 Thanks to great, so climate and climate change and how to change that has come, has arrived in the middle of our society and Tom is going to talk about the role of digitalization and in the climate protection. Okay, now it's working. Yeah, all fine. And just a brief thing beforehand. We have a brief technical break. We're very sorry for that. We're going to have some intermission activities here. And let me ask you questions about the sleeping habits of the audience. Show of hands, please. Who has slept more than the required six hours? Show of hands, please. Oh, that's great. So who has slept between four and six hours? Yeah, less people. Two hours or less? All right, that's okay. Now the talk is going to start. Okay, very awake audience. It's nice. Technical mistakes or problems are always an ever occurring problem for us at Fridays for the future. And I'm a participant for Fridays of the Futures for about a year. And I came today. Please delete the internet. No, no, just small change, a small joke. Of course, we're not against digitalization. No, no, no, we really like to use digitalization ourselves. Here's a demo from Berlin with Greta Thunberg, who had, who held a very powerful speech one year ago. And that was very inspiring for me. So that I wanted to become part of this movement and not just part of the general climate movement. And what do we want? We talk about climate justice. So it's a typical chanting on the demonstrations. Climate justice now. And of course the 1.5 degrees objective is something that a lot of people talk about. But it's still very abstract. And what you can do of course is to look actually into the literature of climate justice. And we still try to figure out what climate justice specifically means. So there's still some room for interpretation. But there are also other topics that we care about. And the climate protection that we do is anti-Nazis and feminist. And we also have some additional demands for Germany, which have received some response. So we demand a zero, so netto-zero, two emissions. And so if you if you remove trees, you should also replant trees so that you always balance things out. And that's our demand for 2035. And because of the current trends, we think it should actually be earlier now. We also demand getting out of coal power by 2030. And we demand 100% renewable energy sources until 2035. And we consider digitalization to be essential and necessary for this. And what we demand until the end of this year is the end of subventions for fossil fuels. And that one quarter of all coal power plants shall be shut down. And all of this should happen as quickly as possible. And the CO2 tax should be increased to 180 euros per ton as quickly as possible. So we did a lot of agenda setting. So these type of pictures are something that a lot of people have seen for the first time this year. And I actually saw this myself three times this year live. And it's it induces so much rage and fury to see these things and to talk to people who actually live near these excavation sites. So this image, this is from the Hambach excavation site next to the Hambach forest just to really illustrate the local destruction of nature due to coal excavations. But of course here we want to talk about digitalization. We like to call on, we like to refer to the science. We, so there's the scientists for futures as the science, the group scientists for future. And they said that digitalization is, they say that digitalization is not the problem, but that it is a tool that we must use properly. If it only serves the economy and the increase of economic activity, then of course we will have a rise in emissions. But this is not what we should aim for. And it's important to really use digitalization properly in the interest of nature. And this is not only and we're using digitalization for our own purposes. And but in my opinion, the economic factor is one of the greatest victories for the Fridays for the futures movement. And we are a lot of people so and what is really amazing is that these protests happened in more than 600 locations. So we had a lot of technical troubles to have the audio at all of these demonstrations and to make sure that everything is coordinated. So so what I consider the positive political message is that that there was this survey. We see that a lot of the population in Germany is very much for climate protection. And I think this is really impressive. And I don't know how the current numbers look like. And tears like a little equation that I thought about it yesterday. It should not only be about economic economy, economic activity. It should not only be about surveillance. So if we have if you have less surveillance, then of course we have less emissions. And this is something we can all in this room together agree on and fight for. So in total, we had tried we tried to not follow this these steps, but instead we we tried to stay under the 1.5 degrees limit. And we went to the streets many, many times this year. And I have to admit that this talk well it that this talk has been following the tendency of first procrastinate and then improvise. Because after powering through all these weeks for the strikes, I'm like exhausted. And this is not only about the strikes themselves, but also about the communication. And if you look at these people who are on this picture, all of them or pretty much all of them have been there every week. And it's not like just one big demonstration, but just but recurring demonstrations every week. And we see that there's a lot of messages. And it's very difficult to filter what is good information, what is bad information. And in some cities we have decided not to go on the streets every week. And we have to improve this. And I want to include this here, because maybe here are people in this room who have a solution for better communications in the