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Ay man, I got my guy here today, y'all Ay, he really don't need introduction If y'all really love music and been listening To what he been doing, man, on the scene I found it, man, he was standing behind the mic Wrapped with a blue bandana, I believe I don't know, I remember seeing it though I don't know if he walked out the store or something And came up and the mic just fell I don't know, but my boy man Big extra plug is in the building Yeah, sir, ay, what it is, what it is Big extra plug in the building Man, big extra plug, man You know, I'm the type of dude, man That when I see something special, man I try to gravitate to it, you know And I don't wait for everybody else, either You know what I'm saying, when I remember When I heard Erica Banks with my son He was like, check out daddy, I said Okay, I heard, I said, man Let me go on it, I hit her up Told her you're doing a great job I said, you gonna be special, just stay humble And she hit me back, thank you so much This was in the beginning See, when you jump out there in the beginning For anything happens And then I can hit back later on Like I did and say, hey girl, what's up Hey, what's up? Cause it's real And so when I heard you for the first time I told my son, you get that dude over It wasn't about a few weeks back, wasn't it About a month So you get that nigga to me, man Call that nigga, man, I need to talk to that cat, man Yeah, but you had other things going on But yeah, just get him A little bit, Mr. Maker No, you know, we here at Boss Talk Love to know your backstory Love to know who you are before the rap music As a child growing up Were you from siblings, mom, dad, all of that So, give us a little bit For sure, I'm from Pleasant Grove But I don't even like to jump in I'm from Dallas, Texas Cause when they come out of this I'm putting on for the whole Dallas, Texas That's awesome I'm from Dallas My pop scene from the country From Greenville or Commerce, Texas My mom, she from Houston So you raised with your mom and dad? Not together, I mean Part of it was my My dad and my mom But they were both involved Oh, when you got too bad Yeah, I got too bad, man My mom had to just She couldn't do it no more She couldn't knock you over the head no more The licks didn't hurt The whoopin's didn't hurt no more Like you look at mama Mama, you can't beat me no more It don't make no sense It wasn't even that It was just I was doing stuff no normal Nine year old was doing it At nine Like what? Give me an example Give me an example Trying to go into the stores With BB guns Trying to rob the BBs Yeah Having to sit down They looking at me like What you doing? So, yeah We was on that type of time But I always wonder about that When you see kids End up in those situations Is it Looking back now because you're older Do you think It was because of your environment Or do you think it because Your dad wasn't in the house with you Or you know Why did you end up Doing those things? Definitely my environment I mean my mom She had a lot of stuff going on So I was just outside And when you're outside You know it's your environment So what they had going Is what I wanted to have going So I don't want to say I was a follower But I was young Right So I didn't know I was just seeing What everybody was doing And at nine Were you Dibbling, dabbling in music At that time? No I never was Nothing about music Never ever What did you want to be At nine? I wanted to be a football player Okay Out of the way up until 18, 19, 20 So were you always like As a child Were you always like the Tallest, the biggest? Always Beat everybody up I got On my pop side He had six kids I'm the oldest I got a sister that's like Three months younger than me She's my same size I got a brother Well I got another sister She's like two years younger than this She's the same size I have a brother that's just starting at 18 He's the same size So it comes from The daddy side of the family Yeah my dad's six, eight, three hundred Some pounds Wow Yeah so I was supposed to go He was supposed to go to the NFL This nigga man He was focused on something And why do you think you didn't go? I went to school Went to Minnesota I was in college And I just And you got a scholarship For a football But I got home sick Got bored Started smoking Rest is history Rest is history It's always that Because you know somebody else Who came on here And whenever he Got home sick That was Austin And he went Got home sick And he He was like top notch In basketball Basketball Yeah And he came back home Got a girl pregnant And stuff like that And it is, you know And he liked it Me I said a lot of people go down I liked it The amount Is I don't really It's like But if you had to go back To That point in time When you were away What would you tell yourself Would you still do What you did And be where you are now Or would you I mean I wouldn't change Nothing Because if that wouldn't happen I wouldn't be right here Where I'm at right now Okay So you don't be like Oh I wish I was Stuck with football Because I knew I would Have been in the NFL Right now I listened to my dad Do that my whole life Man if I would have Did this I would have been here If I would have Did that happen I'm glad it happened Because now I'm here Now I can make something That's happening For the rest of my family You see what I like About that You know And what if I wish They tend to live in the past And not really pay attention To the future And where they're going Because if you keep looking Back you can never Look forward Exactly And the Bible said You can't look back Without running into something So you gotta You gotta keep your eye It's like A person who's shooting For a bull's eye You know When they're shooting For the target Trying to hit the mark Basically Once you miss the mark You don't concentrate On the mark you missed You just reach For another era Am I right? Yes Nobody cares About the mark you missed You know what I'm saying So But you know When you look at What you're bringing to the