 hey guys uh so we're doing this again and this is one that we've been working uh a while towards it's been my fault that we've been delayed a little bit because I went away to the island but finally jade and I are doing another conversation video and this will be the longest one yet because we took all of your guys's questions and we're really excited to answer them and jade it's really fun to be able to do this with you again um this is the closest the camera has ever been in my perspective but I knew that I was not going to be able to stand for this entire thing so I'm going to be sitting comfortably because I imagine that my legs will get numb after all right so I guess well if you want you and I can go back and forth with the questions I'll say one like we got our document here so we'll just go through it and I'll say one and if you want to say the next one we'll just go back and forth all right all right so I guess the first one here is I will uh this one's from cosner uh I want both of you all to talk about your feelings about lucifer how he was so evil serious and threatening in season five and then turned to a jokey schmuck lowlife from season 11 to 14 in my opinion what are your thoughts I have a lot of thoughts oh I was gonna say ever since you told me the line about lucifer being the herpes of supernatural I've used that in several conversations with people about it because that's that was a nail on the head describing his character um yeah it's it's the best one and I thought he was okay in season 11 I actually liked how he was much more conniving and how he got beaten really really easily uh in season 11 however that was a mistake because afterwards they tried to make him the villain in season 13 and kind of 12 and it was a bad idea because you had just seen him be beaten like so nonchalantly that you're like I understand you're trying to make this guy the villain again but we've seen him be beaten quite easily and we saw sam and neane sort of if not defeat reconcile with the entity that bitch slapped lucifer so the idea of stakes is just gone because that was something that was so big about season five right he's literally nothing worked on him everything destroyed lucifer sorry lucifer destroyed everything um I've never I don't know I I thought he became a nuisance even though mark was doing a really good job with the very limited material he had he certainly did a lot better with it than rick springfield dead rick springfield's interpretation of lucifer I thought was horrible I yeah I agree with that the president wasn't too bad I think I played the president wasn't too bad um but yeah no he yeah essentially your line he became a sexual transmitted disease by the end of the show that just wouldn't go away but they finally finally found the cure I hope anyways I just like lost connection for a moment oh did you did you hear me go like oh no I think I did a little bit all right I'm sorry about that my wi-fi is trash but like I mean yeah I agree I think lucifer's um storyline was like really repetitive because like in season five he was built up to be like you know the worst thing that could possibly ever try to like destroy the world and then season 11 and 12 come along and especially like with that whole rick springfield thing I just it's too repetitive for me to like enjoy I think Mark Pellegrino did like a great job with what he had I'll agree with you there because I like his acting I think he always does a really good he's like the og lucifer oh yeah no he's it's a trademark character for him yeah I don't I I've I feel I've always been upset with that and as much as as I like the character when he was finally destroyed in season 14 I I was very happy for that because like no please no more no more of this garbage please yeah was that I was 14 was it 14 or was it 13 I thought I was the end of 13 because Dean gets business yeah because then the whole oh the whole Michael thing but when they get see I liked having like the og Michael back that was cool yeah but the the whole alternative I can't English well the whole alternative universe Michael thing kind of I didn't really vibe with it I mean it was cool to watch and it was like I guess it was like a good like plot line for like something because obviously they have to come up with something right but they could have done a little bit better like I feel like instead of having the whole alternative universe Michael come and pull that bullshit with Dean they could have just bought him back the original Michael at that point because like we see now that he's not like a giant threat I mean he's still like a threat kind of but like he's unknown which is interesting I like that there's something that is not predictable so far this season is that like that was yeah he's just like yeah we figured out ourselves and we're going to take care of ourselves so yeah yeah but yeah I guess you want to do the next question there yeah sure so let's scroll down uh this question is from Robbanna Robbanna I always say Robbanna or Robbanna Robbanna I'm bad at talking oh it's so same I'm very very bad at at pronouncing as well I felt that all right so question for both of you if you were to write direct or produce an episode of supernatural what would it look like or be about I'd take one for team and make Destiel go cannon oh really I mean maybe it's like I actually made a video a little while ago where I like talked about Destiel for 20 minutes straight because it's like a pretty big topic well I know it's been it's been baited for like forever has a knot yeah I mean and having that it's been there's a lot of things in supernatural that suggests that like Dean isn't like fully straight so I mean having one of your main character like two of your main characters turn out to be like in a gay relationship would be like an a plus for the gays so like one point for me and then I just feel like having that representation would be really cool too but also I want it to follow the plot I don't want it to be just about that you would want it to be more than just like a you'd want it to integrate into the story rather than be like a political statement or just I would want it to not be like a fan service yeah like oh we're only doing this because everybody doing it for sake of doing it yeah no that's that and that's a good thing too because as much as I am like I'm happy to see certain aspects in film like try and be more progressive like get out was a real good example of it um there have been some films in the last little while that kind of just hammer it like the the movie's gone it's now just the message like that black Christmas remake that I saw that was one of the worst movies I've ever seen in in recent years and it's because like they even said during the production of it that they didn't have really a story they were just going for the message it's like guys it's what you kind of have to have a story yeah that's like filmmaking 101 um yeah no I would be uh I would be interested in seeing that done if it it would be a bit tricky obviously considering how supernatural has become more fanbasey but it seems now fans know no more and are better better at keeping track of the lore than the actual show writers are now yeah no I agree because like I wow okay jade can't english part two I like there's so many things that they like just forget about and drop like the retcons that what which will probably get into later based off of like the questions we have but even at like you know how big of a fan of supernatural I am but it's gotten to the point where I get annoyed at some of these goddamn retcons because it's like how do you not remember the show that you wrote oh yeah it's it's it's horrible because you have to it's not that hard like the fans that even set up the wiki like people have even said like this was like I think it was whatever happened recently that the last episode that aired they even said that um like a simple quick search on the