 నారాలాపికినాతూటదింక దాతిమాంచిఆందూదిలాధరైనేతూచీతునాలిన్క Pikachu गज्भानावाज़ा आपक़िक ।। । अपर । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । and pragmatic matters as he is in inner experience and wisdom. Sadguru works tirelessly towards the physical, mental and spiritual well-being of all. He has also been conferred with the Padma Vibhushan award by the Government of India for his contribution towards spirituality. His organization, Isha Foundation, based in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu offers many tools for inner transformation. He is also the author of several books, including Inner Engineering, A Yogi's Guide to Joy, which entered the Washington Post and the New York Times best-seller list in multiple categories. So before we begin the event, we'd like to show a video on Sadguru and Isha Foundation. Also in the video, we'll be showing you glimpses of the Isha Yoga Center. Now it might interest you to know that even though Sadguru isn't trained as an engineer, he has a great interest in architecture and design. He has been promoted following across India and indeed around the world. While yoga and meditation are at the core of his teachings to promote individual growth, the work of the foundation covers conservation, education and health. And you'll find him astonishingly pragmatic on a range of very modern day problems. Let's meet Sadguru. For the very first time in the history of humanity, we have the necessary resource, we have the necessary capability, we have the necessary technology to address every human problem on the planet. Even 25 years ago we couldn't have dreamt of it. But the only thing that is missing is consciousness. Today the spotlight is on a project called Green Hands in India. We started a mass campaign and six years I spent planting trees in people's heads. That's the most difficult terrain, believe me. And now in the last six years we've been transplanting it and that's happening much more easily. Action for rural rejuvenation is mainly aimed at rejuvenating the human spirit. English and computer skills are very essential to make these children come out of the hopeless economic and social pit they are in. If you could first tell our viewers what is the idea behind initiative, insight, which is more specific towards entrepreneurs. Whatever the nature of your business, ultimately it is all about human well-being. Isha Foundation, a non-religious, non-profit public service organization headquartered in southern India. We've engineered the outside world in so many ways, but we've done nothing about this one. If you want to know well-being, in is the only way out. This is what I want to teach you too. That is, you can be completely intoxicated without any drug. Just out of life. This is a shift from wine to divine. How can you love one and hate the other when the same divine exists in all? Spiritual process is not about looking up or looking down. It is about turning inward. See the only thing that I'm really good at is just this. I can just make the air around me just crackle with energy. If you have to describe yourself in one word, would you consider wildlife as two words or one word? Yes. As one build a sacred space to a yoga center, ancient techniques have been revived to create a timeless space, one designed to stand for many millennia. The Dhyanalinga is the focal point of the yoga center, the first of its kind to be completed in thousands of years. This is the only structure of its kind in the world, 72 feet in diameter, an elliptical dome, all of brick and mud, no steel or cement. It's held up by gravity. It is simple, but very delicious. All the bricks are trying to fall down at the same time. A doorway to enlightenment, Dhyanalinga creates the possibility to experience life in its totality. At the entrance of the Dhyanalinga, one encounters the Selvadharma Pilla, embodying the essence of spirituality beyond sectarianism. A few steps away sits Nandi, relaxed yet intense, the embodiment of meditativeness. A sacred journey begins with a purifying dip. The Suryakund and Chandrakund are energized water bodies. Unique in form, they are built with massive 50 ton granite blocks. To the southeast is Linga Bhairavi, an exuberant expression of the divine feminine. Within her abode, Devi is manifested as a linga, a unique form for the mother goddess. The buildings here are standing because of perfection of geometry, not upon the strength of the material. The very forces which should bring down a building are holding them up. The entire ashram is itself a symphony of geometry and alignment. Designed and conceptualized by sub guru, the structures have been executed by the residents and brahmacharis of the ashram. Spanda Hall is a 64,000 square foot program venue. The design reflects the essence of yoga as a technology for inner engineering. The Adiyogi Alley is an 82,000 square foot hall without columns designed to offer classical yoga in its purest form. The space is tuned to align the geometry of the human system to the cosmic geometry. The alayam also hosts special cultural events. The center also houses the Isha Homeschool, a scene of conscious chaos in design and activity. It creates a vibrant ambience for learning. Cha aesthetic manifests on the other side of the globe too. Mahima, a 39,000 square foot meditation hall is the first of its kind in the west. Adiyogi Temple is a tribute to Adiyogi. The first yogi and guru, a being whose contribution to raising human consciousness is unparalleled. Dominating the 30,000 square foot space is a 21 foot likeness of Adiyogi. Designed, constructed and transported from India, it is only the first of many. This glorious space, we want this glorious space to become an inspiration to the world, to seek the highest. In India, work is already on to create 412 foot versions. Weighing 800 tons, they will stand at each corner of the subcontinent. There is no need for you to innovate anything. If you just have enough observation and perception for all the fantastic design that is everywhere in every leaf, every flower, if you just simply imitate what's in nature, it will be too phenomenal. People will think you're a genius, but you're a copycat. That's all it takes. I would now like to request Dr. Kaushal to kindly escort Sadhguru onto the stage. Now I would like to invite our director, Professor Rao, to kindly come upon the stage and present a token of our gratitude to Sadhguru. In today's event, three of our students will be in conversation with Sadhguru on the theme of youth and truth. This is the first event in this series that Sadhguru will be in conversation with students on the theme of youth and truth. I now request Ishaan, Saksham and Om Prakash to come on the stage. Ishaan is a final year dual degree computer science student. Saksham is a third year engineering physics student and Om Prakash is a final year MTech mechanical engineering student. Now I hand it over to Sadhguru and the students to begin the conversation. Namaskaram to everyone. Good evening everyone. I'd like to extend a very warm welcome to Sadhguru to IIT. It's a very rare occasion for us as an institute to have you here. So before we begin the conversation, I'd just like to put it in context. So when we got to know about Sadhguru coming to IIT, we were thinking of how would it be appropriate to be able to represent the thoughts of the community in the limited time by limited number of people. So we thought of the idea of crowdsourcing the questions. So we crowdsourced the questions to everyone and people responded with a lot of questions and we had a hard time compiling them. And so we prepared a cocktail of questions after crowdsourcing and we've tried to represent all the different themes that were asked. So just beginning with the conversation, I'd like to start with a very silly and yet existential and fundamental question. So given that we are here on this planet for a limited life, given that we are human, we'd not live forever, so what do you think is a wise way to spend the years on this planet? Can you hear me? I know what all the professors would like me to say. In the wise ways, you must be focused on your academics that's all, there's concerns, but we must look at this. All life on this planet, anything that you take, a worm, an insect, a bird, an animal, a tree, or a human being, the only thing that every life is aspiring for is it is trying to become a full-fledged life. An earthworm is trying to be a full-fledged earthworm. A grasshopper is trying to be a full-fledged grasshopper. A mango tree is trying to be a full-fledged mango tree. So is a human being. Only thing is, we know what is a full-fledged earthworm, we know what is a full-fledged grasshopper, we know what is a full-fledged everything, but we do not know what is a full-fledged human being. Doesn't matter what you do, somehow seems inadequate. No matter where you get in your life, you will see there is one more thing to do. Never does a human being come to a place where he thinks this is it. That only other people say when you're dead, this is it. So the essential nature of life, not just human life, every life is, it is longing to become a full-fledged life. So is a human being. So wherever you may be in your life right now, you want to be something more. If that something more happens, you want to be something more. If that happens, something more. You will see whatever your aspirations right now as students, suppose all of them get fulfilled within the next one year, you will immediately see you will have another aspiration. If everything that you want gets all fulfilled by tomorrow morning, you will see you will have much more things to do because the very nature of being human is such, you always want to be something more. But if you really look at it, what you want is not something more, what you want is a limitless expansion. Even if I make you the king of this planet, don't look at me hopefully. I will not make such a blunder. But suppose we make you the king of this planet, do you believe you will be fulfilled? You will look at the stars. If you have this planet in your hands, you look at the stars. If I give you one galaxy, you will look at the next galaxy. This is the nature of the human being. There is something within us which is always longing to become boundless. But in most human beings because of their fear of suffering, they think that if they desire for something and it doesn't happen, they will suffer. Because of the fear of suffering, this longing to become boundless is finding a very constipated expression. This constipated expression of longing for the boundless gets labeled as ambition. What you think is ambition is just a constipated expression for a boundless expansion that every life is longing for. But you will see in your life no matter what happens, you will see you will want something more. This somebody may label it as greed. It is not about greed because the very nature of the human being is such no matter how many pacifist philosophies you teach him, you cannot contain him. People have told you, you must be happy with what you have, whatever God has given you, that should be the right thing for you. But it's not worked for one human being on the planet. It only works either when you're very sick or very old. Otherwise, if