 Good evening. I'd like to call the Thursday June 6th regularly scheduled Berlin Select Board meeting to order to my far left is Justin Lawrence Flo Smith to my right is Jeremy Hansen. I'm Brad Town and with us also is Dana Hadley Town Administrator Any additions or changes to the agenda Dana? I have a couple of additions We received today an application for work in the right-of-way that I'd like to add to the agenda I would like to add Discussion and possible appointment of a few committee members And I would like to delete the treasurer's report As she is on vacation Okay public comment Hearing none We'll skip to the hazard mitigation update Thank you So a few things one for match You're interested in getting some match dollars. So there should be a sign-in for this and you can utilize This meeting for that All right, there's a sign-in back there. I think so Second to that for the minutes. I'd like there to be I did send out a query to the planning team members I can read them off quickly. I can send you the list. I think I have Nobody said no so our planning team. It said I'd like the minutes to reflect Formal approval of that So You're a zoning administrator Tom rosemary Corrine Chief wolf Tim Tom badowski. Well, he's a zoning fire chief And we have an airport representative and the hospital representative And I will always send you their names and the school representative I contacted Her email was bouncing back and I left her voicemail. So I have not heard back Um, so that one's kind of in limbo at this point, but I can send you an updated list for the minutes Okay, so you'd like the board to do a motion to accept the the planning team was approved. Yes Okay Is that okay? Yep. Okay and then Uh for the updated hazards. So in 2011 It was really done in a rush following Irene And the hazards were and we can pass this out. I can read them off, but I'm sorry. That's okay Flash obviously all things related to flooding winter storm ice including ice storm high winds hurricane severe storms Sorry Eating me Earthquake forest and wildfire and so for this plan femur requires that Those be looked at again And if any if there's any inclusion or addition Then that gets formally mentioned as well and based on what's happened since 2011 And the state has your mitigation planning changes and recommendations Um, I propose that you keep the bolded in and remove the non-bolded And really the thought is What is the frequencies of these events impacting the town and then second to that What could the town do to actually mitigate those natural hazards earthquake? Obviously very unlikely And so are the the mitigation measures would be very difficult to do that So There is one addition that I have been adding since 2014 and that's extreme cold Based on some climate change data The the cold snaps are increasing for the region and they bring about not only some financial risk, but some risk to to health and safety as well And for the 2000 update of the state plan They they rate regional Risks for these and the updated hazards are in line with that Okay Question Paul for my benefit sure if you could just explain I think I know but I'm Want to make sure I'm thinking the right way Of what the process is as far as the planning team How it connects with you got how it connects with our new plan How do we get it approved that those steps is what I'd like to know So femur requires very elaborate explaining of how the planning process took place in this update In 2011 you had the town administrator and one representative from cvrpc, which Is unheard of now you can't get away with that. So I like to include essentially the same Swath of people you have a hospital you have an airport. So that's a little different than most towns But female likes to see a pretty rounded portrait of community input The surveys I can mention that too. So the planning team Is now going to be included on correspondences. They will have updates Those updates should be mentioned at each coming select board meeting and then captured in the minutes what those updates are And then the planning team will always have the opportunity to review and comment and add At will Once the plan is completed and the planning team has had an opportunity to review and comment Then there will be a submission to the state The state submission they will review it And they usually will return it to me with what femur calls a review tool So femur has all these checkboxes that have to be met the state reviews for those checkboxes being met And they normally kick it back and a few edits have to occur Once those edits happen I send it back to the state They say okay, it's good for send-off. They send it to femur femur reviews femur will either approve or kick back for additional edits And that's all done through the state You know as liaison and then it gets resubmitted or it may be not Whenever femur says okay, it comes back pending adoption. So they will they will approve it Pending local adoption. So once that stems happen, there's a final meeting to approve your mitigation plan You'll have a cover sheet on the draft that you know normal attestation of that the town adopts this Then it goes back to femur. It's really sealed and then you're good for five years So time period From the time it's submitted to the state To femur approval Can take up to a year VEM can kick it back within a month sometimes two months just depending And then femur can have that for And I've seen them have it for six months. So now we're at eight months And if there's additional edits and usually there is you know, my uh, sure Then you know that can kick into you know from from project duration It's usually about a year. So we started a month and a half ago So we're looking at probably Best case next may Okay, that's good. As you know, we Our plan expired well about a year ago actually. Yeah, I think it was the 18th of may That expired last year and we've been working with the state On the grant. Okay Which took some time. Yes I know so so time is of the essence we want to get that in as soon as possible because if something If there should be a major Disaster and you need public assistance. We have to have an approval. So So I realize that Right, and I realize this if if we did have a disaster Is a mechanism. Maybe we could absolutely we could go to get around that problem. Yes Yeah, yeah Okay A lot I just want to mention some of the information that I'm going to need moving forward Later, just you know, okay Actually, I talked to tim and I met or were corresponding before the meeting started. There's been Five declared disasters since 2011 for washington county And that's number two And then you see the dollars obligated to the county. So some of these were substantial 4 million 6 million 3 1 or almost 2 rather And 6 but Tim says no Public assistance was was received in the town since 2011 Sounds right. I was just a female for my female my ring Yeah, no, that's right. So I need to clear disaster post Irene Berlin was not damaged. Right. Okay. So good. Yeah, that says a lot for the work That was done in 2011. This is a successful mitigation Has there been any Residential property loss Since 2011 that you're aware of From a natural disaster from flooding flooding. Well, I'm sure there was some damage caused by flooding but nothing that was That we collected or reported. Okay, so not a significance. I get not a significant So you don't have residents coming to the town saying what can I do? Because there there's the buyout opportunity Okay. No. All right, great If there's time I would like if we could just to run through the second and third page quickly And if we have to follow up at a later time that they'll that's fine so In 2011 part of and what we're going to have to do for this plan is to name the mitigation actions What the town plans to do for mitigation in the next five-year planning cycle? So in this this Chart is what the 2011 plan stated You would do and part of the part of the requirements for the update is to provide a status on these action items And if no action has been taken that's fine. I just have to say that so Was and if we could go down the list and if we know great was the property on Muzzy Road purchased Great I have a suspicion about the second one, but review and adapt building codes so that new structures are earthquake resistant. No action And that's fine Install mobile home tie-downs And they have done elevation changes raised. I think I think they put pads down the oil tanks, didn't they? They did Yeah, and who the name of that park is? There's a couple, but it's um West west west west west the worst one when I worked with uvm on a mobile home resiliency plan and um So there was I I remember berlin being pretty high on the risk list River run was another river. Yes a lot of problems. Okay. Yeah, so With that then I then I would move to add Another action item or a mitigation measure is to include Mobile home resilience and there's plenty of resources to do that and it looks like they've done a lot already Um, who could give me a narrative on all that's been done. Tom. Tom. He would be very knowledgeable about that. All right Um West hill culverts was done Yeah Any I mean, I know the town's not going to go out and provide training But was any information from any agency or community partner Given to residents on on these issues the energy committee um Was active with that. Okay. Had Materials here that people could borrow such as the caulking down and efficiency per month also makes that that material available too. Okay And residents were notified that that opportunity was available. Yes through the town. Okay um Any electrical systems upgrade to building shelters? We're pretty generous here in Right since 2011 What did that generate with The school um had a bunch of bunch of renovations. Um, do you know if they changed the electrical system at all? Or if they redid the electric, I mean they they gutted the whole inside Since 2011 yeah, it was what three years ago Okay And I can just reach out to the facility person at the school and just get a synopsis um Any NFIP issues that you're aware of? NFIP is a natural flood insurance program. Yes, we did qualify without what what level was that for the um I'm embarrassed because I can't think right now, but tom is very knowledgeable about that and was instrumental in getting that So that many people could Made it necessary not necessary for them to have blood jumps Um, I think Is the community racism? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, Dan CRS means something else to me I'll check with tom on the second one too Right And again, I think that's tom question so that third one on the NFIP Happened that step, but I don't remember where they are anymore, but okay, those were definitely Okay I did the 2011 plan does have a comprehensive that has the dog river corridor plan in it So that's something we're not going to do that tonight. There's a lot of projects I will need You know moving forward just need an update on some of those projects. I then find I can work with tim and sure, okay Um, any alternative water supplies or dry hydrants in the south part of town? I can check with fire Yeah, well, we have the city water system now Since 2011 Okay, that's not in the south part of town. Okay. Yeah Are you toward river too? Oh that more there? Yeah um But the fire department does have several dry hydrants Okay I can check with the chief any wildfire pamphlets distributed anybody remembers That would be for fire chief too. Okay. Yeah fire department president. Yeah Okay, that's uh, that's it. I can follow up on the rest of those. Okay So If there's no questions moving forward, they're just going to be Period I'm going to keep updating the the planning team and I'll communicate with you for updates at Subsequent select board meetings to be captured in minutes. There is a community survey That's going to be made available. Yes and Well, Henry has it to give out now and we're going to send it with the tax bills Should we ever send a tax bill again after the school funding is done? Okay We will Just to approve the planning team Okay to approve the planning team that's presented a second promotion. Can you further discussion? All those in favor. Hi. All right motion carries Thank you All right Okay, okay. All right. Thank you very much appreciate it and I hope you all have a great night Hey, I appreciate you. Thank you very much Thanks Okay, yeah Okay Thank you All right, it's okay. Thank you Move to approve general fund accounts payable warrant number 19 g 24 with checks 19 136 through 19 160 In the amount of 118,299 dollars and 43 cents Also payroll warrant number 19-24 Prepare roll from may 12 2019 through may 25 2019 and the amount of 41,424 dollars and 46 cents Thank you for the discussion All those in favor Motion carries Bruins Center cemetery trustees Is there anyone here from the cemetery? No Payable question Okay the trans You got the exit seven parking right You have some boards that would like to sit up. Where's the where's a good spot? We don't walk folks probably in this area and I'll get out of your way So while they're doing that I guess I'm scupper rank with v trans and then we have tina bull Who's the project manager of berlin and then Over here. We have derrick. I just drew a complete blank on your name Derrick Henderson who's the project supervisor So I don't know if you were here flow. It's been almost a year of more than a year We came here and we presented on the berlin exit seven parking ride And at the time mr. Clark who we've talked to since then had some concerns We have since addressed those concerns using berms. I'll be studying the camera Um, and so basically we just wanted to come back. We've met with mr. Clark May early may April a long time ago. Yes time flies. Anyways, we met mr. Clark and you know, he's not obviously a Proponent or a fan of the project, but he was very satisfied with what we've done. So we just want to come back to you because your Direction was to work with him I do know that I am So I guess this is more of just a follow-up Just so you're aware of what's going on talking about what we did the changes and then um after this we're currently working on preliminary plans and When is construction? Clearing would be 20 probably 20 Yeah, so it's a little ways out. We're in the beginning stages Right So anyways Dennis so last time um, we had spoke there were we had a whole bunch of different alternatives that we had developed and Through that process. We ultimately came to this alternative here, which was the preferred alternative in both our original design and Through a discussion with me trans and you folks and mr. Clark We all Oh great We were able to get to this this design alternative Here that we that you're looking at this plan And One of the one of the things that we wanted to make sure was that we provided as much screening as we could to this private residence here Which is mr. Clark's home And so we as you can see here, we proposed landscaping all throughout this area here and There's contour lines shown here. I don't know if you can see but essentially what we tried to do to Within the limits of the area that we actually had to work with was lower the parking lot as much as possible And then raise the landscaping around the parking lot, which in combination would provide as much Screening as possible through elevation change and so we took the existing parking lot, which you can see outlined here And we've we've expanded it towards root 62 and in this direction here we've But what we've done by doing that is we've actually taken the grades and We've lowered this entire portion of the parking lot To the to the maximum extent possible while still being able to get this water to drain out into where it used to drain With the existing facility so that we wouldn't have to create a new new outfalls And so we did that and then here what you can see in this red line Is the is the property line that we had to work with we didn't want to go beyond that property line And so we took that remaining space that we had available and we created a a small berm Here the berm ends up being about two feet higher than the edge of the parking lot And then it slopes back down to meet the existing grade at the fence, which is on the property line So we couldn't make that berm any higher than two feet because then we wouldn't be able to grade it back down to meet the existing ground While still staying in the state property And so that's um, that's what we did there and then here what we did is Because of all of this excavation that we're doing to lower the parking lot We were able to take that excess material and place it here And actually raise this area as well This area is going to be raised around eight feet six to eight feet And we're putting trees in front of it here And this it doesn't necessarily screen The parking lot, but it will help to screen him from route 62 Which is it, you know, we felt would be at least an added benefit As well And so between the and then you can see here as well as the you know the bus shelter the bike rack The accessible parking here This is the bus turnaround. We do still Show the improvements we will be making here at this intersection as well So one of the things that we're doing is we're providing a do not block intersection Striping along with signage to help encourage people not to stop Directly in that intersection to help people that are trying to enter here and leave And we've also actually widened this intersection here In order to provide a right turn lane So that any vehicles that are turning left Can stay in this lane and allow vehicles that are headed towards the highway to still be able to go around The you know to bypass this one lane as it is today To give them that ability to be able to turn right and continue Down 62 towards the highway and finally you can see here We do have this exit out of the out of the parking right directly onto 62 Which we felt would further lower the amount of vehicles that are going to this intersection which To kind of reduce the congestion that we're holding there One of the things that we developed in order to show the screening Obviously, this is a little bit difficult to visualize. We're just seeing it on the plan And so what we did is we developed Some perspectives This perspective here is basically standing at the existing facility Right where that existing bus shelter is looking towards mr. Clark's house His house as you can see there's the roof line right there of his home In that image and then what we've done is we've overlaid our proposed parking right over that same exact image And so you can see here that is his roof line again there And here you can see this is that berm that I was talking about over on the side And this is the small berm that we're able to provide here Along with the evergreen trees that we would be planting here and here To to kind of screen this portion of the parking lot from his home You can see the lighting we're proposing is all cut off lighting So that the light does not go beyond the parking lot It kind of gets shot straight down into the pavement instead of out And so to kind of reduce the light pollution that would potentially be happening And you can see this is this is where that exit out of the facility onto 62 would be right right around in this area here But you can see that in this perspective you can see the parking lot does increase in length You know, so you got the existing pavement here But here it does go a little much further to increase the size of the parking lot facility In this other perspective so this perspective is taken from 62 Looking so one of the things that we we in order to create this on in time We did have to take some photos during the winter So that did make it tough, but The the benefit of taking the photos in the winter is you don't see any of the summer foliage And so this is kind of the worst-case