movement. But of course, so easy it will probably not be, probably it will not be so simple because this is how Fridays for the future looks in Germany. And it's very hard to see the forest for the trees. And the communication with such a massive number of people is really difficult. And there are a lot of critical points. And one example is like the coordination of this talk, so that I am giving this talk is actually a privilege for myself. And that I am that I have grown up in Germany and that I have a bit more experience than other people. But but it's also because I know specific people and of course we can't coordinate with everyone in the movement who actually stands here and is giving this talk. And of course there are disputes internally. But through these disputes we actually grow. But people who actually go onto the streets, those are the people who just said like one year ago, yeah, something has to be done about the climate. But now, but now people actually start questioning economic systems. They really grew and we reach out to international organizations and and now it's young people have learned to give themselves a voice that hasn't been heard before. We wouldn't be us if we weren't just continuing and I'm going to reiterate that tomorrow there's going to be another demonstration and I'm going to participate and I will be very very happy about every single person who joins us. I just really really rushed through my talk right now. But maybe that's not so bad after all. We're going to be here. We're going to be very happy to be here at events like this. What other things are we planning for next year? As I already told you, we are concerned about coal a lot and next year there's that in four. That's a coal plant in NRV who burns a stone coal and this coal isn't being mined in Germany. Maybe some of you remember that Steinmeier gave a very moving ceremony for the last bit of coal mine in Germany and now we have a power plant that is going to come online for the first time in Germany and just consider this and you can be sure that Fridays for Future is going to put a lot of pressure on this event. We're going to be at this event and we're going to be joining other organizations with the similar goals and this year we have learned how it works to network with other actors and organizations and have mutually beneficial arrangements. We've been in the Rhineland where there's civil disobedience incidents and on the other side there's young people who live near these mines who are taking to the streets and then there's demonstrations such as all the villages stay who were also there demonstrating against the coal plants and so we've met people young and old local from abroad and we've joined together and we've protested and these images of joint protests were carrying out into the world to show people and I've showed you this map in Germany with the pins and on a European level we aren't as connected to each other. There's going to be a convention in Turin next year called Smile where we are going to look at the European level and building up these European networks. The number of participants in the demonstrations may have risen but we have sorry they may have gone down but we have built something unique in my opinion. We are not just people going out to demonstrate or me giving talks and you're listening but we are coming together. People are coming together under this umbrella so I'm very much looking forward to the Q&A day later and to show you a picture again. It's just not 200,000 people in Berlin but every week at least 100 youths meet to plan these demonstrations and a lot of this happens digitally via WhatsApp and this digital mobilization is what we need in these climate protests. We have built a website where you can see and look for cheap flights to book but they weren't real of course that was to point out that flying is bad for the climate and this is a way of taking protests from the streets to the internet and what makes me really very happy is when I talk to people about Fridays for Future is when they tell me what they think about our organization. So we tend towards having our own opinions even if it's just an audience Q&A so can we start that Q&A now? Thank you for our talk. So there's a lot of time now for questions. There will be the first question from the internet will come right up who if anyone else has questions please do approach the microphones so this is a question from the internet who clearly was at these demonstrations he's sick of being protested against by people who are on the other side of the political field so that's actually a difficult topic we always have scenarios where people are hateful towards us I've seen approach I've seen passerbys spit at people we had a case in Berlin where right extremists proclaimed to proclaim they would destroy this demonstration there are these structures you can reach to which protect you against these right extremist people they are always open to help you they are always friendly towards you we are currently trying to build up a Germany-wide help group to help you against these right-wing approaches maybe that isn't quite built up yet so maybe you should approach local sources this will be treated with respect wherever you go just make sure wherever you go is a place you can trust so microphone number one please my question is and that is what I call you is that really a good idea to make people pay money for CO2 because that would also that would also encourage economic opportunities in that I did vote against the green point which encourages further economic development in the trash-handling business maybe you have another idea of how to solve this so I believe in the trash that we burn and we blast through the atmosphere we don't see that maybe I think about I often think about whether the this CO2 tax is a sensible solution but I think it may be