fan wiki would have proven that what they just did was impossible yeah basically what are you talking about with dark kaya yeah I think it was it was a dark kaya I thought it was the fact that what's her name was hanging out with ruby but she hadn't fallen from heaven yet I was talking about the retcon with kaya being alive but no yeah the kaya thing too the kaya thing was like uh you you got full on speared girl yeah you did yeah because like I actually went back to watch the episode that she dies in and I I rewatched it and I'm like how you have to be like some sort of like not human to like survive getting speared all the way through your fucking like sternum like oh exactly yeah so like if they had explained maybe how she was alive like I would have taken it oh like I wouldn't have said anything about it I would have been like okay she's alive for this reason and even if it was a bad reason okay well at least they gave us a reason but they just gave us no reason they're just like oh she's alive we have to go save her like all right and like you said that's why you would have um you would make it to be a story element like a narrative edition not just oh hey we're doing this now which yeah I'm kind of like 50 50 of whether they're actually going to do that in this season but I think that they're going to do it just for sake of sake of doing it with destiel I mean I would hope that with all things like the fandom would probably go apeshit if they fucked with destiel and I think that's why they've never done it I think that they just like they're like yeah we're which is odd because what's it um super or a super girl and definitely that woman try to be progressive and I just I've worked with a few people on the set uh of both of those shows and they say that it gets a bit cringy sometimes like when like the whole recent announcement of ruby rose leaving like a bunch of them I've talked to her like yeah we called this we called it happening so um I guess if I were to do an episode this is actually an idea I had when the show was still I think this was on its third or yeah third season the only time I ever like wrote a fan fiction thingy I didn't even finish it um there was the idea of what would happen if a vampire got possessed by a demon oh that actually sounds pretty cool and yeah like how would you work in the like it's kind of like a reverse blade like both of them would have their powers but neither both of their weaknesses would be cancelled out um and it was it was like an R rated uh supernatural episode too like it was I think I had just seen 30 days of night so that's where it came from um but yeah I think that was I wouldn't be able to do a story episode like it's not the first thing that I could think of I'm thinking season one season two sort of monster of the week ideas um yeah because the only story that I really care about is being completed and that's season one to five um for now I don't know like you could do it but you'd have to shoot at night and that seems to not be what the show wants to do anymore the recent seasons have just gotten like brighter and brighter yeah no it's silk opera now yeah okay so we got the next one here from William Johnson uh did you hear that there was a possibility of supernatural past this year well that's actually quite possible now because of the whole COVID uh this uh thing Jensen has said that him and Jared won't be away too long might be something like a movie or special every other year maybe only thing is will it be worked around Jared's work on walker texas ranger now uh walker texas ranger if it's going to be anything like how they shot supernatural it'd be about six to seven months of shooting he really can't go away from that um to shoot a movie he'd have to almost be done and I don't think Jared is in the just with Jared's uh like Jared's been very vocal about his his um depression and his mental state and I don't think that anyone would want to put themselves through that because he would have to be flying from Texas up to Vancouver back and forth all the time um it wouldn't happen at the same time so yeah walker texas ranger show would definitely interfere with it also in my opinion I don't think I think once this show is done it's done the the amount of views and the amount of fans who have dropped off since the season started has even surprised me like the numbers are the lowest the show has had in years I think almost ever and the amount of like division that I've seen on the facebook page was like I used to be a very small minority of being critical of the episodes now it seems to it's not 50 50 yet but it's close it's getting closer every day it seems um like when I did a post about the show coming back in September and everyone's like what's the point like they this obviously makes sense because of the whole crisis but the show had already lost so much steam because of how badly they were airing the episodes beforehand um I don't know I think it's done I maybe comics I could see comics there's like a a shit ton of novels that I knew there was like one or two but apparently there's like almost 20 of them um there's 20 there's a bunch wait from supernatural yeah like then I was not aware of there's a bunch of them maybe I might be exaggerating but I know there's over 10 I'm pretty certain I've seen more than 10 in a row once I saw it on one of the supernatural fan pages I'm a part of um are you talking about like fan made novels no like published novels you can get from uh I guess be barns and nobles for you chapters for me well it's in to go but yeah no I got to read that and I could see comics uh maybe but I don't see the show returning in any capacity even a movie I don't see because I think they've burnt it out um like if the show is to like end where Sam and Dean like both die and everyone's dead and they come to like a good conclusion I wouldn't really want there to be a continuation of that because I'd want the story to just be over and done with but also if they leave it open ended with the season like the series finale which I don't think they're going to because the articles that I've read uh I think where Andrew Dab is like yep no it's it's done it's over um I mean I wouldn't be opposed to a movie because I'd definitely watch it obviously if it came out but I like I yeah with what you said about Jared working on Walker Texas Ranger that would definitely interfere because you know he'd be working in Texas and then also you know the man needs to see his family too exactly so and like not maybe like now but maybe in like the future I could see it maybe coming back for like a special or whatever or like a movie but it would have to be something maybe like on like related to the story but like maybe like a prologue or something like that you know what I'm talking about maybe I like that would be cool I would think the only thing I could think of is that they would do it like how CSI ended CSI ended with a TV movie that's the only but then like that ending was actually the show finale that um I don't know I I I think it's they're gonna be done like Jared I'm surprised Jared's moving on as quickly as he is um Jensen has set himself up like both of the boys are set up very well they've had very good accountants ever since the show started like they're millionaires um and that's pretty good for guys who have been on like in terms of people who have taken advantage of their show for monetary and business uh income and growth they've done exceptionally well so I I I could see them being done afterwards like I I know the cons won't end they will milk those cons till the day they all die and I'll still go maybe I'll finally have like I don't know since I haven't been able to spend money on anything maybe I'll have the money the income to go to one of these things once all this is over yeah I like I said I had to save up for like a year to go to the last con I went to I'm not gonna go to the one this year because I'm