you have little energy coursing through your body, you want to do something more. So it's not more. A human being, there is something within you which doesn't like boundaries. If I imprison you in a five by five cubicle, you will feel terribly imprisoned. Then we will liberate you tomorrow into a ten by ten cubicle. You will feel wonderful for a day, but again you will feel imprisoned. The next day we will release you into a hundred by hundred cubicle. You will feel really great, but in three days again you'll want to break that boundary. It doesn't matter where I set the boundary, the moment you become conscious of the boundary, you want to break that boundary. This is the nature of the human being. So there is something within you which does not like boundaries. So if you do not like boundaries, what should you seek? That's a question. As long as you live in the physical nature of the existence, the very nature of physicality is a defined boundary. Only because there is a defined boundary, physical is possible. We can call this a physical body because it has boundaries. If I pull out all the boundaries, this will not be physical anymore. So somewhere unconsciously every human being is wanting to touch a dimension beyond physical nature. If you touch a dimension beyond the physical nature, then we use the much maligned and corrupted word called spirituality. Spiritual means not looking up or looking down. Spiritual means your experience of life has transcended the limitations of being physical. Something more than physical is happening to you. This means you are under spiritual process. So this longing is there in every human being. So essentially what you do in your life, our activity is not about us. Activity is about the world that we live in. Today you are here in twenty-first century so you guys are in IIT. Suppose you were here five thousand years ago, where would you be? No, no. You know, five thousand years ago they were talking Mahabharata Ramayan. So you would be in one of those armies trying to shoot an arrow. You can't shoot anything. You would try to learn to fight with somebody in a sword or something else of the day. I'm saying your mind, your application, your fulfillment in activity would be all that type of activity relevant to the times. Our activity is always about the times in which we exist. It's not about us really. What times do we exist, what is most needed right now, that's what we do. But how to be is the question. If it comes to how to be, there's only one way to be. That somewhere in every human being there is a longing to expand beyond physical limitations. This is happening in four different ways. If it finds a very basic physical expression, we call this sexuality. You're trying to expand the boundaries of who you are, what you are not, you're trying to include as yourself. This is what sexuality is. If it finds an emotional expression we call this love. Once again something that is not you, you're trying to make it a part of you. If it finds a mental expression it gets labeled as ambition, greed, conquest or simply shopping. If it finds a conscious expression then we call it yoga. Yoga means not twisting your body or turning your body. Yoga means union. In some way consciously you learn how to obliterate the boundaries of your individual nature. Now your ability to experience yourself beyond your physical existence has become a living reality for you. This is everybody's longing but it finds constipated expression instead of that. If you find a conscious expression life will be very, very different. So you said that it's a very continuous journey of expansion and having this conscious expression would make it very different. But this is very easier, sad than done. Doing it is a journey altogether. So if I'm on this journey I'd have personal aspirations, I'd have spiritual aspirations. But there's also a conflict with the societal life that I live in. There are responsibilities on me from my family. There are some social foundations that I have while trying to be limitless. So how do I cope with this conflict? Or in fact I'd like to ask that is it even possible that we are able to draw a synthesis between the two? You're talking like a much married man. This is usually a diplomatic way of saying I'm married. See, we need to understand this. Though everybody is thinking they are shaping their own lives and whatever. The human longing to expand is not your doing. This is the nature of life itself. It's not something that I aspire for a spiritual process there's no such thing. Every human being is longing for expansion. Will they long for it consciously or unconsciously? That's all the choices. Anyway every human being is longing for expansion. Even the beggar on the street is looking for little expansion of his territory. Isn't it? Yes or no? So wanting to expand is not your doing or my doing. This is the nature of life. It's invested in us. Now what we are doing in the world today is just a question of the times in which we exist. Okay, we have little choices whether you want to do art, music or engineering or medicine or something like this but essentially all these activities are supposed to be for human well-being, isn't it? So fundamentally there's only one business of human well-being. Question is what is your competence? What is the nature of your you know intelligence so that how you could be most useful so you will choose that. This does not determine you doing an engineering program or a medical program or an art program should not decide the nature of who you are that only decides the nature of your activity not the nature of who you are. So continuing with this then what is the role of a guru in a person's journey? How do we as students or as people who we hear how do we find a guru and how do we know that that person who is a guru or is actually leading us to the correct path? If he confuses the hell out of you and you're still like him he's your guru. If somebody is trying to help you to find certainty in an uncertain world he's not your guru he's trying to sing a lullaby to you to understand? The nature of life is such that every moment it is changing and evolving into something else but somebody tries to create a certainty don't worry God will take care of you God is holding your hand everything will be fine they have been saying this for a long time but life has buggered people pretty badly in so many ways yes so this is not about inventing a psychological certainty and getting completely dealing from the reality of the existence the nature of the existence is such nothing can be stagnant here it is only the dynamic nature from atomic to cosmic that is keeping the existence going including the human being and every other life so a guru is not somebody who will give you so less he's a solution because the only reason why you may need him is because it's an unfamiliar terrain see every year I trek in the Himalayas in Indian part or generally now in Nepal and Tibet there is Sharpa guy who leads me on while your lungs will be in your mouth you are at 18,000 feet and your lungs is in your mouth and you are determined you are going step by step there are two roads this looks nice and easy this guy says hmm he won't say sath guru ji please this is the way no he's carrying my bags and he's illiterate but he says hmm like this without argument I follow though this looks better to me I just follow because I know he knows the terrain better than me I know the mountains very well but still I know he knows it better than me once I recognize that it is sensible to follow him if you do your own thing you won't last the same thing goes with the inner terrain when you go into a terrain that's unfamiliar to you it's best to go with somebody who's already walked the terrain otherwise to find your neighborhood you may go around the planet and come back that is also one way but it's a brief life I want to bring to a different theme why are you copying questions I just wanted to make sure I've seen people copying answers but as students a lot of us in the especially in an institute like IIT we did a survey and we found that a lot of students are under stress and we're used to a mechanism of the reward and punishment mechanism so till the time there's no sword hanging on us till the time there's no deadline we'll procrastinate and we'll wait for things to happen and that's when we do and when we talk to students they say that I think this is the way we know how to work this is the way we train and related to this many of them say that fear of failure sometimes motivates them and they say that this is essential things have to happen is that so that this is the only way we can work or because it sometimes makes us feel very restricted is there a way where we can be free of this let's understand this in a more fundamental way see when we say stress when we say anxiety when we say depression when we say misery or when we say joy when we say bliss when we say ecstasy or love all human experience comes from within you is this so all of you I'm asking for a higher opinion is this so all human experience happens from within you at least what happens from within you must happen the way you want it yes or no now you're still in a university once you step out into the larger world this is a very protected world you're living in if this you're thinking sword is hanging on your head you'll have a bomb ticking once you step out this is a very comfortable life very protected life here nothing is hanging on you okay yes you need to pass your examinations whatever there are some challenges I'm not saying no but all human experience happens from within you whatever comes from within you can I assume that you're doing it if something sweet comes out of you right now can I assume you're saying something sweet yes something nasty comes out of you can I assume you're saying it yes or is it your ego I think the ego then because this has become the way of the world people have found all kinds of fall guys spiritual fall guys and civil fall guys if they do something wonderful they say it's me if they do something nasty they say it's that Mr. Ego that guy does this if they do something wonderful in the world they say it's me something little goes wrong in their life they'll find one little guy here and say it's because of him if something big goes wrong in their life they'll find one big guy there and say it's because of him this guy is missing this guy needs to come into the play only when this guy comes into play you call that life yes when this guy plays this is called life if that guy plays I don't know what it means this guy plays this is rubbish everything that grows on in my life somebody who can't stand up to me he is responsible something big goes wrong in my life he is responsible this one is missing one who is missing how can he experience life how can he create life how can he know life so this guy has to come into play one important thing that needs to happen in the world today is we have to move from religion to responsibility we have been slinking around with life when things happen I am there somewhere somewhere no if you understand it's me who is causing anxiety to myself not my examination when I joined the institution I know there are going to be examinations isn't it