 it does I'll just tell you you're a bad man just tell me as soon as possible so I can unplug it and plug it back in I will I'll see you sound to me but yes we have made me live oh my god huh oh I don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't play battlefield before the fifth one well before the fifth one I mean there's it went downhill wait for number five your opinion uh battlefield four was really great battlefield one was a downgrade but it was solid oh Alex is like a purist he would take it all the way back to like battlefront one is in the first one oh yeah you didn't like that wait wait you didn't like battlefield three battlefield bad company two or battlefield four bad company two is basically the downfall of battlefield it's where it'll again go wrong didn't ryan love that game though I'm sorry I'm sorry right right Ryan you know that I don't say that you know that I'm saying that game is not as far as I'm aware criticized typically oh well whatever you'll lose all your stock immediately because chat's probably gonna be like oh my god how could he not like this amazing game it goes to save the cold do you right like everyone calls the end of different positions a lot of you'd call it probably fear that do you ever like cool do you I can't remember uh yeah but it's are we are we talking about cold we gotta wait for everyone to pour in anyway all right all right okay sorry sorry as he's like I'm looking at the title like where does he say call a duty cat it doesn't have to say it do it god no it's not it's not it's not the itinerary I didn't sign up for this you're not robbing me into talk about video games too as if you wouldn't want to do that I know I know um keep rags out uh everyone's like where's rag is he's on a holiday it's not my fault oh yeah I probably should have mentioned that I don't know if you do carry your dog that rags would be I didn't even know that you didn't know now it's okay well told me I'm afraid he's not he's did he not tell you he told me he said he's gonna be away from Friday no Sunday till Friday as in yes two days ago till the Friday coming he either didn't tell me or he did tell me and I forgotten that boy you didn't get your postcard you're a bad person right oh well I went on holiday rags is on holiday next is gonna be mauler and then there will be no e-fap I will demand that you'll e-fap on a different channel I would never want to stand in the way of the great e-fap progress it's all right we're getting we're getting it in position so that you can do e-fap from uh you know an undisclosed location from the Philippines um oh god james more is already here james more already was to do the things happen so I gave the thing down yeah heads up for late absolutely good my good man just uh we'll do discord pms or whatever um so nerderotic to put this into perspective since you won't know the lore of james more he is a he's I'm pretty much convinced he's bill gates and he just loves this show for some reason because he has an ungodly amount of money and I see him in like literally every stream on the face of youtube giving people money and last week he bought me a nintendo switch and two games and now he wants to do it from mauler and rags too the e-fap benefactor that is good that is a good thing to have it's like he's going to give us money to do crazy shit keeping the show going I was so high the last like two nights ago playing Mario Kart and I gotta tell you like when you're high and you see all those colors it messes with your head man I was in another world does it open a gateway for you it did there were literal gateways on some of the maps I played so I was like oh I was listening to um the Joe Rogan and Alex Jones oh well Joe Rogan's podcast with Alex Jones on it and then they were talking about you know doing DMT and to open it opened up gateways and that and I was like oh my god this is too much it doesn't matter what your politics are that podcast is hilarious so insane I loved it the only slight regret I have for being sober is I don't do acid during these days so I can play video games and the movies are better than ever I did acid once and it was not a good experience I don't think I've ever no I've never had a bad trip but I've had many many back in the 80s but you got to make sure you're around like good friends people you trust and yeah after you fry for about eight hours and then you feel like shite afterwards you feel like you've known for 10 years you ever watched Alien on it it's a really bad experience I watched Alien Jesus I watched Aliens it's a horrible experience it's terrifying what do you prefer Ned Rotic alien or aliens aliens ah I feel like they're rare people who prefer aliens to alien I'm one of those people we apparently have a very similar taste in a lot of things except for the expanse but well you know not everything which is actually a good way to say uh hello everyone this is e-fap 39 we nearly to four oh and then well if you got some special plan for five oh right a sure yep there we go good great uh so yeah three nine we are now a special guest is not rags he's not here today that's that's the the big shame of it he's on some form of a holiday slash breakaway but he should be on the next episode which I think will be Sunday I don't know because we had to delay this one uh for uh because I was struck by lightning and that sort of thing can even bring me down I'm I'm afraid and I needed a day to recuperate and uh set everything back up but yes our guest today is mr gary from Ned Rotic um how do you do I I do well I do very well this morning well morning here I don't know about you guys but a little groggy in the evening already uh but no everything's fantastic happy to be here ready to defend the expanse and crap under the things and uh yeah generally be here for a very long time I drink my tea and my coffee I'm ready to go you don't get coffee together yes why not I did tea that I did coffee ah okay you're one of those people yes the undesirables I mean it's like the undesirable America plus Britain and we got two and two today so it makes complete sense uh it's even the odds yeah there's like some things in my throat that's annoying either way this is wonderful we're gonna talk about all kinds of films and tv shows and possibly watch some videos I don't know um the last thief app we mentioned that me and wolf had watched one episode of um Kear Noble it was uh pretty good we watched the rest of it and we recommend everyone go watch it it's it's terrifying as much as it is amazing it's unbelievably good the um yeah it's like uh I was saying to um wolf it kind of goes in the same category as Band of Brothers where it's like this one-off series that's made with incredible fictions of characters and a story and then plenty of um action that's actually kind of like amazing for a tv show but um and it's also really informative holy shit they'll uh they try and have scenes that integrate with the storyline that are actually straight up just lessons like how does a nuclear plant work why did it fall apart all the elements that were brought together that created this disaster it's like actually really interesting but then they also show in detail what radiation can do to you which is uh less than fun but it did get a little retarded when it was like the baby absorbed the radiations like that doesn't happen um yeah I'd have to get a scientist to explain how that works if that works that way whatsoever I would give the whole show 3.6 out of 15 000 not great but not terrible oh yeah that's pretty good no show's gone that high before yeah um but yes as is tradition mr gary you're gonna have to answer a question that everyone gets asked when they come on here we're gonna have to replace this question once episode nine comes out with something equally as stupid but uh who do you think in episode nine will be the most inconsistent character as in the one that's written you know completely opposite to what they probably should or were to be aware yeah um oh we've got three disqualifications you cannot choose kylo because he's never made any sense whatsoever that's not fair uh you can't choose lando because they're obviously gonna ruin lando and that's just no it's not interesting to choose him so uh and palpatine because nobody fucking knew palpatine was gonna be in the film will be made this thing so it would also be is he really gonna be in the film as a person oh well i'm assuming he's gonna be some kind of fucking recording but they could still screw him up oh god yes imagine if they said like lord vader was only the first phase of my plan also he's like oh god no he's like this whole time it was you kylo you were you were always what i was preparing it's like please please please don't do this but yeah uh so your choice is a literally anyone or anything else you could you could choose even like a blast uh you know they ruined the millennium falcon so like literally everything on the table they did uh well i i have a tendency to want to say ray but they've never written her as anything other than like this block of wood that does everything awesome so say uh uh fin they might try to actually give him a storyline instead of making him a clown and it'll still make him look like a clown but uh they'll try to probably badass him up a little bit because there's been a lot of criticism of uh taking the one african-american character and making him uh the butt of jokes so i think and hollywood has been showing that they uh they listen to criticism and they take it uh not seriously but they actually get a little butt hurt about it so and they respond within the narrative and it's usually too hilarious uh results so yes fin i think fin will will do a flip of character and they'll try to make him a heroic or something so fin is i could be completely wrong i mean it's funny because that's my that was my vote as well he's the most popular vote we've got two three four five six seven eight people have voted for fin now oh right on and then poe is second up actually it's poe and luke is second up they're drawing right well i'm going to laugh so hard if rose is just not in the movie and she's never mentioned whatsoever like she's just not there it is like yeah only hope nobody's even though she could very well you know they could make her into like a completely amazing character whatever i don't know it'll be horrible whatever they decide to do um i saw i saw a comment swing by that said uh shinobal is not accurate even a little bit it's just entertainment it's not accurate at all i doubt that it's not accurate at all i'm sure that there's a lot of elements to it that are informative even on a general sense but i doubt yeah i doubt it's it's something you should take as like gospel about radiation or nuclear plants i'm not saying that it's just interesting apparently one of the the female characters and amalgamation of like yeah they point that out at the end of the show yeah they have a lot of like concessions about what the production was and a couple of things that maybe weren't all we're accurate more so less so the very good experience regardless and i would recommend it um but yeah we haven't hadn't talked about it at all really outside of casual things but we've got four people here who've seen dark phoenix so it probably makes sense to actually talk about it to to at least a little bit of a degree it's gone down now is is it the only x-men film to flop or is it the only x-men film to do this badly anyone know i don't know it's the worst performing x-men film yeah and some of not all of them have performed well uh but yeah where's like the spin-off films like the individual ones so like like the one uh wolverine origins that's a good question didn't that one's like that film do well or did it not i can't remember i know it was bad i just mean did it make money yeah yeah well that's what we're talking about right now anyway your voice has gone to me there alex oh for fuck's sake i was wondering why he sounded like Darth Vader for a second i don't know what it is but the microphone randomly makes his voice drown all the way down what was happening it's a clean install of windows it's nothing i'm doing with the sentence i think it was like was the void of hell literally swallowing you at that moment like he talks like this and then he goes like this and it's like acid never truly leaves your body so we could all just be flashed i don't say that i thought that um but yeah either way it's being heralded as the worst thing in the x-men series now just the four of the four people here does anyone think it is the worst out of all the x-men films i don't think it's the worst but it's really close i god i got to get the x-men films that i would actually remember them all this is the thing i can't remember the wolverine very well i did watch it origins was hilarious i'm pretty sure that still takes the cake for worst it's between that one and apocalypse for me apocalypse was hilarious uh i know it's crazy because a lot of people love apocalypse when i remember it being released and i i was mainly just laughing at most of it especially the um it's you know the whole like it was it was old then and they do it again in this new film the whole magneto is off somewhere doing his thing and then someone annoys him and brings him in and he becomes the villain like that seems to be his plotline for basically every of the new well the new time i say the new timeline is the same fucking the shit for the old one too yeah we're talking all day about fucking which continuity we're talking about it well there is there is they were going for something you can tell what it like it's supposed to go like film one two three four then reset one two three and then that's over but it doesn't uh there's lots of things that get very confusing when you try and eye in it all out i guess as i should say it's hilarious continuity and like i said i think it was vox uh that were complaining about the mcu continuity and they said not and not everything could be as good as the x-men one and i was like what do you mean good way this is the thing you might be like oh what they're making it do like we were they making a joke i was like no no no they were serious they think that is really good do they even count dead pool in it does dead pool count because i think most people don't count dead pool but i suppose you can right like it doesn't hit anything to just throw he's just like a side story at the same time how do i actually ban somebody from the chat what do you want to do that because he keeps spamming all this bullshit is it full here full here yeah i've been putting him at a time out but i don't know how to actually ban him uh i think you hit the three dots and hit block what can you not do that i hit the three dots and that says go to channel report remove put user and time out i think we got less god dammit there he is again look at this motherfucker with his arabic bullshit yeah apparently okay okay i could block oh yeah you got a unwanted commercial content or spam there we go all right could just say fucking annoyance he was he was popping up on j streams not necessarily there was a lot of botneys one of them was like sexy girls here with an arrow it's like okay oh yes please i need that to draw my attention away from x-men please wait there he is again go here yeah i'd like i'd one hand that's like this is annoying as hell but on the other hand it's like we're popular enough that we have spam bots that's nice this is get our hands another two of them there's more than two of them go away here click here oh it's e-fab all right another bad joke i'm gonna get fired from this i was confused like you making a joke was what's happening pink um yeah hey i mean it was a better joke than that horrible line in dark felix you know that line that everyone is fixated on i mean i don't blame anybody for being fixated what what where did that line come from was that jennifer laurence or was that the people who made the film or was it both like i don't know exactly what her politics are but she's oh she she's drunk the kool-aid she's uh yeah don't forget man she is one of those actresses who got heavily or heavily benefited from harvey weinstein but what do you think the motivation is behind releasing something like that though because you know it's gonna piss a bunch of people off they already know that but maybe were they hoping it would like entice people to come watch it as well because there's nothing else in the film that's anywhere close to that line no there's not there's i i don't know do i release that maybe maybe they were well maybe this deleted scenes that we'll see later down the line maybe and then it'll be like oh my god the thank goodness they cut her out but who knows there's so fucking many of them holy shit sorry this there's fucking like 80 of these accounts how are they yeah are they any mods well i'm but banning them like i was gonna say i never needed mods that's the weird thing maybe it's me jesus christ there are a lot of we do that alex you a mod i should mod you i i do i do have more than a setting all i can do is remove them if i will i do it hopefully i don't know i'm out the whole chat's like mod me mod me no yeah i can't just mod anybody this is this is the benefit the fandom men is how a lot of people they can trust give it to james what's his name and then he can hire mods for you pay mods off pay mods off he could just bring some of his like workers from china to do it for him i mean oh yeah just just just don't click those links by the way people in chat they're probably not good for your pc whatever the hell it is if you disable links that's your new way to fix chat so somebody's the sense that to me just now um i can only mod can link yeah how do i it does anyone know where to do that this is really great content for a streamer tutorial uh um i'll i'll it was medic or suck medic who said it to me and just going ask them though do we do this um but yeah okay let's let's get a little bit you know more details instead of just saying it's bad what is bad about dark phoenix go everything how dare you i liked it when jennifer laurence died okay that was a good part what i'm sure she got loganed i was like yes then i was like shouldn't logan if i kept that death i mean should you have died in some other way sacrifice to get rid of her i guess so like we have to give up logan me and the six other people in the theater watching the movie everyone cheered the wedge you died really really that that says yeah people cheered it's hilarious whatever it's whatever you describe theater going experiences i'm always like britain is so different everybody's silent is the great we are so cultured we do not make a single noise well i i think everyone in that theater was like expecting it to be shit because even after the movie was done the guys next to me and my friend they're like well that was a horrible pile of dog shit and they left and i was like yeah yeah without like other than laughing because it's like a comedy film or a joke in the film audiences in the uk just don't react that we were just like completely silent and then we just walk out and then wow some of us go on the internet and bitch about it but most people just seem to be very quiet about it are the americans uh yeah well uh wolf did you see it opening night or no no i was working that night i saw it the sunday after so there was just me and my friend we're the first two in there and we were like oh man we got the theater all to ourselves we could just laugh at this and then like a few other people came in and at first we were like oh we're not going to be able to laugh because they might like it but then they were like i went into my settings and i've ticked new comments with hashtags all URLs will be held for review so hopefully that worked i never review them we well yeah that i mean i'm not seen any are we did we do it is it done did we win if we won the war against the box it was a long war a tiring war it was a tiring thousands died millions um yeah uh they were all airbags so it's okay for like uh uh consistency the children you know them go into space did anyone else fight it like funny that they were like uh can the queen jack go to space and then hank is like i don't know i was like so decide for that for yeah from a writing standpoint why not just say oh yes like if he tested it or something instead of making us go like oh so you could just do that in the next day i mean i mean the fact that they went up to space without encounter suits is like well we're all mutants what we'll definitely live in the uh well as your atmosphere won't we yeah totally that was a there was um you know i i haven't seen apocalypse in a while so i don't really even remember what sansa did aside from be glowy at one point and that was it all anyone did did did apocalypse established that she could breathe in space because i thought it was extremely jarring when she just went out into space without a helmet on she's nobody said anything about it she's the dark phoenix wolf why would she need oxygen is that established in apocalypse because i don't remember she's just op don't look don't even bother trying to like you know reflect on continuity for one film so they don't bother being actually like already getting like ticked off of the fact that you know like when he's supposed to save the astronaut night crawler had he like teleports seven times to get to him instead of just once to get to the other side of the the thing is that he just keeps going yeah he makes a proper fucking meal of it even though it should just literally be the simplest fucking execution going it's like it's not like the last it's not like the last astronaut was hiding he's literally in like an orange jumpsuit you just go oh there he is bang he lost gene her life also yeah that just reminds me of how um night crawlers arc the guy says my kid's a fan of you and then that guy dies and he's like i'll be the punisher now okay there we go more responsibilities out the window it's what i'd use as an example of like this is probably the shortest arc i've ever seen but they have all the plot points they're all there hero's journey mm-hmm well night crawler like i don't know he doesn't have an arc or character really does he just he's literally they just you know the problem is there's so many characters and they're not focusing of course all the characters cut but we know fundamentally they don't most of them anyway um oh is what are you talking about they do loads with professor axley humiliate him over and over again that that scene where she makes him walk up the stairs i was laughing so hard everyone has different reactions to it i i felt like they went way too far with it i was like no this is goofy yeah it went from oh my god she's like you know got off the rails and like you know she's you know she's you know abusing and humiliating him too oh man that's just weird like he's just like he's like he's like he's like he talks to her throughout the whole thing and you're like oh this is weird yeah what was that game clop was it's clop yeah yeah it reminded me of that it's like oh please no and there's so many ways to make him more tasteful just have him take a few steps that's all you need i still can't levitate him i still can't get over that first class takes place in the 60s this one takes place 30 years later and they haven't aged at all but i'm to believe that they're supposed to be ian mckellan this let's you know what you do yeah wolf idiot they mutants god they just aged really really really quickly in the slowly that was supposed to take place the same time as the prequel scene in uh last stand oh right yeah yeah because they visit jean early there too so oh but that continuity just gets to this is what i mean it's like it's like don't look too close for the x-men films they fall apart not that they don't fall apart anyway i have got what i think is half a decent point or criticism and i think the biggest problem for the film for me was just the amount of times when uh not even like that's only a fake out death but literally just a situation where oh that character should be killed that character should be killed um just because it's like like when jean has magneto and she's like you know oh hi magneto thanks for coming here to declare your intentions to kill me i'm gonna kill you and instead of just crushing his head in his own helmet which i thought would have been really fucking sick she sure just goes look i'm really strong and then she she lets him go and he's just like oh my god i can't remember who asked me it could have been wolf could have been free i don't know but it was like uh how come he wasn't stabbed by the shards of his helmet was that you wolf was that someone else i mean i i agreed with that but no yeah what i'm saying is it's so like bizarre to watch because you're like surely she'll kill him he just tried to kill her instead that he's gonna kill like his head's about to be but no she used the shards of the helmet to push him out of the building it's like okay that's strange but fine why didn't he pull the subway up what was the whole point of that just to break into the house magneto i know he can pull these iron from the ground and make a bullet out of it and shoot her in head without even entering the house he doesn't need to see what's going on in any of these films just walk through the door like they have to do some kind of crazy entrance i was somebody teleport something happens or he doesn't walk through the door there doesn't he he lifts the trade up just to put it down like i don't even know why he did that really and then he lifts the subway train and then he goes through the door and then he walks through the subway door doesn't he he literally could have just pushed the door open but no he had to like literally ram a train into the door he couldn't open it he doesn't have powers against wood he puts his hand against the wood like i can't do it there's hinges on the wood i yeah there's it doesn't oh it's a metal i don't even know what i don't even know what he can lift it is it just iron or is it like i don't know everything metal anything metal isn't anything that's um a magnetic metal isn't that the idea or is that just like the iron out of your blood and you know all kinds of not seeing what's cool in the comics he pulls the adamantium out of wolverine's pores have you seen the uh that clip from one of the x-men tv shows where he's defeated by a wooden gun and he's like how did you do that and then he explains it's on the gun and they take it to jail and they just said that in chat as well and the best part is like he as soon as he explains it he could have been just like okay well i can lift all these cars and crush all of you but he doesn't he just goes to jail wow oh that that clunky ass line as well with a evil evil woman is like you're not the only one with mind powers or something like that it's like what oh yeah also um scott or uh cyclops um his old character the whole film was just oh jean come back to me come back to me i love you jean jean yeah also also i don't know about you guys but they they they use the one f bomb in the entire film for him just to go oh yeah i'll fucking kill you and it's like he was so out of place it's like who are you oh i mean hey that f bomb is still better than anyone using logon cough but um fucking no just the whole it's whole characters literally just whining the whole time and then this is more than you could say for the enemies who were almost token like they bought them from the evil people vending machine they were like all right i am so i was just so confused why they introduced them in it at all i thought i thought the whole drama of jean going evil or whatever was well far more interesting than anything to do with oh aliens are invaded i think it may have worked if they had the three films of story to do it with because this is a very grand story if you think about all the elements but fucking hell these guys were rushed to to do it i i love that scene like after professor x is just leading on the rail and alien ladies taking the power out of jean and then professor x is like wait a minute you're a bad guy and she's like yes i'm going to kill the world he's on board with it and then she says i'm a bad man like he's like okay this is a good thing i guess and she's like i'm evil i thought he was gonna say no jean that's not who you think it is that's uh something something and like you know she's gonna be like i've been you know i've been uh duped and it's like nah he just went oh no she's actually a bad person i like as well the the show doesn't bother to explain it i mean the film it's like professor x could read people's minds and he's like he tries to read his he's like you're not human but i'm like is that does that prevent you from she clearly has a mind i don't know he can read their mind it's just they so okay this is me reporting those nasty rumors again but when this thing went into production the aliens were supposed to be scrolls they were going to be called scrolls and they were going to share it with marvel and fox fox's whole intention was prior to the sale was to kind of derail marvel so they wanted to start taking ideas before the mcu did uh because they feel like they've been doing the marvel thing longer than the which they have so yeah that's that's what they were doing they decided to use the scrolls and uh i don't understand how uh quicksilver gets sidelined through i i've never seen that in a superhero film where a guy gets injured it gets puts on the dl and we never see him again and they just write him out because they just they don't want to deal with him he's like the fad the favorite why yeah the family only good part of apocalypse that yeah in any situation the only good part any combat situation in the film could have been dealt with by quicksilver just that's probably why that is probably why they did it that's why they just didn't want to deal with it kill them i mean like it's the last movie yeah yeah that's what i was getting out earlier was just like there's so many characters who don't die where it's like why don't they die is it just it may be better off than let them literally get me fake oh i've been knocked down but i'm unconscious now i have them all surround do say like you're a good person you can do it she blows them all back and they all land on respective pikes that are just there like who left this debris and then professor x strolls up to each one individually going no don't die no no and then he rolls to the next one no no don't you know he just skips he just skips like four he's like i don't care about you he's like are you are you one of the good guys you don't look like a good guy wow one night roll yeah he just goes up to teleport me home i don't want to deal with this i still liked a lot of the fight scenes superficially i was like i enjoyed watching magneto kill people it's kind of i laughed when dreadlocks dude was killing people okay yeah you got you got me then dreadlocks dude i don't know what the fuck you have literally free reign to make a mutant power and you go what if his dreadlocks were like hydras that bite people or whatever it was actually outdid the dude who screamed really loud and wore a flying yellow suit yeah but none of them will outdo the last stand hedgehog man oh yeah i remember that one yeah oh i didn't i forgot about yeah he had a personality he was a mutant who could read minds and she had like she had like a standoff with uh Xavier and she's like i'm not the only one of the read minds or ever and she's she got fucking pulled out a window you remember i remember that but like it's just like what's up with it was it's like what is she just a mind reader or what because did she like naïve and like would she like stabbing people as well but i don't know like what was what was jen erick move is she they she they got her from the mutant fending machine the same machine it's right next to the villain machine that they were talking about but yeah it's that whole damn movie was ridiculous uh at least they have i don't know if you guys notice in brian's one of the things i've noticed in brian's singer films he always has mute bad guys so if you watched first class which i still like but uh any any character that's not a main villain just walks around and doing doing the bidding of the main bad guy but doesn't say a a word no no they might have all i said you're not the only one with mind powers so you're this was a this this was a simon kimberg movie but i'm talking about in the past oh i was happy to hear the villains actually talk in this film oh yeah you know rebecca romain i think has four lines in her three movies here's a shame because she actually was really cool she was way back jennifer law is really maybe appreciate how uh rebecca robates mystique oh her okay oh she was practically naked walking through the whole movie too that wasn't they gave her the the voice and they made her do a lot of like creepy creepy sort of actions and they gave her a little soundtrack whenever she was on like they felt like there's a lot more character and a lot more of the older one i say that to the original character because she's a villain she's not supposed to be a good guy she leads the team at one point but that's years down the line and that's the biggest problem with this film is like you're trying to adapt a story that took uh five or six years to do more than that five or six years to develop in the comic book so you're you know if you're a comic book fan you're reading this you're with this character for five or six years and like gene gray going bad you felt something nobody feels something about santa stark who can't do a good American accent at all and they she was just cast because she was in that big show and she has red hair if you have red red hair that i do not know well yeah uh personal question really i mean yeah game of thrones act is you know they they get in a lot of they picked up for a lot of like the wasn't kid herrington in in pompe that's the the funny one people like to reference and mazy williams is in uh is the new mutants which may never see the light of day but we'll see streaming services are always dumping ground right baby but yeah the that's for that movie she's gonna look 25 and she looks 13 in the movie so because this film two or three years ago thing is like i don't know how much she will age like what age will she actually age if you know what i mean she kind of looks yeah we'll find out sorry um yeah the film wasn't great uh the everybody getting killed was was just entertaining to me but most of it was just sort of like okay this is how this is happening um i liked hank and professor x having their disagreement it felt uh natural at least with because it finally banks on the fact that hank actually cares about misty because that they always like wonder where to take that they never really take it anywhere they're always like i don't know he's kind of a love with him it's like yeah but the the the other people are in love with here she's also in love with magneto but he's all often gone also he had a family one boy that they all died it's like it's kind of you yeah when you watch the ball you're like who is everybody to everybody anyway and then when you get a scene that's as simple as he liked mystique she's dead and he blames himself and professor x and then you get to have them be emotional against each other and i was like oh this is nice i i i always interpreted hank and mystique liking each other because the blues got to stick together because otherwise i kind of forget that hank is even in these movies until i watch them again and i'm like oh right you're you're here i thought it was hilarious that he he thought he could take on gene i don't know because the thing is right i i've i've talked to gary before about this but just the idea that uh magneto thought that he could take her on when he was clearly losing to her a second ago like in the other scene i'm like what and the fact that he arrives he says i am going to kill you and here is me now killing you it's like what do you need to do like if you have any hope of killing her it's going to be a quick metal bullet to the back of the head when she can't see you that's the only way you're doing it but i just want to have that well they just want to have that moment of i know who's blood that was it was like oh my god that scene could have been so much better as well why did she just walk out of the building started attacking all the police it's like what are you doing this helps nothing you why would she go to magneto in the first place when she knows that magneto cares about mystique and she says he helps mutants and it's like he also loved mystique dude he also it hurts a lot of people that's true well this is the thing he's always a good guy until someone walks up to him and does a thing and then he's the fucking villain for the film yeah honestly i think the other reason why she went there is because they wanted to get magneto back and they couldn't think of a real reason why i love that scene where he opens up the box and takes out the helmet and it's supposed to be all epic and it's like he realized he was in the last film and he was wearing the helmet in the last film they've had that helmet like moment in so many of the films now like him pick it do you remember the first helmet in first class it was like really purpley because it was like trying to be closer to the comics but then they just dropped that in the next ones they were like no it's too goofy and then i think they like tried to stylize it in uh apocalypse i i don't know yeah they they got the costumes a little better in apocalypse but that was about it what happened to the apocalypse to the apocalypse costumes they were wearing at the very end of the movie well this is 30 years on dude how many years on is this from apocalypse apocalypse was in like 80s wasn't it was in the 80s yeah so this was supposed to be like eight or ten years afterwards did they like lose the budget for the costumes and they're like let's scrap together these 30 dollar looking costumes eight years guys that's almost the entire run of the mcu and they're telling us that nothing of interest happened it's like no everything's fine because apocalypse is 83 apparently and then yeah the nineties or 1992 for dark phoenix it's fucking now this yeah i want actually i want to look this up i want to see how old michael fastbender is older than you that is true he well he definitely is yeah okay so he's so he's 42 now when was first class released at least eight okay that's not even remotely what i was looking for i didn't look for shoes google i'm looking for an x-men movie x-men first class release date that came out oh wow eight years ago okay so what's that would make him 34 so 34 plus 30 he should be 60 in the movies and instead he's kind of makes sense if he was me and mcallon at that point but he's not all right all right so from the new films you know as in uh x-men first class days of future past apocalypse and dark phoenix where does dark phoenix line up there in terms of good i think it's better than apocalypse than worse than the other two uh i kind of remember fucking days of future past that well it's actually well days of future past is really awesome but it's still got loads of writing issues um and it's got it's a future past the one where it's quick silver freeze magneto yeah it feels that movie feels like having the best of both worlds of the of the old and new and it's really cool to clash them and fuck i love the fact that like the opening scene is watching the x-men getting slaughtered by the sad dolls it's just like jesus christ what is happening what movie am i watching like what the fuck yeah i'm sure they didn't carry on making the film about that well yeah i mean this is the thing they don't have enough time they could have had their mcu um they're really better than the fucking alien slash you know the skull the mcu would just they just took something that was there for everybody like so i still stand by sam ramy could have had his mcu if he had uh well it may be him and whoever else needs to sign off but you know you make uh your third let's assume the third spider movie was good and then you make a venom movie that's solo and you make um fuck you even have like a vulture movie or something and then you you continue another spider man movie you call it you stop doing spider man numbers you do the whole spider man uh revelations spider man and something something or whatever spider man is supposed to do their their original plan was supposed to be kind of bond that they were gonna stop you know doing the one two three four they were gonna recast every few years and they should have stuck with that did you see uh spider man four trending and it's for a marvel comic but everybody thought it was chin of the uh ramy film in the comic and people freaked out over it i would love it i'll be insane if they made a spider man four with sam ramy and toby mcguire that would just be like what the hell bring it on i want it yeah no i'm watching and this thing i think we could have had an amazing x-men universe if fox didn't have such a beyond inconsistent like looking at each of these films is like it's so different each one depending on who's in control who's starring in it who's writing who's directing brian singer this is what i say this is it brian sing was like wasn't he like in the jar or directing mode jar to them like before the before the like the new generation or whatever he was directing him before he left for superman and then he came back and now we're finding out the because matthew von did first class and i love matthew von he did layer cake i mean guys great kingsman good director yeah but then uh singer came on and apparently bailing uh that well during the filming he'll just disappear for like three or four days and kin kinberg had to come in and direct scenes for i think days of future past and apocalypse where singer would just but they would put up with it and uh on the freddie mercury why he was doing the same thing i there's a lot of things swirling around about brian singer no i know about the pedo stuff i know about that also probably got you know he likes to party no yeah so if he's doing drugs all right i'm like wow i'm disappearing for three to four days yeah that's a little yeah i i don't know i don't know what the producers think about that kind of thing but he's not like fucking i don't know he's not agrar fuck it's not great no he's not worth all that trouble yeah what was his like potentials over then the the x-men films which ones has he made in full what are all of his x-men films because he made the first and second right first and second and then he came on for days of future past and did apocalypse right okay so he's i remember thinking this i was like i'm pretty sure he did one of the ones i thought was the worst was like yeah apocalypse uh i found out why i didn't remember much of apocalypse i was asking my wife i'm like i'm tripping because i'm getting old so maybe early onset all simers is kicking in at 49 could happen and she told me i fell asleep for half the movie i'm like that's why i can't remember it um i yeah i talk through the movie yeah i can't really say anything about it okay what is what is the best one most people say Logan right i mean i i really love x-men too i need to watch all of them again um like a bunch of them yeah but out of the well out of all of them i mean are we counting the the wolverine films too everything except deadpool yeah don't count it cool everything but deadpool i'd say it's between x-men 2 and logan i would have to say logan but i like my memory is going to betray me because i watched a lot of the older ones like in like five plus ten years um so i'm just gonna go for two just because i know that it's not as but well i know three is where it like went off the road yeah three was one of the the first ones i remember being like they've destroyed everything this was all yeah and then they kind of like went oh shit what came first x-men three or spider man three oh that's a good question i can insult the google i think x-men three i'm thinking 2006 oh my god you're turning into Darth Vader again yeah oh yeah it was it was and by one this taught you well who's by one year huh how about that two franchises exploded within a year of each other yeah and i like the idea that it's like oh my sweet summer child it doesn't get worse come out like one year after yeah 2008 is iron man which changed everything series had to die for the mcu to be born i remember everybody was saying the superhero film was dead around three oh it's well there's people today saying