 And all I can say is the two things that have gotten me through are the passion for what I do and the persistence, that knowledge that if I just keep taking one more step toward the goal that ultimately it's going to get there. And it's overcoming negative stereotypes with superior work and superior work product. And that comes from that passion. It's anything less than 200% is something that is suboptimal. And just having that bread into your psyche, it's painful that it still exists. Being a woman is not viewed as an attribute, but rather as something that is an impediment. But it's a reality. And I think that it really does require women to pull together to support each other, both in sort of that protective shield that allows you to continue, but also in helping to sort of move through and shift the stereotypes because you have the data from a cohort that says that is not indeed reality.