 We have some great matchups that football fans should be thankful for. You're watching Fandal TV's more ways to win. Thanks for joining us. Happy Thanksgiving from our family to yours. It's week 12 of the NFL season and we're doing our thing. We're betting the biggest games. Handing out best bests and dropping best value. DFS plays as well. I'm Lisa Kearney hanging with you from the Fandal Sportsbook here at the Meadowlands. But across the country the rest of our team awaits. There you are. Our sports betting expert Dave Weaver. Former NFL wide out Super Bowl champ James Jones in our L.A. studio. Sports talk radio host Anna Filiponi joining us from Pittsburgh as always. And the face of Marquis Sports Network. Our NFL expert Cole Wright in Chicago. Hey guys. Happy Thanksgiving. It is week 12. Let's kick this thing off. More ways to win starts now. And we're kicking off the show to Thanksgiving Day's matchups. Today we've got a slate full for you. We've got these seven and three bills at the four and six lions in the early game. So we're starting there. Detroit actually the hotter team coming into this one and winning three in a row with the offense averaging 26 points per game as for Buffalo. They've lost two or three but still have the number two total offense and scoring offense. Guys bills are giving nine and a half points in this one. So it's a pretty big number. But let's break this thing down starting with our betting experts Dave and Pony. This is for you Dave. Is this spread too big to back Buffalo? What do you think? I don't think it's too big. It's just great to have football on Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. And you know the Lions always playing Thanksgiving. So as a better. Oh just back the Lions remember like 20 years ago they're getting something similar right around 10 points against the Colts unloaded. They got to cover this. They lost like 43 to nine Peyton Manning just out six touchdowns. I don't know if Josh Allen is going to throw six touchdowns but I could see this being blowout city. The last seven Thanksgiving games that the Lions have had against the AFC. Normally it's an NFC matchup but against the AFC 0 and 7 straight up one and six against the spread. And I don't think that changes Pony don't fall for it. Yes Detroit has won three in a row for the first time since 2017. Don't do it. Now this is becoming the old hat for the bills. Dave they played in two out of the last three Thanksgiving games. They won both. They were just in Detroit for the Cleveland game. So any kind of home field short week advantage I don't think it's there for the Lions when the bills win they tend to win big. That's why this line is not big enough. Five of their seven victories have come by more than a touchdown. So when you factor that in Detroit is going to be without its top corner. They played two teams in the Giants and Bears in their last two games that have wanted to run the ball. The bills are going to want to air it out. Friendly confines of a dome. Yeah. I think the bills they're going to be eating turkey legs on the sideline James after they get a blowout win. All right. So yeah they're calling for blowouts. But James this Lions team has played pretty well the last few weeks. Do you think they can keep it close? Yeah. I can see you guys are not believers of the Detroit Lions and I told you they will beat the big blue last week. But hey they've been playing really good football but it runs out. It runs out. Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills are built to win a Super Bowl. The Detroit Lions are not built to win a Super Bowl. I think this game will be really close in the first half and I think it's too much Buffalo Bills in the second half. I think you'll see some takeaways that they get on the defensive side of the ball turned into some points for Josh Allen in that offense. And I think eventually it gets ugly on that Thanksgiving day for the Detroit Lions and Detroit to be honest which you just hasn't been playing well on Thanksgiving day and I don't see that changing against a big-time opponent in the Buffalo Bills. Challenge. The line is not big enough. All right you guys we'll see about this one. Let's get to the second game on the schedule today. We've got the Giants at the Cowboys. Both teams seven and three. This is a huge NSC East Division game. You know this. Cowboys running back. Tony Pollard has been absolutely hot. Averaging 155 total yards over the last three games. Six touchdowns for Pollard. You got the Giants. They've been exploited a bit here in the last few weeks. They're dealing with injuries. They've lost two of three. Saquon Barkley was held to just 22 yards on 15 carries last week by far his worst game of the season. Guys let's bet this one to what we do. Cole you're in on this one. Giants are a nine and a half point road underdog. Which side do you like? Well Lisa I don't know if you knew this or not but the Dallas Cowboys the first squad ever with two state drivers license. They've unofficially changed her name to the Dallas Soda Cowboys because Dak well he played out of control on the road. He has two or more touchdown passes in each of the last three games and eight over his last four. And then like you said Tony Pollard you add him in with a little dash of Zeke Elliott and it's a Thanksgiving run game recipe. These two guys over their last three eleven touchdowns combined. There's no stopping these two and that should spell a little sour sausage stuffing