 telling me. Oh no! Trying to get to Devon Hester, he's in a car. We're trying to see if we can get him on because I would freak out if I ever got to talk to him. But I mean year number two passed up for the Hall of Fame. It makes no sense. The Hall of Fame, respectfully, with love, what are we doing? 20 career total touchdowns, most of all time. I knew in 2006 after that first touchdown against, I think it was the Packers. If I remember correctly, it was like an 84 yarder. He should have been, you know, leave this up there. I need to read through that. Can we put that up there again? He should have been in the Hall of Fame after that, okay? What he did, that Bears, Rex Grossman, Jake Cutler, not much to watch or be excited about. I'm a Chicago girl, born, bred, raised. 14 career punt returns most all time. Two kickoff return touchdowns in one game, most tied for most all time. And all those punt return yards, third all time. The Hall of Fame is supposed to be the best players from all the positions in the NFL. There are kickers in the NFL. Special teams is part of it. And I wouldn't, this is no shade to Cutler. Well, you know how I feel about Cutler on this show. No shade to him or a sexy Rexy, but you put him on another offense with another quarterback. Maybe those receiving numbers, those receiving situation is a little bit different from Mr. Hester. I want to talk to him about that. I want to talk to him about Tyree Kill, his son, things he does in the community, what he thinks about this year's Chicago Bears, all of that and more. And hopefully we get him after this. If not, you're going to see a nice little tap dance by Kev. My favorite when he's looking at the scoreboard, there's so many plays where he turns around and starts waving. He had it all going on. He revolutionized the game, a game changer, and gave me a young gal from the Northwest side of Chicago, whose parents were immigrants from Poland, didn't even know anything about American football. He gave me something to get on my couch and jump up and down about every Sunday after noon. Oh my goodness. I'm so excited to welcome our next guest, 11 year NFL veteran, four Pro Bowls, three All Pros, future Hall of Famer, the greatest punt and kicker turner in the history of the NFL in an absolute legend. Hi, Devin Hester. How you doing? Pretty good. I hope all is well with you guys. Yes, I'm so great. I'm so glad to talk to you and know you're in your car. Thank you for trying to make all of this happen. I love senior highlights and we're going to dig into some of those in a bit. We'll talk some bears. But first, we're going to talk about the Hall of Fame situation. That's fine. But somebody who's going to get into the Hall of Fame is your son, okay? Your son, Drayton, aka ankle bully. He will be in Canton with some of these highlights. Look at these. Take me through some of these. Oh, okay. That was the game last week. He played against a part one team called Mopaka. And that was the game last week. Pretty much like the first game of the season for those guys coming out for our lead, which is Florida League. Well, amazing. He is so incredible. I saw Roddy White was commenting. There were like a thousand likes or more than that, even on this video. He is crushing it out there like father like son, of course. And I want to talk about some of some issues, but I can't, you know, the pain it causes me as a Chicago girl that you're not in the Hall of Fame. We can't move past it. I can't move past it. What are your thoughts today? You know, I talked to a lot of veteran guys, a lot of guys that's in the Hall of Fame and they're like, you know, keep your head up. Don't be don't get so frustrated. Because the minute you get that call, it's going to feel like it was a first ballot, man. You're just going to be so relieved, man. You know, we all know that it's bound to happen. You know, it's just a matter of time with me. And you know, I just got to stay positive. Don't think negative about the situation. It's out of my control to be honest with you. But at the end of the day, we all know as football analysts and as great players that I should be in by now, but the time will come. And you will get in. Is there a reason that you've thought of, you know, we can look at your resume here. Is there something that like, if you were to answer the question, why aren't you in like, why aren't you in these two years? What's the reason? I think it's from just talking to the high guys above that no more than anybody about the whole of the fast situation is for me, they was pretty much saying this is a hard, the hardest thing for those guys to evaluate. First off, just special team wise is what's hindering the situation. They just don't know how to quote unquote, figure out how special team will play a part in the whole of fact. I do know that when they do pick five guys each year, the last two years, I was the sixth guy to get cut. So I was the last of the crop, two years in a row to get cut. And it's just, it's one of them unique situation where I'm listed as a special team guy and a returner. So it's so hard right now for those guys to figure this out of how to get a special team guy now, but they know that sooner or later I will be in. Wow. See, I hear that and just as a fan of yours, I'm thinking, okay, well, kickers are in there. Ray Guy is in there. Why not a return specialist? You're being docked because you changed the game and there was nobody like you before you or after you. It doesn't make any sense to me. It doesn't, it doesn't at all, you know, and I didn't get frustrated. The first year, the second year, you know, it was, I was kind of used to the situation and the situation that I was in and it didn't hurt as bad the second year. But first year I did cry. I'm going to be honest with you. I was very upset because as a player, you know, I mean, not just looking at special team wise, but what I did to the game and how I changed the game, you know what I mean from the aspect of special team wise. And unfortunately, I wasn't able to be a first ballot. That's something that I really wanted. You know what I mean? As my career got going and I started doing some things that never was done before, I looked at it as, you know, hopefully I can be a first ballot. And that's what I worked so hard for, for as a, as a player, my real key second year, third