 All righty, it is 5.30 and we'll call the public works meeting to order. I'll start with roll call, all the person, Raimi. I'm here. All the rest. Here. All the person. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. And all the person, Decker is here, all the person, Salazar is excused. We'll start with the pleasure leaders. I'm the United States of America and it's good to follow for which he stands. Okay. I think we have a question. Yes, seriously. I am Dean Decker. All the person from District 6 and better of the public works meeting. District 10. District 8. Vice chair. Chuck Adams. City attorney. I'm Angela Raimi. District 5. Blackboard was Department of Public Works. North Nye. DPW Equipment Service Supervisor. Local State Street Department DPW. Trace. Jim and John. DPW Engineering. Trace is an old core company. Michael Callum. Call the company. Jordan Schiff. Wastewater Super 10. Joe Carlin. Parks Department. Public Works. Stacy Wesseljack. Administrative Clerk. Heather Burke. Business Manager. Public Works. David Bebal. Director of Public Works. All ready. Thank you everyone. Started with the approval of minutes from October 15, 2024. I move to approve. Second. Most of me in the second. Any discussion on those minutes? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Those are approved. Okay. Number six. Resolution number 157-23-24. Resolution authorizing a one-year loan of the Phoenix passenger ship. City of Sheboygan to the Wisconsin Maritime Museum. Director. Yes. Joe Carlin, our Parks and Forestry Superintendent has been working with this. I think we have, I think it's an awesome opportunity. So we have no problems with it. But Joe, if you want to provide some background or, and I believe Bob is here. And we do a visitor here tonight. So Kevin Cullen, Deputy Director with Wisconsin Maritime Museum actually contacted me after Bob had given me a heads up and I'll introduce him in just a second. But they are doing a year, a full year exhibit of Shipwreck Coast exhibit. And that was in your packet. Just kind of showing all the stating area in there. And the one thing that would really help that display is, I'm going to let Bob talk about this a little bit, but he had two shipwrecks on this community. And they were on showcase at the Land Community Center. So the request and then Bob, we would allow this is to loan this out. There is an agreement and it's insured. They will pick it up and be responsible from the time of pickup until the time returned. And it'll be on display and I think it'll be a pretty neat thing. One thing I really didn't know. She sent me a little letter today and another guy was going to make it to talk about it. But she did want to say we acknowledge the City of Shipwreck in partnership in the signature exhibit and we invite city officials to invent surrounding the opening of the exhibit for me. So there will be invitations out there. The Phoenix, I didn't know this, really important to the immigration story. Oh, that's very interesting. So I'm going to introduce Bob Melzer. And he's the one again that had the commission of those ships to be built and then donated them to the city. Bob. Many years ago, the D Land Park Center was built. I talked to the city development guy, Bob Peterson, I think it was at the time, and to enhance that facility, I commissioned two models to be built and put on display and give them to the city on the MRs. And they were built by a local model builder and they're wonderful models. They're museum models. And the Phoenix, a ship that sank here, or between here and Manitowoc, it's a historic ship site. And they just recently found the smokestack from that ship. So that's in particular why it is timely and why the museum would like to put it on display. So it's a wonderful model and it would be nice if the city would allow it to be shared with the museum for the period of time needed. I talked to the museum and I know the museum quite well and they're very responsible people. So I think it's a win-win. Any tool a model is called, the model builder would have another little model he could put in there so he just don't have an empty display case. Yeah. We can get brownie points with Manitowoc and the museum by doing this. Well, I think this is a great idea. I mean, it goes right along with the whole sanctuary thing. And I think this is a win, like you said, I think this is a win-win. This is great for the Maritime Museum and it's great for the promotion for people who up there and they'll see the ship that we're loading out to them. So I'm in full support of this. Go ahead, Angela. My only question is, is there a reason why I wouldn't? If there is, I can't figure it out. Okay. To care of it in the line of gravity. Okay, but it's not going to cost this. There's nothing. It seems like a no brainer to me. That's a good question. So when they, it's going up to Manitowoc. Is that group Ted? Is that going to go to another part of it after that? If everybody comes to see that, or this is just a one-time deal, and that's not going to be like a traveling situation. Full year at that setting. I'm in favor of that. It's a good idea. All right. Okay. Seconded. Any other discussion on that? All right. That is approved. Thank you very much. Go right ahead. Thank you for your attendance, Sarah. Okay. Number seven, resolution number 1592324, a resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into a contract with the time Peterson construction government for the construction of the Qantas Park Trail extent, authorizing an amendment to the 2024 budget to cover the contract costs. Director. Yeah. Since in Ryan's absence this evening, this was a project that was in the capital