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We are headed to Kentucky for the festivities and the celebrations, little mint julep action. What is it? Woodford Reserve sugar and water? Sugar and what? Club soda? Oh, Marissa, do your homework. We might literally have Bobby Flay whipping up some mint juleps for our little show. Speaking of little, I know so very little. My education, my cram sesh, kicks into high gear today. What to wear, what to eat, how to party, where to sit. It is all happening. It's sure we'll learn about the ponies too. The fillies, the thoroughbreds. Is that right? Ken Rudolph gives me all the details and he has some long shots and dark horses for your Derby Fandle sportsbook pleasure. That's right, our sportsbook Fandle the number one leader is where you can go and place bets. Super easy, have some fun, have a nice little Saturday with us. Now, I'll be click hocking around in five and chills. It's not even gonna be sunny that day. I'm gonna be going over there. You think I'm waiting in line to place a bet there? No, I'm headed right to the sportsbook on the app and getting it done. Now in the NFL world, we got a little break of news this morning. What does it mean? The Packers decide to give Jordan Love the old extension instead of exercising his fifth year option. So now we've got 22.5 million with 13.5 million guaranteed. What does it mean? This is a little maneuver to a loss in flexibility. That's it. Green Bay is covering their basin since nobody knows what love will look like as a starting quarterback just yet. They think they know, they're confident in what they have but they don't have to commit to the 20.5 million that's ready fully guaranteed under the fifth year option while still keeping Jordan Love under contract next year. So Love gets a little comfort, a security blanket, some insurance and some guaranteed money for 2024. And if he crushes it, and this is certainly incentivizes him giving it, him giving it, it's all, and his all, I'm sure a longer term extension does find a way to get worked out as the season ends anyway. So I would say this is all good things. It doesn't really, I was trying to find the underlying meaning of it all. What do they mean? What does it mean that they like him or not? But it's sort of a creative solution by the Packers to give everyone some sense of flexibility and security going forward. Now the 2023 NFL draft is over as we know the grades. They've been handed out. Everybody's dishing out love and who did the best and who sneaky did the best and all of that. But I think there are still a few things that happen in Kansas City this weekend that we are sort of under reacting to. Let's hit it with the under reactions. And I want to start with a wild triangle of intra-division trading that's going on right now with the NFC North. Like everybody's getting along and all things are gravy. I talked about this a little bit before, but it's really starting to hit a different level. It's sort of, it's very incestual over there in the NFC North. Can we not hear me? Is that what the problem is? What's going on? Oh, okay. Well, I did not know that. Let's talk about the intra-division trading going on in the NFC North. Past two seasons, the Packers, the Lions, the Vikings, they've continued to break all the unwritten rules and they're just wheeling and dealing with each other. The Lions are open like crazy. The Bears though have kept their distance a bit from the whole thing. While you might say who cares who you trade with, you need to do its best for your team. I just think we're under reacting to this a little bit because with as neck and neck as these NFC North teams are right now with Aaron Rodgers being gone and it's anybody's to sort of grab potentially. One of the players involved in these trades could end up being the deciding factor when all of a sudden done in the entire division. So let's take a look guys, at the complete pandemonium that has gone on and starting with the Vikings. We all remember this. They acquired eight players in the fallout from various NFC North trades, four as a result of deals with the Lions, four from the Packers. They're loving the NFC North, most notably Tita and TJ Hockinson at the deadline last year, but they also landed starting safety Lewis. So that's good and that all happens there, four from four from each squad. And the Lions added six players. Let's take a look at them. James Williams, who they landed at 12th overall last year. We have that, and that was a trade with Minnesota. Brian Branch, what did they do to get him? Well, they moved up in the second round with Green Bay to snag this year. This is very lannister-y. I'm just gonna put it in those terms. It's very cross-pollinating, I don't know. And their potentials starting quarterback in the future, Hendon Hooker, who they grabbed up for trading Denver, one of the picks that they got from the Vikings in the TJ Hockinson deal. Ipso facto connect the dots. Let's move on to the Packers here and just show you a little bit of what they did. They grabbed Christian Watson in the trade with the Vikings. They used the pick Detroit sent Minnesota as part of the James and Williams deal. So Lions and Vikings, I don't wanna hear you crying about watching Watson tear apart your secondaries. You were both complicit in this. You made this happen and then the Packers drafted two more receivers this year as a result of that Bryan Branch trades. The majority of Jordan Love's targets this year are going to be guys from the other NFC North teams that they were handed to them, like the guys that were handed to them via proxy, via that, like what? Via this weird trade ancestral osmosis, I'm loving this. And that's what's gonna make it a fun storyline to sort of track