like oh it's only a matter of time before the superhero genre dies i was like no it won't the idea is superheroes that's never gonna die as i say it's it's literally the biggest it's ever been why is it gonna die now not only that just it'll never die people i don't know if you we've talked about this before i think on e-fat maybe but the idea that people go you see western used to be on top but now it's like a gone genre that people are partially trying to resurrect it's like that's gonna be the way it is for superhero it's like the dumbest statement ever because superhero superhero is not limited like western is you can have a superhero western film you have a superhero sci-fi film you have a superhero fantasy film like you have no limits the idea is you just need one character who has powers but sometimes not even that batman doesn't actually have powers he's rich excuse me what's that film we see the trailer for it they where it's like the kid is superman but goes bad what's that oh right yeah like that's not even they well that's not a quote quote superhero film is it or i don't know what they call it but that's also a film that's taken from the idea of superheroes isn't it yeah like no it's mistake bright burn for the movie bright with will smith and we need to watch that free fat movies i think it's such a terrible film um but yeah no i don't it'll get less popular than it currently is sure like i think superheroes is essentially piqued with endgame i'd be surprised if it gets more popular than that but it who knows right well we're not holding off a fucking dc to make anything good do we so what do you mean aquaman is oh dude i forgot to tell you wolf uh so for father's day my dad wanted to watch aquaman i was like okay i'll watch this fine you know tomorrow mod su whatever the hell his name is basically your aquaman's dad oh so that guy yeah when my dad's okay when my dad saw him he said you'd my dad's got a brain okay but he said uh wow he looks a lot like keanu reeves what and he was like you know keanu reeves i was like from the matrix and he went yeah please tell me you like pause the movie pulled up a picture of it was like no i just like wait wait when he went like he came back a couple of seasons i was like do you still think he looks like keanu reeves he's like no it might be it might be a sign of a stroke yeah like he smells bread and sees keanu reeves and people that aren't keanu reeves um yeah i ideally put a tweet out about it but i was like i can't contextualize this in a way that doesn't sound like i made it up i was like i'll fucking i'll leave it like people will be like oh yeah of course he said that i was like no really it was really funny but uh guys hate aquaman was that how we say it aquaman aqua or aqua yeah i think i think britain would say aquaman then you guys would say aquaman aluminium is a much better way to pronounce it oh yeah there's this this one's where you're like america or britain have the better one because like you know some of them sound silly some of them don't you know it's tough to get the right we got it we got to share and be like sometimes you guys did the better version sometimes we did you never know anyway we said keanu has had quite the renaissance i feel like we're inbound for some oba fat no jango fat like keanu memes at this point or let me get something going on there i don't know keanu fat um yeah we we can now talk about the expanse if you guys would like to um that is essentially the main course of this stream or at least the point of it which is kind of odd but well the sooner we get this through the sooner i can eat so i'm beautiful um so yeah i guess the setup would be i recently finished it uh i've not read any of the books but i watched the whole show or at least what's available to right now and um i didn't think it was very good in fact i probably put it in the degree of like it's below par i don't know if i go saying like i'm not gonna say terrible or anything i probably wouldn't even say bad just just just it's just mad with it with a hint of bad um i'm pretty sure wolf despises it because he's a huge fan of the books and alex i think is around about on the same page as me hasn't read the books we've seen the whole show and gary has seen the show read all the books and as far as i know loves them both loves them but well i love uh most of the books there's two of the books i don't love the most recent one was great uh i thought it was a return for the the two um abandons gait and cybel a burn uh i don't mind these favorites i don't mind those are not perfect but uh i don't like babel on's ashes really you don't like uh oh god damn what's the now i'm brain farting now it's uh the one before the last one uh but so the one where they were rising because they uh they sideline holding so much i don't want to get too much in the spoilers but i just there's a couple characters like meet you paw i cannot stand that character every chapter i it was arduous getting through it but mostly i love the books i love their structure and uh i uh yeah i the first book is amazing i wanted to ask you to can i ask well fun dude uh can you can you guys tell me what it is about the either the show or the books but i didn't care from the the show let's say that but what is it about the the the the expanse in general that you guys are like really passionate about with it or like what do you like about it a lot for me especially it re it contextualized itself in full with uh the latest one because i didn't realize how invested i was until the latest book when characters i really loved started dying right so it is oh yeah it it's definitely the characters i mean the world building is excellent too but the characters are what hold it together for me and i didn't realize how much i loved them until book eight and i would go as far to say that uh the expanse books it's my favorite series ever so i'm a peak investment right now they're not perfect books but i love them yeah that's right because basically what i'm well my ulterior motive is is i want you two to convince me to read them basically because the show did not convince me to go on and watch them i'll go read them sorry this is definitely time to read it because the last book comes out next year yeah they come out with books on time and that's the oh yeah you have to consider all right i mean it's totally not another series that doesn't do that yeah well and they come out with a book it's damn near every year so the quality every year or at least i think two books actually came out in the same year one at the very beginning and one at the very end if i remember correctly did and they were uh both times they were like this one was late but that was due to a printing error so the book was done and considering that these guys are pumping out a book every year of this quality that has to be factored in uh that's why i you know i'll forgive it with some they try to do different things and that's what i like they introduce new characters each time they do this great world building but they stick with the core characters i really her characters has been completely sidelined but i'm with you the last book that was a gut punch and i did i also didn't realize how much i like that character oh yeah not not to be addicted but why do they have to get them out so quickly at the expat at the i could say that the expense but at the expense of quality if that's if you're like kind of i think it's kind of like the game what about that i don't think there has been steep decline in quality well first off it should be noted there's actually two authors that work on this and they write yeah i'm i'm familiar with that yeah okay so i mean already if it was one author it probably would take a lot longer but it's expedited in that way but i don't really think that they uh that the books decline in quality there's some that aren't quite as fun as others like i agree with nerderotic the first half of Persepolis rising is pretty meh especially with like the holding getting sidelined but i think the last half of the book really seals it for me and got me invested again uh also i'm never gonna be able to pronounce the titles of the book so i'm just gonna say book one or two i'm gonna fucking stumble on the precipitous rise of what yeah it started out as like a i think a role playing game or something and then they turned it into a book series uh or at least conceptually i'm not really sure if the game was out first or not um and that's what helped them with their world building and they are doing a game now that the rpg i think is coming out later in the year i don't know if they crowdfunded it or not but um yeah what i like about it is it is structured a little bit like like Game of Thrones like a song of ice and fire is you have perspective characters you have three factions they're fighting each other and then you have an outside force coming in threatening them all and it's blue oh sorry when i was watching the show um because when i went into it people well a group of friends who had seen it with all they kept doing was going ah the books better the books are better i was like all right okay but i'll still watch it because it was on amazon prime why not and then when i was watching it i was like man what the fuck is going on well not not not what is going on but like what is with these characters like you know i was like surely they must be surely they gotta be much more fleshed out in the books because for me in the show they really like they were well majority of them for me like carpool cow so just you know they weren't really characters with their own wants or motivations or you know history or if like and they were just like ah i'm this guy and i'm this guy and it's like okay and after watching three seasons of it's like someone of them have barely like you know moved past anything in terms of character development well that's what i hate about well one of the things i hate about the show is uh amos in the show is nothing like he is in the books he's such a lovable character in the books he's one of my favorites really yeah like genuinely i love that character in the books he's awesome okay so tell me why because honestly like he's like the biggest carpool cow he's literally i am a guy with no morals i listen to black chick she tells me what to do and that's my development also until until he does not anymore yeah so why is he well he's whatever in the box well first of all i totally disagree with that what i totally disagree i think amos is fleshed out if you pay attention in the show they talk about how he had been uh they insinuate that he's been part of a program and uh when yeah they they get into why he's so no i get that i'm like i know that you know this history of him back on earth in chicago or whatever and when he meets the guy who's had his morality taken out of him he's like oh can you reverse it because he's like maybe that's what's done to me or what's happened to me kind of thing i get that but it's like this is over three seasons it's like his development or whether it's like glacial paces or paint the place i was about to say we pretty much summed up his entire development that's about it i don't like like tell me why i'm wrong right now he's yeah or explain that he's got he's got a history where something has happened that made him the man he is now which is a cold hard relatively pragmatic soldier but who cracks a joke every once in a while but maybe not even be jokes a lot of them are like we're laughing them are like oh god he's serious and that's that's pretty much amos and um yeah somebody somebody said amos on the show is a bland version of jane from firefly i that's quite i i agree with that i disagree i mean i love jane from firefly yeah what what do you love about amos so i they've insinuated with amos when he was a kid he was passed around uh he was a uh oh yeah he was a sex worker yeah working brothels and yeah he was a sex worker and that's what led up to it i you know that was enough for me it all depends on how much you are willing to buy into with any show that's how it goes with any show uh but i thought i was surprised because when i first saw it was reviewing it for the podcast i was like it's on siffy it's gonna suck uh everything and i was surprised that it was of a higher quality than i found out why it's got ran shankar from uh farscape and star trek on it and i'm a huge fan of both of those now i wasn't a fan of farscape till recently but star trek i've always been a fan of um and i yeah i thought it developed very well and got better now i am a giant tom jane fan that plays a huge part into why i love the show and stuck with the show um always worried uh how good it would be without him uh and while it wasn't as good without him it found its feet um uh the only the only thing i have problems with is the end of season three because it got rushed because they were about to get canceled so they had to rush through with the end of the book i wanted to bring up was when i was watching it uh the film was explains that two episodes into the second half of season three and i know that sounds weird but it makes sense if you've seen it um the character uh ashford became my favorite character after he had like four seeds i was just like why is this happening and i think like my only take is just that i cannot connect to anybody in the expanse pretty much at all i found the entire crew the ross and ante to be like i don't get them that well it's like um we could go through one by one i guess but like yeah amos was fucking he was he was he was out for me uh i found it to be kind of just a roadblock in conversations slash the muscle um he reminds me of gun and angel where it was he was an antagonist to our protagonists he got in the way of things sometimes but he was also very useful whenever they go into fights um the uh and this is another problem i said to wolf i think it was i couldn't remember niobi's name after two seasons i think i what did i call it walt your member i said like i said a completely different name like i know you said something completely different and i had to ask you like who in the hell you had to describe her role on the ship and i was like yeah i described what she does and you were like you mean niobi and i was like oh yeah i guess um and this is the thing right i'd have to you know give it a full on rewatch and pay attention to everything to really dig down to what the criticisms i had were but like i found everybody really annoying and it's uh holden is so archetypal to be like in a bad way he the he's like brooding altruistic man he's funnily enough he's kind of like angel um but uh angel wouldn't have been strong without the satellite characters bouncing off him while holden's got a robot sadist annoying engineer girl who i just i haven't even it's hard to explain uh even um i felt like alec you know like the whole storyline with alex is that he's um choosing the life of the the piloting and the fame because he prefers it to the love he has for his family that's done in like i want to say four scenes over three seasons like there's barely anything for it when that's like the most interesting element of him other than he's a guy who gets good piloting done and he's a relatively filled guy he's got a conflicting interest because he's of mars but he works with a team that's essentially doing work for earth the belters and and for mars selectively depending on who they think needs a nudge in the right direction sort of thing i was like there's stuff to work with but it all feels so thin i i think would be my general criticism compared to how much other time other shows spend with characters and how much i i can lean about them um miller was probably my favorite up until ashford uh but i still have issues with his storyline like what the hell's with miller's um police station selection of characters they get dropped like his his his uh double dealing boss his his partner who disagrees with his methods the girl who was kind of in love with him and he was kind of in love with him but he did it's like all three of those characters are dropped i was like what was the point in any of them i don't know i feel bad because i've just been ranting you should be able to speak for a bit gary oh i was gonna let you finish i can't like talk you out of your opinion but as far as i'm concerned i love the crew the rosenanti i love uh alex is one of my favorites and it's knowing structure of the show is uh and this is how i interpret it and if you aren't buying into it that's cool is no we don't know these characters basically the story starts out as a bunch of co-workers imagine if you're working in an office some disaster happens and you are stuck with a bunch of co-workers forever you're on the run you're part of this uh perceived crime and a cover-up and a murder and you are thrown together with your co-workers from apple bees or something which would be probably hellish but uh get that out of here murdoch and yeah damn it oh i saw something else in the chat that stuff can go fucked off i mean just say anything and i'll mod you because i trust you gary thanks yeah and come on at your own discretion you can do whatever you want chat behave you naughty bastards so yeah so they're on this adventure and we're supposed to be learning about the characters as it goes along now uh i mean listen i could think differently when the series ends if i don't feel like i've got uh but as far as alex is concerned and this is because i'm supposed to separate this because show and book are two different things completely and i'm not supposed to compare the two because they're two different worlds but i know don't say let's do it do it that we're going to get background on niomi and alex probably you know if it gets a fifth season that's the season we start finding out about the crew we start getting back uh because they purposely withhold back i mean we still don't know in the books we know holden was in the navy did some stuff didn't like being told what to do but we still don't uh and correct me from wrong wolf if i missed that maybe like he did something or they they they ordered him to do something he didn't want to do or he just didn't like to be told what to do and left and got a dishonorable discharge but we don't know the exact details of it we don't uh we found out something big about niomi later uh alex we find something out with it it all happens uh i don't know what you're like one of my favorites so book five is my fear i was just about to ask you that god damn it's a good book i'd say i'd still say book six is probably my all-time favorite but book five is really really great and book eight got we're gonna have to talk about the books after the show is done because i i literally don't know anyone else that reads the books and i'm like dying to talk to someone about okay you've read book eight right i read book eight and i loved it i thought i was so freaking good and oh my god they were moments because i was uh coming back from colorado um and i was listening to the audio book have you listened to the audiobooks yes oh my god jefferson maize is a fucking maize godly narrator i love him um but book eight like there was a point or a few points actually on my way back from colorado where i was like on the verge of tears listening to it like i was beside myself i didn't realize how much i love the characters but anyway um i don't i might be wrong about this let me look it up i know there's some like offshoot expanse books like i think there's one for the butcher of anderson station um let me look it up real quick there might be one for holden as well i haven't read the the side books i've only read the main ones i haven't read them there's a most recent the most recent side book which is real i should have read it with they said it was very important to the for as a lead in to book eight and i didn't read it yet but uh oh and favorite i love the churn because that gives you the aim of stuff so i haven't actually read any of them and i haven't luckily i haven't had any issue on uh understanding what was going on it's not super important it gives you a little background and they mix it into the series too so uh but like bobby has one that's pretty good and uh yeah yeah looks like you know there is the butcher of anderson station i think there might be one for holden is there you have you read all of them or no uh hang on apparently the churn is amos's backstory is amos's backstory voices gone tis me again thank you yeah just like say some mouth of sauron quotes before you do it'll happen again now i've unplugged it but i guess it's a little like you do you'll be back and in deeper volume i could have sent you the script for everything he says because you need to do it i don't know what's doing it i i'm not even touching my computer like i'm not even like i'm fiddling around with this fucking pokeball right now in my hand and that's it it was like uh why am i doing it um okay scene 64 yeah the next time it happens we'll tell you and then you have to read from it uh there's another person who's spamming chat i know um yeah i mean i guess this stream has made it so i now i'm gonna have to find people to mod i mean i don't know is uh james more are you there we can trust you i don't i don't mind modded you chat you've been naughty now and you you're gonna get people deleting shit for you like is this what you want i could just imagine james more getting control and then he's actually just in ai and he's been waiting for this moment the whole world is destroyed but then again he says on a mobile right which is oh jenice here yes where's don as well because he's he's messaging me on discord about this dawn the dawn uh don't oh don't i mean yeah i'd mod him in here as well if you want the original dawn of the discord uh come on chat mod the dawn yes i'll try mod more later here you go mate yeah we usually honestly i'm disappointed chat isn't usually that tis me but um there don's in the chat cow where is he you have to at me i yeah i i've already lost him apparently mr mecca too not the yeah not the real one i don't think i don't know the youtube channel other youtube channels if they post and they show up like with tick marks or whatever well that and you can just choose to go to his uh channel and it won't be the one that we know all right there's dawn i got you all right well you can be modded as well no need to apologize this chat is always brilliant i've been uh getting it in mind too it's been it's been going around yeah i mean you know they're probably a bit restless because we're just chatting about a tv show instead of responding to a video we'll get to a video guys all right and i'm not saying i mean this is literally like less than zero point zero zero one percent of the chat so don't worry you know but um it's a little terrible though just just i've never needed to mod them and i now realize that's probably a mistake on my part zero zero one because i probably get mods i play record numbers yeah gary you bring the worst out of these people what's wrong with you really do i bring the dregs oh because i am one so right there with you oh have i lost it dawn is horrible things in the chat hang on oh this is gonna trigger you mauler uh someone said anyone get back anyway get back to discussing why the expanse is better than buffy the first um um it might it might be like i won't even say that i like the expanse buffy's high is obliterate uh the expanse is highs but buffy probably i don't know buffy's characters are way stronger than the expanse is i reckon um oh no you didn't buffy's production is worse than expanse probably as a whole that's not a controversial thing to say oh it was also made like what 20 years earlier yeah and you know this is the thing like it's uh it's it's tough to compare but i mean Jesus like i don't know what what do you think gary which one do you prefer oh buffy's one of my all-time favorite shows i dare not uh but as far as um well pretty yeah the expanse production's way better characterization's better and buffy and we'll see how things end hmm yeah buffy is more fappable yeah i would say so yeah i would agree with that yeah yeah i mean if i squint my eyes holden almost looks attractive maybe um i was gonna say uh me and uh alex apparently uh were blown out of the expanse by the same episodes and i i talked to wolf about it quite a bit apparently it's the same thing happens in the book but everything's a lot weirder in the show and i'm gonna have to try and like condense this in a way that makes more sense but this is this is less character stuff this is more just how does everything work so when when aeros becomes a crazy bomb that's gonna like destroy earth there's a lot of things that everyone's doing that when i was watching it i was like why why are you doing this why are you doing that and um the biggest one being that miller manages to convince the crew of the rosenante that they should just go because he's gonna be able to walk down the ghost inside the goo that's turned a giant space station stone into a missile that's heading into earth and that they don't need to focus on allowing the missiles to take place like them being convinced by it was so hard for me to believe um that it just like that i remember that being like well whatever like plot line i was following in this show has just been destroyed like uh if you remember there's a moment where uh he says check my vitals i'm not insane and then Naomi does and she's like yeah you you're fine as if to say that him hearing the voices makes like they're actually there because they checked his vitals i was just like i don't think like if you did if you said that to me i just feel like i i don't care that your files are okay you're literally listening to the already established though that eros can move it could it uh it's doing something it's breaking physics so they're not sure uh if they are pretty much convinced at that point that all the explosives aren't gonna work anyway oh no they think it will because he says it's the backup plan he says he's it dodged uh the um the bohemath i'm gonna just call it wasn't oh yeah bohemath at that point yeah i'm so uh i that's the way i interpreted that they did just figured out there's nothing else we can do at this point they can't pull it up uh they were guiding the missiles in right and he's like if you guys do that you'll die because of the speed he's got the bomb with him remember he's carrying it with him yeah but they plan was always like this doesn't work i'll blow it up they plan was always that even when you had that because they were they were keeping up with if you remember they start chasing it like a good episode like like 20 minutes before he even makes it to the part where he says okay guys maybe you should just go because he's heading all the way in um yeah and and he says that uh he's pretty sure that there is the essentially the ghost of the girl who died who started all of this wants to go home and that's why it's directing eros to um like the to earth because she wants to go home and that he's gonna convince her not to and they essentially kind of swallow it and i was just like this is so beyond ridiculously stupid um and that's totally dug it that's my favorite episode i i love it if it was tweaked it could probably be great but uh also the fact that the the goo basically kills anyone who comes into contact with it uh quite quickly even to the to the point where you see that uh weird guy they picked up at one point he gets like sucked into it if you remember and he's like blah um it just leaves miller alone and he gets to the core without any interruptions i thought that was interesting like uh and he was in the space suit well the one thing okay like i was okay with this but the one thing they didn't have the budget for which was kind of a bummer uh and i'm sure wolf will be with me on this one is the vomit zombies they really cut out uh because you're supposed to go through a process there's an entire process that the you know what i wanted to see the fucking rib cage dragging itself around like it showed in the books like that was creepy as hell to read the bones like uh spinal column and bones would form to like the spider thing so you see body parts walking around like a spider on the wall and yeah just like i like literally just read the book for this episode um so like just earlier today i was listening to the past the last few hours of the audiobook and it's explaining how there's like a kind of black rib cage looking thing that's grown up along the walls and they're like there's like all these glowing kind of firefly like lights floating around and in my head it was like that looks so fucking cool and then the show it's like oh no can't do it oh and then the the other part they can't convey that's in the books is everybody that the protomolecule basically melts down and uses as parts is still somewhat alive their consciousness is still alive oh yeah because miller's listening to the voices of everyone on aero's he's trying to find the heart of it freaking horrid it's it's uh yeah the book genuinely good horror at first it kind of drops the horror after book one but it's still pretty fun there's a little bit at the end of you think they might be returning to that a little bit and after book eight i mean there's i am i'm very curious to see what they're gonna do with book nine because you have um god what's her name um she's going to the artifact thing why could i not remember her name she was in book four um fuck you know who uh the scientist lady i should really know this it's really starting to piss me off it's called live string brain fart and it starts with the characters she's from africa um yes okay i like it i fucking remember her name it's really making me angry i should know this i just read the book now i'm gonna have to look um elvi elvia coye elvi elvi elvi yeah i really want to see what she does um because she's going to with the the two little children that were like messed up by the uh the drones on like honia i'm really curious to see what she does and i really want to we're getting to spoiler territory here i don't know if we can talk about this but yeah there's a bunch of stuff i want to see how it goes especially since it's going into the people that took out the protomolecule creators it might go horror again which will be that would be good i'm glad they're going there and they're going big i was worried that they would kind of keep it a mystery but uh they've really done a good job with that yeah i i'm at peak investment after book a i'm so ready i'm probably gonna reread the entire series in preparation for it and i haven't done that for a book in a very long time and i love that it it eventually goes to you've got this technically advanced race the human beings that are taking on basically gods and uh what they did with the star in that book was fucking awesome oh god yeah when they're like oh nothing happened did then like what was it oxygen was flooding into the ring gate space or something and then they were like oh shit this is gonna go horribly wrong yep like that was a great element to the book i like the ideas of the show i don't like the ideas way better yeah i mean gotta bring it back to the whole that that scene it's like that's this is one of sort of many issues i thought it was really dumb that his bomb was damaged in such a way that it has to be pressed every 60 seconds to prevent it from exploding i'm not even 100% clear of why they had that happen in the episode like it was completely unnecessary he could have just had the bomb i guess it was to have him stay for a few minutes arbitrary time clock i watched doctor who i'm totally okay with arbitrary time clocks i i just don't really get the point and the fact that when she puts her hand on it it just neutralizes the bomb or something i was like okay why he says hold this for a second so i can get naked or uh yeah take off his face yeah i'm sorry but when he kissed her i was like wow okay yeah in the book it doesn't happen i thought it was really jarring felt weird felt real weird but uh what are you gonna do um i more technical stuff i thought it was funny that the ship misses the moment ship and they can't just try again they're just like done like couldn't you just realign the books they explain like um the g forces uh required to actually turn the ship around um as fast as they would need it to in order to catch up with the uh with aeros again it would like tear the ship in half but the rosenante keeps up with them for well after that the navu's way bigger than the rosenante the rosenante could turn around they they're pretty good about that they're pretty good about that is actual yeah they use actual science to explain that i don't know how it happens in the show because i quit after episode four well i was gonna just bring up like why couldn't they like does does earth not have a big ship they could also do that with like to the point where they just smash it into it to prevent it from hitting earth i don't know if they would have time what do you mean they don't have like light speed they look their choices uh allow us to get obliterated as earth or they don't even try they'd even benched it i was like it's a better plan than nothing if it is space you cannot escape the Mormons that's how orbits work if you miss a rendezvous you have to go another wrap around the sun no no no no no so the thing is heading right for earth they try to cut them off with a Mormon ship the Mormon ship just misses a picture like the Mormon ship does a snake sort of move it keeps all of its momentum and the thing is the aeroship at that point is moving very slowly you get what i'm trying to say right now but the problem is i mean even the where i will the only time we're talking slowly and i mean it looks slow again i haven't watched that part of the show but in the books it explains like the g-forces required to turn the ship around it then fire off in the direction of aeros especially when aeros is defying the laws of physics and going way faster than it should be it wouldn't work that way even that ship probably wouldn't have even changed the trajectory of it it's aeros is huge it's going fast and that's the only time i will take their their science i'll have a bone of contention that they would even move aeros it probably wouldn't i mean as long as they can not even a centimeter move it slightly away from in any by degrees then it'll push it away from it right and the law they just uh they just did a scientific study which you want to get really depressed is if we are able to say there's a big it's a certain size of asteroid if we were able to drill in the middle and do an arm again and blow it up with a nuclear bomb it would just reform in space going the same direction they they did a couple of uh uh oh god tests on it some computer tests and uh it blew up and then just went the gravity there's so much mass it just went right back together and kept going in the same direction all it doesn't understand the mass and speed this is happening at what why do you think all i've said is aeros is barely moving right it moves enough so that you don't understand the moment ship misses and i'm just saying like all it is saying why not try again why sit on your ass and just die i can and that's just one of the many options right because you're the whole they fire 50 percent of earth's missiles at it which i thought was interesting but it's like okay fine if that's what it takes why not um because they say they lose it disappears from the radar which is another like okay that's something that uh the protobolecule could do was like fight i guess that's awkward but um you'd think there would have been there's like no ships in in the area other than the rosenante that could just fly towards it or that you can't just fire more missiles that that are all lying in weight or there where was its last direction what its trajectory would be it has to go to earth just look at where it was and where earth is and then guide in a straight line that's better than nothing but they just give up but then they're like fred johnson can do it did you find it funny that there's a line where fred johnson loses his shit because he thinks that if the rosenante peel off the missiles will belong to him but they won't hit eros and earth will think that he's stealing the missiles i thought that was funny for two reasons one if earth gets destroyed well no one to complain about him stealing those missiles but two uh that concert is turned into a net gain in the next season like he just goes like i've got missiles and i was like i thought you said that you were really concerned that they they would think you stole them but now you're just like yeah stole a few of them so good it's like what yeah because he's trying to gain power yeah but like he was and he sees that it's leverage there's there's no like connecting scene for those two where he goes from being panicked about like how oh god they'll think i stole him too like you need a character just goes um you know what if what if we do steal him then he's like we can't do that and she's like what if we do steal him but they don't know about it and then he's like hmm you know that seed we never had that we just jumped from him being like oh my god this is terrible everything's over and the next season he's like i've got some missiles who knows what we could use them for i was like what the fuck it was weird that's all there was lots of little things that i was just trying to like maintain but yeah like the whole a lot of it guys don't ever watch star trek discover your brain will explode probably i mean this is me i get i get i pick up on like all of the things to make sure all the gears are moving in the right direction so that i can get fully immersed sort of thing and just yeah the everything to do with that whole sequence i i felt like it was uh super over drama drama drama ties and that there's lots of options that even i wouldn't have thought of that would be obvious sort of thing like if i was watching with anybody who knows stuff about things they probably like yeah they could do this they could do this they could do this and i was just coming up with a couple like for example like why don't earth just have a whole bunch of ship even a fleet of ships and just shoot them all into arrows uh as it's coming through if like i don't know anything they just sort of give up and i thought it was weird because it comes to the ticking clock of can miller convinced the ship to not attack earth essentially and i was like i mean of course he will it's like it's not going to blow up earth it felt like for me while i was watching it whether it makes sense or not i bought into it that they that was pretty much that was it they saw that it could avoid the ship uh it can break physics go faster change direction like what's and we just shot half our missiles uh there could be an argument then shoot the other half and why wasn't mars chipping in on this one and you know yeah certainly but uh i just bought into it at that point like i said it's olivia said you can't actually fight a comet uh that was the plan was to fight the comet uh they just couldn't see it on the radar and that's what ruined everything apparently their missiles could have destroyed arrows and they even say like they're gonna destroy it in a way that like they wanted to nuke the surface first so that it burned all the protomolecules it wouldn't spread a lot of space and now they mention that yeah um but no it all worked out it's all great um kind of think of like what are the assuming it would have worked they think it would have worked but they also thought that the ship was gonna work too because in the book the whole idea was there's the command center quote-unquote uh which Miller's heading toward where julie mow is going to be and the idea of putting it of sending it to venus instead is if the nukes don't work and even a shred of that uh command center is still around the protomolecules still going to be effective and lethal and can still head to earth so it's safer to go to venus than it is to just nuke it out in the middle of nowhere and hope that nothing survives so that's whole Miller's whole plan is to get there you don't know how space physics work and it was never gonna work it was a hail berry tell the characters in the show that that's the whole plan that's what creates the drama of the episode all i'm saying is like if this is x then surely this is x as well and the show is like no but uh yeah if it works that way then they're all stupid for thinking that it would never it would work in the first place if it doesn't work that way then they were stupid for not trying something else that's basically where i'm at right now um i don't understand space physics you're right i am not an astrologer to this um it does hey the expansion doesn't have sonar in space so i just i just thought it was funny discovery has sonar in space where they were like it's gone off the radar like it's off the radar jesus i was it off the radar i was like i don't fucking how does your radar work it's got stealth tech being a bit autistic aren't you um i would i would kind of i would say it's the reverse i'm like doesn't this make sense everyone's like no we don't understand space physics i think that argument can be made about all youtubers myself included i mean what yeah what uh that was the first thing that was said about me by my fans when i released the uh tlj critique 1999 there is no spoon 2019 there is no graphite take this man to the infirmary he's clearly insane um oh that was really dumb so do you remember that when they pick up the three martian people who were like knocked out in that ship that they're trying to salvage gary yes i do do you do you think it was funny where they clearly established that they don't trust the crew of the rosenante they even kind of hate them because they think that they've stolen the martian ship and then they're like okay guys you'll just stay in here okay and then alex is like yeah i'll hang out with them it's like oh okay and then just leave him in there immediately i was like wow they could totally overpower him and take his weapon um but okay and then they do that in the next scene and i was like this is odd that they tried to take control it was meant to be a dumb decision though that's the way i took it it was meant to be like a stupid decision but i was like alex who is who alex who like thinks he's still he's still really loyal to mars so he just thinks they're all still the good guys and it kind of shows how you you know like and it showed the character alex it showed taught him a lesson that he's not really a martian anymore oh and if i'm convincing anybody in my chat to be like well i won't give this show a chance go give it give it a chance absolutely i might be a negative nancy here you know you never know a lot of people love this show gary just having a friendly debate yes i'm not making this is this is some this is some random thought shooting off left right and center like this is not a big old critique video where i say at the end if you like it you're a bad person you know i i i i've not said that but people would assume i have wolf says all the time don't you will i say what you say that if people like things you don't like they're bad people right yeah i i i say that a lot yeah um did you not get annoyed that in the second half of season three the politics of the universe are kind of gone because we're focused entirely on the inside of the ring and we just told in casual lines it's like yeah good thing the wall's over it's like it's supposed to be setting up something else now if they don't pay that off within the show then i will be pissed i because they are setting something up all of these skirmishes the thing about the thing that's cool about the expanse and as long as they stick with it with the show is there aren't limitless resources so if you have this big battle uh boon of jupiter and it wipes out half your ships half your ships are gone and that's going to factor in later i don't want to spoil too much but like half your ships are gone you can't just rebuild ship it's not game of thrones you can't have you're on go build me a thousand ships you know it takes in the show well hopefully in the show but in the books it takes time to rebuild a fleet and they don't have resources earth is tight on resources that's why they don't build a bunch of ships it's actually mars that's way more advanced and has more money and because they're more single-minded and they don't have a surplus population on a thing called basic which is like the welfare of earth um earth is essentially run if you guys haven't watched the show read