for Big Blue when it comes to their defense. Their fourteenth overall which isn't terrible but Dallas they're going to make that unit look lesser than I think the Cowboys will win pretty easily here twenty to seventeen Dave. Maybe even more easily than that because one thing that they've been doing is covering at home. You know they've covered it four straight against the spread and not only they're covering but they're covering those games by at least nine points. So you know they're laying ten they're covering by nineteen. So that could certainly happen here. The Giants have been struggling within the division on four against the spread the last four against the NFC East and I can't get it out of my head from last week and Lisa when James voices in there saying I am not a believer in Daniel Jones. I am not a believer in the New York Giants. So today I'm taking James thoughts from last week and applying that here and the Dallas Cowboys already covered against the Giants. They beat them by seven with Cooper Rush in New York. Now they have DAC at home and they only need to win by three more points than that. So yes Cowboys. Yes and I also pulled a statistic from your from your graphic there. Cowboys defense giving up just a hundred seventy four and a half passing yards per game best in the NFL. James how do you see this game going? Well first off man I appreciate you being coachable man you're coachable Dave. Listen to me but let me tell you something right we talking Kirk Cousins we talking Justin Jefferson we talking Dalvin Cook we talking three points for the Minnesota Vikings right you think Daniel Jones is going to come and move the ball consistently on this Cowboys defense at the crib on Thanksgiving Day. It's not going to happen. Dak Prescott in this office is putting up points in a bunch and they putting them up very very fast right. The New York Giants I am not a believer in like Dave said I just don't think they are ready to compete at that elite level. The Cowboys are starting to show the world that they are an elite football team. Head coach Mike McCarthy has this team playing really good football two headed monster when you got Zeke back in the running game totally pilot playing out of his mind but not only that like I said Dak Prescott wasn't in this game last time. Dak Prescott is putting up points this this Cowboys team is 30 points whatever they want to get to with Dak Prescott and they just needed the defense to show up and they showed up last week they gonna show up again at the house this is gonna be a beat down on Thanksgiving Day Cowboys. Yeah yeah the Giants are limping into this one as well. Alright you guys let's get to the final game on the schedule here on Thanksgiving Day the 6 and 4 Patriots at the 8 and 2 Vikings Minnesota coming off that 42 loss against Dallas speaking of Vikings gave up a season high 7 sacks scored a season low 3 points then you got the Patriots defense who's been hot racking up four sacks last week giving up just 3 points against the Jets. Alright Pony and Cole this game is for you the Patriots are 2 and a half point road dogs which side do you like Pony. Somebody's got to take an underdog on this show we're taking all the favorites so I'm gonna start with the Patriots now and go with New England 3 points by the Vikings what a fraudulent team they are right now the record is not indicative of the kind of team they are they've got a minus now and negative point differential and then you've got New England tip of the cap to Bill Balacheck they have allowed 6 total points in their last two games. Yeah they've got to work out Kings offensively. And then you've got to get to the bottom line has it going again Christian Derisaw the great tackle is going to miss this game for Minnesota. So that allows them to move Matthew Jude on around. I think he's going to be in Kirk Cousins face the entire game. And I think New England plus 1 16 a Thanksgiving money line money maker Lisa well Pony I tell you what I believe in Minnesota versus Buffalo and you know what they have more efficient when it comes to getting things done and then that New England squad Buffalo they have the league's number two overall offense and the Vikings held in just six second half points but the Patriots team they play with the defense that's tougher than leather Bill B's unit fourth league wide and they held the opposition to 17 or fewer six times on the season and every time that's happened they come away with the wind so 17 that's going to be the magic number on Kirk and Justin's show it's going to be a big bounce back defensively for Minnesota on the defensive side of the ball they make it eight out of the last nine they win this one close shave 2117 Cole I can't believe you are on this show believing in Kirk Cousins I can't believe you believing in Kirk Cousins on this show Cole it worked two weeks ago three points and you come on this show believing in Kirk Cousins I can't believe what Bill Belichick's defense did come on Cole it is going to be the same thing I'll give them 10 points but this is a copycat league and if it's anybody that knows how to copy it's Bill Belichick and they are going to do a lot of the same things that this Cowboys defense did to this Minnesota Vikings offense Kirk Cousins I think this is prime time right Thanksgiving day prime time game right and you believe not only are you believing in Kirk Cousins but it's you talking about prime time Kirk Cousins come on Cole I got the underdog in this one too