table now Versus what you were about to do In football or whatever God has a purpose In a plan for your life And it's bigger Than what you could even Ask or think And so you You walk it in purpose bro You see what I'm saying So that's the most important thing When I See I start talking like this That's what happened with Deriz Deshaun He thought it was dope After I started talking Spiritually But I believe in God bro So I don't ever put that To the side It's real with me You gotta have balance Even if you're doing Everything else you're doing You still need to reach over And get you some God I'ma tell you that That's some real talk You know what I'm saying So even though I Was cutting up I might be getting My gun one minute And getting my Bible the next But I always I had a balance man You sound just like My manager Because he's my manager But he really He's my uncle too That's dope When I first And he not even Like my real uncle Like he's married in That's dope So when I first met him I watched him go from Tope's gun That's right And to Preaching in front of people That's right So now it's just You know I'm I'm glad I got him And that's the dopeest Thing man So I'm sorry But so you Football You Smoke got back home What happened after that When you When you have everything In front of you And then you go somewhere And you just You're depressed When you When your whole family You done Got everybody built up Everybody pitched in You go And do whatever you do And then Mess it up Just disappoint everybody And nobody want to Look out for you And you get back So I got back Was it hard to face them When you came back Did you feel any guilt When you came back I didn't feel I really I really I just tried to Look past it I didn't really try to Dwell on it I did it I messed up I tried to go to Another school They didn't work out And then after a while Now you're 18 You ain't got no job You're not in school You gotta come For some money And That's what you Do Back in the street And that ain't And that ain't far Fetched when it Come down to So many people end up In there Well you gotta realize And that's what people Don't like to Brother It ain't It ain't odd to me That We face different situations Because I understand Where we came from So when I see it And I see some of the strategies That That God uses Versus what The devil tries to do To our young black men And our people I know already That That's gonna be If there's a will There's a way You know what I'm saying I don't see I see you winning I see God Using you to win So when you came home Yeah, you had some difficult times But it was really Just you going through Pressured moments So you could be better You see what I'm saying And that's the good thing Because if you don't What don't kill you Make it stronger So that's the good thing I see everything It's Especially like you said There's us being African American men It's the same cycle It's the same cycle It's the same Just what you Do After you take that air What you do with it After that is what Makes that cycle continue But do you have any kids? Yeah, I have one Boy girl Beautiful little boy Little boy But you see, you know We talk about cycles But at the same time You have to make it In your mind That I'm gonna break this cycle I understood Because when you start To have kids You're like I don't want my child To go through this But my son will It's gonna It might not be The same obstacle I went through But he gonna Come up on the obstacle Yeah, of course And that's That's gonna And that's dope that You realize that Because so many Many people try to Stir the narrative And you really can't You gotta let people Grow and go through What they go through Bunt their head That's the truth about it Are you Okay We're gonna get into the music Yeah, so when did you Discover the music? How old were you? That you could rap Yeah, how old were you? And who inspired you? You was your rapper In college? None of that I just started rapping Like last year Who inspired you? Where did it come from? I got a partner He done a bunch of songs with me But he He been rapping since He was like nine years old I didn't meet him until 2016 When I met him He was the only person I knew That was getting in trouble for Standing up on like The Blenchroom tables Acting like he Performing And we just This is when I got introduced to I'm smoking at this time So So you vibing Yeah, I'm smoking I'm chilling there I'll get the freestyle And then he like You got something I'm like man Whatever But I didn't really just Get serious until When that happened What is that? So like November two years ago Some stuff happened And I ended up getting locked up But I miss my son I miss his like His first real birthday Birthday Yeah, that's good Yeah, I missed Yeah, I mean it was It was good That's our lesson right there My mom got sick Grandma got sick It was like everything Was happening But they pulled through, right? Yeah, yeah Everybody pulled through Everybody was straight But it was just the fact that It was like what you doing? You got a little boy The only thing you care about You can't even see him On his birthday Everybody there But you got to sit through A video call That's good And that just really Missed me up I ain't gonna lie I went back and did some dirt But it wasn't what I was doing I wasn't hurting nobody I was just coming up On some change I did what I could do Got my family Out of the environment We was in And The rest of the little Bread I had Went towards this music stuff Man, yeah, man I missed about three of that boy's Birthdays back there That's why I say that's good Because that's what changed me He don't even know it But you know it It changed my life When you go through SUFs It'll change you It'll help you And it made it to where I was ready for you, right? You know, like That's the whole game Me and my wife have been married For 20 years You know, going on 20 years But the thing I can say is, man You go through things God is pruning you Getting you ready for something Even more greater That you don't even