scenario, right? So if if it's vegetated and screened in the winter in the summer It only gets better when the deciduous trees have their leaves And so this image even though This looks green. It's actually we just digit digitally edited the snow out of the image. So this is what you would see Under the worst-case scenario, but in the summer you this would be even polar This is standing on 62. So it's standing Standing here Looking in this direction And thank you You can see this is the Limit of the park the parking right here. This is where that bus turnaround is And they're at the far end over there is the proposed bus shelter and Mr. Clark's home Is is here You can see his roof line here and you can see it again in this image here down below At that point if you have any questions Nor concerns Be happy to answer them as going to say is a top picture a month ago I don't know if they want to be close to it. Close to it probably but We're familiar with the additional spaces that you have The existing facility Just to go back to this the existing facility had 76 spaces And the proposed facility has 112 that includes the accessible the five accessible parking spaces 112 112 yes There's also a bus shelter accommodations for bicycles and it's it's there's new lighting proposed throughout Currently the the lighting is not cut off lighting. So the lighting situation would actually be improved over what is out there today We are proposing some some swales to help with the runoff To you know provide additional sedimentation to kind of settle out of the water Before enters into the closed drainage and things like that to help with some of that environmental impact Beyond what the existing facility has Other than the elevation is the entrance different The entrance of the facility is actually even even elevation wise because we're tying into an existing Road there where it's basically matching existing. It's it's pretty much the same as as it is under current conditions It'll be repaved with new pavement, but Beyond that it's gonna help the same um The new exits onto 62 Yes, is that going to take Have you taken the account enough swim room for cars to get around the corner? Yeah, so we've we've run turning movements and there's actually enough movements there for a bus Um for a bus to be able to exit out of that exit As you can see it the the radius here is much larger on this side than it is here on this side And it kind of has the same effect as like a slip ramp Where it guides you in the direction you're headed And so we did check the turning movements here to make sure that a bus would be able to exit the facility after So if they dropped off and picked up here, they would then cut through the center And then exit onto 62 this way. I believe it's going to be stop condition. So it is a stop It is not a slip ramp. It's a drive. Yeah, it's a driveway, but it is an angled driving I know. Yeah, um, yes. Oh, just seeing that you've got uh angles to your parking spots. I was wondering If you're going to have cars coming around the upper end of it So just your car's house We came back around to be able to use it So vehicles vehicles that wanted to use this exit after going this way would would would have to circle around an exit um The reason for the angled parking primarily is due to the limited space we have And so if we use perpendicular parking, we wouldn't have enough width in the aisles And so that's the primary reason for the angled parking. We did also make sure that all of the angled parking Any vehicles parking in that area would have their headlights shining away from his home Not angled towards his home. And so that was the reason for the direction of the angle parking that you see Oh, uh, yes, no left turn On this correct to me can try but It would be difficult and that's another reason why we angle that driveway To make it even more difficult for someone to try to attempt to go left You know, naturally you are angled into the correct direction of travel The the entrance Directly onto 62 seems unusual to me. Are there any rules about that or it's um from a traffic perspective and from a safety perspective We did evaluate that to make sure that there would be enough space and ability for vehicles to enter And it would be safe for them to do so and so we did evaluate that Based on the volumes that we would be generating by the facility Being close to the existing signal intersection The exiting vehicles would would basically Have those times when the traffic signal would slow the would slow the vehicles coming straight through That would be their opportunity to exit the facility. Um, but and it is a stopped condition. So we are Requiring the vehicles to come to a complete stop It's not a yield condition where they can just go and accelerate right onto 62 They do need to come to as a complete stop. So the idea being there's not that much Actual traffic doing that per day. Yeah, so close to the intersection. It's the equivalent of a red on red at the interstate Correct, and we're not generating Per hour vehicles being generated at the facility is a small enough number that we're not really contributing a lot of traffic to 62 in that area I've had a lot of experience living there even all my life 55 years the The existing parking lot I believe went in in 81 and it was a It was a perfect situation, you know for visibility It's close to the intersection all the things that make it Have made it a really great parking lot Are also the reasons that I feel it's That are that are against it from a safety standpoint and the traffic flow standpoint There's clearly a real need for a community parking lot in the immediate area But I feel like the entrance onto 62 Um just intuitively it seems a little sketchy to me. I get that it's the equivalent of the right on the red How far is it from there to the intersection from the The access of the the exit of the parking lot from I don't remember for sure off top of my head, but I would estimate It's about 300 feet or so 300 to 400 yards roughly I Think what you're saying makes a lot of sense when there's traffic has stopped there that makes perfect sense, but People going through the green light are cooking along they're pretty like pretty much like 50 I had my own vehicle totaled by a growing police officer running a red light about approximately 20 years ago My daughter approximately a year ago. Maybe a year and a half ago The same thing a person running red light in the wrong totaled her car with my infant granddaughter and She also about two years before that Further down 62 at the hospital intersection had the same thing and her car was told by somebody running a red light. So I just hope everybody in power here to have any influence over the decision-making process really Consider seriously just that 62 is a really dangerous stretch To me some of this would be helped by I think All the designers have done Contortions to try to make this better for me and I acknowledge that and I appreciate it Within having a lot there But in my mind designing towards the future It would be much better to have it across from the The new visitor center where there's bathrooms for people when they get back to the car after a long ride. There's refreshments. There's Still the same visibility and I don't think the state at the higher up level ever really considered any other spot than that And I just don't think it's Good planning for the future when we have the library site. We have the site across from The the visitor center that I think would Be all nearly as accessible and quick off the highway And would be a little safer for an approach for exit and entrance Thanks Any questions Comments on an awesome green Bob any questions? No, I apologize for getting here late. I actually believe the agenda You never do that, Bob But I've seen I was introducing the um, it's like we had an appointment. I agree with bob. I you know It would be nice if we're somewhere else Um, I understand the state's position. We invested this property already But um, I do think as we go forward and I would encourage the state to consider Stop considering these narrow strips of right of way Next to the highway Is the right way place to go The other comments Yep When you when you come off that exit under 62 You would turn you stop and then you turn right into the the second of the two lanes right there They're closer to the right lanes But there's no there's no slipstream lane that you could come into and then you could gradually Enter into that lane. There is not Particularly for the reason to encourage vehicles to actually stop If you provide them a a lane To go into then they typically will not Decelerate and we'll try to go right into 62 without slowing down So the idea is to encourage them to stop because they have to go into a travel lane. That's already there There's no fact that you have a 10 foot shoulder there Yeah, I'm advising with a slopeway. Yeah people use the shoulder, right? But it would not be signed as it is such and it wouldn't you know, we wouldn't make that formal The same thing's true with the intersection. It's a right on red turn. You know, again, not a you don't have any kind of that That right is a protected right. It's all controlled by the traffic So they will have a protected right turns that they will have a time when they can make that right turn where There aren't no there aren't opposing vehicles kinds. You know, they do it all the time now Yeah, the road's wide several years. Yeah, the road's wide enough there that they they go into the grass and kind of go And then This will help formalize that So are you proposing improving the the signals at the intersection? Yep, the signal timings will be updated and uh, and new signal heads And they'll be relocated to align with the new lanes And and so the signal heads will be shifted to the proper locations. Yes. Yep, new cabinet and all of that Any other questions? So we're just starting primary plans or in 2019 We could be I