moving to Florida but I would love to go again oh yeah it just kind of sucks with the whole pandemic stuff going on yeah I've already I've already pretty much uh guaranteed that I'm not gonna be going to penny arcade expo in Seattle this year oh damn I bought mcr tickets you know oh yeah yeah oh my god I was the show that I bought tickets to hasn't gotten cancelled yet but there's a very big chance that it's going to and if I'm gonna be a little bit destroyed if it happens but it's fine because I still have the ticket I know there's a few people who are we're really looking forward to the weezer fallout boy uh blink 182 no green day green day yeah sorry yeah I would have I would die to go I had a few friends who were going to that but that got cancelled hey I guess we can go on to the next one this asks the last episode of supernatural jack got his soul back how do you think that will affect him do you think he will want to try to redeem himself do you think he will want to try to make up for the things that he did when he didn't have a soul I'm just gonna make a comment with the way that they the way that they ended the last episode um I think it ended with like jack getting his soul back and then him like crying and stuff like that like oh I didn't realize you know what I'm talking about I don't even know he didn't have a soul to be honest like the souls go back and forth like hit jet that was like reliving castiel's powers of mystery kind of I didn't I didn't know so when I saw that I was like what oh yeah because uh he had burnt his soul out back in 14 yeah my my memory is a little hazy when it comes to like what's happened recently because I haven't had a lot of time to sit down and rewatch everything oh yeah but um I'm pretty sure jack lost his soul and then he died because and then they bought him back with well no he they bought him back to life with the like witchcraft stuff oh it was not the episode where he died at the very beginning and then they were trying to be said oh that was such a bad episode I was laughing so hard jared's chopping wood in the fucking he just breaks the axe was like wow I only cried because jared had a lucky was crying oh I was I was laughing so hard as like man this is some soap opera stuff here yeah yeah but I think from then on he hasn't had a soul okay and then when he when he died in 14 14 he went to the empty because he didn't have a soul so when he got resurrected or bought back I just assumed that he didn't have a soul because he went to the empty because when he died he had gone to heaven that first time yeah yeah so I mean in terms of the question uh I do think jack is going to try to like redeem himself and I don't know like how but I think Sam and Dean obviously already kind of forgive him for you know he only he only eviscerated their mother from the face of the earth but he also did but he also did everyone a favor by getting rid of that terrible storyline angle yeah true oh and he also killed nick so that was that was pretty dope yes when I was like no no no no no no no don't bring him back don't bring him back and then he was like yes two story lines taken care of no jack's a g for that um yeah no he's done but like think of it kind of was like when sam didn't have a soul he tried to like make up for like the fact that like he was kind of like an asshole like when he didn't have a soul he was funny but he didn't he was kind of like like a dick a little bit but jack just now I don't think jack ever had bad intentions he just didn't really know any better so I don't really think there's a lot of making up oh yeah it's the fact that he killed Mary and it makes yeah yeah it makes me think of that episode where he hung out with those teenager kids and he accidentally like nearly grievously injured one by just like showing off his powers it's like man he's he's just a child and it's like that was I think at the point where I was like okay you have to try and do something different with jack because this kid thing is going to dry get dry really quickly so like when he got possessed by his corpse got possessed by the balfoth are or whoever the hell that guy was um he was great I was like oh my god this this guy actually gets to show some range other than like doughy eyed baby I personally think that I don't know I think that maybe there might be a little bit but I think that his character's development can't go any further I with how they have him jack is like his reaches peak the only thing he's going to have is whenever he's going to kill god or replace god or whatever it is I I I don't see jack really just like he didn't become him I lost interest in his character a while ago so whatever they do with him all they can do is gain my interest back in him to be honest that's valid I mean I've always liked jack I liked his character I did too until they just like kept on the same track forever I get that I I just like I'm excited to see him um like kill god hopefully you know because I I feel like then you know we've had you know as you said doughy eyed baby I like that one um but you know it yes he hasn't had a lot of development but I feel like now is like the chance to step forward from that because we have him planning to kill god and he could very well replace god and that would be like pretty cool because it'd be like from a little angel child baby to some definite development some definite growth yeah that's like pretty cool so I I think like there's there's a chance for sure that it could be I'm not holding my breath but maybe yeah all right so now we got one here from hollow man which failed supernatural spin off would you like to have seen turned into a series yeah I don't really this I think there's only one answer for this one I think it's it's wayward sisters I agree because I honestly keep forgetting that whatever the crime one I thought it was an ambitious idea it was an ambitious idea but the problem was didn't care for any of those characters yeah and then like if you're gonna spin off from a tv show you have to have characters that we've already interacted with yeah you can't just start brand new brand fresh and that's what like wayward sisters was going to be a great idea because you had Jodi who I still am amazed that has not been in 20 episodes of this entire show yeah but Jodi deserves so much more and the girl who plays uh Castiel Andy whatever his name his daughter Claire Claire yeah she was getting better she wasn't very good at first but she was getting a lot better with her talent they had a few other side characters the use of Naomi no Naomi who's the one who came back got speared again kaya kaya I think that whatever the intention was for her for that show that sounded cool kind of made me think of like an evil power ranger character sort of thing but uh I I think that was the one like I'm not surprised that it didn't because the viewership is purely like a lot of the viewership is just for the boys but if there was one that I would have rather seen would definitely have been wayward sisters yeah I agree with you like wholeheartedly on that I I was like kind of sad when wayward sisters didn't get picked up because I feel like if there was gonna be like because I know they tried with bloodlines and like we said before bloodlines it wasn't really like that great I think wayward sisters would have been really good in like showing like you it could have had like different aspects of Sam and Dean's world besides just Sam and Dean because the show usually follows just Sam and Dean and like I don't know I feel like having characters that are already established and what they built up for them too was like pretty good so yeah no I think it was going to be a good idea um it's unfortunate because dad doesn't have many of them but I thought it was going to be a decent ish like I don't think it would have lasted it definitely would not have lasted as long as supernatural I could have seen it maybe last in three seasons but the