the books by the un so and they do a really good job of showing like the good and the very bad of that so uh due to an environmental crisis the earth uh america doesn't exist anymore there's no real sovereign countries there's territories and it's run by the un and it's run very bureaucratically kind of like the the e you basically so imagine a planet run by the e you for like a hundred years and uh half the popular correct me if i'm wrong wolf is that half the population a large portion of the population is on a thing called basic or they give you a just enough money to eat and pay a rent and then you sit down and watch the telly all day basically yeah they they really make it seem like they do make a point i think it's in caliban's war when bobby is at earth with avasarla like they explained that and it's like that sounds horrible and bobby outright says that yeah like i it's a fate worse than death big so that's why people choose to either work what there is is there's the military industrial complex on earth and mars is pretty much a planet of a military industrial complex and then there's giant bohemith corporations on earth that pretty much run everything uh and it's it's all of the pitfalls of that and it does a really good job of kind of showing yeah it's it's basically you said the globe is it shows the globalists in charge and then them not doing a very good job basically it does a good job of uh showing the different perspectives of people too depending on if we're talking about the belt or mars or earth or later on uh the other worlds uh through the ring gates too yeah the belt the belters are again if you haven't read the books i've seen the show are basically uh the teamsters in space uh and some of them verge on a terrorist organization so it's a giant workers union and these people have lived up there for what over 100 years now so their bodies started adapting they're they don't do this in the show and it is disappointing uh that all the belters are like six to seven feet tall really skinny they have brittle bones because they're brought up in space i read about that they uh because the guy or the first belter they bring down to earth that um the middle eastern woman tortures or whatever they made they made him a seven foot uh lanky freak didn't they and then everyone else they just went ah they got like they gave up quick the belter sort of biology the right at the beginning of the show it feels like they're actually trying to convince us they're almost alien in the way that they are so stretched them but then as the show progresses most belts just look normal like most of them are just normal dudes and you're just like oh okay and they they try to show like how because you know uh toward the beginning of the show havlock is trying to learn all the hand uh language of the belt because they they grow up in suits so you wouldn't notice things like a shrug so they do it with their hands and they like only halfway do that which is like you know you kind of yeah and they have that really i don't know how it translates in the book all the books but they have a really um well that really shitty belter twang you know when they basically just talk like they're really stupid um you know that one guy i forget i don't know that i forget the guy's name but he's the one that uh miller kicks off the ship when like you know he goes to detonate the nuke or ever and he turns into oh right you know he just becomes a belter crony or ever and like he just speaks like he's like legit retarded and i'm like they cut out a lot of ways it's not so built a lot of like yeah yeah yeah yeah missa do that tingy all right it's a jaw drop big yeah no no no i i did actually think that like it is that kind of like is it like black lingo like a girl lingo or what because it's taken from the greek fisherman language that's what the writer said that i guess uh back i can't remember what there is a culture the greek fisherman became such a culture on their own that they had their own language it's a lot like city speak from bladerunner which is like a mixture yeah it's creole spanish um god what else uh i know it's creole in spanish and something else i get i get that yeah they become so insular obviously because if they're like literally out on an asteroid um they are not gonna well they're not going to interact with uh foreigners or whatever you want to call them earth doesn't have a mass of well extraterrestrials call them inners man call them inners dusters yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't know like because i'm gonna guess that they didn't to do the whole every belt or most belters look like aliens because they didn't want to go through makeup and CGI yeah i'm guessing that's the reason the guy that avis avis arla that one is torturing is like really elongated when you first see him but that's like the last the first and last one you see that's that elongated that's kind of a lesson in how they make tv and it's unfortunate but they throw everything into the first episode to get because it's the pilot to get the the things sold and then they kind of spread all their money they overspend on the first episode and then they spread it out throughout the series and this show was and it's not an excuse actually with less money you can get more creative but the show famously had no budget for three seasons so and they have one now if you're on the cv channel you don't do it unless you just like you know where well where shitty plot while where shitty ideas go to die kind of thing speaking i'm not saying that that's the expense but that's what like sci-fi channel is known for like speaking of that they just cancel happy um avis sarala uh sadovia and uh anderson doors like all of them disappear for the second half season three and i get it uh like sadovia should be in jail or whatever but that's it's done so quickly it's like he's been thwarted he went to jail it's all right it's like wasn't either villain for like two that cast on a different show that that's what happened fred johnson disappeared too because he's on the orville um and uh it was it was jarring and it was like between in the middle of season three we jumped how did they actually say what it is in universe it felt like i jumped in like i jumped a season there's a time gap isn't there like oh i would you've turned into a oh sweet wait wait wait wait don't do it wait give me the quotes i put it in the chat i put it in the chat uh which one's my for sauron it's uh 64 you gotta scroll down a little bit my master sauron the great bids thee welcome that's actually kind of weirdly close is there any in this route you afforded a treat with me the halfling was dear to the gc this is so crazy about hands of this post who would afford one so small could endure so much pain he did i gotta listen back to myself now oh that was brilliant oh sorry oh bloody hell that's great actually the halfling suffered great and who is this is seal jewels air it takes more to make a king than a broken elvish bleed he's right you know i will fix it now um but yeah uh and i i thought you know the part of season three where uh and it's awesome by the way uh ashford bringing on anybody who needs medical assistance because he's the only ship that has gravity i thought that was awesome as a show of character but i also was like are they doing this because they think that they're about to end and they want to have a poignant like we all came together moment in the face of what they sorry what they did with the ashford in season three i thought was was great because uh you know he was a much different character in the books uh and they actually gave him a soul in the show and i think it's because they thought they were ending i think that played was he like into a big time if i talk to wolf about it well so you say he was in like one like he wasn't even in it feel very long uh we're talking about my least favorite book in the series is book three so i barely even remember him being in it book three is like an important book for the series but it's really boring it's arduous it's a lot of oh they spent half the book uh helping the injured because i mean yeah like i understand why they had to have that book because it is extremely important for everything following but i i barely remember what happened aside from the ring gates are opened okay let's go oh and they ash ashford's kind of paranoid in the book uh he's not good at all there's no like redeeming quality in him he's always like this insecure captain who should have never been in charge but it's because he's way better he doesn't he die in the book i can't remember yeah he does he does and he and he kills somebody in cold blood like a very popular character yeah he kills Naomi's friend uh isn't it or am i yeah the mechanic yeah yeah yeah he can see did rodin was being very vague on purpose and the wolf was like oh you mean the specific person you're like yes that's okay but the book's been out for like almost 10 years it's one thing if we're gonna talk about book eight like i'm i'm okay like even though it would be something i could very well enjoy i'm okay with the spoiler limit has been breached on that one for sure has but and ashford again is like a one note he was because it was a political move and uh he butted heads with a character named bull who didn't even show up in the show he was kind of an amalgamate nation of drummer and somebody else but uh yeah they made him in the show they made him much better he was playing i forgot the actor's name but he's played by a great actor and he actually was awesome really well yeah that's the thing he got me um when he a lot of his lines even i was like man i wish this character was in season one because i probably would have like a bit much more attached to everything that was happening he just very assertive confident interesting history a bit of humor a lot of secrecy and the background they change his background so they they you know he's got burn scars uh from his daughter and stuff and uh yeah i wonder if he's gonna be in season four and i like that he cares he cares about life above being a belter but he still has pride for being a belter beyond any other nation i was just like yeah that's good shit i like it he's like a slightly more evil john snow essentially yeah he's a redeem somewhat redeemed character who's done like really awful awful things uh you know basically his reasoning was a little bit silly towards the end but i knew that they needed him to essentially run the role of antagonist the whole like we have to blow everything up because if anyone uh if we were to leave here everyone would be too curious not to come back and they'll screw everything up and then he's almost he's a bit upset by the end of the season because he knows now that man will explore it and i was just like did nobody explain to him that like this shit came from outside of our solar system so it'll just happen again anyway like this is just inevitable regardless and besides the guy you guys have survived it you can tell humanity how dangerous it is and how blah blah blah but they needed a character to be the one that was like no we need to blow everything up expanse will still do it it doesn't fall fully into the nihilism shades of gray uh post modern storytelling it definitely leads into it a lot but it still brings out like bad guys who are just evil i mean and in the books and i don't need to sympathize with every one of my bad the whole episode where they somehow because of the zero g thing got knocked into a position where they're both trapped by a tractor thing on either end of it that shit was so stupid like i appreciate that want to get into the scenario with these two are forced to talk to each other for an extended period of time and then figure out which one should sort of you know be knocked out for the other and there's nice bits of dialogue here and they find out a lot about both of them and stuff but i was just like this scenario is so dumb like they apparently were talking to each other in the hallway and then they got blasted to a point where they fell on either side of a tractor wedged against two other things i want to try using that crane to catch the the glass phone that was really dumb too your voice has also become tizm again i've done nothing i'm just unplugged it i don't plug it back in you just don't do it neither quotes now i'm i'm not going to change it i'm not going to fix it you'll sound dumb as hell man wait you like i said it's really easy you should be able to just unplug it from the base of the yati and plug it back in it should take like a second i did that to fix it last time when i haven't talked since then and it did it again um yeah just gary quickly what was supposed to take on that scenario sorry it was it was a little ridiculous but i liked it because at the it brought us a good end at the end they tipped their little drinks and but it was a little i thought it was a little non-expansy but the end of season three kind of really shifted but i'd like to know if it had a bit more um she get it looks like she almost kills herself but then you find out oh no it's just her legs and then you go oh no it's not actually that even she gets like robotic legs that just fix it you're like oh oh yeah i remember that yeah she's lying in the bed and then she's like oh hook me up it's like okay i'm gonna walk down cool like a big deal about bleeding and she took over and she does bleed in zero g for ages and it doesn't which they make a big deal that it's like you know a death sentence regardless of like the wound well because you didn't see it so at that point uh drummer she shifts from being parts of ashford parts of sam two parts of bull so at that point she has her little accident like bull had his accident and he had to walk in these mech legs in the book so they kind of gave that to her but uh in the book uh she so drummer plays an amalgamation of three characters and two of those three characters well actually no all three of those characters die so everybody thought especially when she got the legs and that yeah that was kind of weird that they didn't have her die although her character remains alive in the books but she wasn't really in the adaption so they drew gordon said this is nitpicking uh the scenario makes it sort of a command of the biggest most important ship inside the rig changes to somewhat else like i don't think that's a nitpick that is a massive effect on the actual plot and this is the thing i actually enjoy the way it goes because i actually really like ashford and i find them interesting and i like the conversation but god damn you couldn't have done that in any other way like i would have accepted that they were standing still and there was the tractor thing in the background and then they both like because of zerg flew into like a wall and it but it just crashed out on them instead of having i don't even know how it happened what they were on either end of it and they both ended up on against wedged it's not even a wedged against the wall it's wedged against other things just have like debris or machinery fall on top of that but then gravity well it comes back or i don't know it's just like how do they find themselves in that the ship loses its gravity and it's it has to they have to spin it uh uh because the gravity in the expanse is all based on like the motion of the ship so if it's it's it's in flight in space and it's moving there is gravity on the ship uh depending on how the ship is orientated uh and that's why i've got a i have a rosenate right next to me and it flies upright uh so people can you know walk in and stuff it's it got damaged so the but they have a drum so the giant Mormon ship has a thing that's all after the uh it's all after the accident though that yeah the accident that that's kind of they tried to make it go down the way it did in the book and it kind of did i like it i like creating the gravity out of spinning it i just like i said i was the whole because it lost the whole episode doesn't it the them being trapped the scenario i just kept being like how is how it uses the arm and it shorts out i was like oh how unlucky for you oh god i just want to watch this now just laugh at it yeah um i don't know that that's it as a whole i don't like i said i don't hate it or anything i just um i didn't really get it like upon finishing the three seasons i was like well that was that i guess like meh um we're definitely like i could i totally get that if people are invested in the team of the rosenate that should be enough to just carry the whole show at that point like you wouldn't need anything else and yet there's still lots of things i actually like i said i really like the idea of the the belt being almost its own nation after enough time that once you colonize mars naturally once enough years have passed mars will see it as it's it's the exact same thing as britain to america right it's like wait we are our own nation fuck earth that sort of thing even though earth are like hey you're all earthers and it's like no we're not and you get that i really like the whole like you know in the martian marines team there's the guy who has earth parents or whatever who's i think was it he was born on earth and he came there straight away to live on mars and they don't really trust him just because he's from earth yeah is that the mastery just because you he's a born and that's the thing i love all that stuff and i just i think there's an amazing show in there i don't think they really who knows maybe if they do get picked back up and they go full thrall we'll get a show that just gets stronger and stronger is it i don't know it gets bigger and better how the amazon is uh picked them up so that's a good sign prime have some more stuff i was there was wrong the expanse movement i um i went live the night it got it got canceled on a thursday night at like midnight my time 11 30 my time and it's actually my first video that did well i went live right then and at the time i had uh i think three four hundred subscribers uh yeah did really well it was great um we did this whole movement and they flew planes over amazon and it saved the show it was really cool what do you think of babel on five um i haven't seen enough i watched it here and there when it was on and i liked it i love michael jay strasinski but i haven't seen it all the way through it's why i put that one on your list mr you pretty much seen like everything seem as well just throw it on there um i thought more i thought more like sci-fi guess not it won't give you the do i have to like the expanse in fairness maybe he meant like the sci-fi channel does anyone like the sci-fi channel i well no one did i know but also yeah i like fast i don't know i want to give him a little and i like babel on five i like plenty of sci-fi that's what it's fucking say you neglect to say babel five i'm gonna fucking kill you i've never watched babel on five what i i referenced babel on five i think in part two my tlj critique and i got so many comments for people saying oh my god you've seen babel on five it's like there's a there's a like babel on five fans that they're out there they just they hide in beneath there's a cult waiting for their time to talk about babel on five they're like i'm ready just yep and uh yeah that'll get remade someday and everyone will hate it it'll be great just like buffy's getting a remake you you know about that right gary yeah i do oh just me and you will be covered out with that coming back when's it coming out oh i don't know if it's green light yet i thought that it was but they were right in the script still like for everything as far as i know joel sweden producing and the this is like i don't know who it was but some gill is writing it and she's great so he's going to produce it and he's going to go on twitter and defend it for the next 10 years after it comes out and nobody likes it who knows what's gonna happen can't wait run by the showrunner of a show called midnight texas and uh that is a bad show um i say it's not going to be done after all so i see conflicting articles here just leave it alone yeah i know right just leave it alone make something else just do something else it's like so i didn't say something i don't know i let you say just do something else for that for you but say something go all right we're all trying to feel each other out here not in a well me too kind of way so we're all guys here i don't know uh mauler if you follow nicholas brandon zander at all oh yeah his facebook yeah he's he needs the work maybe he can come back for it poor guy yeah he could have a cameo as well as the thing with people like is it going to be a reboot they're like no it's like well it you can't be the same character right it's like nope like what the hell is it it's like i don't know yeah it's like it's just like the the trailer for the new terminator it's like what is it apparently it's in continuity it's like how do you guys i'm not going to splurge it out here but do you guys know what happens in like the first five minutes in that movie oh go ahead and spoil it i'm up for that anyone in chat if you was wait do you know it right herminator yeah the herminator uh will yeah it'll make a lot of harm in hand is that what we're called it when i hear i'm sorry when i hear herminator i think hermaphrodite and that's i wasn't gonna hear but just like a bad name here but there's a timid it's sorry boy and girl can be here when i hear hermaphrodite yeah wolf is a strange man wait so you know what happens in in the opening of the film is everything yeah the spoilers do you want to why don't you want to tell us tell us i want to know well uh here i'll you know what i could message it in i think most of chat will want to know there'll be some people in chat who don't probably i don't plug your ears if you don't want to hear it i four three two one uh so right after herminator two uh they they john connor and sarah go down i believe mexico and then another t-800 shows up out of nowhere and kills john connor right there it's like they couldn't figure out you come out they could ruin terminator more after jenny so they're like well what if we just killed john so basically they're all they couldn't be both i know edwin furlong isn't returning to that no that's it okay i don't know for good reason but but what's the likelihood of this being true is this completely confirmed or pretty likely uh it's what's funny is i read the leaks for the predator i read it with wolf and we were laughing so hard i was like this is real i think it was real i know oh so they're just completely so you can't kill john that's not something you can do so they're banking on the success and the fandom of terminator one and two because they're the only good ones and to all of that they're just gonna kill the character that this being the whole center of the fucking films in the first five minutes okay really out of the box thinking there i think uh and guys you weren't supposed to use terminator three as a bar for how to do worse any other details it gets worse it gets worse okay so it gets worse killing john connor at the beginning yeah because once he's killed that all of a sudden it makes a new savior because you can just it's a mantle you can pass down so that means that the entire terminator series is useless then well so john connor becomes a myth you know i got it i said i said genesis couldn't kill terminator mocks that deleted them this actually would be is this worse to delete them to take them this genuinely sounds worse than terminator genesis and i thought that was worse than the last jedi and the Arnold Schwarzenegger you see in in the movie is the t-800 that killed john connor in the beginning aged and he feels bad and he wants to hell no no no no no you're fucking me no this can't be real no no no no you're fucking you're pulling my leg you're fucking you're taking me for a ride no um there is uh yeah there's a couple videos on the subject feels bad man listen i'm not gonna say i do no more video evidence no i don't want to live on this planet anymore so in other words um all of the terminator series is now utterly pointless the entire purpose of terminator one and two is thrown out the way this is awful stop doing this can we just stop can we just stop we've already killed it enough can we stop pretending these films have any when is this out no when is this film is at the end of this year oh jesus christ i can't this might be our first collab video because i'm gonna be furious about we're gonna go through star wars and this in the same year me and alex are going to watch terminator one two three four and five before seeing this one just to know how bad no no no i guess oh my like oh fuck the temptation to steer into traffic on the way to the cinema i don't this is what it means like why is everyone competing to make the worst written story ever now obviously why why don't you just start fucking just doing fucking you know shitty crossovers like an alien versus terminator or whatever why don't you just start doing that at least that will be fucking they'll laugh at it i feel when avp feels like a good film oh Jesus yeah oh this is horrible is that it is that all the horrors are you done uh yeah that's pretty much that they run around and fight a ghost writer terminator and oh god another ghost writer is that just is that just pop of the course i play ghost writer and age is the shield he's the terminator still going to have nick cage can i still laugh at that i feel if nick cage was the terminator i would love this i was talking about ghost the guy the guy who plays ghost writer and age is the shield is the terminator in the hermitator movie um oh yeah that he looks like i didn't look like there's already pewee herman there's pewee herman memes out there who wrote this who who wrote this shit and why i don't know who wrote it but tim miller deadpool director is directing it and james cameron produced it but james cameron produced a lot of shite so you also you also promoted terminator genesis that traitor yeah honestly it doesn't matter if like a famous director produces anything it's it's not a it's not a good sign well it can go both ways i think there's like me too i just out him the people hang over his head you know i just i just look back at when the trailers for prometheus came out and it was like the original alien director is coming back and we're gonna get a prequel film and we're gonna explode i was just like okay oh you want to get really set oh my god how many writers okay it's written by james cameron charles h egley josh freeman david s goyer who sucks justin rhodes and jave david s goyer is doing the script so they're all the people who are writing the new terminator this is a committee of writers uh that's always a reassuring thanks for picturing your own story james no it's not it's not it's not james's story it never was anyone uh was it well you ripped off halloween ellison he ripped off halloween ellison i'm just saying it what's that and and i have no mouth and i must scream halloween ellison votes uh he came up with a plot for terminator then james cameron uh cameron son james james cameron son i can't remember his name what the f**k are you talking about cameron singin a man called james ripped off another man i'm just gonna say yeah and at the end of terminator one now because me and me and i saw that s**t we did remember it being there was it says like with acknowledgments to halloween ellison's work or something like that in the credits because it's like they got in trouble for it i believe yeah well halloween ellison f**k i can't say it anymore halloween ellison um did uh well he did try taking james cameron to the court and to sue him for plagiarism because the plot of the terminator the first one now um is well basically um straight up ripped from one of his short stories was and oh carlin ellison made a career out of that after that he became a star witness for all plagiarizing cases and he would he would read your script to see if it was plagiarized for a fee really five thousand dollars yes yeah your story that's interesting i didn't know that yeah but if i read short stories read read uh i have no mouth and i must scream horror fuel trust me harlan any hp lovecraft story uh that's horrible though why haven't you made a video on that yet gary we'll have you on on the harlan ellison thing no the timidator thing well the the the new you know i i was freaking doing uh i was i think it was traveling and then game of thrones took over my life i should have done five videos in that so i'm gonna wait till the movie comes out but uh it's it's gonna be awful i really should have made a video on that i need more time i got stuff to work on did i i've only recently finished the first draft now of my game of thrones episode five video i've still got a sixth one to do and then all of tfa these people released in these shitty fucking terminators equals hang the fuck on because i can't not cover timidator that's like my baby i love those yeah if you come to the preta it's gonna be the terminator too uh as well and if you destroy robo cop again i mean the last one was pretty bad but i've never refused to watch didn't i only watched it once left to go everything about it and it was boring it was terrible yeah i just watched the original because how often do we say that these days it's freaking genius yeah i love it when is when is the just so i have a a time frame of how much they're gonna be depressed for the next six months when is the news i believe it is november night november first oh great so like in star wars in december so apparently it's 25th of october for you died kingdom well i was gonna say like i can check out the last two months of this year and just you know forget my life this is oh geez why i like i love how terminator three said uh sarah kona died and john kona's carry on with his legacy and people were annoyed at that and now this film is like oh yeah okay so you guys wanted john kona dead and sarah kona to carry on we're like no all i remember what i was first talking about this movie was how it was like uh we're gonna nuke uh every film after t2 you guys will love that and it's just like we'll hate you too like why do you think you're gonna be special you can ignore all the crap ones but if you just start off with a crap plot fred from the beginning it's not gonna work it's just gonna repeat new why you're gonna make new mistakes oh man well we got until 25th of october for me to do every video i need to do four months great yeah get on with it um but yeah if everybody's good to go we've now got a couple videos possibly worth looking at the gary yeah you haven't even paused the video yet i know the way this works is you follow this link and then you end up in a little browser thing that allows you to see videos at the same time as us i believe you're familiar with this from the last time i spoke to you that's when we uh talked about uh buffy and angel or she was great yeah we're gonna look at funny pandas epic laughs so oh well there's three videos that are potential for a roster one that's been massively requested and i don't know if we'll get to it today massively massively uh and then the other two game of thrones related but i think we have to start with uh i haven't actually seen this so it could be good could be good could be clickbait but it's titled no get no not the fucking panda uh it's tight it's entitled uh god damn it the though game of thrones fans you don't deserve better which is are you sharing it now i think i see it um and for some reason the thumbnail has dnd in it which implies to me that oh oh no oh boy i already don't like it i don't know who this man is but i hope this is a well-reasoned video i don't like the face i don't like the fact that there's not a space between the three periods and you i don't like the fact that he's got a lost Jedi on the poster oh no i didn't see that but oh lord i don't like his face i don't like his hair i don't like the video you're a bigot let the man i don't like his caterpillar eyebrows no no i'm not doing this caterpillar eyebrows he's gonna show me come on let's do we didn't deserve better guys i know this might be a little off-brand but today i really want to rant and therefore i'm going to be talking about game of thrones do we have to watch this if you're like 10 years old and watch me for my disney content just be wary because i'm about to fuck oh boy he almost said a swear word that's a race i'll do that i mean she missed your oh god he's he's one of those stupid uk people no wonder i'm sorry okay we're not all perfect most of us are not all i don't know if this is just me but for last month my youtube feed has been filled with people a lot of jury shows an angry show apparently oh man my video's not in there at all i might not what the hell damn we didn't make the cut guys you all you god you all failed get out we need to we need to up our game but i probably bought this on myself after the battle of winter fell i started watching a few and was like yeah they make some really good but i'm still getting them like it's been a few weeks now guys can we just move on and start zooming on your face you're already ugly enough oh my god you made you did the meme it's like why are we still talking about this spider man's coming off i know why are you talking about it then why did you make a video why did because he's telling everyone to stop talking about it okay it's totally i just love the idea that everything comes with us like a talk by date like stop talking about it we've passed the date yeah guys it's spider man's coming out next week in it come on really is someone was like actually intended to say that there someone asked if he was on speed maybe he probably has sped himself up i don't know it's it this feels very classic youtube vlog where it's like hello everybody welcome to the video just like okay there's not a lot of eastern i think well you know anything that makes you faster one because i want to get a million views like everyone else i just want one big video it's been so long i guess here's my i don't know maybe it's not gonna be a vlog saying guys shut up about game of thrones how did this video do i don't know sure we we cannot slow down because i want to get through this video as fast as we possibly i've got like an hour max before i i'm gonna cave in and eat i'll need to eat so all right we can we can it'll be great no don't don't don't rush for me just yeah let's rush rush for the him that this video better 1000 views like you know it's been rushed when they somehow make anakin skywalker turning to the dark side look drawn out they're just cannot thinking it wasn't that bad like it could have been so much worse i know that it wasn't that bad it could have been so much worse that's a really great compliment for the show well we can't have a set of his video and it's not my argument yet come on you know i'm honestly trying to figure out how it possibly could have been worse i'm i'm curious about this way have you not seen um the subredo well i did not see the subredo when they were making friends about how it could have been worse like they were just like i'm one of the most wackiest plots that are still like you know in universe i'm not just talking about like you know like you know they're all aliens and stuff like i mean like you know genuine bad plot friends i would rather have had every character just explode out of nowhere we can we can read them out like layer what does he would achieve saying like yes this could be worse like congratulations it's not the worst thing on this planet okay well it's like celebrating coming second in the boxing fight isn't it it's you know he sounds like a girl it's like he came in second and a lot of things maybe last uh oh and i'm just noticing he has a last jedi i know yeah yeah red full arguments used to defend anything but i guess what i'm trying to say is that it isn't deserving of the abuse it's currently getting is it not i i i what we're talking about when we're covering abuse so we're talking about like you know the abuse that the actors oh well let's let it play then let's let's see his examples of abuse well even youtube comments in e so we know it's oh well actually no we're standing in a show ever made possibly and how good an ending is often based on what what it's ending right like if we had a really bad show that had a bad ending it's just like yeah it's a bad ending but this one like yeah like we're setting a show on me so let's stop his face what is that i couldn't understand him did he say he has watched the show all along or just recently picked it up or i don't know i don't think it'll you know i'm looking like really longingly at my switch and just thinking of mario karting for the entire rest of the video because i don't know i can do this this guy's terrible god let's just see his will it terribly cherry pick comments in what do you guys do what is you guys's pick for worst ending to a tv show ever well i i say this is someone who doesn't really watch many well i guess i can't really say anything because i don't watch many tv shows it's other thing because like well the problem is is that i love tv shows that i think are bad i don't watch them till the end so it's hard to i mean i've seen a lot of shows and badly i still think in reference to what it's ending game of thrones is possibly the worst ending to a show ever made it destroyed everything i have ever seen but i i say this is someone who's watched like 10 to 15 shows ever so well it's just like yeah like quality from like you know the start of it you know to its you know slow decline to its very steep you know drop off like from season seven onwards or ever um everyone chat saying lost and dexter i i still think this is worse than lost and dexter lost wasn't bad for a lot of people lost wasn't good game of thrones was good and i you know well if i think watching 10 or 15 shows in your lifetime that's a lot that's that's probably the average well in terms of like how many shows are out i mean it's one thing like movies they're way more easily digestible i've seen hundreds of movies i've seen only a little bit more than a dozen if that shows so i don't know if my opinion will really hold much ground here it's the worst ending ever based on how it began yeah that's kind of where i'm sure i don't think that's abuse or undeserved abuse but let's continue show ever made you see what i mean i feel like that's a little far season eight was a total mess and disappointment pure unadulterated trash perfect example of defeat snatched from the jaws of big totally disregarded character arcs is better rating than the first three we're just like complete wines but is he going to actually argue this now well let's let's find out i don't know where he's going with this apparently i'm just waiting for him to justify the title of this video that's all i'm after he's ever made into an mtv crib's big brother episode i'm not sure zoom in again it's not argument look it's it's i've talked to jay about this zooming in it's like the easy way to be like i'm an editor look i zoomed in you're like well done man well done i should know how to use the option in sony vegas it's funny you just you're you're hating don't hate that's funny i like it creating a villain in the last two episodes exactly that's the entire review nonsense writing tried so hard and being unpredictable ended up betraying seven seasons someone wrote a negative review in another language therefore that review is in what what i don't know it was supposed to be funny i think it's just another language it's still a negative review i don't know what it says but that's not an argument you can't just read something in a different language and then say you're wrong because i don't understand it i mean he hasn't even commented on the really like what he has he's not done an argument yet and also this is a pretty pretty pretty good use of the amount of words this has you know right so being unpredictable ended up betraying the whole seven seasons story plot and character rocks completely what a loss like yeah i agree with that what a loss season seven really wasn't that great either guys oh i'm fucking because season seven was bad season they can't be that bad yeah there you go yeah because we're all different season seven that's that's what we're doing did you know guys you were watching a shit show two years ago well honestly the when i first made tweets about like how bad the season was some of the first responses were like oh so you think it's only bad now it's like when did i say that when did i mention that we're tough we're just talking about season eight that does it yeah like how old is this kid it did three fifteen i mean it sounds like a you know it wasn't it wasn't alive when the box first came out let's first care about this that's probably true yeah season seven in fairness i wasn't i don't think yeah but you're a you're a beautiful young man i know i'm not i'm really ugly that's racist don't say that about wolf you'll beat you up disaster eight season alone spoiled seven years of devotional watching i don't think i'd now recommend got to anyone shame big shame i just the final season doesn't make any worse as it does okay yes it does there is a big like hey uh i had to update the game there are the updates on the switch were pretty pretty fast from what i've heard from online like yeah that that was like a second log okay i've seen people say like people complain of ps4 updates all the time which are very valid i've not heard much about switch updates and i've heard that they have lots of updates but they're very quick it took forever for all these games to install because you can't play a game while installing a game like steam so all right right yay don't don't compare it to a pc it's not a pc um i know it's not a pc i have mario car i'm happy let him believe it's a pcl come on just sit in the corner sucky fun and play your mario games like the the idea that a bad later season has no effect on early seasons is bullshit um every scene that builds up the white walkers is now kind of funny like watch watching all of this foreboding dialogue and all the scenes where they're just walking that you just see them you're like oh god look at them he's like oh yeah i can't wait for i had to just stab one of them and it's all over they only get as far as winter fell it's kind of like you just watching they're almost fast forwardable now and you might be like well you can watch hard home that's fun it's a better finale for the the white walkers that anything in season eight and then you get stuff like jamie like watching any of jamie's progress is kind of annoying now same for danny anytime you see a quote from danny such as i don't want another child's bowed and laid at my feet that line didn't age well really didn't no i'm kidding by the way that's an actual line that's not like a frame of mind she has she says that one for one i think it's season five um painful painful to to watch the old stuff me and wolf watched the wall episode it's just it's annoying yeah like halfway through the episode i i said i can't even enjoy this anymore because i know in the wall episode is awesome i totally agree i was doing some of that when i was doing reviews and it was very hard to watch the old stuff now it's uh damage the old content unfortunately no intention to read the books and now well i've bought and am reading the books and they are long guys i've been reading like an hour a day for three days and i've only just got the branding thrown out the tower not only that's like four chapters in how did you take hey man he's a slow read yeah he took four hours to get to chapter it's like 40 it's like not even 40 pages that i don't do you think somebody who reads fucking comments or fucking youtube or whatever for a living is really like you know handling well reads books for a living i don't why okay well that's worth doing to him why why do you have two copies of a storm of swords why is the clash of kings first where is the game of thrones no no you wait you're right yes oh what is that steel it's no what and what is this that that is the uk edition where they have been split up and he has cables in his hand that's why he's not in yeah i was gonna say he's reading game of thrones probably why i know this because i have the exact same copy but i say the exact same copy i have the exact same um edition present themselves as a possible alternate ending to the series if he ever finishes them i'm also just enjoying diving deeper into the lore before the spin-offs and prequel series you see that well i just that is basically oh shit metaphors he paused the video you can't do that oh my god