year on up to my last year in the league. I really, really wanted to be a first ballot. And unfortunately, it didn't pan out the way I wanted it to. But at the end of the day, you know, all things worked out for the good. And hopefully I'll be in soon. Oh my gosh. You cried after you didn't make it the first year and now you're just sort of settled and you're thinking positive. I am in the church of Devin Hester this morning. That is an incredible way to carry yourself and incredible. Honestly, an outlook on life. I was thinking this morning about this with how explosive, how dynamic you were out there on the field. There's so much more creativity in the NFL right now offensively. What does Devin Hester look like in a Debo Samuel-esque role in today's NFL? People that know me and the coaches that know me know that if I was in a system where I was playing with Patrick Mahomes or I was playing with the 49ers right now with offense scheme that those guys have that I will write, I will be right there with those guys when it comes down to performance and the way they play and where they're utilized. I think I fit that type of skill. I can always line up at running back. I play running back my whole high school, part one of the years, you know, so that's not a question of me running the ball. You can see in glimpse of that University of Miami, where I did both ways on the ball, offense, receiver, throwing the ball, even running the ball, catching the ball. So in offense like that, Scott's the limit for me, man. That's why I always tell my friends that, you know what I mean? I feel like I unachieved, you know what I mean? My current NFL because it's so much I could have did, but it wasn't shown. So the fact that you're saying you underachieved is crazy, but I look at a guy like Tyree Kill, a guy who looks up to you. Tyree Kill, you know, he was comparing himself to you back in 2016 before he even had a game. He before he even was out there for training camp and then you see what he was able to do, you know, with that speed. But I heard you're faster than Tyree, huh? You would have beat Tyree can embrace? Tyree, Tyree, I look at this more. He probably would have got me on the track. I think when it comes to me, when mayhem get compared, I think I can, my change of direction is faster than his. I would say his straight ahead, live speed, he probably has me. But on the field, change of direction, I think my moves and his moves, I don't lose speed. And sometimes he may lose, slow down a little bit, make it a move. But I think that's where I get him. When it comes to football, speed is my change of direction was something that I worked on and I craft, you know what I mean? Since I was young. So I was able to make moves and not lose speed. And that's where I feel like I can get him on the field. Now everybody talks about the iconic play by you, like not, you know, and you had a one, one really good receiving year. But I think too, I think if it wasn't Rexman, or a Grossman, Rexman, Rex Grossman, if it wasn't Cutler, if it was a different world, a different system, that your numbers would have been bigger and you would have made more of an impact in the receiving game. I think that's so true. But you're iconic. I mean, you know this is nothing I'm new telling you. Everybody always, of course, talks about what happened against Indy, the Super Bowl. It's never happened since it never happened before. Do you have a favorite play though? I'm sure you're sick of seeing that one. What's your hollow, fame worthy play, like your favorite thing you ever did out there on the field? If I had to pick one, of course it would be Indy. But I always say that my favorite moment was when we played Arizona, Arizona car, and it's my rookie year. Oh, yeah. And I believe it was down, it was down like 20 plus. There you go. Talk me through this. It was down like 20. So this was a game where, you know what I mean, our defense playing lights out the whole year. And pretty much our defense was carrying our team. Well, especially team, I had a couple of returns before this game. And we just couldn't get nothing going on the offense. Arizona jumped out on us like 20 son zipping the hat, 20 son, like 24, two or 24, three and a half time. And we found the way it's found the way to come back and they put up like, kind of put the game in reach and then for it to come down to this situation where I had the opportunity to get my hands on the ball and take the point back to put up, give us the lead to win this game. And I think that right there really solidified the type of player I was. Yeah, there's that one. There's your return. There's your return against the Giants was my favorite. I just love that the JP Lee kick. I was just like, Oh my God, there's so many plays. I love your first touchdown 2006 up against the Packers. I know them all. But now the NFL is different. It's changed a little bit. So, you know, not that there ever would be another you anyway, but the rule changes are making sure that there's no more Devin Hester out there. There's a new rule that you can signal for a fair catch anywhere inside the 25 yards and the ball will be placed at the 25 yard line. What's wrong with the current NFL? I mean, I disagree with it because then now you take players like me out of the game. Um, does it benefit me in the selfish way? Yes, because then now you could possibly find the next Devin Hester that that that takes over the return game. Um, but as as a player of myself, like I don't want a kid that comes around with that the type of talent that I have to be shorter playing being the opportunity playing NFL because they're taking the rules, they're taking the kicks in the outside of the league. One last one for you quick. We're running up against the clock and we thank you, Devin Hester. I'm going to ask you these Chicago Bears. You got Justin Fields. You got DJ Moore. You are an absolute legend that 2023 Bears will dot, dot, dot finish the sentence. Make it to the playoffs. Why? How? What? They will, I think they will make it to the playoffs. Okay. That's all I needed from you. Devin Hester, if you were ever in LA, I would love to meet you in person and go through all of your plays. It would take us 20 hours, a future Hall of Famer, an icon, a legend. We'll see you guys next week. Have a good weekend, Devin Hester. Thank you.