what is causing anxiety is not something else my inability to handle my own thought and my own emotion isn't it if it so happened your left hand is free right now your left hand is free suppose it pops up and punches you in the face what will you do I will ask him to restrain the left hand if it doesn't work we will ask them to tie it up if it doesn't work at all if he is going to pull out your eyeballs then we may have to amputate it yes or no right now that is all you are trying to do to beat the anxiety to drown yourself in alcohol to beat the anxiety to burn yourself down with smoke what you are trying to do is amputate yourself because you don't know how to handle the potential of being human your problem is very evolutionary when I say evolutionary see do you know I mean you are all engineering students so I am asking do you know do you know the DNA difference between you and a chimpanzee is only 1.23% 1.23% is not much of a difference isn't it yes or no physiologically that is how close to a chimpanzee you are but in terms of your intelligence intellect and awareness your world support from a chimpanzee or in other words your intellect or the cerebral activities in evolutionary scale it's of recent origin it's new you still not learnt how to deal with it you have an intelligence for which you don't have a stable enough base the only and only reason you suffer either misery or anxiety or depression or whatever this may sound very cruel to you but the reality is this your own intelligence has turned against you it is like you've been given a sharp knife you don't know how to handle it every day you keep cutting yourself and you think there is something wrong with the knife no you don't have a steady hand if your intelligence worked for you 100% would you create blissfulness or misery for yourself joy or misery please choose right now I'm going to bless you for yourself you clearly know this level of pleasantness is what you want what you want for your neighbor may be debatable what you want for yourself is very very clear isn't it so you create ghosts of your own and try to fight them can I tell you a joke okay no because you're from Delhi I'm asking an Indian man probably from an IIT went to United States of course as a technology person to start with then he started dabbling with some investments then he started playing the stock market in 1996 I think four or six I'm not sure in one of those years he had a windfall in the American stock market that year he earned the highest amount of money on the US stock market which is not a small amount it's a huge sum just the previous year he was diverse timely diverse at Apprent because in California law you have to share 50% with the wife just one year ahead of this windfall the wife had left him and he wanted to spend this money upon himself so he bought himself a 1932 Ferrari for 36 million dollars he bought a Beverly Hills home for 80 million dollars then he was over 60 he wants to live long so he thought he needs a medical checkup in northern California there are medical institutions which are swankier than 7 star hotels and you can go there not some very medical checkup in one day everything 15 days you can get admitted for a fortnight and you can choose your tests unlike you you can't choose your tests you can choose what kind of tests you want to go through so the entire space was nice they appointed a very pretty looking young woman to take care of him he was enjoying the entire process on the fourth day he was feeling very relaxed in the evening and he was lying on his bed unfortunately what should happen in the toilet happened upon the bed he felt very embarrassed and he did not know how to handle this mess he was just looking how to do this just then he heard this young woman coming towards the room in America fortunately young ladies cannot walk quietly they walk talk talk talk talk so when he heard this talk talk talk he knows that she is coming he does not want this young lady to see the mess on the bed so he just gathered all the hospital white sheets and threw it out of the fifth floor window down below a regular man was going home from a party and it's such an unfair world because a man is expected to walk on a round planet and the damn thing is spinning all the time this you realize only when you have had a few few drops too many or few drops between your ears are gone so he was walking sideways and slowly finding his way home then the sheets came and covered him then he screamed and yelled and fought with the sheets it took him over two minutes to get the sheets down then the sheets got down and he was looking at the sheets dazed the security arrived hearing all this commotion they said what's all the commotion about the man said it looks like I've beaten the shit out of a ghost so it's your thought what happens in your mind is your thought isn't it it's your emotion unfortunately unfortunately our education systems from an early age have not taught you this much how to handle your thought how to handle your emotion if you did not know how to handle your hands it would be a mess isn't it this you will know if you come to Tamil Nadu you will suddenly realize Tamil people can use their fingers far better than you that is on a banana leaf you put rice and rasam you will see it will go all over the place but they won't let a drop go anywhere in two minutes it will be dry just with their fingers so everybody can get to use what they have much better than the way they are handling it right now isn't it if you knew how to handle your thought and emotion would you think anxiety is a problem would you think stress is a problem would you think such things would exist for you so essentially it is our inability to handle our own thought process our own emotions that all this is happening instead of learning to handle it we are giving labels to all our inabilities all kinds of exotic titles for ourselves no this is not the way to go about it I am telling you this is the easiest part of your life being in a protected institution like this getting the best of academics and you just have to pass an examination that's all once you step out it's another game you said that this is the easiest part of life as students but we see that a lot of youngsters fall into the clutches of stress and to cope with that they go into the addictions called drugs, porn, internet etc and they think that it will give them relief I didn't know internet was along with the drugs so how to deal with them look at me I am always stoned never been on a substance but you must understand whatever stimulants whatever stimulus you may take from outside experience of all kinds is caused only from within the question is only are you on push start or are you on self start which is better technologically self start so if I teach you suppose I teach you that you can simply sit here and be totally blissed out more stoned than anybody on the campus at the same time you are fully aware hmm would you go for it fully stoned, fully conscious would you go for it see the only problem with your alcohol drugs everything is not a moral issue it is a life issue because it destroys life it's not a morality that this is good this is bad that's not the point the point is it makes you incapable in so many ways there was a certain Israeli scientist who was researching on marijuana cannabis over eighteen years the US drug and drug administration gave him large quantities of marijuana and he went on experimenting and eighteen years time he came up with really nothing significant and during mid eighties when American agencies were fighting drug on the street they changed their policy of fighting the suppliers in Mexico and South America they decided to fight on the street with the users so they said somebody said this is not right you are giving this man such a big stock we don't know what he is doing because he has not produced anything eighteen years of research then he moved to Israel the Israeli government looked at his work and they decided to give him big stocks of marijuana and after another three and a half four years he came up with this he found that in the human brain there are millions of cannabis receptors then he threw this question to various disciplines anthropologists tried to look at it and say at some time in history maybe every human being was smoking that's why there are receptors then they said this is rubbish because in many parts of the world it was not there even a eskimo has cannabis receptors where he has never seen anything like this then various things happened then the neurologists came up with this they said always the human brain is waiting for the cannabis that which causes intoxication not waiting for it from outside it can generate from within that is why there are receptors so this is something that we have always known I can show you I am there always but you look at my eyes I am always stoned but as aware as anybody can be if you do not know intoxication in life you will never know a sense of abandon if you don't have a sense of abandon you will never walk full stride in your life you will only walk half steps all the time only when there is no fear of suffering because you are highly intoxicated and fully aware not because you consume substances which will take away your awareness simply because you are keeping the system the human mechanism at its highest function now it is fully self-sufficient blissed out all the time now you will not think of all these things I am I want you to look at this all young people I want you to look at this in your life would you like to do that which works or that which does not work hmm human intelligence is always looking for that which works isn't it that which does not work what we are interested in that which works when just wondering how far to take you you look like a nice boy this is it is just this every experience whatever happens to you right now let's look at it this way right now all of you those who are in the upper regions also do you see me even if you are not listening one of your hands and point out where I am you also you got it wrong you know I have a mistake from southern India so today you know this light is falling upon me reflecting going through your lenses inverted image in the retina you know the entire story isn't it so you see me within yourself you hear me within yourself where have you seen the whole world within yourself the way it is projected in the firmament of your mind you are not seeing the world the way it is you are seeing it the way it is projected within you a grasshopper may not be seeing the world the way you see it he is seeing it differently yes or no same world but he sees it differently because his visual apparatus are made completely different animals here some here subsonic sounds some here ultrasonic sounds we don't hear both of them yes we hear something else so we are all living in the same world but seeing and hearing things completely differently what is day for us what is light for us is darkness for some other creature what is darkness for them is light for us obviously our instruments of perception are created for our survival process and their instruments of survival are crafted for their survival process but now your intelligence is blossomed to a place where survival