they they recycle almost every seven eight years like they're really slow in a school district so but it's interesting that the enterprise is a little bit faster than them yeah and I well and I think uh I think he's right you know what he's pointing out is like they were falling they were falling and then in the united states they grew in the past three quarters right and in europe they grew last quarter so that may be a temporary thing and it may be the us enterprises were a little bit ahead on the replacement game he's in the uk so maybe he's right uh we will see q3 next year what it looks like but I can't imagine that the pc sales aren't falling into a new stability and we haven't reached that stability yet because of stuff like this that kind of cycles the numbers up and down all right well that is it uh for this episode don't forget folks I'll be doing the show from new york city next week with lots of great new york guests live and in person I'll be hosting a meet-up on wednesday if you think for some reason you heard me say a different day on a previous episode of dts that's because I did but you're also imagining it it's wednesday wednesday is the only thing I need to remember October 15th at 7 p.m at peter mcmanus cafe it's a bar in chelsea check out our show notes for the address and any other details we also posted it up on the twitter as well uh lemar wilson thank you very much twitter.com slash lemar wilson make sure to put two r's in there lemar wilson.com as well uh great stuff if you're not watching lemar's videos you're missing a good time thank you so what a great plug I'll see you to pay pal after the show no problem yeah thanks uh no you you just did uh what do you call it when you open up all the gadgets i'm blanking on all right it's called a haul a haul that's i stole it from the beauty gurus who do the makeup yeah yeah it's a gadget haul yeah i did a gadget haul and it was fun and i even opened up some some food it's nature box thing and i was going crazy i was only supposed to be like for a few seconds and then eating half the thing on camera it looked really good too parillo say you that stuff or hooked you up with them or something he told me about the company he told you about it yeah because yeah he did a sponsorship with them too yeah nice now it looked like good stuff uh but there's also gadgets lots of gadgets and there are a couple of games in there yeah and maybe even this thing that's behind me here oh yeah this uh it gets its first debut in that episode that's right as well so yeah that first game you talk about though i that was one of the first people purchases i made for ps4 and i kind of didn't oh are the last of us no not the last of us that one's awesome was a knack oh knack yeah okay into knack so i'm interested i'm gonna try to get into it maybe you'll get me back into it all right len peralta has been uh furiously working on art here and you've probably got a sneak peek into it earlier uh when he was talking if you're watching the video buying a chance what this this is looks like steve jobs but it also looks like johnny ive it's um it's steve johns the apple lead designer um and uh yeah it's this is steve steve uh you know johnny stives that donny's johnny stives that's even better i like that one um it's uh it's johnny johnny ive and uh he's wagging his finger saying and another thing all you wankers are ripping me off at the same time as he is in this picture ripping steve what was it johnny's what was it again johnny five oh john johnny stives johnny stives i'm changing that right now yes this picture is amazing i'm honored that i got i got i get uh some kind of contribution to the uh wow look at that changing it on the fly johnny stives that's better it's a better idea see uh cool that so that as usual uh len you killed it uh this is awesome so if you like a picture of johnny stives head to lenperaltastore.com yeah yeah and uh and also just you know i i try not to plug here as much as possible but i have two new things this week to talk about the first thing is uh i have a new podcast on uh tested.com jamie uh hinderman and adam savis tested.com actually it's norman wills uh uh tested.com it's a show called creature geek it's about special effects makeup uh and it's hosted by myself and frankie bellito who is a special effects makeup artist we sit and we talk about monster makeup and special effects we have got some great guests coming up so that's happening and also uh i just launched with my friend howlublin something called animation or it's it's sort of like what i'm doing here at daily tech news show only it's really really fast it's speed drawing it's art prof it's improv howlublin does a voice and i draw to it so um just go just go to my twitter feed at lenperalta you can look and there's two videos we have up right now so that's pretty exciting so much good stuff yeah thank you i love the guys that tested uh norman will are great uh and and i'm glad that you're like part of the family over there now so yeah it's i'm i'm honored uh frank and i are both honored to be a part of 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launches at the end of october so she's out there for a month so i'm going out there for a week uh just so we don't have to be apart for the entire month did she just leave yeah she left uh earlier this week okay oh wow a whole month that's yeah yeah you should head out to new york and get into that new york space the funny thing is i was thinking about doing a vacation to new york this month because i desperately need a vacation yeah you find out when the launch party is it somewhere like it's like that first couple days in november i think okay i might maybe i'll try to streamline those things that'd be awesome yeah but new york new york new york i was a little worried about the uh the place that she had got whether it was gonna handle it and then she gets in there on the first day and she's like it's got fios i'm like that's perfect good yes we're good so you are a bachelor for a month oh no i'm still actually