improvements. Black funds as well, as is indicated here. But time Peterson was the low bid on the project. We're looking for the committee's approval. This is the trail. This is an extension of the Qantas Park Trail where it ends. This will now bring it all the way to New Jersey Avenue. Right now it stops short. This will be a continuation along the trail. Correct. Those improvements as well as along. There's some sidewalk that is along Qantas Park Road. That gets improved with this. So there's other things in just the trail. It's going to really enhance that. Is it what is it a paved steps? Yeah. Okay. What's the promotion? I move to approve. Second. Second. Any other discussion? All in favor? I. Chair votes. I. That has approved also. Number eight resolution. Resolution number one and 61 23 more. Authorizing the purchasing agent to purchase. Issue a purchase order for two and 2023 packer trucks for the department of public works. Yes. These are two vehicles that were in the capital improvements budget for this year. We have written I as well here to answer any technical questions is. Rick in the motor vehicle supervisor. In terms of specifying your type of stuff. One's going to be a side loader truck, which would be for picking up the residential cans such as. There will be addition to our fleet. That is replacing a conventional or older double rear loader. And the other one will be a rear loader packer truck. So both of these are again, as I mentioned in the capital improvements budget. One is going to be funded through the recycling fees. So it doesn't hit necessarily impact them. We've been collecting recycling fee and that is being used as an enterprise. It's a separate force. Separate source of funding separate budget item. Therefore itself contained. So we're using proceeds from them. Cycling fee that. Collecting using the fund balance in there to purchase this truck. The rear end loading that basically was used in the parks. Well, or. I'm there with the drop off site. Okay. Familiar. Right. So there as well as we use it to pick up. Other things during bulky waste. If we do the community neighborhood cleanups, sometimes we'll, we'll bring that larger vehicle to throw larger bulky waste in. So it's used quite a bit in terms of that as well. But we have the, the units that. The dump. To the back. And then it tips them up in there. This, it will be able to doster. There's a, there's a temper on it. There it is. Yeah. So this was like a six yard. Not, not, we're not talking big, long, like roll offs or anything. Yeah. So this is the one that you've been using also for like other one ways and stuff like that too. Or is that a separate one? What are you guys using on that? We have a couple of. 2013's that we're using in alleys and something these two are primarily, we've got two, 2000. Your 2000 trucks that are primarily used for recycling, leaf collection and things like that. This is to replace one. One a year ago, we had to, we tried to get two of these and I'm finding one used one. We're usually searching for two used ones. I don't have to recall that. We were able to find one that's been working out well, but we could never find the second. So this is a new truck to continue. Any questions? Second. Second. We'll get approved. Okay. You've been made in a second. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Aye. That is approved. Yeah. All right. Now we go to number nine. 162, 2023, 24 resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials entered into a contract with a vintage and start company incorporated for the construction of the veterans Memorial Park, Peckleball and basketball courts and authorizing an amendment to the 2024 budget to cover the contract costs. Good Mr. Chairman. Project that was part of the cab improvements program for 2024 and Joe is here. You talked a little bit more about the details, but it's basically going to be converting the existing tennis court area and making a pickleball and basketball court con in combination between this, that area. So it's going to be pretty much min off the old tennis courts taking that area. The fence gets operated and Joe, if you want to provide some more details, you might even. Yeah. This park has been without a basketball court for quite a while. More years than I want to mention, but David said it's based on the, it was a two court tennis court. So it's basically that set him that that print. We, we updated Roosevelt tennis courts. We have two tennis courts there. We do have pickleball painting on them, but they're tennis courts. We deal with the need pickleball craze that the basketball court and being able to fit four pickleball courts in that, that area and bring a basketball back to that court area. Is what that space really needed. It's been in the capital funds for, I mean, capital improvements for probably four or five years, at least so building up to this. And we think it's really going to add. I mean, Beds Park is, is rented during the summer every Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Most Fridays, but very well used park. And we'll add to the activities there along with newer playground equipment that's already there, beautiful shelter, bathrooms. I will say that for my perspective, I know that I went with the neighborhood association there. They were looking forward to something. They were there. They were kind of anxious to get something in with those tennis courts where they were that's kind of an unutilized area. The tennis courts themselves are kind of kind of a disrepair. And they really weren't used even before that. So this is the way I think this is a good thing. The one question I was, what is the lighting going to be that for that? That's going to have to be worked on. Okay. I don't have an answer for that one. That ought to be separate. That ought to be separate. Okay. Anyone else have questions? I move to approve. Second. Post is made. Seconded. Any other discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Sure. One side. That is approved. Okay. Now we'll go to number 10. 