 Dylun i fynd y mae'r panffinio strategi a'r cymryddau i'r gwerthfawr yn ystyried ar gyfer y dynodau ar gyfer y cyfnodau president, mae'n gweithio bod y dynnu'r dros diwrnodau president y ymlaen i'r Cymru, APC, a'r teamau'n cyfnodau cywir yn y 1993 os ymwysigol Lait, i'r Llauol Cysymau Cysymau, a'n gweithio'r Llauol Cysymau am y 2015 apc bohari. Mae'r modri bod yn cyfnodd y ffordd ychydig iawn ar y bionllun cymryd yma, bod ar gyfer y ddych yn 12 yma yn 1993, yn ymryd gyntaf gyda'r ysgol yn Llyfrgell, yn Ymryd Ysgolol, a Gweithio Ysgol yn bwysigol yma yn ymrwyng hwnnw, i'r chyfnod ymgyrch yn ni, yn dda, i'r llawdau cymryd. Yn ymdinkam hynny, ymdinkam hynny'n gweithio'r hynny, mae'r Ysgol yn ein cyfrydol yma, a fyddwn i gweithio'r all-progrwp yng Nghymru yn Llegos. Yn ystafell, mae'n fyddwn i'n fath o'r un arall. Yn ystafell, mae'n fath o'r un o'r Yn ystafell. Mae'n fath o'n rhoi i'r Fylltwynt 80-page ymddangos a'r ffyrdd, fel y mynd i'r ffyrdd. Mae'r fyrdd yma, mae'n fyrdd i'r fyrdd i'r fyrdd i'r fyrdd i'r fyrdd i'r fyrdd i'r fyrdd i'r fyrdd i'r fyrdd. Ond dylai o'r ryhywch am y dyliodraeth teleth afoddiad i'r fforddaf mynyddoedd. Mae'n bwysig yn ysgrifennu wneud rydyn ni, ar 66 ydyn nhw yma'r dysgrifennu Cywret ar gyferhewgrum sydd hefyd yn cymryd. Yn fynd o'r awglai o'r rhydwm hyn yn ystod i'r newid yma yw cyfryd yn y 2015. Mae'n gallu gwneud Ierwyr, Moramudd y Bohair. Oherwydd iawn a'n helpu'r gyrraedd терhau yma cofio rydyn ni'n cael y fany? Dw i'n ganchael. Well, thank you very much. We must try to understand one thing, that Open 93, that Chief Mosul Cajma Olawala Biola, actually used to converse for 14 Nigeria, is as relevant as 1993, we must get it right. A what is more of causes, that manifesto of Chibenkyw Abiola was actually a nationalistic manifesto that was embraced, accepted and endorsed by all Nigerians from all walks of life. And what is more is that the man was never allowed to enjoy the food of his neighbor, was never allowed. And I think it is to consider Pinoff, leadership of APC, that as long as that 1993 is still relevant is important for us. Hello. We can hear you go ahead. Go ahead. Yes sir, that it is important for Nigerians to enjoy that failure at the time of 1993, in 2023, true of the matter of causes this, that manifesto was drafted by the best brains Nigeria had ever produced, including the current president candidate of APC Ashwajibola Mettinobu. You see, we must have to be a student of history. Ashwajibola Mettinobu was a major participant in that Open 93 process. So in that process, when he was now claiming that, well, he was taking what Beolard in 1993 to 2003. Well, that means we are not trying to actually look at the issue listically. In that document, Ashwajibola Mettinobu participated in the drafting and I've realized that Nigerians in 1993 were never allowed by Mr Junta to enjoy what was contained in that document. And the best thing to be done in the circumstance, of course, was to see what could be done by APC now in ensuring that Nigerians actually enjoy that fruit of that thing. And let me say this. Let me say this. Open 93 that APC is using now. APC said renewed hope. It means something. It means APC is not totally claiming authorship of this document. They are saying we are renewing hope. So we should also say that what are they renewing? And that is taking us back to 1993 Open 93. It's as simple as that. So which means APC leadership and APC presidential candidates were equally aware that when we are going back to 1993 when we had a robust manifesto that if it was allowed to be implemented, Nigeria would not be where it is today. And unfortunately, people were thinking that we knew hope was actually talking about President Muhammad Uwami. No. We are saying that 1993 that Nigerians are not minding our religion, not minding our ethnicity, voted overwhelmingly for the mandate of SCP, represented by Team MK Abelah, and I was talking about King Gibbet. Even in Canada, Mr Bashul Tofa, who was the NRC candidate, came from MK Abelah, who won there. And the thinking of VPC leadership of course is that the time is now for us to go back to that Open 93 manifesto and see what we can do. And let me say this. Nigerians and Nigerian politicians, we have this problem. Continuities are a problem. We do not believe that when the programme of presence is in place, if you are coming on board, you must continue from where the outgoing or the government stops. So the thinking of course is that Open 93 of MK Abelah, which is by and by to poverty, which is not to unemployment, are not that good things. We are saying come. That document is there. Let us bring it to life and see what we can do to actually bring it into the current reality and as a sense of adding what we have in 2015 to that document, making it now a whole document to reflect the current reality of the world, the current reality of Nigeria. All right. Let me bring you back. I like that you've said a mouthful. Let's backtrack a bit. You told me about the fact that because your presidential candidate was part of some of the crafters of the manifesto in 1993, there's nothing wrong with doing it again in 2022. You're also trying to tell me in the same verse that maybe the APC is bereft of ideas or creativity, and so they're not even making any efforts to try to incorporate the problems of Nigeria today, which is 2022 as opposed to what happened in 1993. Are there similar things? Yes, maybe. But I mean, I'm just wondering because you're telling me right now that it's okay. Yes, we brought it because and then if this is anything to go by in 2015, your candidate brought us a presidential candidate. Who has been in power for almost eight years? What has he been able to do in that renewed hope that you made reference to that we can't say today as Nigerians that we have our hopes renewed? Again, I'm curious because your candidate has told the whole world that he was going to build on the games of President Buhari. What are those games? Educate us, please. That is by saying that the APC is bereft of ideas. That is not for us. Now, all we are saying is this. We are saying that what was contained in hope 1993 is still relevant today. Hope 1993 is talking about elevation of poverty. It's talking about employment opportunities. It's talking about secure environments. It was talking about ensuring that people are placed where they rightfully belong. That is the essence of hope 1993 and I think that the narrative has not really changed. Today as we speak, we are battling with the issue of security. Today we are battling with the issue of economy. We