married oh you are the state of new york does continue to recognize i don't move away from us yeah so initially california is up you know you do what you want no yes i know what you mean i think what lamar meant to say is tom has complete control of the dvr for three whole weeks yes yeah that is exactly glad i'm a bachelor there is no waiting for the voice to be done right for the next three weeks if we're talking about marital autonomy that's really what it boils yeah well if when you get back if you get if you get bored i'm around all right yeah cool we'll go do some man stuff tomorrow come over and be like let's watch the voice is america night a lot yet lamar we're talking about a very broad definition of los angeles and now tom has to come to our side of town aha interesting how about them apples yes yeah because i'm on the fringe i'm barely la we can sit down and talk about our feelings yeah that'd be awesome over a cup of green tea and some hemp bars very california wait that's venice never mind no uh our side of LA is just uh yeah we're gonna go here i'm gonna nosh that's our side of town that is not is it is it really it's gonna be my side of town all right when i get my new office never never heard of nosh nosh that means sit in a deli and eat yeah okay nosh nosh if i ever sat in a deli i mean i said i'm not noshed i i said in diners but i don't think i'm i don't think i'll sit in a has never sat in a diner in a deli all right we're gonna solve that who me who me i gotta get one of those for me oh um it's a kid uh actually he's a teenager a singer teen singer named tay brooks his family is uh real close to me and uh they they made that he's his voice and they made the music for me and the whole intro oh that's so great yeah that reminds me a little bit of uh greg benson like you know for the beginning of mediocre films yeah yeah yeah oh okay that's great benson yeah oh i i've never heard of getting maybe they ripped it off called john i get it what what's what's this greg benson's legal address if i should need it oh boy i'm gonna see some of this this next week from from greg right i'm like great we're friends greg it's me lemar it's me lemar wilson shut your sight down oh god that works for anything i love it yeah it's so catchy he's on your side tell this commercial i tell you after i captured that earlier today in all honesty i was like walking around singing it to myself but just that little bit got stuck in my head that's what my audience say they say they find themselves saying do do do do do do do lemar wilson and i say that that's what i want i want my name drilled into all these people's heads all night okay we all yeah time you gotta get one i gotta get one yeah how do you get one time merit you gotta yeah it has to happen Veronica has one no let's see let's see i just i just want that to a room yes exactly it's gotta be a motion control thing when i walk into a room or when i open my car it's rapper router yeah i want it to say Veronica Belmont well green game works so well with the rhythm of that like it's brilliant and like yours does too lemar mine has too many syllables jenny joseph's son no call it call it jenny joe jenny joe yeah jenny j wait wait did you already have one are you serious oh merit we gotta get ours does everybody have one of these no there was a there was a podcast about three or four years ago the Veronica and i were on where they did this for all their guests they made them stingers that is so cool yeah i wish i could see what the chat room was i had to dig through dropbox to find them that's why i found Veronica's first that's why i played that uh what's our title gonna be by the way well we got distracted okay call the stingers we have a three-way tie for first place which is The Snappening by bio cow yeah that's pretty good um Todd Whitehead's Beats Beats blows back right and lovely Clevelander to Laugh Minimum which i like and then i've had brawny innovations uh Joni Stives which is good uh Joni Stives is good i've had brawny innovation i don't quite get it but i really love respect my semi authority i mean i know what the reference is but yeah semi authority yeah oh uh semiconductors oh i see i see um how about don't steal my blank finds my post and i'm looking down in the uh the deep cuts here which uh drop the beats drop the beat he did he he just dropped the beat that's right all right tom that has to be part of the show now you have to yeah yeah i'm only gonna speak in these jenny jenny someone's gonna make you on by monday i promise you i'll take it the chat realm is i've got to be on it already i see yeah i want like one they will have one jenny will have one absolutely uh so i'm thinking um i'm i'm thinking i've had brawny innovations really made me laugh the most uh but i'm having a hard time deciding there's some good ones do you guys have a problem with all two laugh minimum has risen in the charts uh following snapening and beats beats both back uh in second place yeah i really like anything that can make someone say beats beats both back that is that is classic snap to my beat snap to my beat time merit time we are well done this is never going again uh if we're ever in a game show that should be our buzzing yeah darling wait do we create a game show around the buzzings are you getting the frog pants game show is gonna be beta tested at the end of october that's perfect there you go wow i like it get that genius on it we got to get that get these to ibbott um all right i bought uh do we do do does anyone want to stop me from doing i've had brawny innovations i'm eminently persuadable it's friday let's go let's do it i like it all right magic here title magic no that's not fair you got to use yours that's the problem i just want to make a show now just to use that you know i know oh man i well i'm actually you know tom get get one made and i you can use it for me on fridays oh and you got one for darin too oh yeah we need one for darin that's totally true yeah you really do need one for darin we probably should kill him for