 meeting to order, and we'll begin with the Pledge of Allegiance, if there will be a drive in the pledge. So you don't have to get up. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. See you guys can't see if I got a flag outside the window here. So I look outside. All right. I would I would move that we move on rose presentation up to the front of the agenda. I'm seeing this up on screen and everything else. Everybody has a chance to look at it or has had a chance to look at it. Is there a second to that motion? I'll move. Move in second. All speakers say aye. Aye. All right. I know it's yours. Thank you so much, Jerry. And good afternoon to you all. Thank you for the opportunity to come back and give you an update on where we are with the Royal Water Improvements Project. It's been a lot of work to stay in place over the last, you know, nine, 10 months since we've, you know, given a presentation and to to the board. And you authorize this to begin the primary engineering design effort. So this presentation kind of summarizes the design concept that we put together. There are a lot of details in here. Feel free to, to, you know, stop me at any point given the pre during this presentation to ask any questions or make any comments. This is meant to be very interactive. So let me know when you if you don't see the slides moving. I'm on the agenda slide. So when I just give you some background on the drivers and the objectives of the project summary of the improvements, some of the various design elements, talk a little bit about permitting and schedule, I'm sure costs as on everyone's mind. I will touch briefly on that as we in can kind of our final, you know, grown engineering report document and the cost. But wanted to make sure today that what we're presenting that we haven't missed anything that the board has any questions or concerns about. So why are we doing this project? You probably have seen something similar to this before. And you've heard this from Joe and Bill. There are a number of challenges with the existing raw water system. The existing 30 inch intake is over 100 years old. It's it's really getting to the point where it's the end of its useful life. There is also a capacity issue in terms of what you're projected demand are looking like a calm did a comprehensive well, well completed demand study that looked at the need for this system over the next 50 years. And essentially neither intake. If one goes down that you're able to meet max day or even average day with the with the 30 inch, which I've just said is over 100 years old. In addition to the intake issues, there's really reliability problems with the existing raw water pump station. DNR has pointed out that these motors are below lake levels. And so if there is a flooding or, you know, water damage into into the pump station to the motors, that could be challenged to get water out of the plant. They also have a priming system that's that's had a lot of challenges over the years to be able to get water out of the pump station. So for all these reasons, capacity, condition and reliability resiliency, that the utilities embarking on a very important project to to reliably bring water into the treatment plant. So I know we're going to talk about a lot of numbers. But you know, this kind of a little bit of a boring slide, but it sort of helped establish what the basis of design is. What are the guiding principles for this pump station? As we look at the intake, this is this is an intake that should last you at least another 75, not 100 years like the existing intake. So we got to be able to have the flows that are projected in that demand study that AECOM did. So we looked at the high demand projection because we want an intake that could bring that much water. As far as the pump station, we want to have the pumps as is right now to meet the rate of capacity of the plant, but also have the ability in the future to go above this 34 MGD. And then I talk a little bit about that with the new design that we could actually go as high as 50 MGD if two of the smaller pumps were swapped with larger pumps. The next thing we look at is lake levels. Obviously, with lake levels changing over time, some years they may go below historical record lows, some they may go above historical high. And that has a lot of implications on the design of the pump station. So we don't want to just rely on historical record, but we want to go give herself a little bit of a safety margin. So in this case, we went one foot above the historical high. And we also went 1.4 below the historical low. And that was really based on a good document that was put together by Wisconsin Initiative on Climate Change. We looked at what these lake levels might look like. So flows and lake levels really dictate what this pump station design capacity would need to have. This is a schematic. You can see we've got our new intake. We want to also plan to, in the future, that an emergency intake could be extended out in the lake if the old intakes are abandoned over time. We also want to bring our filter backwash water. This is reclaimed water that can come back into the plant. And as it goes into this pump station, we've got two traveling screens that take out any large objects to protect the pumps and the equipment that we have inside the pump station. And then four vertical turbine pumps, two smaller pumps and two larger pumps, and that the two smaller pumps allow you to meet the low flow conditions so that if you are in the winter months, when you don't need to put out as much water, you don't want to waste a lot of energy by having just only a little bigger pump. So this allows you to meet the demands that you currently face. But in the future, you could have four larger pumps. And essentially, each of them is about 16 to 17 MGD. So even with one pump out of service, you could really push 50 MGD. So that's why this pump station allows you to meet not just current needs, but future needs. And then different fouling arrangements, flow meter, and then that connects into what you see the existing plant with the three basins, the east, the west, and the south. You might recognize some of the features on the existing site. This is the old suction well over here. You could see it started to border the old plant with the existing raw water pump station. This is the existing outfall where that big storm sewer line that the city public works put in not too long ago. And we located the pump station generally within the area that was originally acquired by the utility as an easement. In the dashed line over here, you can see that's the old easement that was acquired by the utility. And the pump station, we moved it