I'm with Pony I like Bill Belichick and these Patriots beating the Minnesota Vikings I'm not a believer in the Minnesota Vikings neither the way they win football games is not in a dominant fashion to be to have this many wins as they have I like Bill Belichick and the Patriots upsetting the Minnesota Vikings on Thanksgiving day I mean those Vikings giving off seven sacks seven sacks all right you guys great stuff we're gonna have great games all day long for you we have plenty more picks coming up on this show here today but first I want to tell you about a special promotion for same game parley bets through Monday yes a happy Thanksgiving and more from us here at Fando all customers can get up to $100 in free bets win or lose all you have to do is place a total of $20 or more on an NFL same game parley the more you bet the more you'll get back in free bets so check out the Fando Sportsbook app and make an NFL same game parley debate bet to take advantage of this special offer now until Monday and coming up here on more ways to win turning a small wager into a big win Dave reveals this week's big payday parley and next we're picking the biggest game of the weekend including the first place team in each conference see if our experts think Kansas City and Philly are good bets and why we're coming right back stay with us let's get right to the biggest games this weekend and start with the three and seven Rams at the eight and two chiefs listen we talk about this chief's offense each week and rightfully so but we got a single out here Travis Kelsey and give him mad props he leads the NFL in receiving first downs and touchdowns including three scores last week meanwhile this Rams offense ranks in the bottom four in total offense rushing offense and scoring offense certainly not the outlook many had for this LA team coming off of that Super Bowl win I was just saying it in commercial break three wins for this team guys check out the line for this one the chiefs are 14 and a half point favorites let's get all your picks here starting with our betting experts Dave are you willing to lay that many points well look first off let's just start by saying the Rams are really really bad right now let's not sugarcoat that but this is the ultimate sandwich spot for the chiefs they're coming off of that thrilling win against their divisional rival the Chargers and next week they're going to Cincinnati I mean they've been waiting for that game all year to make up for what Joe Burrow did to them last year so I think this is a game that they win but not by two touchdowns and also Pony the last seven times that Mahomes has been a favorite of ten points or more he's only covered once they have no reason to win this game by 30 they got the bangles next week they'll win it but I don't think they win by two touchdowns Dave even well if they do win by two touchdowns they still won't cover or more lines 14 and a half so I'm with you on that the chiefs this year have not been great as a favorite of a touchdown or more in games they've had it happen three times they're one and two against the spread in those games the only game they covered was against Jacksonville in that situation they had Tennessee that was an overtime game with Malik Willis at quarterback for Tennessee so look the Rams we know their shot we know they're one of the worst defending champ teams in NFL history but I think they'll lay it all out there this is probably their biggest game of the year because they're not going to the playoffs and I think Sean McVeigh will have them competitive but obviously not competitive enough to win this game you know what pony that's my that's that's my worry right my worry is every time I turn the tape on and I watch the Los Angeles Rams they just not they not leaving it all out there and they just getting beat down by everybody and this is even gonna be worse the Kansas City Chiefs are about to beat the Rams down this is going to be a 20 plus point beat down right here and it's not because I'm a believer in Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs that much it's because of what I've seen from this Rams team this Rams team is absolutely terrible and it's crazy to even think of Jalen Ramsey Aaron Donald Matthew Staffer Cooper Cup all these guys that they have on this squad and they're this bad of a football team but it starts by them not laying it all out there and the Kansas City Chiefs are rolling right now they are hot I'm not Lisa I'm not going against the Kansas City Chiefs no more this year unless they go against probably Lamar Jackson or something but I've seen these boys I've seen these boys scoring 10 seconds five seconds one minute it does not matter they about to beat the Rams down I'm gonna hold you to that but I do have to say about the Rams we saw what they were in week one they were blown out at home by the bills I'm at that game watching I'm like what is this team what are we seeing and we've just seen continue to play out throughout the season alright great stuff by you guys let's get to our next game on the schedule here first place in the AFC to the top team in the NFC we've got the 9-1 Eagles hosting the 4-7 Packers Philly needed a touchdown with just over a minute left in the game at Indy to pull off a double digit fourth quarter comeback great game and they did avoid their second straight loss of the year and then you look at the Packers they started 3-1 now feel like they're in free fall they've dropped six of their last seven