 Hey everyone, welcome. Hey. Hi. Hi. We have wrapped up Bintino Masaro's Costa Rica Shift Into Permanent Alignment Retreat. This is our last podcast that we are doing on site. And we have Hilary Hoffman and Gina Sutton joining us on the show. Hey. Hi. What a fun. Thanks for having us. Thanks Alice. This is good. This is good. Yeah. What a good form of completion. Yeah. To just dive into what we've been through and I think it's been a week so I'm really grateful to have connected with all of you. Me too. It's wild. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just say the least. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was beautiful seeing how the container that was formed by Bintino and the team over so many years of preparation ended up facilitating the eight people to identify their calling, get through their limiting beliefs, make declarations about just archiving things that no longer serve them and elevating and amplifying the most divine aligned purified service to other igniting global awakening things that rocket them forward. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It was cool to see the change in people. You could tell energetically at the beginning and you tell in yourself. Yeah. You're just in a totally different place. You feel completely different. Yeah. And then now here we are. Yes. And we're. Yeah. Yes. Like. I feel like I look completely different than I did when I walked in. Yeah. I felt like a zombie a week ago and then here I feel now just low light radiant and just like completely shifted on like not only an energetic but yeah vibrational level. It is wild. Yeah. Incredible and to like witness the yeah the container that it was so perfectly divinely placed and everything was like the shifts that they did even behind the scenes and like how they would kind of provoke us like you know make us really like dive into our own. I went through some serious phases of like self judgment and then I had to detach from that and that alone is so powerful because I realized that like I am not that and I can detach from that. Yeah. And like that's just like already been a thing and I'm just like whoa. So there's just been so much shift in my own perception and yeah limiting beliefs for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's yeah one of the main shifts is putting those limiting beliefs down and they just always seem like not they just don't seem true anymore and you just can't even believe them anymore and then your experience backs it up. And then you get really you're just like really convicted in that. Yeah. And it's really cool. Yeah. I love I love what you guys are saying that the behavior change follows these declarations. It's in a sense one has to have enough courage. Yeah. To identify these impurities these distortions and then to archive those to to heal and to integrate to transcend and include as is said by so many of the greats and so I love that a lot. I think from a macro level another way to view it is that in a sense even though we already came away from like the separate entity contraction right even though we already were like quite far away from that. Yeah. Even though we were already like quite far away into this more relaxed more expanded state it this retreat even further expanded and even further relaxed and even further identified the most nuanced distortions most nuanced layers of the cheeky cunt that is the ego. Yeah. Yeah. It was cool to feel that coming up during the retreat and you could feel the most there's some sort of distortion that felt the most tense and you probably will have different ones but it would come up in the retreat during the retreat and you're starting to understand how to work with that and it's really cool to be able to feel it like leave you and or you could just be like no like out of sheer will. Yeah. The will. Yeah. And then the conviction follows right after you keep doing that which is pretty cool to see the personal choice right like knowing that we always have that choice kind of discussing last night there's a buffet. How did you word that? Yeah. Yeah. We go from this buffet of options in the realm of suffering in the escape room the 3D matrix. We all have different escape rooms that we've programmed for ourselves out of but then there's also the buffet in terms of that was the root one and then there's the branched fruit one and then that's sort of where we end up blossoming which is why our callings are all very somewhat similar and igniting the global awakening but that's the buffet is why some people choose the word maybe truth and some people choose inspiration and people choose different words in that so yeah there's just like these two funny buffets. Yeah. Yeah. I like this buffet better. There are many more options you know. There are many more personal choices available that I had no clue existed that I didn't know I could leave my anxiety my depression and just reach an elevated state where that all is just like a choice to be made. Yeah. Instead of just like a state that I'm in I can be the observer and like zoom out of it instead of just like not being able to see the forest through the trees anymore like I'm not even in the forest anymore I'm like in like a little what are they called like a rocket ship rocket ship yeah a plane above it looking down yeah it's amazing you become even more macro level view than you were even before that's yeah that's huge because when you're in your problems you you can only think on that level of like how do I solve this like it very external and you don't have any perspective and