other thing too is money that would have been an expensive show in terms of like comparing to supernatural because supernatural you have two regulars and then two semi-regulars um like hell like I something that someone pointed out the other day is that Charlie Day is technically still alive no Charlie Day that's sorry Charlie in the show but she's played by the the red um forgetting the actress's name Felicia day Felicia day there we go wrong day she's alive because she came from the alternate universe but as far as you would know she you don't think that she she's not in the show but she is technically speaking so is Jim beaver yeah so it's like I don't know it's I think deserved better yeah no I definitely think so all right Elizabeth unlimited asked how will Amara and Michael slash Adam be incorporated into the rest of the season do you think we will see them soon or closer to the finale we're actually well we're actually already pretty close to the finale because what is there like seven episodes left oh wow I can't count yeah there's like seven episodes left and I mean I'd hope so because I feel like if you know you have you're dealing with God you have to deal with Amara as well because Dean also mentioned I don't remember which episode was the top of my head but he said that oh well we could like just clear the board because if you kill God and you kill Amara then there's like no like an imminent death from the entire universe so it's like yeah it's like we don't know what might not happen yeah look because I've been saying for a while that like if because what God had said earlier in season 11 was that with uh if he gets killed then like the universe gets all screwed up if Amara gets killed the universe gets all screwed up but if they're both there then the universe is balanced but if they're both gone then technically in theory the universe should also be in balance as well so I feel like with God having to die I would also include Amara and I feel like Michael could definitely aid in that but we also have Jack who is probably you know way stronger than Michael considering we saw him basically eat the soul of the alternative worlds Michael so I mean I do I do believe we'll probably see him maybe but I'm hoping on it but I can't say for sure I I will at least hope that I think they'll come in near the end if I were to guess I would say we'll see them closer to the finale just I'm not basing that on storyline I'm also basing that on Andrew Dabbs writing record yeah I think I hope that he does not shoehorn them in in the last 20 minutes like he did with season 14's finale we just still don't understand how that episode gets so much love but I I hope that they do something because Amara I really want to understand what happened to them because they went away reconciling everything like literal since the beginning of time disagreements in season 11 and then they're just kind of petty towards each other and I kind of want to know what happened there Michael Adam I would definitely like to see more of I hope he comes back in at least four maybe I'll take three maybe of the final seven episodes but again I'm not holding my breath okay so now we're gonna Tom has two here but I guess we'll just read the first one here um so this one's from Tom two the writers have said Chuck slash God the principal antagonist of the series last season which was a huge departure from the way season 11 ended Chuck willing to sacrifice himself to Amara to save the world but you know just what I said should they have done that or do they reason how do they reasonably conclude this story no goddamn clue sorry um I I I still don't agree with this twist um with the the merit that they've done they have tried to build the foundation that was never there um but too slow like you should this is what called storytelling story writing is you build it before you make it and said they've made it now they're trying to build it it's it's it's something that is it's one of the biggest things that's nip me ever about supernatural because it's essentially it's the largest retcon that they've ever done had they actually spent a good portion of season 14 building up to this like any decent writer would have done he could have even done it badly but at least he would have done something I would have taken something bad rather than nothing yeah I agree with you I I liked the last episode of season 14 where God comes in and you know causes like a mini apocalypse but also I don't agree with the fact that they literally bought that in the last episode like they like in the last 15 minutes exactly they could have definitely built up to that and had like a story that actually you know had it's like hind legs or something like that because like I like I said I agree like it it's like if you're gonna make like a big storyline for your show at least like have some development leading up to it and like I'll always you know I'll always like the show no matter what because that's just like how I am but like that that was something that kind of irked me but I did like that episode like I actually enjoyed season 14 like a lot but I like that is like honestly one of the biggest retcons because like back in season 11 God was like hey let's let's save the world let's let's uh try and uh not annihilate my sister or well she was he was kind of like let's annihilate my sister and then like let's not annihilate my sister yeah let's let's try and reconcile yeah no it was there there was development of that character right he realized oh hey maybe I don't have to follow the rules maybe I can not even follow the rules so when they brought Chuck in with this this is lunacy at the end but I think what dab might have been trying to do is trying to hit the same kind of spark that he got well that the show got when Amara was introduced because really Amara was introduced in the last two minutes of season 10 yeah and it honestly I'm amazed it worked out as well as it did but that's because you didn't know what it was you had no idea what on earth had just been released in the entire like five the first five episodes were just building up who the darkness was in season 11 yeah she got all that development and all that like oh who's this what are they gonna do but then god was just like yeah what do you mean you can't like yeah you they know snapped and it's like oh yes he's evil now okay yeah and that's the problem you can't you like you couldn't do the same thing with Chuck because he's already an established character we know who he is you can't just all of a sudden throw this at us and be like yeah that's it you guys are gonna accept it right and it's like no that's not how it should be but I did see a lot of people accept it a lot of people like oh this is the plan for the beginning I was like oh go stuff yourself this was never the plan from the beginning it's never been the plan of how Supernatural has done its entire ever since season six the show has never known whether it was going to go on for another season it's never it's always come up with its next villain in the last episode it's always done that ever since season six it has done this over and over and over again so the idea that this whole like I've ranted and raved about this so many times now um but anyways yeah I I don't know how they could reasonably conclude it anyways I mean on one hand I like can see how like out of all people that you would want to be the final protagonist of your show it would be God because he's like the biggest big bad of them all you know what I mean like I get it I just like again like I wish they built up to that you know oh yeah exactly like evil and try to destroy the world but I feel like people would probably complain about that when it comes to like I mean there would probably be a good story with it but well I I thought jack was gonna be the big bad bad by the end but guess not no speaking of big bad's actually that next question actually kind of looks