16. All signatures. 1535 joint sewage treatment agreement for the shaboy hygiene in order to authorize sanitary sewer service to approximately 77 acres of land and municipal boundaries at the Tom which is more commonly known as the core company generator plant. Yes, Mr. Chairman, this is a request and agreement that you have represented. This is our city attorney who has worked with their legal to work on this agreement. And I think it's something that we support. It's my understanding. I'm just facing some pending DNR permitting issues and currently it's not served by Sanitary Seward. So being a major employer in our area, I think this is a good thing for the area and long term solution as well for the environmental concerns. So I guess I'll leave it to you, Mr. Chairman, if you want to open it up or if you want to have Chuck provide further context to this that way. I did provide amendments that we're going to be doing and basically this has been an ongoing process. It represents Color Company, Color Generator on this and they're working with the entire regional area. So there's towns and villages in the region that are also involved in all this and so all of the little amendments that we need to make. But they're really not substantive and work with David a little bit on some of the amendments, which ones we're going to accept. So basically what you've got in front of you is what the agreement looked like before. And we are just eliminating a couple of phrases out of the agreement that are really not necessary as part of the amendment. Yeah, I think overall in concept this is we support this. I think when it's eventually there'll be some technical challenge and that is not necessarily an impediment to the agreement in this process that will be worked out in the future as well. But overall, this is a good thing. It's a very narrow agreement. Purposely worked out being narrow to just deal with this issue and not get into the various other issues throughout. So what right now, where does their sewer system go to now? If I could jump in there Mr. Chair and Stacey put this map up on the screen in case this is tougher. So at the very top left of the screen is the generator plant in the town of Mosul. They have some treatment on site and then the discharge from that goes to the road north of there. It's unnamed tributary. What they're proposing is to not necessarily renew that permit that they have with the DNR for treating. Connect to the town of Sheboygan's wastewater collection system. And so that my chicken scratch is hard to read. So this is the town of Sheboygan. And so, there are sources that are in there. But it does basically down to that bottom right to the town of Sheboygan's lift station that then uses a pressurized pipe, a forced main to the wastewater plot to join the city's collection system to the south. It flows by gravity there to Kentucky Avenue and then it's boosted again. So that's roughly the area looking at obviously the generator plant representatives. From a wastewater sewer, Kevin and I have to think about the consistent flow that could bring to our collections. And that's the wind itself. Really the flows that are in our daily flows. So volume wise, it's very minor. You know, obviously as a plant, it is something that we want to look at the nutrients that are part of their flows or even things that are part of the manufacturing processes. Based on a very low volumes. I don't think that there will be any concern at all. And even their manufacturing processes, they do some chemical respiration. So we really don't have any concerns from wastewater plants. So, like David alluded to, I think our part is the city and this is relatively minor. Obviously, it's more of the town of Sheboygan and town of Mosul, you know, making sure they're comfortable with more direct impacts to them. So, I don't know if you want to hear from them at all. This is the lines and everything else. The pump station. What problem? That's their problem. It's really not. Basically, we're just getting the finished product. We're just getting the finished product. We don't have to worry about any of that. Again, we might see just that tiniest of upticks in our questions in the cities. And then the wastewater plant. Very negligible. Do you have any? No, you don't. We first sat down with David. Over the technical stuff. That's the technical aspect. The super plan capacity. What our strength of our wastewater was. And from there, it kind of evolved into. To make this happen. So now we're just excited to. This project moving forward. Go ahead, Joe. The plant is larger. So everything that's going to be installed will take care of anything in the future that you'd ever have to have out there. You know, we've got, we just finished our second expansion over the last 12 years. We don't have a whole lot more room to grow. So any further expansion that we would have. It's not going to really increase what we would discharge. You know, our manufacturing process, obviously we do a lot of generators. The bulk of our water is sanitary water. We have the Lagoon system right now that treats that. We double treatment process from a painting process. But, you know, really it's an assembly operation out there. So it's really not going to increase any capacity in the future. We're just starting into