don't know. There's a lot of trees to clear but we could do clearing in the winter of 2020 But most likely it'd be tough to get the plans out to bid for the 2020 construction season I don't I don't believe you will either. Yeah, I don't believe we will either. So I would assume it'd be this summer Of 2021 at the earliest at the earliest we can get all the permits that we need We have enough of work going out in 2020. We would not put this one in You have a question thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you Thank you The modern new directions coalition getting burly Well, thank you for letting us talk to you This is Jamie Who's with my colleague? Central modern directions coalition We've been here before but it's been a while. So we thought it was a good time to check in and talk to you about the town's role in substance misuse prevention and other healthy ways of making your town Better place to live So i'm going to pass around a bunch of different things and talk about a few of them. This is just But this way who we are and what we do and how you can reach us and One thing i'm going to give you right off the top because it's new hot off the presses and Rather exciting is an ordinance from st. Johnsbury Who just declared their downtown public buildings tobacco free All the buildings and a 25 foot perimeter. So we we're watching pretty closely What's going on with ordinances having to do with tobacco? Because it's it's taking off, you know, we've been working on this for 20 some years and it's starting to take off Montpelier made its parks smoke-free about eight years ago Barry had smoke-free parks, but with our assistance They made bigger perimeters because some of the parks in barry Are pretty tiny and if you're out of the park and on the sidewalk the smoke is still going into the park so We did a little bit of work with them And they put a 25 foot perimeter around all the parks and threw in a couple extra parks too while they were at it And they put in a an ordinance that allows Certain public events to be declared if if the organizer of the event and mostly it's it's the downtown barry association They can make an event tobacco free So the the fourth joy parade that sort of thing has been done in a tobacco free way. It's It's a work in progress, you know, we've we've had tables down there and We have to keep reminding it's all posted and there's a designated smoking area But we have to keep reminding people that this is a tobacco free event There's a lot of children here the secondhand smoke is a a great danger to public health. So It's work in progress we have to politely talk to a lot of people I don't admit like that and one of the things that we've been giving out to towns for the last several years is A document that just says here's what towns can do It's it's fairly generic But there are a lot of things that towns can do In order to make the town a healthier place east muck pilier Last year when they did that redid their town plan They actually included a section on health for the first time ever And it's it's a fairly small section at this point But at least it puts the value into the town plan that we Want to make sure that we have access to fresh food. We want to make sure that we have Access to physical activity opportunities and that sort of thing barry has a section in their town plan as well So we just want to plant that seed that this is you know There's a lot of other things and other values that get expressed in ordinances and plans, but Public health isn't always there And We think it should be So this one we've got sections on alcohol tobacco marijuana and opiates Just what can you think about when you're looking at your town and these particular substances because those are the big ones A couple years ago. I did come up here and and talk about the vulnerability of towns to the marijuana industry and Most towns have nothing in statute Or anywhere else to protect themselves from Somebody just deciding that they wanted to get a permit to put a marijuana grow house on an empty lot If it's not in your zoning or if it's not in an ordinance, the law did not pass this year You probably know that but the law that was up for grabs was an opt Let me with this one opt Inverse opt in so you were you're automatically in unless you take an affirmative vote of the town to opt out of both retail And grow houses. So it's something to think about before you get a surprise of somebody who's Decided that they want to put some sort of a marijuana related facility in your town and you didn't see it coming You've you've been warned middle sex last summer did Give permission for a grow house right off of exit What is that exit eight nine? Yeah, hasn't been put in place yet, but they did approve it But they did put some conditions in because we went and talked to them about Risks that they were unaware of in terms of energy use and Water pollution and a whole bunch of other risks that we've heard from Other states that have and from our own experience with the dispensary system This particular growing group is organic farmers But what we hear from colorado in organum washington is that they they can be A lot of pollution a lot of herbicides and pesticides and things are used in These facilities and they do use boatload of electricity So something to think about be forewarned Have a quick question about the st. J Ordinance did they have to have a chart do a charter change to allow them to pass this ordinance? I don't know We heard about it through the grapevine and then I asked them for just a copy of the ordinance and that was what they sent me So I don't know if a charter change I don't know under what circumstances a charter change is needed for Well, I mean if if statute says the towns can regulate such things the towns can regulate such things if it doesn't Then you have to go through a charter change to enable that. Yeah, I don't know if they did that I think this was just a straight straight out ordinance, but I can ask them so Sort of in line with the document I just gave you we've we've been working on this one, which is um a town specific way to sort of frame some of the Conceptual ideas that are in that first document So for that one I looked through Some data sources I looked through here. What was on your website? The part of that is here are things that a town can do To make it a healthier place and then It goes into some data around well. Here's what Berlin is already doing And didn't find a lot of ordinances that were relevant But there are certain things resources particularly on your website that point people in the direction of farmers markets and other kinds of resources that Help you I have the most recent data I can find to let you know how you're doing with the youth risk behavior survey and From the vermont department of health website to say How are we doing health-wise in in this area? And It's it's not great You know, we have a lot of issues And a lot of health issues we have relatively high tobacco use and And that creates a lot of health issues And our our youth are Again, we have pretty high but vermont in general and I fried where Washington county was higher than Or actually the u32 district was higher than the state because we always look at that comparison The tobacco among youth use has been like a roller coaster It was just going down down down down down because of all the work that was being done To stop advertising and do some point of sale work and that sort of thing And then the e-cigarettes hit about three four years ago And it's back up to 30 percent. It was down below 10 Because those are marketed to appeal to young people. They come in bubble gum and hundreds of different flavors and We talked to a lot of youth. Jamie's done a ton of presentations at schools and all around the county They don't Think there's nicotine in them and there is a lot They don't think that they're harmful. They think that what's being inhaled is just water vapor. It's not it's a chemical time bomb So It's something that we're really concerned about and you probably heard that there was legislation passed this Session to raise the edge of purchase of tobacco to 21 which we've been working on for Decades so that's great because the research shows that if somebody hasn't started smoking by the time they're 21 They most likely never will it's less than 1 so if you can just put it off You might Have people who never smoke and that's exactly why The tobacco has been fighting that so hard They also have put a tax on the e-cigarettes that's equivalent to that on alcohol and tobacco And they put some legislation in place that you can only sell these products if you're a licensed Vermont dealer So they can't order them for none of them anymore. Even if they get a gift card from grandma They can't do that. So three big wins on tobacco that we're pretty excited about and postponing the marijuana Which is great So this little handout informative handout is about point of sale We did an audit of every store in washington county a year ago That sells tobacco or alcohol and The results of that let us know that there are We're doing actually quite well in in terms of Point of sale We we look for things like our our cigarettes put near Toys and candy and things that are attractive to kids are advertising At a low level where it'll be Right in the kids face when they are in a store, you know, how much advertising are they exposed to in a store or outside of the store and So this is a little document that that says why We think about point of sale and this is something that's totally in the wheelhouse of a town to Look at and and put some restrictions on it. You you can't restrict The content you can't pass a law that says No tobacco advertising because that by the way, it's the first amendment But you can put restrictions and some many times have done this on the amount of window space that can be covered by advertising And in a lot of communities, they're doing this for