 So Mr. Adrian, thank you so much for taking the time for this interview and first we'd like to know About the Chibibis and CBBC projects you have tell us more about what you do in these two projects But the two main brands we have if you like up for two to six year olds and six to twelve year olds And for the two to six is it CBBs www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk And that's where we have programs for younger children. It's a very safe environment where they can be entertained And it has a slight an informal learning approach to it's a very successful Channel which has website television and radio programs and for older children six to twelve year olds. We have CBBC Which is? www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk And that's for older children. It's a mixed genre channel again a website and television And it has animation comedies Entertainment factual programs news very broad range of programs for older children In your speech you discussed with me and my Movie project tell us in detail what this project is all about and Your experience with it how how you saw children dealing with this with this project your yeah So tell us more in detail about what me and my movie Me and my movies is a is a partnership between BBC children's BBC learning and BAFTA Which is the British Academy for film and television arts and it is a project that really in Builds on children's desire to create content. They love making movies on their mobile phones or on video cameras if they have them and It really provides them with the tools to create content to show us how to do it and then it gives them a forum to share that content with other people and Ultimately as part of a contest if as it go as a you know tens of thousands of applications Screamed by a lot of people I myself screened some this year about 40 I think then they range from 30 seconds through to I think two minutes three minutes And then the winners will get a special award at BAFTA So it has a lot of credibility with it Yeah, and of course you get some which are just children Putting a mobile phone in front of their friends and doing something done But the other extreme you get fantastically complex really Innovative and creative storytelling from children and they think about the soundtrack They think about story structure. They think about graphics. Some of them make stock frame animations using the plasticine It's really it's it is it's a tribute to the tremendous creativity of children We get very children. I don't know it's like in the Middle East, but children get a bad press very often You know, they're walking around shopping malls with their hoods up and they're not great But in fact the majority of children have a lot to say in a lot to give us a lot to offer and They have tremendous stories. They want to share with us and that's it's a me and my movies is a good avenue for that Okay, so since you have that with projects by which or in which children express their talents What do you think are the social and Personality impact of this on the children. I think that there are tremendous positive impacts on children and some that we perhaps need to monitor and we've talked about it a bit in the conference this morning I think children are creative and I don't think it takes much for that creativity to be encouraged And when they know how to use the digital tools that are available, they can do great things We also have stories of kids who just sit hunched over computers day on your hour after hour And so I think we have to teach them how to manage that so they don't just focus all their attentions and all their social skills Online then they need to get out and play they need to go and communicate with their friends and families as well But I think that's about managing the technology rather than letting the technology manage us Okay Do you think parents is close supervision or being protective on Julie on the children when when we when we speak about their online behavior? So how do you think parents should go with this? Should they be closely supervising their kids and will this like kill the creativity the children can have or how could They manage this so I don't think there's one right answer to that I think I think it's a question of the parents comfort level and the children's comfort level I know that I would not do very well if my mother was sitting on my shoulder all the time Well, I was trying to create a movie Yeah, especially if I was trying to be a little bit naughty and children have a great sense of humor Yeah, but at the same time I think often parents can help children with their creativity They can encourage them and challenge them to go a bit further so As ever it's a judgment call. I think it's a question of I think parents can can Support their children and monitor their children without necessarily being there and peering over Their screen the entire time and of course it depends on the age Younger children would be much more open to parents sitting with them as they're creating something CBB's has a very interactive website and that even though children At a very early age can navigate that site on their own and play manipulate a lot of the content very often They're sitting with their parents their carers or their grandparents Older children, you know the older children don't want their parents sitting behind them So I think that's a as ever. It's a negotiation between parent and child Okay Usually we call children digital natives because they're so comfortable with technology But does this mean that they are literate can be equate both terms? I think that Being a digital native doesn't necessarily mean that you are fully digitally literate And again, there are different kinds of literacy You might be you might be literate to the extent that you know how the technology works But are you literate to the extent that you fully understand the consequences of your actions if you go there? And make that comment something else will happen down the road So I think I wouldn't make the assumption that they mean the same thing and I think that even the children can Jump on a technology like locusts and gorge on it I think we still need as Educators and as parents to make sure they fully understand how to use it effectively safely and creatively Okay, how do you think can we encourage? Digiting rich kids to express their talents and their bills online, but without endangering their safety I think it's a I think we can do that through a combination of Creating safe environments for them to do that that are monitored that have all sorts of mechanisms Which allow them to interact with others in a safe way, but primarily the most important way is to teach them the skills They need in order to make those informed judgments because very often it's it's about what they post where they post and Somebody at the conference. I forgot who I'm sorry was just telling me that they have today as think before you post day And so really just getting children to think before they push that send button is a really simple But quite pragmatic tactic that they can use to Explore the consequences of their actions I think ultimately we have to teach children to make their own decisions to make their own smart decisions Okay, so my final question would be how can online platforms and websites teach children But without falling into the trap of having a very dry instructive message the children would be See would see very direct. So how can we educate children without falling into this trap? Well, actually, I'm I have dual citizenship. I'm both British and Canadian and the great Canadian philosopher Marshall McLuhan said that anyone who asks the difference between Education and entertainment knows nothing about either and I think that we have to be very smart in how we communicate with children So that we can give them all sorts of examples and all sorts of opportunities without being too didactic Again, it's a difference with age range with young children. You can be quite didactic do do this Don't do that as you get older, you know, very well if you tell a child not to do something So I think we have to be much smarter And I still think we should we should listen to children because when children are aware of what they should do Shouldn't do they're quite they clearly understand why and I think it might be useful to Get some children to teach other children what they should or shouldn't do a lot of a lot of adults Tell children what to do. Yeah, we could actually use some of the children to teach the children themselves, too Okay. Thank you for this lovely interview and thank you so much for joining us in this conference Thank you very much. Thank you for inviting me. Thank you