 Call to order the February 25th meeting of the Board of Directors of Community Television. Would the Secretary please call the roll? Chair Mays-Hills. Here. Director Hall. Here. Director Rand. Here. Director Mannheim. Here. Director Florent. Here. Director O'Driscoll. Here. Director Owen. Director Gonzalez. Here. All right. Thank you very much. We have a quorum, I believe. If my math is correct, we have six directors here. So we can move on to... Do we have seven? Oh, seven, yes. Seven. Sorry. My math is not correct. But that's why we have a vice chair to... That's my face. For fact-checking. Okay, we're off to a good start. So the next order of business is all communications. And any person can address the board during all communications on any item that's not on today's agenda. Would anybody like to address the board? All right. Seeing none, we can move on to our consent agenda, which consists of three items, which is number four, to approve the revised minutes from our last November meeting. And number five is to approve the minutes of the meeting of January 28th, our last meeting. And lastly, to approve recommendation of the finance committee to accept the January 2019 financial reports before I entertain a motion. Would our finance committee chair like to comment on the financial reports? Well, actually, what I wanted to do is thank Tom Anheim for something. He doesn't know he's going to be thanked. But he and Keith over the last few years, Keith Grudger, our former chair, have kind of kept a series of spreadsheets that help us. We have the profit and loss, but something a little more basic. So you can see how we're doing in terms of the rent and fees we're collecting from the studio and from the satellite workshop. So Tom brings us every meeting, and I just wanted to thank him for it. Because to be honest, I go in the meeting, I'm trying to remember, is our goal, 10,500 or some figure. And I just know Tom will be bringing it. So I just wanted to thank him for this and pass this out. It's available for the public. If anybody's interested, it's just simply a different way of looking at the figures you have here. And what it does show is thanks to our good management and nice community and a good workspace, we are somewhat ahead in our revenues at this point. Now, this isn't a massive amount, so nobody should get excited. But it's better than where we were before. So anyhow, you can just look at this yourself. I don't want to take a lot of the meeting time, but I wanted to thank Tom for doing it. Because when he brought it up, he's been doing this for quite a while. I thought it was kind of nice and gives a little recognition for sitting at a meeting. We're mostly, we're looking at numbers and asking questions and trying to stay on top of things as best we can. So anyhow, thank you, Tom. And I'll make the motion to approve the consent agenda. All right, we have a motion by Dr. Hall and a second by Vice Chair Rand. Any for the comment? I just have a question on item four, the revised minutes. I was wondering, I thought that at the meeting, where we corrected them, we approved them as amended. And I'm just wondering if we need to bring them back like this. Just a question for the future. I suppose we don't have to do that. But it's nice to do it. Yes, it's especially, this one will be especially approved. Definitely approved. Okay, it was on the last agenda. Okay, thank you for that point of order. Count on you for... I'm still new at this in case you didn't know. But okay, so we have a motion and a second. Any for the comment? Seeing none, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed or abstention? Seeing none, that motion carries. Okay, so now we move on to the regular agenda. And item number seven is the oral report of the Executive Director. Okay, thanks very much. This is a report for mostly January, but in the beginning of February. So the co-working center is in profit. We had more than $12,000 this month in February. And so I do the report a little early, so we'll probably be more profitable than that. But I can only tell you guys how the date I wrote the report. So you can see on Tom's report what that means for us. So the, which is, it means we're 23% ahead of where we thought we'd be at this time. So that's a good thing. We have six new companies or individuals joined in February, which is kind of, that's good. Our record has been nine in a month, but that was unusual. So this is good. We usually have three to four. So we're up a little bit. We're not as crazy at that outlier nine, but up. And if you came in tonight, you found there was no parking and co-working spaces full of people. That was a, that's also a good sign. I love to see that we have now, there are oftentimes when there are 10 people in there at once, which is really good, not counting the offices, but just at the open seating area. So I'm bringing you a little data this month is different. I usually don't dig in, but I thought you might be interested to know. I put a little pie chart in your report that shows the top 10 ways we have income from the co-working center, because it's a lot of little things. The big ticket item is the private offices, which can be rented like by the day or by the month or by the hour. And we make about 50% of our income there on those offices. But we also have like 20 other little things where we make money and it all adds up, which I think is fun to know about. So I hope we do too. So just the mailboxes we have, we have a little like six foot by four foot bank of mailboxes and it makes about $1,000 a month. So just in that little spot, which is and because of that, people come in who you know, so they come in and they rent other things too. So when they have their mailbox here, they come in and sometimes we'll do an hour in an office from time to time and use the conference room as well. So that's it. That was a great thing. And you can see this is a, the pie chart is really, has a lot of really small things. So the red thing is the co-working cafe hours. And that's where you see all the people when you came in, sitting at open tables. For those of us who printed this out in black and white, could you tell us which one? The next, the second, I've got it here, thanks. This looks a little bit like playing trivial pursuits. So it's the, the blue, the large one is blue. It's from six to eight o'clock, I understand. Yes, it is. Yes, good. Okay, yes, we can use the clock. So, so the, yeah, from about six to eight is, is the co-working cafe space. And then, you know, from eight to just a little further to a little 9.9. 