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I'm so dedicated for this YouTube live and I actually went to a cafe to make sure we can run this. I almost canceled it. Maybe I should go to the cafe. If you can hear me well, come on on the chat. And also whoever joined us, please make sure come on the chat what's your name where you're from and what was the last time you worked out. So I'm very proud to report. Actually, yesterday I worked out very happy and actually the cafe is in my gym. Even if we have power, the gym always have power. So I'm very happy and we have internet power so we can share with you regarding what the best strategy for you to learn your program and internship. Okay, and also later say I also have a private event with my students talking about PM internship. And I hope all of you guys are able to use very similar strategy to learn your dream can internship as well. So let's see who else is here. Phoenix, how are you? Shankir, and how are you? Hello, it's from India. What time is it in India right now? It's pretty late, must be like 2am. Radha, how are you? Hello, hello from LinkedIn messages. Welcome, welcome guys. So today's talk is about PM internship. Now let me do this very quickly and regarding the PM internship something I do want to share with all of you guys regarding the best methodology to become PM interns. So now let me do this. Let me quickly share my screen once we get started. And also for people who join us, feel free to put your questions on the chat regarding what's your best questions or strategies or confusions regarding many of dream game internship. Of course there's lots of new up there if you want to share with all of you guys regarding internship to say many interesting observations I have seen in the market right now. So let's get started and let me do this. Let me share my screen. Let me share one tab. So let's focus on our main topic about PM internship today. It's very important for everybody. If you already made a PM internship job offer, congratulations. If you haven't, you really need to pay attention to today's specific talk. Okay, we only have a few weeks left before you now the internship offer before the next cycle start worship in the spring. Okay, now specifically for PM internship. First of all, I do want to share with you some like inspiring stories and maybe news and actually Let me tell you a story regarding PM internship and also happened to our students them as well. So currently our students them are ready to receive an offer from Microsoft as a PM intern. And now our student Anna recently also received the PM like the intern job offer within two weeks as well. Now let me just really share with you regarding how they did it. And in later on tonight, my talk to the NYU student exclusive event I'm going to share with Anna's resume in those inclusive events where you know how to write a resume, specifically with like screenshot of a resume so you can use the same strategy to craft your resume as well. But in today's general talk right now. Let me also share with you how Anna did it. So Anna her background is computer. Factory degree in math and econ. She doesn't know how to code at all. But she's someone who is very determined and takes things very seriously in terms of job hunting. And she was able to make her first PM internship within two weeks. And today I'm going to share with you how exactly she did it in a high level she's deploying. Number one thing is that she's a neprosy strategy to identify those opportunities. Number two, she also started to rewrite her resume completely use a new template. Number three, she also started to build your portfolio to gain experience show up a relevant experience as a part of manager. Okay, so I'm going to walk through all those three things today. I want all of the guests that came internship it's possible, because right now we all know. Twitter just announced layoff they lay off half of the employees and very friendly guys every single week that people reach out and you say hey I was layoff Nancy I don't know what to do. What's the best strategy and I'm supposed to an internship offer right now but right now I don't even have an interview something is very wrong. Right, so lots of people very, very free cows regarding this new environment what they can do. And so therefore I want to get to take lots of notes if you don't have PM internship by now, you should be worried a little bit and very, very, very serious. Okay, but there's still some. That all opportunities that we need to tackle today. Okay, so now let's continue. Sharing this we don't need to share Eric story we can do it next time and now it's quick question anybody who have upcoming interviews. You should go to our website documents that comes to 50 fans to download your 50 fan into the question database, so you're able to use the same real life into the questions to get ready for your upcoming interview in my big fan companies or tier one companies okay all those questions are very similar, especially for tier one company so use this website.com to get ready for upcoming interview and anyone who can join it for free coaching. In the description of this video I might team already put a link where you submit a form to quickly put in your email information and request the zoom link to join me live you want to join me live right now to receive free coaching you can email me as well. I'm going to put my email in the chat email Nancy darknessy.com. And then I can put you into the zoom right now so let me put in the chat for anybody who want to