this is like when sammy classic sonic fan and and it is like screaming rant video by more screaming rants but over a picture congratulations you're on par with sammy classic this is unprecedented the subject of the e-fap has paused the video i didn't even know it was possible because it's deep into the lore before the spin-offs and prequel series you see that what that is basically a tutorial on how to respect where how to speak with retard you how dare you wolf he's he's teaching us how to respect really criticize stuff he's having this big moment give me a second you know what i'm saying it is big moment is gone before the spin-offs and prequel series you see that what i just did that that is basically a tutorial on how to respectfully criticize while also present an interest in an alternate ending of the time wow i'm gonna change my channel fundamentally now thank you seriously me blurring your ass you didn't fucking say anything you just read with the comments he's teaching us and you guys are just not listening he's teaching us how to do it he read a bunch of fucking paper thin commons zoomed in three times for dramatic effect or whatever the fuck that was and now oh that's how you respectfully show the story fuck off i like how we're both doing one and a half million people signing a petition for them to remake season eight with competent writers in power with competent writers i should talk like this guy more often i just use this as my babbling retard voice i just love it whatever someone says do you really think the petition it's gonna lead to to like the re-making the show like yes i think everyone everyone who signed it thought that it would do that everybody every last person who signed it people are calling him uh in the chat they're calling him lispy queer lispy bastard we'll get put it off oh god why is this skipping around who's doing that uh not me for one summer to be made like being a fan of something doesn't give you ownership he's explaining why we don't deserve better to they deserve to have it remade the way they want it to be made like being a fan of something doesn't give you ownership of that thing that's not how it works i don't own our reactions either jesus pointless arguments like you don't you're not entitled to get what you want it's like okay i didn't think i was when when did i say that i am entitled to bitch about it absolutely later yep and then because it's not it's not legitimate criticism oh shit i'm trying to kind of be compared what are my rules as a youtuber is that no one can ever tell me what kind of videos i have to make fans of my videos can suggest like this and i personally know what would do best among my audience if people think my content is changed hey you start this video saying how you're desperate to chase and if that like you know if you count high again and now you're like lecturing people you know being told how to make videos come on baby i mean the whole like i want to make a video that gets lots of views like so it's not about making a video that you want okay me what can make it's my content it's free so you don't get to make the demand and what i guess is that i blame brexit for this different when you're paying for something and therefore have a right to be annoyed oh i like i like that you have to make the concession there it's like youtube and hbo out the same because you actually have to pay for the game of throats so rip oh no so so if there's an entrance fee to consume something criticism becomes valid actually well no he's not gonna say that but i like the idea say for example you buy a meal and it's not cooked it's like you have every right to be like hey i paid for this it's fucked up how does that translate to a tv show you'd be like well you just don't like the right it's like no the writing it was half baked undercooked rushed i demand my money back this is not the tv show i beg you cook better such a great argument i'd love it the chef said that why do you go make a steak piece of shit it needs you to do it impressive how i'm i'm quite replete how he's got 300k subs i'm gonna look into that yeah he's got 300 000 subs it doesn't make what happened wrong and therefore you wrong ah an interesting word wrong like morally wrong doesn't make what happen wrong and therefore you can't claim it should have been better i don't imagine what what what do you mean why why not explain yourself person being a fan of a team that plays football let's say wildfire i know and therefore you buy a ticket to go to one of their games but your team loses that game meaning you didn't enjoy it with this logic you would necessarily mean you didn't enjoy it okay okay okay because this little dick weasels never watched a football game in his life um real real real example from a real footy fan quote unquote um a team called arsenal consistently don't live up to their expectations based on their financial power and their position in the league they consistently don't win the league and consistently get knocked out of all the cups and fans pay in the premier league the english league those fans pay the most for the tickets because arsenal charged the most uh for ticket prices and they consistently bitch about it because they pay for all the players and their salaries and they never get anything out of it are they entitled to do that the answer is yes yeah yeah i don't even want to i don't even want to care to entertain this little shit argument well is he aware that um what's a real so like they're real events happening and there's no no one pulls the strings aware that the narrative the passion of the fans you can fuck off too because i'm not i'm not listening to that either this is a stupid argument in the first place because it's a total false equivalence like a narrative-based show and a sport are nowhere near the same thing you pay to see the event the event could go anyway that's what he's trying to make the argument for but writing a story like if okay so if you went to the correct analogy would be you pay to go and see football and then they're doing basketball you know like what what is this i didn't pay for this ticket this is the not this is not the right game yeah and the equivalent would be i paid for a fucking ending to game of thrones what you've just done is just create this nonsense fan fiction that spits on everything oh i need a pizza it's the wrong result and write a petition to have the game replayed do you see how ridiculous that sounds it is yeah your analogy is ridiculous but he pointed it out so i don't know how many people sign the petition as a genuine attempt to get hbo to do that dylan no one's well okay fine i'm sure there's someone who thought it would help but no i never thought that hbo would do anything but it's a nice message people if if the fact if the chat didn't know um some group of fans did try making a petition for you to write or rewrite game of thrones mauler and i bet all of them were completely 100 yeah they knew what happened hbo would see that be like yep i hate yeah they should fly a jet over to you and they should roll up the carpet and you know like you know get down on well bend the knee and say please maulow show us how to write come on there were large numbers of people who were disappointed with the ending like the movie of all time and as a way to add pulling backs jumped around when you say that oh well oh we've jumped really far how did this happen how do i think were we went with the ending i don't really have a problem with that you don't like something you have every right to criticize it in a way that a football fan would criticize their team for not playing well you can write a negative review or a fan fiction saying how you think it should have happened instead i can't stress this enough i'm not a hypocrite for critics all right if you don't if you don't like the show's ending write your own fan fiction great mate wait he's got a video that says crimes of grimoire is a bad film what does a bad film mean sir that mean hmm also did it just jump again you did yeah it's just a hang on is anyone like using the arrow keys on their keyboard at all and thanks i mean it jumps around a bit everyone's a while is everyone on 441 right now scary am i yes i am okay good on 441 i'm guessing wolf is hunting for a pizza probably yeah i'm i'm on 41 too every right to criticize it in a way that a football fan would criticize their team for not playing well you can write a negative review or a fan fiction saying how you think it should have happened instead i can't stress this enough i'm not a hypocrite for criticizing things and also complaining about people doing seemingly the same thing like i for example just over a year ago made a video discussing why cars 2 is my least favorite movie of all time and as a way to add some flair to the video i snapped a dvd in hall this was a skit he's crazy somebody got this man a straight jacket holy moses i like that he had to imagine he probably thought that was crazy that he did that i remember oh man do you remember when the last year i came out and people were like with burning lamb roast teego dolls and all that like you know fuck you disney but i was like but you bought it you bought the doll anyway so you they've already won i'd like didn't and and there's people who are like flushing Gillette products down the toilet and burning them because of that i don't know it is it's like i don't know what i know i know it's the message i know yeah i barbecued uh star trek discovery season one but it was from a super chat and it was requested oh well i mean if somebody gave you money to do that and you didn't care about well melting the dvd or ever then fuck it go for it you know what they're really hard to melt the case melt uh the dvd did not and i had it over the fire had lighter fluid on it and everything and uh they're pretty they're pretty solid yeah too bad they didn't have those music masters on them do you guys hear about the fire oh yeah and 2008 didn't they lie about how much was actually destroyed ah yeah yeah pretty much everything we lost everything oh you're sad in the video included to make a statement and for comedic reasons and therefore i don't think it was overly harmful for anyone involved i guess if the petition was purely made as a way to bring people together as a statement in hatred of gamer throne season that's okay why do you need to be an actual petition i don't know i guess they're inspired by the success of the last jedi petition right well of course he's got closer to the background of it um yeah many many fans well so obviously game of thrones is like you know the most what was the most watched tv show like ever yeah like you know viewership and then yeah as disappointing of an ending it was there's a lot of fans you know who were pissed off not all of them and not and i'm not none of them but there were a lot and how better to voice in unison or as a collective that you're pissed off with the show well they're not all going to go outside fucking d&d's house i'm talking like they live together they're not going to go outside their house and pitch with pitchforks and go write a better show what if like that no and like most people you know most people when it comes to well petitioning anything they're lazy and they just literally want to click side yeah we go i've voiced my opinion and this is what well hundreds of thousands of people did what else you want from them and then obviously he's going to reference the last jedi now because you know i bet he's going to make fun too and then what did he think they were going to get a new film as well oh i don't know i don't i really don't know anything they deserve something to okay wait apparently we need to go how is it jumping so far ahead watch together is misbehaving today i really don't know i swear it's like somebody's like hitting a keyboard but it's not me and well we know it's not you will get in the video and he's just trying to worthless pizza hunter he's just he's just he's just clicking on it go come on hurry up and therefore i don't think it was overly harmful for anyone involved i guess if the petition was purely made as a way to bring people together as a statement in hatred of gamer throne season eight that's okay why i needed to be an actual petition i don't know i guess they're inspired by the success of the last he just follows on it like how else would they have done it then like how else would everyone come together to show their collective hate for the show i don't know what they like like you can write emails you can write emails or letters to hbo but they don't you know they don't get a visual the point is that it's a visual feedback with how many people who would join it because assuming well you're going on there you know there's something there's no bottle evolved or anything because nobody's that sad to like get a bot sign of the petition for that anyway hopefully not i imagine every petition for the success will probably have some i know i know there's always going to be yeah but the point is you know that you know it's not russia gate you know they're not fucking pumping millions of votes into it to disrupt something what else does he want honestly i don't know i guess he's just trying to say it's it's ultimately what would he be ultimately pointless i guess it's what he's trying to say if everyone went on to hit onto tour and then just abused all the actors and actresses what would you do with it would that be better no he's just he wants to complain about it he doesn't know what i'm going to hear yeah his argument going like i don't even know where the hell he's going he's going somewhere to the point yeah we don't deserve this does the length of the video not imply to you that this is a video that he was just like i'll throw some shit together i don't know i gotta make it over that it is almost exactly 10 minutes that's true even if it was stood up as a statement rather than a serious petition there would still be thousands upon thousands of people who signed it believing something could come of it believe what is actually wrong with that by the way like hoping something would actually change i think that's fair if someone was like yeah i hope it actually sends a message because i'd really like the characters to get the endings they deserve but this guy's like idiot they're like yeah it'd be cool if that somebody actually did that once or if we get you know maybe like disney sees the reaction uh on the internet from just the the hint of spider-man four and maybe they go out and you know this is why a lot of things come back you know uh yeah you know we got a firefly movie out of a lot of people coming together and obviously sonic is changing up the design after yeah yeah um fucking family guy got resurrected like like five times you got a family guy you sound like my mouth sorry again cool i'm gonna leave it all right i ain't fixing shit as long as you can hear as long as you don't stand the item carryable how does it keep jumping ahead thousands upon thousands of people who signed it believing something could come of it believing they deserve something to come of it like here's a sample of some oh that deserves an interesting word all right well he's just straggling out of his fucking ass now because i assume some of them probably have strange intentions and i'm going to criticize those theoretical people you're like okay well there's a straw man in 101 he's just picking up fucking a nameless voiceless name person less person just going oh yeah how dare they deserve it who said they deserved it like if there was like a big youtuber who was making videos on it saying the fans deserve better then you could quote somebody else or something but he's literally taking the fucking petition oh this is this is almost as weak as the fucking our hollywood reporter survey thing yep i now i want to make a video saying i deserve a better camera on season eight i personally they need to deliver one to my house i almost want to make a straw poll for yes who thinks they deserve better season yeah do we deserve a better season yes the petition we need sir georgia or martin to complete what he's doing and according to his orders the season should be done again it's not too late to do the right apparently he got no this is somebody just you know well treating him like a god or whatever right thing as it's not going to happen it's not rude or ridiculous to sign the petition our opinions matter we are the ones who buy this is a really long comment but what about the fuck did you start reading it he's pulling him out at random while he's doing his video apparently like oh it's long damn yeah i'm starting the petition because i started a binge almost a month ago and have gotten too far into the series to be let down i don't want these two anywhere near star wars either this was abysmal but i thought ryan johnson ran star wars already or is that how do you know that guy feels that way it doesn't matter if ryan johnson ruined star wars they can ruin it as well yeah i think it's anything we've learned with predator alien and terminator is ruining it isn't something you can only do once you can do it again and again and again you can be killed a million times it's like i could say i get hired by disney and i hated star wars i could be like i'm gonna make an episode called episode 6.5 and it takes place an hour after episode six and it'll just be ewoks running around and and and fucking just just just beating up all of the main characters for no reason and then they all run away crying and everyone's like what is this movie and i'm like this is canon well he's doing the same augmentation as uh he did earlier where oh season seven was bad so why would you care if season eight was bad it's just not great nice mate played just forgotten biggest let down in television history get better writers i unfortunately i had to watch this to know it needs redoing that made no sense which just to be clear you could set up a full on go fund me to pay the actors writers animators and everything and it still wouldn't happen for so many reasons one never has the petition like it's been successful if something has never happened before it never can that is that is true for everything right guys this is unfortunately he's already identified what the point of the petition was and now he's just literally going oh you're idiots you thought this was gonna be legit oh yeah like he's this whole portion of the video is responding to the theoretical people that think it'll make a huge difference that he's already admitted may very well not exist like i drag him up please go find these people who will literally believe in that petition i think it's gonna happen please go find one crush he's crushing my dreams right now i really thought it was gonna happen this is the big reveal i'd be really crushed by well my by the best of my 2019 with the fucking news about two minute yeah you've killed 2019 you're welcome very christmas start to claim all the internet hated on sonic enough for them to change his design and delay the movie why can't they do the same for season eight these are two completely different kinds of oh so it's yes i can't make this argument you've just admitted that the change can happen through public outcry yeah yeah and the sonic was a trailer or a teaser and then the game was literally the end of an eight year old show oh come on and never it could never happen except for the time it happened yeah but that's not the same because sonic is a hedgehog and this is about a chair he's compared it to like if they made a petition for like i don't say like oh i don't like that janey's hair is not this color it should be this color now make it you know come on one was the laughing stock of basically the entire world for a few weeks looks set to flop at the box office and therefore the measures taken seemed necessary the other while also being laughed at and attacked still achieved record viewing numbers ah there it is because people in the vest did you dip shit this is part of the problem people are watching it because they love it and now they're like oh this reminds me of the whole last jedi thing is like last jedi was bad did you see how much money it made it's like that's not an argument well that's it you should never the people who use are well you know if it's so bad how come so many people watch it or how come so many people play it it's always a terrible argument you should never use it it will it will never it is it's like when people don't do it like oh you know like oh gta 5 was a flop and it's like basically they're selling thing ever it's like but oh but it did but it's a bad game but that's not that was not your argument you were saying there was a flop oh come on the world of efeb is not aware of that i'll have to tell that i know i know we will we will have well it won't be tales of evap but it'd be tales of more or something it's funny though because we covered it the dad with thrust video that was gta 5 did it fail and it was like no no it is literally the best biggest selling piece of media ever yes nothing comes nothing beats it nothing did it fail uh there were 19.3 million viewers watching it as it premiered just in a minute gary have you heard this one where they go um the boycott slash criticism of captain marvel didn't work because it made over a billion dollars all the time isn't that a great argument it means that they knew premise like a wizard they knew that the only amount of money that captain marvel could make was capped at one billion and it made it so uh nothing it's it's amazing how they did that and the person who said i'm not going to go see it as a boycott their ticket never would have made it into that number anyway they would have been hit by a car that was always going to happen they were never going to make it and obviously the movie was good we were all wrong i mean it was just a good movie and uh it was the russian bots that convinced me that it was a bad movie transformers franchise towards anything good films make a lot of money that's it they do that's how it works you uh so i love that quote from our camel where he's like uh he's like says one for one it's like it doesn't matter if it's good it's about whether it makes money it's like that's like sporting event level views kind of not really i mean the point i'm trying to make is that they made their money so why would they feel we need to remake it just because a few fans were disappointed just a few fans he's pointed to you already pointed out in the open why can't people when they use fucking empirical evidence use empirical evidence this is a few fans like three it's like three disgruntled fans in a basement say it's already established the number that are here petitioned i'd like you know i like i don't know about anyone here but i didn't sign it and i fucking ate it so it's like you know this this i i'm gonna go on a bet and say there's like another probably thousands if not not millions but hundreds of thousands we'll go for that we're going for hundreds of thousands of fans who watched it hated it but they just you know they didn't get on the internet or anything to pitch about it they just went on with their lives you know but no no it's only a few it's only a few if each of these 1.6 million people just chose not to watch the episode they'd have definitely noticed the impact more i do get why people who knew they were going to hate it watched it anyway because well that's what being a fan is you've invested so much time and so many you know then you actually don't wear what a fan is i'm proud of him for making that argument because i i you've actually noticed that these people are human and they're actually invested if you already didn't like it why did you keep watching if you didn't like episode three why watch four if you didn't like episode four as well why watch five it's like what are you yeah i was like yeah you're not just gonna not watch the ending because you know you're not going to like it you want to know how it ends i guess that brings me to point to some fans actually did like the ending i already know that yes i like the acknowledges though it's the sum it's not the many it's like yes you're right if he dares dragging that hollywood rapport like i particularly fit into this group but i often find myself defending things that i think are getting overheated and therefore come off as if i love it and don't know the snow's ending was perfect on at me oof don't know that it was perfect where ever would forgot his lineage no one cared about it but they shoveled it off to the north okay where did you go i went to go get a pizza why i thought you ordered them we did well how did you well i didn't want to order it i didn't want to leave a tip so i go wow do you hear that guys stingy wolf not leave a tip if i if i don't want to tip that day then i'll just go pick it up myself wow i should tip for pizzas yes this is a weird american thing tipping for pizza like everything i know i know i used to work pizza delivery so yeah it's kind of nice no no no i'm not saying that you're wrong i'm not saying it's not good to get tips yeah i'm not saying that wolf i'm saying that in america's culture of tipping for every service imaginable is well it's it's frankly retarded but all right i mean i hear it's every needy they'll figure it in your bill now yeah i was gonna say it's it's almost i'm aware that you know people who work service level jobs in well america get ship pay and therefore can't you know well they have to if you're like a waiter or waitress you're making i know they i know they are all right all right well i'm off to bother turn it to be i make sure it's really well because i after working i'm sorry i mentioned it i'm sorry i mentioned it i wish i was alex was just lucky at the delivery is the the way it works in britain is typically the job wouldn't necessarily require it while in america it seems to me that the tipping is done so often that now jobs payment is almost accounted for tips they they underpay you because they know that the customers will cover it yeah and when i used to work delivery i mean i had to use my own car and that you're putting a lot of wear and tear on your car when you're doing that so those tips kind of factor into i i i i i told you i'm not i'm not criticizing you for being a pizza man it's all right i hope not but yeah no um i got out of there as soon as i possibly could but i know you don't want to finish this video i don't want to finish this video but we need to get wolf's take so he said john snow's ending was perfect what do you reckon excuse me oh well there there you go yeah we'll go get go get dips for that pizza you're gonna need it right i don't have dips but i often find myself defending things that i think are getting over hated and therefore come off as if i love it and i tried not to do that i really haven't succeeded however there are a lot of people probably not as many as those who hated it who really enjoyed the final season and therefore remaking it would be a complete insult no they can keep their tizamy season they can have it well they don't have to watch it in fact call the remake call the remake 8.5 do whatever call it the not eight season i don't really care let's talk hypothetically if hypothetically that season eight slash seven slash whatever seasons you want to remade got remade and you as a fan were satisfied with how it ended you don't have to watch it you can literally just carry on but if they did get remade or if the whole show got remade or they're just the one season and the fans who were left bitter and disgruntled about it they might well you know with with good will as well i think you know they could come back and try it but we know that's not gonna happen because it is a it is a very long stretch of a hypothetical but oh what the fuck is he going on with this what if they then make a petition we just get stuck in a never-ending loop which is why as a business this just wouldn't be a profitable decision for HBO not only would it make less money than the we get it but also you can't please everyone oh i love his argumentation it really just comes you can't please everyone is the most boring argument i've ever heard when it comes to media criticism he had the minds of contradicts himself with this and then i he's just leaving us with fucking platitudes what what is this you can't please everyone else the world psych is you explain why the fans don't deserve it is it is it because that they what retarded for thinking that petition would come for you oh my god that fucking i like to think that's his reaction to see a guest covering it yeah i just you know like i get you guys are criticizing this video but it was never going to please everybody so well he's certainly not going to get that million view hit again he's chasing unfortunately just because something you made wasn't popular with all your fans doesn't mean you should go back to square one and make it again i don't know maybe that's a good practice if i was writing a series of stories and the final one i released all i got like was like 90% like please don't let this be the end please do blah blah i would reconsider i'd be like oh how would you guys feel if i decanonized that last what i wrote and rewrote like i don't know i know it's like this is the thing i really think about this i mean i think we were talking about how shitty vx about movies are earlier but isn't that kind of what uh fox tried to do at first with uh first class and days of future past like retcon the shit i mean i i imagine that was just them being like we want to refresh our resources it's like we want to make young visions of everybody in retail stores we got plenty to work with at that point i don't think it was like a retcon it's almost treated as different timelines i don't like you know a couple other things do it but you know it is relatively unheard of you you would never i actually thought tlj would be one of the best times to finally do it like let's get a new tlj because you've missed out on so many things that you should have done and that story is completely garbage like it was great work by a lot of people who are involved like production stuff but keep the film remake it like it won't make money and you'll get reinvest the fans that have just now been completely pissed off and you know it never happened because i just don't expect it to because there's a lot of legal reasons probably a lot of uh i p reasons timing reasons and and actors and just there's so many things to redo that it's kind of a ridiculous concept and i think a lot of people would consider it like not a good bet like producers would be like remake it you can't do that like people won't be as interested because you know we we had our shot we've taken it you know remake um but yeah if we're going not from a perspective of money making and just a perspective of like integrity then yeah theoretically there should be a scenario where this is totally with good ideas good thing to do look at this entire summer and every sequel that we've had ever i mean they go back to the well to not think that you could go back to the well this early is ridiculous at this point why not i'm waiting for it to happen it probably has happened to some lesser degree with with maybe a lesser known thing but just try again why not why not tell me like why not just do it i made a video i've got loads of dislikes and hate comments i wouldn't set out to remake that video to prove the people who didn't like it wrong that doesn't even what in the world are you talking about oh no um your videos aren't your videos aren't a work of fiction or narrative they won't say well yeah but even if we treat us just an opinion piece right so if he said i don't know this thing is bad because of this reason then it turns out that reason was faulty so he re-releases a follow-up video to be like you know what i changed my mind on it completely that i've knew this i reaffirmed this blah blah blah like wouldn't that count yeah but again what a false equivalency like what the hell are you talking about redoing a youtube video that people do i mean i've seen people redo youtube videos yeah well if you well if you've been on youtube long enough and you do and you're like you know you kind of content is like vlogs and you're talking about like you know politics or ever you're bound to fucking change your opinion on something within like you know well a year five years ten years it's it's it's not well it wouldn't be down to fan outcry maybe you know fans would be like oh you're so wrong on this topic yeah you need to you need to research it more and then you research it and you're like oh actually yes you know i was wrong and this is now my new position on it oh whatever i would just move on and make other videos that are different to that video i'm just one person there are teams of people working on this show which number three believe it or not the people who work on the show are paid oh my god i don't want to hear about that whining god i just listened to the mcgill sapoknik interview and i like the guy but he got kept like they're working a freaking coal mine you were getting paid hundreds of thousands some millions to make a pretend show uh you were and uh and you were talking about how hard it was and you had to work at night oh i yeah so what also they were paid massively is almost the pocell with the sunglasses that bring me absolute shit in the back row no but he's just a guy who works on the show i guess but i like that comparison um yeah the idea that uh if you just had someone build you a house and they work day and day out in horrible condition but the the thing itself it just it just breaks the anxie didn't build it properly and then you're like this is fucking shit and he's like excuse me i worked really hard on this you're like okay what are you a person yeah i i'm so pleased for you but do it again and you know what this the funny scenario here is that you go like do the house again i will pay you again they're offended by that concept you're like what you've made money i don't know what not only does that mean the actors most notably who probably have other things they want to do with their lives rather they don't have to agree to do a remake the assumption is that everyone's on board you wouldn't slave them into it it's not even legal like what what is this he's gonna keep batting down that hypothetical until they're fucking well till he makes 10 minutes with a video i'm just waiting for him to make that comparison he's like go into these actors houses you kidnap them to make your show that's disgusting you'd be like um who are you talking to if you're gonna actually remake it i would start from the ground up and replace everybody or else you're gonna get the same turd oh you mean with the actually remade i would get new writers new directors everything i would keep the set you get the new actors and you bring if you're gonna actually remake it you do not remake it with the same people definition of insanity you will just get the same result and if you listen to that miguel i told you about it uh they were tired at the end that you could clearly hear that dan and david and the directors involved they only wanted to work with a certain amount of people they didn't want to bring in anybody new because they were familiar with them and all these people were f-ing tired and that's all they kept every person i hear in an interview we were so tired we were and and you can hear them making decisions in the interest of getting the f out of there um out a bunch of good stuff that they were going to put into the episode and uh when you consider the series he didn't like where they led her character jamey has expressed that he's disagreed with them at many turns tirion thinks tirion was stupid you know i'm just saying the names quickly obviously they have people names too um aya aya and her boyfriend thought it was stupid like when you collect all these up even the the actor for uran said he would have preferred to play the book uran and that um even dentists don't like it uh even have you seen the quote where the actor for uran says uh someone asks him why is it that he was so accurate in episode four but so inaccurate in episode five and he says something like well it was for the plot it's just like okay yep uh what my point is that all these people you possibly could remake it with them and you'll end up with something much better because they seem to have wanted much better but i mean i i if you're gonna remake season eight keep the actors if you're gonna remake the entire thing yeah i'd probably go to say scratch it all and get all new everything ah sure being charles dance i'll keep them cheers all right fine i'll keep charles dance it it's a cast it just won't keep anybody else maybe i feel like you you'd be able to get cast is really good cast was great and here's like who would you ever replace tirion with like you can't peter dinklage is really the only good midget actor in existence i was gonna say it's a bit it's a bit limited for if you guys familiar with midget actors i don't know no no no this is how many can act like peter dinklage i don't know that you're gonna that's the whole there's once upon a time he didn't have a job to do you know you probably did you hear of him before game of thrones yes well that's lucky for you a lot of people didn't my point is that there's probably a lot why the fuck did you just assume there's one good dwarf actor could you name even a single i don't have to i don't have to name all of the good actors that i've never heard of i was gonna say work i like warwick davis but yeah i don't know i don't know it doesn't it doesn't matter what's here anyway three stings or whatever like you know the rings you could just do that if they wanted to perspective there you go yeah yeah they are you know unless you think you just do that i i think the i think it benefited them actually hiring an actual dwarf because it works i need to veto the doctor by the way they could they could save the show if they did that honestly charles dance is the master tom cruise refinish your show they've spent the last 10 years working on it also means the writers david and dan would be friends with people who worked on the show meaning even if hbo agreed to make the show revenue writers i have no idea how they'd convince everyone to say yes there's no lot the assumption is that they would okay the whole point of this hypothetical is that these things that if you go are you guys trying to push for remake when it might not be possible it's like um we already know it might not be possible like what the hell so some eyes is title is it literally you don't deserve that because you're all stupid for thinking that this petition was real and also the access of people to i guess i'm curious if he's gonna have some kind of closing statement for that one unless the minute i know using game of thrones is a prime and relevant example there are so many other instances of this entitlement where people think they have ownership of something just because they're a fan you've got the last jedi which basically got the exact same treatment as this with petitions for it to be remade i'm pretty sure there wasn't go fund me to remake it i can't remember you've got i like them zooms like it's like a stand in for humor is that a joke i don't know the zoom in the zoom in covers for human i picture zooms zooms are like you have a little sign that says applause or laugh it's like oh shit we're supposed to laugh at this it reminds me of when jeb bush was like please clap clap you're not entitled to be entertained when you pay for media to entertain you please clap hmm okay it was funny it was really funny you got him all right all right let's let's let's carry on but brie larson who i recently made a whole video about whether our petitions to get her fired fan edits of end game where she's not in it i don't like that people have perspectives i like that he's just highlighted yeah people are passionate they care about this shit this is why this shit makes millions of dollars what did he get here is he go are we gonna get climate change and brexit next i think so that's how this all ties in because i almost think this is satire because it's so sexist even jake whoa what's higher because i missed the point where it became sexist hang on it's because in that petition for the re-edit of end game it also had like uh reduction of female characters in the last battle including purple pots because she has no place in there and that was one of the things i mean i think she has more of a place in there than a lot of them do well if you play it and then pause it on the moment he does he can steal the big last thing who i recently made a whole video about whether our petitions to get her fired fan edits of end game where she's not in it that's it yeah so women in final battle speed reduced in particular yeah i don't even agree with that statement i would lose the all women moment it was really forced and awkward um you don't need to do that just have the women be better you don't need the female sorceress gets scared of hulk and just gives him the stone right why would that happen this isn't even good at it female sorceress gets scared of hulk dude dude wait why did it just skip do you see the i'm just reading through the tony doesn't meet his dad thore doesn't meet his mom it's pointless wait it's playing for me it's at 922 where you guys at it's so sexist nine where you just say it's so sexist yeah okay i'm 15 okay now it's paused okay good yeah um tony meeting his dad and hulk thore meeting his mom apparently those are pointless they're like some of the best bits of the film but sure yeah black panther is the first revived adventure to arrive he gets a bit less time again i just realized who knows where he pulled this from you know uh he probably wrote it himself yeah yeah in general whenever it felt like marvel was sniffing its own farts um i'm sorry which which part i don't understand i don't know what that means no no sexist even jk rolling who i've been vocal about disagreeing with the direction she's taking with harry potter has been taught to stop with harry potter so much that i genuinely think she quit twitter she hasn't tweeted since march at the end of the day even though i disagree with her i'm just a fan and it's her story so it's her choice what she does with it i understand what does this have to do with anything i'm sorry what does jk rolling have to do it it's her choice how she fucks up her own stuff and that we're supposed to say that for db i guess too oh well yeah he's just opened the fucking pandora's box there because he's completely negated or ignores what george arman thinks about anything to do the show but jk rolling talking about her own intellectual property yeah that's all right i guess he would argue that i just keep every time you talk i just think that the mouth of sauron is talking to me and it's like this is like the most euphoric thing i've ever witnessed good then you will listen carefully some people don't which is what i made this video for and if you enjoyed it make sure to leave a like special thank you i went to go get pizza and played my nintendo switch instead of watching them i bet you did well i know you did actually but that was awful chat is there chat i have a legitimate question is there like some thing on soup not super mario uh super smash bros where i could test out the controls rather than having to just figure them out because that would be very helpful because i mean like a practice mode there's got to be something in there yeah because i can't thank the other ones had like practice modes it just yeah i feel like there should be one i've seen it in other fighting games can't you just set up um set up a game against you and a bot and put the bot to like a level one that should be something you should be able to do i have no idea i haven't played a super smash game you're a terrible person forever all right everyone say yes what what's it called everyone's saying training mode i don't see what can you do well i i could but i'm also eating i'm lazy i know i'm just fucking okay anyway look at all the modes you think about that wolf i have got to bow i'm afraid guys it is getting late and i am desperate for food and i need to sleep eat and sleep well right toodle pip yes it has been fun more training it's been fun and only enough guys i might actually pick up um was it uh oh shit what's the first book in the expanse called live on wakes yes i might actually just pick that up and just say i might give it another chance to see if it can if you can blow me away the first one is good right the first one uh i listened to it very recently