understand You're about to meet So those things that you went through Missing your son's birthday God's getting you ready for something else That's all it is And you ain't gonna miss You ain't gonna miss no more Yeah, you see what I'm saying You're gonna be out here See, I look like the same stuff You're saying I don't know why But every time I get locked up They put me in like I owe it here, but I don't know why But they do it every time I guess it's because I'm so big Oh, you're gonna have some medical problems But they were saying the same thing Man, you can't do something You can't do what you did To get it yourself in You can't think about it Just think about what you're gonna do When you get out But you got a lot of knowledge When you're in there with them Because one thing They always try to get you game I've heard so many stories I'm sitting there talking to y'all like this I'm 23 years old So already It's a real fly And it's sad to say But a lot of street knowledge Any knowledge when it comes to That type of stuff I learned In there Like my pops He ain't had me in no trap spot He ain't do nothing I stayed in Mesquite When I stayed with my pops Yeah In good area and stuff Yeah, I went But he was on that You know what I'm saying He always was But he made sure it was good That's it But now my mom She had me around that My pops ain't had me around that That's why a lot of times It's not some You know like Just like when I asked you I said it was an environment But then you have some people Who live in an environment And don't end up messing With all of that stuff You know what I mean Single mom I mean bad environment I mean some crazy circumstances But still don't end up In the streets Yeah, it's like I don't blame my mom But you know I don't blame her Because it was like That's what she had to be That's what she was making I'm ready That's why she was taking care Of me So I don't blame her for it But once that nine years old And she couldn't She couldn't balance That nine year old bad little boy And I had an extra I have a parent So she was like Well let me just go drop him off And it was probably I would have been dead I would have been dead Life in prison Something like that There's so many people Who might be watching Who going through children Nine year old watching Is cause you know These kids are on YouTube All day long Things pop up We're not over their shoulders To see what they're watching All the time We can't be So They could be thinking About going on the street They could be thinking about Anything And something that you say Resonate with that child Or that adult That makes them change Their way You know what I mean So Never say That My life is boring You're not the only one Going through what you Going through or what you Went through You know what I mean Your life is to help Somebody else And your story is dope And you can rap like hell So that's the most important Thing man For me You know what I'm saying You mentioned Rose Summer While it goes Strange fruits This is one of y'all's songs That y'all got How did y'all process that What was the whole gang Cause that's your road dog That's the nigga you mentioned You mentioned that nigga Like he's the nigga that You rock with What made y'all work on that song Together Let's talk about that Where did it come from I had a Just linked to Believe it or not You gonna hear a bunch of songs From this Every song There's never been an old I seen this beat Now you go You know Couple days You go right I'ma go right And then we're gonna come back Now I already have mine Wrote in the studio Or here I already have his Wrote And then we'll just be like Alright you on this song Straight up We so competitive that I be like I ain't big And he be like I ain't big And it go in Every song Every time Every time And there's so many songs That we got Yeah It got to the point where My label was like Straight up So you don't punch in You just basically go in there and write Yeah I write I write everything That's dope A lot of people say they punch in It's what these niggas do now It just It just depends Like Just a regular rap song I probably have it done in 30 minutes But like now My label want me to do stuff like Oh make a twerk song Last time I tried to make a twerk song Get to me like an hour and 30 minutes That's just because That's not my That's not your avenue But it's good to venture off into other zones And come out of your comfort zone I got a It's like a pop slays Hip hop song coming out on the 21st I did that In like 30 minutes Bro it's right 30 minutes So you say your label So you got signed It's a distribution deal Distribution deal The United States Okay that's dope That's dope That's good You still got You pretty much got all the leeway to do Things how you want to do They just I just got a marketing team I got a team basically That's good I'm still independent Yeah yeah yeah So would you ever sign? You got to be able to take care Of me and I and my family And I got to at least still be able to have At least 50% of what's supposed to be mine That's as far as masters Publishing At least give me 50% I don't want all the money I don't care about the money That money going to come Shows, merch That's how I'm going to come So I don't care about what you What advance you can give me I don't care about that I'm going to make my own bread Yeah So as long as I get to keep Majority of my masters and what not You can give me You can give me $300,000 I don't care about that I'm not going to flip that $300,000 That's good Because some people will be like No I want all my masters I want this, I want that I'm working together though That's a But some of these labels Try to get you though Some of these labels like That's really what right now It's kind of best to go Independent Through a distribution Because these labels trying to Give people like They want a majority of your masters They're trying to I couldn't I could have been signed for him But they wanted 65% of my masters I can't do nothing with them No, no I can't do nothing But at least