two reasons. One is to cut down on the number of ads, particularly Substance ads that kids are exposed to but the other one is just a safety thing, you know If you picture a typical convenience store and it the windows are completely covered with ads Nobody can see in the building law enforcement driving by for instance And people in the building can't see out to parking lot to see what's going on. So from a public safety point of view That's another reason to think about doing something around advertising I've got one copy of this because I was just Saving paper, but this came from the um The health department, uh, just pass it around. It's just sort of a summary a stat up status update of what's going on in the county from All the data sources that the health department has which are many many data sources so um Jamie was going to bring Our butlers because she at the downtown event that was yesterday. She had a table with butlers butlers are these um Her her husband took the car with the butlers and yeah, so Butlers to show you the no show and tell but you've probably seen them in Montpelier They're about this tall and they're on street signs And they've got a little hole in them and they're decorated. They look like a little bird house And it's where you can put a cigarette butt Instead of putting it on the ground and either stepping on it or not The ones that go on the ground End up in the gutters and they end up in the Wendoski river. There is no vocation System for cigarette butts on the ground So they go into the river and They kill the fish in the ducts. So We put these in we now have I think 15 or so of them we started with just five and we've been adding to them the we have a partnership with Montpelier alive and The trash tramps who are the folks who go around on tuesdays and pick up litter My husband is one of them and he specializes in picking up cigarette butts. He does use toms And they have to wear gloves He gets hundreds On in an hour on every tuesday because that's how many are are on the ground and then we get Another many hundreds when we empty the butlers and what happens to those butts that get picked up are their recycle They're sent to new jersey and they're recycled. They take out the compostable parts the tobacco They and they compost those but all of the fibrous parts and the filters They recycle them and they become part benches and that sort of plastic recycle stuff It's a company called terra cycle Barry had now has butlers too Um It's it's a great public health statement to just encourage people to Do something with their cigarette butts rather than just throw them on the ground We've worked for several years with Montpelier to get them to think about Making some of free downtown We haven't given up, but they haven't either But it's it's something that I think towns can think about and when you're doing your new new downtown Planning it's something to think about if you're going to have senior housing or something like that How can you make a downtown or part of a downtown? smoke-free ch just did that It's pretty easy to get beyond what's town property or 25 foot perimeter I'm not sure what they're doing with sidewalks If it's if it's within the perimeter Um, what we'd like to see is is a smoke-free downtown where Nobody has to breathe anybody else's smoke kids people who are allergic And Recognizing that there are people who are addicted to that go We would suggest that we have some kind of a designated smoking area so that people who Need to smoke or feel that they need to smoke have somewhere to go Where there's somewhere to put their butts and they can be Sheltered because right now they often have to huddle Around the back of a building because they can't smoke in the buildings So they just go right outside So we we we're trying to figure that one out But we haven't done that yet So and the last thing I want to invite you to is We do community forums and this one is coming up. It's going to be at Kellogg Hubbard library. It's on alcohol Alcohol is still the number one substance of abuse in our culture We hear a lot more about opiates, but in terms of the number of people impacted Alcohol is the big one It's just something about cold northern towns. It just lends itself to Wanting to drink it's a big deal with kids and youth use We did this same presentation and at the Aldrich library a few weeks ago and The head of the ER department up at CVMC is one of the presenters Dr. Noshkuri And it was riveting what he had to say about what he's seeing at much younger ages in terms of liver impact Then he saw 20 years ago So Feel free to put that on your website or invite the community members because it's Kellogg Hubbard library. We all I think now Belong to that or maybe I'm not Berlin era. I don't know So any any questions or thoughts or comments on How to make a healthier Berlin in terms of substance misuse which is What we call it now It's not called abuse anymore. It's substance misuse because substances can be used effectively or in a way that's harmful Who's seen a butler? Have you noticed that you've seen them? Yeah, I think I have yeah, yeah right there on the street Yeah, I just got back from Germany where they're everywhere. Really? Ours come from Portland, Maine. It's a guy who just Hated seeing the butts on the ground and so he invented this thing and He's he's refining it constantly so they're much better than they were five years ago But yeah, they have all sorts of like catchy slogans encouraging people to use them Yeah, a Paris put in place a really significant fine if you drop a butt on the ground like hundreds of dollars We don't do that. We just stare at them I haven't seen the butlers yet, but I'll be looking for them. You know, they're all up and down Main Street and going down State Street. They don't go past the state house A lot of those buildings are protected because their federal buildings are state buildings. So they already have a perimeter Yeah So we've got them where we can What we did was we did a census to see where butts were congregating And those are the places where we tried to put the butlers Because where people were already dropping a lot of cigarette butts. That was a hot spot Some some stores have their own little Devices or whatever buckets various things outside Um But they complained because we did a big major survey They complained about having to sweep up so many butts every day when they come in in the morning And we have had complaints from store owners In the summer that if they have their doors open Particularly if they have fine clothing or anything that the smoke is going to damage Because it comes right in to the facility. So A lot of lot of stuff to do Any ideas any suggestions? What should we work on next? What would you like to see us focusing on? I think it's a huge undertaking as it is right now. There's just so much and I commend you on Everything you're doing already Yep, we're the ones who do the take-back days and the mailers so that if you can't get to a take-back day We now have permanent drop boxes in every police department and many pharmacies where you can just go and Drop off your drugs rather than leaving them in your medicine cabinet for whoever comes into your house to Access It is and uh barry's had a pilot program for sharps that we're looking to see if we can Get it out possibly to town perks and other rural places so that you can get rid of Needles in a safe way You can recycle them, but you have to duct tape them into a laundry detergent It's it's easier to just slip them into a sharp disposal thing and dispose of them safely and It's not used It's used somewhat by people who are abusing Injectable substances is used mostly by people who have a medical reason And an incredible amount of it is people who have to shoot medicine into their pets They don't know what to do with the news I noticed this is a fairly new ordinance in st. John's So it's really too early to see what effect it's had so that will be interesting to see. Yeah What effect it has yeah, the coalitions all communicate regularly so we're in regular touch with the st. Jay people they started with parks Is barry city's um fairly new as well. That's a couple years old really have they noticed any improvements or any sort of Statistics on that I don't think we have any statistics, but just curious. I'll ask Lucas what's what he's seeing He was really an advocate the mayor there That would be great that uh somewhere in one of the documents. There's that three four fifty, which is you know three Yeah, three behaviors lead to four chronic illnesses that lead to more than 50 percent of deaths of vermons I think it's over 60 percent. No, it's like 50 years when I looked at I think yeah So towns can earn from the health department they can earn scores Metals Actually metals you can be a bronze silver gold town in terms of this public health initiative and Barry's already gold And they want to know if we're going to make it platinum There's going to be a platinum ranking and what would they have to do to get that so they're They're interested in Increasing the visibility of public health in their town And given the social media is so huge are you using social media right now? Absolutely And a lot of this stuff too can be student led like students Surveying where areas in the town have a lot of cigarette litter or you know, like I know that st J they work with a lot of their ovx or voices exposed student led group to help You know talk with administrators and talk with people and make stuff happen So they can tie it into school learning as well, which is my specialty and what I do with the organization So it can be a multifaceted project. It was spawning students who actually got the butlers Yep there. Do you remember Allie wolf? Did she work with you guys? She was she was doing some she's a Was a berlin resident u32 student. I know she was doing a lot that that name rings a bell. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and I just thought from on statutes explicitly allow Times to adopt penis board and scissor-wrecking smoking. So it doesn't have to be a church Oh good. I don't have to ask That Any other questions Thank you for letting us thank you You have our concrete information if you think of another route that you think would be uh worth our time Thanks for all the materials too. You bet. Maybe come to that put some out in the community come to that event Thank you. Thank you. Good night Brad, perhaps you would put next the Working in the right-of-way application For mr. Fitzhugh So working in the right way josh. Yes. Yeah, this is We have a farm access road off mccardy road mccardy road is a just a short road that has Only one home on it right now The wilcox dave and davin last wilcox But we use there's a road that we use to access our Our fields for hay And there's a pretty sharp turn off mccardy road to get on that And so we the suggestion is that we increase the length of the culvert. There's a On the road foreman something you're looking at it last week I think it's a 15 inch existing 15 inch uh culvert steel culvert 20 feet long and the suggestion was to increase that to 40 feet two lengths of 20 feet each I guess the town has some culvert which I would buy From the town and then maybe we'd put it in and that's pretty all it's just as simple So but it allows the turn to be a little easier. You don't have to worry quite as much about Yeah, just an extension very little traffic on that road and you have seen it in your Let's just groove deeper in for digging in the right-of-way that's presented And I second that motion Any further discussion? All those in favor? Thank you very much. Thank you, mr. I enjoyed the listening to the presentation on the On the passageway. I don't get to code. I don't come to very many slight board meetings. So Thank you No, I don't know yet You said you had the the Covered inside the data policy that With the culverts in the driveways Yes So That culvert size is more than that. We're prepared. It's been 18 inch culvert. We'll go 18 Because he's going to putting that road in the area. He's going to divert some more water into that depth So yeah, I might see it go to 18. Yep So, I mean I could pick the culvert up next week if it's if it's available here. Okay. All right. I'll be in touch with you Thank you very much Thank you. Thank you. Yeah What does a culvert cost 18 inches like 85 It's That one there, I was thinking just a crush culvert With more the give a little more dirt over the top of it. It's too flat down to it Okay, uh Sean lambson I had thought Sean was coming in I tried to call him today, but his voicemail was full so I couldn't Leave him a message. Um, you saw my memo on that. He spoke with me. We had a mistake in the in the bid spec Um, but you had spoken with Sean And his I thought his bid did indicate that he understood About what we were looking for Oh, excuse me. Had he done this for us before? He yeah, he worked for us two years ago Yeah, and so the bid was um 5500 Sean did 5,000 mr. Um dexter's bid Mr. Dexter added on Um, the additional would be additional His per hour rate Sean included his Second pass on the rows and and he knows what those rows were because you went over that Last year, um, as you remember, I looked up what we paid last year was 50 to 50 What was the bed last year a 5,000? It's the same. Yeah um so I You know, I understand and I regret that the Request wasn't correct. It will be next year Um, because they only make a five foot Am I right on that five over the rail? Over the rail moment only the biggest is five foot But I don't see really a valid reason to Change the How many hours would it take to do the second pass? Do two Two hours It's only up here on the hill Just a black belt and the intersections up here because there's just so much traffic So it seemed like we took that into consideration and went with the low thing. He did quite a bit like over on west hill um East road Different places that he felt it wasn't safe after a moment just one pass. He didn't know the pass, but he didn't take The only hour we rate that he charged was up here on the hill. It was two hours That was shorn. No My only concern with this was that If he didn't get it at six foot, which would require two passes Then he was bidding it differently than I was at the time Um, you see, you know what I mean? He has been said that he was one pass One pass both sides four to six feet Is that what it says there? So before he that's what the bid proposal was So my little thing I was trying to hold on Thing I was trying to wrap my head around was for me Just when I was looking at this um, because I couldn't figure out what was missing but We put it out the bed for six feet. We accepted beds based on six feet And then we accepted a bed that was So lambson knowing he was going to have to mow six feet wide Put in his bed for 5,500 then We ended up accepting a bed for five feet Without asking without even going back to getting the additional information from the other people that bit That was the only thing then I thought It didn't it wasn't You know if he had had notification that it was a five foot swallow, maybe it would have changed maybe wouldn't have It changed his bid at all, but that was what my you know if he had a That's all Just I think that if he Think that we put this out at six foot wide pass Then you can't just accept bids when they come in at five feet without at least giving the other people that bid An opportunity to bid on or make sure that they Have the same price. Does that make sense? I understand what you're saying But the one thing that I vaguely remember and I have to either listen to the tape again But I feel like we had a small discussion about one of the two bids The owner not having the particular mower, but maybe thinking about expanding and I feel like He had one available Discussion that a few of us had about that so I don't remember how it got started, but I feel like we talked about it when we were in negotiate what when we were looking at who to Get the bid and I know we talked also about Berlin residents too. That was also part of our discussion So I just came up the the equipment. I mean he was bidding a little over the rail mower I mean regardless of whether somebody owns one now or not. That's what the bid is for that's what they'll have to do And the bid was also for six feet So my just my thought on changing a bid or changing what we accept in the middle of the bid process was that Somebody could put up a stink about it That's all What do you think he'd be bidding it? I would think that we'd at least Give the opportunity to bid it at five feet You know I'm being specific about it I think that seems fair and reasonable that's all Which is the time's already sad 150 something like that Well, Sean told me that he was running a mower for one week And I don't think he can do it So I don't know Why he would have thought that he had to get more because he had to make two passes around the whole town I don't really know that's not I don't know whether it's shown and what equipment he has it's to me irrelevant because He came and talked with me and I told him it was one pass That was it and then Nothing was mentioned about feet because I didn't know anything about this And then he he asked me why are you going to walk two passes In some areas and I said yes, and I said the way we're doing that is by the hour so I certainly agree that it's not Fair if you're not Unequal footing when someone gives the bid I I I agree with you on that. I make it absolutely And and I certainly sympathize with Sean. I had a nice discussion with Sean I was hoping he'd be here tonight so that he could talk to you about it Um, but when I read his bid It says price for mowing road size will be 5500. This is for one pass both sides He doesn't say anything about two passes Right. No, I know and you know, I mean I understand I agree with what you're saying. It's unfortunate and I should make Every effort not to have that happen again um Because it's unfortunately The select board and we do have it in the bid has the Discretion to to grant what they feel is in the best interest of the town So in other words, if you had a bid that They decided you decided for whatever reason not to take the lowest bid for example, maybe the lowest bid was I'm not talking this But you know, maybe the lowest bid is is a vendor that Isn't going to be able to fulfill his obligation or something. I mean the board There'd be no problem with the board doing that. There's no state law It's a policy of the board to To bid the bid things which is a normal policy that towns have So that's that's my only statement with it. Um, I understand it's regretful. It's too bad And I'm sorry that happened Yeah, I think if I had Given that if If how we were at the other meeting I would have brought that up and I would have just asked the table You know, and we didn't think yeah, we didn't think of it then either for clarification Like we did with the other long morning, right? I remember that. Yeah. Yeah, so I agree with you But I think at this point in time that it's not Rebidding it really isn't Going to help us You know, yeah, given that we're right in the season and we've made the decision That's just my opinion You think we're allowed this thank you for speaking with Sean when he came in. Oh, I like talking with me. Yes Okay, uh highway truck replacement discussion so, um Tim one thing that and I'm upset this to you. Um, you know what our financial situation is Can we Is this absolutely I mean I saw his This leasing application we could go out and borrow money for a less Rate than what he has and I know he's trying to make a solution and I appreciate it But what I'm not Understanding and I'm not saying that it's not so but What is wrong with the other with the truck? Could it go another year? And if you feel it couldn't I mean Obviously you've got to have equipment that works It's It's