a sufficient tool to make companies not single persons but established companies be worried about be worried about doing more emissions so we we haven't come as far yet as to the point where coal energy doesn't doesn't add up anymore so we would have to improve these prices we found out that there is actually there is actually a tax thing a tax return where money is being paid back to the people so that there isn't any bad notices around these CO2 tax there's there's this giant carpet of solutions to this this is one of the things we do view as sensible microphone number two please do you also discuss in some form of base or in some form of voting circles whether you do want to protest in schools as well so maybe you would even strike inside the schools themselves maybe you would build up a media for that well I'm no longer a student I do not know that there are always suggestions and feedback there's always suggestions and there's always feedback in that topic you may you may intend on asking for about something else where there would be gigantic meetings and gigantic opportunities for people to strike in schools my idea would be to spend your time that you usually would spend on the streets to invite teachers invite older people to discuss with them on a less on a base that is less violent than we are trying to move away from that Fridays in school thing so in Berlin right after that disobedience we talked about about topics and all other all sorts of other things to to make to educate us and to make us more knowledgeable so we do want to do that but it's not been done until now hello this is the circle I do want to ask you whether you want to try and bring this into parliament or fund a party for this as right now it's only on the streets there are the greens there is the green party but in the german parliament and in the european parliament there isn't really that much climate climate oriented parties we are not we do not support any party as an organization there is a discussion internally and how to approach these topics that is handled on an individual scale we don't we do not want to make a party we are organized very differently from parties and we do have some base basic democracy democratic base work but we are different from parties in many ways we don't really fit into that role quite well we're not really institutionalized we're really official we're not a party many of us are political many of us do engage in these political topics but and we also do speak to MEPs or MDPs in that in those fields but overall there is not really this organization we do see that in small bits though another question from the internet so you spoke about IT infrastructure there was a talk yesterday about the IT infrastructure of extension rebellion and do you exchange in that topic and do you use your other systems right up until now we have our separate infrastructure I do have to admit though that I'm not in that field of knowledge I don't deal with these website related things in this detailed communication there are people who do that here you can visit them of course we try and of course we try and cooperate as right now we're not in that much stress as we're not protesting every Friday most things are signal groups which are joined between extension rebellion and Friday's future we as a we as a organization use email if you whenever you read an article or a thread on Facebook Twitter whatever about you there's always there's always people who laugh about your organization who always complain about you being not that climately reasonable as well there's people who get really offend by that do you have a strategy on how to deal with this do you think this is okay or do you think that people don't really know they can play a non-roll well we do want to we do try to get people to moderate these comment sections we haven't we haven't found a good solution yet we have to view this organization in Germany as only being one year old so in some parts we're very much overwhelmed by the situation in some places we should treat these matters more accurately though mainly on Twitter and Instagram we try and communicate with people who have who have experience in these themes so that we can successfully do this social media thing we should of course work on that for longer another question from the internet well the internet is emotionally quite distressed how does this look on the personal level to to go with this organization and to be faced with this ignorance on climate change there's of course there's people who think people just want other people just want to see children suffer how do you view the situation I can only answer this personally for myself for myself I whenever I whenever I see this acutely whenever I see this as a whole whether that's racism or sexism I do notice that very much in the beginning I do see this pretty much immediately I may also be able to speak for this entire haul that this is the same with climate topics it's even more abstract there's not that many people who actually do hit you that's more easy doing this is more easy when you only treat numbers but for me personally it's just retreat retreat to the front lines that's why I'm active that's why I do this if I just sat on my ass then I wouldn't really I would explode inside there are many institutions who do who deal with this there for example there is psychology for future which are psychologists who who deal with topics such as the aspect of hate the aspect of activism in that field this is very this topic is very frustrating I do not really want to do this another question you said you try you were trying to be above party level there are there are requests to diverge to change article 20a to make it German zero to make it to German zero law I have to say I do not really understand this this German zero thing we do not have an opinion on that as a