9.48. Yeah, I would say almost 10 is virtual offices. So, virtual offices are when people just use, they use our address and a mailbox, and they get a phone number, and sometimes they have a file coming. So, we make quite a bit from that, from people who usually aren't here. So, it's a really, it's so, and there's, you can read it when you get home, there's a whole bunch of little things. But I just thought it would be interesting for you to see that, that the second half of the money is broken up into a ton of tiny things. Some of that's equipment rental, some of it's studio rental. It's all sorts of little things, and it all adds up. So, underpaid services this month, the government meetings, we did 17 in February. So, just for context, when we do, during budget times, we'll do 24. So, and we usually do 70 to 18 in a normal month. So, this is pretty normal for us. We did pick up some new accounts, as we mentioned last time, but they're, it's keeping us at our average of 17 to 18. So, when budgeting comes now, since we have these new things, it might be more than, more than 24. Under the documentation service, that's a service that, for Director Gonzales, that's a thing that we do when we go out and document someone's lecture or something special. We don't shoot things, like we don't produce pieces and that sort of thing. We don't compete with local producers, but what we will do is sort of an AV thing that we record. So, if someone's doing a lecture series that they want to have recorded, we'll do that. And we also do the wrestling championships. I see that. Because we've been doing them forever. So, this month we did the wrestling championships and we also did, we have a production, so a lecture symposium scheduled for March. And under government, under programming, we are still doing the programming for CMAP for a while longer. It's a bigger project than we thought. And we have a professional studio production in the works. I'm working with the producer. They want to do a series of six programs and in our studio. So, that will be really good for us. And they want to push the envelope a little on technology, so we'll see if we can learn to do some new things. And it'll be fun. And it's a good, it's a nice project. It's a good, a nice thing. We'll like to be involved with it, but I can't say it out loud until we actually have it, but it's a good thing. Victor has hired two new, my report says one new technician, but now we've hired two. We needed to, we had to leave. So, Chris Ivins has been with us for years has moved to Boston and for Philadelphia. He went to the East Coast. Far lose, it's too far away. It's far, far away. It's cold right now. He's cold. He went to the snow and Jen also moved on. So we have two new people now and they have great names, Kingston and Hudson. So their last names, not as memorable, but we have those two, they're being trained now and they both have a lot of experience and so we're really excited to bring them on board. And we think they can help us with some other projects like this thing coming up in the studio. So we're happy. Victor did a great job picking out new guys. Under equipment and facilities, we are still working hard to get fiber in the building and we have a couple of television producers who have studios here or who have offices here and they need to upload big files. So we can't get it fast enough. We're waiting for a permit that we'll get supposedly on March 5th. And then I don't know. That'll be the next step. And then there's three blanks at the end of the column. We need to do this and this and this and this and we're here and there's three things after here and we're just waiting at the permit part. City permit? County permit? Well, first I thought I saw an email saying it was a permit they had to get from AT&T. But I think that must have been wrong because I don't know how they would be issuing permits. Could be to get in their pipe or something. It might be that, yeah, the big pipe might be theirs. I don't know. But now they say March 5th and so they keep us updated. They send me stuff every two weeks. It's always the same. Not this week. But they keep saying yeah, pretty much they send me a thing that says not now. But we're working really hard to do that and we will. I mean, that's going to happen. It's inevitable. It's just done a lot of time. The one button studio is almost done. We had the acoustic tiles installed but now we feel we need more. There's a little, still a little bit of an echo in there. It's a real hard room. So we'll take care of that hopefully this week or at least next week. The green screen's in. It looks great. It looks wonderful. Keith Gudger was our former chair, did an excellent job of installing it. It's smooth and he steamed it so it's not wrinkled. It looks great. And we've installed the hardware. When I say we, I mean Keith, installed the