you're smart enough To know See a lot of times The other people that were before You didn't have these You have something to look at See I don't know I don't know just because Like oh I've been in the music And I don't know I know because You haven't been there long I'm just I know numbers I know money That don't add up Yeah, but even then You hear so many bad stories About people who Who've been through all these bad deals Look how many bad deals For hip hop artists You don't hear this On country music And all these other They do this to black people I'm being real The minority These trumped up deals Where you just getting Screwed over Most times it's to our people But you got to think about Our people The ones who just Like Take it You offer me How many EMS They're not used to money They're not used to money Come on You know what it is Man they mom and them Man I will I will White constituencies They have ancestors And they have land And they have They've been doing it It's embedded Embedded in them And so When you see our Our people They're not leaving The children stuff Like our white constituency Brother So We have a lot of learning to do We have to change the way Our thinking is We got to stop having That stinking thinking You know what I'm saying We got to do more And look Look how you talking Like nigga You ain't forget over on me You ain't forget over on me You ain't forget over on me Out of tune I said I want to In for my son Ain't no telling what I need You That little million Okay You can come to my son With that But you don't have to come I'm telling what somebody's Going to take care of This nigga got the deepest voice We don't have on the damn show I'm serious We had no deeper voice And I had 477 episodes Nigga Yeah This nigga voice Deeper than you Man You be on it During the studio I know it Pretty now for sure So when you When you started doing the music And Because at first you said You didn't believe in yourself And stuff like that And your friend was like No You got some When was it that You heard yourself And you really started like Man I might I think I got some I really started taking music Seriously Like this same time Last year So like December Last year I was like You know what I got My family in the apartment Let me get everything Let me Let me go Get on this And so I think I had I wrote a couple songs I made a little EP It was just the fact that I don't know I guess this I posted on social media People was messing with it And so me going from having 10, 15 likes in a week To having 100 200 likes in a day Because I done made a song That's really what's kept me going Exactly And after I started getting Payed for it through streams And I'm like what I'm getting paid For moving my lips It's going down It's over with It made you go research To find out To make sure That you're doing this Correctly I didn't I was just dropping music For the longest Every two weeks I was just trying to drop Drop, drop, drop I didn't care about nothing else But now I know You know It's songs I got right now That I'm pretty sure Y'all have heard And love I can't do nothing with you So half point said that You're like When you You know the buildup And all that He feel like he was a big part Of putting the music Out there And how do you What do you think about that Half point If it wasn't for half point I probably wouldn't be Where I am right now Really? Straight up Did he even try Did he try to sign you? Yeah I knew that was coming Because he didn't get it So why you didn't sign with him? I mean he He kind of just like Asked me He was like He was like Man you got any deals on the table And I told him I was like Yeah I got a couple I gave him a rundown And he was like Well look Don't sign with this label For sure I was like And I said something I was like I'm really waiting on My top off chain I'm gonna try to see You know what I'm saying What I could do But he was like You already got too much on the table He was like Just you know That's dope That's good that he didn't say No I forget to have him You sign with me No let me tell you something That's good Man he a dope dude Dope dude Real genuine dude There's not many people like that That's right Once people get there Many people Change at least a little bit I don't Have half point Probably the same dude From high school That just I play the game with him So I know he play the game Me and him I don't play the game When he get that call to shoot a video That's what he gonna do Yeah He ain't no Yeah genuine person He is And I thank God That God brought him into my life Like I said When I didn't have We didn't have Hardly no subscribers And when I called him And connected with the people I think I called peace I said Give me that n***a number The peace be with him a lot And it was like And push a man I met push a man at the mall Before I started this God did that too Because I didn't even I ain't know He would top off Now he like I really rap I'm like N***a whatever You know I'm throat I'm just gonna talk That's what I do Because he don't even look at And we was just walking I said that girl looking at you N***a Then we brought her On the show too It was a girl that With us that day But then after that Anyway Fast forward to the half Paint When we reach out to him All of that whole team Little runny All of them They embrace boss talk They love the show man And I can pick up The phone and call Those guys And that's love bro Yeah You know And I know that's favor You know And that's how That's how this thing Is with me and you When I did finally connect with you I was looking at the genuineness of it And that it's authentic And that way I know I can love even more That's the most important thing People don't realize When you do something for me You don't even know Yeah Yeah N***a I'm gonna pull up N***a You gonna be in LA somewhere N***a You know what I'm saying I think he was in LA One while there wasn't he? Yeah I've been in LA Atlanta I've been trying to Get a lot going in man A lot of you Which one you like the most? Be honest Probably