then yeah as you go higher up and these these other states of consciousness you get all the perspective it all starts making sense and feels much lighter more like malleable and fun and yeah A drone. A drone. A drone. You can just see so much right above it and it's like you're flying over the old the old you in a way right like this you that is still like down there but it's just like much in a lower version of reality or whatever this reality is this matrix and you actually have the choice to see it for what it is instead of just being lost and that alone is such a shit because no like you can really align to your vibration now and just know that like this this feeling I can carry with me and then when I'm like kind of like rubber banded out away from this feeling I can choose to come back and I don't have to stay out of that alignment like I know that there was a better feeling right you know better you do better you feel better because you just know better and you can't I know yeah that's the good yeah once you see through Maya you can't unsee it and we were talking about this a bit last night is that the obsession with affinity and with transience and physicalism and the external is the simple shift needs to just go from the outside to the inside like it's taught in the parable of the prodigal son and all these mystic traditions and when you do that and you recognize that consciousness or awareness and infinity then you recognize that this is just one of our creations and that we are the permanent we are the source we are the infinitude that then this is just one song of our eternal symphony and so it's just that you know that simple shift and then just to play with the analogies to intertwine them I love the steak and rubber band analogy and the way that it plays with the escape room analogies really interesting it's like we condition this contracted separate entity escape room and then the rubber bands pulled out so the steak is the highest aligned guidance with our calling with full pure service to others God's love light and then the rubber band when it stretches out is like when you fall back into the person psychology you go with contraction and then the emotional guidance system comes and it's like yo when your rubber bands out here and you think that oh I'm going to extract peace and happiness from other people are from the world that then the emotional guidance system kicks in and you're told that you're sought your signal hey like catch this bring your rubber band back to the steak and keep aligning with the highest and that has to do with the escape room as well because in a sense these are like the little like walls you know in the escape room in a sense that you're dissolving these emotional guidance systems helping you dissolve the escape room walls bring the rubber band back to yeah yeah that's huge and it's it's so interesting that we live in a culture that doesn't value emotions or tries to cut you off from them and express yeah don't think about them they're kind of like just BS you know like oh you're feeling like shit it's okay like just it's completely disregarded like it doesn't mean anything almost and it's really cool to be able to connect back to your emotions your emotional guidance system because it it really is such a it's such guidance like if you just listen to that you can really start to tell when you're getting out of alignment because it just feels like shit and then where you feel like shit the more out of alignment you are and then you can shift back and then you start to feel just a sense of ease and you can start feeling that and it gets more subtle as you practice like I'm getting a little bit out and then you keep coming back so it's very experiential it's very like visceral you feel it vibrationally as you're like yeah adjusting yeah yeah like very tangible feeling eventually but I feel like I used to not even be able to realize when I was in that state whereas now yeah I'm like no and I've always felt that you have to really feel your emotions to heal them but like you know you have to right like that's a part of it it's part of the emotional guidance you have to really feel them but you also have the knowledge wisdom light within to know that like when you actually feel them that's how you release many people get stuck in this hamster wheel me being one of them in the past where I felt like I had to like just numb it out or run away from it distract myself ostracize and be like no I'm just gonna run from my like and numb it and then when you do that you literally just run hamster wheels back to it so when you choose and then it manifests in like dis ease in your body disease and like all kinds of things when you actually let that stress and that emotion and like depression build up in you instead of just feeling it then you can heal it because then you literally alchemize it from pain to healing and then release it into just knowing it's not yours it's not yours in into Creatorship yeah yeah the alchemistry happens we condition ourselves into the escape room into the contracted separate entity we alchemically undergo the processes of leveraging that emotional guidance to bring the rubber band back to the stage yeah and then as we align more and more with God's love light our own infinitude our own Creatorship that that becomes the highest signal metaphysically of who we are why we're here what we're doing that kind of stuff yeah yeah so what a realization yeah it's so nice to just be grounded in that and really keep focusing inward like you're saying that's the direction just like keep going