 What they gon' do with me now, I'm still a twerk of the town Got me the sisters, I'm hoakin' them down Hey everyone, my name is Enrique and you're tuned in to Talk of the Town Today with us we have Jamie Dolan Yeah, the man, the myth of the legend Man, the myth of the legend So to start off, I just wanted to do this little icebreaker thing we do called the rapid fire questions So I'll just rapidly fire out these questions and give me a rapid fire answer Oh man, alright I'm ready So, three things you'll take with you on an island Oh man Three things I'll take with me on an island Fuck That's tough Do you want me to come back to it? Yeah, let's come back to it, let's come back to them Alright, what is your biggest pet peeve? Biggest pet peeve Damn, I'm the worst when it comes to rapid fire Biggest pet peeve Fucking annoying people Listen, annoying people are annoying Exactly, stupid Not like educational stupid Just like fucking stupidity Yeah, just lack of common sense type shit Exactly What is one artist that you want to work with that you haven't already? Low baby Or 100% What's your favorite thing to do in New York City? Favorite thing to do in New York City? Honestly, it's just fucking Like being in a position where I could just walk anywhere I want to I just love to explore Hit stores and different shit I just love the ability to be able to hit different restaurants Just like go from A to Z in a matter of two seconds That's definitely what I love about New York for sure Yeah, it feels like the cultural hub of the universe It is, 100% 100% Alright, I'll ask you this again What's the last movie you saw? Last Last TV show Last TV show I watched was that The new show with Kelly Cuoco What the hell is it called? And Chris Messina Yeah, on Peacock I know what it is, I have no clue what it's called Yeah, I forget what it's called It's a serial killer show, but I watched that last The title is a question, right? Oh, yes, it's called Fuck it Oh, isn't it like how did we get here? Some shit like that? It's something like in your face It's like, yeah It was an entertaining show But it was very much like a It was a very in-your-face fucking title Yeah What's it called? So, you want to go back to the island question? Okay, island question I mean, obviously It would be nice to have the phone My partner And Probably my dad because He could fucking figure out just about anything No matter where you are And I need somebody that's very resourceful I think that would be helpful It definitely helps to have a handyman Exactly, yeah, and he is He's a do-it-all plumber So What's your favorite food? See, when it comes, I don't believe in favorites I'm very much, I'm so picky Stuff I love I don't necessarily have a favorite But like top three off the top that I could think of You know, probably Italian Japanese And I'll leave it at Italian and Japanese Actually, like those are, yeah Yeah, those are pretty good I can't have a lot of seafood, I'm allergic But Italian food Amazing I'm Italian, so it's gotta be grouped Yeah, you'd be like If you were missed if you didn't say Italian Like you, yeah, just about anything You could make Italian, too And you could make it good, so You could work with that Okay, what's your favorite Production experience? Or your favorite onset moment? Favorite onset moment Or memorable onset moment, since you don't like favorites too much Yeah, I don't, that's why I'm going to be the worst I mean I feel like my Favorite Experience, not even onset Would probably be A podcast I created just because of like The impact it had amongst the youth So that's definitely my most like Memorable experience of actually Making huge impact Yeah And last one New York or LA Come on Not even a fucking question You already know the fucking answer, New York Nah, I've loved for LA But like not for me, I lived there for many years But New York all the way for sure Okay, all right, cool, thank you That was rapid fire questions For a lot of people who don't know You are a multi-disciplinary creator You have hands in practically Like every form of production When it comes to like media What got you into that exactly? What was the moment For young Jamie that was like Oh, this is like, this is it This is what I want to do It's funny, because I always try to Trace back What brought me in this industry And I don't necessarily Know if I have the exact answer to that But like I trace it back To like, so from a young age I feel like my escape, because I didn't grow up in a very Like I grew up in Farakaway And now it's very art forward But when I grew up it was not And for like, I was always a movie head So I watched a lot of Scorsese growing up And I felt like movies were my escape So before I actually was educated On what meant what, like director Producer, blah blah blah I was like, I want to be on screen I want to be involved in this And I feel like that idea is really What like set me forward I was like, oh, I want to be on screen I want to be in the movies And then from there, you know, rest is history But like that's really like the Initial point where I was like I want to be in entertainment and sort of pursuing it Because I was like, I need to be in movies And I love movies and they were my escape From that journey Did you realize that like Not necessarily like had the Or like were better at being behind the screen But like that was like a really Fulfilling and gratifying part of it For sure, that's an easy answer So between the ages of 16 and 18 I made my first feature film I wrote produced and starred in it And it was really like me