Atlanta N***a you at the Booty Club We actually We actually You didn't We were just in Atlanta He'd be in the studio Working Yeah But who you was In the studio with? I was at a Doppler Studios You've been there Killing them n****s don't you I think We went to Atlanta We was out there for Four days I was out there for four days I made I did two songs a day My label was like Man we ain't never had Nobody do that You was in there working Man we bring people out For four days And they make three songs In four days You was in straight focus bro I was just in there Knocking stuff out And that was the first time They ever had me just Writing in the studio Like oh here's a beat Write to it Wow I'm writing this to beats I ain't even like Just to show them That I could do it You could do it That was my first trip I felt like I had some Approved Yeah How hard is it to Write to a beat That you don't like It's one of those Al with 30 minutes But they flew out A producer that I actually Really like From Memphis Named Trash Bag Beats So any of my songs You're gonna hear Trash Trash Trash Bag Beats It's him What about him You like so much He got soul I'm like My pops He a real R&B old So I grew up on Eyes of the Brothers But then it could be You ain't listen to that music Ooh But then it got some books in there Saying Our soul Like The soul just connect He older though He old I'm 23 But It's beat to beat times I don't even like his beats It just be the samples He pick I go on his YouTube channel To be on there all day With that talent And that's love I like that I know I'm gonna give me some soul From this young guy So if you talk about soul Would there be a soul artist R&B artist that you would like To collaborate one day And if so who That's a good question I know you mentioned Eyes of the Brothers but I mean I probably wouldn't Just like Actually collab You're a sample But I definitely Simple I've done a lot I've done a lot I got so many songs Yeah I listen to them Oh no Because they got samples Yeah because they got samples Like some of those You gotta get them approved Some of those out But they won't Brat I'm talking about rags 200s of thousands For some of them Like the Mr. Trouble ones Yeah Oh man They probably gonna take that one Down in the minute Because if it didn't Ran up so much numbers They probably Try to sue for that That'll go hard Yeah my label They won't even let me Test the money for that They won't It's just sitting on my account Yeah because they Gonna try to sue for it But whenever they try to sue They just wanna be able To give it right back to them I look We ain't even touched it Before we signed them Wow But I see some good Like just thinking about What you're saying Where that is concerned Because in my mind at first When you said it I'm like so why even Mess with it If you know that It's going But then it's building you It's putting eyes on you It's making people see Man I've been telling Before the For the labels Anything was hitting me up I was telling my manager I don't care about this Money right now I care about building Because that money is gonna come That's right As long as I can stay And flow right now That money is gonna come It's gonna come You can't It's too much money In the world for it not to come That's right You know what I'm saying So all I care about right now Is building relationships And building my platform But I love what I love that But I've met so many people In the music industry Especially when they're Just starting up That they're like They care about the money Because of that man I got bills to pay Now I got people to feed Now So I need the money now You know what I mean? I mean that's understood I mean you gotta You gotta You gotta invest in yourself though You gotta figure something out And that's where A lot of people that actually Be good at music And they're messing They stuff up Because they Are here trying to do this To get this money for the studio time That it doesn't mess They stuff up They ex the plug How did you come up with that? I was gonna ask that Ask that question But I'm like Okay but he's big He might be the plug No You gotta He's gonna get that question I'm gonna ask that question I get it a lot I'm big My name's over the X Okay And Around the time I was the plug But I've been trying to get The plug taken out for the long No leave it alone man Yeah they telling me Leave it alone man Yeah it's not It's unique It's very unique And that's part of the reason I wanted to do it that night Yeah No but it could be You the plug for the music And a different kind of music in He's like nah this guy That's part of the reason I went to jail that night In Irvine He saw my bling And my car And he was like Man what you do I told him I was a rapper Asked me what my rap name was I told him big ex the plug He said Oh I know what you do He said that It went live after that Wow I had my gun That was in my name I had a little bit of weed And They ran with A lot for care Yeah Wow But you We gonna be alright Yeah the guns I mean they might take me I might have to take some classes Or something for the little weed But Ain't nothing to a giant do But don't what do you have On there a certain amount That can't mess with you or something No I just believe in I believe in God I don't even think about that stuff Like y'all do It was the fact that I had Cause I mean he broke it down To me made sense I had Whether I had a Could have been a guard splitter Any type of As long as you had the gun And that at the same time Yeah it is If I just had the gun And my car smelled like weed I was good It was the fact that I still had Some type of prayer for me I understand He did the job Yeah You got a good attitude about it I'd have been mad as hell Not going to jail tonight I mean when I mean Now if I was still I ain't gonna lie If I was still broke I'd have been mad I'd have been mad I was like man My last couple of hours I ain't Man I wasn't tripping like that No I wasn't tripping Feeling like Dennis How was the process of that Man It looked fun It really was just I