back because really like Bantini says this like don't take your cue from your circumstances and I love that because a lot of the time we're looking around thinking oh shit like I need to change something out there or or even you just take it personally or you're disappointed or whatever but really it's like just keep shifting back yeah that's the abiding turning in playing with our this tripod has been playing with the word abiding great abides a perfect word because when you when you begin tasting like you taste because you can't not abide which is why it's perfect already and always already free but it's also perfecting in the sense that when you do recognize that you are the eternal sky of awareness that thought clouds and what not appear and disappear in you become more aware of the need to abide as awareness to no longer have the thought clouds sort of take your monkey mind yeah and you're just like resting in your more natural state yeah yeah and then abiding even further as the creator of even awareness itself experiencing the realities and so then you need to abide as that yeah so it should constantly in a sense be making the necessary just the positions between infinity and infinity and abiding as infinity relentlessly you know over and over again you know necessarily got to the Maharaj and Pantino brought it up as well is that perpetual netting net equals freedom perpetually creating a juxtaposition over and over again I am not finity I am not finity I'm awareness I'm not finity I'm not finity I'm not even awareness I'm the creator yeah yeah yeah what does that look like for you like what we just described yeah yeah this perpetual yeah kind of like behavior wise because for me I would say I'd like to do more like longer meditations like that and I feel I can now because it just actually feels good and I'm able to drop in but it to me looks like throughout the day I'm constantly checking in like that that's right yeah yeah if I feel I'm like really outside in my circumstances like coming back to that awareness yeah and just abiding yeah and keep going I understand that yeah I mean I think in current or yeah like just briefly taking moments to breathe and check in with your breath throughout the day is really important and just when you're in either the car or walking like taking one foot in front of the other just really realizing your surroundings and your senses for me personally I do enjoy having meditation practice like in the morning and then at night before bed it just really allows me to witness and observe my my thoughts my emotions instead of being in the middle of them and I think it really takes me from like a reactive state to a responsive state to where I'm not just like feeling that I am my senses right I'm able to actually like step back when I'm either in a moment of just having like oh whether it's like someone cutting me off in traffic or someone like what then I'm interacting with feeling very misaligned with who I am knowing that that's all it's meant to be it's meant to be like a challenge for me and I think having my practice really just grounds me in knowing that I can respond versus react and makes me out of just like my mind but it is really important to do I also have moments where I'm just like inhale exhale like taking that deep breath and just grounding into the present moment is so important noticing like the crisp on the leaves are just like all of the beautiful sensational things that we often don't even recognize because we're so in here you know yeah yeah I love what Richard said like one of the facilitators here teachers he said like what's your mind your mind's like a prediction machine like it keeps wanting to get some kind of grasp on the future what's gonna happen tomorrow whatever the and you'll start to notice that when you're really up here and you're doing that that you're you're quite taken out of that state of just pure awareness and abiding yeah and it and it really is what do I need what do I need what's exactly what do I lack right now it's just a limiting yeah it's a lack fully it's a lack of leave and yeah I think one show does for another period of time yeah for a million or so or something years yeah you realize you don't really you don't need it though it's like pretty crazy you think that oh I have to plan out everything in my life or I need to think about yeah just worry about all these different things but when you start releasing that and you live very presently yeah and faith devotion surrender yeah God's love light that's already on the present and already flowering effortlessly towards the sun yeah and you just feel this perfection that's everything's already working out the all as well feeling yeah yeah the all as well as well yep and then you just rest in that and then everything just flows so let's also visualize this it's really exciting to do so those were great examples of your practices with abiding and surrendering yeah and the visualization that can sometimes help is you know rather than seeing first probably and foremost is everywhere you look and everywhere that you are recognized rather than there being separation between you and other people in you and the world see it as your own creation of absolute love and light and then see rather than seeing like the instead of seeing the form and the identity and all these layers of costume which are fantastic the costumes are fantastic but they're also very separative yeah and individuated which is which is also unique in its in its sense but what you can do instead is you can begin sort of seeing the awareness the