 Now you can tell you by the amount of cases we get how big of a problem this is It's hard to detect it's hard for the average consumer to see the skimmer on the ATM The facial plates that are around the screen the actual cap that goes over the card reader Those are just being held on by double-sided tape criminals want a way to put it on quickly and move it quickly They walk up look around make sure there's nobody standing behind them They pop it on they make it look like they're using the machine and they're out of there within 10 seconds We have a lot of groups that travel through Colorado place the skimmers collect data on hundreds of credit cards They move on to a different state some of these out-of-state groups They don't care that their faces on video surveillance We get very clear video of them walking up putting the skimmer on because they know they're gonna be in and out in a Couple days, and they may never come back For us it seems very high-tech, but to someone who's already figured this out. It's very simple