a little fun yeah so tom one uh says who was your favorite big bad i.e. zazel season five lucifer season six crowley amara and who is your least favorite big bad british mental letters season 11 to season 14 lucifer season 15 chuck dick roman season 14 michael i gotta think about this one um do you have one off the top i actually know both of my answers right off the bat um well the first obviously lucifer is the best villain i will give his zazel credit though because even though he wasn't in it as much his mystery um and also his uniqueness and the actor who played him in season two i've always left a mark in my mind i liked amara amara was great but amara was basically lucifer 2.0 and seas a crowley bad i always forget crowley was a bad guy because wasn't he the main antagonist in season was it six or was it eight no eight was the trials so i don't think it was no oh wait but yeah because he was trying to shut the gates of hell and crowley's like hey i don't want you to do that yeah but then sam like grabbed him and then actually you know what if he's technically considered a big bad in season eight then i'll go with that for my favorite because season eight is my favorite and that whole church scene always um makes me die a little bit inside but like in a good way oh yeah that was a yeah actually yeah that is a yeah i remember being like wow this was like getting really freaking dark here yeah um for villains uh for worst villains it's it's a tie for me between season 14 michael um in terms of just an utter useless underdeveloped uninteresting boring character um and british men of letters for just coming at the absolute worst time in terms like just if they had been before the ultimate entity of the universe sure not right after their their threat level was absolutely nil so you had one where completely wrong placement and then you had another one that was just boring so really i would actually say michael is the worst michael is the worst villain they've ever had because even jensen ackles was just he was boring he was literally just dean but with us like weirder outfits i know jensen's never been able to do a good villain in my opinion he's he's he's done okay but jared's kicked his ass every time as a villain oh yeah no jared uh like i said before mark palagrino is like the best lucifer but like hands down second place goes to jared when it comes oh like the end episode where he was lucifer and then when he became lucifer and see at the end just the original series finale for my least favorite big bad i don't really know uh dick roman's on that list so i mean i never really liked dick roman the leviathan plot was like kind of interesting it was a cool joke it was a good joke i'm surprised how i did not get tired of dick jokes yeah so i mean that it can't really be my least favorite because i did like the dick jokes and and it did have at least some sort of plot so yeah i guess my answer is i can't think of my least favorite big bad that's not too bad yeah i i like what you're going like i like a season yeah if we are correct season eight crowdy yeah it was cool to see a friend turn into a villain yeah which is why i thought they were gonna do with jack but i miss season eight well i'm i'm looking forward to getting once i eventually get past season five and six i'll be entering territory i haven't entered since the day premiered i've never rewatched season seven eight or ten oh wow i've i've rewatched the show like a lot i just i mean recently i haven't because you know i've been working and all that stuff but whenever i rewatch my go to is like season seven and eight and nine because like i just walk like watching them and in like concession if that's the right word like everyone likes the shit on season six and seven but like oh no i i think i've even said like in the last few years like hey season six season seven i'm sorry i was so mean to you because you're no longer the worst like because at least like in season six they had like the soulless plot or was that yeah soulless sam soulless sam was pretty funny soulless sam was good and because like that actually made sense because you know sam got out of hell and then season seven was just kind of like an add-on to that because sam like got a soul back and he was all like freaked out and like screwed up because of that and then the the shield on his head on his mind too and even the last episode of season six was written by erik kripke yeah because the cure what's it uh the forgotten case of sam i remember it had a funny name the last episode of season six yeah the curious uh it was based the sam who didn't who knew too little the sam was just a little too much i think that's what it was called yeah uh i can look it up hold on i got google for a reason uh i think it was the man who knew too much yeah that was that's what it was called but yeah that's like it's a that's a good play on words for no no it's a it's a based off of a good spy movie um i don't get a lot of pop culture references oh i only i only knew it because i watched the bill murray movie the man who knew too little and i realized that was a parody of the man who knew too much all right the next one here's octu senpai have you watched the theory by raven shore who is he really how plausible how is it plausible oh crap i didn't actually watch this did you no oops okay so maybe we will i doubt erik intended chuck to be the way he is now sorry uh we'll have to watch this video maybe we can do a separate video about this but sorry we forgot to watch this video um i don't know i i don't think erik intended chuck to be this way i can answer that part of the question i think in the beginning of um when god was like when we didn't i think obviously i feel like i think even erik kripke and uh rob benedict said that um erik kripke always meant for chuck to be god because i'm really that to him yeah i was at a con i think he mentioned it who said that sorry rob benedict he the actor who plays chuck oh really yeah so erik kripke had always intended he told rob benedict like your god your character's god but i don't think erik kripke's intentions for chuck were to be bad no clearly with not how the fifth episode ended not at all okay because like the idea that he even says like because that's the isn't that the whole point and then he like yeah no that was never the point so i don't know i i'll have to watch this video we should do like a talk a bit about this one but apologies that we didn't weren't able to watch this one yet sorry otaku senpai i think he's got another question so we will answer one later all right but this oh this one's oh Jesus this one's huge do i gotta read this one um if if you want i can um could y'all discuss retcons that bother you the most uh Gabriel um also i know the show has done almost everything but is there anything supernatural hasn't touched on poorly depicted or has given enough attention to y'all wish to see including crossover is lower episode style what is your favorite whoa okay it was like eight questions yeah i'm gonna say here um what is favorite least favorite or most memorable episodes if someone who has never watched the show before asked you okay hang on all right let's let's do this this retcon first let's retcon um mine is Gabriel uh aside from chuck the chuck one is just the biggest pile of bullshit in my opinion but the Gabriel one i guess it'd be a tie between the two of those because both of those completely contradict the last episodes they were in and the last moments of what they did i literally took a giant doodoo on what their final action was so i would say those two retcons have bothered me the most because i did Gabriel one just i was like you gotta be kidding me that's one of the best deaths in the whole show and you just doodooed all over it i probably disagree with you about Gabriel i think we've discussed this before actually but um i enjoyed having Gabriel back because he's one of my favorite characters oh he's