going to be seven years, right and we're gonna have to bounce money into it What's your what's the where's the money going to it? The it's it's got to have a new voice Which is $3,500 It's got to have new cylinders on both the front and the wing back of the wing Steering boxes leak in oil It's going to have to have Where breaks it's going to have to have weird tires We just don't About 5,000 into it With a new fan hub And Cooling issue So I think it's just I feel it's going to start nickel and diamond big time Those things that I mentioned it. I've got to be done before it goes into another winner The voice actually may be done before that Are they still holding Tight with the price they quoted us He never got back to me. Um, they did get the state the vermont state bid and he told me that they would I did That's How Well, the other thing we want to avoid is I know you've had trouble with the grader And there are other equipment I mean Obviously if you wait, you're just deferring your problem. I'm just trying to get We're talking greater this year because It's getting tired Down for a week here last week Yeah, yeah, I ain't got a bill on it yet, but I hate to see it What wrong with it water pump? Don't Four and a half gallons being the reason of the crankcase Who was the warranty on this one? the new truck Seven years they went longer Seven I thought it was an eater. Well, there's an extended warranty opportunity that you buy Yeah, one year's warranty. Yeah, in fact, they didn't you buy extended warranty, which is included in that price It's seven years So if you had to look at the next five years, you're imagining Greater this truck um Two other trucks one of the truck. No, um Your next truck is a 15 so that's 22 if we go in the seven years So we got so so if you just at the end of that then yeah, so so this truck greater another truck Yeah, I mean we talked greater last year The whole deal we had to spend the money for that right I'm just thinking if we press the snooze button on this So we don't want to do because we don't want to have a year where we're getting to right and that's that would be bad I concur because we've been we've been this is We got one It's an 18 but we got it in 17. So we're We're um You know we've been two years without purchasing Timmy's ran that truck 200 greater replacement cost 250 to 275,000 so from the same ballpark anyways What's it worth? um He said around 150,000 Oh, wow So Australia would would be pretty favorable that so we're looking at 100 100 then net Yeah, but The trouble is you're talking you're talking buying another cat And putting it out to bid it's going to take and john dear me taking you win the bid on the price But now you're going to trade it Well john dear is the one that gave me the price on the trigger He said between the 130 to 150,000 But you still have to put out the bid for cat. Yeah That's where bands can be tricky again. Well, so I mean that's something has to happen John dear the only two left Well, we'll make greater But but it has to be done and at some point. So when we pull the trigger on each of these things It would be good not to do two at the same time What would you don't feel like it would be better to look at a greater option before the truck? Or what do you think's gonna be the most cost? I mean, we've we've put some money into the greater I mean, we just had a whole bunch of more work done on it last year And then the water pump I mean It's you know, it's Things break The truck gets worked a lot So and when I look I mean if you think about it if you have a seven-year warranty on the truck It's a little over 22,000 dollars a year to have a truck that's completely covered under warranty But being you know on the board my issue is I don't know where the heck we pay for that And you're saying we used up a lot of the funds that we had available Kind of set aside, right? Yeah, well, I mean we were the board was trying to Set aside a certain amount of money for an equipment fund In order to avoid having to borrow the money for this equipment Obviously we've had some other crisis happen and so we don't have any money that's set aside We've got 200,000 that we budgeted this year in well when I say this year. I mean the f y 20 budget which begins in three weeks Um, and we have the culvert on Richardson road, which I wish I knew exactly how much it was going to cost Mira Le cost us 208,000 Um, we did have a grant on that one. We do not on Richardson as of yet I you know, I question whether we would because we got it last year. However, can we wait another year for Richardson road? I mean it's the same. We're in the same situation The only thing I know about the grant situation is is that the state's a little behind because Of all the flood damage that we've gotten the right In the last two weeks, they were very generous last year and I appreciate that So so I think stocking the money away so that we don't have to get the loan It's still probably the right thing to do and to continue doing that going down going down the road but I think in this case, I think Getting the loan or getting the lease whatever whatever the financial instrument that we use is and get the truck and Solve this now. I think it's still the right thing to do even if you do have to eat some of the interest We could borrow the month rather than do this lease deal We could borrow the money on our own at a more attractive interest rate We usually bid those and I You know, some of the last one was like 0.9 innocent Very small the thing is with the lease was there's because you weren't here You were just trying to financial work through it was You released it And the first year is no payment And then at the end of the year If you have the money then you can just pay off the truck So this in a way works similar because I always arrange it So the first payment is a year after we get it because I only we only pay once a year So it's yeah, it's nice to get a loan and say I'll pay you next year for my first payment But So I mean we could pay off the whole thing But with whatever sort of loan or lease that we get done, right? Yes And if the if the Richardson road project doesn't cost there may be so much left over Who knows wouldn't that be great? Yeah Happen that miraculous would be grant money that came in you can't use that In the budget towards the truck right towards the truck. No, it's got to go to whatever you grant But we could use that to pay for Richardson road and have money left over then in the highway fund It's then love the truck It wouldn't be post repair that you won't receive the grant No, no, you'd have to do before when you get a grant from the state you have one year to use it, right So It's bad. Yeah, there's multiple trucks. There's only one Richardson road So, I mean it fails. That's it. It's one of these issues that It's gone too long And it should be fixed and we have another big culvert coming up, but I'm not telling you about it right now Um However Again, we're in the same situation. I mean if we postpone We pressed the snooze button once already. Yeah I gotcha if we If we do take and do the lease arrangement In one year, there's gonna be an interest payment there somewhere. Yes 3.72 percent of the full amount on on the full amount He's giving us five Let me just pass this to you so you refreshes your memory I believe that we should get our own loan Much at a much more And we are um satisfying a loan this year, so I mean It's usually when you have a car you finish paying for it And then it's time to get another one our new here the board made a Thing so that if we buy under state contracts You're not gonna get it cheaper if you put it out to bed Nobody's gonna be mistaken. I'm sorry for financing. Yeah, that's why that's why we're going with international There's no bit because they have the state contract and I understand that It's way cheaper We like to put the bit for financing out For a couple reasons first of all it it the bank sometimes are hungry So in three weeks the new budget comes into in the premises of the equipment from then 200 thousand 205 thousand something like that Now I don't to be honest with you Is what we're hearing on the cover. I don't think it's gonna get done this year in less Well, I mean we've got to reserve the money. Yeah, I know that but I understand So if if you or if you ordered a truck when would the truck come? If if you decide to buy it now, it'll be here in August So it would be set up and ready to go for the winter. So you got a ten thousand dollar interest payment roughly But if you were to take and borrow the money over Five years Usually we do five years So you've got a hundred and If it's one percent 255 thousand that's 15 30 divided by five Figures went to work in here I'm just doing a straight line interest. Uh, so you're looking at Somewhere what around 30 some other thousand you're looking around 30 something thousand In here if you do the full amount now there's I mean, well, that's 155 thousand. So that's the trading map That's the track the truck plus less the trade. Yeah. Yeah um Now if you put Again, we're buying this truck in august I don't know if we'll know about riches and road, but maybe we could throw a little bit of money toward it Is that with the 200 thousand in the new budget You stop and think 30,000. So now you have 170,000 roughly we're a equivalent fund. I think we're all For the original road project Yeah And when we do the financing budget we budget in the debt service so it goes to another spot Yeah And we wouldn't be budgeting that until This fall when we do the 21 budget Is everyone clean? I think if we put the financing out to bed come back next time then we can We look at it a little bit more concrete area So would you like us to put the rfp out for the financing? So, I mean, it's not going to hurt anything. Absolutely. Okay Sure $150 for the uh No Um, usually with the banks, we just mail them. Yeah, um, or email them. We have we have all our connections. Good So he