join me live. Okay, so let me. What's that let me put it here. So it's yeah 145am in there right now I'm very dedicated so anyone who want to see the. Yes, anyone who want to do the live coaching with me right now join me on zoom email me right now and the email title should be YouTube live zoom link YouTube live zoom link okay then I can put you to join me live right now. Now let me do this let me go back to let me mark in my email. So that everyone who joined me I can see your email just make sure it's YouTube live the link and then I can directly. Put you up okay great so just check. Email quickly awesome awesome. And now let's do this let's continue my slides and those with the internship profits very good advice. It's crazy okay special internship okay so how you get free coaching whoever get prioritized for free coaching are people who directly support nonprofits so every year I do one one donation mattress nonprofit up to $20,000 every single year in the past three years. I want all of you guys to whoever donate in nonprofits will help me to achieve my nonprofit vision you can receive free coaching from me as well so email me if you support any nonprofit. We do one one donation matches which means you donate $1 more than $1 as well and forever has the most lives comments and shares of my YouTube. or Instagram or LinkedIn content is going to get invited for free coaching for me as well. Okay, so anybody who is interested in PMS editor and you should go to this website. documents.com slash master class to learn more about our training program and let me also go here so we have a training program will help people blend the dream team job offer it. Fem flash companies and unicorn startup. If you want to speed up your success, you should go to this website documents.com slash master class and step one to learn about different kind of services. Now, there's also three groups I want you guys to take a screenshot right now, which are group and they think groups, you're able to find lots of people that's very similar background like you to do marketing to view so go here and start to find a marketing to go partner to find the body and communities. That's very critical to continue to grow your career. Okay, so now, let's talk about internship. I'll have some questions here. Need help in resume review and elevate the page. I'm not getting any response. Okay, so if you already send me a question we go for pre submitted questions. Okay, but at the same time, let me give an overview regarding internship and the strategies. Let me stop sharing. Stop sharing. Stop. Okay, so yes. Now, let me give you an overview regarding if currently looking for p.m. internship. This is what you need to do. Number one is that you really need to understand the timing for different type of companies. Number one thing most important thing for fan companies, and you already missed it at that time. Most of us are already received an offer from a fan company right now for the p.m. internship. So the offer is out if you're still in the interview process with fan company you're towards the later rounds of the interview with fan company is likely you can still receive an offer but if you're at the beginning with fan companies and you haven't received any interview with fan companies is likely the position filled already. So which means that you can target other tier one companies such as Tesla. I believe Tesla just opened the p.m. internship opportunities like two weeks ago to target those companies and look around. And whenever you apply for this job. The first batch whenever they suddenly open those positions is when it's most likely you will be invited for an interview so it's very critical get ready for your interview with these companies. Okay, so whenever the open you go in right away for the fan company talk about earlier they open the application in August. Okay, almost all fan company internship in August so you really need to take advantage of the time. Now if you're speaking in November. The other companies you should vote a pay attention to and actually some of the students are still interviewing with like the visa mastercard, like serious exam like different kind of companies for interns. So those are very large companies they're still hiring p.m. interns, but they're just not fan companies yet but I still believe that those companies have great potential very large organization and there's lots of things you can learn in those large companies. So pay attention to those big companies. And I forgot to do my background choose virtual background. This one. Yes, okay great. Now, except the fan companies, the second time frame you need to understand is that the p.m. internship time, they, you can still apply for tier one company large company until November. And there's still lots of p.m. interview opportunities in the middle of November basically anything before Thanksgiving there's still lots of opportunities out there and especially for like non fan company any large companies such as Walmart or Verizon. I was working for Verizon like many years ago we're doing like p.m. internship in like mid of November right before Thanksgiving. So the still large companies that's available to him internship. But once you hit December everything will slow down so Thanksgiving is a very important mark I want you to hit. Okay, so increase your application volume and also increase in networking strategy land those interviews, very, very critical. And the true is that, once you know the timing is very critical for people looking for p.m. internship, you really