is not good enough you want to know the nature of life once this longing comes then you must understand the instruments of perception need to be enhanced these instruments five senses of seeing, hearing, smelling tasting and touching they are not good enough because they are only instruments of survival they are not instruments of true knowing because they show you everything in comparison when I say everything in comparison right now if you are six feet tall you stand like a tall man you walk like a tall man you think like a tall man you are a tall man you went to another society where everybody is eight feet tall you walk like a short man walk like a short man think like a short man you are a short man I am saying what you know in comparison is only good for survival process not to know the nature of life so right now everything that you know is only by comparison if I touch this I feel it's cool no that's not the reality the reality is because my body temperature is in a certain way but this is school suppose I lower my body temperature substantially and then I touch this this would be warm to me yes or no so what you are perceiving is only by comparison what you know by comparison is just a distortion of reality it is good enough for survival it is not good enough to know the nature of life now you are talking about stress and anxiety as I said every year we have been trekking in Himalayas years ago I am in a tent somewhere in Nepal and I am doing some work someone else is cutting an apple there is another person in the tent that person tells this person be careful it's a very sharp knife it irritates me because I call something a knife only if it's sharp what about you I call something as a knife only if it's really sharp yes I will call it a screwdriver I look at this and then I continue my work and another two minutes again it is said be careful it's a very sharp knife I say come on leave the man alone if it's a child yes but this is a full grown man he knows how to handle a knife not a complicated machinery said no sath guru it's a very sharp knife then I continue my work another two minutes I hear a whisper be careful it's a very sharp knife another two minutes he cuts his hand then I give up why I am saying this to you is knife is not a sharp instrument a knife is not a dangerous instrument every day in the world both in terms of kitchens and operation theaters tell me are knives saving more lives or taking more lives saving more lives in an irresponsible hand take somebody's life knife is not dangerous it is in whose hands it is what kind of hand is it which makes it dangerous knife is not a dangerous instrument yes or no only if an unsteady hand is handling if a child holds a knife we say be careful be careful because not because knife is dangerous because the hand is not steady right now this is the situation compared to every other creature on the planet your intellect is little sharper than them would you like to have a sharp intellect or dull one if you want a sharp intellect you must learn to hold it right otherwise every day you start poking this is self help you know when was the last time somebody stabbed you with a dagger when was the last time somebody stabbed you with a dagger even in Delhi it doesn't happen maybe somebody poked you with a pin at the most when you were in school or maybe they ignored you they did not even do that so what I am saying is how much suffering is actually coming from outside minuscule isn't it rest is all self help so once your intelligence turns against you believe me no force in the universe can save you so it's very important before you do anything else in your life you learn to bring your body and mind to a state where your body takes instructions from you your mind takes instructions from you they must serve you you should not be serving them otherwise you will live a very poor life very poor life because you can only live a life of some significance only when your mind and your body works for you not against you isn't it at least this much every human being should take charge of so when we I speak to my friends around here and whenever we talk about meditation or yoga this is for the old people that's not for us we are not very interested in it and one of my friends said I tried meditating and I slept so why is it that meditation and yoga is perceived as something for the old and not for the young generation and it's like we don't need this maybe because that is the kind of people they have met in the sense yoga means they saw all yogis who fell out of the calendars printed in Shivakasi you know in south India but alright they thought that means you are not interested in life that's it general thing I am doing everything possible to change this perception many things this is not for anything because you are young people I am saying something physical you learn let's say you learn to ride a dirt bike let's say you learn to do skydiving let's say you learn to fly a helicopter let's say you learn to ski do something what you may take 3 years or 5 years to learn I will do it in 3 months at this age would you like to do that at an early age or when you are dying I am asking you then you must do yoga I will tell you I got into yoga for all the wrong reasons but that is the beauty of life even for wrong reasons if you do the right thing it works I was just 11 12 years of age every summer vacation we go to our grandfather's ancestral home where in the backyard there is a well which is about 8 feet in diameter about 150 feet in depth water generally in summer will be at least 60-70 feet below the ground level so one of the sport for us young boys is to jump into this well and climb up when you jump you have to go properly otherwise your brains will become a smear on the wall and to come up there is no step, there is no foot hold nothing just holding the rock you have to climb I remember just the sheer pressure my weight I was not very heavy but still my weight on just 2 fingers 3 fingers like this my nails would bleed out of sheer pressure not injury hanging onto the rock like that with claws but I would do that and I was very proud that I am good at it one day a man who is over 70 years of age simply standing there and silently watching us we ignored him because 70 means for us he was dead not now okay perspective of life will change and that time 70 means he is gone but without a word this man who was over 72 years of age at that time he just walked to the well and jumped I thought he is finished but he came up faster than me I didn't like it then I asked how he said come do yoga like a puppy I went behind him because I found him so super human that he could do things that no young man could do so I got into yoga for all the wrong reasons see it doesn't matter how you get in which door you enter from it doesn't matter as long as you do the right things it works essentially what yoga means is this you use a cell phone what Samsung iPhone you didn't use the 7 so if you have a cell phone is it true or any gadget the more you know about it the better you can use it is it so yes or no that's what your entire engineering is about to know more about everything so that you can use it better make it better isn't it why is that not true with this more you know about this the better you can use it anyway of all the gadgets gadgets that you find on this planet is this the most sophisticated mechanism on the planet do you agree with me if you don't agree with me then something wrong with you this is the most sophisticated mechanism on the planet isn't it why is it that you have not paid attention as to see what are all the intricacies of what this is what this means is you haven't read the user's manual but you want to blender into the world so just education is becoming stress if you want to create something in the world you will see so many more challenges so education which is the simplest process of all that is becoming stress this is simply because you have not read the user's manual at all simply Samsung we don't know what will happen you must learn how to use it similarly this so if you know perfectly well how to use this then we say you are self-realized self-realized does not mean you went to heaven you know this perfectly well you know everything the range of things that this can do this is all I know in my life I know this piece of life from its origin to its ultimate people think I know everything that's their problem I know only this we cannot talk about our country India these days even in the world platforms we see that the things are improving but going to the past of India if we see the history of world civilizations we see that India particularly stands out very clearly when it comes to developing ways of this self-experiential ways of realizing this inner truth about ourselves or knowing the body and the high truths of this self-experiential ways so what do you think was it that we were able to do properly that we were able to discover these things and not just that we were not just able to discover but also proliferate them into the social ecosystem what was it that led us into this essentially a long spell of peaceful civilized life a long spell you must understand this the reason why we got this long spell is in the north we were protected by the Himalayan rangers in the south by the Indian ocean so this is Himalaya the Indian ocean that we call today as Indian ocean at that time was called as Indusagara this is why we took the identity he and do Hindu Hindu is not a religion not a belief system not a God-oriented thing it is a geographical identity unfortunately it's turned into many things today that's a different thing so we identified with these two geographical features because we realized it's only because of these features that we had an undisturbed civilization growing without any external agencies coming and disturbing us when there is a long spell we have to fight for the survival on a daily basis that is when human genius flowers in many ways human genius flower we produce the greatest mathematicians greatest astronomers greatest musicians all kinds of people and many technologies which we refuse to use simply because we foresaw if you go this way what will happen to the world various things if you look back on the glorious history of this country it is simply because which is true even today see you can build a great society or a great nation or a great world not by talking about it only by building individual human beings who are truly great without great human beings where is a great society society is just a word nation is just a word world is just a word individual human beings are the only reality what kind of people we are so the focus right from ancient times in this country was always about individual development we never see this is why the western commentators are missing the entire point they think India never had a civilization because we never spoke about it we refuse to speak about society about nation we only spoke about individual development because if you generate great individuals you will naturally have a great society a great society is a consequence it is not the cause the cause is great individuals so our focus was always on producing great human beings never on producing a great society or a nation