doing that as a vehicle To get my name out there as an actor Because I was just like, I didn't like the idea Of having no power waiting around Like, you know, I don't come from money or Any sort of nepotism in which like You know, I'd have opportunities Handing me, I knew not a soul in the industry So I was like, I need to create my own work To get seen and get known So I worked on this film To be my like vehicle As an actor And then, you know, I did everything for it I cast it, I put the whole project together For virtually no money And post that project I was like I loved producing because I'm like Executing and making shit happen No matter what it is And I just had like a great eye for talent Behind the camera and all of that And that was the moment that I realized I'm a producer, I make shit happen I love being in a position to Support and champion the people That I believe in You know? And now I never look back from that moment Wow, yeah, and I mean like You've done so much too As a result of that It was a crazy journey From going to Far Rockaway Not knowing anybody To now, shit It's like, you know, almost everybody That's a funny thing, I saw people look Half the time people think I'm like a fucking nebo baby I'm like, I'm the poster child of The flip side of that I'm like so far from it It's just fucking Busted my ass for some I'm still busting my ass I don't think anything is easy and sweet But yeah, no, it's just like Honestly just hustling every medium To and not being closed off to just like Oh, I'm like a movie guy You know, I capitalize on any sort of Medium where it made sense to Like I always love exploring different Formats Do you have a preference like for medium Or is it just like wherever there's a camera And like something that needs to be Done, you'll take care of it I mean, like I'm a Movie buff, like I love movies But more and more as time has gone on I've realized how much Passion I have for short form Just because like short form Tackles so many Short form consist Consist of music videos to like Just like social media To this, to that So I just love the short form space And I feel like it's a lot more rewarding In the immediate and I have more freedom In that space, but I definitely love Movies more than anything But I like being in the short form space And being able to make the movies Like, you know, focus on the movies I want to make Versus like when I was younger Just like only wanting to pursue movies Now like my brain has opened up so much more To just like short form media In general because it's so powerful Okay, so okay Let's say on the topic of short form media You recently Actually were in charge of executing All eight visuals For Fabio Foren's recent tape And one of those included Kanye West Right? So I want to ask like a two-fold question One, the first being What was it like having all of that Like well rather being in charge of all of that And having to get it all done And then I guess the second part would be Like did you get to work with Kanye? Not directly Not directly, but I mean Shout out to Prophet and shout out to Jay For those whole visuals But It was a wild, it was like It was definitely a different experience Because usually Like when working on any sort of creative project Especially with like a big artist There's a lot of creative input And a lot of opinions But for this specifically It was very much like Fabio was doing this on his own time He wanted to put this out himself Like he didn't deal with the label or anything And his manager Jerry Had come to me and was just like You know we have all these songs We don't have any specific direction Like you guys do your thing So we had creative freedom which was fucking beautiful Because that's rare But we also had like under two weeks to do all of that Of course like if you know the animation space At all and 3D specifically Like one visual Should take a week plus to do So it was very much like And we had lyrics incorporated with that So like you know Prophet is amazing Of what he does in the 3D space And Jay did all of the you know lyrics For it But it was very difficult but it was rewarding In the sense that we had creative freedom To like explore what we wanted to explore You know we just battled time Which was very difficult Yeah wow I could imagine Because like yeah just putting together Animation in general takes so long Especially if it's just like a small team of people So to have to do 8 And then like When budget is tight and time is tight It's like yeah you don't have any sports Everything and the others doing everything else And I'm just overseeing it entirely That makes it very difficult If you have two weeks to do 8 visuals And you have 30 people working for you Obviously you know a lot more feasible But that was definitely a challenge And we achieved it And yeah it was fun Wow so like in that process What was your hand exactly Like how What was like The moment by moment process You were in charge of when it came to doing all that So I was like the liaison So basically like profit 3D animator I manage And him and I would go back and forth On ideas per song And try to like coordinate a creative And then I would let him do his thing Creatively and then I would Oversee it and make sure It met like you know The threshold that like we wanted to achieve And that we were happy with And also that you know I knew that The artist side would be happy with So I was like I was very hands on In terms of like the creative And making sure everything went smoothly Everything met the standards That I have, that he has That