hardware to hold the backdrops and the backdrops that came were eight feet long. So we had to return them and they're sending us six foot ones. And as soon as they come, we can plug them right in and we'll be good to go. We'll get a little more acoustic tile on the wall and we'll be ready to go. So it's real exciting when you go in, everything works on its own. It's fabulous. Just really, we'll be able to press one button. And really, we're calling it, we're not calling it the one button studio. One button studio came from MIT, I think, developed something like this for their professors so they could record their presentations. And we built, we adapted, and when I say we, I mean Keith, adapted this, this pull is schematic to work for us. So some equipment had to be updated and some had to be changed out. But, and now we are calling it RSVP, really simple video production because you will be able to go in, press one button and record whatever kind of message you would like to get out. A lecture or a promo or an explainer, any of those things could be done in there. And we are moving on to communications. Ian, who is our community coordinator for the co-working space has been doing first Fridays and he did one this month with the Mosaic people of Santa Cruz. They have a group. So we got a whole bunch of different artists came and we had a full house. It was really fun and Ian operated in the studio, the vibe. So people could come in and put on the virtual reality goggles and be underwater with the whale and we should have shot them. Next time we'll be prepared because in the virtual reality situation you can reach out to things and they move and that's the really fun part. And so people were spending, were poking sea anemones. And it was really fun and people really got a taste of being underwater and being able to look behind and above and below and see things all around them. And we've got other things next month. I think we might be doing a thing called tilt brush, which is art. You get, you have like all different brushes on your, you have these handles. So that's how you can reach out touch things in the virtual world and you can change pens and paint brushes and you can choose things over here like colors or shapes and you can make your own reality. You can paint it around you. So it's really fun. So you can paint on many levels. You can paint here and then you can reach further out and paint there. And so things are behind and in front of each other. So we think artists will like that. And we're working with Susanna Arias, who's going to help us get more visual, like videography and photographers in. So some video artists, I don't know, you guys are familiar with video art. But videographers make really interesting art with video. And my favorite one was in the San Jose Museum and it was, it went into this dark room and it was all rear view mirrors from cars. And there was video in the rear view mirrors. So you were seeing what was going on behind. It was a great exhibit. So we're hoping to reach out to more, to a lot of the noted photographers and video artists because we think they would like to know what we have to. So we can bring them in and they can get more familiar with what we have to offer as well as exhibit their own things. So they're right now, the Mosaic thing is still up and don't miss the giant banana slug in the lobby. It's as big as this table. It's a really fun Mosaic piece. So anyway, we have our next one actually, we're hoping to get a photographer in April. In March, we're doing a really fabulous painter who does animals and they're all very charming and funny and they're not like hunting dogs. You know that big Transformer cover that's got the looks like an Irish wool found on it. He's like happy and his fur is going all over. It's like wow. So the last thing I want to tell you about is I have to open something else to do it. I had a conversation with our ad agency today and so I have some information on our Google ads and how they're going. So I thought you might be interested to know this is really exciting to me that in January we had 372.3 thousand impressions. So 372? Yeah. So that's like almost three quarters of a million impressions in January alone. On our ads? What is the what's the definition of an impression? Someone sees it. So does that mean somebody clicked? They just saw. Somebody is on the page where the ad is. Where it is. So it appeared to them they may or may not look it because they were probably searching for something else. So we appear in the search results. So if someone searches for lenses we pop up with cameras. So people see us. We have display ads. So we have pictures and everything. So people are seeing us and you might not think that's valuable. But in the beginning of Facebook they had a thing where you could do the same thing. You could have an ad and you only had to pay if people clicked on it. So there was this marketing guy who's going to Virginia's. He wanted people to know who he was. He just wanted to brand himself. So he put a picture of himself and his name. And so something like Bob Jones is a big goofball. Well he made like millions of impressions and never paid anything because no one would click on an ad like that. But people did know him. They got to know his name. They saw his name in his face over and over again. So I know we're not going to do that. So that was for one month? That was for one month. And that's in a county of 280,000. Yeah. But it's not limited to the county. In the county I just realized today as they opened up the background and I looked at it I was like hey you're missing half of the half of the audience. They were only targeting the city of Santa Cruz. So now they're targeting the