a very small, like you said, unnamed. Tributary. So that's somewhat restrictive. Moving into the near future. So we've been in compliance, but this is a good opportunity for utilization of nearby ways for conveys system. And from an environmental perspective, this is a win for our environment. We're basically going to be going from to WPDS permits into cities, which has a more robust treatment process. Oh, thank you. I think this is a good thing for that. I think it's good for they don't help a large employer in our area. You know, healthy and strong and be able to keep the environment safe. So I'm in support of this. Can we just talk a little bit more about the environmental aspect? Yeah, I mean, I shared, so we have a WPDS permit, you know, so we have testing that we do all the time, right? I shared our DMRs with the city. And I say it's a very low strength wastewater. Primarily it's mostly made up of our sanitary water. I just rewatched Aaron Brockovich, so it's a little on top for me, so that's what I'm talking about. I'll just say also that, you know, once this is finalized, we would actually get an industrial permit. Exactly. I was just going to mention that the industrial science is an industrial permit. We have under Jordan's area, he has pre-treatment industrial, pre-treatment that monitors, tests it, and makes sure it's in compliance. So there's certain criteria that has to be met as well as with that. Yeah, so we would maintain our treatment. So we would need any, you know, limits. And Stacey, would you mind scrolling down to the second page of what I said? We currently treat the sewage from the coal plant itself, the main plant in coal, which probably has probably more of a chance of... I mean, the iron foundries. Well, they also have a pre-treatment system for their industrial side as well. And again, I know this is very hard to read. We could zoom in if people are interested, but this is a document provided by the plant just to show us as city staff. And what the current processes are, again, to the top of that page where it discharges currently to that unnamed tributary instead of the sand cell to the top of the town of Chicago. But I think it has more detailed questions. This was a helpful document for you guys to read. Cool. I'm interested in a report that we have to give to the DNR, and then they also do for the DNR. And so it shows the different parameters that they have to test for and what their levels are. So the DNR monitors very closely that we're standing in compliance with our permit. And they provided that to us to reassure us that environmentally it's in really good state. That's awesome. Thank you. What's the town's situation? How do they feel about this? Are they even involved? Or are we going around the town to get it done? Which town would be happy with what we're doing? The town of Sheboygan. Yeah. So we'll be connecting right to the town of Sheboygan Sanitary District 2, which is literally a mile south down Lakeshore Road, Labor Road. Right there is where? And again, they're in favor of that too. They are. They've been very supportive. I was going to say that. We finally do something for the town. So I also say the Tattle Mosul. Obviously they've been very supportive of this as well. They've been on board with this, you know, day once we started this. Having the discussions. Technically all of the town's villages and cities in the regional area have to sign up on it. I would also say that we've had discussion with the folks on these two. And it's been very well received in support. Good discussion. Any other questions? Okay. Looking for a motion? Go approve. Second. Okay. We need. Okay. I move. You want to read it? Yeah. I moved to amend the interim sanitary agreement to remove the clause as conditionally approved by the Sheboygan urbanized area sewer service area technical advisory committee pursuant to the 2000, the Sheboygan urbanized area sewer service plan. As conditionally approved by the Wisconsin department of natural resources by letter and from the second whereas clause and from paragraph two. Okay. Looking for a second on that. Second. Okay. Any discussion on the amendment? Okay. I move. The opposed chair. That is approved. Now we'll move back to the general. Any other discussion? All right. That is approved as amended. Thank you. Number 11. Resolution. Number one. Resolution. Resolution. resolution's. Number one. resolution. Chopra's signature, to issue a purchase order for a 2024 apartment diesel power walk behind concrete stop and accessories for the more carbon covered works. Yeah. Well, real quick, Rick's talking about, I guess the technical again, just was a piece of equipment we had in the workshop. basically our concrete saw. It's our main saw that we saw pavements for removal and replacement. Our current saw is a 2011 model and it's being less and less reliable and some of the safety features as well. So we're looking to replace it with this upgraded unit. I think we have a Husky bar currently. So it's really the same model just brand new. Any questions at all? I'm happy for safer saws. Okay, looking for motion. I moved to second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. I just want to say, since this is Ryan's last game, I want to say thank you to Ryan for all of your hard work for the city, for as a chair of public works and being a member of public works and is being even a citizen. Ryan's been a great help all along the line and I really appreciate all of the support of the city. We'll see you in the pickleball book, of course. Coming out of the old public committee. I see it is March 12th, 2024 and I'm looking for a motion to adjourn. Second. All in favor? Aye.