patrick bayesha too darin kitchen oh that sounds too much like lamar wilson no they all sound the same now actually someone suggested darin kitchen no someone suggested for me a death metal stinger but i think it should be for darin like darin kitchen you know yeah that's it right there that's it patrick bayesha patrick bayesha oh wow that's great yeah oh and don't forget jerry which doesn't he would he have one already apparently johnny feisty makes these yes johnny feisty would do this for sure yeah that is amazing what would just in my song gets created all of this nightmare for everybody our voices our songs are gonna be everywhere on the internet love it ringtones for everyone you know i never make them i never made that my ringtone that that we kind of totally should let me kind of arrogant wouldn't it i'm gonna make it my ringtone for when you call me or text me oh no like oh that's lamar yeah when you when you friend somebody you automatically get my ringtone so if you if if lamar say we exchange um phone numbers then i send you a file and say you must use this as my ringtone right exactly oh that's funny oh it would be justin robber young it's something like very jazz or the or the jury is in because he loves it of course yeah yeah yeah see at time i'm i'm totally gonna file for me so when you whenever you message me in any way even on this uh google hangout tom merit that's right i love it that's what i need if i'm sitting in a bathroom just that that thank you for for the telling detail no problem actually it should be the answer siri who is on the line tom merit tom merit yeah it should be a year after that yeah it should be a year after that who's who's calling tomorrow okay didn't that's a voicemail okay yeah i'll decline that call oh man this has been the best friday yes i need this now i gotta go make sloppy joes yay actually i have my notebook yeah yeah yeah it is i'm putting um i'm making onion rings and i'm putting onion rings on top oh that's delicious oh wow i've never had like that that's good i haven't either i saw it on um i saw it on the drive drives dives and dives or whatever that is literally one of my favorite shows diaries drive ins and dives yeah yeah that guy's nuts in some order some similar yeah they put the this guy made this incredible sloppy joe and then he put like um i don't think i've seen that yeah yeah so i'm doing that i'm doing that tonight dude that sounds like a joe's haven't happened for years i am flying to cleveland as we speak i've been in a plane this whole time it's just my cabin is that what the kids call it these days lying to cleveland like now everybody in the camera will say and i want sloppy joes too yeah i want happy joes sloppy joes are great sloppy joe sloppy sloppy joe oh man don't bring me back to that i love it let's let yeah what's a let's lady what what was the song was the song called luxury land land yeah yeah none lady the sloppy joe the sloppy sloppy joe yeah sloppy joe sloppy sloppy joe yeah all right you sound more like sandler than i do so you guys are gonna uh make sure to watch all four of his movies on net flex i take it i am um no i'm gonna put him on i'm gonna i'm gonna vc you're gonna dub them from that flicks to vhs yeah i'm gonna put him on vhs and then throw them in the trash kids this is the proper way to enjoy this yeah just hand your kid a big-ass laser disc here you go what is this kid but what does it in your book bag go to school that was that was the format really you know the first movie i saw on that was Terminator 2 and it looked fantastic it was uh it was playing in Best Buy and they were trying to get you they were trying to get you to buy a laser disc at the time really i wanted to get a laser disc of mash they had it they had it at the mall and i was like please let's buy it what were those uh video discs that rca put out for a while where they were actually like records no these are like in the 80s you had they played with a needle i wasn't born in i'm not sure i wasn't born in a yeah it was born in 1998 he does yeah what's 14 plus seven what's 2000 minus seven i was born in 1993 i'm 21 oh we have fun here my 20s are long gone oh my 20s haven't gone man cheers do you know what i'm saying my 20s wanted to be 30 huge mistake no the 40s are the new 20s yeah i know i keep telling myself that i got two more years i got two more years to believe it i'll be there soon yep that's 70 that's what i keep telling myself 40s are the new 20 yeah but i liked i like what you were saying on job on radio yesterday about like you're just gonna like just do stuff stop worrying just do stuff that was inspiring in all seriousness well no i'm telling you man i've done so many interviews over the past couple months and the overarching thing is that if you are doing something because either you want to make money or you want to you want to be popular or you want to be the most successful person you you will fail you should do it because you love it not because you i mean obviously you want to you want to be recognized for what you're doing of course if you're doing if you're doing something for uh like if you're writing a novel and you want that to be a new york time bestseller you'll fail that's your only reason for writing it exactly exactly so you're getting married just because you want the new york times wedding announcement you probably shouldn't get married you're exactly reassess exactly so if you want to get to age 100 so um wilfred brimley was will say hello to you hey from the grave uh oh i think that's that's fantastic motivation wait wilfred no no i'll get to the name ron Scott will have Scott oh my god i'm like wilfred brimley wilfred brimley would just bring you some fiber oh my god i cannot believe i said that are your social security payments not enough lamar i'm over brimley what did you do an oatmeal oatmeal commercial too yeah oh god yeah that's all oh my god that was what they did on the ben stiller i'm glad i don't have a chair remote but i don't i do not want to know what they're saying right now lol