the artist has And just like keeping things on time Like which is difficult So it's very much just like Trying to maneuver things As smoothly as possible But keeping the creative integrity We all have I mean like I've seen some other interviews of yours And I don't know if it's something like you want to rehash But I know a lot of people like always ask you Like what does a producer do So is that something like you want to You like to specify? I'm always happy to talk about What a producer does because I'm so Tired of like I'm so tired of the Misconception of what a producer does Because it's like Everyone deserves their flowers That are behind the scenes because Like we all put in so much work that Just like whether it goes Or not there's a lot of like Just like isn't education around So much stuff so now it's like people here produce Especially in the music space for example In the music space people here are producers And they're like oh he made the beat And it's like no Like actually not like there's the music producers That make beats and then there's producers That are responsible for executing Everything from A to Z So it's like if you see a visual for example For an artist The producer's duty is to take everything From like the treatment to life And like working with the director Hand in hand to make sure that We're both on the same page creatively That we're both meeting the standard that You know we want to achieve To making sure you know to hire everybody To like literally overseeing everything A to Z producers like we're on board From this like very beginning To the end and you know depending On the case like usually like you work closely With the director and same with them But yeah producers are responsible For everything the liability is on us Like we sign the contracts If something goes wrong we're you know We're held liable for it And we make this shit happen And when budgets are tight who has to make That shit happen the producers we have to Pull the favors and when budgets are big too We have to execute everything A to Z so And that applies to film everything as well It's like all A to Z whether if you're Doing film you may be like Doing that like creatively As well as raising money And there's different forms of producers But yeah producer all in all Is like the fucking driving force Behind everything and keeping everyone happy At the same time too Oh wow yeah I feel like I was definitely One of the people who was under The misconception that When you have that title of producer It's Like just like in the fiscal sense You know like you're funding a lot of things And like I guess I thought there was like Some kind of coordination too involved But I didn't really have like a good idea of it What it is no for sure And especially in film people have that People have that misconception Because there is certain like Like usually in film an executive producer Is the person that's bringing the money There's certain there's different things That people can do to get an EP Credit but generally speaking An EP credit entails Bringing the money to that project And like in film producer Is the highest position of power So if you make a film and it's an Oscar For best picture Producers get like the producers Not the EPs the producers get The Oscar In music videos it's kind of a flip Where EPs Are the highest position Because usually that And that basically means like say music video Commissions me to do it with my company I'm the executive producer of that music Video and depending on budget I'll either produce it myself Or I'll like hire outsourced producers To like do it on the ground But I'll still be overseeing Executing everything and making sure I sign off on everything And that has nothing to do with You know money at all So it's like kind of like per Like field there's different There's different like variables to it Oh wow okay wow thank you for that Yeah that was like That was great that was like a perfect definition The different like variables That could lead to like the different definitions Like wow There's a lot to it there's a lot A lot more to it than people think That's why I'm always happy to explain it And educate people on it because Especially if you're in the industry Whether you're an artist whether you're No matter what you are you should know What position means what Especially the driving forces of These visuals these creatives Like without producers these things don't exist And if you don't have a producer You know it's probably just like You know fucking type of vibe And like whatever and that's fine too But like once you get to a certain level Like you'll have the producers that Drive everything forward Okay wow yeah no thank you for that So you mentioned Like your production company Correct me if I'm wrong it's called New York Sir Got it on the shirt How did that become about like what was A what was the inception behind New York So I've been producing for over 10 I'm 27 now I've been producing since I was Super young and over The years I've had different companies With different people And then I produced independently Just off of my name for a long time And throughout that entire process You know a lot of things didn't work out Like creative differences with people But I was building an empire Through my name But I always like wished I always wanted to have just like one company Where everything lived under That was the empire I had built So I feel like Like Late last year I was having a realization I was like I need to start a new company That represents everything That I do