and it's kind of like a between like a six and a seven out of ten book two is like really really awesome book three is pretty plotting book four picks up and then everything after that okay that's fine as long as you as long as you don't tell me oh you have to what you have to like read the first five books like like it oh that's that's i can i can work with it's cool it's you know the third one's a bit but yeah like for me if a book doesn't catch me in the first hundred or so pages and i just don't i just don't yeah exactly so if i was going to be like that for this yeah i'm not doing it but i i'm gonna go try i know i'll read it you guys know later i would actually suggest like listening to the audiobook because it's excellent they are good uh well if i like it that much i will yeah i mean if it's not your thing then it's not your thing but if it is it's great i do read a lot so it's not like oh this is gonna be i don't read normally this is hard work it's like now if i like it i'll blitz through it anyway um yeah it's been good hanging out again thank you very much uh talk to you guys later bye mouth goodbye i don't oh shit i need a quote fuck i need to quote the bow out on shit um give me a side quote hold on i i shall find i want to hear what the mouth of saran sounds like fighting the balrog oh did you see as well um i actually added the dawn to the emotes for the chat so you can just post an angelic dawn with the the member thing don't be with you i'll do one for james more brother avenge me there we go right oh well i'm sorry i'm sorry wolf i gotta go tell our guys goodbye mouth of saran goodbye and for people who are like why do you never promote alex's channel he doesn't have one wolf hasn't read any of the books he gets a vast majority of facts wrong about the books oh it's anthony waran no wonder is that is that a person you regularly oh anthony waran's this little faggot that thinks that i'm racist because i say that things he doesn't like how do you yeah he's uh i'm a cunt so anyway anthony i'm not saying that you should kill yourself or anything but i mean i would really be that terribly sad about it then you got oofs in the chat as well as lots of dawn faces so it's really a mixed message anyway these are eight things we've been getting wrong about game of thrones season eight from this is from what culture as well which are essentially british watch mojo in a way yes i actually subscribe to these people the only books wolf likes are the kind that are flat and covered in cheese and tomato sauce don't forget the pepperoni oh hey i ordered a pizza you made me hungry it's a meme that every time i myself i'm going to get a pizza hello there everybody what cultures adam clear here and what's this video called again i'm sorry eight eight things uh everyone is getting wrong about game of thrones and they're all specifically in general or the thing is he says game of thrones in the title but i'm pretty sure this is about season eight okay can we all just calm down for a bit you see as season eight has rumbled on and on and on and on the conversations around game of thrones have descended into such bedlam that the last half hour of the bells was pretty much why is it that people treat it this way it's like it is people wading through like online discussions terrified of whatever was being said it's just like is it hard to just read criticisms or watch videos i mean i make unbridled rages and i don't think that they're exactly not you know like rabid or anything they seem calm plus we're not forcing them on anybody i like you know he can it's very easy for me or you not to appear in his feed anywhere i mean he has to actually click play on our video uh has to see it in a recommended feature somewhere you have to actually find us so yeah just if it's too hard for you i mean like seriously if it's bothering you that much get a little help because it's just criticism and i just like the idea like say i'm on say i'm on one of your streams and we're just casually talking about how they've damaged Daenerys and then he's just in the comment section like can we calm down i mean you were like uh what okay we're gonna say something else that is why uh i think i cut you off oh no i was just saying i i'd never raised my voice i try to be calm in the chat i've done it every once in a while but uh not enough to the degree that someone needs to burst into where i would say hey you need to calm down it's a recreation of twitter on a monday people are just so so so angry about the direction the show is going in when you boil all of these major complaints down it's basically just it's broken all of its own rules characters are doing things they wouldn't do and stories are going in directions they shouldn't be going on yep with one episode left the goddamn telegraph have called it broken beyond all repair i mean one episode could not okay well i don't know what the telegraph is but one episode could not fix that i remember looks upset i it looks genuine what looks upset he does oh yeah he's you can tell he probably liked the season it's probably the motivation behind the god damn it people is it like don't get me wrong it's a long long long way from being perfect but this is a tv show arguably the most scrutinized tv show don't you mean arguably arguably the most scrutinized um maybe i don't know our most tv shows scrutinized as much as i mean they favorite fans scrutinized them you know this seems like a weird i guess for theories and stuff yeah depends on how i guess he's using the word but uh like scrutinized is even a bad thing right parsed out but it's not yeah it's scrutinized um yeah i always kind of found that as a bit of a negative though i think people would just dug into the show and love it i don't think it was getting a lot of criticism until recently last couple of seasons i think it has like a negative connotation but i'm pretty sure it literally it's just like going through it excessively and being like fine comb tooth comb that's what it's made for it's intense yeah that's what it's there for it is meant to have theories and it was built on people having viewing parties at bars and uh reddit threads and stuff that's why it is what it is so is this all all of a sudden it's a negative uh when it goes bad well that's you know it seems natural when you have an amazingly detailed backed up story that gets scrutinized you'll be having people create channels that absorb their lives covering it but nobody complains about that nobody's saying like guys calm down it's just a tv show remember this was uh wolf this was like patrick william saying stop furiously hating the last jedi it's made for kids and then you're like but you passionately love it so are you allowed to do that as well or is that you know like passionately love you could be like why do you passionately love this so much it's made for kids yeah that's a little weird both ways or do we not it's only when it's a negative feeling that's when it's you've gone too far yeah entry it's eighth and final season it was never ever going to end in a way that's satisfied absolutely everybody but now it feels like there's this big group of fans who are confusing this doesn't work with this isn't what i wanted all right let's get these arguments out of the way that this would be great and yes i know i know you're really angry about it all but let's just let's just mean you as two really good mates just go through all the big complaints about show we're not good mates buddy try and work out if they're i'm on board with this premise but i don't think it's going to go that the way he wants it to they they're actually true let's look at what we wanted to happen and what has actually happened and then just work out whether or not it's good all the same okay just it's a much much better way to live your life compared to what what is he referencing is the bad way to do it it's not as good without d&d writing it already you're wrong it's not as good with d&d right wait wait someone made this argument it's not as good with d&d they were always writing it wait uh i think i thought without writing the and i was like oh wait um now i'm confused yeah i need him to that is good to see without date well what about george r martin writing books so the so the idea is he's responding to arguments and if someone said the show isn't as good with d&d writing it i'd be like do they mean as a whole or do they mean it's not as good now benny often whites are writing it all right so quickly before we start virtually every single thing on this list is going to be like a subjective thing the people are saying and we're going to try and add a bit more context to to see if they either softens or shifts your viewpoint but this one this one we're starting with this is a matter of fact there seems to be some genuine confusion amongst fans about the books relationship to the tv show the books and specifically how the writing of the latter is canadian or british i was definitely british well like ask most people who has written game of thrones the telly show and they'll say well it was george r r martin for a long time but now it's these two dorks to be absolutely category 100 clear on this david benioff and db right write the show with george r r martin working in a consulting i've not known anyone to make the argument that it got bad once they took over i don't know anybody who's ever said this who in the world thought that george r martin was the one writing the show i mean he wrote a couple of episodes right and he and he hasn't been a consultant for years yeah he's been out the consulting he's been the lead writers how could he possibly make this argument they make all the final decisions okay so people will write a script other people will but they go over that script add whatever they like and take out whatever they like because they are the showrunners they and they give the story so they have a story that they wrote that they hand off and somebody fills in with some dialogue and then they fix it is it so yes they are still the writers nobody they haven't gone away like can you think of anyone in the world who has ever made this argument that's what i mean like there's like eight reasons why i don't know uh just just lost svidali was better than you think that you just go it it didn't kill every single character by spending them guys sorry mother my pizza's here i can't help you right back everybody's getting pizza more sitting on a lonely island without a pizza i should i should just draw one better than nothing drop it you know i can get cynics next here you can just eat him uh yeah what a weird argument to start with it's like guys it was written by d&d like all right i'm glad we've established that i'm glad we have uh re-established the thing that we've known since day one thank you this yes there is just of all the things you can say to try and defend season eight you start off with d&d wrote it really you don't say if you had one guy saying you know oh it was so much better when george had it they took over in season six and that's where it all went bad or something like that i just be like all right yeah that guy's an idiot i guess like they sometimes do that and you're always like why why even bother responding to that argument like are we still on this yes what argument are we on now that was true in season one it is true in season eight every single thing that's happened on this show has been built around that dynamic now yes when the tv show did overtake the books they no longer had that crutch of supporting material but they were only ever using that as a guide and they've still got martin as you just described it as a crutch and then you described it as a guide those are two very different things i actually agree with the initial statement that it's a crutch i am yes i'm convinced it's a closet canadian it makes sense if you interpret it that way a closet canadian dressed as a merchant fisherman now so there's not as much to draw from but it was still always just their vision of it anyway and everyone's saying oh it was so much better when they had all the books to draw from seasons five and six was when they first stopped using them and what did that give us that gave us hard home sept of baylor mother's mercy dance with dragons hard home hold the door some of the show's most critically acclaimed episodes all came from no books so my god stop pretending that you're anything other than canadian also it just makes me easier to hate you that way they made good things before so stop saying they shouldn't have written the final season you're like oh that's how even a broken clock is right twice a day you can do a thing that's good it then still suck just we're drawing drawing from the books in season five anyway there's a lot of stuff that was in the books yeah not only is that whole it's not as good now they're writing it themselves statement objectively debatable it's also nobody has made this argument nobody on the face of the entire internet has ever made this argument so second point is there was no point doing the Brienne and Jamie stuff I'd say there's no point in doing the stuff after episode one and before episodes after episode one of the show and before episode five of the last season with Jamie like that was all just a kind of a waste of time but it just skipped over it yeah I guess that includes the Brienne stuff what do you guys think there was for season eight there was so is he gonna argue that there was a point for that because no I especially where Jamie ends up it was kind of pointless there's a lot of things they could have changed and they ended up hurting his character like we talked about a lot he his redemption was it crashed and burned it was dumb it made his character pointless he reverted back to original Jamie at the end and what was the point of that so if you're trying to sell Jamie's character to somebody like you should watch this series and knowing where it ends you couldn't sell it to him he just had you know imagine someone being like I love as I've been watching this show that this Jamie character like he was sort of like a complete asshole but he's slowly like learning that you know there's more to life than outside of him and his and his love and that he's regaining a lot of the honor that apparently does sort of put himself forward to this like I really love where this is going I can't wait to see what they take it you'd be like ah they wasted this this whole thing and it looked good at first when he first saw brand you know at the end of the first episode and I'm like oh I can't wait for that that was impactful and stuff and they just went hey I'm I'm really sorry he's okay you were you were looking out for your family cool bro catch you later let's go fight the dead you know I mean it was terrible and there was no budgetary concerns or any battle scenes with that that was a seen low hanging fruit on the nose but it still would have worked and they didn't do it they you know with robot brand yeah let's see the argument on the counter no point doing the Brienne and Jamie stuff just to have him go back to Searsie all right I want a Jamie Lannister to complete his redemption story and go and live a life happy free of his past I wanted that you probably wanted that Brienne of Tarth definitely wanted that and looked for all the world like the writers flattering image of Brienne became apparent in season eight was that Jamie Lannister didn't want that he survives fighting the dead he became a bit of a yeah just because the writer said so like Jamie didn't want that yeah I understand the events I watched them as part of my complaint good guy thanks for recapping bed and for the first time saw it as a woman instead of just a night but in that so it is a woman it's like saying I saw it as a human in reference to a black man I think that was probably just a slave let me hear that again I don't know if that's actually what he said I don't think he meant that no of course I'm saying I wanted to I want to know if he's tizm'd it even or do we just invent fighting the dead he became a bit of a good guy took the end to bed for the first time saw it as a woman instead of just a night but in that singular shot of him lying there staring at that you realized this is not what he wanted yeah I saw the episode too man that's what I'm complaining about he got his happily ever after and realized it wasn't him and that's the problem so he's trying to recap the episode back at me just repeat back what I definitely saw and tell me I was too dumb to understand what I didn't like people are complaining that Danny wouldn't have killed all those women and children but if you watch the episode you can see her burning them that's Daenerys burning them you're like yeah I actually saw a couple screenshots floating around where they forgot to animate Daenerys on Drogon's back I mean you get the budget cuts why when I'm trying to drag it it's like doing weird tizm stuff on me definitely wanted that and looks for all the world like the writers wanted it as well but what became apparent in season eight was that Jamie Lannister said Jamie gets happy ending I don't want it Brienne's not my queen what he survives fighting the dead he became a bit of a good guy took Brienne to bed and for the first time saw her as a woman instead of just a knife but in that singular shot of him lying there staring at that you realized this is not what he wanted he got his happily ever after and realized it wasn't him and that's the whole point of his story we go on this long reflective and redemptive journey with him we see him why the fuck did he do any of the other things that he did if it's not him just go away Brienne is a man and was all disappointed afterwards that's his face after like oh man poor Jamie finally get there only to realize it was just Cersei that he wanted all along he loved her more than anything else even tells her in their last moments together nothing else matters yeah I heard the episode too oh jeez especially that especially 15 feet over where there was no bricks falling we don't that doesn't matter either we don't have to walk over there and survive if you watch it as well the the big the big area they wanted to go has a little gap at the top but they just go nah you know it's not gonna work he runs over to a different pile it starts like possibly moving bricks and I was like why would you move the whatever Jamie you know it's funny that hill under the arc and it would have not hurt them yeah if they just ran over to where Tyrion eventually walked out this how is that even whatever I gotta wait for that that's gonna have its time criticism when I get to episode six we'll see how much he deserves a happy ending but he can't and that's the whole point to take this this long arc which finally culminates in Brienne something we want to see him get from to realize it's not it's not what he wants Brienne is the whole payoff your argument is the episode happened that's great I love how people like say that we only recap things I know and this is literally what he's doing he's trying to sell it to himself this is this is a whole video of him trying to sell the argument to himself it's like he's gonna cry look at that look buddy classic canadian let's let's have a chat here I tried to justify episode three to myself for about 20 minutes and then I started thinking about it and I realized I really was justifying it's just shit it's okay you can admit it beautifully done number six it used to be all about the conversations and what is this argument it used to be about all the conversations in dark rooms well I wanted in season eight conversations in dark rooms this is his third point and he has yet to make any sense even remotely cogent I wish to see the man who said who did it come on put your hand up he's like I'm sorry I just really like talk to the metal they're talking about I just uh episode three was his favorite one the entire tipping point of this story comes when John explains the truth of his heritage I'm sorry I was so my issue here is that yeah whatever you count as to this argument you have I probably agree with because I think this argument is retarded what who said they want more conversations in dark rooms I don't know why are we even giving this time he's yeah he's not even making it up good you know in good omens you watch good omens when uh when the the witch master got so bad at making up fake names he just started going yeah Lieutenant table yeah he's at that point with the comments right now like show a comment you could even make your own make a fake account write the fake story I mean like do something what in the world is this to Danny and then again when she begs him not to tell anybody and then again when he rejects her love and she realizes yeah there are conversations in rooms that are not lit very excessively I agree all she has is fear like when we look back on this when we look back on this defining moment in the entire song of ice and fire it all happened in conversations in dark rooms in season eight what is that what is happening what is any of this mean like I'm trying to extrapolate any kind of meaning from this man and I don't understand any of it according to roll they said the names and the names were the right names and then the show started and when it started the actors acted and they said words and then the show ended boom my argument what's going on here please let this be the last of the tism points like can you make a real one John and Danny's pros and cons and whether or not one of them might be a better leader no that's not a dark room mate because there's a lot of light in there can't have that one have that one the other and then realizing they're gonna have to go separate ways it's a quint essential distillation of everything that makes this show great the turning of the wheel and scheming the classic quint and sensual the one and two characters getting the defining motivations coming out of that conversation all right in a dark room in season eight yep from their virus signs his own death warrant interior doubles down undone dude so when he was coming up with how does how does how to smash how to destroy the lip cucks on this particular conversation he was like hey what are my strongest arguments well there's a lot of conversations in dark rooms so I could make up that someone said there's no conversations in dark rooms does the content of these conversations have relevance to this discussion or no what does this have to do with anything he's not even showing us like particular conversations I mean he's got his copyright Warner Brothers stuff and they're their big channel they can they can show clips uh he's not he's not even backing it up with anything um this is govlin slayer has conversations in dark places that's true going about it all wrong with my youtube videos i know i'm just gonna repeat shit honey before realizing he might have made a horrible horrible mistake the defining characteristics this could actually be a gadelb guys i've made a note but yeah this could be gadelb you could just like literally copy this entire video and we got i've got a crab a year's worth of efap coverage into that video it's going to be a nightmare it's going to be like three hours long next couple of episodes all in a dog it's part of the meme that it's not supposed to go over 10 minutes that's the big problem with gadelb this is why none of the sentences make any sense so there's like three you're gonna have to objure yourself and make sure you're talking at like 300 words a second dark room all in season eight number five there's too much fans too much fan service i would argue the opposite there's not enough fan service there's practically none aside from clagane bowl yeah that's like the worst thing to have nailed like if you're gonna nail something why clagane bowl here we go service this is this is my absolute favorite one fans deriding decisions being made in a show as being too concerned with pleasing the fans in a show that is category what the fuck said this i didn't know that this was something people felt that it was too much fan service i know that there was a bit of focus on memes but there was quite a bit of fan service in season seven but not eight how is it fan service to destroy the fans favorite characters that's a weird argument but it's not pleasing it's fans clagane bowl jamie and brian every conversation in episode two all the plough would it be fan service for jamie and brian to hook up if he was gonna do what he does how is plot armor fan service no one wants plot armor what he said plot armor was fan service yeah he just said plot i mean you can rewind it in the show that is category not pleasing it's fans clagane bowl jamie and brian every conversation in episode two all the plot armor always plot armor fan service i'm like curious right now is that is plot armor fan service i think i guess it's fan service to like resurrect a popular character that died but oh i mean plot armor is this is a show where people expect people to die and it was used as a as a negative towards the show yeah most people hated that there was plot armor because they're so we love the the exhaustion and the the tragedy of characters dying when you snatch it away it's almost like oh and besides this is the last season we're not going to see these characters again anyway we want grand deaths we want deaths that are like representative of the journeys and stuff like gendry and aria banging was 100 complete fan service did probably agree with us was it i mean well then again i don't know many fans that wanted that yeah i mean i i guess if you i don't know i mean on one hand i can see like the shippers being like yeah yeah there's one there's another hand there's also quite a few if you like hook any characters up you could argue that though right like there's always gonna be someone out there yeah i don't i honestly like i guess uh danny and uh john as fan service too but that's more of a season seven thing i guess i guess it depends on how you see it in episode three all putting internet noses out of internet joints because they were apparently trying to make people on the internet happy i mean honestly honestly does the does the internet seem all that happy to you even clagain ball the one open goal they had is being derided for being a bit much because it took place most the consensus i saw for clagain ball was happy most people seemed happy about it what are you guys because i just checking forums and stuff people seemed to do like at least we got clagain ball that's something i was seeing a lot i couldn't care less yeah no i i don't really i didn't give a shit about clagain ball ever i just knew there was memes for it and i kind of i like the memes a little funny but i didn't think they would actually like i don't care that the hound is gonna kill a zombie like big whoop and the idea is like there's a huge history behind it for them it's like there was one scene in season one where it's explained what their history is and then since then the hound doesn't seem to really give a shit until season seven where he meets up with him like correct me if i'm wrong but the references are paper thin in the show and it comes across the dnd we're like oh people really care about this clagain ball thing should we just we just totally they cared about anything of game ball i don't like i said i don't care like it was the fight cool like uh there were people i agree with you that where i went that there was people saying that at least we got that but um that's me he's in a crumbling tower with a dragon flying overhead who are they making happy here also the problem here as well is that judging the fan base as a collective and i've probably done this in the past we probably all have but the idea that you go the fans say there's too much fans who is and yet the fans say they loved clagain ball the fans are contradicting themselves you're like who are you talking about specifically like you're just taking the arguments of loads of random people and smashing them together it's like the previous video where he was like oh you don't want them to touch star wars didn't star wars get ruined by ryan joss's like i don't know what is that guy said that that you know what i mean i'm just i'll just the hound and mountain should have had a chance offense could you imagine that i would have watched it on the internet they're just having an argument with his comment section obviously i mean i'm stating the obvious here but yeah he's just at war with his comment section probably that's where the upset looks come from but the dragon flying overheads who are they making happy here if the showrunners were overly concerned with what people on the internet wanted then we would have had two full episodes exploring the night king's backstory before john killed him in one on one combat and then he would have married dany put about a hundred babies in a he talking about what okay the the pause screen right now his face the space that he looked like he lost all the functioning brain cells in his head that's kind of me right now i just i love how self-deluded this guy's like you want if people go what they want they'd get and then names all these things that no one's asked for i'm just like who the fuck wanted john to marry daddy and have a million kids like what is this what someone said this dude looks like a sailor the kind that takes it and doesn't care on the internet wanted then we would have had two full episodes exploring the night king's backstory before john killed him in one on one combat and then uh he would have married dany put about a hundred babies in a theon would have lived grown his cock back and secy would have jumped off a cliff having just seen jamie and brian change their relationship status the fuck show are you right talking about the hell on facebook and unless i've made just the most insane straw man argument i've ever seen in my life halfway through like nothing's happened yet jesus mention none of that's happened number four are you didn't deserve deserve wow it's that weird again i use other words i don't know what you mean by this she shouldn't have till the night king her entire story is about her traveling the world learning the main she didn't know what the white walkers were until literally that episode wait yeah so because there's there's some focus on the many faces of death that means anyone who can kill stuff belongs to be it has to be killed by her like okay uh i don't know john is all about freeing people and getting them places that means that he should have been the one to kill sirsy it makes complete sense with his arc he should have been the one to kill sirsy they fucked it you could make this argument for literally every character gendry kills the fucking night king like don't you get it gendry was the son of the guy that got all of this started when he was killed it makes sense that gendry kills the guy that ends all of it gendry was rowing in training to kill the night king that's obviously what he was doing he's a trained assassin he rode for that long to specifically learn the primary the primary antagonist to the white walks which is water he was the one who spent the most time on water his whole arc is about water gendry waters every time i hear about i think of gendry like sailing i always think of that meme where he ends up at hawkers just staring at him it's one of my favorite kids thrones memes herself and the night king is literally the manifestation of death this is just to recap her journey right she's a terrified little girl who has to watch her father get beheaded then she journeys the harsh reality of westeros on her own before falling in she was literally kept from watching it man just let him just he needs to create the show in his head he literally didn't see it happen in the seven kingdoms and she goes abroad and trains with this mysterious group of deadly assassins before outgrowing them i hope in this in this recap he's gonna mention and then one day before she killed the night king she found out he exists she just said she outgrew the faceless men and that's an unfinished plot line they should be sending assassins after her yeah she didn't finish her training she got stabbed in the gut she fought a wave with a stick and barely won and then yeah she got way beyond them by not ever understanding what it was to be a faceless man yeah on her own before falling in league with one of the deadliest killers in the seven kingdoms and she goes abroad and trains with this mysterious group of deadly assassins before outgrowing them herself and returning home this vengeful deadly warrior how is that not earned what was what what the fuck did in what you just said what does that have to do with the night king what was any of that Jesus Christ people being like oh she likes death and death is the night king makes sense but one plus one is three yeah let's take it away from the guy who's been fighting the white walk since the first season and instead give it to someone who didn't know they existed until like that episode you could have had a fight in them it's fine with me hell give her a white walk into kill that'd be great not the night king keep her away from the fucking night king john was on meth and didn't know what he was talking about until the like he is yeah a little bit point in any of that if you don't give her one of the biggest kills in the closing episode what was the point of any of that if you don't give it one of the biggest kills it's like are you really running with that logic does everyone deserve a big kill have her take jamie's face and kill cersei then that would have been so much better would have been better expected and better i think that's the theory right is the gray house they gave the night king to aya because i didn't have shit all to do in this season otherwise that's what they said i said it was unexpected that's why they did it they didn't say anything about her earning it and you realize man the only reason she even went north is because ed sheeran kind of convinced her to by accident yeah ed sheeran and hot pie yeah what did you see in the half very very tedious bravo stuff for if not that like it's about yeah when she went through all the bravo stuff i was like oh finally we've gone through this so she can kill the night king that's i think everyone was thinking that right every that's where your heroes have thrown all the conventional weaponry and all the conventional tactics i mean at least he's finally made a point that people have made like this is good well done did it it only took him four points the army of the dead and nothing has worked so you've got this slightly creepy girl you can do things nobody else can she does a thing that nobody else can apparently that you mean phasing into existence because you're right a lot of people can't do that from a platform that's not there yep and i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not saying it couldn't have been done better i'm not saying any this is perfect just that it was actually pretty good you don't watch my video on it i had a wet barracks face it was all dead exciting and it made a little bit more sense but still it was fine it was good i liked it you can't say she didn't deserve it because she did a bit great argument she can't say it because it's not true leave me alone okay danny snaps when she hears the bells um oh boy oh boy why does he like why wouldn't you put the substance of the argument up because this is just who cares whether or not this is true the the point is whether whatever let's just see how he explains it number three danny snaps when she hears the bells yeah this one this one really did my head and thousands literally thousands of people on monday and tuesday either commented or tweeted to tell us that that exact moment in that episode with the battle won and the lannisters throwing down their swords danny is sat atop drogon hearing the bells and in that exact moment right then she snaps no no it's not that's not what that was yes we literally see it happen this is what it was we watched it happen dan and dav say as much yeah they've already confirmed it as well yeah they said that she did not intend she didn't go there intending to kill everyone sorry mate not to mention why do you think she nuked everything except all of the innocent people at that sat atop of the thing it's because she was like hmm did i kill all the innocent people then she had the bells and she went oh fuck it let's go i don't know what episode he watched wrong now the exact moment the switch sort of flips is open to interpretation but the key moment is in your own mile the key the key moment is when john wouldn't give in the d like yep you're right okay can i read this real quick yeah go for it this is from db weiss and then she says and then she sees the red keep which is to her the home that her family built when they first came over to this country 300 years ago db weiss says it's in that moment on the walls of king's landing where she's looking at the symbol of everything that was taken from her when she makes the decision to make it personal you saying she snapped saying she snapped in that moment well this guy's laughing at the co-creators uh perspective what do they know this is horrible that stripes uh 300 iq guys this this i just like the way he's so dismissive when it's literally the person who wrote it he's fighting against right now he's like are you idiot you don't just know your own stuff with john in that room like just just think about it right she's lost jorah she's lost miss and she's lost the sarin she's lost you it's missing day miss my sunday uh i love the um the argument people keep peddling with this like people died that she liked therefore she can kill children jesus it's like yeah that never happened before this is the thing if she was gonna snap because of losses then where were the snaps that she should have had a million times already oh my god it's so dumb like the idea that your setup is that she's lost those people who are important to her and she's going to snap i'd be like hmm yeah i think that's fair so she's gonna kill a searsie in like a horrible way right and then they're like no she doesn't really care about searsie and i'm just like what they're like well she wants to kill children and she's like i don't see how that followed i think we missed a few steps and like no you love the fact that she doesn't even confirm searsie's dead she doesn't even seem to care it was the women and children do talk about it but they also don't talk about the night king you know they fought the dead and it doesn't even like come up in passing conversations like god remember when we fought the dead and now we're fighting each other and that's kind of crazy almost like it's really rushed ashton this is poor bad writing oh i know what we'll do we'll just not say anything for half the episode that'll take care of it hey girl she has lost tirion because she doesn't trust him anymore she's lost varus because he betrayed her and then she seemed to struggle though he's like she lost varus because she killed killed him uh whoops he went to go join his she lost varus that's a good interpretation of what happened i always love the line for the episode where she's like santa killed him as much as i did it's like woman what are you talking about i love the idea that santa gets told she's responsible for varus's death she's like how well you told tirion the secret and she's like yeah he told he told varus it's like what does that have to do with me can you imagine if she showed up at winterfell and said that to her and sounds it's just like what imagine she was like which one's varus that could believe that honestly that actually this is what i mean about how the season eight is just a fucking disaster think to yourselves when was the last time varus and santa crossed paths and it's like oh well there was i remember season one where like varus is along with picell and seriously trying to convince santa to like write the letter to the north to convince everyone everyone's everyone everything's fine and so you'd be like oh she might harbor some hatred for him for that to be like yeah you worked with her what else is there it's like well varus was trying to pull strings to get santa married to with with with olena tyrell but mostly stayed away from it it's like oh so she might actually harvest some resentment for him there could be a clash there she could have a comment it's like no she pretends like she's even fucking no exists other than danie apparently saying that she tried to orchestrate varus betrayed it's bizarre like nobody talks about anything everything just is flat such a shame you know one thing that really bothered me thinking about it was um santa never got to see sirsi again like how great would that have been like how strong santa is now in in a capacity where sirsi wasn't powerful as well like she was like say she was taken prisoner and sirsi could see santa what she became it's just a kind of cool because santa had a similar sort of journey as her and i just think there's a lot of potential there hell santa might even take pity on her you know And she's like, can you draw a bit of blood? Yeah, thank you. Tyrion, because she doesn't trust him anymore. She's lost Varys because he betrayed her, and then she burned him. I love that stuff. The last person she has left, her last connection to this world is Jon and... What do you mean? What about Greywim? What about her Arby's? What about her Dothraki, her loyal, loving Dothraki? Fun writers. She knows a few of them, and there's probably a couple of handmaidens we don't haven't seen. What about Dario? You just need to fly and go see him. Dario! Doesn't matter, even though this very scene starts with her and Greywim discussing Misade's death, like... What do you think Dario has been doing in Slavery's Bay this whole time? Chillin'. Enjoyin'. Slavery's back. You think he just allowed the Slavery's to come back? Well, if you remember, he was pro-Slavery, so I'm pretty sure he'd be back in full force. She goes back, finds it, like, back to where it was when she first came. She's like, Dario, what the fuck? Loyal, loving, infinite Dothraki. Yep, they respawn. He rejects her. Having lost every human touch she's had to this world, she decides in that moment it'll have to be fear then, by which she means she is going to burn King's Ironing to the ground, because if people will not love her, they will have... Yep, sorry dude, the creators disagree with you on that one. Nice try. Defear instead. That's why she's so dis- I love that the inside the episodes make the episodes worse, because they describe how the characters feel at certain points, so you're like, why? And then that contradicts this, like, guys, stop talking, please stop talking. Just the whole... Some of the worst moments of season eight were from that, that kind of forgot. I mean, that's a meme forever. Yeah, that'll be a meme forever with bad writing. I love it. I'm so thankful that they said... That was a... When I saw it, it didn't hit me at first. I was like... That was a weird thing to say. Wait... You can't just say that, you can't just say... Oh, and then everybody was posting videos about it, just like, they kind of forgot. It was like... Commissive about the idea of them surrendering in the bells and when Tyrion's telling her she's like, yeah, whatever, she's already made up her mind that that's what she is going to do. And then with the day one and the city throwing down its arms and the bells ringing, she finally realises the gravity of what she's about to go through. That's not her breaking, that is her stealing herself. Can't you really go through with what she is... I like that he's trying to improve it for D&D. He's like, let me fix your episode, please. It's not really going to fix it though, you need a lot more than this. Promised herself she's about to do with what she believes she needs to do to fulfil her destiny. Those thousands of... Because you could tell he was pretty close to almost saying she snapped again, but he used different ways. She steeled himself, meaning she was always going to do it, she's just definitely doing it now. He's like, uh-huh. People, their lives stand in the way of her accomplishing the one thing she's out to do from the start of the show. That's not... Their lives stand in her way? What is he talking about? I want to hear that. Yeah, he is reaching on this one. Healing herself. Can't you really go through with what she has promised herself she's about to do with what she believes she needs to do to fulfil her destiny? Those thousands of people, their lives stand in the way of her accomplishing the one thing she's out to do. What the