a fantastic character and like i can definitely see where the blatant fan service is with it i'm glad he came back and i'm like i can definitely tell like that's a fucking retcon and like that's wrong and if they're gonna bring him back they should have made it true to his story and then also they shouldn't have just killed him again no the the thing that irked me the most about that was like fine you bought him back with you know the retcon which like i in my mind wasn't like it didn't seem that bad because him faking his death wasn't something that is new to us but seven years later well yeah no seven years later yeah but because also god had said something when uh when in season 11 he was like oh yeah gabriel's dead and it's like if you're god you should have known that so it's like they like cemented it further and then they went back on it you know yeah but like i could have gotten over that if they hadn't killed him in exodus like that because it's just like kind of tragic for his character because he he dies for something that's like you know important and then he comes back gets revenge whatever and then dies again like exactly same way killed by one of his brothers so it like i get it i think the retcons that bother me the most are probably the i would probably mention the ones that happened recently with kaya and with um a nl and ruby because oh yeah just the last yeah before yeah like a quick google search could have explained how you know that would not have worked because an a nl came back when the angels fell and ruby died before uh like right when lucifer was let out of the um cage so that like makes absolutely no fucking sense no exactly and like when i was watching that i'm like yes i love seeing a fucking uh jennivy and daniel on screen together like i like i like that that was fun but also like it made no sense exactly so as much as i'll try to like push aside the you know the ridiculousness of that and the fact that they're writing things that technically shouldn't be happening on their show like i don't know i just wish that like they actually you know watched their own show yeah exactly but like yeah so that that's it no i get you there um or like maybe we'll just bang off these ones here these other questions what is your favorite least favorite more memorable episodes uh crossroad blues um what is and what should never be swan song hammer of the gods like i'm just gonna uh mystery spot obviously my favorite episodes of random one at season eight episode 21 but i'd also bring up season eight episode 23 because of the whole church stuff that trials that always stuck with me um most police police favorite episodes least favorite uh season seven time for a wedding i fucking hate that episode i i don't remember this episode i got it where becky i i i remember the concept of it i don't remember like hating it so much i don't even like again this is like i just hate how long ago was that was a while ago the whole reason why i hate it so much is because becky kidnapped sam and like it's just like kind of gross like this is really cringy it just rubs me the wrong way i don't like it but like that's the only episode of supernatural that like i hate with a passion like i can sit through all the bullshit and fuckery that they throw at us and the retcons and the missing their own details that they put in but that episode i will never forgive oh um baby too baby baby's very one bad episodes a lot of the ones from the recent seasons are the one where they killed hitler because i thought that was just like such a waste um there's not there's one that i haven't come across is really crappy and my reruns so far so i can't figure anything else um if someone who has never watched the show asked you before they should watch it would you review the series as a whole what would you be your disclaimers i would tell them just to watch cross cross road blues i would tell them to watch the entire thing i i've had people ask me oh yeah i would like i think i've said watch maybe like certain episodes of season one and then start watching it in full from season two because there's a lot like i think when i was doing my reruns of season one the amount of times where the previously on was the exact same thing exact same clips i think it was like 10 episodes in a row yeah no there's there's a lot um disclaimers i don't know uh it's don't get attached to anybody yeah um if and finally if season 15 hadn't uh 15 hadn't started yet how would you have written the final season i would have had empty be the villain because that's who i thought was going to be the villain written about destiny over to win i'm joking but i mean i don't know who i would personally make the big bad because like in my mind i can understand god being the big bad i just don't like the way they went about it so i mean i guess i would um instead of you know season 15 not starting yet i probably would have rewritten the last half of season 14 yes and just let it run its course yeah exactly i don't know i i can i really thought it was going to be the empty and then when it was like oh he's not you've built this character up as a somewhat evil entity entity so that's who i was the empty could have definitely been the final like protagonist of the show but i have no idea what they're up to right now besides uh when meg came back i think i cried a little bit but um i besides like that whole thing would cast dying for a little bit because apparently now you can die temporarily for and all you gotta do is just be wished hard real back it's like some pokemon the movie logic it's so funny though um but yeah i i get that because like the empty is like we don't know like a lot about the empty exactly that's why i thought it was such a great build up for a villain character and it's like oh no we're just gonna take the cheap way no i agree like that they definitely could have made the empty to big bad because i think like a while ago i thought that like oh super natural's gonna end with the empty trying to kill everybody but then like erase everything from existence turn it all into nothing yeah i also would hire eugene whoever that writer is the one who keeps on doing this terrible retcons of a fighter yeah what's her name she's i think she's a singer's wife had a fighter ass yeah also what a guy got uh do you yeah if you wanna next question is from giovanni giovanni there are five questions that he asked us let's let's try and do these like bang bang bang bang what are your top three one off characters i don't know if that necessarily means like characters that have only been like one episode or not but um i'm with andy gallagher he's pretty oh yeah andy gallagher's a good one yeah he's pretty good um what else uh i like madson from heart i yeah i like that too um the guy who adam rose plays just because i like adam rose i actually follow him on tiktok who's that who do you play adam rose plays um it's like the the hebrew stuff that they like that do you remember the episode where oh death yeah i think so wasn't it wasn't he wasn't he the the abacus i think so i'm gonna look up what his character's name was but um it's the episode where it's in the episode the one you've been waiting for and everybody hates hitler uh he owns like the big like giant dude you know what i'm talking about like uh i think so yeah he like he was just like he has like this book with um what is it he plays aron bass there we go that was his name um and he i don't know what the fuck it's called but he basically owned like this giant yeah this it was like technically like the giant that he controlled with like this tiny little book oh the the the jewish story thing yeah that's what i was talking about yeah yeah okay i like that i listen to i can't think of a third one um i would say the the demon that tortured dean in us in hell and the one that they had the alistair alistair yes he was pretty the guy who put the that dude's nose he he was all he's his whole