are battling with the issue of employment and so on and so forth. And the APC has realized that clearly that manifesto of 1993 is as relevant as ever. And we must not try to run away from the fact that Nigeria in the last 30 years we have actually been rolling. We have not actually tried to apparently get it right. Yes, when the current government came on board in 2015, we had a manifesto which was for a point agenda. We talked about security. We talked about education. We talked about employment and we talked about ensuring a stability of our nation. Yes, I tell you, if you look at the reality of what the current government had experienced in the last several years, you agree that the government had actually tried, compared to previous government. I'm yet to understand where they have tried because you keep telling me that the government has tried. The government has tried. Where have they tried? In what areas have they tried? Before, are you with me? Yes. Yes. Before the current government came on board in 2015, most part of the North Easts were under the full control of Boko Haram elements. That fact is there. But when this government came on board, the government was able to liberate all the local government and the state in the North Easts and they were able to suppress and even send the Boko Haram element outside the country. We only have a pocket of strikes, but we must understand one thing. A lot of insecurity is a global problem that challenges the world over. And Nigeria is actually experiencing the spillover of what is happening in other nations. And I tell you, the current government of APC Nigeria has done well to ensure that Nigeria remains one, to ensure that everybody can actually go to aka living well to have a pocket of crisis around there. I agree with you, but you must understand that this thing doesn't start in a day. It has been on for quite a while and the government has been able to tell this to some extent. And what is just there, of course, is our people needs to just encourage government, just to support government, just to give government ideas on how to tackle this. Because when government agents, particularly security agencies, are actually rooting the criminals at Nigerian press are not actually celebrating this. But when the military, the military strike, a guerrilla-like strike now, is to be blown out of proportion, that's a problem we are having. I tell you, the government has tried to ensure that the issue of its security is brought to its needs. And what government needs, of course, is when the current government is winding up, and that is where the renewal 2023 comes into play. And we have been informed to that document that all the loopholes will be blocked to ensure that the issue of insecurity is brought to an end as soon as possible. Okay, quickly, I just want to push in something that you said earlier on before we wrap things up. You talked about the fact that the APC are actually trying to get it right. And this is the seventh year we're about to handle, the APC is about to hand over to another government, whichever government will emerge in 2023. Why has the narrative not changed? Because you also talked about the fact that the narrative hasn't changed since 1993 and then of course in 2015, and here we are in 2022. If the narrative hasn't changed, does that not show failure on the part of the APC-led administration? Because if you come into power telling us that you want to change things for Nigerians, that's the change mantra that the APC came in with. And instead of things changing from bad to good, it seems like we're spiralling down into worse. Does that not show that the APC has failed? Again I ask, what is your candidate building on? Why should anybody vote for him in the first instance? And lastly, he spoke about the fact that he's going to deal with the economy. I did have a guest yesterday from the PDP who said that your manifesto seems like a horror movie. And the only part of it that seems to be walkable is where he talks about I think taxation. So, please help us understand why any Nigerian should vote for your candidate in closing. Thank you very much. Now, the thinking of APC leadership of course is this. In 2015, when the current government came on board, the world was facing a lot of challenges. And up to 2020, the whole world was facing that challenges and we need to give it to President Mamadou Bwari for being able to sustain this country, for being able to ensure that this country is one and to ensure that citizens and good loans and fundamentalists didn't take over this country. What give that to him? And that is infrastructure, it tries best. Now what I'm saying, I've never said this government are doing government fail. I'm saying that in the last 20 years, the current democratic experimentation we are having but we have one challenge or the other. And if the previous government, before 2015, had actually laid a very solid foundation economically, politically, socially, infrastructure-wise, we might not be in this mess. But this government had actually laid that foundation in which Ashwaibola metinwg was going to build on and that's what it's called, Renewd Oak. When they have Oak and President Mamadou Bwari, it's coming to give us a Renewd Oak. And I tell you one thing, everything, I mean, President Mamadou Bwari has laid the foundation now. What remains of course for the incoming government is to ensure that he built, I mean, he built on that foundation and which Ashwaibola metinwg was going to do. And I tell you this, he's a man that has been tested. He's a man that is experienced. He's a man that is trusted and he has not occupied an executive position before. He understands the nitty gritty of an executive position and he works of executive position until date. Lagos is still a road model in Nigeria because this is a man who will enjoy the view of his label in Lagos. And he wants to replicate safety in Nigeria to ensure that we have a sustained economic development, sustained growth, and to ensure that Nigeria return to its rightful place in the Committee of Nations. That is the essence of this Renewd Oak 2023 of, I mean, Ashwaibola metinwg. All right. Well, OK, well, Sharafa is a legal practitioner and a member of the All Progressive Congress here in Lagos State. Always a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so much for coming. Well, that's it tonight on the show. We will be back tomorrow again talking for development. Don't forget, if you have not collected your PVC, it's ready. 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