pure bare empty awareness that is shared as it as the fundamental I am that is present and timeless here and then to sort of repeatedly do that over and over again to where even the form and identity sort of melt into just this like love light interacting with itself in its in its little evolutionary ascent that it's going through right now remember your vision that you didn't like snap everyone is light everyone is white lights walking around okay snap back they're back in form it's so good that it's just like a beautiful demonstration visualization to just really like drop it and recognize we are not these space suits but we are just you know they're quite deceiving like you said you know and they can get really distracting and cause for a lot of like diving in and knowing our soul and making that more pure and beautiful and dissolving into the absolute and that we are all one is so much more exciting going in and yeah it's not external and I think that's really important but a lot of us are so in that external world right like we feel like we are our senses which I mean like you said it was good for a brief time survival mode it helped us survive but now we're just evolving past that like separation and it's so exciting like I'm so excited about it feels just like a remembrance like a lot of what Benzino talks about it's just like it feels like I'm remembering things that I've known for centuries and whether I've only been in this body 28 years it's like I know that like I've had these connections with like these souls before and just like knowing this beautiful information and I feel like we've evolved as humans but we've also kind of like devolved in a way of our consciousness but it's like programmed it's the matrix it's meant for that and we're we're stepping out we're taking the gold pill well at least I said the gold pill I like that I like that instead of that was interesting the white pills those are good ones to play with because the red and blue have been bastardized by society yeah yeah but it's cool that their gold or white are like these ascensionary and gold's good I like that yeah it's good that's good one it's the pill ultimately of the true nature and the true nature requires above all inward period and that in itself is something that people again the escape room you go at contraction is our own conditioning and it is so attaching we attach ourselves so deeply to our psychology to all of those layers of identity and form which is why inward even becomes difficult in the first place because in order to recognize your true nature as you recognize your true nature as Rupert Spira says is that this little moth of the contracted to go except entity it flies into the white source light and dissolve so you dissolve your psychology dissolve your form you dissolve your identity and people are willing to let go of that you know yet at the same time what happens is as that dissolves what happens is what emerges is God's love light expressing itself as a pure firework into this creation that a level that the psychological egoic contraction could never have healthily expressed itself yeah yeah and I think I think there's a level of faith yeah because it is kind of yeah to your ego it's quite threatening oh it's killed it's just completely completely killed but one thing I think we said this before that it does feel like you're shedding those layers which you can be attached to them and you've identified with them for a while so it could be hard to detach but once you start recognizing those things that are not you and you start letting them shut off of you what you're left with is just just a clear sense of yourself like I was telling you like by the end of this week I just I feel more myself just clear yeah that's great way to put it absolutely yeah like the layers have shed so many cycles of death and rebirth like I've said that many times I feel like I've been through this week and just knowing myself better being more clear and knowing yeah that like we are so connected and seeing myself in everyone versus being so there you go and you're I really like the metaphor of the escape room so do you feel like Bantino and these teachers give us like would you say like cheat codes to that or would it be just like it's probably it's probably yeah those are good ways to put it but probably the most like the only way that's been talked about over thousands of years is just a pointing it's just pointing to the true nature which is that you're already what you seek yeah yeah you're just sort of looking around and you don't know what to really land on like Rumi says we go from room to room looking for the diamond that's already around our neck and then we find that diamond that's around our neck which is really truly recognizing the poignancy of awareness itself and then as we do that then we recognize that that is infinity intelligent infinity endlessly expressing and comprehending itself yeah I love that and I've always believed you know what you seek is seeking you too there you go it's always a guidance and then you can try to run from it you can try like many times I'm like no I don't want to like send it so but like once you just surrender and like it's so liberating right like instead of trying to fight and swim as Abraham Hicks says like I'm swimming upstream I'm fighting the reality no just like surrender and flow and just know that you are going to be perfectly placed and perfect like you're going through all of this every experience for one for a reason and it's going to lead you back home every time but we fight we try to swim