a little bit west to provide more protection from the lake. So we pushed it roughly another 10 feet. We're trying to optimize the location of the pump station. You can see my cursor moving. This is sort of the limits of the pump station to try and optimize it so that we are as far away from the lake as possible for protection. But we're not building into the hill. You can see this is kind of a elevation contours and you can see here, we start to go up the hill 11 all the way to 32. So we're trying to minimize costs by excavating into the hill, which would also mean a retaining wall. So that's why we kind of optimize where to locate this pump station. What you see here is the electrical transformer that we would have to get from a lion energy to power the new pump station. I'm going to get into a little more details of the layout of the pump station. You can see our two traveling screens for pumps. And essentially, this is the electrical room and this is the house to backup generators inside the pump station. This is a small chemical room for potassium permanganate feed. And this is extra space, you know, a pump station of this size, you you need some room for normal on M operation and maintenance, store some items and in the future, if you wanted to use this for additional chemical systems or anything extra, this this space could be could be utilized. We've also allowed for kind of an access roadway that wraps around the station for access and for maintenance. So this this layout sort of optimizes not making a lot of changes on site with the utilities, not building into the hill, staying away from the lake as much as possible, so that we can build in this resiliency and the long term flexibility. One other thing I wanted to add, you know, in the future, if the utility decides that, you know, you want to have a brand new treatment plan, you know, a couple of miles away, this pump station is very much standalone with with its intake system. It's not dependent on anything on site. And the pumps are designed so that another stage can be added to any of these pumps to put out more pressure so that we can go further away from that we have enough energy to be able to push this water further out into into the city. So a lot of kind of independent setup, so that in the future, if the utility decides over time to to locate the plan, you know, further into the city. Yes, you can you comment on the how how relative to lake level where are the motors for the palm snow in this new design? So so the finished floor is going to be roughly about about 10 feet or so above that. This is the nice thing about vertical turbine pumps. It allows you to put the motor up on the finished floor. And the actual impeller would be submerged into into the wet well. And I had forgotten that. Thank you. Yep. Yeah, definitely. I think I might have a section that might get into some of these elevations, but certainly both from a lake level as well as we also looked at the historical 100 year flood elevation in the area wanted to make sure that the motor is well, well above above those those historical levels. Excellent. Thank you. Yep. This is kind of a layout specifically of the building. I mentioned the four pumps. This is has the two screens. This is a little chemical room for potassium permanganate. This is for zebra muscle control sodium permanganate, I should say. And then these is the two backup generators. So if you lose power at the plant or the pump station, you'd have the ability to power a couple of pumps to maintain flow into the system. And then this is the electrical room that has the motor control center as well as the variable frequency drives for for the the four pumps. I mentioned this before for the new pump station. It's located obviously within the park within our park. It shows again the kind of the current limits for the existing easement. We are going a little bit outside the easement in those red lines. And again, we main reason for that is we push the pump station a little bit further west to allow that access driveway to the east and to get it away from the from the lake. But generally speaking, you can see this is not much bigger and not much different than the original easement that was acquired by the utility, which is the 60 by 120 area. If you are interested in the architectural considerations that are the architectural design, our architect looked closely at some of the existing buildings on site, not just in terms of the exterior facade and the brick, but also looking at the different roof systems that do give the plant, you know, very much kind of a unique look to it. And given we're locating this in the middle of the park with a lot of residents, residents and, you know, overlooking this pump station, we want to make sure that that's that we're matching not just the exterior look of the other building, but also providing something nice for people to look at. So generally, you know, you know, masonry exterior glass block windows at cast stone accents and then and then, you know, for the foundation concrete foundation, obviously, we did a lot of, you know, we relied heavily on technology and, you know, 3D design, prepared different schematics as we presented this to to the city public works, planning and zoning. So I'm just going to go through a couple of views of the exterior of the building, what this would look like. This is kind of from the from the pump station side of things are from the plant, I should say, if you're standing here where the plant is the lake to the east, you could see what the on the south side of the building what it would look like. And then I'm just going to give through on the other side here, you know, what the exterior of the building would look like. This is on the east side. And then this is looking over over on the high point of the park looking down on the on the finished roof and the exterior of the building. So I'm just moving on to schedule. We've we've completed the draft, but we wanted to incorporate the input of the city planning zoning, as well as the utility staff to make sure we we addressed all those concerns as well as the overall cost of the project. We have received input from DNR throughout really the project they were involved in a number of early design workshops. We did get comments from them that we we've addressed with them on the on the design, mainly DNR is concerned about the screens, the pumps from a from a permitting perspective. We've also met with planning zoning they're really have no objections. We've met with the Public Services Commission, which ultimately would have to approve this just given their there is a rate impact. And they really thus far have had no objections