that happened as a consequence so do you think that from ancient times till now do you think that things in India has changed so if they have so what brought us to the change we are here and how do you see this development process of great individuals how do you see that being manifested in the modern times if I may add how can these ideas it is something that I am assuming that they are not so prevalent in today's systems I am assuming that these ideas of individual development are not present in today's system no we have gotten into mass production yes so how can we actually bring them back and how should India then if I ask a larger question how should India's model of development be is it just taping the west can we bring back those elements of individual development for anything to happen you need a certain ecosystem certain economic what to say a certain economic depth you must understand this the generation that we were growing up our parents were just crazy that you must somehow get one degree and get into a government job your parents are not doing that they are thinking little more easy they are trying to explore things they want you to do a start up they want you to do a business they want you to get into sport this was never there they were just saying get a job somehow otherwise you will be on the street today there is a little more economic space where parents are looking at their children little differently still we are little compressed in the heads but little more ease than what it was 40-50 years ago I'll call you professors they were just push push get a job get a job first thing today parents are not looking like that they are looking at what can you create what can our children create what can they live how about their happiness what about our happiness okay so it needs a certain economic depth for any society to experiment to have little more freedom to do things otherwise putting them through the extruder and getting them out in some form in which they are useful this is what the society will do this is a natural consequence of 15-20 generations of extreme poverty this is this mental structure and this economic structure is a consequence of 15-20 generations of extreme poverty very bad poverty means India has suffered poverty like nobody else people may show you know pictures of Africa and stuff you must know this in Africa there have been famines there have been wars unnecessary wars and tribal wars which have caused this in small scale in India the level of malnourishment and poverty that has happened in the last two centuries is most painful no other nation on the planet has suffered as much as this country no other country has lost as many people as we have lost in the last century just for hunger and lack of nourishment even today it is true though we are much better today even today unfortunately it is true that we have the highest number of malnourished people in the country more than 60% of the rural population even today they have not grown their skeletal system has not grown to full size when they are in that state you are only thinking how to make a living you are not thinking of how to open up human genius you are not interested in all that you are not thinking how to become self realized you are only thinking how to make a living so this has happened to us because we have been an occupied nation for too long we have been ripped off in every other way there is no point blaming somebody we didn't take care of it at that time it went out of our hands but 250-300 years ago everybody wanted to come to India why? because it was the richest country on the planet we occupied a 33% space in the economic space of the planet at one time today probably we are 2 or 3% because of this extreme poverty we have a certain mindset but I think in a generation or in next 15-20 years a whole lot of people will come out of this because there is little more ease little more space to play with little more space to push it so as a part of this we are creating this space in many ways we have three types of education you know in Asia we have what is called Yishavidya which is in rural India mainly focused towards teaching English language computer sciences regular academic education at a certain level bring discipline and well-being health and well-being nourishment which is most important in the villages and get them out of the village because to get out of that economic and social pit in which they are education is just a passport for them that's one level of education another level of education we have what's called Yishavidya homeschool this is for the little more affluent people this happens inside the yoga center itself we have a huge tract of land and various facilities these schools are run in a certain way twenty children live with two dedicated house parents and everything the school itself is inside the house that's why it's called a homeschool only for playground, laboratory and libraries they go out everything is inside the house this turns out expensive an expensive way of delivering education but this is done by dedicated people as a rule we never take any trained teachers we have doctors, engineers, accountants all kinds of people, but no trained teachers because we want education to happen as an inspiration not as putting shoving down information down somebody's throat as an inspiration children should get the spark of wanting to know something there is a whole range of activity of theater, art, music, sport all kinds of things many of our, I mean two, three of our boys are now in professional football in Germany so like this they are going into various things this school gives an enormous range of things and I made this now eleventh, twelfth I made it three years not two years, three years I said one year extra because by the time they get to eleventh the whole lot of parents will get marks mad we have invested so much time in music theater and many many things now eleventh standard comes and everything is dropped and they just start doing only trying to get marks so I said three years if you want you stay otherwise no, the surprising thing is nobody wants to withdraw their children this wouldn't have happened 25 years ago everybody would have withdrawn their children now nobody wants to be not even one child wants to be withdrawn everybody wants to go through three years for two years just as an experiment I announced this everybody is taking to it the idea is see Indians wherever I go what I see is they are in the best jobs they are earning well, they are highly qualified but they can't sing they can't dance, they can't paint they can't do any damn thing except going to work really this is an unfortunate thing there is no life so so I thought we must invest enough in the children before they get into professional colleges we have to invest enough in their art, music, sport variety of interest they must explore many things there is another school which we call as isha samskriti here if any child rentals compulsorily they must stay with us as a commitment for twelve years only with that commitment we take the children here there is no academics they learn only yoga kalari paitu which is the mother of all martial arts have you seen kalari paitu kerala yes kalari paitu classical dance, classical music samskriti language and english language this is all they learn you must see this children, you won't believe they are a different set of human beings altogether here the focus is just this developing human body and human brain to its fullest without a purpose i am doing this because this is how i grew up i grew up without a purpose my father was beat his head and said what will this boy do he is not getting qualified for anything so i would say if i am not qualified for anything i can do just about everything so these children are growing up in such a way most amazing you won't believe it unless you see it i am just to tell you an experience from age of six to eighteen they are with us after that if they wish they can stay otherwise they can go out and do what they want to do there are many things that they can do which we are supporting them to do from fifteen to eighteen they become monks for three years extreme discipline and focus very serious practices so before i initiate this compulsorily they have to come out at eighteen they cannot choose to be monks they have to come out at eighteen because this we have allowed we have made them go into it as children when they become adults they must come out of it there is they cannot choose to continue so first batch i wanted to initiate now another is coming now in July the third one the first batch when i went to initiate about three years ago sixty days fifteen year old children they have been on sixty days of silence morning three thirty to eight thirty in the evening they are in some kind of yogic sathana minimum of eight hours they are keeping their eyes closed and sitting okay just another four days are left for the initiation i want to see how these boys and girls are doing fourteen of them in the first batch i went there to see morning three thirty i went and sat in the room these eight boys and six girls i went and sat in the room i went and sat in the room these eight boys and six girls were sitting there i will never forget this in my life they were just sitting there like that believe me they were literally glowing i sat there and wept because i have never seen children like this in my life i was not like this when i was fifteen for sure they are beyond anything that you can think of simply because they are focused in developing the human mechanism to its fullest not about how to earn my living this is not a question when an earthworm with one millionth of your brain can earn a living with such a big brain earning a living is such a big problem it is the most it is the grossest way to approach life is how will i earn my living everybody can earn their living the only problem comes in your life everybody else that's a problem but earning a living is not a problem if you just make what is considered survival minimal don't go on exaggerating it then you will see you have a whole lot of time and opportunity to create what you want in your life but people keep on raising the bar of survival so much that they will not get to do anything in their life except surviving in the end they don't know why they survived so i think there is a lot of curiosity in the audience also building up so unless you have some general comments to make we can open the floor to the audience you are all engineers they are disarming you we must understand this engineering means essentially to make things happen the way we want it that's engineering isn't it to engineer this building means what we want it the way we want it we could have sat under a tree but we choose to build this building because we want to sit under something engineered the way we want it are suitable for us we are conditioned the place because we want the temperature in a certain way all this we did but is it not important that you engineer this the way you want it hello outside is air conditioned inside is boiling what's the point i'm saying power is being wasted on you in the last hundred hundred fifty years with the advent of science and technology we have more comforts