upstream we just try to resist and control and all of that is just ego and knowing that you can really surrender and like allow your higher self you're the one absolute whatever you want to call it to lead your way yeah I think we all have that knowing that like that intuition lives within us but a lot of people I know are humans they just resist it they're like I don't want to feel it I don't want to think about it so I'm going to like numb it out drink it away smoke it away whatever and like I think these things can be used intentionally but at the same time it's just if it's a numbing tool the intention has to be there and it's become it's just become very clear to me that floating downstream trusting and surrendering to everything working out with radiant ease knowing that we are the power that gives us that this is that or is it yeah yeah this is that yeah okay thank you so for those that are interested in that that's a really important point from our entire retreat is that the absolute is both what is beyond even awareness what creates even awareness and observes even awareness observing its creations yet the absolute is also this so this timeless presence is that the highest the absolute source intelligent infinity this is that yeah that's really important that we brought that up yeah I wanted to go back to what you were saying about like lack of beliefs basically one thing that was helpful that Bantino talked about was looking at why you believe what you believe and it's always because there's some benefit to you proceed there's some benefit to it like oh if I stress out about what's going to happen next week I think that I'm going to be able to solve it better or there's some reason that you're still believing what you believe so it's a really cool self inquiry just to look at that yeah absolutely and it is a self right and like it really just makes us think that we are in control and like oh I'm going to fix this and do this and no like ultimately there's like some strings up here pulling us and making us like go room into go and like what is for us can not miss us and just knowing that it's like a relaxed your shoulders like you know away from the roof of the mouth just a very feeling just knowing that what is for you can't miss you but I think we get so caught up in like the control aspect thinking that we really have control right like could any of you like imagine that your life would lead you right here right and it's what did you say last night was so good it's like we planned this thousands of years ago in like a movie it was so good yeah we 14 billion years ago we wrote the script we're watching the movie right now and we're remembering what we wrote I'm speaking in door that so much yeah it's like a soul resonance and yeah you're saying why do we do what we do why do we think what we think and like taking a step back and thinking okay is that really serving me anymore likely no if it's these like habits maybe people places and things that fit our comfort zone for so long but like if they don't feel right anymore or if they like restrict change and I think that's important to recognize you know and yeah changes are only constant we're going to continuously change and if you have people around you places around you that restrict you from changing then that's already kind of a yeah and you feel it like with emotional guidance system as you start turning into that more and then it gets more and more subtle and you'll feel that when you are holding back or you're out of alignment basically with what those people places things thoughts etc states yeah yeah so we created a general creative exploration designing the reality and then as it unfolds you have these analogies like we've been listening of the escape room the stake in the rubber band the emotional guidance system alignment to the highest God's love light and so there is the will there is the choice all the time to recognize when am I aligned versus when am I venturing off into ego separate entity seeking peace and happiness from my when are these happening and when are they directing me back to the stake yeah that's it yeah you can keep focusing on that that's yeah and you have to recognize when those things don't feel good and I think that's all perfectly placed in our reality right it's not like to say that you are making a wrong decision by staying in these places people with people that you know don't really resonate anymore because the contrast always serves its purpose right like you can't appreciate a delicious cup of coffee if you've never had a shitty cup of coffee you can't appreciate a really resonant vibrational relationship if you've never had a relationship that feels so constricting and just painful ultimately that you can't be who you are you can't appreciate unconditional love you never felt conditional love so it all serves it all serves its purpose the contrast is perfection it is perfect we will end up where we are meant to always and it's never about the destination there you're going to have another journey to go it's just about the journey and realizing that it's all like divinely timed and planned Dan Eldin said that the journey is the destination and that over thousands of years different communities across the planet have been making symbols that reflect the contrast very commonly recognized as the Yin and Yang and that those two poles in flux ascension are ultimately in a monist taijitsu so ultimately you have one and the two in flux upward and so we create the dark to serve our ascension and we're a whole hairy it's just we've done some collective