county. Wow. Yeah. So that was so this is only when the people in the city of Santa Cruz have googled something that we have something to offer related to. So I thought that was good. Pretty good. And we did we now this number does not sound impressive. We got 391 clicks on our ads which was is good. They think it's not, you know, not amazing but you know what we have is a little bit different than we don't have enough parking spaces for So 1% of the impressions are actual clicks. Are converting to clicks. Yeah. So when you think of like direct mail advertising 2% is a good return. So we're doing pretty good because this is even more random than that. Yeah. At least than that they know who you are. We didn't have to kill any trees to do this. Yeah. So no trees were killed in the making of these clicks. So and then we on devices so there were two really interesting things. Mostly people get us on the phone. Hardly anybody uses a computer. One person used a television. So I don't know who that could be but it's interesting that there are people you can do you can use a television as your computer but not many do it. Apparently one person in Santa Cruz does. They get us what I didn't understand what you meant. They go to our website. Yeah. It's a smart TV. They go to our website mostly by phones. They're they're seeing our ads on phone. Yeah. It was the what you're what they're doing. So they're they're getting to our website via smart TV. And they're seeing our ads on their on phones not on computers. It's mostly mobile. However, half of our audience is over 50 which is really interesting. But what they told me was probably they said the rest of the audience is really young because this is only the 50 the over 55 set fills out forms and gives you all their information. Young people don't. So they're like these are the people who are getting responsible and they're going to fill out a form. The other people they just want the information in their own. So half of our audience is very young. Half of our audience is over 50 which is kind of interesting. It is kind of Santa Cruz. Yeah. And mostly it's and most of the clips have come from women. Follow. Yeah. Mostly women and then men. So because there's no one else after that. In my list the women have been voting down to a lot of different categories. But so it's mostly women mostly over 50 but but it was just Santa Cruz city. So now we're going to broaden that out and we're going to change our ads a little bit so that we're targeting a little more young and a little less older so we can kind of eating that out. That's it. That's my report. Great. Any questions from board members? No, it's exciting. Yeah, that's very exciting. Yeah. The data nerd in me is very gratified right now. Or with this tree. That's just one month. Yeah, we can do now I know how to do this. I can get one. And we've been doing how long have we been running the ads? It's been three months or something. A little longer than now. I would say about six months. Oh, okay. Yeah, we had we've had a full quarter but it's been so long since the fourth quarter that I just thought and we don't want to look at that. Let's look at January. Let's look at the recent past. So we look at January. Very exciting. Well, thank you very much. You're welcome. All right. Well, I'm excited by that. So we can move on to item number eight, which is a report from the ad hoc strategic planning committee. I know you met after our finance committee meeting earlier in the week. Is there anything that you'd care to report? We did. Just briefly, I'm not going to go through all the details. There's a lot of stuff that's still in the works. But we did have a third meeting. It's been a really interesting discussion and a couple of things I just wanted to note out of that. One is we don't have the results shed as a committee, but we have reached out to the volunteers to get their input into what we're doing as well. So we're looking forward to getting that information back. We have done just a minor tweak to the mission statement and obviously we will bring that to the board for approval along with a complete plan. We also created a vision statement which I thought was worth sharing with the group which is that we're empowering our community to thrive in a digital world which is at the very highest level what it is we're trying to do as an organization. So I thought I'd share that. We've, I think the work we're doing is creating sort of a roadmap to a strategic plan and we've had some really thoughtful trying to figure out what adjective adverb use but a very sort of engaged discussions I would say. Animated. But animated that's the word very animated discussions and I think it's going to be a very worthwhile effort. So more to come. Fantastic. Well, we look forward to hearing how that unfolds and thank you that the vision statement is very concise and yet profound phrase. So thank you. You bet. All right. So we will move on to item number nine which is summaries from board retreat subcommittees. We heard a little bit from our executive director about the the one, the RSVP which is great news and I believe Director O'Driscoll has further to report from the library subcommittee after a wonderful report last meeting. Well, I'm very excited because somehow I managed to find a day in time when our three directors on the library subcommittee the executive director of CTV and the three important members of the library can all meet at the same time in the same place and I see that as an accomplishment. So we plan to meet together on March 11th and at that time the board members can learn more about what the library has and what it might need and the library can learn more about what CTV has and we're going to meet