on the project. You know, obviously, they still need to review the different elements of the project and and and provide input. And the same thing with the Army Corps of Engineers anytime you have a major infrastructure project in the lake, the Army Corps of Engineers also needs to be to be involved in so far they've had also no no objections as well. So as we embark on the detailed design, we have a very good design concept that we that we can utilize. We feel very comfortable with the schedule. About a seven month design schedule detailed design schedule that CDM Smith and Donahue will be collaborating on. We will have multiple design workshops with utility staff, probably after the kickoff again in January, March, and then in May, before we finalize this design and issue out for permitting to the different agencies, because we've had input from the different permitting agencies, none of them have been surprised or will be surprised when this shows up on their desk with a permit application next year. And, you know, we've we've always thrown around kind of the spring of 2022 to the fall of 2024, about a two and a half year construction schedule. And this is very, very doable. Essentially, we're allowing two seasons for the contractor to to complete the intake work, which is which is very doable and consistent with what we've seen from, you know, with other large intake projects on on the lake. So with that, I know I went through a lot of slides very quickly, be happy to take any questions or comments from the group. I have a couple of questions. Sure. With the potential for adding another stage to the vertical turbine pumps in the future for increased lift, will the switch gear and associated cabling for the motors be sufficient so that we don't have to install new switch gear and new cabling and so on? That's a very, very good question, Jerry. So the items, if we do have to go to the motors would have to be replaced. The variable frequency drive would have to be replaced. But the electric service into the pump station and the cabling, we would size those to be able to handle the additional the additional power requirements. But but some some components will have to be replaced when when we go to have a higher horsepower motor like the VFD in the motors. But we the major items that we don't want to replace like the electrical duct bank and the cabling, we would want to design for for for those higher horsepower. Great. I wouldn't want to have the larger motors installed right away. Anyway, that'd be less efficient. We don't need that. Exactly. Traveling screens. Bill, Joel, how much experience do we have with traveling screens? Any? We currently don't have any screening on any of the suction sides of our pump or on the suction wall itself. We sat through a webinar with a few of the folks from the screen manufacturers. So we've got a little bit of knowledge, no hands on working knowledge. They are there to protect the pumps from any kind of large debris that may enter into the shore well. Some of the research stuff that we've seen and done and saying that they're practical. There are necessities to protect the pumps and the impellers. The only suggestions I would have for you, based on my experience with traveling screens is that you will have maintenance associated with them, you probably have to you probably have to do cleaning in the screen wall to clean out zebra mussels on a probably an annual basis I would that. And Wisconsin DNR will have considerations for how the aquatic creatures are returned back to the lake. Just something to think about. It's it's I have every power plant on the lake has traveling screens. So it's nothing unmanageable. But if you don't have experience with him, I don't want you to be surprised. Okay. And that's all the questions or comments I have. I'd love to take it take credit for the technical questions that Mark had there. But I've got one on the location of the of a new building and things like that. What are we talking about as far as protection fencing that type of thing? Whereas hasn't been been a topic that we discussed as of yet? It's an excellent question, Jerry. And I neglected to to to mention that. So I apologize. Um, if you can still see my screen, this is the site plan for the pump station and the transformer. We're proposing a screen that would wrap around the entire site, including the access road around the pump station. So you can see the X is that essentially represents, you know, wrap it around a fence with gates near the the existing gravel road that would give the utility protection and potentially could also be access with the utilities brothers and sisters of the park department. If they wanted to access that, you know, we're we're cognizant of, you know, we're right near this Frisbee disc golf course with with, you know, you know, potentially, you know, you know, park folks near the pump station. So we wanted to provide that that fence protection. And if I'll add on to that, the plan that I have, the security systems like a door fob system of intrusion alarms built into the SCADA system. We also have security cameras on probably the four corners of the building and all of that information we brought back to the operator control room. Jerry, this is David Bebel, director of Public Works for the city. I'm at the council chambers. I just got a quick question. If you don't mind that with the building, do you do you have enough head headroom for rigging and ultimately future maintenance? If you have to pull pump shaft impellers, the traveling screen, for instance, that you necessarily don't have to have a future roof penetration to do maintenance. Yes, they thank you. That's a good question. Yes, if you did not include a vertical section of the pump station, but we do have a bridge crane that would allow lifting of pump motor components as well as components of the traveling screen, lift them and and be able to to take them out of this overhead door. There we are not planning on any access, essentially skylights through the top of this pump station. Everything is being removed with with a bridge crane system. Given the traveling screens, because they could be pretty long. That's that exactly is what dictated both the height as well as the size of the bridge crane. The system we're using mark is an evaqua, which that used to be part of US filter Siemens water technology and then evaqua acquired the the traveling screen. That was that is one of the manufacturer we're talking to. And we we actually that was one of the key. That's what controlled the sizing of the bridge crane system is looking at the longest dimension for when you're disassembled a bridge crane that control