hell is he talking about? They surrendered. What are they standing in the way of? What does he mean? Despite living, they stand in the way? Don't you realise that the people of King's Landing can jump really, really high and fly themselves? They can form like a flying wall around the Red Keep and protect Cersei. She had to kill all of them. Oh god, I just... Like, walk up to a random civilian and go, do you fear her? And he's like, nope. You don't fear the fact that she has this enormous dragon that can burn the city's ground? Nope. You don't fear the fact that she destroyed every single thing that could possibly have stopped the dragon in seconds and they had full warning and chance to kill it? And he's like, nope. You don't care that she obliterated the iron fleet? Nope. So she's going to have to kill all of you to finally get you to fear her? And he's like, yep, that's the only way. I wouldn't fear her otherwise. The other things that are just kind of inconsequential. I've seen a dragon before. He's like, okay, all right. Because that's the only, that's the best faith interpretation I can get from what he's saying. He's saying that she thinks that the only way to secure her kingdom is to inspire fear and thus she must kill them because their lives, their living stand in the way of them being afraid of her. Is that it? I guess so. The Night King should have won because everybody would have been dead, but doing what he said. So she wants the same thing as everybody dead. Yep. That logic is hurting my brain a little bit. Very desperate. From the start of the show, that's not the character breaking. It's not a betrayal of her arc. That is it coming to fruition. It's just, that is, look at Amelia Clark there. Look at that. That is not somebody breaking. That is somebody. What do you mean? Have you seen that scene? It looks like she's falling apart. Like, I have to hand it to Amelia Clark. She did great this season. And I partially feel like... It's not that this is the first time I've ever actually seen her act and it's in this horrible season. I just, I love that he's like, she's not breaking here. You're like, what do you mean? I mean, are you looking at the same picture we are? Look at her. Look at the thumbnail. I just... Realizing what they have to do and being terrified of it. Number two, these aren't the characters we know and love. That's an easy argument to just get rid of in a few seconds, isn't it? Like, you're going to cover the ball? Love. Okay, but I guess that's kind of, that's a subjective one. That's your opinion. But let's just recap a couple of things. John's story is about how in a world of such wrongdoing, doing what you know to be right often carries the greatest consequences. And in season eight, his refusal to love Danny because she's her aunt is one of the major ca... She's her aunt. She's her aunt. John is a feeble. Unless he's saying that Daenerys is Daenerys' aunt, in which case we're talking about some time travel shit that I can't even begin to express. It... That's... I, you know, I would honestly rather watch The Last Jedi than watch this man's video. He probably has one to fend for The Lost Jedi. I know, and I'd still rather watch that than watch anything he's made. Massacre of King's Landing. That kind of fits. Tyrion's story is largely... Oh, my God. Okay, like... Are you really going to run through and tell us about... Surface... What other stories are there about how are you kidding me? Well, he's just going to do the surface level take. So, like, let's say Tyrion shot himself in the head. He did that at the beginning of episode six. He was so depressed. And someone's like, I hate that end of the story. Don't you understand? Tyrion, since season one, has argued and fought for his life. He always finds a way to extend his life when people are trying to kill him. And he discovers, across the entire arc, that no matter what he does, the world just gets worse and that ultimately it's not worth living in. I think it works. And then you go, okay, what else we got? It's like, Tyrion falls off a fucking cliff. He slips on some rocks. And I go, don't you understand? Tyrion, throughout his arc, he's always been about a sure-footed, extremely intelligent response to any kind of situation. And every single time he gets into any trouble, he always manages to get out through this sort of steeled mind about exactly what step to take and what to say. So I think it's fitting that he slips and falls to his death. It's not even a mental thing. It's just a physical thing. You know, when you said he got shot, I just imagined Tyrion taking out like a pistol. And it's like, what if that happened? Would he still defend that? If you can bullshit enough, there's just no ending a character has that can't be fitted with their arc. Tyrion went through the ruins of... What's the place the Targaryens come from? I can't remember the name. Valyria. Valyria. Yeah, he goes through there. And they were super advanced. They had guns everywhere. He just found one and kept it. And then at the end, he was like, you know, this is the time. Wolfless play smash. Saw that come in the whole way. It's all there. You don't understand. Yeah, I was just going to say, that's the method here. You do it the same way as Daenerys, right? So that even D&D did this. They were like, home through the episodes, find any pieces of dialogue that can support that she would kill children. You're like, Sue, what about all the ones that go against and simply take the big sets? What happened to the stream? Oh, dear. Rain? I'll just repeat that. The stream. The streams, then? Oh. They went offline. Oh, no, you just got to refresh it. Refresh. Seen a couple of Fs. There, hang on. This happens quite often. Yeah, at least once per episode, mostly, I think. People are saying it's back. Hope it's back. Okay, either way. I mean, I just refreshed the page and networked. Excellent. It doesn't make you as smart as you think you do. Okay, I'm putting that on there. I want that on his shirt. Oh, my God. You know that Neil DeGrasse Tyson meme where it's like something, something, but I can't remember what it's actually saying. Let me look it up. Neil DeGrasse Tyson meme. I'm sure you've seen it. I'm sure you've at least heard of it if you haven't. I actually need to listen to it again just in case. I don't make sure I got it right. Her aunt is one of the major catalysts to the entire massacre of King's Landing. That kind of fits. Tyrion's story is largely about how a lifetime of drinking, whoring, and having really good quips doesn't actually make you as smart as you think you do. It doesn't actually make you as smart as you think you do. It is the... The Neil DeGrasse Tyson meme I was thinking of was people don't think the universe be like it is, but it do. In that... This quote from this guy reminded me of that meme. Does it actually make you as smart as you think you do? You do. Look at what. The whoring and having really good quips doesn't actually make you as smart as you think you do. And lo and behold, after two full seasons of poorly advising his queen, he now realises he might have backed the wrong horse and does not know where to turn. That fits. This is the weak source of arguments. He just described the events and then say that fits. Jamie opens the show with his infamous The Things I Do For Love line before doing something terrible, and after years and years of trying to break free of that, he then ends up doing a terrible thing for love. Fits. Oh, it was a character who repeatedly rejected it. Fits if you ignore everything else. Oh, my God. It makes sense if you don't think about it. You don't think about it, yeah. That needs to be on a shit, too. It makes sense if you don't think about it. God, this guy is a galaxy brain. I'm telling you. Fucking closet Canadian. Of all the... You can make mistakes all the time, right? But when you talk about someone being more or less intelligent than they realise they are, that's the sentence you need to not screw up. It fits the hose you're backing up to. The Chad is trying to outdo the universe. Comfortable life as a high-born lady just living in some castle, and then, lo and behold, in season 8, when she's offered a nice comfortable life as a high-born lady living in some castle, she rejects it. What the fuck? That's your take on Arya's story? She didn't want to be a lady, and then she was offered it, and she didn't want it. That fits? Don't want it. So, Sansa is for years the biggest victim of how the political game in Westeros has played but always crucially learns a lesson from her mistake. And now, would you believe it, in season 8 she's now playing the game herself uncompromisingly and on her own terms. This is just nonsense. She's just saying stuff. So, is he really like drinking wine and looking out of windows? Alright, they might have dropped the ball on her, but as for the... Oh, thank God, he's got like some semblance of a brain cell, I guess. High arrest of the cast, if you're suddenly confused by what they're doing, you really, really haven't been paying attention. Oh, God damn you! I've been waiting for that one, you son of a bitch. What's this guy's name? What's this little Pont's name? I wish I could get him on the show. Maybe I'll give some money to him on my show to debate Game of Thrones. Pretty. I'm just looking at top comments to see if anyone says like, oh, I agree and then Pearson's name. Adam Cleary, is that his name? You want to debate him about Game of Thrones? I cannot. Maybe I was thinking of someone else. Why am I saying Adam Cleary? I was totally thinking somebody else, yeah. What a culture. A couple people have actually said his name is Adam. Oh, apparently, yeah. Some people say Adam Cleary. I thought it was, yeah. Okay. G'mine believing geek, yeah. It just fits. Just fits. Not as smart as you think you do or whatever that is. Not as smart as you think you do. Any time Game of Thrones be how it is. Yeah, I was going to say it just fits. Adam Howard really does. Yeah, I love that that argument. You just haven't been paying attention. No, I just don't rationalize what I see when I so emotionally attached to something. I can't like bring myself to admit that it's not good because I have myself worth wrapped in it or or their channel or God knows why. His eyes are red. I even took a screenshot of like how red his eyes are. He's just really high. He's been crying. He's either really high or he's crying or both. High crying. That's what he's doing. Yeah, they ruined daddy. In before, in before he says she killed people before she's always seemed to be kind of on hinge. It totally makes sense that she'd murdered thousands of children and women who were running away from her in fear. It totally makes sense. Number one, they've ruined Danny. Okay. So this is the this is the real one for me, right? If you've watched Daenerys story and you disagree with what they're doing, that is absolutely fine. That's your product. If you don't like what they're doing, that's absolutely fine. That's part of watching a TV show. But if you think that the bells was somehow majorly out of character for it and not instead where her entire arc has been leading, then that is absolutely wild. The groundwork for this has been getting laid better than you and me combined. Don't make assumptions there son. Season one, like with the nice thing. Sometimes it may be what it be, but it do. This is so good that all of us put together couldn't even see how good it was. Like, okay. She was always going to have to be the show's real big bad and just I'm I'm sorry if you started a Twitter account which is used to post loads of photos of her smiling with. My queen, but that is not the right as fault. That's yours. Whoa. What is this argument? Whoa. Straight up fan blaming. That's great. It's your fault you thought she was a good piss. Let's recap here and by recap I mean I'm just going to say exactly what I already said on ups and downs. She is a character who has longed for home her entire life only to get there and discover that she doesn't actually. Is there anything any of these characters could have done that you would have said is out of character and then I want him to say it and then I would justify it. No matter what like I said I went as crazy as Tyrion slipping on a rock and falling off a cliff like give me anything and I will justify it with some random reference. Tyrion flies away and I'll be like well Tyrion never believed in magic you see he was always not like he always thought he was dumb all those stories and then when he turns into the magical side of his personality is able to be free of the bonds of earth. The magical side of his personality. And he's like it's perfectly in character it fits. You can rush like anything okay. He just turns into the really big midget that he was in. This is vicious. Large midget. Belonged she never let anyone get to the hospital but still managed to see her best friends and her daughter. Grogon's still alive buddy. She's not lost everyone yet. He's forgetting about the other people he's like they're all dead. I don't know there's a couple. Her eyes she believes so firmly in her destiny to rule Westeros only to then find that the man she loves actually has a better claim. What does that have to do with her killing children and women? Take me there. I didn't want it. Better kill children. This is what I mean I'm like. It's like if Tyrion just massacred everybody King's Landing with a fucking Uzi and then I'm like. Tyrion went to the wall. He pissed off the edge of the wall. You're like okay. Oh you still don't get it. Tyrion then went back to King's Landing. He used the hand of the king. I still don't know where are you going with this please connect the dots. She has been this figure of tragedy. She is consumed by loss by betrayal by isolation. She is corrupted by power and destiny. She is haunted by this idea of the Mard Queen which is handed down to her from a Mard Queen father. It really do be like that serton of House Locke. I feel like we're nearly there. When did she kill the people? It's intensely powerful storytelling and it's been getting done since the very start. Intensely powerful storytelling if you say so. My dragons are grown. We will take back what was stolen from me and destroy those who have wronged me. We will lay waste to armies. We will burn cities. Would you like to rationalize how these children have wronged her? Did they stand in her way when she was trying to get the throne? Like she's in the room and they're all like in a big bunch like no you can't sit on it and she has to personally kill them with like a knife. How he visualizes it I don't know. To the ground. And honestly truly I am so so sorry if your favourite television character has just let you down and broken your heart but that's what good storytelling is supposed to do to you. I can't even. I can't. If you think it's bad that's what good storytelling is. Like okay. Thanks culture. Thanks closet Canadian. I've learned something new today. When you thought it was good it was good. When you thought it was bad it was good secretly. James Moore asked can we kill him? I think there's laws against that. I think just this once maybe. Some judges like I mean there are exceptions. It's supposed to be even legal eagles life. I've seen several comments in the chat saying they're getting angry. This matter's upsetting people. In the gut and make you just sit there and go no how could you like your girl spent eight seasons telling you exactly what her move was. Oh yeah I remember her doing that. She was like never kill innocents, never spill innocence blood never lay the bones of a child at my feet ever again. The lock away people who could deal more damage to people. She'll punish those who commit injustice. All of these were set ups for how she would obliterate innocent families fleeing from her in terror. I don't get it now. Just like those bells in King's Landing you didn't want to hear it. So there you have it, those are eight things everybody's saying about Game of Thrones right now. Wait what? Just like the bells in King's Landing you didn't want to hear it. I think we did. Why would we not want to hear the bells when that man they'd surrendered. Wouldn't that be precisely what wasn't the whole point of the scene for the bells to ring. Every character was staring at the tower like It's a great pause face by the way you got right there. And he looks absolutely convinced by his own argument you know so. Yeah I'm impressed. Don't forget to like share and subscribe guys. Oh my god. I'm just checking out some of the top comments right now. I'm just checking out some of the top comments right now and seeing I'll agree with you. You're still in the ball. Some corrections a lot of us just agree with it apparently. Great points made me feel better about the whole thing. Great points. I am myself not mad with the direction the show is going. It's over. You really explain Danny's arc well. What? What do you mean? Dude the videos we covered in this EFAP the most insufferable we've seen since Bob Chipman. We covered sufferable every episode. I know but this is like really bad. It was a journey. I'm so glad that I don't know that it's a everyone likes that video. People using it as defenses in season 8 most of it is even accurate a lot of it is just straw man. Right. Uh... Terrible. Terrible. Terrible. You know, the funny thing is- A bunch of people are saying they actually shadow band people in the comments section. I was actually about to bring up- it's an odd comment section. If you guys loaded up yourselves, like, most of the- a lot of the top comments, the comments with like one or two likes right now, which is odd, made three weeks ago, so that's unusual. Did you click top comments just to make sure? Cause I know that YouTube kind of screws that up times and it goes to newest first well I guess I don't know I just did that tough to hear some of these but as I've said eight likes why is that a top comment two likes 225 9 426 this is weird yeah well don't comment on this video guys no point we might just get a delete I was gonna say there's not a lot of vehement disagreement in the chat oh someone just put Adam in this video just got e-faps that's in there I put in DBY's quote just said that's a snap son yeah well you know what great video what culture I hope that you move on successfully with this kind of reasoning it's very convincing sorry it sucks but that's what good storytelling do I'm writing it down what needs to be written down for sure I mean I do this is thing I write down the best of the quotes from everything we cover and then my April Fool's video is gonna have all of them in it but I'm gonna deliver them in a way that's almost completely jumbled and it's essentially a it's like a big bingo thing you just you just you just tick off all the things that you would have expected over the over the year of watching e-fap it's like gadelb is like e-fap rewind there you go but yeah since we're at what is it now four hours I believe it is time to start reading super chats it's gonna one probably get through got a couple here and there or two for me to take a piss I'll be right back here you go and Gary you don't have to stay for any longer than you wish to you very well just let me know before you want to go because then I can make sure everybody knows about your channel it is in the top of the description if anyone has found is his contribution to be particularly interesting I would recommend giving the channel a little checkeroo so lots of fun but yeah I'll give you I'll give you a good old plug by time we reach the end of it thanks and thanks for having me on this has been a lot of fun I hope it's been funny I was gonna say like the covering covering the videos could be such a mixed bag of like paid an entertainment I mean at least him fumbling quotes is probably the funnest thing in the whole video it was no I I enjoyed the second one quite a bit I thought especially since I used to watch those guys yeah it's you never know that sort of thing right like it's sometimes sad just like oh I used to be a huge fan what happened oh game it came with thrones happened and seriously the rational is I mean listen he's just a fan and he's trying to rationalize in his head through the video he's obviously having an argue I think you mentioned Facebook mmm yeah some Facebook group where people are spurging out and this show is so much different than everything else because the normies were pissed as we talked about a lot yeah got a lot to deal with these stressing out poor guys so he's smoking lots of weed and crying into his bomb and he's a you know yeah what he said Canada yeah they said you're a channel that really likes doctor who season 11 right I feel the same way as perfect television oh god yes that was it it was a perfect television right there with the Game of Thrones season 8 actually the great storytelling well-paced really thought out you know I really like the white guys being the bad guys all season I thought that was a really good idea really good spin on thing toxic you know toxic father's toxic masculinity it just yeah it's all about oh so you don't like the truth is always saying that's it all right then so I'm just gonna try and get through these as quickly as I can where is rag is well we kind of answered that at the beginning but yes he is on some form of a holiday I believe is he's doing great and he'll be back for the next episode where we're gonna be going through a lot of memes my collection of memes is already bursting so it's gonna be a lot of stuff yeah the e-fappers meets the great neurotic well on e-fap anyway I'll be watching the replay praise the dawn he was the first to Bilker right now oh yes wonderful me that's from the rookie critic I met him on I meet him on your channel was a jade there's somebody stream I believe look to him for a little bit probably Jeremy's geeks and gamers hmm yes thank you very much hail e-fap hello massives bury me in the ocean with my ancestors thug life yeah that's another great quote from black had the wolf pack quoting killbog good the wolf isn't here he'd probably be enraged by it so more things happened I can get you the thing now just giving you a heads up for later I will PM you James once we're through the show there's literally a super chat that just says penis I don't know how to react to this how has no one made an e-fap theme song yet there is two videos I think that have been made that we covered in the past that had like a potential theme thing some amazing videos have been made and I don't know an actual theme song though then who knows what would be involved in that have to reference every meme the second that you make it it'll be outdated by memes in the next episode so first e-fap that isn't a two-time speed love wolf we couldn't speed up that first guy it would have been too hard to understand what he's saying but we do that sometimes with people were covering cuz it can be quite painful not everyone suited to speaking slowly some people speak way too slowly or they're frustrated I don't know if we sped up Monday Matt I think we did you miss my streamlabs thing last stream from eep thap 37 you massive are you sure that eep thap let me check I thought I read out the streamlabs ones as well he's at my door I will be right back reading them for four hours I know right you think I wouldn't have missed any I will get through I'm gonna read all the the streamlabs ones now then um objectively eep thap is the best podcast well I didn't say that it was somebody else you know I can't say that's true I don't know what thank you for another eight hour eep thap unfortunately missed this one live but I just started watching I mean this will oh wait that's nine days ago okay let's make sure it's something spooky I mean this one says wow whoa I'd suck a fart out of Don's ass I don't know if that was the one you wanted me to read me it's obvious Donnie just needs some good hugs that might have been it two things ironically Bezik proves what rags said about sex being more entertaining when you care about the characters and Wolf why is your first book out of print I want to read it I think I said that to you right yeah yeah um if I've missed it other than those ones then it's not showing up for me unfortunately um hopefully that was it though here's a large little Caesars for you Wolf little city have one wait they don't come in different sizes unless you get like the lunch combo but that was garbage I know too much about pizza oh is little Caesars pizza yeah oh it's like affordable pizza it's it's shit pizza but they have rockin breadsticks man hmm it's not my fault it happens to be my lunchtime at work oh that was from James I that might have been about modding and stuff yeah it was he shot me a dm but then Jenna popped in to carry the thing yes and I've got a couple of I've modded a few here in there so hopefully enough what is the podcast collective top five John Carpenter films if you guys have seen any of his other films the thing is the best obviously well yeah that would be my number one what else is John Carpenter made I would actually have to check well big trouble little China and the thing are the best to me he's like Christine they live in the mouth escape from New York of course and Halloween um yeah I mean it's kind of hard to make a top five I would just I'd want to be safe just be like the other thing I love the thing it's like one of the best horror movies there is I don't know how that's the case by the way the 1982 is still like the reigning champion for making a horrifying creature that can like convert itself into those different things you'd think it would have been beaten out by now like did you both see in the remake of the thing well I wish I didn't yeah I did not I did not I would just imagine the thing but significantly worse in every single respect how to do it I don't know if you guys are fans of Evil Dead or you like Sam Raimi but um Ash versus Evil Dead does that stuff pretty good in the tv show don't know if you've seen it and then swamp thing which is on DC streaming actually does some pretty damn good horror special effects that look very much like the thing and people really like that show and so they've cancelled it it's very good it's very very good I just find that amusing it's like of all the ones you could you could just cancel batwoman for fuck's sake no one wants to see that DC gets something right and they cancel it I'm a woman oh I can't wait for that can you imagine her hanging upside down with that red hair it's just like it immediately gives her away oh yeah what's with that I saw I saw you looking at Gary the scene the scene with um she like gives so many dollars to like a homeless woman and then the police officer's like don't do that you'll encourage her yep is he talking about drugs then she gives away her it might have been well yeah because he gave her he's talking about drugs but I think he was actually talking about the audience about making videos about that trailer because a lot of people did but now and then she gives them a 10 I don't know of Rolex I don't know what Rolexes are worth and then the memes the next day are the best or like young woman dies heroin overgoes 10 minutes later you know so when the chat said I'm a massive I can't even get that high for that freaking nobody wants to get that high oh no not high in that way who has the funniest laugh in the e-fap crew in your subjective opinion I think it's wolf my adopted son I don't love thinks it's Mola you don't know I I would say Fringy's laugh is really infectious I agree with that we had anybody on like a weird laugh we should make fun of them while they're not here hmm yeah hmm I don't know a weird laugh we'll have to leave it to chat right I guess I guess rags is laugh is a lot more high-pitched than I ever would have expected it to be but it's not really a weird laugh I get high pitch sometimes as well if there's something shocks me until after I'll make some weird noises I mean a lot of people voting for rags so people I think rags might have the best laugh yeah rags and fringy are like the two I would say though fringy just beats it for me um how would you make a powerful character sympathetic I'm writing a book where a character has that start also rosamund pike as moraine who's that uh-huh anyone recognize that name war rain war rain war rain I'm not sure is it well what what what's the full super chat again rosamund pike to play moraine in amazon's wheel of time show oh oh oh okay moraine from wheel of time uh what's the name again oh rosamund pike funnily enough dude she's the girl in the doom movie rosamund pike let me see just uh five well I think five I guess she doesn't really need to be as short as moraine I guess we'll have to I don't know maybe oh there's even a news article about it um and yeah as for how to make a powerful character sympathetic this is like a bazillion ways you can do it uh give give them some good old fashioned character flaws uh relatable ones like she's a girl girl that father what do you say sorry they like to do give it a bad father no give them uh give them an alienation to all things social because too many people will treat them as someone different from them there you go seeing that on the daily and then something as powerful as superman coming home to his apartment and just sitting in a chair and being upset with his day would be pretty sympathetic even though he could like destroy the world with a punch I mean one punch man does it pretty well I think as well like this is any comic stories come to mind Gary of powerful characters that are very sympathetic toward it in a sort of very real human way uh yeah they usually do that with uh modern times with like with tony stark they've done it with his alcoholism uh even carol danvers yes carol danvers miss marvel had an alcohol problem at one time although she's a flawless character now yeah um depression yeah uh actually every superhero has gone through that the the sitting in a room by themselves after they just save the world I think that's been an every superhero arc ever it's a very sad I was going to say like um it's also relative because like I'm assuming by most powerful they're they're talking like top tier stuff because to an extent you know you said you said tony is like yeah tony's like super low on the power level especially if it can be considered in a base level rather than like you know carol danvers superman sort of stuff think that if you have a mental disorder oh we're shocked yeah yeah go for it this is what I mean there's loads of ways to do it uh it's only Hollywood only make you think that it might be hard like don't seem to be able to make it just yet they'll get there someday because like I don't consider Iron Man's story to be a sympathetic powerful character I don't really consider a lot of the time he's uh fighting an uphill battle in most of his films like whiplash he was definitely fighting someone who's less powerful than him but in almost all the other scenarios he's uh against someone who he's probably gonna lose against in power wise he has to outsmart them yeah tony prior to the one in the comics prior to the movies was very stoic uh and the the alcohol problem was very out there with him because he wasn't this smart ass quipper and that's kind of something that he started later on and then Robert Downey jr perfected snow flame yes we need snow flame snow flame is cocaine powered uh no I don't know uh yes he's a cocaine powered supervillain and he uh um I like him already is in one issue when he dies but uh he is uh cocaine is his god and he is the instrument of his will of its will cocaine is his god all right no flame it's it's definitely unique yes uh and yeah so he does a bunch of coke and then he has all these you know flame powers it's pretty pretty cool um now superman is the one that hollywood can't get right because nobody who lives and works in hollywood constantly now has uh and they're not close to actual humanity they're all jaded so they can't see an actual good person being good so they can't even get to the place where they would give him like a normal flaw and I think um superman's inability to get close to anybody because if he you know he always has to practice restraint if he grabs somebody's arm accidentally too hard he'll crush it um and that that's definitely something you could play with it but they never do because they always want to make him darker than he really is which changes the character completely so for man's a very complex character but you always hear hollywood say he's too hard to write you know god he's they they make like I said they make it seem like it's hard it's not I mean not how to write at least in a standard decent story like they keep creating then again we're actually that's going to be an e-fab in future talking about uh man of steel and boundless supermax i'm i'm sure you're aware gary but there's a very large amount of people who are very defensive about those movies being great uh it's strange boundless superman like I couldn't stop laughing at so much of it and I watched it with Alex for the first time and he fell asleep halfway through and I was like hey it's funnier than that it doesn't deserve to be fell asleep too um the other one thing I'll always remember is uh is Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor awkwardly popping sweet into a man's mouth I was like what am I watching why it was weird because it was like they were trying to push him to be a sort of Joker-ish character and it was just like Lex Luthor really oh it's a complete opposite but you know whatever um we'll get around to that I'm looking forward to um rewatching them for it because I'll just be like this little we'll finally get a fair take on just how amazing these movies are with videos that'll explain it top to bottom I'm expecting the same arguments we got today where they just say what happens to the movies they're like see this match is super bad and what he does because because that's what happened yeah I'll just tell you what happened and repeat it back to you uh with uh you know with some confidence and then I'll be right uh about my argument that I'm having trouble with within my own head so I'm gonna make a video about it which hey they got almost a half a million views so who can argue uh finally made it to a live stream love you guys to death why thank you would you rather have to mercy kill the dawn after watching him get impaled by Captain Marvel or have a petrified pineapple shoved up your rear sincerely mr massive petrified pineapple why a petrified pineapple I don't know yeah because it's not hard enough obviously so it needs to be a little harder what is it does he think it's gonna fucking explode when you shove it up no might implode well you gotta choose wolf you gotta choose okay what was the other option uh to mercy kill the dawn after he's been impaled by Captain Marvel sorry don you're gonna have to go damn wonder if that'll be in the lore at this point it's like you had to you had no choice uh I could add that in the efat book well ask him the trap question then star wars wrong podcast there's no it's the orphan question can I get another uh another shout out please appreciate it cine animations they made the one where um the guy says uh the last Jedi is a masterpiece three types of the birra at its summon defab um go check out some more of his channel cine animations s i n i animations go for it might not be around as much this time heading to the hospital because my niece will be born within the next few hours love you guys well I hope it's a wonderful experience adding another I'm sure to teach your niece not to be a massive yeah and don't don't get her into the latest Star Wars films okay just the OT yeah it's the first thing you gotta do tell her that nothing happened after episode six yeah and the Disney made these weird fan fictions that no one likes rags is taking a holiday to the name or to narrates name of that is the name of that picker gender uh rags is taking a holiday to the dog park this is true calm down but thoughts on adoption nerd rotic what are you it's an adoption uh I'm well I'm adopted wait are you oh I think it's great yeah that's awesome so your parents don't love you then he doesn't know the memes we have a running meme don't worry if nothing makes sense just assume it's a meme and just roll with it it's all right I'm also old so gotta keep that in uh my parents don't love me no they don't this is not insurance the parents who adopt me don't love me either so it's consistency it's okay the dawn loves you loves all awful why no forced ghost or guests suck why no forced ghost or guests suck all right no idea not as smart as you think you do uh wolf are you happy that a writer from elita will work on the new cotor trilogy no wait there's going to be a new cotor trilogy is that the one that dan and david doing I hope to god not I mean we shall see uh I love I love godzilla king of the monsters but I think it's pretty bad objectively it's funny how people get aneurysms over a concept like that poor Eric and jack shame oh I mean you know uh wait are Eric and jack like vehement defenders of godzilla I don't I don't I've never heard of that I assume that was unrelated or maybe it is related I don't know but um did you know that ryan johnson is doing it on we're I love how it's just never gonna be over hey wolf you're gonna never gonna watch a star wars movie after episode nine I don't think I can stomach anymore after episode nine I think that'll be the end of episode 10 you won't watch star wars a ryan johnson story no oh god a ryan johnson story um yeah uh uh those people love king of the monsters and I can see why the the fight sequences we're awesome it's just holy shit the story um also I get to watch this live oh boy yes smaller I love your star wars videos what program do you use to sync your voice to film clips I'd like to do that sony vegas 16 I believe is the one I use uh but you can use uh adobe premiere when even windows movie maker rags use windows movie maker up until I want to say like four months ago or something maybe you'll know that which is insane uh so that's proof that I think isn't it Jeremy that says it like just get yourself a camera all you need get a kind of hell great a under a used his phone and windows movie maker I know that you should really be great a under a but no just proves you can do it with literally anything I use screen flow which is pretty much the mac movie maker and I'm trained on avid and final cut pro and I just use screen flow because it's easy uh if on my way to milk my rhino I have to catch my breath after tying my boots does that mean I get to vote twice yeah depending on how far you ran and if you ran uh we can answer that we need more information because whether or not you can vote twice or three times it's a complicated affair what did you milk the rhino how much I mean yeah we need to know how much you milked as well or you're going to milk also two as well in addition secondarily I appreciate you guys do you want to know the name of this person the super chat by the way it's bulbous buckled uh they're multiplying happy Tuesday you massives why thank you those fuckers were on fenna stream yesterday too yeah these bots have been getting around like I said I saw them on jstream and uh you just need a mod people and the mods will win eventually good to know that mods are more passionate than little literal bots they're gonna they're more aggressive um more youtube free money for long man why thank you they target every channel that happens to be streaming on youtube no point in complaining because they'll go they'll go at it at the end of the stream they'll go at it at the entire stream well they did stop well didn't you turn off the links oh right yeah I guess everyone should do that I don't even know why that was on though because like if I haven't have we had a needed a link to be posted in chat like why would that even have haven't we posted links multiple times in the chat yeah but I thought that mods are still allowed to I haven't been a mod forever no no what I'm saying is like when have we ever needed a mod uh link from like chat members I don't think we've ever needed so it's like it shouldn't be any loss from doing that yeah um I only ever heard of that new men in black film and watching godzilla a couple weeks back must be pretty low confidence I only found out that late no wonder it's failing yeah I've heard nothing but bad things which isn't exactly a surprise either of you guys seen heard or gonna watch that saster god no Godzilla no no men in black oh oh shit that's that's out I think so oh I didn't that's out you bombed it looks terrible like even Liam Neeson can't get me I'm sure he's not in it for that long as well probably he's probably in it as long as he was in that awful battleship movie from like 2012 or whatever Charles dances and king of the monsters bullshit I love it in an interview he said the people were complaining to him that it was false appetizer they wanted to see him more he's just like I know what I could do about it it's what they told me to do get him in more stuff uh while we're on the topic of X-Men you all watched the 90s animated series by Saban it's got some problems but it's the best visual X-Men adaptation I have not seen it has anyone here seen it Andy's animated wooden gun because I've seen that clip I haven't seen anything more than that 90s animated series by either Saban or Saban I don't know how they've pronounced it Liam Hardar Neeson uh if it's the regular yeah I've seen it I loved it I thought it was fantastic it made more X-Men fans than the comics did it's all the one that has the intro that goes do-da-da-da-da-da-da is that that one one if it's by Saban I don't know if I've ever heard Saban but it was the one that was on Fox it was on Fox uh kids in the Saturday morning cartoons when they do those back in the 90s and uh Spider-Man the series and Iron Man and back when the chef said I liked battle shit and put a little frowny face I mean it took me wrong when I saw it I I laughed really hard at the theater have you have other have you seen battleship no it's really awful it's really hilarious too wife was watching it I looked at it over her shoulder she likes a Taylor Kitch from Friday Night Lights he's in it I guess uh yeah it looked terrible it doesn't have uh Rihanna in it yeah there was like three instances where they were about to say fuck and then they didn't like it cuts off the word halfway through it's like guys stop it either put it in there or don't want to compromise the integrity of the board game that we're uh making a film out of so stupid there's this scene where they look at this monitor and it just pulls up the image of like the battleship board game and it was supposed to be this cool moment and it was like this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen god there wasn't like a Parker Brothers cinematic universe we would have monopoly movie and oh god four square and it would have been awful stupid and then they question whether we want to remake a season after it airs and they make battleship movies out of a board game battleship I would suggest watching it like either drunk or high because it is so funny there's this scene where this building explodes in this little retarded Asian kid like slowly looks at the camera all shocked and I just couldn't stop laughing at the theater oh it's good John Carter I like John Carter guys what books does the Expans TV series cover isn't it one book per season or the cover book and a half so it covers uh season book one ends in the middle of season two what uh yeah so book one ends in the middle of because uh uh the book well because they mixed in a little bit of book two into the first season because Christian Avasarla isn't in book one so she's I think she's mentioned briefly but uh Miller's you know Miller's only in the first book well yeah when he goes he's in three and four the the alive Miller yeah the first part yeah yeah sure um I never made it that far I quit halfway through season one so that Mahler hates that I love home is the end of the first book and then they start the second book halfway through uh the second season and then it feels rushed because they they do a third book in a half a season and yeah yeah yeah it's just all right the whole thing was jarring I guess it's because they thought they were being finished right yeah they thought they were cancelled and and the whole premise of book three I mean honestly is uh something stops too fast with a bunch of people inside of it and then there's just bodies everywhere and they're just trying to pick up from them and then little skirmishes