don't know if y'all think I'm making these songs It just be fireworks in the studio It just be normal Like I linked up with You ever heard of Radio Raheem Yeah that's my boy That's why That's my boy That's the studio I got to Never satisfy the studio That's my guy That's why I record all my music I've been rocking out for a long time Telling you many He gon' tell you man That's a good dude Before all this Yeah not for sure We just At the airport all the time We got stuff where we was at the airport I'm like I'm going over here You remember Radio Raheem He's like I'm going over here We always just see each other But yeah that's That's the studio I got to LinkedIn with the engine They in dialogue First time I ever went It was like 3 o'clock in the morning The mother of my child Her cousin He called me up one day He was like man I need you all to come Perform in the cell I'm like all right bitch I pull up He's drunk He's like man They're performing south But I want to take you to the studio He took me to the studio It's like 3 o'clock in the morning I seen every This is my first time Being in the real studio This is my first time Not being in somebody's closet So I play some of my music We linked up He was like man Come back whenever I came back the next day I made strange fruits And we made another song Called COVID-19 Me and Rogue Okay So when I came back Like a week later I made Strange fruits went crazy So I had to go and get Like a service pack For strange fruits When I went and got the service pack Payed $60 for an hour For him to give me the service pack And an hour studio time And I made it feelin' like dinner Rest history Yeah Rest history You know what I'm saying It's over man Like I see you doing big things Bruh Like huge things Like I'm surprised You know Rick, Ross, Puff, Dad and them They see it man Ain't no way they don't see it bruh I mean It's a couple of people on this Why they been reset Powwow reset Yeah Who's the biggest person That reached out that surprised you? I mean take he freestyle No Powwow We've heard so many stories That people say that Like this person called And they said their name And they hung up on them Because it's like Nah they playing They playing It ain't that person type of thing Yeah I got DM'd by J Prince Jr Oh yeah Yeah that was crazy That was crazy I didn't believe that But he Yeah That's dope I mean when he got out I was like Welcome home He was like appreciate you I asked him Look what I gotta do Is be monetized What is that He said just keep doing what you're doing Have you met him in person yet? I haven't met him in person But just that That's motivation Yeah That's motivation Let's show that you're on the right track That's right Big step Yes sir What's up with that Man I'm just A big dude And if you mess with me You get stepped on It's all just selfish I'm not no You know I'm not no You gotta think too much Ain't nothing about me Yeah but I'm just thinking The songs So your songs are very Self-explanatory Yeah it's Every song is Either something I don't Be It's also It's just be easy To talk about big eggs Big step And I'm a big egg Saying I done Step on numerous people So let's make a song about it So whenever you make a song Is it Something that you're going through At that moment in time Cause like somebody play a beat And because Something you just Just happened You'd be like Okay let me put it on paper Or it's something old Well so like right now I mean I'm not doing that Right now to get money I ain't doing no dirt So it's I can't really talk about What I'm doing now So I talk about You reach back in your bag Yeah I gotta talk about What I did before I miss my son's birthday He That sound good to everybody I know after a while It's finna get to the point where Cause I'm tired of hearing it I don't know how y'all ain't tired I'm tired of hearing about Big eggs shooting at people Stepping on people See I know it's just about To ask that question Because Negativity Cells in this world So you know And a lot of people You know they want to Put some positive But when you put a positive It's like You don't get As much ratings Or as much streams Or whatever So how do you battle that And are you ever going to do More positive stuff I mean I'm I'm definitely transitioning Right now to just talking about Just having a better life You know When you having more You tend to You can't I heard Key Glock say one time At an interview I never satisfied He was like Man I got Too much money now I can't talk about What I used to do That's not me no more If y'all want to hear about somebody That's struggling That's still shooting That's still arriving Then you go listen to this dude But if you want to hear about a nigga Getting money Excuse me But if you want to hear about somebody That's getting money And that's really having it And that's talking about I just went about this chain And this chain The same week And this show And you know what I'm saying That's what I'm ready to talk about Right I'm ready to be talking about How I'm going up Because That's when You find out You know what I'm saying You find that That's when people are going to start hating I think you just need to stick with What you feel inside Yeah that too Be true to yourself You know because I don't know It's just something about that connection With that That I think is going to resonate With people well So It's like after I don't know Because I don't like I hate being repetitive And I feel like All these songs I just be repetitive But people look at numbers though Yeah I'm just making this I'm saying the same stuff That I'm pretty sure you have The people come on your show You know what I'm saying I'm saying the same stuff I'm just groove you with it You know what I'm saying I mix more stuff with it Your style is different Yeah that's really it And my voice is deeper Yeah Yeah Go hard though I ain't really doing too much different I don't like that I don't like Because I feel like I can't separate myself So much more But I'm kind of Closed into this box So I got to talk about this