voice he was like this evil marlon brando kind of character and i think he was one of the best one-off villains they ever had um yeah i think uh that's two uh i would say andy andy i really liked andy i was sad that andy got knocked off he was low key savage oh what's her name um i can't remember the actress's name but the the sidekick who they met in season one and they brought her back in season 13 and killed her mary missouri yes yeah yeah no i was yeah she was good yeah uh what show you that oh wow okay wow i can english i would say buffy right right off the bat what show you think could have crossed with supernatural i think charmed original buffy the small bill um i've only watched like supernatural and like bojack horseman and like umbrella academy so i don't think i have a good answer for this question i i never watched charmed charmed is definitely a cw show to the point where they literally recreated it or they rebooted it um buffy was the mass of inspiration for this show though there's a lot my girl my uh my fiance watched a bunch of uh she's watched buffy several times from beginning to end and she has said that there's a lot of similarities between buffy and supernatural um i would say that supernatural is more focused narratively than buffy but buffy had a lot of really great character building and i gotta watch buffy i've i've been told season one's rough season one is rough it's bad um season two is very good though all right i'll remember that if i ever have the time all right all right biggest story opportunities that's not just for the kid from season seven oh i think i mean the antichrist everyone keeps on mentioning the antichrist kid i was like you guys know he's he's on the show it's jack right it's jack jack is this kid instead of ring yeah technically but i mean not like technically well i i think what what was what did i say instead of bringing instead of bringing a kid to like bringing a kid on the show to be a regular character they just had an adult playing a kid as a regular character but yeah who's who's jesse though jesse was the antichrist kid from yeah okay that's that's what i thought it was but yeah but what's this kid from season seven they're talking oh the baby is that the one like they had the episode three three or two hunters in a baby where it was it was the changeling baby or the skinwalker baby i think so yeah that would be probably what he's talking about or that or i'm totally off i think i might be totally off no because season six season six was about them hunting all the monsters like the alpha vampire and everything and the alpha changeling and blah blah blah i honestly don't remember who the kid from season seven is i'm going it uh biggest story opportunities um honestly i think the show was kind of like use them all up you know i can see like side characters like there was there was the the the the gay the two gay hunters that they had oh yeah that would have been like a cool yeah are the brother and sister witch hunter team that came into that episode with the bloodlines right no no that was the one where there was the witch who used the the old granny lady who turned people into straw or whatever it was it was in season 12 or 413 uh the sister died i think and the brother went off by himself because he said he was going to try and bring a sister back or something just a drop drop storyline like dad usually does yeah i i feel like they always have like a lot of story opportunities that they don't really go into with a lot of their side characters just because their main focus is usually just sam and dean which is exactly like if they had like the spin-off like what wayward sisters they could have given those characters like so many opportunities like you said the gay couple from uh i don't know what season it was i can't remember off the top i think it was i think it was 12 or 13 yeah but like them they could have like came in contact with like jody and then like oh yeah oh yeah with sam and dean and then they could have had like a storyline and like that's probably that that would be cool fan service of lighter things of older episodes there we go biggest story opportunity making wayward sister pick up on all the stuff that was dropped yeah yeah bringing back the bloodlines thing like just coming back into that town that would have been interesting do you two feel like season 15 feels like a final season because i don't i don't um i mean i've i've never really been able to picture what the last season of supernatural would look like like i was it started up oh sorry no you keep going sorry i lost track of what i was saying but um i feel like i gotta like go well i'm sorry i wow i cannot english today holy shit it's all right um when like i found out supernatural was ending i cried like a fucking baby and like i was i was like you know sad because i was i can never really picture supernatural ending because everyone's like oh ha ha supernatural is the show that's never gonna end right yeah i know it did become a bit of an internet mean for that yeah exactly so like you constantly tell yourself oh yeah supernatural is never gonna end like what do you mean and then it's just like hey guess what we're we're okay we're not going to be on the air anymore it's like you hype yourself i had like i hyped myself up for the last season and i'm more hyped up for like the last part of the season so yeah because that's kind of how supernatural story structure is always worked right yeah because like the beginning of the season is like yeah it's like all fun and games and shit but like once you're like at the halfway point then shit starts getting real yeah well i thought it i thought at first that they were going they had started off like you know as much as i wasn't enjoying what they were doing i thought that oh wow like even though some of these things have been brought back make no sense because they're not ghosts um uh this is not a bad idea and then in the third episode oh yeah we fixed it it was like what what what i agree with that this has not been like this there's been like maybe four maybe okay maybe six episodes of this season has mattered in my opinion so far the rest has been like not like in terms of a season like even i hate to say i admitted i i but i actually watched a mojo watch mojo video and it was it was uh miss watch mojo they were rating all five all 15 seasons of supernatural which ones were like from worst to best and they started with 15 and people were like well it's not even over yet it's like honestly they're not wrong to put it here because it's not even even with what's already been said they've they've already gotten almost 75 percent of the way and it's still crap in terms of like building up for the end like i agree that like the build up for the season has been kind of like because like especially with you know the whole halted production and stuff like that oh yeah just like completely like no you know but i mean i still have hope for like the last few episodes because i'm really excited for them i'm hoping so i hope the show doesn't end badly like when you were talking about when how you felt when the show was announcing that it was over i i had a sigh of relief i was like thank you because i don't want to see this being dragged through the mud anymore like i want to see this end on a good note because like eventually down the road for like what's it like two three years from now this is going to be picked up by some like someone's going to start watching this having never seen an entire episode before and they're going to get to season five and be like okay that's pretty good and then i'm very curious to see what they say once it gets past five they're going to be like all right it's still going but why and then they're going to get to 11 and be like oh great this is another good way for them to end it's still going snack kind of reminds me of how i first started watching supernatural though uh because i