both the weight as well as the height restriction. Okay, so Bill, there's future maintenance on your overhead crane required to handle right now. Yeah, we we do have a bridge crane in our highlights and all the pump stations now and we have to have them inspected annually. Actually, we're pretty familiar with those traveling screens. As I recall, too, they do come apart in panels. Yeah, they do. But if you ever want to get at the lower bearings, can I answer your question, David? Yes, thank you. You were kind of in and out there for a little bit. Can't hear you, Joe. It looks like Joe is inside now. You're not in a car. We can't hear you. You're not muted, but we can't hear you. Joe may need to select a different speaker. Now we did it. Dave, are you still there? Jerry? Were you talking to me? I just wanted to have any other questions. I don't have a I don't have a question. I have a comment about the project and its importance to the to our city and our and our long term viability and future resiliency for our water supply system. So, you know, when it's appropriate, I'd like to make some comments on on my support for this project and the importance, not only to our community, but the long term viability of our our water system. Thank you. Appreciate that. You can't hear you, Joe. Technology. No, I just want to thank the utility staff, Joe, Bill and their entire team. I mean, this, this further patience and, you know, and, you know, despite, you know, when we started this project, I think a month after that, we got hit with COVID and and and they they've made this project very easy on the team. Given a lot of good comments, a lot of ideas. It's been a very good collaborative effort. The layout that you see up on the screen, by the way, is not the first layout we came up with. And but I think it is the best layout that would meet the multiple challenges and factors in this with this project. So and that's that's what happens in a preliminary design, you really need to you know, no idea is bad idea, and you need to consider all the different ideas. So that's what made this project interesting and great team to to to work on it. So just wanted to say thank you to everyone. I have one more question with the you're collaborating with DPW or parks as far as the movement of the frisbee golf course. And that stuff, I know one of the things in your slides shows a different, different location. So has that been approved already by the city or Um, the the that's a very good question. Thank you, Jerry. And I again, I would want to just compliment Dave and everyone at public works in the city for for working with the utility staff on and CDM Smith and Donahue. The only thing we're relocating is one of the holes for the golf course would be relocated. Um, and and, you know, we're trying to minimize minimize impact, you know, on the overall use of the golf course, this would have to maintain access during construction. I don't know that we can say it's been, you know, right now, I think I think there are no objections or concerns. But we are planning to under the leadership of Joe. We're trying to we're gonna make a presentation, perhaps to the park district board, just to make sure. But I don't want to I don't know that we can say we have all the approvals. But it's just one one hole that we would be relocating. And and we have some ideas on on where that hole would be relocated to. And it's something we can work through during detailed design. But yeah, I think I think we are going to make a presentation or a proposal essentially to the park district board essentially that would approve this if I'm not mistaken. Joe, is that correct? Well, first of all, do can you guys hear me now? We can hear you now. Okay, sorry about that. I think as far as relocating the whole, the Public Works Department has indicated they would prefer us to work with them about that issue. So I think the next step is for I'm ruined myself to make a presentation to the common council, the mayor had requested that we do that at the appropriate time. And I think once we have the issues addressed that the board may raise today, it would be the appropriate time to make that presentation to council as the next step. So I think one of the big approvals we have yet to gain is the construction authorization from the Public Service Commission. And that is more like a six to eight month process. So that's going to be the big issue for next year. Once we have final design, we have to get that into the PSC for their very detailed review and authorization. One of the things they're especially looking at is expenditure. What are we spending money on? And can it be justified? And I think I wanted to take a little step back and just say that we began this project with a targeted construction cost of about $29 million. And that was determined, looking at rate impact, looking at the cost of funds and looking at what we thought was a reasonable estimate. So we started out with the project and some core needs. What do we need? And the core need is the primary new intake. And that led into, you know, well, what do we want? And we had a lot of other items that all of which are beneficial. And I think then we rounded back to what can we now afford? And I think what you see here today is really the culmination of all those issues. I think we're getting what we need. I think we're getting what we can afford. And I think when we bid out the project, we'll want to include several alternatives just to see, you know, maybe we can maybe we're in a beneficial bidding environment, and we can afford a few of the other items that we might want, but don't necessarily need at this point in time. So I think that's kind of important to to realize and the funding is running in parallel with this project. It's such a large project that we have looked at various funding options and are continuing to do that. And one that's emerged is the FEMA brick, you know, building resilient infrastructure program. You know, that's the grant program of up to 75% of the project cost. Might we receive any grant money on this project? Yeah, we don't know, but that would have a big impact on the budget and what we can afford. But all those things are still running in parallel, along with our local input, working with the public works department on on the impact of all rest park. And, you know, still tying this in with the future of the utility and where, where we want to head down the road. So I think, you know, a lot of work, although the preliminary design now looks, you know, fairly simple, a lot of work has gone into kind of this, what I feel is really an optimized solution for the project. Great. Any other questions for Omron? Not for me. Thank you. Tom, anything on your end? Oh, I'm good. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate your time and efforts. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you, everyone. Have a great day and great evening. Thank you. Hey, warm. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Omron. Thank you. All right. Well, thank you, gentlemen. Moving on. Next on our agenda is the election of officers for the coming year. Tom has been reelected to the board by the common council. So we now have a sleet of officers for the next year. Any thoughts or comments? I think you're doing a bang-up job, Jerry. Second. You're doing a great job, Secretary. Well, we need some motions to, I guess, I don't know if there's anybody else in the audience or anybody else that wants to chime in. Otherwise, we need a motion to provide a sleet of officers for election. Well, I move that Jerry continues as the president. I second that. And I would move that Mark continues as Secretary. I'll second that. All right. We've got two motions out there. We'll combine those two and all in favor of those two motions. I just ask, are there any other nominations, any other nominations or any other nomination? Hearing none, all in favor of the two motions, say aye. Aye. Chair votes aye. All right, Joe, you got those down in minutes. Well, Mr. Secretary, you got those down. Yeah, I'm taking notes. I'll send my notes to Jerry and Joe. Joe can put them as he wishes. Okay. All right, financial reports. We have to look at the minutes. Oh, I'm sorry. A couple of minutes. I skipped right over there. A couple of minutes of our September 21st meeting. I move that we accept them as written. I will second that. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Chair votes aye. Now moving on to financial reports. Everybody should have received a copy of the financial reports by email. Any questions or comments for Joe? I had none. Anything from you? No, I'm good. Thank you. Okay. I just make my normal comment about I just, you know, in fact, we still have a positive return on rate base. For me, it's just that's important that we maintain that. When does our rate increase going to affect Joe? October 1st. Okay. So I did already. Yes. Right. So those numbers should go up a little bit. Although our usage is way down. So, all right. Is there a motion to approve the financial reports? I shall move to Joe. Jerry, you got that? I've got that. Is there a second? I'll second it. Second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Have you all signed the approval of vouchers? Showed you to get everybody's signature? I have it now, yes. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. Superintendents report. Joe? Well, I'll start with operations briefly as presented by Vice-president Swaringian. We did see an increase in September of about 2% on our high list pumpage compared to last year. So that's a nice increase. That's going to offset a little bit of the revenue decrease we've seen earlier in the year. So we're happy with that outcome. I don't think otherwise we had a fairly normal September. A lot of ongoing maintenance. We had a fair amount of activity out at the George of Standpipe as we're working with the contractor who's been painting that and, you know, making plans for what we're doing with some of the equipment out there as well. Nothing else that really is outstanding for September. We're just a lot of ongoing maintenance in the plant, getting ready for winter. We did finish the repairs on the shore wall, protection, shoreline protection. And you've seen photos of that and that was extremely successful. So we're very happy with that outcome. In distribution, we're winding down on this season's water main projects, Seaman Avenue and Geely Avenue. We did not have any main brakes for September. Several several taps, six inch tap for a second service at the Badger loss department. That's a large connection. Some typical I'm sorry. We did have three main brakes and I was looking at different format here, South 19th and at South 22nd at Custer and Meade. And we did replace the valve in conjunction with one of those brakes as well as customer relations and fiscal. We had a busy month. We continue to see fewer people coming to the pay window, a little more on drop boxes, a little more on electronic payments. We do have fewer customers paying due to lack of a disconnection program. We're hoping that's remedied here as we put delinquent bills on the tax roll and wait for people to respond to that. So we do have more outstanding inflections that then would be normal. Again, that's due to not having water disconnection in light of the pandemic emergency. So have fewer calls coming into the office, a little less activity that way, but it's starting to pick up and become more normalized. You can see the service sector back out on the road about the same mileage as last year now. And just a lot of other ongoing activity. Did have a fair amount of social media interest in that. George, I have a sandpipe painting project that people are interested in that. And if you haven't been out there, it really looks nice, even better than in the photos. And that's completed. Well, now they're working on the interior. Right. OK. But the exterior is nearly complete. Yes. That's the extent of the superintendent's report for today. All right. I would move to a clue. I can second that. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Moving on to number four, water, law, water, improvements in the project presentation on preliminary design we've had. We need to take any action on that. No action requested at this time. OK. So do you have any comments on that? No, I don't, Jerry. OK, thank you. Thank you for your attendance and input on it. All right. You see some structural analysis. Yeah, this is a project that. We began by doing some some well-deserved maintenance. We're cleaning the the east base. And this is the large base and that's exposed right on the shore of Lake Michigan. We did a good cleaning project. And kind of as when you started cleaning an old car, we saw a lot of concern once we had it clean. A lot of cracking that had propagated and become larger than we maybe were aware of before we cleaned it. So Bill and I discussed the need to do a more thorough analysis, structural analysis of that 1959 structure. And as Bill was really in the trenches with all right, Smith, the firm that did that analysis, I've asked him to write a summary, which you have, and then to just briefly walk walk us through the summary here today. So I'll turn it over to Bill on that analysis. I can do this best. I'm going to pull it up on my screen so it might look