games I'm excited to get James perspective on this game but I'm gonna start with you Cole Philly is a seven point home favorite do they win by more than a touchdown what do you think? Well Lisa you might want to give these to James because they're noise reducing I don't want to hear what I have to say because Philly don't break mentality they've shown that they can go out there and win close games case in point last week versus Indy they also shown that they can go out there and put some cushion in between themselves and the opposition six of the nine wins have come by seven points or more and they've also been quick starters they've won the first half in seven of ten games and meanwhile Green Bay James like we said earmuffs on this one right now they're shopping out of the bargain bin they've dropped six of them you pointed that one out and they've been outscored in the second half in four of those six games in a slow start that's going to equal a long day for AA Ron and company the Eagles they're going to fly in this one thirty one twenty four that's how I see it shaken out yeah the Packers start out okay because they were comfortable at home but they have really struggled on the road only one and four this year and Philly has been very good at home covering four of their five games look at that bottom bullet point right there Jones has picked against the Packers the past two weeks Cole where I come from Trash day is on Thursday but me too the Eagles are taking out the trash on Sunday here by the way Lisa you can't spell garbage without GB take that I did step back over here for a second you two are something else you two are something else this morning right how they woke us up a little early you two are something else but I'm going to tell y'all something I picked against the Packers back to back weeks because I picked against them against the Cowboys right and they won so I picked against them last week right because I thought you know I thought it was going to work again right little reverse psychology it didn't but I'm picking my boys this week and I'm picking my boys to win this game and go get after the Philadelphia Eagles and this is the reason why right the last two weeks right Philadelphia started out fly Eagles fly they started out really hot looked like they were unstoppable and the last two weeks it looks like people have figured them out Washington commanders figured them out Matt Ryan and the Colts had them on the ropes in that game right Jeff Saturday I just see this right now I see a trend with the Eagles right now right they are playing good football right now thank God the defense play good last week but they are not playing good football on the offensive side of the ball right now I think Aaron Rogers and this Packers team comes in there gets a gutsy gutsy gutsy win to get themselves back and play off contention I got my boys this week the Eagles secret sauce has been exposed okay here we are in week 12 this is going to be a good game right now let's get to a match up in the AFC that could have huge playoff implications here right now the 7 and 3 Titans and the 6 and 4 Bengals are in the postseason but since he's in that 7th and final spot the two teams face off in Tennessee the Titans feature the league's top rusher in Derek Henry and then on the other side you've got the Bengals they have the 4th ranked passing offense so Pony and Cole this game the opposite offensive styles clashing here the Bengals are actually one and a half point in road favorites Pony what do you think of that line my favorite game of the year I love the Bengals in this game I really do I think the Titans they're so well coached they're so disciplined but they're really not that talented outside of Derek Henry I think it shows up in this game they have only beaten one team with a winning record all year and that was the Washington commanders back when Carson they have beaten bad teams so unless you think Cincinnati is bad which I don't you should take the Bengals in this game even though it is in Nashville such a small line Bengals minus one and a half my favorite game of the year Cole well Pony like you said right now this Titans team and not very talented and despite some of their success they have struggled to find that true identity at least when it comes to their injury Derek of Nashville the league's only one thousand plus yard rusher at least thus far and the Titans 30th overall offensively how does that happen with the passing offense it's worse than the big picture and the saving grace for Tennessee is there a thicker than the thieves at the house three in one while sincey they've scuffled away from the house 500 on the road in Tennessee their defense is going to play better than that middle the pack showing the Titans and they're going to make it eight of the last nine it's going to be a close shave a 24-21 they're going to lean on the king in this one pony calm with you it's just you know they know how to win right under reybro they know how to win right this is how they want to play football people looking at them like hey it ain't flash you know this is how coach reybro wants to play football run king Henry play action pass let 10 he'll make some throws but no Jamar chase Joe Joe mixing coming off a concussion we do not know if he's going to be available or how he's going to play right this offense is not the same without Jamar chase the Titans are playing really good defense right now on the defense side of the ball I don't