throughout the year. Imagine Packers fans. If Jordan Love throws a pick to Bryan Branch to seal the Lions division, when it was close down to the wire last year, or Lions fans, if Hawkinson, or one of those Packers wide receiver scores a game-winning touchdown on them, or the rest of the division as a whole, if Hendon Hooker goes on to become a star for the Lions a few years from now, there's going to be so much this. You do that and I shouldn't have traded. Why do we do that as a division? There's so much finger point that's going to go down and we are absolutely living for it. This season will be a fascinating case study and who got the best in the world of each other and of these trades. So I think we're underreacting to that. Maybe it's normalized and maybe it's cool and maybe that's the gift that Game of Thrones and the Lannister family gave us in this whole thing. That's just my thoughts. Now the next thing that I do think we're underreacting to this week is what has happened to the fullback position. I was scrolling, by the way, Twitter, does it no longer matter who I follow anymore? Like, well on Twitter, like I go on the, I got the check mark thing go, but even before that, on the page where I'd scroll for tweets from people that I follow, it's just random stuff I could ever ask for, like when animals attack and there's a bunch of political stuff and I'm like, I'm here for sports. That's your algorithm. Is that it really? That'd be a good segment to hook up my algorithm but it's nobody I follow and I'm like, who's this random girl? And then I don't know who she is and there's no reason for me to have her on my, so I on other people's pages too, then? Okay, that's a good trade off. Okay, I'm fine with that. So here's what I noticed. Somebody I do follow very much is our friend Brian Baldinger, who once came on our show and then we were told he can never come on our show again but there were no natural fullbacks taken in this entire drag, great point, right? That got a quote, tweet, and he's so sad out of one Kyle, use check. And it is significant because we've seen so many fullbacks make big impact on the league. How can one not be drafted? And I know more teams are spreading things out but guys like use check and Patrick Ricard, Pancake Pack, come on, they've shown that there's still very much a place for the fullback in this league, endangered but not extinct, right? And while this is a depressing time for fans of a school, old school football and loving that and the fullback in general, there is a bit of a glimmer of hope here because if you noticed before I said that there were no natural fullbacks taken in this draft but there was one guy, one Jew drafted as a fullback despite playing mostly on the defensive side of the ball in college, this club handed Maniac rocking number zero is named Derek Parrish out of Houston. He was taken in the seventh round by the Jags with the expectation of moving to fullback. So he's gonna have a chance guys to carry the world on the torch of the position going forward and based on what we have learned about him in these past 24 hours, I gotta say, I think he's up for the task people. He's six-one, he's two into 41 pounds, he's a ball of muscle, he trains with boulders, he trains with boulders, so it's a good thing, a little feather in the cap for these guys. Who, come on, what is this? Are you a Polish guy named Mario from like the Eastern part of Poland where I'm from, my dad always watches those worlds about the strongest band competitions just for the red and white flag. Okay, he runs at four, five, 40, he benches 425, he has a 21-inch neck, which equals to Kio Spikes, by the way, and he once won a competitive eating event by demolishing a seven-pound steak. Now we saw what I couldn't do with donuts, can you only imagine? When he was asked about the strategies, everybody, he said, quote, I was literally taking two-ounce cuts and swallowing it like a pill. He added, I showed up hungry, that was his answer. That hunger translates onto the football field, it really does. He is the goal of becoming one of the most versatile players in the league and even said that he models his game after Project Pat and use checks. So while the full-back position may have taken some hits over the past couple of years, I think Derek Parrish might be the guy to breathe some life back into it. So shout out to full-backs, we're not going full extinct mode on this. No natural full-backs in this draft though, according to Baldinger, who we'd love to welcome back to the show at some point. NFL media does putting that out there. Finally, I wanna take some time to talk about a story that might've gotten a bit drowned out in all the other news this weekend because this guy deserves his share of some spotlight and love. The Texans revealed that wide receiver John Mechie, who was diagnosed with leukemia last July, how incredible is this? He has been a full participant in off-season programs and he is working his way towards a potential return to the field. Mechie was Bryce Young's top target, one of them at Bama in 2021. He was drafted by the Texans in the second run last year even after he tore his ACL in the SEC championship game. So the news of the diagnosis of the leukemia, of the adversity, of this awful thing handed to him came in the midst of recovering from his ACL. But Mechie, he kept showing up. He kept coming to the facility while getting treatment. He had a really positive attitude. Everyone says that and never wavered just by everything that he was going through. And Coach D'Amico Ryan's had this to say about him just recently. Take a listen. When you talk about a guy like John Mechie, just meeting him in person, right? Hearing his story and then meeting him in person, it marries