started watching it on netflix and i binged watch uh i think it was i think i started watching it when season nine was on netflix it was up to season nine and season ten was on the air so when i first watched season one through five i was like wait there's more because that felt like you know the big finale the end and then it kept going and i was like oh okay and you know i how i feel about season six and seven i enjoyed them so like for me personally my first experience with supernatural was like pretty good because i had season one through five that arc and then i had six seven and eight and of course eight's my favorite fucking season and then i had nine which i enjoyed nine but like i still like eight more but i mean i've always liked the whole story with uh say i'm getting possessed by gajriel because it i mean it's it's like a good plot because in my mind honestly because it's kind of like dean has to deal with like okay do i let my brother die or do i let him get possessed by an angel and then he chooses getting possessed by an angel stakes there's been stakes yeah and the stakes were while somewhat rudimentary they were at least somewhat kind of unique from each other and now it's just the same thing again we're almost an x-men apocalypse sort of oh i actually watched x-men oh like the last one they did like i i don't know which x-men but i know it's my friend amanda made me sit through like a bunch of x-men movies um i watched like the first one with like it's a it's a very weird like good great crap shit decent really good best one being logan and then it just takes oh yeah i watched logan was really good logan's very good um yeah i don't know i i do you feel yeah i would say the season 15 has been very lacking in comparison to what it should be like yeah in terms of final seasons like someone almost made the comparison that this was like on the same level as breaking bad's final seasons like no i've never seen breaking bad so i wouldn't really know really even though the villain of that doesn't kind of make sense a season fly well it doesn't make sense it's not the strongest villain it's still a fantastic season final season fantastic final season um so what's this last one here where do you where do you think supernatural would be if eric kia kept going with writing it no he wouldn't know if he finished it yeah no i mean he would have probably ended it at season five because yeah he wanted to move on to something else and he and it still in my opinions the best ending the show could have ever had like it wasn't in the it wasn't the happiest one but i think for a show like this it couldn't have ended happy mind you i kind of wonder if he had like the sam thing because that would have been horrible that's a horrible thing to accept sam yeah no like i honestly when i first watched that i was like if he stays in this pit i'm gonna i'm gonna die because that was like a very like a really like harsh reality that would be like a really harsh like ending with i mean it would be a good ending i like like all props to eric kripke that man is a legend in my eyes and and also in terms of you you know how you talk like so there's a lot of people will say like a show ends and doesn't end well like the last episode is always kind of like a uh that one i can almost i can find no flaw with that episode except for the very very last shot being jared standing on the hill that that's that's the only thing that that like i always ended it with jared standing there and that was it then like everyone would have freaked out and been like what the fuck because oh yeah in terms of continuing oh yeah in terms of continuing the show yes it makes sense if you had ended it just before that shot perfect super sad way to end the show but like a good ending i would have been emotionally destroyed oh it that's and that's what people would remember it for oh yeah like um yeah but i would definitely say that it was supposed to end there um all right so let's see souvenir success asks just would like to hear your hopes slash predictions on what the finale might deliver what you personally would like to see also what are your favorite storylines in the series or um okay well the first one here what are your hopes i hope that it's not bad i agree with that um i i hope that whatever they're building up to in the end which i would assume would be jack killing god at this point i hope that they continue to build on that instead of like throwing in some random shit with like they always do because that's like what i i like how i can picture the show ending right now i picture like a battle between god and jack and sam and dean and cas and possibly roina and you know she's the queen of hell now yeah yeah she could like fucking she could fuck shit up now like she she made out i'm so glad roina is the queen of hell because she deserves that that that that was really funny actually i was like you know what this kind of erases the the the sadness of your death yeah but this is i'm okay with this because this is witty this is funny um yeah i just hope that it's i hope that it's not bad i hope it makes sense that's like i'm amazed i have to ask for that but i hope it makes sense it's not a it's not a freaking retcon ending yeah it just it's it ends not bad i just i don't want a dexter ending i don't want um that's the one that really comes to mind first off i just i just don't want a bad ending that does that completely contradicts the entire show all right um what's your favorite storyline from the series uh i would say i i i yeah you you've got season eight mind season three which is what i'm very excited to start reviewing that now because i got i got over i finally finished season two and i'm slowly releasing the episode the videos day by day um but uh yeah no season three is my favorite because one it was shorter because the writer strike and two the whole idea of trying to save dean from a fate that's unsavable yeah no i i i agree i liked season three a lot actually um even considering it was short they it they did a great job considering they had those episodes like they had the season cut short and then also when you compare it to other shows that came that were running during the writer strike like apparently heroes season two went just straight down the crapper after our first really good season i don't know i never watched heroes but i've just heard that it's one of the worst shows to have been affected by the writer strike yeah um i feel like also the the fact that that that season has like so many little episodes kind of adds to like the urgency of like dean's situation exactly makes that year really seem short yeah so and i remember counting down too because as we were getting closer and closer to the to may i was like shit that year's coming up yeah it gave gravitas to his his threat yeah like um i mean you for season eight um the trials like i remember it was like the dog right it started with killing a hellhound right uh yeah so the first trial was to kill it was bathing the blood of a hellhound the second trial was to rescue an innocent soul and deliver it body yeah and then uh the last trial was and that's the end of the video so far jade's phone ran out of storage space but at the same time we did not expect that it would take this long to go through these many questions but you guys have got a lot of good questions here and there's still a bunch more so we're gonna do that in a second video that was the original plan but i didn't think you would i thought it'd be like 45 minutes each but now this one um yeah we're gonna there's gonna be a lot of videos for this so stay tuned we're gonna sit down and do another video soon and uh yeah so thank you guys for your questions hope you guys are enjoying uh enjoyed our answers for this video here we're gonna get next to my god this is the least another like two hours when they're talking so we'll see anyways hope you guys enjoyed the video see you guys next time