start out and uh I mean the cool thing about the books that I like about the show but I'm sure Wolf likes about the books is it it's a constant string of things going sideways and going to hell and dealing with it uh with all these outside forces going in it's like everything that could go wrong will go wrong based on some very bad decisions by people so but it's done well it's done very well I also like that every book is mostly self-contained I mean it still follows the same plot points from the last book but each book has its own contained plot line doesn't they feel like distinctly different and yeah uh but yeah it's it's it's you know it doesn't stop blowing me away it's the same two guys writing this and uh I'm starting to I eight books in I think I can figure out who writes what chapter now no I I'm not familiar with either the author I only know them through the expanse so but I think it's I think it's actually really cool how it's so seamless like it doesn't feel jarring between chapters no not at all it's like I said it took me eight books to figure it out I probably have to reread them and like or probably read at least one of their individual works to follow up for sure I hear more I hate science fiction because space is so massive give me power of mod I will mod so hard well we made it past the the horrible moment of not having mod all good for now so I've been on a movie binge before I go off to college is it bad that I think pulp fiction is incredibly overrated and the predator the Arnold one is one of the worst movies ever oh problem with you yes yeah that is a problem that's a big problem that's bad you gotta his medication that can help with that I think talk to your local practitioner of health they'll be like you don't like the predator oh okay okay no predator and they're like that's the series is so confusing predator the predator predators you're like what are you gonna what's gonna predator to aliens versus predator aliens versus predator requiem requiem oh requiem was so bad I'm going to bed now if you're not still streaming when I wake up I will be disappointed slice and dice and rub and tug my brothers click here for sexy ladies the deep meme EFAP with Gary the dawn smiles upon us Gary the dawn I mean yeah if you're comfortable with that Gary being thrust upon the label of the dawn Gary the dawn on any dawn to be honest with you my no real what if I have beep boop can't stand the bots don't stop the bots yes very good would you smash Sophie Turner or Amelia Clark um I mean Amelia Clark seems to have the the the awesome personality from interviews that I've seen you know and that's a it goes a long way yeah Clark for sure yeah eyebrows alone just the best of business eyebrows like her eyebrows they're like their own they need their own acting agent wait do I need to look her up because I don't remember noticing her eyebrows her eyebrows do like 90 percent of her acting most of the time her eyebrows and that's not a criticism she's got one of those infectious laughs she seems cool when she thanked the free folk that was cool so the eyebrows to Amelia Clark are like the the toe thumbs for megan fox I think yeah but Amelia is cute and cool the toe thumbs are creepy wolf senpai are you and rags going to release your seven hour long sex date for e-fap 40 you've been teasing your steamy relationship for several e-faps now I know the tension is killing me in thousands of e-fappers well you're gonna have to talk to rags about that because he won't do it he rejects me all the time until rags denies it ever happens wolf will not release it uh the dog would not approve of goat paw doddus vault don't say that hey guys I tried debating on the internet and the person I replied to threatened to kill me so I'll leave this stuff to you guys have a good one um magneto no needs to age 40 years the next five yep s it'll all fit it'll make sense uh when you're gonna get the act man back on also love y'all we've got we got a like if you look back at all the guests of e-faps like what are you gonna get all of the back on just like there's a it's tough to make a queue in which that 24 hour stream man yeah there we go we'll get every single one on I don't know how we're gonna do that like tell everybody like a month in advance that's the day it's happening be available but if you don't I'll hate you like all right guys you're gonna have exactly five minutes to talk say something interesting in that five minutes then we got a cycle for the next one I'm thinking of doing like the e-fap rogues gallery for that episode like we cover all of the people we've covered but uh like new videos from each of them you know you go through your quintans your jacks your erics dude by that point tonald will have like his channel recreated maybe we buffer them all with a tonald video or part of a so limited potential for a 24 hour e-fap uh how good slash bad do you think the new mutants will be uh is that with what I've heard of it it looks like it's gonna be a train wreck if it even happens what is holding it back it's all done right it's just like legal stuff well as far as I know they've like changed the rating from pg 13 to r like four or five times like they don't know what they're doing I don't know if it's ended or finished filming yet I just know that it seems like the whole set's filled with incompetence happens way more a lot a lot more but I think uh I think it's done yeah I don't know what the hell's up yeah I did hear the same thing that they're they keep changing the rating uh what god damn what everybody's such everybody's these days anybody what what makes an r-rated movie did they show side boob uh did they scare somebody is there score to blood I'm excited to see it for the in an r-rated you have to have at least something interesting do they just say fuck all the time that could be it kid boobs wouldn't even get your rated r oh dude that that's what we did mention that that was weird what did you think of um when they mentioned killing gene gray and then psychosis like uh if you get anywhere I'll fucking kill you I was like whoa look at you pretending like he has balls one of the worst things the worst crime of the entire x-men franchise is what they've done the Cyclops I know he's at one time he was not a very popular character I think he's more popular now uh it's and to forget about Cyclops and the dark phoenix sorry to get all nerdy on you but it's just it fundamentally tears apart a dumb story and that's I think the only reason they did dark phoenix was to uh mark their territory again I think they were doing it the f with disney I don't think they cared about actually telling the story they wanted to beat disney to the punch it was supposed to be a first meet first female marvel lead and they wanted to beat captain marvel and they just rushed they're all dark phoenix we got this already we got sam and kerber who practically wrote I mean just rewrote his last stand script so that was all in an attempt to beat to the first female this is the conspiracy theory and it was supposed to be two films and blah blah blah but yeah Cyclops was stupid I don't know where I went down I went way down on that one but I when it turns out it was better to have his face sucked off in the third movie than to be in dark phoenix probably yeah uh yeah well they'll give the dark phoenix storyline another shot in the mcu give it 10 years or whatever maybe they'll be good they need to have a pretty lengthy break before bringing back x-men agree uh I could watch dark phoenix now and be back in time well before the end of this e-fat what a wonderful world we live in oh what a world we live in don't be a massive live long long man bad I agree with all of those statements wolf how's breath of the wild going it's going good I suck at it but I'm loving it all right then uh notice me senpai's that is from uh an account that's named some weird guy you are noticed you need to notice the weird guy you are noticed weird man uh hey mollus split this up evenly between you ragas and the other canine massive I demand some form of proof for the even split um yeah it's 50 euros uh I'll figure that out and get it to them and then uh proof I guess I'll just think and both say they got it at the beginning of the next e-fat I don't know that should work uh I will make a note 50 divided by three uh maths for one day happy father's day to the dawn father of the orphans yes clearly you guys don't see the value that magneto sees for a dramatic entrance yeah you know it's undeniable it powers him up to have a dramatic entrance too to have his arms out in the cool way I guess to have the cape float but did he have a cape in this one trench coat on trench coat is good enough good enough uh so did phoenix turn x3 just make one I I believe the dramatic entrance I like it I wanted or more in mckellon magneto he was cool it's cool he's cool as everything he should be more things um so did phoenix turn x3 to citizen cane don't understand I don't know about that it uh I've never hate I mean last day on his x3 oh x3 isn't yeah okay I got enough uh no yeah last time it's still people consider it pretty awful I don't think dark phoenix was nearly bad enough to make last stand look even remotely good well there you go uh don't get me started on watching wolf play breath of the wild if there's any proof to calling wolf autistic that'd be it love you wolf it's from james moore you motherfucker james moore my first Zelda game I was supposed to this was his plan to buy you it just to say you suck at it he made me buy the game so that I could suck at it and make an ass of myself yeah dark phoenix is an infinitely better movie than captain marvel do the simple fact that gene gray never lays a hand on saint don the benevolent yeah it's on the benevolent true you like she doesn't actually hit it imagine you just turned up in the film he's like hey need a ride g gray's like yes please they do and everything's happy it's like be captain marvel that's how uh may have gotten a pass for galaxy's edge from my work's trip to bl this week planning on doing the full treatment to see if it's crap i'm not even sure what galaxy's edge is do you want to update me on that gary do you know what it is i feel like i've heard of that but i don't know what it is or war's uh land at disney land and the calling it galaxy's edge galaxy's edge it's a brand new planet it it takes place in the new trilogy universe a planet called batu and so it's like jack who but slightly different differ i know it's really creative thinking there uh and it doesn't have any original trilogy characters at all it has the millennium falcon but it's the one with the square radar dish and and that's the uh there's a ride there there's a bunch of shops you can get a soy green or blue milk soy green soy blue milk get some soy and yeah and uh a lot of people are concerned uh some people have loved it some people hate it think it's a waste of time you have to wait in a bunch of extra lines and i don't know if you guys have been to disneyland in la but or anaheim it's crowded as it is so yeah that's galaxy's edge i hope it's fun i'm too old to go to disneyland though i'm too jadeous rip fallout saga with thumb thunderous applause fallout saga they referencing the whole battle royale thing maybe i don't know that was that was amusing soylent green uh quicksailor was the only good part of the last two movies and the fact that they mad him made him mate the fact that they calmed him do you need to send this as a screenshot and have me read it him calmed is c o m a d him what am i missing here they just just screenshot and let me see i can interpret this i'm sure i speak retard let me see quicksilver was the only good part of the last two movies and the fact they come at see and the fact that they command him with made me big sad you know it was really it was really coherent for like the first half of the comma and then come at him half i'm trying to think what is the word supposed to be co bad the fact that they get that out i don't know having a stroke mid you know the fact that they come at him they can't it i i don't come at he not killed because he didn't die oh people saying it could be cameoed but and that's a weird spelling mistake he was a little he was a little bit bigger than just a cameo too oh my god come at him come at him come at him comod there you go okay there you go yeah he just needs an apostrophe yeah there you go command him command be commanded we did it that's it there you go chat and the the hosts work together to solve the mystery and i agree it sucks that they come at him i guess i need to get better at my retard i thought it was yeah you said you could translate you lied i know i'm sorry i guess i'm even more retarded where's rag is i've i've explained too many times rag is in doggo dog a paradise that's where he is i was disappointed with ap the moment it started they turned a villain is interesting as Thanos into a cartoon doomsday villain uh could have been the last film to unite humans and mutants finally what's ap do they mean dark phoenix or do they mean someone else why would it be dark phoenix i mean they could have accidentally hit a instead of d but those are two keys apart yeah people have very large massive fingers i don't know ap Thanos Thanos has mentioned that Avengers they turned a villain as interesting as Thanos into a cartoon doomsday villain apocalypse maybe that could be apocalypse yeah yeah all right yeah people say the apocalypse you boobers like ap come on could he just say apocalypse ap is not a abbreviation for apocalypse american pie you go eight oh i haven't heard that reference in forever predator but uh yeah hello there hello i think famkie janson was a better actress i'd have to rewatch them i can't remember if she was particularly good or not someone said apoc a lips access well that would be ap al apple hey more the thoughts on banjo kazooie in smash that's awesome i think it's cool i don't get quite as hyped as everyone seems to with these sorts of things like i want freddy and jason in smash more i want alien the predator in there you know that makes more sense to me than putting banjo kazooie like what is that autistic patriarchy um yeah awesome awesome i'm looking forward to seeing who the last two mystery characters will be hopefully they'll be equally as amazing and stuff would you say dark phoenix had a suspicious amount of women i would i would say that and always say uh more when you have the time watch jonathan prega you or logos made flesh they do symbolic analysis of movies myths and like they're quite good and you might enjoy them i don't know if jonathan peg pago pad you i don't know how to pronounce that i'm afraid aid you pray monathan okay i'm just if i just google it it'll ever since we had that super chat calling the don donathan i can't not think the first video result for that name is jordan peterson the heretic with jonathan pago for the don no no for it was about it anyway oh it's about to be like what with the according to the dead sea scrolls the power of objective film criticism reaches its peak during a full moon is this objectively true uh wolver is that true what s yeah okay there you go i just needed confirmation i was pretty sure it was true i just didn't want to say it you know slowly don't want to spread what's true i don't know uh the alien vs aliens thing has always come across as more of a genre battle to me one is excellent horror the other one is awesome action horror hybrid i agree that's why i always find it interesting to just ask what people think because i think it's pretty tough to definitively say one is superior to the other though i know which one i would fight for if i was to have that conversation i think we had it with fenna the other the other i just prefer alien but i there's genre they're different genres i don't think they're really worth comparing with comparing it with it why not well comparing like which one is better when they're two different genres i don't know i don't think genre stops you from being able to do that when you're just looking at a story thing i just think it's amazing yeah i guess it depends i guess it depends on which one you're doing but are there really any huge story flaws in either of them no well i mean not that i'm aware of maybe there is i mean i can't think of any um before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes that way you're a mile away from them and you have their shoes yeah ashford in the show is far better than ashford in the books it probably has to do with the actor portraying him i would go as far as saying it's the actor and the writing i think that i really like to get if he's in the next season i'll be actually much more interested in just checking it out more please forgive rags and unban him please okay here is currency for al given to moeller so he can control his voice tisms i don't i don't know if five dollars will allow him to do that but i don't know why you want that why wouldn't you want him to buy the five dollar webcam or something from i don't know goodwill you're probably worse than the one he's got even if it does turn him into the mouth of sarin like this is pretty i love that if i was on the box it was like will randomly you'll give you a voice change you're like okay read the super chats before reading them out loud you realize how long we're gonna be here if we do i and i i typically if i realize i'm reading something terrible i stop that's usually how i do it uh finally i was having withdrawal symptoms yes we're we're back uh how long has this e-fab been are we we have one like just a week and a half ago well funnily enough for tear i was talking to me the day he was like god you guys do an e-fab way more often now and i was like once per week that he was like there's way more than that i was like it's not just really long yeah i think it's time to do this more than once a week i know these people well that's good if people think that there's more content uh that exists than than it is like that that's that's a win for us entertainment aliens is just a rip off of fern gully uh rags is no longer with us goliath has carried him to valhalla shiny and chrome maybe like as we'll find out my art professor always said a painting consists of an idea and a skill the idea is subjective but your skill isn't love you guys even the fairy is okay um yeah the idea is subjective but the skill isn't yeah i agree with that uh e-fab baby update at hospital no baby yet all right getting close the arrival of a brand new human mohler has a flimple dingus i know that reference thank you i appreciate that's a compliment wolf have you read the red rising trilogy by pierce brown and if so thoughts i have the first book but i haven't had the chance to read and uh does the panel prefer fantasy or sci-fi hmm that's interesting because i read a lot more fantasy but i've always preferred sci-fi i guess it's just harder to find quality sci-fi the thing for me is i don't know if i care i just want it to be great i'll take a both i love a both yeah i yeah that's weird uh and i see when it's done great and it's rarely done great there's there's classics out there but sci-fi has a little a really good good stories that aren't that don't blow me away all the time but uh yeah it's sometimes sci-fi gets a little too out of hand depending on the i've seen a lot of stories that like go off the wall and lose their shit at some point i suppose it's harder to remain grounded compared to fantasy a lot of fantasy is just based on everything that already exists like there's this one sci-fi book i started reading um where they like transfer your brains and they can like give you robot eyes and shit and i was like this is just get a little too far for me that makes complete sense wolf the expanse is like really good in that sense where it's grounded and really good it's really good in that sense that it's grounded and really good i'm sorry uh it's nice to see al in e-fap now we just need to get a monk porcupine for tear on as well still waiting for your outlast two critique and the re7 not a hero critique that's so never gonna happen i said at the end of my resident evil seven video there i'll totally do a video for the dlcs the dlcs were so godawful that i was like i'm not wasting time reviewing these it's not happening like sorry for anyone who enjoyed them it was just so terrible and uh outlast two i don't think i'll ever get around to it but if i did uh i've heard a lot of bad about it well the thing is like i thought the first one was terrible and so everyone's been saying it's terrible compared to the first one and i was like oh which means it's either really good or even worse pretty much um thank you nerderotic for braving the domain of the toxic brood i hope it wasn't too bad a time for you we had fun having you on have a great week i thank you it was great being on this is this is great you should see my chat sometimes especially lately yeah i mean this is the thing uh it's impressive you've lost it this long you're already in the annals of uh of of e-faptum how many people have i think jay is the number one guest for time spent and then like stayed for like ridiculous amounts of time i think jeremy did actually but that kind of makes sense because you guys actually do long streams as well what we're doing here is an alien to you as a concept which is he has no life he's not doing anything damn that's some dead space type spit i think that's in reference to you guys describing the horrors of uh the book two oh yes some of the uh or no that was book one uh some of the stuff that happened in leviathan wakes was pretty reminiscent of dead space that's why it's part of why i liked it i all love your oh go ahead no no i was just gonna say i really i we were talking about earlier wolf is i would love for them to revisit the horror aspect uh really drew me in uh like the whole like all the battle shit that they did in uh the end of tms wrath and combined with leviathan wakes like if they do that in the last book that'll just be so fucking cool what will be amazing i can't fucking wait for it i had later this year a few months i think it comes out next year because tms wrath came out this year uh that was due to a printing here i you know they might push it back because that yeah because uh but it was a printing error and they had to bring they had to recall all the books and reprint it again dude if it comes out this year i'm fucking racing you to finish that book and then we're talking about it for like i'm right he's gonna be talking about buffing yes well read it talk about it in 24 for our 20 oh we're gonna talk about for 24 hours i'm gonna blaze through that book though this is the most hype they've been for a book since like high school and the last time i was hyped for a book this much it turned out really disappointing i hope that doesn't happen again i don't know what you mean get inside the meteor and it's disappointing i've never experienced that what is that well they've had eight books they're going good so far just just don't just don't suck for the last one please i become too invested in this for it to be bad i all love your work but can't stay due to work pip pip doodly do everyone i remember you saying that they usually have a title by now they don't have a title announced they don't have a date announced next i thought it was coming out next year maybe then um the expanse book nine oh yeah they don't have a no title yet probably is just coming out next year then i mentioned they must be taking their time with it since it's the one they got a lot of things to wrap up uh objectively efap is the best podcast i think did i read that one before is that the same one again i don't know either way is that it is that it tell me he said uh i'm studying theoretical physics and i can attest to the physical correctness of this show it's insane how close they are to proper physics all right now i'm steve white in the chat says has nerd roddock got a pizza baby growing no i sure do lateness is heavy-handed gentlemen but geode was kind and here is glad man this we're getting references to videos made by people who've been on efap to become efap memes like there's no limits to this uh just finished leviathan's wake last night already started caliban's war oh caliban's war is so good why don't they just fly bombers over eros and drop bombs no oh is that just uh i think that's the last jedi reference i was doing a my con tickets you know i'm just going on going to comicon oh you're going to comicon san Diego comicon i go i go almost every i've been to 38 of the 50 wow i grew up down there and uh this is my last one it's comicon number 50 i got my tickets stoke why george r martin has stated that he has nearly started writing the winds of winter nearly stopped it just give it a few more years he'll write the prologue everyone's excited for the announcement that he started the game i was waiting for it like oh god you're coming doing a video a song of ice and dawn dang i was just about to watch this show oh well uh also wolf i just finished the first book and enjoyed it how similar is it to the show uh i mean i i don't like the show at all i just stick with the books it's one of the situations where it's like i'll admit up front i'm way too invested in the books i love them too much to look at the show and be like yeah i'll watch this when it's so much less good i think it's good give it a shot you always want to try i've given it two shots i tried to give it a shot no you're saying to the super chatter i imagined oh okay oh you give up i mean you can give it a shot i i tried it twice episode four is where i bail really when somebody's in or out of a tv show that's for sure um i can't wait for the new woke lara croft game that explores her choice to have an abortion they're calling it they're calling it lara croft womb raider beautiful hey willard just wanted to thank you for bringing objective criticism back into the spotlight with your calm soothing voice glad i found you and i'm now working on a long script inspired by your work thank you for being you thank you for the kind words and oh is another half to it also thanks for introducing me to wolf rags robot head fringy smiley jarred the dawn and others you're all awesome neurotic you too but i already knew you i was from manos shin manos manos shin now when he says new you he means that in biblical sense right no he means in like a stalker sense watches it go away from his way yeah i believe he watches me sleep i guess that's a that's almost like the biblical sense yes i'm close with uh my subscribers so good luck with your script may it be long and massive uh this is for the this is for throat pastels for gary you regularly have throat pastels uh pastels what that's a throat pastel you mean cough and stuff yeah probably i've done a lot of coke and i used to smoke cigarettes so that's what it says i i do it's that's it's a thing i i've done a crap load of cocaine and meth in my lifetime and smoked packs of cigarettes for many many years i quit but uh yeah i was i thought you were memeing at first was that i said you were memeing at first no no yeah that's definitely a real thing it's interesting i'm sure you you must have a lot of fun stories with all of that no not memeing at all i'm a grateful recovering alcoholic and addict i used to make i used to cook meth in the 80s with bikers and i'm that's not a meme it's not a joke uh and yeah survive and well good for you about gaming on youtube it's a weird life man what's gonna say like of all the places that that's the journey right there that's a whole there's a whole video there you could make just tell and tell us a whole movie right there yeah get the rights to it gary well someone takes it uh do i have the rights to my own movie maybe no we'll take it they'll adapt it to a terrible tv show breaking dawn breaking gary breaking breaking dawn breaking gary uh shut up and take my money yes uh thoughts on ryan hollinger i don't know who that is anyone know no mr gg anyone no okay seth scene talk i think rags knows that person i still don't know who they are jon tron i like jon tron's content a lot he makes me laugh he's a very silly man and i it's interesting how his channels progress over time i'm indifferent i don't really watch his stuff mr like mr b tongue ggp gray i know that one he makes videos trying to bite size relatively complicated issues and then sometimes just makes ones that are kind of silly for fun and stuff cool um don't run sorrow tv not heard of them internet historian i've heard of them no i'd like internet historian he's funny an austin mcconnell and geetus how come i don't recognize like hardly any of these i haven't heard about most of those i i need to brush up on my youtube peoples apparently be a quiz for it yeah sorry the not more interesting responses there um i just haven't heard of a hardly any of these unfortunately miler i think you might just need a new mic he probably does well we'll sort that out for i mean fuck if he just made a video he might be able to just be like hey you want to see more buy me a microphone that's right uh where's daddy rags there's a lot of those questions do people care about rags is that a thing both can you i didn't know but i guess so wow what are your top five best written villains in movies and or tv from a from an objective view oh boy movies and tv like that's oh that's not something i can answer quickly that's a lot i'd have to really pour some thought into that yeah that's a that's a question to take like an hour to respond to or i'd say like the emperor is my favorite villain or one of my favorite ones at least just because he's so fun please don't ruin him an episode pine they've done it it's all right i i i know but they don't want it to happen the land before john yeah so that's a that's a really difficult question to add so i just look for top villain lists and you're probably going to find some of the best just in general i'd have to go through my top five movies and then kind of go from there i guess then there's villains that are bad movies that i like that are good villains not like Hannibal's a good villain but that's on the nose you got to put a lot of thought into a good villain i agree uh what about farscape and ds9 i have not seen ds9 but i have seen farscape and i yeah i don't hate sci-fi or anything in case that was assumed uh and yeah uh farscape is cool it's like um a little show that sort of could and nobody's really heard or seen about it it was a kind of fringy but still pretty big in scope uh surprising they were even able to make it because it's kind of bizarre kind of low budget but it's it's awesome well that's a bazillion years old uh how does it feel watching everything you care about die yeah yeah terminator is back on the chopping block i feel like it's this big wheel um that alien predator terminator star walls they're all on it and they all just get their turn every every so often it's like because the next alien film will be coming next after this next terminator one is terrible and obviously i thought that they that fox was like taking that away because he was uh that really scott was going insane and don't worry i mean i i don't know if i can't confirm this but i had heard that fox was like axing aliens because it was shit and nobody liked it wow i didn't know that but yeah i mean maybe that's i mean i've heard no news about alien since covenant came out i would have that was three years ago i just assumed they're gonna reboot it eventually when did how different how different god pardon how long has it been was it from prometheus to alien covenant covenant release date because i feel oh that was in 2017 okay okay and prometheus came out in really five years apart huh well because they were like you're gonna screw this up again he was like no no no no no no well i guess in another three years we can expect alien to die again yeah it'll it'll happen and terminator will have its death again i mean oh and also in 2021 we can expect Jurassic park to die again for the fifth time this is what i mean it's a big wheel it's like it's like what danie says in game of thrones like Jurassic park alien predator they're all just spokes on a wheel he's like i see what you mean you want to stop then we get to have lord of the rings with the amazon series and the wheel of time and the witcher the amazon series the only thing we can pray is it's a it's good uh and they're bringing on a bunch of game of thrones people or b into product production i don't know what the date is but they have they have a specific date and if they pass that date and it's the cameras aren't rolling and things are moving the rights were revert back to the token estate and they get to keep their money please for the love of god let that happen in 2019 or i think they're yeah we need a whole new group of creators in hollywood or somewhere else hey mullen do you like any comedies yes the quick easy answer i usually have is the cornetto trilogy um multi python fucking faulty towers blackout of these are hot rod hot rod yeah there's loads and loads of things you know what something new i can add to the list is the tick done done done but uh yeah load load stuff this movie can't be real um i'm not sure if they're referring to a video at that point hard to tell the timeline for these superchats sometimes tlj worst movie ever dark fate hold my beer do they mean dark phoenix no dark fate is the new terminator oh fuck that's what it's called i forgot about that because you know there is no fate for what we make and then they go dark fate it's like a fuck off hate you you have to make things i hope to god you're wrong about john counter just dying at the beginning of the film i hope i am too but if you look at the scenes do you see them anywhere uh how they're gonna explain it and they're they're really going for i'm sorry to go there on on eFAP everybody but i'm sure you've seen what's going on with the times up and the me too and they're just replacing uh you know male character don't worry it's not a stretch to assume there's something political happening when they've axed all the male characters suddenly there's a female terminator protecting a female important person and sarah con is the already made character coming back it's like uh okay bear with me here i know this is retarded but i mean i gotta think retarded i think if i'm going to put myself in the shoes of the people making the new terminator i have to cut my intelligence by like 67 percent what if john counter turned like he becomes an old man and the old man is arnold schwarzenegger and he was the original terminator all that'll be the greatest ending ever and it makes sense because john's arc was always about trying to stop the end of the world i can i can make walk culture videos all day that would be better that would be better than what i told you guys so for sure i'd still have to watch it though and i just don't know if i mean like i don't know if i have the heart to watch it oh my god i'm very protective of a terminator so i'll be seeing it and telling everybody why it's the worst thing that's ever happened since the worst thing that's ever happened yeah i mean that's i do that for star trek i mean it's it's arduous it's hell it's it's the worst show i've ever seen and i watch every second of it and review every single one to keep people from thinking it's real star trek to keep them away it's an uphill battle i'm getting a bunch of crap today on uh on twitter it's a good thing i don't spend any time on twitter yeah i don't have a twitter anymore and it's so nice most do don't recommend twitch is just i i glanced at moller's twitter today and i just looked at the uh the sidebar with all the trending things and one of them was like never trump 2020 and another was some i don't remember what else it was but it was something stupid it's always stupid let's see what's on there now put a fosters bad bad conversations knock and oh holocaust that's trending what right below ed sheeran though all right below ed sheeran is the holocaust ever feel like you're just walking around in some parody somewhere i mean yeah sequels and the twin towers are gone and that sounds like a joke in a film actually the they'd be like they have some awkward twitter reference and they're like uh ed sheeran is uh trending yeah right under holocaust and then the audience have to laugh because reference but yeah that sounds dumb anyway uh here we see the beginning of a soy boy waiting to become a soy man oh ha soymann soymann you should check out bob's recent meltdown he pissed he's pissed critics didn't like godzilla king of the monsters oh no uh hugs and kisses to you wallah adco why thank you uh he almost said the f word the soy is strong with this one prepare the pauses and fapping and we always prepare them well ahead of time we have a talking about bob for a second there and i was like whoa bob almost says f word he says the faggot word moly you are my first with your gamethrones episode three and bridled rage then i found nerderotic and doomcock glad to hear you're doing more gamethrones episode thanks oh yes the new one's gonna take a while but it's gonna be pathetic for me and hopefully for the viewers uh engage the two times speed everyone wanted us to speed up that first guy i just felt like we would have been no pinko heroes so insufferable yeah you can't just go ahead and speed everything i don't know have you guys seen the astartus warhammer 40k shorts i want to hear your opinion on them oh what i have no idea what that is i don't know either i don't even ask me about warhammer 40k and it's like i don't play it yeah none of us are into it i think rags knows some stuff about it right i don't know i would assume that he would know more than us but to walk is it a warhammer 40k tartis is that what it is astartus no no not tartis astart because i'm looking at a warhammer 40k tartis and uh dr who fan i'm like oh that looks pretty damn cool but uh no i i sold some in my comic shop i didn't know what i was selling but uh i don't know if this went through two streams ago but game of thrones was so bad that even a taxi driver when i was in eastern europe complained about it i hate it yes yes the average like people of the world who are just getting on with their lives who see these shows casually those people hated it too nine out of ten taxi drivers do not recommend game of thrones don't believe the one taxi drivers dentist what next baseball players that's the big one you want to go by the way game of thrones was here you're on the clock you're on the meter sorry it's a bad eastern european cab driver it was wonderful you guys lisp is pissing me off okay let's be quicker wow wolf being a massive racist of different languages tusk tusk that's wolf for you why don't they say about massive racist what this kid needs to go back to playing fortnite oh yeah he probably plays fortnite when will fortnite die are we looking at like a few years not soon enough just everywhere when will epic die hopefully next next hour fucking epic i was listening to um fringies podcast with apper band and the amount of times they talk about a game that's been announced that's on the epic exclusive i was just like oh they've bought so many games you're the worst people you need to be flushed down a toilet or something but also they don't get up from the sewer for a while i want them to sit down there for a while yeah like it not until after deconvention yes then me read big good shamus really needs some speech therapy i mean i yes but like i'll paste it to you guys he said really means him it's really needs some speech therapy before dnd there was kasey hudson and mac walters a reference anyone know those names kasey hudson one of the guys from bio where i don't know is it these are also terrible rise is that the the joke i feel like i've heard that's gotta be from bio where right hold on i don't know that out the other name kasey hudson uh slowly zooms yeah mass effect oh he's talking about the mass effect the re-ending ah oh yeah that makes sense um slowly zooms in i'd like to see you make a show that's the best counter argument to any criticism you can't make it therefore you can't criticize it done and done well i did i remade the long night in my latest video go check it out i'm looking forward to it first gels apok nick challenged me to do with the cinematographer cinematographer did in the long night so i took a few action figures my lighter and i remade it lispy something milk i'm not sure what that emoji is but i'm on board with lispy milk no movie reviewer has ever snapped a dvd yeah i was gonna say that's actually like a big trademark of like channel awesome days where they would be like oh red light media still do it like the whole like we'll destroy the tape like i was so angry i snapped the tape that shows clip restaps it he's like you did it buddy did it naps a dvd oh he's insane yep this kid's a double massive at more i'm so glad i found your channel you've encouraged me to think critically and to put more effort into formulating my opinions could you shout out my show let's talk shit it's a topic heavy gaming podcast on youtube let's talk shit gaming on youtube they talk about games i imagine and they like to think critically and formulate opinions in relation to that and uh yeah lts gaming is another way to find them but um so was that i have microwave to dvd don't don't best part of the sonic changes the people crying on twitter that the director is siding with the fans i wouldn't be surprised if the flaming lips hated that too flaming flaming lips and i don't know the game reference i didn't know people were upset that the director decided to change sonic the only one i know is that i'm upset no no no not like you know what i mean like upsetting in defense of the film was on unironically upset okay why are we building a 10 year old again sorry for missing it that's offensive that man was clearly 13 at least i'm just i can't believe you said that james i'm so upset sorry for missing your summons my lunch ended and i had to go back to work my bed that's okay james you you're doing justified you didn't necessarily miss out on a lot if that was the video you came back to i actually kind of have to apologize for um people didn't know that they would hate it oh yeah that's in relation to the whole like why'd you keep watching it if you hate it maybe the next episode is good you just stop watching anything that gets anything bad i don't um people also slow down to look at car accidents that's true yeah there's a big argument for how i like watching these things i like watching a train wreck and that can be entertaining because i don't know about you guys but like i like watching bad films a lot we have a whole thing on efap for it actually it's efap movies where well have we watched we haven't watched any good things on it yet but soon that's my teaser that's what me and my friends well because i'm old so when i was like wolf's age that's what we did we didn't have youtube channel so we went to the movies and talk shit in the movie theaters when usually on a day where not a lot of people are there we try to be respectful but i that's where i honed my skills your nit behind your skills you don't appreciate my art soo well i was high while watching art that was the deal yeah that's good enough i think i don't make sense that's uh why do some people think the fans are bad for wanting a better product because they're entitled and they couldn't make it themselves and when they argue um that there's not enough conversations in dark rooms they're wrong because there's been like three even five even i don't know arguing that explains everything everything like the idea that like i said my video over two over the first resource is like okay so you complain that there's like not enough dark room conversations like what how did you where did you mola what do you think of this guy saying the scene is perfect wolf excuse me cinematic perfection 10 out of 10 not enough water ig n 2019 yeah that pretty much wolf's response to that was was exactly what i was looking for and it wasn't a theory scholar of the last dawn there are a lot of dawn memes in the chat over dawn hollow dawn dawn peaks the dawn rises the wicker dawn donk rooms border dawn a silent dawn dawn gate the dawn we saw that day zero dawn dawn block bullcup we does dawn uh dawn's new groove dawn space program don lander dawn of the dawn good dawn of the town don tays inferno dawn to the longest dawn watershed dawn dawn and dawn does this guy think that george rmine isn't gonna change stuff based on the fan reactions uh yeah by the way like if anyone said no he's gonna stick exactly what it is like there's no way he's gonna be able