before then to do our homework and be ready to do a solid presentation. So they are looking forward to it. I am looking forward to it. So and we all agreed on the same day. That is definitely an accomplishment. Yes. As somebody who's scheduling meetings now I'm appreciating just how challenging that can be. That's right. Great. Take it as a win. Thank you, Janice. I appreciate that. Look forward to hearing how that meeting goes. All right. So we can move on now to the next page. Item number 10 which is the old report from the Volunteer Advisory Committee and the committee chair is sitting to my right and is our vice chair. Right. And as Tom mentioned the last meeting we had with the strategic planning committee we gave a couple of ideas to talk with the volunteers on Saturday. We met at Saturday and it was a very lively discussion. There was a couple of excellent things that came out of it. Some of it had to do with you know some practical things but we actually had a very interesting discussion about what would we think is a quality program because I know that was one thing that the committee itself thought was you know not clear what do we mean by that and I thought that the group gave some very excellent suggestions. So we're looking forward not this Friday but the Friday after that to give a report to the rest of the committee Nathan, Keith, me and Becca and Judy Owen. So we're looking forward to that. The other thing I want to report is that after we did a very interesting and nice and large meeting for non-profits in orientation in last month we had a couple of people that came then to do the field camera class which you know you all know Becca's husband does and he does such a fascinating you know he has such a fascinating approach to it people would just enthrall that everybody stayed till the end and so one of these people from the orientation from the non-profit orientation came and just soaked them all in and she sent me an email thank you and when can I get started to do things you know with it so we'll have to work on that and that's really the goal of the field camera class is that we train people to use our cameras and then that we form a group of people that will help other people in the community especially non-profits to do their own productions and their own shooting that's really the goal but you know there's very few of us and hopefully you know people like her pulling her in will get us there and so that's that's exciting news so that's basically what I report great thank you very much Matilda we have a question one thing when you were saying what's a quality program as one of the viewers I can tell you since we're in the new studios we have all the new cameras and everybody's trained the actual visual quality is immensely better and so that's just from a viewer of different things that I've seen and it's sporadic but it is interesting to see how much it's changed and I saw an interview Becca had last year with John Leopold one of our supervisors and I was watching it and my wife and I have divergent watching patterns and she heard it downstairs and thought I was watching KQED it was kind of surprising oh you're what what are you watching on it because that might be interesting to her and so I told her it was community TV so I think there's been a change and that just is a viewer yeah one of the people who came on Friday on Saturday she said you know she regularly watches and she too said that she thought that the program had improved just all of the what the work's been done the last two years it's amazing you know and Nick is here and Rich Richardiselle is here and they also talked about what they do to you know and Nick is a person who does plays and he has a tremendous amount of preparation and so the whole group felt that preparation that goes into the program you really see what comes out of it what a concept but you know the thing also is you know what kind of purpose so we talked about what kind of preparation do people do you know like Richard he always makes sure that his bands are very well informed where is it going to be what is going to happen what can they ask how does he present it and you know and Nick does practice with his with his actors beforehand and then you know I once directed one of his programs and you know he's very clear you know this is the script this is what we're going to say now and he sits next to me he said okay I want this camera and with that camera so it's really fascinating to see that people are really thinking about it and I think it had a nice impression on Saturday on people and so I'll give more to the group and looking forward to hearing that yeah no it was I thought that part of the the meeting was enlightening for a lot of people so great thank you any further questions or comments okay well let's move on to item 11 which is the oral report of the board chair which is me and I did want to last meeting when you mentioned the vac and the the strategic planning committee is seeking input from the from the the volunteers I was really filled to hear that I didn't say anything but I did want to acknowledge that as somebody who spent 20 years plus as a volunteer here before I even attended a board meeting and was concerned when we by necessity had to reorganize you know the board structure to not have elected you know volunteers you know I was concerned that the volunteers would not have as much input but through the vac and through the input to the strategic strategic planning committee I'm glad to know that the concerns and the feedback of the volunteers right but there's always more that can be done and that came out also there's more that we can do and it's just a matter of who's going to do what because we're