see Joe Joe burrow having too much success without Jamar chase out there and without Joe Joe mixing if he is not able to go I think it's too much king Henry I think the Titans play the type of football that they want to play ground now eat the clock up play good defense and they come out of this ball game with a W yeah the Titans have won seven of eight you saw the screen there eight and oh against the spread and they're getting points at home on a holiday weekend guys I love that all right coming up pony has hit four of his favorite favorite picks in a row yes for in a row see who he's got covering this week to keep his streak alive plus we've got your daily fantasy fix covered as well we're helping you stack your lineup and taking a look at the best value plays here in week 12 you're watching more ways to win and we're coming right back rolling on here on more ways to win thanks for hanging with us this Thanksgiving weekend underdogs favorites plus money safe plays which is the way to go well you don't have to pick you get to do both but you must find the best value when placing your bets so best bets for each in this week's dog and pony show here you go guys I love this segment so much pony is playing the part of pony and our special guest Chad Milman will be bringing the dogs great having Chad back with us chief content officer of the action network Chad hold on to your picks for just a second pony need to shout out and shout you out for hitting both your picks last week you got the Patriots and the 49ers you've got four in a row over the last two weeks so you're going to start off with your favorite favorite here a four week 12 what you got you're good about this one Denver as a favorite in Carolina and favored for a reason despite what has been a lousy season Sam Darnold gonna make his Carolina Panthers debut wrong time to make it Denver's defense is elite their top three in scoring defense their top three in total defense there's a stat that if every game after regulation if the Broncos offense had scored more than 18 points Denver would have eight wins right now their defense has been exemplary it's been outstanding and that'll continue against Sam Darnold who will make a season debut the third Panther starting quarterback of the year right okay great points by you pony Chad give me an underdog that you like this week alright so we all just watch the 49ers crush the Cardinals on Monday night football it's the prime time game everybody's watching they win by four touchdowns automatically fade the Niners when they get back home and they're taking on the New Orleans Saints they're right now favored by nine and a half points that's about two and a half points of value according to the wise guys projections there's a couple things that are in play here one how amazing the 49ers played when they had all four of their main primary weapons in Brandon Ayuk in Kittle in Christian McCaffrey and Devo Samuel but we're also talking about a Saints team that lost to the Steelers two weeks ago and then struggled to beat a beat up Rams team last week in a game that was close throughout the entire game so you're getting a little bit more value on the Saints than you are on the Niners and there's one more thing to consider how Shannon in his career as a favorite at home covers less than 30% of the time All right great stuff Chad Pony give me your second favorite favorite here for week 12 Well I heard James say you know the Bengals what's their offense without Jamar Chase pretty darn good 37 points against the Steelers with everybody healthy on defense T. J. Watt and Mika Fitzpatrick a unit that forced five turnovers in their week one game and then the week four against Carolina 42 points so outside of that one blip on the radar that rounds Monday night game the Bengals have scored 30 plus points in four out of five games the Tennessee Titans cannot and will not keep up with that I love them to go to Tennessee and pull out a win on Sunday that's the tight line right there okay Pony thank you Chad give me another underdog you like here this week well I will say that I agree with Pony that I love the Bengals this week as a favorite the other underdog that I like in this spot is Atlanta against Washington we're one game into the Taylor Heinecke is a starter not a backup with questions era I don't think Washington should be more than a field goal favorite against anybody at this point so you're getting a little bit more value on Atlanta also consider this Atlanta has had eight games that have been decided by one score or less seven of those games have been by four points or less the script for the Falcons is always the same run the ball run the ball run the ball keep the game close control the clock don't make mistakes against a Washington team that is prone to having a quarterback even though he's a starter now he likes to take shots this gives them an opportunity for a couple more possessions where they can extend the clock own the clock keep the game close give me Atlanta plus four Chad I love Atlanta strategy there on your full screen no stupid mistakes just that's my life game plan alright Pony let's quickly recap your two favorites here you like two road favorites here we got the Broncos and the Panthers also the Bengals at the Titans and then Chad let's take a look at your dogs here you're backing the Saints getting points in San Francisco and the Falcons getting points at Washington awesome stuff guys you can bet these dogs and favorites right now