 We're both teachers in California, and my husband was in our city LA County and He I always like to make the joke that goat kids are a lot less likely to talk back to you So he was ready for a change and had been looking into doing something different and I actually loved teaching though. I must admit and so but I had some major health Changes and my doctors said I had to quit and I was supposed to de-stress Sometimes I laugh and think we went with a farm But a lot of times as you can see it's beautiful and serene and we moved here 2011 in February and he was in Vermont training in April by September of 2011 We had a small herd of goats that we were milking and there is the raw Milk law in the state of Arkansas that covers goat and cow. There's The other extreme where you have the USDA grade a kind of a level which is where we're at and We can make an end product and sell it a lot of people don't understand that in which between the creamery and dairy And we are both and we're a farm's Ted dairy So creameries by milk, that's why we are called White River Creamery We do buy local USDA cow milk to make our cheeses with and then we also Melt our own goats, which makes us a goat dairy and a farm's Ted goat dairy meaning we use that product through the USDA Certifications to make cheese as well Soaps and lotions are a little bit easier. We don't have to certify those but we do cow cheeses and goat cheeses and We are the only ones in Arkansas at this time doing that butter fat is such a big deal You know, you're on a dairy when they're bragging about butter fat that it has to be tested third party So our girls have tested out at 9.8 percent butter fat. So it's like cream. It's probably some of the richest milk There is in the nation also has a high protein content and a very low capricious acid So most goats are going to be about 15 percent capricious acid, but Nigerian Dwarfs are less than 1% And so their milk is really special and it makes a very unique special cheese People think we whip our chev when we get chev out there But it's just the way all of the proteins and everything Form into a cheese. That's this nice soft fluffy rich creamy cheese So since most of our cow milk that we purchased is going to be Holstein and our goat milk is that rich butter fat I always think it's funny because people lean away from goat cheese a lot of times It's like oh, I can guarantee you that our Cow cheese is tangier in the fromage than our goat cheese is in the shove It's richer and creamier, you know when we came here. It seemed like such a scary thing now I always laugh and look back because it's such a beautiful place Scott it's kind of his dream, you know He was the little kid with a tractor and now he gets to actually have his own tractor in his own farm and He has no intentions of leaving and I did have to leave teaching But it's become a great outlet to be able to educate people Farming and cheese and berries and so it's kind of a win-win for both of us and Luckily our kids have all settled down in the area They've been working on and off the farm at times as adults So Scott stream had always been for this to be a family farm You know as your kids get older and they go off with their own dreams He worried we started too late, but I tell him we've got to let them do their dreams Well, we have ours and if they coincide again and some of them come back to the farm and work for us then That's great. And if not, it's a beautiful place. We love it. We're not planning on going anywhere and You know, we love to enjoy our kids on the farm even when they're not working with us so the easiest way to Find out where to get our product is literally just to text us You know our numbers out there on every product. It's a public number. You just text 479-310-0355 And we text me what cities closest to you and I'll let you know where you can find it