told you that they would hold that right? I really would like to check with him again But he told me they had the state bid and I asked about the price and I don't know whether he meant they were holding it until This meeting this meeting Um, so that's If they want to tell them that we're it could be so I will probably interested in moving forward I will call them tomorrow tell them where we are and um And I think we have a good relationship with Clarks and I'm hoping that they would Work with us Okay, thank you. We've got a Play of attack on this No Thank you, Tim Okay, uh, you get a lot of complaints about real great Stop it. I don't know if you guys have done But we were down a week You know if you had a new grade or you're pretty no I don't I don't have a problem with the grade But I can help We got the money I notice the rain every other day right The weather's been a huge Oh, we got a lot of complaints from down the airway. There's the only time people actually did speed limit more Yes And I have all the ones I got one person called me back and thanked us for doing it the other day You know, it's funny even with the rain we got that road still held up Yeah, well a part of the problem part of that deal is is that we've Gone to the the granite Yeah, well, I mean that black they had like a day and a half two days of Being dried people driving over It's hard to get right out. Yeah I just I don't know how many complaints you guys all got but I've had quite a few That's good. You're doing your job too No, I mean I I know how they feel is it's bad And it's hard on the car and I was If this is going worse, certainly not real if they've been a cracked head or Or a head gasket or something they were talking three to four weeks. You know getting it fixed So I got prices on rent and graders because I know What it was, you know, what it was going to happen. Yeah, and I'm working tomorrow Well caught up Well, as long as we damaged the berries. No, no, he said it we didn't run it He did up and it's the computer shut him down over on Yeah, he was coming back out across down the road with it and it shut him down He was able to get back here, but they put you in limbo And we put the interface into it Because it was down on the interface And the oil wasn't Wasn't milking and it wasn't up. Yeah, but The deal was good. No so but No, the mechanic said that We changed he changed the oil the day he changed the water pump. We changed it the next day and then Changed it again They ran in the day and changed it again and put a new filter on it. He said we should be safe It's and I I'd run a check. I'd run it. I'd run it and then when you get ready to do your last Do your next oil change and see if they can draw a sample make sure there's no high metal content Yeah, but I mean I checked the oil today It's clean. Yeah, it's clean as a whistle So, okay, man Moving right along. Thank you very much Have a good evening. Yeah, you too. Thank you. Okay, license approval policy As you recall, um, Keith Paxton from cornerstone had come in and spoken to you about the possibility Of the board allowing a catering permit to be approved by the town clerk Which is kind of how it's set up everywhere else And I guess, you know The clerk I think we have a reliable person that knows Who Who knows things and would Be able to make that decision it would save Some people it would make it a little more user friendly for people that Don't have time to wait till another select board meeting in short more meetings and I sincerely doubt that However, if that's a selling point, yeah, what you mean, so really be sure Um, well Anybody want to make a motion on this or what do we have a policy that we're Adopting or are we directing Dana to draft one? I was thinking you would direct me to draft one. Okay. I move that Dana drafts a catering license approval policy My second motion this word for the town clerk to do. Yeah, okay Don't know if he brings us something else Well, you never know Any further discussion? hearing none those in favor, all right motion carries Committee people Yes, thank you All I need to know is where I put that one I first of all, um I've just got a little housekeeping to do The liaisons to the fire company those are annual Appointments and I never remember to do it So if you would I'm assuming that mr. Hanson and mr. Diamond teedies are still willing to serve another year and I would encourage the board to Reappoint them to that So I've moved to appoint Myself and jr. D. M teedies to be the town liaisons to the broland volunteer fire department And I second that motion Any further discussion? All those in favor Then um The planning commission has had a few Resignations and they're having a real problem with a quorum we have Two candidates That have come forward and are interested in being appointed. As you know, I usually ask them to come in to meet you first um One of the candidates is jared felch who lives on stewart road is a lifelong resident and I imagine most of us know him He would like to be appointed the other is a new resident jake of coke well lives in partridge farm road um He expressed interest and he has been to a couple planning board planning commission meetings and The members of the planning commission have also encouraged me to encourage you to have him appointed um If we do not appoint Tonight we would not have a quorum at their next meeting We've had Two have actually resigned and gary la roge. I think I just thought he's resigned as well I just got his resignation for personal reasons So I moved to be appoint jared felch and jake of coke well to the planning commission and I second that motion Any further discussion? Hearing none those in favor And finally, um Mr. Long who was Appointed as an alternate member of the public works board Um, there has been a resignation on the public works board and we would like to encourage you to appoint mr Long as a regular member Edward long moved to appoint edward long to the public works commission Any further discussion hearing none those in favor Thank you Any other committee That's all I have thank you Thank you We'll select more minutes I make the motion that unless there's any discussion Any discussion I make the motion that we approve the select board minutes for may 2nd and may 16th 2019 I'll second that I can't vote on the 16th, but So we probably do these Maybe split them I'll make the motion to approve the select board minutes of may 2nd 2019 And I make the motion that we accept the select board minutes of may 16th You need to finish the effort. Yeah, first one. Yeah, it's true. Thank you Any further discussion on the select board minutes for may 2nd Hearing none those in favor. All right I make the motion of approval for the select board minutes of may 16th 2019 So I come to motion There was a just a typo at the top of page 204 in the down street section It's just um On the fourth line down to the sense that the it's downtown is anxious to have a presence until then that should just read down street Oh, okay I would fix it So I make the motion that we approve the select board minutes of may 16th 2019 with the correction noted Select the motion Any further discussion Hearing none those in favor All right Carries That's right I've been waiting to show you. Um, I've spoken to you about the all boards night. This is going out tomorrow um Inviting people to the all boards night It's going to be wednesday the 26th over at the Grange And somehow i'm going to figure out how to get a light dinner Indicatory license so So at what time i'm sorry it's going to begin at 5 30 um I'm wondering how many people will come but 30 maybe I'm hoping um And basically it will be a time. Well, I think it's nice for all the committees to get together and see each other and and Mingle and that type of thing also, um We'd like to make a presentation on the town center so that all the committees know what we're What we're what the goal is Is the fire department being invited to this as well? I can certainly invite them. Um, yeah Jeremy and and uh, joe is that those would be the best people and then they can they can invite the fire department board Okay, all right, so i'm hoping that you all can come um The next meeting and donahue is coming to talk to you about at 46, okay Uh black road discussion will be on the agenda next next week. Uh, I mean in two weeks Um, josh wasn't in town and beth wasn't in town and again joss asked you the other week To take over the winter maintenance and to allow to drop the restriction on the width And I have a couple of these. What would you like to have one wonderful any other takers? Okay, I try It is it is um, I get a weekly construction update for the interest the exit six project, they're still grubbing the top of the The uh, ledge and uh getting ready. They're going to be closing exit six the 18th Of june and it will be closed the end of july Except if they'll be reopening on the 4th of july And that's all I have Hey Can we look at the board to recess the select board and continue like a control board second All those in favor I This oh This is uh, uh an outside consumption permit. It's for an extension for the Um, it's a temporary extension for the bowling alley Um twin city lanes Uh for an a function that they're having They already have an outside permit, but they want to extend the area Okay, uh for a little bigger party move to prove the outside consumption permit for twin city lanes The second promotion Give me further discussion Those in favor And Motion to exit the liquor control I need the motion to exit the liquor control board I can convene the select board me and convene the select board absolutely 100 percent seconding that Okay, all those in favor All right Let's get around round table justice. It's good to be back where I lost a mungo there for a second I don't have anything I don't have anything I don't have anything Yeah Executive session data Um, no Move to adjourn Chicken All those in favor of adjourning All right