on the Fandals Sports Book app and I always like to remind you you can get more of Chad's insight by listening to the favorites podcast wherever you get your podcast and also make sure to download the Action Network app for expert picks live scores and stats awesome having you with us Chad thanks guys alright now it's time for everybody's favorite new segment Dave you ready? Dave's Big Payday Parley pretty self-explanatory you bet a little you get a lot of cash when all your legs hit this weekend Dave give these people what they want how many legs for us here in Week 12 we tried to make 72,000 last week it didn't work out we lost 20 bucks so we're gonna play eight teams today Lisa no spread so we just need teams to win some of them are big favorites some of them are underdogs just teams that have to win the game we're gonna start with Carolina Pony was talking about Denver's defense how about Carolina's defense hold Lamar to 13 points last week they lost but I think the Panthers will shut down the Broncos so we're gonna start with an underdog one more underdog a baby home dog the Browns hosting the bucks they could beat them so now our $20 is up to over a hundred just like that on two teams did I see this stat right the Jets average in the second half 2.7 inches a play not yards they were like minus 21 passing I mean the Bears are gonna go in to met life and win so there's another underdog and my best bet of the week is the Raiders I like the way that they got that win they're gonna shred this Seahawk secondary so we started out with four underdogs so we're up to about $800 we're gonna get a little chocky here page two look we're using a minus 1100 team but it adds some money and they're almost $100 added so would you step just a little bit I don't think the chiefs cover but they win and then we're gonna go to the Niners Niners I mean how are you gonna lose to the Saints at home that's not happening we're up to over a thousand dollars now we're gonna close it out with the Eagles to take out the trash against the Packers 1400 hanging his head on that one and we're gonna close it out Monday night football bet against Mike Tomlin at your own risk 19 and 4 in his lifetime on Monday nights so there's an underdog 20 dollars Lisa it's not 72,000 but that would be a nice payday 3,250 I'll take it sometimes you have to take your biggest shot and just see what happens that was last week this is a little more measured Dave okay I like where you're going with this alright still it's a ton of great money right there great stuff by Dave and look at those odds just skyrocket see what Dave did tail Dave create your own Parley to win big on the Fandall sportsbook app you can do it right now alright we've got a long Thanksgiving weekend break and if you haven't joined us for daily fantasy well now is the time Fandall has a bunch of fast contest live right now where you can win thousands of dollars on Fandall.com the key to success is value at each position we preach it every single week week 12 is no exception Jim Sonnis is a senior writer and analyst for Number Fire he's got his best value place here focusing on the players taking the field Thanksgiving day what you got for us Jim thanks Lisa on this Thanksgiving slate if you want to get to guys like Josh Allen like Stefan Diggs like Tony Parr he's gone somewhere but some good values across the board on Fandall for this slate that begins at tight end with Dalton Schultz coming in at $5,800 Schultz has had a tremendous workload since Dak Prescott came back 20% overall target share with 37% inside the red zone good yardage upside the Cowboys imply totally super high as a Dalton Schultz good way to say salary at tight end sticking that same game on the opposing side I do like wide receiver Darius Lane coming in at $6,400 no Robinson here should open up a lot of targets in this Giants passing offense and Slayton had 10 targets last week despite Robinson getting 13 to himself Slayton had two deep balls in that game and can convert on the deep work that he gets Darius Slayton playing inside is a good option once again for this week at running back my top option for value is Devin Singletary coming in at $6,900 Singletary playing on a team with a super high implied total and has had a decent role recent the bills have been more run heavy with Ellen's elbow being bagged up and Singletary has benefited nine red zone chances for Devin Singletary in their week 11 win over the Browns the Singletary $6,900 playing on a great offense a good way to say some salary to hopefully get you back up to all those fun studs we got here Lisa for the Thanksgiving slate and happy Thanksgiving to you Jim thank you so much set your lineups at fandal.com and follow Jim on Twitter at Jim's honest check out his covering the spread podcast wherever you get your podcasts all right continuing on here on more ways to win coming up we're hopping on the odds and hitting up all the markets our favorite spread moneyline and total bets coming up next plus are the dolphins for real and can the bucks win their third game in a row we're going to answer all your questions our expert versus our ex player debate those games and more that's coming up next we're coming right back welcome back to more ways to win here on fandal the happy Thanksgiving to you all it is time for our betting expert to take on our ex player in a betting debate based on eye test and experience okay each of our betting experts we're going to go toe to toe with James James