up, like outstanding young man off the field, great energy always around. Every time I seen him in a building, he used to smile on his face, no matter what adversity he's faced, right? He's attacking it with a smile, attacking it with the right attitude and it just solidifies the type of person that he is and the type of people and the type of players that we want to add to our team is guys with that type of attitude. It's so perfectly said. And he's the type of player and the type of person you cannot help but root for. I don't care if you're a division rival, I don't care if you were against him at BAM, whatever it is. I just wanted to make sure that we took some time this morning to celebrate this amazing news of overcoming adversity, of having the right mindset and doing so and we're in the John Mechie business here on Up and Atoms. We are fans, we are wishing him best of luck in his continued recovery, in his journey and I can tell you right now, I might be getting a little misty the first time we see him break out the crimson crane in the old NFL zone and from everything we have learned here on the show about John Mechie, I really don't have a doubt that that's going to happen. You heard what Ryan said to say there. We, of course, here for him and wishing him all of the best. There's a little light on that this morning. We're going to take a break. We have Ken Rudolph in studio to tell me about the Derby. What do I need to know? Who do I need to place the bet on? I'm a little nervous to walk up to that window. We've got all of that. Also, Rob Gronkowski on right after this commercial break. Here in TNBA Playoffs, like never before with Fandal America's number one sports but that's right for number one. Join Fandal today and get $150 in bonus bets when you place your first $5 bet. That's $150 in bonus bets. 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Hi, Hamilton, we're gonna take a short break here. I wanna take a break and we're gonna reset and come back with Rob Gronkowski after this but head over to Fandola Sportsbook. Have a little fun if you want. We've got a boosted parlay for tonight's action with Zaworias and the, ooh, the Gronk Spike. That's a start of it all. We'll get into Kelsey at Kelsey Jam and all of that with our next guest, he's a four-time Super Bowl champion, the dog dad of Ralphie and our beloved Fandola family member, starring in a new Kentucky Derby commercial. Rob Gronkowski, how are you? I'm good, you just made me laugh. The dog dad of Ralphie. That's what our producer wrote in there. You are the dog dad of said Ralphie. That just made my morning. Where are you? What are you up to? You're in LA I hear? Yeah, I'm in LA right now. I was just in Vegas with the Fox team for a little retreat. Now I'm here in Vegas. Camille's going on ridiculousness today. Whoa. Actually she's on a show, so here to support her and just chilling. What's here? Are you going to go to the set for ridiculousness? Yes, I've been on it once before, but Camille's been on it like 20 times already this year. She's been doing a great job. Her episode actually just came out a couple of them last week and she hit it right out of the park but she's filming more right now and I just love this show. Love what Rob Deirdic is doing as well. I love that. We got a little Rob Deirdic reference in before we even get into anything here. I missed you at the Met Gala. I can't believe you've never gone. How come? Yeah, I've never been to the Met Gala. I would say the reason is I'm not big time enough so I never got the invite. That means you're not big time enough, all right? No, yes you are. You're physically big time enough and big time, big time enough. What's that? Did you watch the draft this weekend, my friend? I watched a little bit of it. The first 10 picks of the draft I was flipping back and forth between the lightning game and the draft. Yeah. It's really cool what they do. Just make it so glamorous. It's just, it's an episode in itself, the NFL draft. It's a really cool, all the things that they do for the players. Yeah, and then we were there in Kansas City. Kansas City was incredible host space. They crushed it, it was awesome. And then the tight end position was really interesting. I'm gonna show you where some of these guys shook out since you saw a little bit of it. These are the tight ends taken in the draft. Now we of course know that there's a kid named Baby Gronk on this list. But I'm wondering, did he stick out to you? He ends up with the Raiders. What did you make of that? Yeah, so he actually does stick out to me because of the name Baby Gronk, which is Michael Mayer, Notre Dame. I remember about three years ago, actually I was hearing about him. Everyone was hitting me up like, yo, there's a guy in college right now at Notre Dame named Baby Gronk. He's playing just like you and he was only a freshman. He went in, I think he was a true freshman and he went in to Notre Dame and just made an impact like that. So I've actually heard about him three years ago and now here comes fast forward to three years later. He gets drafted to the Oakland, the Vegas Raiders under Josh McDaniels. So I think that's a great fit for him. Knowing that I was under Josh McDaniels for about 90% of my career when I was in New England. He was offensive coordinator there. So I think he's gonna be very successful. I think he's kind of a two-way tight end. If he can block in the scheme for Josh McDaniels and their offense, I think he's gonna do a good job. I'm especially in the play-action part of the game. Yeah, they started calling him Kentucky Gronk because at his high school, he was so dominant and he was putting up all of the crazy numbers. And then when he went to Notre Dame and he's the all-time leader in receptions by a tight end. And as he said, McDaniels has a beautiful history with tight ends shining and thriving. But those Darren Waller shoes, those are pretty big to fill, man. Yeah, that is some big shoes to fill. I believe that that trade, when I saw Darren Waller go, I was kind of very surprised because I just know how much Josh McDaniels loves to use tight ends in his system. So I can't believe he made that trade actually. But he actually went to my other coach, Brian Deba, with the New York Giants and he loves to use tight ends even more. So watch, I say this, watch Darren Waller have a year this year. He's gonna have a year. What does that mean? He always has a year, like he's gonna take over, like he'll be the best tight end. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be up there this year. Deba is gonna find a way to use him, utilize his skill set like no other. He's gonna be all over the field, but he's gonna have a year. I'm saying like a year where he has a year. Okay, but he's already had like a Pro Bowl year and all pro year. He's one of the best two tight ends. The last two years though, the last two years he's got a couple injuries and stuff. He wasn't on top of his game, but this year I believe he's gonna come back and he's gonna be a Pro Bowl caliber type player. But Pro Bowl caliber player, but not break your single season touchdown record of 18. No, no, that's not gonna get broken. No, no, no. That's not gonna get broken, all right. I'm just making sure. Now you bring up Michael Mayer and I like that you pay attention to him because he went in the second round. And you know, you're there in Kansas City, you know what this is like and all these players, it's all about hope and celebrating and then some of them slide out of the first round. It happens, it happened to you, right? You got taken 42nd overall to the Patriots and it ended up pretty well for you. You got to go in and win a bunch of Super Bowls and you were in the right spot and you developed and evolved as a player. I probably wouldn't rewrite that history. What's the advice you would give to like the Michael Mayers, even the Bryan Branches, the Levises, who sort of ended up going not where they thought they'd go but hopefully where they should be? Yes, I actually saw that. I noticed that Will Levis guy, he slipped out of the first round and went into the second round and all these other guys that were hoping to be first rounders went into the second round. Well, let me tell you this right now, you get the same exact opportunity to succeed in the NFL. If you're the first pick of the draft, all the way to an undrafted free agent, it doesn't matter where you get drafted. That's not your legacy one single bit. Your legacy starts when you get to the facility, when you get to the practice fields, when the games start, that's when it all kicks in and it doesn't matter one bit where you were drafted. So if you slipped, no matter what, if you went down, if you didn't get picked, well, guess what? You have an opportunity to shine, to show those teams that they all messed up. You have an opportunity to shine and prove to everyone that you belong in the first round or wherever you thought you should have been drafted, but truly the draft does not matter. It's just all about the opportunities and everyone has the same opportunities across the board once you get into the NFL, once you get into training camp. I mean, you're not gonna be an undrafted free agent and shine a training camp and they're gonna be like, oh, he was undrafted, we should cut him. No, they're gonna be friggin' just a static that you're an undrafted player doing well in training camp because they have you for three years on minimum pay. That just helps out the salary cap tremendously, like no other. You're a hero. Make the best of it no matter where you were drafted and it doesn't matter where you were drafted and here's a fun fact, Kay. I was actually at the draft and I got invited to the draft and I slipped out of the first round but I was the first player and it was the first time they ever taken like more than like the top five guys to the draft. There was a lot of us. So I was the first player to get drafted the next day in the second round ever in history. So that's a pretty cool fact. And then how did you handle that? Cause we saw like Brian Branch, he shows up and he stayed and most of those guys, like we'll have Levis, they all flew home and he wanted, like Brian Branch wanted his moment on stage still. Yeah. I mean, I had a possibility, I had a thought in my mind that it was definitely possible. I was gonna go in the second round. So that was in my mind, why I even got there. And I just thought it was really cool to be invited to the draft. So I don't know why these guys go there then they fly home. I agree. If they don't pick them the first round, well, then why did you even go to the draft? You know, like, you know. Yeah. So, but like I said, you're gonna get the same opportunities no matter why the second round, first round, I'm drafted and then on top of it, once I got drafted, like I was kind of disappointed, you know, I didn't get picked. But the bangles took a tight end, Tony first pick overall, and then no one else took a tight end the first round in my draft. But I was mad the first day, but let me tell you the second day, once my name was called, it was the best moment of my life. You know, my dream has come true that I was drafted into the NFL. I totally forgot. It was even a problem at all that I wasn't drafting the first round. It was just one of the best moments of my life. And it didn't matter one bit that I dropped. And then you guys have that family huddle. We've all seen footage. You get drafted to the Patriots. You go to New England now. Bill