a little goofy. I'm going to be reading it through. But I won't be able to see myself on camera. So so part of what they found with this report is that the structure is never mind. They're going to allow me to share. There you go. Very good. Everybody can see it on the screen now. Yeah, part of the report was the look at the structure itself and its integrity. I just want to say right off the bat that they feel that the structure is not in any kind of danger of falling into the lake in any kind of immediate time frame. They they felt that it's still it's still structurally intact repairs that they feel like you don't need to be a direct air point kind of giving them a different grade, how severe versus how not severe they are, they've broken it down into moderate, critical and just concrete surface repair. And what was great about the report in its entirety is that they gave linear footage to these cracks. So when we are ready to move forward with doing this repair work and bidding it out, the contractor should be able to bid out based on this footage. And we should be able to get some very good numbers. We use some of the photographs of some of these areas that they felt were pretty bad. You can see some of these critical cracks here. The youth is on the ceiling from looking up from the lower level. You can see the crack. If everybody see my cursor, if that's showing up on the screen. You can see these cracks here and they've identified those as an area where there's critical cracking. So the water flows through these windows to the upper level. This corner here you could see is where they installed the last American liner in the mid 90s. That is completely failed and that's liner sluffs off into the settling basin. It does not pass through filtration. We do not witness this liner material even being in or on top of the filter. So I think what happens is some of these particles and materials just settle out in the settling basin. But this would need to be removed for the future as it's failed. You can see the spaulding here in the corner with some exposed rebar. So that is not good. You can see here, this is a critical crack. They identified a crack that has occurred again. The packaging work has come a long way. My understanding from R.A. Smith's materials and products that are used are a lot better quality that were used in 80s and 90s. So that's good. This would be a crack that they would target for repairing. You can see this effervescence, which is the calcium coming out of the concrete. And they've identified that that's never a good thing. And there's other photos with this on the exterior and the interior. Most of these are interior of the basin. Here again, you can see this liner that was installed as failed and the concrete here has spalled out. And that is not good. Here, you can see the exterior conditions of just a section of the wall. So this would be on the south end of the base settling basin wall outside along the lake shore. What you see here, these were the cracks previously repaired and the remnants of that. And you can see as we walk up and get closer, some of the deterioration over time. And I thought that these were some really cool shots here. We asked them to, well, we had documentation of the previous concrete repair work done after the work in the mid 90s and pre, and then they overlapped with current day with these markings. And you can see as a comparison, those areas have begun to fail again. And you're probably wondering, well, why is this blue and green and orange? Well, those are identifying the different levels of failure. So the green being the moderate, blue being the critical and the orange being like exposed rebar and those are very problem areas, very much problem areas. Again, another old photo and then a new that they identified all these failures, more photos of these same areas here. But I'll move quickly on to this. So another great thing that was done in this report was the 3D LiDAR scanning. So with this paint and the 3D imaging technology, they could take images like with survey equipment and then project that electronically in digital form, all these cracks. So what you're seeing here is a screenshot of one of the drawings that I put into this Word document where they're identifying like these would be the cracks that they would need to make repairs to that they've identified. And then associate that with the linear footage that we talked about earlier in this document. So I really thought that that was kind of neat that they're able to do that for all the bit work. And it gives you a good visual of like what's actually happening there. And surprisingly, how many areas of the structure and pretty poor condition when you think about it as a whole. And this is another screenshot of a drawing that they produced showing like some of the spaulding areas that with the shaded region and then cracking again. And this is a little bit more detail from a surface view. So this would be, you know, a floor level. This would be like your ceiling level on top of the Centrelink basin. And again, these lines are cracks that they've identified with their imaging equipment. This gets a little bit more technology driven here. These are those colors displayed on like real life photograph of the structure itself. So it almost kind of brings it to life a little bit with these drawings. I apologize, I know it's hard to maybe see some of these. I had no way of like really trying to blow it up for any kind of great view in this kind of a format. But hopefully you can see and make them out a little bit. Bill, I'm curious about one thing. The ceiling with all this cast in place or this span creed or what kind of a ceiling material is it? I believe it's a span creed on the top. There's panels. And then the second one here would be that would have been poured in place. And because that would have been like a, that would have been the ceiling to the lower level with the floor of the second level. This is a double-decker settling basin. That's just a point of curiosity for me as well. Sure. So part of what we looked at the RA Smith to do then was also to give us some alternatives. So we wanted them to break out different alternatives that included what we needed to do. We do nothing. We do just these repairs, A, B and C, just B and C repairs and so on. They came up with five, six different alternatives and associated that with like a accepted life expectancy if we were to do those alternatives and then put costs to those alternatives and then the increase in life expectancy. So the first one was pretty easy if we do nothing. You just decide we're just gonna let it go. This isn't worth doing anything with. They've