shadow work this week we're on matches it actually looks like a really good shot that moment we had a moment last night where we were just all laying beneath the stars and it was just a beautiful completion moment through this whole week and realizing that the right people feel different to your nervous system and it's just all like divinely planned realizing that everything is working at best case scenario of every moment being open to the miracles of life guiding you to exactly where you're meant to be and it feels so good it just feels better it feels lighter you're really saying that because it's like when you rest in that perfection there's nothing that you need because you already realized that what did you say it's a natural state I was saying that I feel so just naturally high and it's unbelievable I've never experienced that it's just a vibrational level that I've just never felt that I've been at and you said it's so simple why do we make it so hard that's our natural state whoa yeah it's like crazy that we think that we have to suffer our whole lives and that's like the place that we have to live in oh life is just so hard and there's all this lack and I have to stay there forever because I'm a human and that's it and it's just amazing the awareness is everything realizing that you're not you're not like the less you have the choice to feel differently about every situation what is the quote like looking at it as what is this doing doing for me versus why is this happening to me is this teaching me versus why is this happening to me that alone is a shit right there I love that and then when you get to the highest levels you recognize that I created this teaching for myself it's such a trip it's such a trip it's perfect and that's why I also to play on what you were saying a moment ago is that SubGuru has been really influential in communicating the statement of I never do drugs but I'm always high right and so what does that mean why do the mystics talk about as they mysticism means union with God with the absolute what how optimize said self slash God slash infinity realization and also how to and why does that then create this feeling of timeless perfection that radiates like the sun with peace and joy and just butterfly effects out right so that's why five years ago looking at these yogis mystics just like they do to feel like this all the time and then just relentlessly relentlessly relentlessly putting it in that north's opposition of highest desire surrendering all other things nothing else besides know thyself know thyself I want to know my metaphysical truth or I'll die go go go go go go go go go and boom you pierce the veil the veil is veil and boom you recognize yourself as the creator of the tour feels so good and there's a quote I don't want to get too tangent but on spirituality is like the ocean and religion is like a fishbowl within that ocean right and I really love that because it's all pointing to the same thing right we get so in these dogmatic restrictions and like why do you even think that is it just for control is that what you think it is it was a fundamental step right absolutely so Shri Arvindo in the mother mirror also talk about how religion in a sense prepares the divine ascent it prepares the individuated for the true spirituality which and so that's why we had these thousands of years but also there was a lot of perversion and there still is yet there's truth in especially the mystic traditions which are embedded within all of these you know billions of people around the world are part of the religions but they don't know that there's mystic traditions in all of them that talk about union with God with the absolute an actual inward process of uniting yeah yeah absolutely so it's there the kingdom of heaven is within the kingdom of God is within that's Luke 1721 and it is it all points within and that's where I just think it gets lost in translation a lot when you're like feeling constricted but I think they all just point to the same thing and that's where I feel like spirituality mysticism has much more of a broad spectrum of coming home to that self within our self which is seeing you within me and everyone as one we're all on this journey and when you separate us with religion all of these other identifying separation I feel like made to control us and made to make us feel individualized and put that like oh no you're not like me all of this it's all for purpose to keep you apart when in reality we are all one when we come together and have that knowledge that like we're all walking each other home I love that quote it's one of my favorite we're all walking each other perfect perfect perfect perfection perfecting endlessly endlessly endlessly all walking each other home beautiful beautiful alright we love you thank you for tuning in everyone we're so grateful I love you all so much good the sandwich thank you bro divine time divine intervention let us right here yeah so good so good thanks everyone we'd love to hear from you in the comments below with your thoughts on that episode let us know also if the video brought you value give it a like if you haven't yet subscribed to the channel also share the video with people that you feel like it would make a positive influence on we have some links in the bio below probably your Instagram profiles we'll put some links in the bio below if you want to follow Hilary and Gina and we adore you thank you so much thank you thank you that was so sweet much love everyone dance it out mmm we're ending 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