talks about like when he met you and you fell asleep on the floor and all that stuff. But do you remember once you were a Patriot walking into that building, what it felt like or even what Bill said to you? It's the first thing Bill said to you. I don't really recall like what the first thing he said to me was, you know, walking into the building. But I would say that just a generalization of everything that is just repeated over there is to get ready to work, you know? It's not like you're cracking jokes right away right when you walk in the building. It's get ready to work, you know? Get ready to work on the field and also off the field. You know, study film, go out there and be in well-conditioned, to be in great shape so you're out there and you're not gasping for air in between. So just get ready. That's the motto there, get ready. I mean, it's crazy because you get drafted. I'm just thinking about it now. Brady Wett had already three in the bag, right? So you find out you're going to meet, had you met Tom? Yes, I never met Tom before and I actually remember that moment meeting him for the very first time. I was actually on the training tape. I was getting my ankles taped. I was getting ready for practice and he just walks into the training room and he introduces himself to me and goes, hey, I'm Tom. And I was like, hey, Tom, nice to meet you. I'm Rob, your new favorite target and you don't even know it. Did you actually say that? Oh, but I should have. I should have. I was thinking of it, but I should have. That's amazing. Hi, I'm Tom. I'd be like, oh my God, you're the best thing in the world. That's insane. That's amazing. Okay, so listen. My first, that's when it got really interesting is I'm out at practice and like, you know, the first 10 minutes of practice, you're just warming up. You're kind of jogging through your first couple of routes to warm up the body. And I have a little slant route. It's just three steps and then you slant it. And I'm just sitting out there. It's probably like a 60% full speed route. So 60% off full speed. And I'm just sitting there and it's Tom. He's about to throw me to ball my first one ever. And I'm shaking. I'm shaking already. And then he throws it really nice and softly and I caught it and I just felt so successful just from warming up when I was 21 years old. And then you went on and won four rings with him, which is so insane after that one pass. And we saw yesterday, Aaron Rodgers on the OTA field throwing a beautiful ball right in the hands of Garrett Wilson who probably felt that same thing like, oh my God, this is it. This is success. So Lamar is taken care of. Aaron's taken care of. I wanna ask you about DeAndre Hopkins because a lot of people talk about him getting traded and he posted this on his Instagram yesterday. I see everybody telling me to stay. Who said I wanna go? Who said I wanted to leave? Am I here working, baby? He'd be in Arizona. Should he go somewhere else? Where should he go? No man, he's all over the place. But let me tell you, I was super clear with the other ones. Well, Lamar Jackson, I said he was gonna be staying in Baltimore when you actually in. Aaron Rodgers, whatever, a couple of months ago, you said, where is he gonna land? And I said to the Jets, so I'm two for two there. You know, I'm two for two in the quarterback world. You know, you gotta understand the quarterbacks. You gotta be on the same wavelength as them in order for them to throw you the passes. So you got a little special feel for them. But for DeAndre Hopkins, now he wants to stay with the Cardinals. He's in a tough situation because he's a little bit older. I think he got hurt the last year or two. So that's always a liability in the NFL world. And also he has a very expensive contract for about what, 23 mil, 24 mil, right? He's gonna pay. So no team just wants to take him on and just have to dish out $24 million like that. But on top of it, you know, you gotta look at his track record. I mean, unbelievable player. I feel like he can get open at any time. And even in a friggin, what is it called? Where you make a phone call, a phone booth. He can even get open in a phone booth. That's how quick, that's how quick he is. But I really do, I think he's gonna stay with the Cardinals. I don't think he's gonna take on his salary or else I think he would have already been traded. It's either the Cardinals or the Buffalo Bills if they move on from Diggs. It's a $30 million cap hit this year for Hopkins. So it's crazy. Yeah, no one wants that. But if you're the Bills, you're trying to win a Super Bowl. Everyone's barking about Aaron Rodgers drinking beers and singing songs at the Stupid Rangers game the other night, like you gotta be aggressive. If there's one team, it's the Bills, right? They draft the tight end, Kincaid in the first round, that'll help. But their passing game in October and on was 25th passing game in the league. Like they need a little spark there opposite Stefan Diggs and company. Also, I think Deandre, what will get traded if he agrees to restructuring his contract as well? Well, I think that will be a big component to it. All right, this is, I mean, you're the Gronk Stradamus over here, you're making these calls and they're happening. So that's incredible. You also told me that Travis Kelsey would be no advice when he was doing his Kelsey Jam. You said he's got this, it's fine. There have been videos, oh, he can wrong, wrong and long. He's officially hit his peak, right? Let's take a look at some of this. What did you make of this? Beerbonging the Lombardi, then spiking it? Yes, yes, Travis is a legend. I told you that he needs no advice. I've hung out with him. He came to Gronk Beach when it was in Vegas last year at the draft and now he had Kelsey