need to have your perfect p.m. resume. The resume is very critical. Okay, so because it's very competitive everyone want to become a manager and especially people without experience. If anyone without experience can become p.m. and then which means majority of people without experience will apply so it's extremely competitive. In this case what you need to do immediately is that you need to use the portfolio strategy. Okay, so on your resume. And then you put a portfolio experience on your resume, and that is going to qualify you for relevant experience to put a manager because when you build your project your portfolio, you're done customer interviews you already built customer persona. So all those experience can be written on your resume and because you're competing for p.m. intern, not full time job, when then people compare you with other candidate oh this person already started working on product like project or the different kind of portfolio already know how to cut some interviews and knows how to write requirements. And those are very, very important critical for you to show up to other people saying oh no see this is the best experience I have done in the past. This is how much value it can bring to a new organization because I have done related stuff in the past. Okay so very, very important use the product portfolio strategy to qualify you for those p.m. internship. Now, number three is that on your resume except the p.m. keywords won't hit which is all the like internship or the portfolio experience which we asked you to build you also need to talk about the impact and also show up your transfer skills. For example, also Anna is crazy so Anna's experience is more about she was doing tax her past experience being tax accounting children wouldn't hear to help people to the tax return. She basically the professor, her accounting professor had a side job which is helping people to tax return, then she wouldn't hear for professors to do tax return. It's crazy so no wonder if she wants tax return a little bit off because I You're the freshman students doing tax return for what people like maybe some number and maybe check but we don't know. So basically she's doing a tax return at the internship. So on her resume which means that nothing to do tax return CPA so nothing to do with management right so her best strategy is that she talked about the impact she brought up for the tax return. For example, specifically what she did was on her resume. Let me quickly show you her resume and actually tonight in today's It's crucially talked to and by you. I'm going to share this but now I can share your head of time. Hopefully you're able to learn something from this experience. So let me show you the slide this one. Very funny. So this is her old resume which is doing income tax assistant her old experience right so everything is writing like master lessons software to complete advanced individual income tax report was a okay okay you did tax return and they do volunteer work for tax return I think it's crazy. And then we change the community country on her resume. You see this so experience like college experience, the new experience we call this internship leadership. Aha, the description is different immediately. And then she also talked about the actions she did collective organize and updated different information so those are very action driven for her new job at the manager intern as well because you need to collect customer voice of customer interviews with organized requirement many different things. And what kind of tool she used she said she used Excel if some of you guys see cool or any like, like that map anything you should point out or tools and use and then you're also being able to use different kind of percentage of growth she was like oh in the past she said oh I was able to tax return but new one she said I did 40% more tax report than other tax preparers during the season so basically she said she's way more efficient than other people. Alright so I want to use this as inspiration for all of you guys to think about how you're able to rewrite your experience as well. So it's not about describing your experience it's not it's more about what the value can bring to the organization, how much is relevant for the management. And of course, Anna is also part of PM Exciter and she's our program. She's actually like she learned her first job within two weeks she also started to hire three other alumni working for her company. And she also started to manage at the interns as she become even more senior compared with other people she's like doing amazing job was because she knows how to repackage her experience. So it's different and she also started to do part of the photo to show off her skills. Okay that's how she was able to learn like PM internship within two weeks. Okay well all of you guys to start to understand the timing, timing is number one you miss the timing means everything right and number two is rewrite your resume. And number three is good to put up a photo show your relevant experience. Those are very critical for PM interns and number four is also using networking strategies to learn more interview opportunities. And so that's most important thing actually to present the resume in front of the hiring manager. So pitch yourself to hiring managers or directly to referral network. So inside of PM Exciter we have lots of referral network where we teach about how you're able to use our very big alumni referral network and then the interview opportunities in those companies. All right, so