movement but the people who did this who made this possible already had successful campaigns there was a people's vote in Berlin which was successful so this is not going backwards there is development in that direction our next if that's going to be our next coup I don't know do you do you also have people who care about the technology behind that of course you can say we should all exit coal but that would also mean we would have to build that many other power plants or x amount of wind power plants so these propositions look very small and abstract but we but we've been doing this for months and we talked to so many different researchers about this there are many many there are many informations on this on our website if you go to the FAQ and visit the forum then you will see that everything we request from governments and everything we want to pull through with is actually possible there are many people invested in actually thinking about what we would need for this change you mentioned multiple times you had extremely difficult and spaced out decision processes can you explain how this works and can you explain how you do this first of all we're decentralized in these local groups the best thing about that is that they are autonomous on themselves they can do almost anything they want they can do what they want basically these groups all have all have representatives who do a weekly phone conference within different regions where you can manage these certain these certain events and what you want to do this will be carried over by the representatives into the local groups and this will be decided about there this isn't the optimal process because this takes some time for the different groups there are also self-explanatory things that are predistinguished by their work fields this isn't perfect I believe this is really difficult to get perfect we've been discussing about this manner for a very long time we have a structurization spreadsheet which is kind of which I as myself regard as a very unnecessary measure yeah we just have to think about this microphone number one next question again thank you for starting all this movement I just wanted to tell you and this whole hall there is actually developers for future there are so many different groups who are invested in this climate thing I wanted to ask how known this is there could you maybe do an announcement for that there are parents for future artists for future all these different groups I would be interested what has to happen so that everyone wakes up everyone gets involved in this when I listen to politics and science who always talk about these how much CO2 do we have left how much space of movement do we have it's always been talked about seven years we have seven years we have seven more years this all doesn't sound that dramatic I just want to be active want to know how to spread this information further on what does what has to happen what do we have to do this is a question to everyone because this responsibility isn't only with Fridays for Future this is for everyone applause and I support that what is important for me is that this has to carry on what can we do is also a question we have to ask ourselves I'm very happy about these initiatives but we didn't really start with this climate justice movements have been going on for such a long time and we don't know them we don't we don't name these names we don't name these activists who actively fight people and other people in the rainforest who actively get murdered by corrupt governments for fighting for their own for their own survival so all these people who are locked and who are under suppressed and forcefully denied are our founding fathers so to say I don't want to say that we as Fridays for Future started this as it is just not justified next question is from the internet again on the different levels of Fridays for Future how are demonstrations and protests managed are there any problems regarding that that is very depending on place in some parts these weekly strikes have been have developed into critically close groups it's just it's just basically it depends on the location there are many places where there is breaks in the way of this path you always get these questions and bad things to hear from even policemen and police women we can't really say that we are all pretty much chill with that we have some sort of natural distance from that and we just have to see how this changes further on one more question microphone one thank you very much for your engagement thank you very much for pushing this topic into everyone's mind to he can hear it my practical question when you look into energy more you will see that regenerative technologies and regenerative electricity doesn't run continuously and that this is a very difficult solution well I don't want you to answer this I would want politicians the ones who we have to put this responsibility upon to answer this do you have any knowledge that you could put on politicians desks of course we didn't write this out in letters there are magnificent and wonderful people who help us with this knowledge who help us communicate this knowledge I myself study at the TU Berlin and there's a group which is called colexed they deal with how the exit of coal energy go in detail we aren't on that topic we aren't researching this but we do have some ideas we're not on the stand where we can say we could do that tomorrow but this development we want to watch more where there's where we see these regulations where Peter Admeier wants to have a thousand meter distance between solar no wind power plants and villages we just have to continue on there are multiple different ideas for this and you can speak to that later now we are running out of time you can ask speaker later after this talk and Koli invited to keep this discussion up thank you for listening to the English