and conveniences than any generation ever could imagine isn't it i'm looking for a higher opinion again you have more comforts and conveniences than any generation could ever imagine we are the most comfortable generation ever physically materially but can you say are you the most peaceful generation joyful loving no or can you even say you are the most intelligent generation that will be wrong thing to say anybody who claims he is intelligent amounts to foolishness isn't it because the significance of intelligence is it shows you how many loopholes are there in your intelligence only a fool thinks there are no loopholes a truly intelligent person always sees how many loopholes in my intelligence the significance of being in a technological institute is not about just getting qualified to get some job somewhere or a passport out of the country it should become a way of creating life making life happen better than the way it's happening right now because this is a fundamental responsibility that we have as a generation of people because we occupy this space on the planet for a short brief time when the last generation gave this planet to us whichever way they gave it it's our business that when we leave it we leave it little better than the way we had it very important how better in what way better you can decide that I won't say only ecologically better but in every way better it must be better than the way we got it this means we have to engineer ourselves to fit in such a way see a well engineered machine means least amount of friction isn't it so yes a well engineered machine means what least amount of friction heavy friction means badly engineered isn't it isn't that the understanding so the fundamentals of yoga is this the fundamentals of yoga is in the geometry of physical existence if you understand the geometry human mechanism is the body is the psychological structure is the chemical processes are the energy structures are if you understand the geometry of this and become capable of observing the cosmic geometry if these two things are well aligned suddenly your life hits off like a magic your life is no more a miserable drag but it's magical simply because you've gotten the right geometry of things anything that is geometrically perfect will functions absolutely smoothly and for a very long time this is something that you must do to yourself when you're young it doesn't matter what you want to do in your life one thing must happen your body and your brain should not come in your way they must work for you yes or no hello never your body and your mind should not come in the way of who you want to be right now for most people they themselves are a big issue when you are a issue how will you address the issues in the world if you really want to address the issues in the world this one should never be a issue isn't it I am not the issue here I am never the problem if there are problems I will deal with it but I am never the problem this must happen to you isn't it please make yourself like this that you are never the problem you're always a part of the solution never a part of the problem right now right now we have developed a certain attitude in the country a whole lot of people for every solution they invent a problem so there are people who are working for problems there are people who are working for solutions young people should stand up and become a solution for future generations to come and your own life to blossom because the greatest fulfillment in one's life is that you function in such a way that you could do something which is much larger than yourself this must happen this is the highest fulfillment of activity but you are able to do something which is larger than yourself only then you will see fulfillment in activity activity is one thing but most important thing is how you are people come to me like right now you are all saying your IIT is the problem so I am inviting you to IYC isha yoga center lot of people come to me and say these are people who passed out sath guru my mother-in-law she is she is another you know from somewhere else she is and you just don't know how to live with this person and my husband after all her son my wife impossible my boss is not even human like this it goes on then I tell them see don't worry your husband wife mother-in-law boss nobody will come here you are protected like IIT your IYC also well protected nobody will come here you just come and stay I will give you a nice place to say food is good you don't have to do anything just be joyful that's all none of these tormentors are there just be joyful 24 hours you leave them in one room you must see in how many ways they twist themselves out when you are alone if you are miserable you are obviously in bad company isn't it so all the young people should do this to yourself at least with three days one week I will provide you the atmosphere otherwise you can walk into the Himalayas but there there is no food and supply you know you will have to go searching I will provide you food everything just come spend some time not with any purpose simply if you sit alone for three days no television no book no texting simply by yourself let's see what happens you must know the nature of who you are you should not go on dodging yourself and one day you will explode into something you must know what is the level of madness you are suffering when I say madness if your mind is out of your control is that called madness in definition hello if your mind does not take instructions from you which out of control is that called madness just try just today after this event just go sit quietly in your room just see what all your mind does you decide don't tell anybody you decide what is the level of madness you are going through if this if you enter the world what will you create you will only create who you are isn't it you cannot do anything other than what you are what you are is what will happen to the world around you before you step out into the world is it not important at least you are this much equipped that you are not the problem if you meet a problem and get married we will see but you are not the problem can you make this happen for yourself as young people that you are never the problem hmm you are not the issue in your life other issues if they come we will deal with it to the best of our ability but this should not be an issue isn't it this can be easily done very simple processes if you invest on 20-30 minutes a day you can bring this possibility into your life it is just that it needs a certain orientation because life is continuously outward to turn inward it needs a certain help and situation has to be created to make that happen we are very much willing to do that with you it's my wish and my blessing this must happen to every youth of this country because India, the people of India has suffered immensely I don't know to what extent all of you are exposed many of you are from good families I have walked through rural societies right from my you know early youth it's not good believe me it's just not good it's not some idyllic situation out there it is bad it's very bad in most parts of the world where we are they say they are the better of states the better of states are like that I know the Bhima Roos how they are we can't just live like this we can't just continue to live like this insulating our humanity and thinking everything is okay it's time we we have a living humanity that our heart beats for everything our heart bleeds for everything and we will do the best we can do in our lives if we do not do what we cannot do there is no problem but if we do not do what we can do we are a disastrous life isn't it it's my wish and my blessing you should not be that disaster alright so we will now begin with the audience Q&A anyone who has a question can raise his hand and we have students here who will get the mic to you where are you little closer if you can all suffering to me all suffering to you all suffering to me I am not self-heoric acid let's understand this what is disillusion I don't know how you got this that's not what's been said anywhere but little off but let me correct that see whether people are conscious of it or not conscious of it every human being knowingly or unknowingly or seeking solutions to wherever they are isn't it so or in other words the nature of human intelligence is such that wherever you are there is a problem yes this happened it's okay if I tell you a joke I know it's a serious question husband and wife who are over 70 years of age were celebrating their 45th wedding anniversary so they decided they will go through everything just the way it happened on the wedding day so wedding got over they went to the church where they got married they came out of it at the same time then as they did on that day they went to a romantic Italian movie then after that they went for a dinner in a particular restaurant they had the same kind of food and the same kind of wine and they started driving then the wife said John what's happened with you did you remember 45 years ago when we were driving how passionately you kissed me so he said okay I don't laugh you don't know what is 45 years later that's a different world okay so he tried to kiss her and unfortunately 45 years later your body is not the same and the cars are faster and boom they went into the bridge so they were at the gates of heaven then they got checked in together and because both of them were golfers they asked is there a golf course in heaven Saint Peter said yes the best the best golf course you would have ever seen so can we see they said fine they saw it was an immaculate course they asked can we tee off is there a tee time any time is tee time in heaven day or night so but we don't have our clubs no problem just for you fitted for you golden clubs so the man teed off splitting the fairway straight and long the lady walked up to the lady ladies tee and teed off again straight then they were walking towards the ball for the second shot suddenly the husband became depressed as it usually many times happens to the husbands she looked at him and said John what's the problem we're in heaven we're in the best golf course you had a great shot I had a great shot why are you so depressed he said if it was not for your stupid health food we could have come here long time ago so this is the nature of human intellect because it gets only one face of everything when you don't have a problem you're dissolved please say this because you are not a problem you're a possibility when people most people when they utter the word human they say oh I'm only a human they're always referring to the word human as a limitation as a problem very few people are saying I'm human referring to the immensity of being human because most people have not explored the immensity of what it means to be human this is why there is so much talk about heaven and God and so many things because people have failed to explore the immensity of what it means to be human if you explore the full depth and dimension of what it means to be human then you don't worry about dissolution is it true is it true that you are not born this way of this size as you are today hello slowly you accumulated how just the food that you've eaten isn't it what you