lamar was the first thing i saw 50s and i knew get off my well it's got uh good morning america whatever it is today yeah yeah but it's not even him now no because he's i think headed towards wilfred brimley land i don't know all right well i'm out of the post now wow we are good work done wilford brimley i probably screwed it all up i just kept thinking of wilfred brimley where did you get your captain america shield made um i didn't get it made i went to a comic bookstore here in la called uh golden apple comics it just happened to be there and they had it they had it on his shelf and i was like can i see that and he brought it down and was metal it's a it's a metal shield and it's beautiful it's pretty metal lamar yeah i don't want to you don't want to know how much i paid for it but uh yeah i uh i had to have it that's pretty great now you got to get the rest of the the costume you don't want to overweight captain america that just doesn't look it doesn't look very very very good but uh isn't uh sam wilson's playing the new captain america man you could just say you're the new sam wilson captain america i would overweight sam wilson yes i could i like to think it is overpowered okay yeah sure sure that's like the hawk right look you're just all about the base no trouble there captain america no trouble you know that song you know uh i actually that's that's the airworm i like that song yeah i have to do an audio podcast this because i love this people have been about even asking me like crazy can you do a podcast that's like i don't know how to i don't know how to get that started but one day i could i know someone who knows i know someone who knows this is fun this is fun oh yeah podcast would be great this would be like just do this this part yeah get on tech news oh yeah yeah exactly oh you know what i do need to talk to you at some point tom about possibly how to do good video uh and record for creature geek because we were going to do video but um but it just was too crazy so what we do now is just frank records on his side i record on my side we do the that thing and then we meet up and then um uh but the video obviously would be great um but i don't know i'm i'll be honest i'm not the best like my i just have a lot of clues that don't fall apart so well jenny knows maybe i'll talk to maybe jenny will figure out jenny knows jenny knows well it depends on what kind of video you want to do the problem with live internet video is that um it's gonna look like exactly like this show unless you're taping it on real film and then posting it no no no we want i mean we we want to have a video component of it that we can do um you know so so yeah so frank will record he'd have a guess there and then it would be the same sort of setup but i just don't know like i don't know if i if you you're helpful because you you're not producing you're not in the show so if i were to do it i'd be like oh are you recording you know what i mean and i would be out of the show do you know what i'm saying um i'm available for all helping things i am available to help in two weeks i'll have an office and that means i'm a professional person okay just write me an email and i will help and i will i will i will do that i have an office now you guys need um uh silver trays with those crystal uh drink uh containers and um and then little like don draper cups oh yeah yeah and then you then you have an office yeah exactly does it count when you have gloom cards all over your desk and sure i'm sure it's you know we're not gonna judge various did i show you these surrounded by gloom they show you these see i oh yeah yeah i haven't seen yeah i know no those are ripped right through this shield that's on my desk they look seriously heavy wow yeah they're not heavy they're just really really sharp and uh they can they can hurt you are you gonna have to help right you're at the end of this halloween no it's funny because these are i'm borrowing that my son is going out as wolverine but i said look i'm keeping these on my desk you're not gonna play around with these because they can hurt somebody you're like give me your candy that's a real sound yeah that's that's no those are scary wow um that's what i got in my desk but i will write you jenny because uh because we're we're doing one season of creature geek and we're just doing audio but probably over the next couple months we'll try to figure out how we want to do audio because the subject matter really kind of so in my in my capacity as that person who comes up with things for other people to do i will say that probably one of the better people to talk to about anything is todd whitehead oh okay okay i am absolutely there to help you with sort of the more what editorial production elements like how things should look and and what's a good video set up and what do you need versus what do you not this time live produce um well he has live produced uh all of the conferences that i've been to lately and he said he brings in a video element so if he's not primarily i'm not should not even if we did it you should generally speaking it is helpful to talk to todd whenever you want to embark on a venture like this and then i will help you figure out what you want it to look like that's the split um and it would probably be a good test case too for todd who's embarking into video yeah 30 seconds i have something to say about it and chat well here's the thing i'm fine i'm fine with having it look like this because i would just give this video to we would just upload it to test it and then test it would use it on their site and it would just be like a video version of the audio show right well then you can't just use google hangout i know that's what i'm thinking but i as far as production and stuff like that i just kind of i gotta figure that whole noise yeah i'd be happy to tell you what i've put together here if that helps you in any way too yeah absolutely we got some time all right thanks everybody we're stopping the video stream you've been the best and we'll see you next week