let me see any questions I have. It throws a little bit. Diana, how are you doing? Hello. Awesome. Okay great. So, feel free to put your comment in the chat now at the same time. Let me share my screen. And then we review pre-submitted questions. Do we okay we have some pre-submitted questions. Okay let me answer this question first. Diana said how about career transition from design background. Okay great question. So, actually design is very similar to management because you actually work on product mock-up and those why your friends are mock-up is very transferable to the MEP which you will be doing. If you have design background his number one thing you need to do is when you do design, you are using design you must contact customer interviews. Okay, so now once you contact customer interviews how would you be able to transfer that? UIUS design customer interviews are different from product management interview but it did those interviews. So you just need to quickly describe how your past customer interview experience leading to understand the customer pain point. So those are what product managers are doing a new thing in our systems and actually we have student Yichen. Also Yichen she is the UIUS designer and she was able to plan a 2pm job offer fresh out of her college degree. Okay, and you can actually go to our website to learn more about Yichen's background as well so go to www.darkness.com in our testimonial to find people with similar background just like you. So the number one thing regarding customer interview. So number two thing is that if a UIUS designer and actually it's great that in the process of designing your past experience did you do something related to proposing any product features? If so you should put them into your product portfolio. But I believe the most important thing for any UIUS designer to do is actually understand in real life what does a product manager do? How to think as a product leader when you do a different kind of product and then once you know in real life how product manager do customer interviews with the right methodology, how to write a requirement, how to work with engineers. And then you're more confident present yourself telling us so when I was UIUS designer I work very front end regarding product management. So that's something you can talk about your transferable skills. And then number three is most important you need to do the product portfolio and I emphasize many many times. If you have a product portfolio, you are able to increase your success rates significantly because compare with any other candidate. If you don't know what the best strategy to become a product manager and product portfolio is a way to go. Because you're going to demonstrate that hey, even if I have a designer title, but I don't have ABCD background, but I already built product portfolio to demonstrate I can do the job starting from day one. So people train you and people directly say oh I have confidence because she was able to demonstrate her skills before she even come in to do the job. It's much more likely you're able to do the job. Now let me also give you a real life example how I hired like three people in my team. So recently I lay off one people from my team, then I replace a person by three people. So I hire one person and hire three more people. Okay, so how do I select the best candidate is that I make the candidate to do my two homework, each of them did two homeworks. And then I can tell wow this person is very good responding customer messages. And I can tell some of them had really good experience with like influencer marketing, because they'll be doing the homework to demonstrate the experience. And then when I hired them, I know I already hired the best candidate out of hundreds of people I already featured. So your portfolio is the number one thing to demonstrate you're able to do the job very well. Extremely important. Okay, so how do you put a portfolio I have free training you guys should check out. Let me check out the free training. Let me show you free training. Let me go to YouTube channel one sec. YouTube channel right here. Okay, let's go to my YouTube channel right here and then portfolio you put in keywords portfolio. How to build a product manager portfolio to succeed in the product management interview so it's here. So it's right here, so please make sure I have many, many different videos about portfolio so go to my channel and search for portfolio is are here. Okay, so this one is the most popular video about portfolio make sure you watch this and give a like to 636 different likes already. All of you guys need to watch it. Okay, so come here and study this and then you know how to use your portfolio. And of course, inside of PMX Center, we teach people how to be able to put up a photo, hold their hands and teach them what the best methodology and also we've used a product portfolio help them to gain hands on experience. If you're interested in PMX Center go to our website documents.com and learn more. And actually, we're having a live webinar. Next week, I want all of you guys to join those if you are determined to quickly land your PM job offer, especially for people who laid off and trying to figure out what the best way to complete transition management so that's the best strategies in your immediate space. Okay. Now, let me share my screen to you. Let me see do we have more interview or any more questions. Let me do this. Let me share my screen quickly. Right here. See you guys. Okay, great. So, I need help in revenue review and elevator pitch