you need to wear the t-shirt nine year NFL vet super bull champ or just wear your ring maybe wear the ring the jerseys all the things guys let's give the seven and three dolphins some love huh they're hosting the one eight and one Texans the dolphins in a four in a row they rank third in total offense they look at the Texans they have lost five in a row they rank second worst in total defense Dave makes sense that the dolphins are giving 13 how are you playing this one it actually is that line even big enough you know it does make a lot of sense and before the year started nobody would have thought that the dolphins would be a 13 point favorite over anybody probably but they have exceeded everybody's expectations including my 500 right now to win coach the year the Eagles Nick Sirani's minus 125 I think the dolphins can go a long way I think McDaniel has a great chance of winning that award so that's where I would start with the bet but two is 11 and four at home against the spread and the McDaniel's faith in him has been unwavering and you could see it into his confidence he's playing so well I think Miami does good things in this game and going forward could go a long way maybe all the way to the Super Bowl I absolutely agree we've been talking about an MVP candidate in in Tua right spinning the ball all over the yard to waddle to Tyreek Hill to gaseke anybody run game coming downhill right this Miami Dolphins team is playing really good football you have Bradley Chubb on the defense side of the ball that defense will get better right and the Houston Texans right they are just a team that is in rebuild mode right now out there with lovey Smith right can't find a lot of points on the side of the ball can't stop anybody on the defense side of the ball that's formula for losses you got a big time offense coming in too much to guys my husband played for the Falcons and Seahawks my son this week announced he's a dolphins fan all right pony the Ravens have quietly won four in a row with their defense giving up 14 and a half points in those games look at the Jags they've lost six to seven but are coming off a bye week so they've had more time to prepare for this matchup pony four point road favorites who do you like I like Jacksonville every single one of their home games this year has been decided by one score so these are close games in Jacksonville the Ravens needed James before you put your head down they needed fifty five minutes to pull away from Baker Mayfield and the Panthers let me say that again Baker Mayfield this a road game against a better quarterback it will be close take Jacksonville pony your cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs okay because this right here is absolutely crazy first off on the last segment you bragged about the bangles putting up big points against the stillers and the Panthers that's what you bragged about now you're saying Jacksonville is gonna be Lamar action Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens it's not gonna happen how do you think they gonna score on this Baltimore Ravens defense with Roquan Smith in the middle of that defense they are not going to have a chance of scoring any points especially enough points to be Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens I got Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens big in this game pony they get back on track doing what they do running the football Lamar action Jackson being Lamar Jackson they always play good defense that's gonna continue this is going to be a Baltimore Ravens W you sent that warning shot earlier in the show we knew that was coming thank you James good stuff guys all right Cole you're up tapping him for pony now let's talk about Tom Brady in the box who are going for their third straight win guys the run game has been an issue all year long they ranked dead last in the NFL in rushing yards per game they're facing a Browns team that's leading points per game that's tied for second most in the league so you know what we're working with here Cole the bucks are three and a half point road favorites how do you see this one going well at least I tell you what Tom's got some extra free time on his hands he must have been watching the NBA because right now he's all about load management he knows that his squad is in first place and that's all they need right now they also know that they have seven games left to go and three of those are versus division teams and two games versus teams that are above 500 that's San Francisco and Cincinnati and the Browns defense well their bottom half of the league and they've shown problems defending the pass and Tom Brady currently fourth in passing yards he's looking to catch up a little bit with Patrick Mahomes so I think that the bucks they're going to sling it in route to a win 27 to 14 I know James is on the same page with me right 27 14 that much a believer in Tom Brady in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Cole you know I love you you know you're my brother but I am going to disagree with you on this one I am not a believer in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers right you should have lost the game against a very stinky Rams team and that's the Rams that you come back and get the ball back I don't know how and go down there and win the game and then you play solid against the Seattle Seahawks and Geno Smith's team out there in Germany but no I don't see anything changing with this Tampa Bay Buccaneers team right