to avoid this influencing his choices and how he's gonna do everything if ever he wasn't happy with the ending yeah i've heard that as well like this is no way uh that we get in the same thing it's not gonna happen or if we do it'll at least have the fleshed out context to make it work the books are gonna flatten the tv show and it finally gets released if it gets released it's just gonna be a which is like a 0.1 percent chance be released it sounds to me that like the battle for the dawn will be the sorry the dawn i should just end right there uh it'll be in win the winner and then the denari stuff will be a dream for spring and and it might even start out like this is mopping up after the battle for good and evil and then they build up the denari's thing throughout that entire book and that would kind of maybe work yeah old seasons are in anime why not for this i just don't don't it's not a thing i don't know maybe one day um is this guy unaware that devil may cry five exists i don't know what that counters because i don't know what was said at the time but probably not he's probably not aware of a lot of things eat pray done uh did this guy just say we want a stealing solo that's the thing jeff is working on right yeah that's jeff's uh that's jeff's comic book from world class bullshitters don't subscribe go yeah subscribe to world class bullshitters they're trying to right now they're trying to okay there's a big william shatner thing going on with uh unblocked doomcock i don't know why shatner blocked doomcock but he did it's i know he got doomcock blocked and uh for a thousand dollars the charity that he unblocked doomcock and then world class bullshitters asked shatner hey will you come on the show and he said sure for 30 000 of my charity so i think we're in the process of trying to a thousand uh i i see i'm looking at the twitter feed a little bit while i'm on this and it seems like it's gone a little sideways i think we should kind of i don't know i think it went a little sideways to be honest with you but otherwise that's what twitter does uh maybe we should i don't know try to raise 30 000 for the charity might be cool get him on world class bullshitters i don't know where it stands though right now i was talking to jeff in the morning that'd be cool as hell get uh the chat on get the shat on the shat on uh get shat on i don't know so i'm just i'm just gonna realize as it's written okay agreement mohler and the equally loved adopted boys the new terminator sounds no good very but why talk about that when dash spider-man is coming out geode can you uh post that in the chat so i can see it's it's definitely one that needs deciphering but i think i understood the majority of that uh agreement mohler and the equally adopted boys dash the new terminator sounds dash no good very but dash why talk about that when spider-man is coming out dash geode spider-man i put down agreements get a lot of it jay your video is influential i'm proud you you for once you infected efap i mean that's that doesn't usually happen we usually just infect other people's channels what's geode i'm disappointed you don't know what that is watch watch jay's latest video i'm in it geode oh i'm really watching who's jay i'm sorry who's jay where's this video he's a massive jay xy uh is his his massive name he's uh on youtube he runs a channel that was previously known as sin sins he's kind of a jack of all trades you have no idea what he's going to release next but um he recently did a video criticizing a browser game for game of thrones and like it's terrible and then you made a follow-up looking at some of the defenses in the comments that were rather amusing geode it's funny he went through a whole character arc he was our enemy now he's our friend who knows what will happen eventually maybe he'll become the villain again it'll be an interesting like complete arc maybe we'll become the villain wheel wheel oh i'm really behind that's a super chat just says i'm really behind all right peter uh peter was i'm elf sometimes i wonder if the superchats are like we're accidentally tapping into random thoughts that are going through the world and they just end up we man should play tirion in game of thrones reboot we man is that a superhero we man um proto de veto bilbo baggins proto de veto uh what about the midget from seinfeld i don't know i never sold that show yeah well who was that i can't even think of there being a midget in seinfeld because you're a midget racist that's true as the consumer is all that's true i'm gonna argue with that uh dan daniel charles danie woodburn wow with us daniel charles danie woodburn did they're that his parents just like gave up on his name at the point to the day print twice that they were like good or maybe they thought he was gonna be tall and he needed a longer name and came out the opposite i don't know some kind of ironic naming or something but his name is taller than him you stack the letters up it's taller than uh oh we managed from jackass okay i didn't know that because i'm fucking watch jackass since i was like died years old don don and donnie but uh fair enough as the consumer i'm entitled to a good product of my it's my right to bitch till blue in the face and if i'm unsatisfied that is true should run with that until those rights are taken away because man is it nice to get your thoughts and feelings out there there it is boys something involving captain marvel being sexist we must be forgiven for our sins we are evil bigots that deserve damnation it's tough to get through defab with some kind of reference to that then again we have covered uh a lot of defense videos for captain marvel 2 those those have been interesting gary you've missed out really fun ones especially the legal legal one that was uh and like watch his video after you told me about it did you love it yeah i kind of want to make a video about it but then after i uh i saw that our boy um oh god what was the name the kid we were just watching he's got one too he's got a defensive captain marvel video too if you saw just like three videos to the right from the one we were covering you told me about the first game we were covering sheamus sheamus has a we're too hard on we would too uh hard on brie larson or something like that which is well i mean i like that i still haven't watched this terrible movie and i'm here shitting on people who are saying bad things about the movie and things yeah you are my video you pretty much sold the film all i remember is she blows up and gets superpowers and then she fights an old man and kills don who's don he kills the don the sequel the don comes back with like a prosthetic hand that could you know vaporize her he comes back as a cable dead wolf better be using in sexas wolf better be using a game cube controller for sbu mash brothers ultimate how would i plug that it aren't gamecube gamecube gamecube control aren't the controller ports like i'm sorry i'm you dying yeah i guess so uh but aren't the gamecube controllers like the little ports like big old circle things like i'm assuming either you get an adapter or they've actually made one uh i mean i know that there's actual switch controllers i haven't gotten one of those yet because i don't have the money to do that but well the man will will condemn you if if that's not okay i mean i've been able to play it fine so far so you'd actually learn the controls uh truly there is no other more horrifying beast plaguing the earth than a canadian a canadian york shiamen we're doomed oh like across canadians are all terrible you're not canadian what about a canadian york shaman oh i am not canadian oh thank god i don't have a problem with them though but uh don't worry one day you'll know the truth uh doesn't this cabin boy realize that the okay hand gesture is an alt right symbol i mean the media got it from 4chan so it must be true but yeah if you couldn't trust anyone it's 4chan going out of business sale star wars merch unsold if it who's gonna buy a rostiko doll that's just always gonna be the case just like who and why feel like the new people would buy it would be ones trying to prove that people would buy it that's it or even yeah all people are trying to burn it either way the haunting of dawn house uh the true enemy of game of thrones was the dark rooms we can converse to conversated in along the way yeah that's that was it that was the big reveal dnd are going to talk about it in the documentary releasing in five years from now revealing that the dark rooms were the big sort of foreshadowing of the lighter areas that happened later oh yeah oh okay that's phenomenal storytelling is what we call it amazing smaller if you're well so that means you're 12 percent 12 percent of your ancestry is sheep i'm pretty sure it's more than 12 but i thought he was gonna say you're 12 gay i don't know again i think it'd be more of that still uh anthony's a pretty cool guy i met him on that massive mingle dot com we're getting pizza later please don't make a gadelb longer than 15 minutes by a higher braid function will shatter in protest i'm hoping to make it tad but we'll have to you realize if you made like a two hour gadelb you might act i would be responsible for the deaths of many people ifa baby update still no baby but i found an outlet yay what are you gonna do with that charge the phone for the baby charge the baby yeah it just comes with an outlet in its back you gotta charge it read a response theory equals my headcanon is real oh yes that works ifa baby update baby is coming oh god there's a character out going on here story arc of some kind if the boot crosses to the other horse what is that a reference if the boot crosses to the other horse chicken dies when it reaches the other side of the road and it meets dawn i always feel like i'm i actually just empty headed when i get things i don't understand i feel like i that there's a reference there that i know of when i can't think of it or maybe i'm just still getting requiem for a dawn the incredible dawn dawn wick watch dawns dawn was my car or the dawn world temple of dawn the dawn to redemption dawn hard with a vengeance slender dawn slender dawn live for your dawn hard gross money at screen hey more like is some more add it to the 50 euros from earlier makes it easier to divide by three all right he's donated so it's a it's 50 euros each now okay i will make sure ragas and wallof get the money i now remember why unsub from what culture yeah this won't make you as rich as it this won't make you as rich as you think it do hey muller just saw that movie bright burn i was convinced brandon was the villain but then he crushed a girl's hand for being mean to him that makes him the hero like captain marvel yeah yeah um if anybody says anything to you that could be interpreted as threatening in any way shape or form killed them i think that's someone said oh it's sorry it's what i teach my kids yeah it's worked out so far this efat baby has to be named don name your kid don oh yeah even if it's a girl girls can be named on i think you read this one out well but it really it really do be like that it's a tone of housework wake the f up we have king landings to burn uh this what culture guy made a youtube channel to prove to their english teachers we're wrong in giving him an f but he proved them right no that's just your opinion language is subject shot up shot up and go read the goddamn books dr ritardo that idiot is a goddamn tool we don't know who they're referring to i'm gonna assume it was the what culture man uh muller we're getting really upset just type t and the brood will be all over this massive like wolf on a pizza or quinton on stupid uh if every one game of thrones viewer just left their room the numbers would be the same sorry if we hold very lucrative jobs to basic standards of competence what we're entitled to is irrelevant what we got was crap so sick of this lived on repeat you know the view count like the ratings thing is the views counted from like active viewers at any one time and then they collect the the peak number i'm assuming that's how you do it what i've always wondered ever since youtube being you know they kind of click that's anything over a few seconds so is it how many people watch the entire episode or half yeah that's a good point how much engagement how much click through was there and then did they run a poll at the end of the episode saying you know thumbs up or down i'd like to see those results personally i'd love to i'm sure people watch you and watch me who don't like us oh yeah weird hate watches as they're known and self-admitted as well i believe eric said he hate watched hate watched his podcast i was on and i thought that was really weird like what do you refer to it that way yourself you know it's like closet canadian milk all right it sucks but that's what good storytelling do oh yeah you read that one i was like uh in classic dnd fashion they cut away from the dialogue with gray when all the lannisters called him the n-word and cut back when he threw the spear ah makes sense now more context great video what culture i wish you good fortune in the wars to come that uh could be looked at as threatening so i'm gonna have to ban you what did what was the quote he actually said in there you're not as smart as you think you do or not as clever as you do let me have a look what did i write down remember what a lifetime of whoring and drinking and quipping doesn't actually make you as smart as you think you do i just love that he says not as smart as you think you do like is that not the most ironic thing you could possibly say what i mean when you make statements about like intelligence or language or just like even grand grandma nazi sort of stuff it's like you better make sure you've got you'll grab a correct at that point i mean i'm not as smart as you think you do oh boy hey moeller and wolf last week i sat down with og styles battlefront 2 and listened to your conversation on civil war and with that one tlj weirdo it was hilarious and i thoroughly enjoyed it thanks for existing no problem it's kind of funny how we move on in time but we keep it like that's almost where it stops in a way the whole like debating tlj and meteor generals the dots are great debate such a disaster because that was before e-fab wasn't it yeah predates the fappening to check it out gary it's a nightmare in wolf debate a guy who loves tlj he started crying several times is that on the chat can i find that somewhere i will send you the link there you go it's on my channel that would be great viewing i might actually give it a listen it's been a long time since i've listened to that uh yeah here it is uh hello gary this is your conscience from james moor apparently he's your conscience oh shit here uh there you are i've been looking for you yeah that's the video if you have a free how long is it two hours exactly there you go oh memories anyway uh just finished listening to dog bite stream monday matt sides with vox can you guys duplicate your content to a certain other platform whose name i apparently cannot type here idelb is hspeech um you talk matt to hide with vox is that a joke it's got to be a joke oh do you not know about that really oh i feel bad now yeah he uh he defended uh quite a decent just go watch uh his video of the subject or watch me rags for you sorry that must be on jar ball price really uh what is he trying to do that's weird okay now maybe it's not interesting gentle but yeah uh i mean as long as the videos are still up on on youtube i've got all mine backed up locally so if ever i was booted off i would just find a platform immediately and get them all duplicated or whatever but um unless you mean like audio only or whatever but um yeah uh just i think rags might look it's bit shoot is the one everyone recommends right it's like a duplicate thing that can move all your videos over depending on how things go might have to look into it thanks for making me feel a lot better about unsubscribing for what culture a long time ago no problem uh did he say mad queen father i don't know if you look through everything he said he he talks like a weird man you're saying lots of weird things i mean the one that we found was clearly the best but you know i think there's probably more in there that would easily tear out able to laugh at able uh general grievous is the best always character why general grievous really like why general grievous not obi one not luke not vader not han solo grievous the guy with no character arc again or personality really only cool because he looks cool but that is cool uh would you ever write your episode seven eight nine probably not if i was going to put loads of effort into writing something like that i would probably rather make my own story at that point um but you'll find loads of options for that online i imagine like lots of fan fictions and fan content that's going to obliterate anything ryan johnson has written no offense ryan you're you're a nice all offense meant ryan all offense meant uh if you ever get invited to a british panel show because of efab would you do it probably i don't know why the hell i'd be invited thanks to efab i don't know how that would make sense but uh really big in the uk we can only hope i do can you even imagine if we were like offered an actual show the three of us had a table and we just watched videos and talked about memes like all the producers a lot of people would watch that the producers like why is this successful it's like i don't know and then we sell out at one point i'm like one of the host guests replaced and saw covering videos that are like good and we're saying they're bad and everyone's just like oh man season eight of efab that's where it went downhill change the writers you know this is the first episode of season four isn't it yes actually and i was i changed my icon just because we transferred seasons it's like tv shows where a character changes the hairstyle and you're like what the fuck i changed my icon like six times the stream that's amazing yeah here's some money also when is that terrible doom movie coming out i think we checked and i think it's already out yeah and we will do it for efab movies but i've got a long backlog to edit for efab movies right now i'm mini i forgot that it was even coming out until i saw the uh fringies podcast with rags like yesterday and they were like oh it's out and i was like oh okay um yeah because i still gotta edit the reaction thing that we did for the sonic trailer there exists a recording of b fringian wolf reacting to the sonic trailer um i haven't edited yet and i feel bad for that can't wait until we can release the uh the fellowship of the ring oh yeah watch it'll be great uh i can't believe that it's insane uh watch the efab anime opening it's absolute goi and uh we have i believe we played it on one of the efabs i'll never be able to know which specific dubber but it was definitely um while we're at it has j seen the remaining parts of lord the rings already i seriously doubt it i highly doubt it and wolf is planning his murder he's just getting through all the red tape uh wolf more ever since the last jedi not so great debate i gained a genuine respect for you too though aggravating you both dealt with your guests with patience and objective dialogue wolf radially singing songs this was cracking me up with that shit i remember that what he would think really hard of an argument he could use and i would just be like hello darkness mild friend thanks so much for him but fun for us no god no has he has there's been interaction with him and anyone else since then i don't know oh man um thanks so much for the work all of you produce no problemo holy crap i call you guys live for once found all of you through rags i drive for a living and you need to make more efabs and i'm running out i mean you've got another how far are we again we're six hours there you go that's the least one drive hopefully too long commutes the baby is actually here now yay all right we just need blue jay to confirm the baby's name is the dawn the dawn the first thing has to be the middle name has to be done the dawn uh watch the efab anime opening oh we have name the new baby tonal please yeah we'll accept tonal too don tonal what should the last name be the seventh i don't know don tonal his last name uh the pineapple is petrified because the leaves would become sharp spikes more painful that way i can't go easy on you guys with these questions christ i mean it's there thoughtful very thoughtful i mean thank you for clarifying why the pineapple was petrified but i would pay money to say that maybe again uh say my master saur on the great bids the welcome i think he actually did say that all you said all the lines from that scene yeah hey muller are you gonna cover the memes that'll be next episode we've got loads though there are some that are specific to this episode that i'll do once we get through the superchats is like nine pictures seven pictures oh my god this is so fast hey muller oh wait uh welcome to efab season four episode one take my shackles you awesome beautiful massives why thank you gary as a comics guy what do you think of justice league the animated series i think it might be the best translation of dc characters to the screen uh agreed totally agreed i love justice league uh the animated and uh justice league unlimited i think it was very good hashtag cyclops was right what did cyclops say that was proven right that'd be like if you touch her i'll fucking kill you but he doesn't kill him but there you gotta get back need to have a touch too so implication is implied beautiful phrase makes sense to me no neurotic i'm a little behind isn't cyclops dead under nazi and wasn't his past self traveled to the future to be on be a champions to be the champions currently right now in the yes i think so i haven't read a marvel comic in uh three years to clarify who knows he's dead and a nazi edin uh yeah um last time i checked on poor cyclops when i was reading this was right around i had my store uh uh he was dating emma frost been a long time since i read i once i uh sold my comic shop i kind of put away the comics for a little while and i only read what i like now and i was never i'm not a fan of what marvel had done to the x-men ever since disney took over because they kind of put them in the back burner and marvel comics suck right now they're terrible they're just godawful unreadable yeah that sucks reading them all my life and uh now i read mostly dc uh listen i know it's your first time but dude you literally took forever to figure out the magnet the highlight of the stream was tonal schlong that was from james more uh wolf what basically saying you took ages to figure out the magnet puzzle and the highlight of the stream was tonal schlong the magnet puzzle oh yeah i know what he's talking you guys should have seen my attempt at trying to do the maze ball puzzle yesterday i was talking to mauler and i was having a very hard time where i have to like tilt the switch from side to side and forward and backward to get the stupid ball to go through the stupid maze and then i have to make the maze go up really sharply so the stupid ball goes out of the stupid maze under the stupid bridge into the stupid hole and then i have to tilt the maze in a certain stupid way so i can fly down to the stupid maze to get the stupid chest that has the stupid gear and i was having a lot of stupid fun yeah that was a thing that happened now i'm waiting to see my grandparents favorite show being butchered send captain ma sent captain me too back to the 60s and film here fight the ultimate toxic white male the thongs from happy days uh the thing that's happening are they really thinking to redo like happy days or it was just a joke i don't know i never know these things it had to be just a joke but you never know these days you never know that's the thing um if you're supposed to be good you always have to like i am i don't worry i am i thought the buffy reboot when they announced it was a joke in my chat and i clowned the guy who told me about it i'm like shut up get out of here and they're like no it really happened i'm like okay okay uh sci-fi book recommendation tomorrow's kin by nancy crests i'm about halfway through the first book and it's pretty neat you guys recommend it really recognize the name because i like i said i don't i'm not big on books i do not know i know i'm not of it i'm fair enough uh or in the blind forest is just food and gully dark souls i can't really disagree just say that doesn't sound like a bad thing i don't know uh how far down the guest queue is louis louis um i i think he's pretty high up as far as i know it's it's more a matter of making sure everyone's free at the same time as well um they're all gonna get here eventually like i said it took us uh a billion years to get like er an act man now everyone wants them again already it's a hard life and chateau versity we'll get them all back we'll have a billion episodes it'll be great oh god um after super chats i gotta show you both something okay that's all it is uh what was the last book you a hype for wolf uh it was this book called fuck i still have it on my shelf spirit of the wolves it was the third book in a trilogy that i really liked i skipped two days of school the first day to read the first two books was they're pretty short and then the third day to read the first the final book and man was it a horrible mess and i never read the series again which sucks because i read the first two books like six times each and i've only touched the third book once and the i mean the whole third book was awful but the ending was so insulting that i was like well i'm never touching that again it was very sad that was the first mass effect three experience i ever had there was so many more to come yeah and then the follow-up super chat behind that one was i bet it was twilight wolf is not a huge fan of twilight are you gonna do a rage or a praise for endgame there is this the stream with er will basically go over all of that but the show answer is that i'm probably gonna do some kind of extended breakdown because i don't feel a rage or praise or a mere really represents the sort of takedown i would have of that film is complicated so it would probably be more of a neutral breakdown instead um but yeah i don't know when as well too many projects mine's gonna blow up um i'll give it a shot when i have time media versus tonald down of thrust tis is supposed to be justice that's that's a weird one but i think it works thrust is instead of the circle of life is a circle of death if only the death would take for our sake i'm sure that's in reference to someone who needed to die i'm not 100 sure i think oh that would have only who was the person we said should die recently i can't remember there's a few of i think it was uh uh uh clear uh the what culture guy uh what culture i'm clearing i do like the long dark tea time of the dawn okay a little hitchhiker or douglas adams love there that's actually uh i can't believe that these people are still going on with like the castlevania dawn of souls man don go marvel wars six return of the dawn like man they're gonna go through literally everything in the it's a good representation of how the collective chat have probably seen every franchise and ip that ever existed and they're just running it through every time we get a new meme like medea was was placed through every single thing that ever existed as far as i can tell uh the dawn of a nation that's the little super chat at least destiny too is coming to steam hey i told fringy about that the other day to you yeah i can't say not why anybody we're dying guy isn't it wait it's free to play is that no you sure it's 30 bucks destiny because um alex mentioned or is it going free to play i remember hearing something about if it is that they're gonna rip a bunch of people off because i'm pretty sure it's 30 bucks on steam let me look it up destiny to yeah 35 dollars well uh maybe alex was talking about something else i mean i'm not giving track of destiny he was they were uh giving out destiny on pc for free on battle net for like a week or so uh while back and one of my friends told me about it and i was like i i would play it for free and i'd still want to refund i'm never touching destiny again bungee's gotta re-earn my trust after the first game uh from eric stewart hey nude rottick why is your name nude rottick uh the channel name is because this is a long story i'll try to keep it really short i was in my comic store i was talking to a friend of mine neurotic uh and i thought he said nerd rottick is i don't know a pun or something i'm like ah i'm i'm gonna see and i immediately went and see uh checked and see if the domain name had been taken and it hadn't so i right there and then i took the domain name and i don't really know why i'm like oh i'll use it for you know a podcast or something for my comic store for a couple years and then it turned in it just morphed into this so yeah maybe it was destiny man i don't know but uh yeah it was just an i misheard somebody thought it sounded cool at the time it probably doesn't sound very cool now but you know in 2012 it sounded cool and yeah that's the origins of a nerd that sells erotica duh there you go you really and it has a double meaning and you're a nerd well now it has a triple meeting there you go triple meaning tell that story and be like it was all those thoughts at the same time created a beautiful masterpiece um what do you guys think about oh i go ahead it created something my wife can't believe is real it's it's pretty hard explaining to your in-laws because i'm like again i'm i'm old so i've got kids i've got in-laws and sisters and they're all old them well yeah you know i quit my job at tesla like a really good job to do this and it's kind of hard to explain to people sometimes i know i feel that my sister's wedding um you distant family members were like uh what are you doing now you talk about films and i was like yeah they were like how does that how does that make money just kind of shrug you know at that point it's too hard to explain imagine trying to explain all the memes to them it's impossible uh what do you guys think about the cnet hit piece against gaming youtube is including the beloved tonal loke tonal look and yeah yeah no it's uh just another moment of the bead like you guys suck now tell me how to be as popular as you guys you'll get there one day once move over evolve and stuff but yeah it was it was weird uh i didn't actually read the article the piece itself i just saw the screenshots and i was like huh how about that i just the last video lashing out of irrelevancy that's what it is what moeller just said alice in donderland uh hey molly you've been killing babies on the daily anyone been killing babies on the daily what is this what it's an editing term all right there's an editing term called babies yes that is a professional editor's term why is it called that in well when you're in the editing room a director will use it too there's parts of your film you just have to cut out but you love every piece of your film so it's killing babies uh okay i'm just imagining like some dude and glasses and like a button-up shirt like looking at a script throwing it on a table and he's like kill that baby yeah well god in hollywood they might actually mean it jay will reveal he never really cared about any of you and then return to the right opinion to be with him till the end why would jay go to the right opinion i don't think there's any connection there is that the huge betrayal that he was the the right opinion spy this whole time cue anakin's betrayal from the revenge of the set soundtrack game kube construlas the word of wolf 2019 the pizzas turned him okay um i replaced pizza with brain cells the dawn the actor for the dawn tweeted his desire for a rematch that's a thing that happened apparently that um i obviously it's a joke he said coming 20 78 the dawn searches for his motorcycle across time and space reeking his vengeance upon carol probably his ghost probably i accept uh the dawn will wipe the floor with his flat ass that's that you can't mind that's me probably sexist unless you'd say that the dawn has a flat ass but i mean that's you know back religious game kube controllers are objectively the best way that is true you guys are great oh and wolf is too i guess probably that's a lie got the special man um i'm i'll hopefully have a little something goliath related for you guys next week oh that's from mean repository oh boy it's really living up to his name oh i i must have watched our reaction to the lord of the uh the lord of the rings one like 20 times like the whole jay has not seen part of the rings they can't it's great hello mallard just finished watching all of your dark souls to content series and critique very good what are your thoughts on bloodborne and secure i love bloodborne uh but it's very flawed i wish it were there was some tweaks made and then i haven't played secure yet one of those games where i was like i'm gonna play it as a reward for finishing the video that i was currently working on and then i finished it and i was like no i'm gonna wait until i do the next one and then the next one and now i'm like fuck i might never play that game i'll get to it at some point um don't go man any comments on oj twitter okay to ask oj oj's twitter oj simpson has a twitter eight okay he just follows him like a bunch of murderers yeah and no he left a video like his first tweet was like hey this is oj um just gonna let you know and and and then he says at the end of his thing he says i've got a lot of i got some getting even to do oh god i'm like oh no uh the fbi follows him i would imagine i would hope so oh my god could you even imagine like the kind of person that would unironically follow oj simpson's twitter world is full of them braggers reviewed don't out 76 hello i'm moeller and i love being i kind i'm not gonna read that in good conscience i love being friended that's what i will replace the word with uh not even joking i imitate moeller's attitude from not so great debate to settle family arguments and it works yeah i mean you know no one else is you know it's not like i'm stoic at every single argument but i remember that what i was trying to be as calm as possible and just ask the guy questions um wolf found it difficult because the guy was saying things that were very um how would you describe it wolf in one word in sufferable there you go no drotic opinion on young justice hey i i can't uh i can't wait for it to finish i think it's destroying i don't know if he has a twitter account anymore they're gone now it was trending it's uh it's the real oj 32 at real let's see uh what is is young justice like justice league but young or oh he just doesn't have a check mark yet yeah did you get it i am really disappointed by the fact that he has 732 000 followers good lord you don't see it here i did uh yeah what is young justice injustice is it's it's like the teen titan so it's a animated dc show with robin and and uh it's was started i god i forgot what it started out on it was on regular tv for a while and now it's on dc streaming uh it had been away for a while but dc streaming brought it back it's one of the better animated comic book shows it's taken you know it's not done all cutesy like the teen titans one is it's you know very good storytelling for animated show and i love it hey i'm a kid loves it so a nerderotic jr watch it all the time uh moeller do you run like a welshman love from a fellow british uh yeah that was really the joke in family guy races runs like a welshman i was always like what does that even mean is that a thing a welshman run in a particular way but yes uh love to you too fellow british uh um oh yeah last time wolf said he'd never seen batman the animated series gary please kill him um no i just want to you if he hasn't seen he has time to see it you know let's give him time to see it in time someday yeah let's know a bunch of people who are following oj by the way like there's a bunch of people we know following oj now well i mean the thing is a lot of people will probably follow him out of just curiosity i think it makes sense i want is like he has a tweet that says taken an early look at fantasy football patrick uh monaham or whatever was my clear number one blah blah blah am i missing anyone and i just want to leave comments uh other than the two people you murdered no i just want to leave that every time tweet something and that's gotta be happening i mean you know let's just see uh let's never forget captain marvel batted stan lee by pushing down his script on the bus stan lee was elder abused by an illegal immigrant rip stan lee never get the justice he deserves now the will of dawn she left the planet uh since you're gonna put your name earlier try pronouncing it monostion monostion monostion monostion monostion sanded over this way i want to see it uh well this is okay so this is how it's pronounced apparently monostion nos monostion i don't know this sounds funny to me uh but yeah it's fair enough that's how it's spelled journey to the center of the dawn who knows what that would undo it uh also you introduced me to many people but i knew nerdy before i knew you that's what i meant oh yeah no that's uh i i just like the all of the the worlds collide and there's fans that are spread all over the place is cool youtube is a both a big world and a small world it's on it really is some of the memes are not freaking hilarious uh we don't have time for that but god i love you guys's content thanks for being you no problem also awakens critique part three soon it's on the way i have not begun editing it yet i got gave a throat stuff in the way first but yes it's on the way it's always on the way but not soon unless soon means potential years even i wouldn't want to say that like you know there's a reasonable amount of time i could expect it to be but if i ever say like it should be around here it'll turn out to be 10 years later than that i'd never liked it it do when it do that's the way to say it um i literally just got out of godzilla again and you masses are still going yes but we nearly finished though we're coming to the end now uh just tuned in hope you all did great time travel six hours back in time uh please watch a start is now it's short and amazing i'm afraid i think that gary and wolf probably would like to maybe go back to living life in in a few moments because um this has been a wonderful yet long one uh yes the uh are the police still following oj what like on twitter do the police have a have a jerk out that would be funny uh wolf will you release a kindle vision of your book yeah uh for those of you that didn't see the stream i'm working i having a guy i commissioned a guy to make a better cover and then i'm going to get someone to um reformat the inside of the book don't know how long it'll take though um and now a few memes how to train your dawn don is born no dog no life the way some made from uh like my dad had made about you can see you're breathtaking keanu fat boa that's a long lost brother i love that clip oh yeah it's also it's like a super times the head is so big these these are rush jobs they won't i don't really be unclear of where this would originate in but i i don't have this one either uh entirely but it's definitely a pretty long word thrust 2077 uh i think that came from my stream a couple days ago that this was for me saying the human it just sounds like a guy called him and he does look like a hermit just the mustache really seals it he came back from the year 2020 to ask for a cup of sugar this one i think was suitable for this every frame of pizza every frame of pizza i still have some left they consumed half mine while i was doing this a great one to finish the night off why captain marvel was missing during end game carol are we seeing you here next month not likely later at the orphanage for children whose parents got fannosed oh no she's lighting the orifice on fire and the dawn's protecting the orifice yes i love that i'm gonna freaking tweet that god damn it that's beautiful beautiful guys are the best uh you guys before we leave i do gotta show you guys are you both on the watch together still oh uh you want to be live as well yeah uh give me yes i'm still oh i have all or does rock okay so this this shouldn't be longer than like 20 or so seconds but it this is a tonald clip and tonald says a thing that's very funny it has come to my attention that certain individuals on the internet feel inclined to stir up political commentary on behalf of this poster in the recent trailer for cyberpunk 2077 it's a transgender woman with a gigantic schlong proudly standing at attention i understand i feel i feel bad for gary but hearing totaled say that is uh you have to slow and hold it it's it's enhanced greatly when you slowed it let's slow and hold it say transgender woman with a gigantic schlong proudly standing at attention does it allow you to put it at point 25 speed do it i put it i did it the other day it's just incredible proudly standing at attention you need to hear that important this for science with a gigantic schlong proudly standing at attention um oh yeah uh last two super chests thanks wolf you like crack for my brain and oh my god thank you you rock more i mean assuming if you're the guy who did the art with captain marvel it's wonderful um thank you for it assuming that's either way wonderful stuff and um yeah we made it to the end um thank you very much to to alex for staying as long as he did for wolf being here for the whole time wonderful guests and our special guest nerderotic would you like to talk about your channel for a moment while i post links to it over and over again in chat sure uh thanks again for having me on guys it was a lot of fun i've been looking forward to this i uh my name is gary i run a channel called nerderotic and i bitch about pop culture but i occasionally tell you about stuff i like as well i try to be even-handed as much as i can but a lot of stuff is really bad right now so i have no control over that especially game of thrones i just dropped a game of thrones video earlier today if you have time check it out it's a interview with miguel sapoknik and he i don't know insight that's probably unintentional about what happened to game of thrones season eight um if you subscribe you'll find that i turn up in a couple of his videos here in their streams and whatever i have you and he covers a lot of the stuff that i cover on my channel so it's a pretty easy sort of substitute me as well i don't see why you wouldn't at least give him a shot guys it's a lot of fun but got a wonderful take and lots of experience on on many topics and yeah i'm pretty sure we're probably gonna do some more stuff in the future there's something brewing with buffy that's something's gonna happen yeah well both you guys uh have the keys to nerderotic you're welcome anytime sweet thank you anytime you want to jump on you are more than welcome love to have you on it would be fun we will probably have you back here eventually just you never know with how long these things will take it's a nightmare something but um yes you'll be permanently welcome to just drop in whenever you like i'm assuming we're not at a full cast of some kind media sucks right but hey really does we get to talk about it and that's the fun part um it's it's not a lot of content they give us a lot of content the the hermitator will be the hermitator in the last day later this year will blow up a lot of channels i imagine yeah i can't i can't imagine like i imagine all of us are gonna be covering the hermitator it's gonna be horrible it's oh and then that leads us right into episode nine as well it's yeah there's plenty left in this year of horrors god it's getting deep but yeah that uh got schlonald loke and you must play that again for rags when he comes back we we definitely um and that that leaves us at the end of efep 39 uh if you'd like to find a link to nude rottick's channel it's at the top of the description and uh if you want to see this episode subscribe to my second channel the reupload will be there uh and that's yeah more stuff is coming no promises for when videos are coming but it's coming 100 and we'll see you possibly this sunday for another episode with uh the rag is returning um thank you all for watching thank you all for guesting thank you all for the very wonderful talents you put into these wonderful memes like i said we'll be showcasing them in the next episode thank you for the kind donations and for checking out the show we appreciate it we will see you next time goodbye goodbye