Jam. So I just want to give a shout out to Medium Rare because they throw Gronk Beach and they threw Kelsey Jam. And I told you, he needed no advice. He came to Gronk Beach and he was ready to roll all his dance moves, all his antics, everything that he does, which is wonderful. I love it. He brings the juice to the table and he's always bringing the juice to the table, whatever he's doing right now. So that's why I knew he needed no introduction to the party game of hosting a party and he absolutely dominated it. I was on FaceTime with him during the party too for a minute or two and he was very energetic and that's what it's all about. He brings energy, he brings the juice to the table and when you bring juice to the table, you're always good in whatever situation you're in and that's what he does. I do think you taught him something though, even though you're being very humble and modest, that Lombardi Trophy that he spiked was a replica. He had a fake one made and I think that he wouldn't have had it up here, Gronk, to do that if it wasn't for the example you set here after your Super Bowl 53 run buddy. Yes, well, when he spiked that Lombardi Trophy, I was in shock too, but then I had to put it together. I was like, all right, that had 100% definitely had to be a replica of a Trophy. I mean, that's basically kind of trying to destroy the Trophy if you're spiking it. So I knew that was a great move that he did that. He chugged a beer, it was like the Stanley Cup or... Gronk, don't get that dent. Get out of it, that was Julian Edelman's fault. He threw the pitch. Yeah, he threw the pitch. True, but you know, Travis got a lot of grief for spiking that Lombardi and a lot of people said, Tom Brady literally threw the real Lombardi off of a boat. So why is he not getting that much grief? What do you think of that controversy? Yeah, no, there should be no grief. I mean, it was a replica Trophy. He probably bought it too. I have some replica Trophies. I buy them, I think they're like $1,200. So if you can do whatever you want, if you purchase your own Lombardi Trophy. It's good sage advice from Rob Gronkowski. Okay, we're gonna have a little fun before you go. You are nothing but a wonderful positivity and love for everybody. So our producers thought that we could take a look at some people having interesting weeks around the world and see which of the five famous love languages, okay? They could use right now. Now, of course, I'll tell you this. The five famous love languages, Gronk, are words of affirmation, saying nice stuff, spending quality time, receiving gifts, acts of service and physical touch. Have you ever heard of those before? I've heard of them. Yeah, I've heard of them. I like to get Camille on to see which ones. What's your love language, Gronk? I would say like snuggling. Snuggling, oh, quality time, physical touch, very cool. Okay, so let's start with this. NFL executives around the league, they were quote unquote annoyed with how much praise, eagles, GM, Howie Roseman got during the draft. Peter Schrager said this, your Fox friend, what kind of love do these jealous executives need right now? Oh, I love Peter Schrager. He's a great guy. I think it's definitely not receiving gifts because they basically have everything. Yeah. They receive plenty of gifts, but... Just nice words. Yeah, they need some physical touch in their life. Okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's what happens. Yeah, that's what happens. That's what happens. UGM's jealous of Howie Roseman, allegedly need a little love, need a little effect, a little TLC, just a little something. How about Taylor Swift? She's going through a breakup, but she's still on the road selling out arenas and kicking ass. What kind of love are we giving her? Oh man, she's absolutely destroying it. I think she's at the top of the game of love right now because she's loving what she's doing. She put on three-hour performances. You don't put on three-hour performances. I heard singing 44 songs without loving it. So I'll just say acts of service because that's what she's doing for this world. She's acting up her services and putting on shows for three hours long, which is ridiculous. Yeah, Gronk, we love it. How about Morgan Wallen? I don't know if you're a fan, but everyone loves him and he had to cancel a show recently. His fans are upset, claiming that he didn't show up because he had a couple too many waters before the performance. Gronk, what kind of love does he need right now? Oh man, too many waters. Well, he needs that physical touch, but he needs a physical IV then. Okay, that's good. Receiving gifts. He needs a gift of an IV. There we go, exactly. All right, I love that. All right, last one for you. The Boston Bruins, my friend. Yes, that was a tough situation. I mean, most wins. Most wins in NHL history. It's not a little jamboree lightning as well in 2019 when they had the best season of all time and then they lost in the first round and they got swept for nothing in the first round. And then to see the Bruins, I mean, that was a tough situation because the whole city of Boston, all of New England was kind of, you know, thinking that they're gonna win the cup and I thought they had a great chance of winning the cup as well. So they're gonna need some... All of it. Quality downtime to get over it. Quality downtime. What's the best way to get over a loss like that in the rare times that you've had that happen? I mean, the thing is, you gotta still look at it that it was a very successful season. I mean, what they did all year long, I mean, you can't really put your head down, but you gotta just take some time, you know. You gotta show the appreciation for all your teammates and everything, show each other some love for the long