so far I'm not getting any response from the job applied. I believe it's because my resume so it's not, I'm not graduated from the top university or work with any top company that 10 years of experience. Including five years on non IT experience. I believe getting low pay is one of the reasons because I'm getting whatever five something per annual I accept my current role we should package because I tried. Okay, great. So looks like this person has lots of different challenges. So first of all, yes, it's right. If you couldn't manage interviews likely your resume is off. Okay, you apply online. It's crazy someone applied for over 2000 jobs. You couldn't even manage interview because resume is very off. Okay, it's crazy so it's immediately please rewrite your resume. We have an also your 30 seconds elevator pitch because once you write the resume is the next step is to pitch yourself to hybrid managers. So let me show you guys some free training we have. And of course, inside PM a certain we help you to write the resume and swap. So let me show you guys some free thing can get started and and where you can join us for live resume review so did I show this okay so right here, the resume come here. I just watched video is to this two videos. Part of my resume tips and PM resume keywords also to most important videos you just study, starting from this one so in the description of this video you're able to download our Peter, Peter PM PM resume resume right here and that's you need to use build your resume. If something is missing for your resume and now after that you need to watch a PM keywords. There are different kind of keywords we described in this training, and it's going to hit all the keywords in your resume for missing those for sure you are not able to receive any any interviews and afterwards you do a pitch. Now let me also share with you regarding how to get live. Resume review with us you go to go from the computer calm. So go to the website, the services. We have shopping resume and LinkedIn profile so we have a service about this, which will help people with the best strategy to land on interviews in 10 plus companies within four weeks. And so we guarantee if you're not able to land in the interviews after we review your resume and using our networking strategies you're going to get full refund. Okay, so we'll see a month you're able to land so many different opportunities. Okay, so here is how you do live resume review with all of us, and you come here to figure out, like, if you're interested in any of the live resume review with us so come to documents at the time you're able to see. The different services we offer. Okay, cool. Now let me. Let me, let me answer the next question. Great. So next question we have it has to help you really PM a pro program. Yes, the PM a pro programs number one step is that the program is designed help people to land their dream here job offer. The number one thing is that you go to our masterclass, and documents is the consulate masterclass. Once you get here. You can attend our latest masterclass with a lay off lay off survival strategy learn how to land your dream team job in 60 days using different strategy will teach you here so pick the right kind of most suitable for you to own our upcoming webinar. Okay, pick it and you should be set for your upcoming strategy. Okay, so this is how you see this. So let me see any other questions we have. How to make self introduction she asks this question how to make self introduction very good question. Okay, so how to make self introduction is very critical. You need to introduce yourself within 30 seconds so that people will remind remember you. Okay, so for example, right now when I introduce myself as someone who's a founder for manager accelerator. I'm going to introduce myself as if I am Dr. Nancy Lee, I am a director of products and featured in boards. I've helped 100 people land their dream job offer in fan companies and you can start up and continue to get promoted as a part leader. So this is my introduction and then I'll tell them the impact I made right so for you, you should have a different kind of introduction. So the way I structure my introduction is based on the impact I bring and also the credibility again as a part of the right product and also someone who are featured on board. So those are the advantages and the following sentences about impact of 100 people manage your job offer in fan plus companies and you can start up. And, and actually 25% of our offers came from bank company so very, very excited about our phone actually has the highest number of here one company offers with any other company so therefore, and if we determine to end like best offers of the issue check out our website documents we can learn more. So now, when you do self introduction of yourself a job on the purpose is to use a 30 seconds to elevate the page framework, the framework goes like this give you a summary I have years of experience I am dark and sweet I have five years of serious long chain developing technology product give a summary, and then you tell them the most impressive story of yourself so that I heard it gonna fall off the chair. For example, we can. My story came from. If I'm looking for job, my very first story will be, I launched the first. I launched the first smart cities product that helps cities reduce car crashes and, and also the product was awarded as a mayor best practice award, and quickly deployed within 10 cities within six months. The examples telling people the impact I made when I launched this