they're not consistent on the offensive side of the ball they don't know who they are they can't run it you're trying to put the ball in time Brady has to throw the ball all over the yard it hasn't turned into a lot of wins that's why they only have five I don't see it changing I like the brownies I like Jacobi Bersent and the brownies and Chubb coming down hill winning this ballgame I'm just not the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have to show me that they are a consistent football team right now they are on a roller coaster and I am not a believer Cole I got the brownies not getting on that ride all right now let's get to the week 12 Oz screaming for some sugar guys let's go as usual our experts are all over these lines are giving out their favorite spread money line and total bet so give me some of that sugar guys as part of our weekly competition where each of the guys get 100 virtual dollars for those three bets so Dave where are you wagering that 100 bucks I'm going with the Las Vegas Raiders and I'm gonna put $55 to make 50 plus three and a half they will destroy the Seahawks and put up a lot of points in that game as far as my money line I'm gonna go with the Browns to cover our taxi win that game against Tampa going yeah with that underdog a baby dog and then as I think the Raiders gonna put up a lot of points and winning pony I'm gonna double down on that total and bet that for 25 by the way the biggest upset of the show nobody's even referenced my mustache yet and it's coming in it is coming in well Thanksgiving dinner is almost ready and I don't want to ruin my appetite Dave that's why I'm trying not to look at it I like the Texans Dave went on the soliloquy about big favorites in the NFL and then he took Miami so I'm a little bit confused by that about how big favorites don't cover I think Houston keeps it closer than 13 but I am with Dave on the Raiders I think the Raiders the Adams connection Seattle Rust maybe setting in I don't know maybe that Geno Smith pumpkin shows up I think the Raiders play it close and then the under in jets bears we don't know how healthy fields is are they gonna use them as much as a runner who's gonna start at quarterback for the jets with the Zach Wilson controversy the under is a great bet in that game all right you guys hit up the final sports book now to place your bets before kickoff and coming up on the show who knew the lowly lions were going to go on the road and beat the Giants I'll tell you Dan Campbell and James Jones yep he called the upset he is nailed the last two money line money makers so who's he putting on upset alert this week we'll tell you just after the break all right you guys know I'm all about that plus money so let's focus on a focus on some money line money makers right now yes upset alert time and we're giving them the bet moji treatment you're welcome America okay before we get James and Coles fix how about a shout out for James who picked the lions on the road last week nicely done all right it's a cheese for your pick in just a moment because Cole you're up first let's hear your upset special for this week Cole James even a broken clock is right twice a day but when it comes to my dog this week the Chargers five and five and they've been outscored this season by thirty one points and this is going to be a maker break game for Coach Staley and Company and I look at this one well it comes to job security implications for Cliff Kingsbury because Arizona still not for home win number two if they don't get it Kingsbury could be looking for some consulting work I think they keep them employed this week twenty four twenty Arizona they rise up as a dog in this one thanks pony you bet I'm with you Cole you know the Cardinals Cole yeah that's the problem you got some issues there in LA Cole they just played Monday Cole you got a chance to see them and you picking them today I was forced to pick a dog James all right James you're up you're up James who's your dog who's your dog my dog are my dogs and that is the Green Bay Packers to beat Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles right I'm trying to tell you guys I've seen this before I've started fourteen and oh I know how it looks when you start playing bad football and that is how it is looking right now for these Eagles they are starting to play bad football they are not in sync on the offensive side of the ball and this offense looked like they were unstoppable and Rodgers as an underdog I never like it I'm a believer in twelve and I think they get it done that's bad football the Packers wish they could play that kind of football that's bad the Packers I love that James I'm with you I'm riding with you baby let's go two in a row two in a row and they still don't believe in me man that's a shame shame yeah that's why we play the games alright awesome stuff if you agree with Cole or James you know what to do hit up the Fandall Sportsbook app right now to place your bets and get that plus money before kickoffs alright and that is a wrap that's week twelve it is here we've got you ready check out all the bets that we talked about and more on the Fandall Sportsbook app and remember we've got your back every single week join us Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday we're getting ready here on Fandall TV from all of us here at Fandall happy Thanksgiving week to you and your family enjoy the games we'll see you right back here 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