season that they just endured and just how successful they were. But just some quality time with your family outside of the hockey arena and with the guys and going on a vacation somewhere where the son could just, you know, take all those feelings and just zap them out of you. Zap out the feelings with physical touch, with words of affirmation, with receiving gifts, the love languages, with the snuggler, the dad of Ralphie. Listen, we're gonna hold the down at the derby for you. We know you're not going, so enjoy it. Whatever you're doing in LA, good luck on ridiculousness. We will watch Camille crush that yet again. And maybe at some point, I mean, Mother's Day is next week, we gotta get Mama Grant on. She's coming out for sure. Mama Grant is due to be on the show and she will be super excited to be on the show and she will bring the juice. She's ready. Amazing. She will bring the juice. We appreciate you have a good week. We've got no Gronk in the derby. We have a Forte, though. Former Great Bear, Forte's in pole position, right? He's like the favorite pole position. Is that what that, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, what is pole position? Fanduil is the only sports book app where you can bet the Kentucky Derby. That's right, the only one. And right now all customers get a no sweat derby bet up to 20 bucks. That's right, you can get up to $20 back if your derby win bet doesn't win. Head to Fanduil and get your no sweat bet in for the derby. We'll be back with Ken Rudolph to talk about Forte. Winning it all? Four days away, that's a good answer. Four days away from the Kentucky Derby and we are taking the show on the road up and Mint Jewelips will be live at Churchill Downs starting on Thursday. There's no person I would rather talk to about the derby than this guy. This is Candle's own Ken Rudolph. We call each other player. When we come and leave the studio. What's that in player? I need, I need help. No. I really need help. You're gonna be fine. This is like me cramming for a AP chemistry final. Like I need to like really get my stuff together. All right, well, here's the thing. You've done all the big sporting events, especially just did a Super Bowl recently, right? So you know what that's all about. You're a Super Bowl. Exactly, right? This is not a sporting event. This is a cultural event. Oh boy. Right, this is a grown up amusement park. This is for adults. This is, I call it grown folks business. Because we're betting, right? And we're enjoying ourselves in adult beverages. We're eating, we're dressed to the nines. We feel great about ourselves. What's that rule? Look good, feel good, feel good. You play good, play good, they pay good, right? So all this goes into going to the track. It is about enjoying yourself. It's about the culture of it, the experience of it. And then there's this Fandola Sportsbook app, which you can mess with. If you're too scared like me to go to the window, but we're gonna tackle that, you and I, in just a little bit. I do wanna show the post position. Yes. Forte, who's considered the favorite, has the 15th post position. That's a good luck post too. Is it really? Why? It's been quite a few winners from 15. Why? The situation where they had two gates. Okay, there's 20 horses gonna go into this race. They had two separate gates and they had an auxiliary gate. And the auxiliary gate was kind of the last five or six horses and they kind of had the advantage of not being stuck there in a weird spot. Now they're all in the same spot. They're all 20 going together. 15 is just a good spot to break from for that horse. We'll get a straight shot at the track, get a chance to get out. The problem when you break, there's 20 horses. Imagine running a marathon. If you're running like a half marathon or anything of that nature. Ken, are you joking? Yes, actually did it, but I have run a half. Right, so when you first take off, everyone's crowded, right? At the start, same thing with these horses. They're all jockeying for position and trying to get themselves in a good spot to be comfortable. And so everything, it's madness when they first break out of the gate. It's crazy. Okay, so it's crazy. So you just saw, so these are the finalists, right? And you, there's a couple guys that you like. We're talking about what the vibe is. You look good, feel good. There's some confidence with that. Who we got? Who do you like? Confidence is everything, right? Come on now. So there's a horse called Confidence Game. He's my pick. He's number 12. It's too long of a name. How do you figure? Four syllables is too much. What are you talking about? Confidence Game, right? When you're announcing it, it's like, come on. Come on, it was like, okay, you're right. Cause Gwankowski was perfect. Yeah, three syllables is. Three was nice. Two is great. Two, okay, go on. But the horse is just really talented. These are all young horses and we're projecting. That's the whole thing. We're saying, I think this horse is going to improve by blop, blop, blop on this day. And so he's just been training. He's a really nice horse. He won a really important race. The race he won was on a wet track. So I mean, it was raining all day. I forgot to tell you, I was expecting rain Friday and Saturday. That's what I hear of bummer. Well, yeah, a little bit. It's a tiny bit, but it's still a good party. They can't rain on that parade. It's impossible. Got it. So you like Confidence Game. You told me last time about portes. Is there another one you like? Well, the other horse, and it's kind of two things. My favorite basketball team is the Sacramento Kings. Oh. And my best friend's last name is Barnes. So Kings Barnes is the horse that I think is the speed. Now, okay, I was going to say, were those the reasons