But you have to gradually Get into because first You have to get everybody's Eyes on you Everybody fall in love with you And then You can't just turn around And just change all of a sudden You have to like That's what I was wondering I'm like How can you put a little bit Of it in your songs Currently and mix it So you gradually you know Well I mean I like Dropping January the 24th So I think we're gonna see A little bit of that in there Cause like I said This is a mixture of pop Hip hop I ain't really talking about A lot of other stuff I actually like the song so Is that your favorite song That you've ever done No no What's your favorite song It's called It'll probably be a song called New Day or Primetime And either one of them now Primetime And why are they your favorite songs What's up with Primetime And you're gonna live for it Bro that's the name of my new channel It's called Primetime It's called Boss Talk 101 Primetime I need that primetime I bet it's where I'm playing for you It might be a little Send it to him so he can hear it We wanna hear it We don't have to put it out If you don't want us to put it out We ain't gonna put it out Send it to him But you know the thing is man Yeah, we definitely If you do us an intro or whatever We gonna play the hell Every episode And so many people don't even I did How many did I do I did 14 million streams In one month from this channel Yeah Overall when you look at Worldstar, Vlad According to the numbers that was researched In one month we did that We hit our stream when we were viral But everybody heard my intro song You see what I'm saying Think about that for a minute I'm trying to airdrop it I don't know Your phone Where's my phone I got a couple of men I said somebody Yeah, I know You say Derris is my phone No No, who the hell is Derris He outside He ain't even here I don't know where Where's my phone at I probably still should have sent it to him Derris would have got that one Been happy as hell He would have been tapped in for sure And what's the song that you play Cause our son told us about a song That went so hard that you dropped on Half-Paint Half-Paint played it What song was that It's a new day That's the one I just told you That was one of my favorites Yeah, man See everybody airdropped stuff now That's all everybody do Airdropped and FaceTime That's it I'll be so tired of both of these I'm an android person I don't do the iPhone thing If I could I would go back to I could call the android now I'm beyond in the blocks Man, it's that serious, man It's like it's an iPhone is the thing Like if you don't have an iPhone It's like you're not doing it If you get caught with a brand new pair of J's On an android They gonna talk about you No They probably been talking about me I get excused Cause I'm old Cause you're old Yeah, once you're a certain age Or you look a certain age You get a pair Yeah But I got two iPhones And an android Yeah, they definitely They probably think you sell them dope They probably think you sell them dope This world is messed up, bro You can blame my generation No What's the top three artists of all time Dead or alive Any genre Any genre All time Top three Number one Number one I'm gonna have to say LeWayne LeWayne I have to say LeWayne I grew up on that dude All three of you niggas say LeWayne They're shaking their head like I know my son love LeWayne My momma love LeWayne And that's your number one number one That's my number one Of all time All time Up and down Better than Jay-Z, y'all love I never listen to them Never listen to Jay-Z Any genre You never listen to Jay-Z Is Rap the only genre you listen to You don't like no pop or no body I mean Hold on, he said he never listen to them niggas Man, this thing could go up for LeWayne on down Damn My, my, my, my, my, my I'm just kidding That's cool Don't let me explain I want you to give me your top three Of all time from your heart, bro I got you I'm going off of what I grew up on Okay Number two LeWayne Oh, you had to put the eyes of the brothers as one Okay Oh, you changed Genres You said all genres Right, right, right So who's number one? LeWayne Okay, number two is I was saying Can you put the eyes of the brothers as one? No Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah All in one The group Man This is where it always gets harder It always gets harder Number three Uh I'm going to have to Call me, sign with what you want I'm going to go with a bun, man Hey Oh That's nice I can read your mind, babe Out of all I almost did it I'll do it So do you Can you sing? Do you The Rod Wave The Rod Wave The Rod Wave Now that's my boy though I don't get me wrong Rod Wave D'Reo The Son Maree T-Rail T-Rail, D-Boy I can show you my playlist right now It's all Rod Wave You like the Rod Wave? Yeah, man We just be It's like what he be talking about I'm going for it I'm going for it Cause that D-Boy that you have I just keep feeling like You can sing With those D-Boys I can keep I can sing All my sisters can sing I can carry it I don't think I can sing But Carl Crawford said that That Rod Wave I had it before I had it before Carl was saying that Rod Wave the other night Like they millionaires They sing about that pain, boy Yeah, yeah Rod Wave Rod Wave Crazy Everybody think he a crybaby They don't like I'll be listening to them Yeah My partner They hate when they get into Carl and me Cause he going to play They don't play the show Before Lil Wayne Before anybody Man, I'm liable to get in my phone Don't let the Bluetooth connect Cause this is going to start playing Who was the number three? I'm slipping Number three, Avon Avon, yeah, yeah, yeah Okay, so yeah Lil Wayne Eyes of Brothers and Avon I had to say that, man Thank you for that So How can people get a hold To you if they looking for you If they trying to reach out to you Everything at Big Ex to plug Twitter, Instagram Facebook If you trying to get a feature Any of that Big Ex to plug at yahoo.com Everything, Big Ex to plug, man Tap in Are you active on Twitter? You know See hard in your heart If I get a notification