all volunteers but anyways sure you're doing it we have a wonderful vac chair here to coordinate all of that so what do I have to report we attended Joe and I the memorial for Peter McGatigan over at the the MA it was a wonderful event well attended by historians city council members current one at least and beautiful event and Joe represented the board and and he represented the volunteers because he did the work of recording it as myself right and I have to apologize to you for jumping and I had to tell that story about Chris Crow and I realized that probably wasn't very professional of me you know as somebody who's supposed to be documenting the event that's okay it was a very relaxed and I think it would it really represented everybody there very well Peter's memory yes so yeah it was it was touching to me as somebody who who was a great admirer and oh it was a debt to Peter McGatigan and you know in the course of the event I was speaking with the event coordinator there and I made sure to mention hey you know we you know you have a lot of wonderful events here we have this lease equipment lease opportunity and if you'd like to discuss that what we can do for you and she said she'd be open to discussing that so if we want to set something up I think she'd be open to hearing from us and and setting up something with the rest of the staff there because I think that was one of our goals out of our retreat was to work more closely with the MAH since it's such a a vibrant flourishing organization so hopefully we can further that and also director manheim has brought to our attention a exciting perspective new board member for one of the three open well we have two open at large seats on the board and in the interest of building some suspense so that maybe people tune in next month I'm not going to name him he's here observing the meeting I was thinking about asking him to sing with a mask on so we can hear his vocal chops but anyways he's going to if he's still interested after seeing our board meeting and attending I know he's met with Matilda and Becca and nope not anyways we'll we'll meet him or you can say his name is well-known oh yes okay so tune in next next meeting if you're still interested and you know we will have another board member and I will also take this opportunity to mention that yeah we do have a south county so if you know anybody in Watsonville we would love an attorney that's always a plus and another at large so if any of the board members have anybody in mind that they think would bring something to the board we have those open spots and I will also mention that we have and on March 15th was it oh yes can I say something yes please as you would like to please please we will be so we have this ctv has an equipment grant and we grant equipment to local organizations and schools who have video programs and need equipment or would like new or more or different equipment and the application is on our website and we will be doing a workshop on how to successfully apply March 15th March 15th right never stop on March 15th and that information is on our website as well and it's at 5 p.m. is it 4 or 5 I think keep talking I know okay we're gonna talk about that hold on it's on the website um so any any teachers 4 p.m. it's on the 14th 4 p.m. 4 p.m. on the 15th so you haven't heard too many numbers yet it's um that's correct it's in March on the 15th at 4 p.m. here at ctv and we're at 325 Stokell Avenue so any if you have if you work for or run a non-profit organization or you're a teacher or involved in the school system and you'd like to have video equipment to train students with we would like to have make that happen for you so please look on our website for the application and attend the workshop thank you very much Becca that's better than I could have put it I know your name was mentioned as somebody who might be able to get the word out director Gonzalez definitely to folks in education I spoke with somebody who's got children at AFE he says he thinks he's too busy now he likes the idea but um you know I'd love to see I don't know if the charter schools or you know be nice to get some equipment out there for the youth of Santa Cruz County too do something better than they can do on their their iPhones yeah well we just we want to educate children and we just want places that have the means to educate if they just need the education part we'll do the equipment all right did we ever get any responses from Santa Cruz High or Harbor High I know Aptos uh no no it's Aptos Aptos they're on the same side of the street but um yeah we have not heard from Harbor Soquel Santa Cruz Santa Cruz City Schools yeah we would love to help them as well so um I think that does it for me um if anybody has any questions you see none okay we can move on to item number 12 which is board member staff requests for items to appear on the next meeting agenda does anybody have anything special they'd like to put on the agenda for next time okay seeing none we can move on to announcements I'd like to take this opportunity to thank our all volunteer crew which consists of Linda Janakis Karen Scott Keith Gudger Richard Ducell Nick Kirkendall and Sherry Ross thank you very much for um allowing this meeting to be recorded and making our secretary's job easier if uh hopefully you hit record right no Keith's in there we know we know I see the red light okay um so um with that taking care of we can move on to you know yes please can I uh can I adjourn the meeting I can make a motion make a motion okay we have a motion of item 14 to adjourn the meeting do we have a second we have a motion and a second all in favor please say aye aye any opposed extensions okay we are adjourned thank you very much