you like this horse? Well, I like that little name too. I would pick my horse. But I think that's important for the Kentucky Derby. Names are so cool, and they've all earned the right to be here. So if you like one of the 20 horses, just because of the name, that's perfect. Because they all belong here. This is not a random drawing, where they're like, hey, you come here. They all burned it. Hitch show is kind of funny. I like something, I mean, disarm. See what I'm saying? And these are all kind of... That's an old smash and punk song. You like that? Sure, sure. Disarming with a smile. There you go, look at you. Forte we love. How about Angel of Empire? That's an awesome horse. Okay, tell me about it. That's in my top five. Really? Yes, that horse is incredibly consistent. And for some strange reason, he never gets into trouble in the races. That means he's so good and so versatile, he avoids all the traffic and the trouble because he's so talented. So the jockey just moves him out of the way and he goes wherever they want to go. And when it's time to go, they push that button and he takes off. He's incredible. What are the physical attributes of these horses when I'm there on Saturday that I'm looking at, when I'm trying to figure out where I want to put my money? Really? Yeah. Well, we're not, I don't think, at that level where you can look at the most important part of the horse, which is the Boss 98. I'm going to pretend that I'm at that level. The most important part of the horse is the caboose, the backside. That's the engine. I call it the Boss 98. That's where they get everything going. But you have to have experience in looking at that to be able to determine if that particular backside is more muscular than another. So what am I looking for on, is there any tells, are there any tricks when I'm there? Or do I already know going in, this is the horse I want to bet on? Both. You need to have a plan. You need to stick with your plan. No matter what. Horse racing is a microcosm for life. You need to have a plan and stick to that plan and have some confidence. But you also need to be able to adjust a little bit, time to time. If you see a horse that you really like, but you're watching the horse before the race and they look like they're completely out of sorts, right? You're there extremely composed, mellow on TV. That's not true, but okay. That's what the horse is supposed to be doing. Okay, really, they're not supposed to be- You're supposed to be chilling and relaxed. If you see a horse and they're doing all kinds of stuff and they're, you don't want that horse in the race anymore. Really? They're wasting all of their energy now before the race. When am I putting in this bet? Before the, like, I will see them out there like hanging out before? They walk around in a place called the paddock. In the paddock, and you may not want to go down there because it's so crowded, you'll be up in the suites or in the box, you can see everything. That's right, can I? Yes. And so they'll walk around for maybe 15 minutes, 20 minutes in the paddock, that's them getting prepared. They've trained for that moment. They school them in the paddock now. That means they get them prepared to come out and have 140,000 people screaming at them. Horses get crazy sometimes. So they have to train them for that moment, right? We rehearse our shows, we rehearse everything, they rehearse this moment. Is there a horse named Xanax? Because then that's the one that I would... That has not... That's the one that I would bet on, because it sounds like the one, that's the personality trait I'm looking for, someone who's... You're gonna be so surprised. It's like you can do it. On a muscle relaxer can. You were, like, we've seen athletes at every different level, and you've been doing this a long time. It's the same, horses are athletes. It's the same exact thing. When you see an athlete out there, you know just by the way they're walking, that that's an athlete. You can just tell. So Confidence Game, Angel Empire, Kings Barnes, who has the best chance to be your Jacomo? You're, like, those are sort of favorites, but is there a dark horse? Because you made that call that I just saw on YouTube, which was hilarious. That was good times. Yes. That was good times. Well, I'm hoping that Confidence Game is... I think he's gonna be half the price. Jacomo was 50 to one, but I think Confidence Game will be 25 to one, and I'm okay with that. I'm good with that. I'll make all the money I need to make, and I'll be happy, and woo-hoo, yay, good for them. Tell me this. So I'm thinking it's when I'm picking a horse, it's a third the name, a third the horse's demeanor. Yeah, yeah. And a third, what's the vibe of the jockey? Like, is that pretty fair? Like, I want to, like, because a lot of hot kind of has to work, or is one, what's the most important thing? What's the best piece of advice you can do? Well, it depends upon our approach. So my approach is I'm a handicapper. So I look at the numbers and all the data, and then I actually handicap the race, because that's what I... Precisely, because I'm trained to do that. I've been doing that for 24 years. That's understandable. You just want to be comfortable with the horse that you've selected. So if there's a name in there, that means something to you. If there's a number. I'm gonna bet on all of them. Is that a thing? Why not? Is that a faux pas? I know we're paying ridiculous money here, but you do not have that much. For like $2, what do you think of, what do you think, I would love to know, we have 10 seconds. What do you think I would bet on a horse? It'll be like $1. You have to bet $10. What's the minimum? The $2. That will be betting $2 on every horse. You bet $10. I'll give you $8 right now.