accumulate can be yours you cannot say it's me isn't it hello as I'm speaking I speak up this vessel and say this is my vessel there is some problem but everybody says he is wise let us listen some more after some time I say this is me then you will say let's go now it's dangerous isn't it but this you are doing every day food appears on your plate you say this is my food you eat it and then you say this is me if you get this point today that the body that you carry is just a piece of the planet today if you get it experientially your life will change today otherwise one day you will anyway get it from the maggots but it will be a bit late so dissolution does not mean destruction dissolution means you broke the boundaries of your individuality because your individual existence is a myth that you have created you are very much individual there is a person who is sitting next to you right now so don't breathe the air that they are breathing do one thing just close your nose like this hold it like this for two minutes you know that without communication you won't last for a moment this is not just with respiration this is with every particle in this body without being in communication with the entire existence this cannot exist for a moment so dissolution is not something that you have to do if you drop the conclusions that you have made about yourself this is already dissolved modern physics is telling you this isn't it you already dissolved you don't have to dissolve it is just that you have a fancy idea in your head to get that idea out is the spiritual process spiritual process is not a real process spiritual process is just helping you to distance yourself from your physiological and psychological process so that you see life just the way it is sadguru where are you so I completely resonate with the idea of yours which you have in education and having graduated from this place and I don't know why I did engineering one year of preparation four years of b-tech two years of m-tech out of that frustration of why I am doing engineering I wanted to work in the education sector and currently I am working I feel I face many challenges to bring about a change in the system of how things are working and how children are taught it takes very it is a very slow process of how things move and how much you try that okay there should be a holistic development and this and that things boil down to okay okay do it well so I want to ask you if you can give some tips on how how you think of how education should be can be actually scaled up because there are many models which are there in some parts of the country which believe in this and I too feel that meditation can be introduced in the system of education so what do you feel how can we make this happen at a large level please sir see we are always thinking of changing the system I am not saying it should not it should but within the existing systems we can do many things depending upon the individual teachers and individual educators how they operate because when you try to change the system in your own time when you want to change the system you must understand any system even within the family the system it will take many years it is not going to change overnight sometimes a generation has to pass for it to change to walk into your house with your shoes on one generation has to pass isn't it so instead of thinking how to change the system yes we must have the vision of changing the system but within the system how to do the maximum delivery is something that all of us should always look at otherwise we are always talking about future generations without addressing the current generations it will never work that way it will only be a dream we have to make the difference in the current generation only then if you take a small step now the next generation will take a bigger step but without taking this step we are dreaming of a big step it will not happen it will be just an idea it will not work so as an educator you mentioned the word meditation we must understand this what meditation means the word meditation the English word meditation doesn't mean anything if somebody sits with their eyes closed people think they are meditating but you can sit with your eyes closed for many reasons unable to bear the world you can close your eyes yes you may be in yoga there are many things you may be doing japa, thapa, dharana, dhyana, samadhi, sunya sam samyama we don't know what you are doing so there is the word meditation is not specific it is too general and it's not saying anything in particular let us say if we are thinking to align the word meditation with what we refer to as dhyana or dhyana as you go south because hindi speaking people you have a way of clipping away the words in the end hmm we say rama you say ram say dhyanam you say dhyana you are cutting off everything in the end that's your option but if you are thinking it is dhyana or dhyana or whatever what this means is if you sit here if you sit here if you have a distinct experience that your body is here your mind is somewhere else what is you is elsewhere or in other words there is a little space between what is you and what is your body what is you and what is the content of your mind suppose this little space was achieved within you right now would all these young boys be complaining about stress you must do one thing if you are an aviator you would know this you are driving to the airport traffic jam traffic jam traffic jam you curse everybody and honk and do all this and get there then you fly then you are flying over the traffic jam it all looks very nice you know simply because of the distance when you are in it it was a terrible thing once you are flying above it it looks quite nice actually traffic jams once there is a little distance that's the end of suffering see if you create a little space between you and your body between you and your mind this is the end of suffering because there are only two kinds of sufferings in your life physical suffering mental suffering do you know any other kind of suffering only two sufferings if you distance yourself a little bit that's all distancing is not by attitude anyway these are accumulations you gathered this body you gathered this mind if you keep what belongs to you one way and what is you in another way it's taken get off so we can teach you a simple method with which you can do this very very simple process every human being is capable of this let's understand this when it comes to external realities all of us are differently capable no two human beings are equally capable when it comes to inner possibilities all of us are equally capable no human being has come better endowed than the other it is just that most human beings never look in that direction namaste sath guru i am here my name is kamal i am here with my wife my mother thank you so much for coming here we have been following your guidance for many years now it inspired us to create YIC or young India challenge where two days back we invited the youth of India from erode Bangalore, Assam to solve India's challenges and i would like to ask you that the way we are connecting this is that if people find their passion and do what they love they should be able to positively contribute to the society and solve the biggest challenge but we see that there are so many practical situation that young people face and today we are talking about youth and truth how can we do this more and wake up more and more young people that not only do they follow their passion but they must connect it to nation building and solving the biggest challenges of our time especially the youth here which is as you said privileged and how shelter and the basics are covered how can we make it more experiential that it becomes a movement that young people not only do what they love but also make a positive impact how can we do this more and get a large number of young people to get into this conversation you are the young man i am willing to speak to any young people or old people i i don't see youth as a numerical entity i think lot of young people are pretty old complaining about stress being young or old is not just of age not the question of your birthday when you were born are you an exuberant life or have you become youth means life in the making all possibilities wide open that's what youth means you not become conceited yet you should not be i am saying you have not made your conclusions about life you are still willing to look at everything fresh that's what youth means i think it's the business of every human being to stay that way all their life that you never make your conclusions you become a constant exploration and a seeking in life that you not become a conclusion conclusion should happen with death before that if you conclude then we will have to end your dead people walking around in the society who have no zest for anything but we have to bear with them that should not happen to you or to anybody isn't it so you said many things in one question about nation building about many things yes in seventy years we should have built the nation but we have made some grave mistakes for which we are paying the prize but there is no point doing post mortem and going on thinking we should have done right at that time we should do the right things now and as a nation as a culture i must tell you this i speak to variety of people to the highest level of academic scientist in various parts of the world but i still find if you take a bunch of people just like that if you catch them one hundred people on the street or Bangalore or Chennai they are much smarter than anybody who can find anywhere really i didn't mean to leave out Delhi i am saying average intelligence in this country average intellect in this country is naturally high because of a certain culturally thoughts that we have had for a long time but our problem is their human intelligence is organized to produce something here human intelligence is disorganized everybody is a genius but nothing happens you go and sit in a tea shop he will be telling you how Virat Kohli you know his bat is he is not holding it right what he should do the tea shop owner he will also say how Narendra Modi does not know this this this how he should have done this only problem is he does not know how to make good tea we must transit from this we must be a conscious application of genius not a wild application of genius it will not produce any results it will only create problems it is very important that we organize India to a productive future otherwise we will work against each other constantly see we are driving against each other all of us could easily drive with the roads that we have for the traffic that we have we could easily drive well we could easily come up with something everybody must drive minimum 60 km per hour because there are some very fast drivers some slow drivers some who don't know what is driving some who thinks they are formula one racers all kinds of people are there on the same street you know this I realized about yeah but 20 years ago when I first went to United States I am always used to putting my right foot down full on so I am hitting like 150 miles per hour people say sath guru don't do this they will handcuff you I said why the road is wide open