product, which is helping city to reduce crashes and also receive a word and also quickly deploy by cities showing the success of the product I have created. So when you do self introduction, you should think about how you're able to tell impressive story of yourself does relevant for the management. Okay, so I have a free training that want to get to actually watch. Come here. Tell me about your style. Did I share the wrong screen phone. I think I share the wrong of this one, this one. So you come here, tell me about yourself. Now, the latest what I've published tell me about yourself. Okay, so how you introduce yourself. So this video has a live example of how I transform someone else. Tell me about yourself answer into something more impactful and more memorable. I want all of you the same strategy for your own as well. So watch this live training how we transform this person's elevator pitch into something very impressive. I bet my not sure it's enough and job offers because her introduction was very impressive. I'm repackaged by us. Yeah, she started here and there's another video how to tell me tell me about us as a manager interviewer. So I think we should have another summary of the videos we published in the past we should watch this one as well and also give us a moment 931 different likes are ready so make sure you watch this and also help you to gain and grow your career path as well. Okay, so let me see any other questions. Let me see any questions in the chat. I'm doing a one year MBA program. MBA program not got in touch with any company and they said that I won't be suitable for an internship but rather try for full time because of the electrical work. Only from March, I'll be graduating in June. Would you please suggest one is a good time to start applying for four times. Okay. You should apply for full time right now. Okay, immediately immediately the better companies they start to hire right now the big company. I need to hear what a large size company have heard of they start to hire full time already. Okay, and now, especially for fresh graduates who are MBAs and for example, Amazon, Amazon already made offers to some of the students to graduate the next year. Okay, so there is like famous companies, you should apply for full time job right now for famous companies. Okay, for companies never heard of. Okay, let me just plan a job. You can apply anytime. Okay, you really need to understand your timing. Okay, very, very important famous company now small million companies you can wait you can wait until you graduate. So that's a key. Okay. Now, let me let me answer next question. I have many tabs open this next question. From darkness see is this a good idea to let her move from project management from product management or a new company. Let me and ask this question very good question. So do you mean you let her move within your company from project manager product manager. So if you can, pretty thing, if you can do let her move you should within the same company because recession is coming to refrain if you can do let her move, but some companies they don't give you a high compensation. This might learn. Okay, whenever you let her move. We actually have a student is crazy. So after she took course from TMX editor, which go here for a more after took the course from us. In the product management course, we taught her we taught her exactly how you do like lateral move within company. And then once you land a job offer. And she was like, Oh my goodness, this is crazy her company wasn't able to offer the same kind of salary. So she decided to like jump into a new company to land a better road. Okay, so if you can maintain your salary within the same company, and then move over to a new company. You can do that and gradually move it but if the company thought able to give you the same story will increase the story and I would rather you land a job offer outside because it's more important to maintain your salary. If you land in any job offer outside any jobs you land you should gain at least 30% growth for your new job. Okay, so that's like in general all students whenever they drop off 30% growth. On average, our student salary growth is 70,000, 70,000, 70,000, 70,000 dollars growth in terms of every salary the girl. So once you guys to think about it's your salary gain or title. So figure out either way is fine. You just cannot lower your salary. If the salary is lower, you better to jump into a new company. But because the recession is coming, if you can do transfer within the same company, of course, the safest I recommend to do so. But just make sure your salary they can match your salary. That's the number one thing. Okay. So if you want to learn any product management course, how to transition, make a smooth transition from project management, product management, this will be teach inside our product management course called PMS. You're able to learn more there as well. Yes, we also offer product management certification as part of our program. So let me answer your next question. Oh, we answered this already. I'll introduce yourself. We answered this as small tree and experience PM. Yes. So if your experience can more think about promotion. I should go to this website. I want to learn about the promotion strategy, which we lay out for you. Okay, so come to this website. Our website has many different things. So talk about different growth opportunities, different students have leveraged their career going to a different level. You should study and learn more about our program. Okay, so go to