associated 15 year life expectancy with that and there's no initial cost. Alternative two, here you can see that they've broken it down, giving us a certain amount of items, their costs on how it would be bid and the scope of work on what we would do. It would be say to just remove the liner and target the moderate, the moderate to critical cracking that we see and make those injection repairs and any kind of spaulding. And then they've given us a 25 year life expectancy to that work. The next level up, we would say increase the repair work, which the costs would associate with added increase but then they're giving it a 30 year life expectancy. So we're going to spend more money to get five more years life expectancy out of that. And then they continue to have done that repair, all deficiency, reline, interior, 50 years. That would be say the platinum scope of work. You're basically trying to rehab a whole settling base and to try and get it to like new conditions, which comes at a very hefty price here at $2 million. What would it cost to build a new one? Yep, that was actually one of the alternatives. We wanted to look at that. And I believe that's here based in a reconstruction. So then you would see a 75 year life expectancy at $2.9 million. So obviously numbers would say we are pretty close to building a new one, why would we want to do that, right? That being said, we also, you look here at this table with all these alternatives and they break it down. You've got your column for years. You've got your alternatives here at each top of these columns. And if we were to do say alternative two with these activities listed up here in 25 years, they would suggest that we would be looking at a base and reconstruction effort. And then again, if you've dropped down another 65 years, we would be in the same position to have to do more repair work after any construction. Any questions on this table? I know it's, I move maybe a little quickly and some of it might be hard to read and understand. It took me a little bit to try and figure out what they were presenting with this table. But once I did it, it was actually pretty logical. If you can follow it here with how they dropped down each of the alternatives in each column. And then with the years, so if we were to do nothing, they're saying in 15 years, we should be looking at base and reconstruction. If we were to, let's see here. Base and reconstruction next year in 35 or 40 years, we would need to be looking at doing some repair work. And looking at all of the alternatives and discussions. What they would recommend based on repairs, extended service life and cost would be alternative number two. I feel like that would be the biggest bang for our buck moving forward if we were to keep the settling basin in service, bring it to a hundred year life expectancy in all, it is 50 plus years old. The cost that they're saying associated with that is $505,000. So after that, Joe and I had some internal discussions and I don't know if Joe wants to speak to that a little bit or if you want me to continue or. Well, yeah, I'll jump in with a couple of things. You know, we have two other basins. One is older than the East basin. We have a buried West basin that dates to 1929 and 1939. However, it's not exposed, it's buried. And we could do a similar analysis on the interior structure, but not on the exterior. And then we have our South basin, which was built in, I want to say 2004, I could be a year or two off on that, but it is a basin that uses newer technology and has a smaller footprint. And we built that basin for a little over $3 million quite a while ago. I think the East basin is our lowest performer of the three. It doesn't seem to do as good of a job of settling water. These are pretreatment basins, so they're basically receiving raw water and we begin the initial treatment process, but the East basin does the worst compared to the other two. We have all kinds of projects, all kinds of investment needs. I think we wanted to ensure that there wasn't any sort of imminent structural failure coming here. We didn't really think that, but I think we now have that assurance. I think as we're looking at different elements in the treatment process, if we invest in the East basin to get 25 more years out of it, at the end of 25 more years, it's basically a hundred-year-old structure. Well, one of the things as we just are looking at, some of our core processes, and taking a little step back, I think it would be good. I don't see, and Bill and I agreed on this, that we don't really see an urgency here to rush into invest a lot in the East basin, right within months, certainly. I'd prefer to take a little bit of a step back and we now have this knowledge. We have good information to bid it out on when we're ready to. I'd like us to start a little more focus on other parts of the water treatment plant. The raw water improvement project, we're basically building a section of the future water treatment plant. We're taking out the shore well, the intakes, the low-listation, and we're building new. You know, we have some other elements that are aging as well, and we need to now start focusing on what are we gonna do with these other elements and during what timeframe. So I think kind of in that light, again, I don't feel, I wanted the board to see the results of this analysis, but I don't feel we're in a situation where we need to spend a lot of money on the East basin next year. We did budget, we didn't budget $500,000, we budgeted $200 something, but even there, I just don't see, and tonight we're not requesting any approval for any expenditure on the East basin. I think we just want to get a good sense out that it's another treatment process that's in need of some investment at the right time. And I don't feel like we're quite certain yet at this point, what is the right time? I assume that any repair of the nature that we're talking about would be O&M versus capital. It would be, yes. And I'm also looking at the estimates for scaffolding, mobilization harnesses at $37,000, and that seems light unless they're planning on using personnel less. So just a comment there. Yeah, I think I found the report reassuring, concrete, as I look at that structure, I don't see imminent failure coming. It is a raw water structure. So some leakage is not desirable, but it doesn't result in a water quality issue because it's raw water that it's containing and treating. So I think R.A. Smith does an excellent concrete analysis. They're the firm that analyzed the Taylor Hill structure and we did invest significantly in the masonry out at Taylor Hill. We still have more to do out there because we haven't yet addressed