engine is good watch my problem and I am okay so no sath guru that's not the thing see here they put 70 you have to go 70 only then I looked around then I see 82 year old woman is driving a school bus then I saw okay I can drive at any speed and keep the car on the road but now this lady who is 82 is driving a school bus maybe if I go boom like this next to her we don't know what happens to her then it took me a year to take this passion of putting my right foot down little controlled and just about the speed limit I am because I started appreciating the organization it kind of for an Indian mind it's a little difficult because what I can do I can do but what about the rest of the organization the organization has been done so that everybody can participate in it I may be good at something so I will do it in a certain way if I want to do that I must go on a racetrack you know I really want to hit 200 miles per hour I must go on a racetrack not on the road because the road is made for everybody all kinds of people are driving and most people don't have help even though they are 85 90 there are 90 year olds driving you can't drive at 100 miles per hour next to him but we can easily set this up I am just taking road as an example I think India what it lacks is too much genius and not enough organization you young people must bring that organization into this country so that this intellectual investment or intellectual you know the bank that we have the human resource that we have can become a great potential not a huge problem it can become a big problem if it is not organized so we are running a little short of time going to be the last question we will be taking please sir microphone take the microphone you must use the microphone microphone microphone is not your requirement it is my requirement thank you madam I said there is so much effort and struggle to design and shape human mind when we are out of womb is there any way you know sir to design human mind when we are inside womb that's my question inside womb who is pregnant now if you do not know this maybe in northern part of the country it's largely almost gone totally in south it's still little alive in the villages but there also it's wiped out quite a bit if you do not know this from preconception to conception to various stages of pregnancy and delivery and as long as the mother is feeding the child there is an entire established process in this country as to how a woman should eat what she should do who's kind what kind of people she should interact with what kind of form she should look at what kind of form she should not look at what kind of sound she should hear what kind of sound she should not hear all this was very much there but we must also understand life has changed today women are going to work they have to get into that horrible bus where they are pushed around it doesn't matter she is pregnant and all kinds of things all kinds of fumes all kinds of sounds all kinds of noises every kind of thing happening to her we are doing that to the child also there is no job in the country or in the world where you can take off for one and a half years and get back to the job to fulfill this in one way because of various things this is I am not passing in a judgment on this but for various reasons we are not taking the business of manufacturing the next generation of people with sufficient care we are not paying enough attention to it for which we will pay a price over a period of time we will pay an immense price for that but we are definitely not taking enough care about it in the entire world not just in this country because we have got all kinds of social situations which does not allow that space for a woman to dedicate that kind of time and attention see being pregnant is not just about reproduction we literally manufacturing the next generation of people isn't it is it not important of all the products that you produce on this planet is it not most important that we produce wonderful human beings for the future generation is it not the most important but we have created a social situation and an economic situation where there is no such possibility to take care of these things to whatever extent individual women or individual families can take care of it but for the larger society it's out of question because things have changed you can't turn it back just like that still the child is not born yet the intelligence of the body is such if you already do not know this if a woman delivers a male child the quality of the milk that she produces is in a certain way if she delivers a female child the quality of the milk is totally different if she delivers twins one male and one female one breast will ooze certain type of milk another breast will ooze another kind of milk this is the level of intelligence invested in this body we have to treat it with that much care this is revolutionary this is the finest piece of technology on the planet isn't it yes or no this is the finest thing in the entire evolutionary scale these millions of years of work that nature did to produce this but in our desperation for economic well-being I think we are not paying the kind of attention that this needs the kind of care this is a function at the highest level and can also produce human beings for the future who are of a certain kind so how to develop the brain when they are in the womb it's very important that the atmosphere in which the child is growing up is kept in a certain way at least amount of disturbance with right kind of reverberations right kind of sounds right kind of food everything today they are barely nourished they are barely nourished where is the question of right kind of vibrations right kind of atmospheres one thing we can do for this is every home if possible every working place we can have a consecrated space today slowly they are coming up with instruments which can measure the reverberations of certain objects we can create consecrated spaces or we can create consecrated objects which at least at that time she can carry upon her body so that kind of to some extent it's not the best solution to some extent it neutralizes the outside impact to whatever extent possible or if she lives in a home the place where she sleeps and other things are taken care of some amount of respite can be there for that new life which is blossoming within the womb please sir by reading ancient scriptures like Bhagavad Gita or Guru Granth Sahib we tend to become very much pure we look the world from a different perspective what is that you become pure a person becomes pure but why were they impure no why were they impure because sometimes people are very much unkind unkind unkind so we look at the world in a different way we become very much kind and we develop the tendency of forgiving people but what happens when we go to the workplace we realize that because of your this attitude because you become very much kind and you have the tendency to forgive people the other people they start using you so what should we do what should a person should do in such cases should a person stop reading such ancient scriptures like Bhagavad Gita Guru Granth Sahib or what is the right age to read such books now one thing the last part of the question that you said other people will start using you that means you are not using yourself well that there is space and time that others can use you if you are using yourself to the fullest extent nobody will have an opportunity to use you see if you are let us say you are using something 24 hours of the day where will I get time to use the same thing so 24 hours of the day every moment of your life if you are using this to the fullest extent to do whatever you want to do where is the chance for somebody to use this if you are not using it it's good at least somebody else is using it now anyway Bhagavad Gita is not about kindness Krishna is talking about war he is a very practical person when there is war needed he is trying to instigate war he sees there is no other solution so he is saying let's go to war somebody else is hesitating he is saying this is it this is the time to fight this is not the time to hesitate where is kindness in this there is simple political sense what needs to be done is being done he is only saying don't get caught up in this activity you need to do it just do it don't make too much fuss about it kindness see kindness means kindness is useful only for the fallen isn't it when you are standing on your feet do you want somebody to be kind to you hello let us say you were going to your friend's house every day they welcomed you and everything they fed you they took care of you but one day you realized they were doing it simply because they were kind to you will you feel insulted or no yes or no yes or no only when you are fallen kindness matters when you stand on your feet you don't want kindness you want acceptance, you want respect yes or no kindness is only for the sick and the dying not for young you should not ask for kindness ever do you want to pass because your professor is kind to you do you want to get a job because somebody is kind to you or because out of your competence you want to get the job you do not seek anything in this life out of kindness that will happen when you are in your death bed when you can't do anything for yourself then you expect some kindness that also if you are very capable you can handle that also you can walk to your own grave and die I can teach you that technology also yes that as you live consciously you can also die consciously it is possible for a human being to do this a whole lot of creatures do this do you know when a cobra wants to die it finds a place somewhere usually on top of a tree one branch where nobody can reach and just sits there for over twelve to fifteen days without eating and it will die there when I first noticed this I didn't figure this I thought why has this cobra become so skinny I brought it home and I pour milk into his mouth I try to make him eat and then I leave him he again goes up the tree and sits there three four times I bring him down again he goes up and sits there and after five days he is dead so when a crawly creature like a snake has this much awareness that life is coming to an end and he wants to die in a certain way human beings must have this isn't it in this culture we develop this when a human being knows his life is ebbing he withdraws he sits by himself it's called vanaprastha he goes into the jungle sits by himself slowly leaves his life this body this is a wonderful way of conducting life now till the last moment somebody is pumping it because it's an industry it doesn't matter they want to stretch you for another few hours because few hours will cost a few thousand rupees and whatever else that's different so don't as a young person don't ever look for kindness let your competence open the doors not somebody's kindness isn't it take the microphone where are you I know you don't have the microphone I can use this I want to invite one of the staff helping us organizing this event any event of this kind not possible without the help of student volunteers I would like to request the AINA volunteers to come on stage so they can give them a big round of applause all AINAs  어쨌든 整 整                                   