 I've been told more than one occasion that you were the last person ordained in the West Texas Conference. As a matter of fact, it was two of us. It was my roommate, I mean, schoolmate, John Green, who now is retired out of the Southern California Conference. At the time, were you aware or anyone aware that that would be the last ordination for the West Texas Conference? Oh, yeah. It became a kind of a historical feeling kind of a meeting because they knew there would be the last one. And so there was a lot of emphasis on the expectations of the new church and that sort of thing. I think there was great anticipation of what this transition would be. There was considerable talk about how the merger of the black and white constituencies of the church would form a sort of formidable religious denominational structure, namely that the African Americans would bring to the church. It's strong emphasis on worship and preaching and somehow infuse the church with that. And the Anglo church with its educational component, organizational structure component. All this was expected to make this a very formidable denomination in the country. So to some extent we're still looking for that, but that was part of the anticipation though. So were there feelings of fear, feelings of excitement? I think there was concern about what would happen to our history, what would happen to our churches. We just fade in the background and lose our sense of who we have been, who we are, who we were, and what strengths we had, will they continue to grow and develop or would they be mitigated by the presence of a new church? So there was a fear, but also there was great anticipation on the other side. This is an opportunity that to some extent our ancestors fought for and died for, lived for. So let's live into it. Yeah, right. And let's work to make this work, because that's what we've been after all along.