the roof structure or the tank itself, which is an old riveted steel tank dating to 1930. But I think for this evening, I just asked Bill to really summarize the R.A. report and get that out to the board. And I think we have comfort in waiting for a year or so to decide what we wanna do. That's not affecting our treated water. I mean, Taylor Hill was treated water, but here it is raw water, really. You know, if the East Basin were taken offline, we can function perfectly fine with the other two basins, but it gives us that redundancy and resilience that's certainly helpful and beneficial. Any other questions or comments for Joe? What, Bill? None for me. None for me. Excellent job, excellent job. Mr. Chairman, David Bebel again. If I could ask just a question along that, you have the Raw Waste Water Intake Prod, not Waste Water, Water Intake Project. Going along this, you're looking and enjoy, I think you're making some great points is that you're looking at not only just that project, but future projects. And I guess really my question then would be, do you have like a long range facility plan that gives planning horizons for, let's say, the next five to 10 years in terms of capital projects, 10 to 20 years and then 25 and beyond and kind of tying that in, because in one of the things is with the new intake, you're gonna have the ability to increase capacity and what types of other improvements then could that trigger at the plant as well long-term from a capital planning standpoint, I guess. Well, what we have is, we recently completed a 50 year water demand study, which is kind of the key element. You can't do master planning if you don't really know what you're aiming at or what the target is. That was the key step that we completed and the results were a little surprising. They showed a very moderate growth and water consumption, even assuming we pick up wholesale customers that we might not pick up for decades, like Plymouth or Aldridge Chemical or Cedar Grove, a lot of these smaller communities. So the first thing we have is a good sense of where we're heading in terms of a 50 year demand study. We've done some preliminary master plan analysis. Some of that was tied in with the raw water analysis to try to determine which elements of the plant we should include in that. Should we keep the existing shore well or rehab it? Should we keep existing low lift pumping station? So some of that planning is really culminated in what we have in the raw water project. Now that we're kind of in sync with that and that's moving along, we've got a need to start master planning a future water treatment plant and what is that going to look at? And we're not talking five years, but more like a 20 plus year timeframe. So we have five year plans of capital investments and capital projects and the plant. And as you're well aware, these are ongoing infrastructure investment needs that each year, some are easy to plan for and some reveal themselves as they go along. So one of our goals coming up is to begin that master planning for a future water treatment plant itself. You know, as we said, the raw water project is a portion of a future plant. So if all goes well, we'll have that completed and operational in several years. And then the next logical question as well, where is the future treatment process going to be and when? And the existing plant has good lifetime left in it. It's got produces as good of, it's not better water than any plant in Lake Michigan, but we know it's not going to last forever. So we do want to begin that process very soon. You know, we're a landlocked site, that's one challenge. You know, we always are looking at potential property for a future plant, but we haven't identified that yet. That's another challenge. And with some newer technology available, it may be possible to shoehorn a future plant on our current site with some very significant modifications. So I guess all of those are things that are somewhat in progress and still coming. And I think what we're seeing in the raw water project is the first aspect of that. And that's been in the works for 10 years. It's been a long time coming. It's a lot of money and, you know, it's really the FEMA brick. And I hate to say that too much because, you know, we have no idea the chance of receiving any grant money. It's probably fairly low, but it's not zero. So it's definitely worth pursuing. You know, if we were to qualify for a grant like that, that would allow us to do a lot more projects a lot sooner. But if we don't, you know, then we have impact on our ratepayers that is the prime consideration always. All right, David, did I answer your question? Yes, thank you. Moving on, APS-C code changes, Joe? None for this month. Okay, is there a motion to approve the vouchers? So, Wush. I second it. Those are the vouchers for everything. For the slide? Joe, those are the vouchers that we already saw passed around, correct? That's correct. Right. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Get our votes signed. Review plans regarding COVID-19 reduction. I don't have a lot of new things to report there. We're continuing our plans. We're, seems like every week or two, we have a staff member with a possible contact. We're following up on all those. And we're doing everything we can to keep the virus out of our workplace and to minimize the risk if it were to enter our workplace. We will be doing that for the foreseeable future. Have we made a determination on the pay window? We did close the pay window for this week and we'll see what happens with the county numbers. I think one of the challenges with the pay window which was revealed was that our customers are coming into that space and they're not masking even though they're requested to do so. And that's something where we're not attempting to enforce that on people coming in. But we did close it for this week and we'll continue to review that. And hopefully the county numbers will start to improve and we'll be back with that open very soon. Okay. Next on the agenda is setting your time and the date for our next meeting. Third Monday would be the 16th of November. That works for me. Good. Joe, how does that work for you? Yep, that's fine. All right, it works for me. So our next meeting will take place November 16th, pretty 30 again. And we hope it will still be virtual. Yeah. Bill, thank you for all your input. Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Good to be here. Thank you for being here, Bill. All right, with that, we need a motion to adjourn. So moved. I'll second it. All right, all in favor say aye and get up and leave. Thank you gentlemen for your time. Be able to through still there. Thank you.