docmancy.com and on the services and many different offers we have right now. Yeah, this is last week we had an anonymous panel very excited. I was doing Adam and talked about how can I see PM offers and two similar offers in the US as a Canadian citizen so very excited for his growth. So let me do this. Let me. Let me answer the questions we submitted. Thank you. I have three years experience in transaction risk investigation and now looking to apply for product manager role. What transfer skills can I use great. So today I'm going to talk about the six essential PM skills and actually like two weeks ago when I did YouTube library talk about the skills. Now, if you already have done a risk investigation and if you want to transition to PM roles, the transfer skills could be for example, you're doing like transaction risk investigation. Did you do like data analytics, you do AB testing and those relevant product managers. So when you investigate those risks, you do working cross functional team, that's very transferable. Okay, and then after you work with cross functional team to propose any product features. If you did that's also very transferable so all of those are extremely relevant for the new job. For sure. You have in resume, right, resume review. Yes, for resume review, as I said, you go to our website and let me show you. You can also do live resume review with me by submitting your resume to my team. Because there is a lot of smoke. All right, resume review. I talked about it earlier. You go to. Shopping resume and PM LinkedIn profile, resume review and LinkedIn profile. So you can directly book a session right here. Okay. Now, for free resume review, you can directly email my team and make sure the slides where you can email my team. Your free resume review, go here, email my team, right here, right here. Has info, so email him to everyone on receive free resume review, email him your resume and then next week when we go live, I'm going to review resume slide. Okay. Cool. You have two tracks to do it. And one free one paid options. It just shows which one works best for you. And that has said, I have four years experience, but not exactly products, products that are relevant to it comes out. This suggests me apply as a work person or one with no PM experience. You should apply for someone who already have related PM experience. Not like you have no PM experience. We do not suggest people to do things that, oh, I have no PM experience. If you already done something related to it, it's not everything end to end, no problem. You still need to qualify yourself as someone already have related management experience. Like it comes out is extremely relevant. Okay, I think it's very, it's very good. You already have done that. You already had advantage compared with other people. Okay, so congratulations. That's an advantage. So therefore, you should, you should. Now, for the part I'm very sincere with you guys for the part you haven't done fully, you need to build a product before. Okay, because you cannot fool others. As a hiring manager, I need to, even for my team, I need to be 100 people. Hundreds of people for my team to select the best candidate. A smart hiring manager knows who is the best candidate. And especially nowadays, like Twitter lay out half of the employees. It's extremely competitive. If you don't know how to do it well, you better learn. Okay, build a product before you gain some hands-on experience. If you want to take part of management course that would teach you how to do it and how to master all the skills, you go to this website. And a lot more and register for our upcoming live masterclass and will teach you how to create those recession proof and layoff proof strategy. Okay, cool. To do that. Let me know if you have any questions. You can see the time. I'm glad you already have a really good experience. That's very good. Masua, do people got PM jobs in India? Yes, yes. Getting jobs, getting PM jobs in India. No problem. You've already in India, getting PM jobs in India. Totally no problem. I have very high confidence you can do the same. Okay. Cool. Yes. Go directly. Go to our website. Let me show you again how things work. Go to our website. About who did we select to join the program. Everything is there. Okay, right here. And also see our documents. And then final for our next masterclass. Everything is here. Perfect. Okay. So and see who did that to join the program. And then you can also find out our different testimonials examples of people with various data background. Just like you on our website. Okay, cool. Right. You can see Anna right here. It's nice. All right. Let me see any other questions we have. Okay, great. So it looks like we have answered all our questions. And we will answer all the questions. Okay. Now, and we're going to answer all the questions. That's a lot with everybody. And I hope all of you guys are able to quickly survive from this winter. And even if it's lots of layoffs. And remember that the best candidate will also learn the job. We just harder and more complex, more competition at this moment. If you need help, you want to take for a management course, where we teach you how to quickly land your dream job offer, even if you wish and they are to go to website documents. And that's it. All right. Awesome. Okay. I'm going to see you guys soon and so please join me next week. I want to receive free coaching and email my team. They're going to send you an invitation joining live on Zoom to get customers. Awesome. So talk to you soon. See you guys. Bye.