I go retweet I go hard But I ain't I'm just going in Every day That don't make sense to me But a lot of people Be on there doing stuff They do I don't get I made a sandwich It was good Do you want to get into some acting? Oh, definitely I'm a man Once I get there I'll never be broke They done already messed up I'll never be broke again They shouldn't open the door They cracked it Let you see what was inside It's on It's on Cause I'm a hustler So you done Like now You done gave me A legal path of hustling Man, I'm finna start Kimmel is Man Everything Man, this finna be my year This my year That's the funny thing I always wonder why A lot of these people You know Who be on the streets hustling And stuff like that Why don't they turn that Illegal hustle Into a legal hustle I mean, some of them do They just It be too late By the time They just want to make it legal Or they just don't know how to Oh, yeah Or they just like fast money Some people don't want to invest Their money into their business And have to wait for them When they come back Some day they like fast money And some people Some people do it Some people do it And still be Still in the streets Yeah So how can I weigh this word This life thing is something else It hit you And dead in your full head And be like, nigga, come on with it That's why life do you And you is a foe Come on with it Come on with it How long did you send? It's three It's three Do you want more? It's not right now Right now Once I'm So I'm nice And wealthy, yeah Yeah Okay, then you'll have about 10 You'll have about 10 Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Hey, man I think we did We did it We did anything else you got For my guy here Big X to plug No, not right now You wore him out See, that's why This is 16 the next time, though We definitely get it No, for sure, for sure For sure That was the most important part For me I didn't want to get in here And do myself Because you're all the first People that I've ever explored I'm always there So, you know, because we're the only people The first people that I've asked So that means that if you have Any other interview You need to come back here First before you go to Anybody else and do a 16 No, for sure You can come back tomorrow I told you I don't even do interviews I put a whole hold on interviews Really? The only reason I even did this Was because before You had been reached out And for two Like a lot of people When I say boss talk When I want it You should do that You should do that Man, go on with it Man, come we good people We're right Do you watch any of our shows? I watched them once Probably like a couple days ago I saw them once I got to go on there What did you think? What did you think? I mean, if I would have seen them on half I probably would have been a lot Like a lot of them Really I don't really know I don't really know Some of the people Yeah, yeah, type of deal Well, you know, I probably The only one got I don't know if you heard Of Prophecy Films He's a And he's right over here In Pleasant Grove, too Yeah, he does videos Anything in the music industry Never heard of I don't I just found out Who Coach Drake was I don't even know Who? Coach Coach who? Coach Drake I don't know Coach Drake I'm not on it like that Some big dude from the Grove He's just a good source Do I need to get him on here? Definitely I definitely think you should Coach Drake See, I don't know you Coach Drake His voice might be deep in the mind I'm lame I'm a lame dude over here I don't know everybody like that But I done had some good Guests on this thing, man My boy Shout out to Faze On Love To come through And he on Vlad this week That's who my manager is What he say? My manager said Yeah, man, you're going to be on Boss Talk, man, they just had Faze On Love I said, man, you just showed How old you are Right there That's gonna be weird, man But he did a good job, man And like I said All of the guests We had Carl Crawford We had KLC We had We got Taylor and him This weekend, man It's going down, man This year is going to be great I know God is He's going to continue to Bless us for our second year We got a Boss Talk podcast 101 Prime Time There's a whole other channel That's going to be a dope look You're going to see it So y'all need to go and check it out Go to YouTube And look up Boss Talk Podcast 101 Prime Time So you don't miss out on any Of the new stuff that we're putting over there Because we're not putting Anything that's on Boss Talk On Prime Time So y'all need to be on both There you go, man You're going to love it, man The movement is going to be dope, right? Yes, sir You won't see us over there much, either But we got people that's going to be over there Killing it And we're going to support them all the way Yes So it's all about putting people on, right? No, for sure So we got to put everybody on That's what I pulled up in this game I'm like, oh, I can do it Two or three of them Get everybody on different cities I think that's why The people that surround me Miss with me so tough Because that's all I talk about Is how I'm friend of What we friend of do Yeah You can ask him Man, I've been talking about It's going down Man, it's the year So anytime you're doing anything And you want us to try to put eyes on it You got us as a source, for sure For sure Anything you need, we here for you Once we get you, we got you Yes, sir Have time to tell you that We got you Once we get you And I call and get you Hell, you better not answer I might say anything You're like, that dude crazy Yeah, I say some stuff That I just keep it real I don't fake and shake What you see is what you get So if I say it, it's just coming from a place where That's what that nigga really mean I mean, he ain't had no harm behind it No, no I'm trying to figure out a way to make it To where we can make it to the next level That's it, man So we love you, bro Big X to plug I love you, too You always come on Boss Talk 101 What a boss talk, man For sure Check it, man It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 And we out