already And want to continue to do Versus just being my name New York Is obviously a play on New York And you know the famous And I just felt like it represented Me to a T And the style of work that I create And the people I work with on all levels Yeah and I decided to run with it And it's just like for so many years I've been patching and making stuff happen Connecting this artist with this person This actress with this agent Like all of the above and I'm like I was doing a lot of this thing just because I have a genuine heart and like I'd like to see People I believe in win But I was like I need to have some sort of Like it's like if I'm gonna take my time to do things I need to like have some sort of like Manager aspect to it as well So I was like I'll start a company And once I produce everything I do Everything that comes my way And also like work with Like on a manager standpoint Work with directors I want to work with Work with creators, creators I want to work with And gain from it as well And be growing them together and actually have real motive And passion to do so So that was kind of like The factor of like bringing this all together And putting it under one empire And then growing that up New York while it's a newly formed company This year it's still a representation Of everything I've built the past 10 plus years So what are some projects You've done so far under the New York Moniker, label Name I mean obviously you know You just talked about the Favio project That's one under the New York Banner I did this project with the band Blonde Redhead starring Peyton List which is soon to come out It's like a music film Kind of Just did a project with Big Body Bez That's soon to drop Got a video with the V's And his album drops Ganger and we're one of the first visuals off the album And like that I'm very excited about There's a bunch of random projects That I've been doing and a lot of stuff I'm building And I have a bunch of film stuff Beyond closed doors that we're developing In this space and then outside of that Too it's just like directors That I'm piecing together with projects And even creators I represent some social influencers Like this one kid Connor Mather Who started the MPC trend He's a real life MPC He was just out in the city And we just had some deals with some brands Oh, he's the kid Cause I saw that on your story He's the kid who does the videos But it's like got like almost like a GTA Exactly, yeah, he literally started that whole trend Yeah So, yeah I'm doing a lot of work Beyond closed doors of like growing creators Directors and even, you know, animators And stuff Wow, yeah, holy shit The company is as expansive And as multifaceted as you are That's awesome, holy shit Yeah, bringing people together With throwing events, like doing stuff In the art world, like there's a lot of stuff That's going on behind closed doors that we're like Pushing forward Yeah, that you guys are really excited for Nice, you wanna What kind of stuff? Just meaning like, you know, like really Cause with my company, my biggest thing is community So like I'm always trying To bring people together You know, whether they're at the start of their career Or like very well on their career Even with the event that you came to The other day with just like Yeah, I'm just like there's a lot of stuff that I'm like Pushing forward, like behind closed doors Of like trying to connect the community And bring people together and how people like Learn the ends of the industry And people that come from like Areas that aren't privileged and don't have The guidance or resources To know where to begin I didn't have any of that and I know a lot of the people around me Don't have that and I'm Always trying to be A resource for that Yeah, absolutely I think that's so cool because Yeah, I feel like I definitely Before I got into The industry, even then I feel like I'm still like very much on the cusp Like on the outside, like looking in still I'm one of those people I didn't really have very many resources All I knew was that I could write and I've been writing Everything but like music Music journalism like anything that was like Outside of the music field for the most part Like I wrote about and Now I feel like I'm seeing a lot More of that too, you know people who are very Willing to like help people out Put people onto a lot of things, you know Like not gatekeep I feel like that's a really important thing It is and I look I want to see more Of it because I mean I constantly I constantly see nothing But gatekeeping and Even with major artists that Like come from the city it's just like If you've made it and you're in the position to help people And educate people like I feel like It's always a constant I talk about this a lot It's like everybody is like So Like so quick to capitalize Off the hype of artists but then They get locked up for some like real shit Like that all fizzles out And it's like Like people are in positions to like Event that and help educate and help guide The youth To better and safer Futures But it's not always about the numbers and the Financial gain of it so I'd love to see more of that and there's definitely A lot of people out there doing it but like That's something I try to push because You know it affects me first hand And I'm just like I'm tired of seeing like the Clout chasing fucking element of everything And it's just like do good Like educate people if you're in a position of power Like give back Even it could be a simple thing it could be fucking talking to someone Like start a program that you don't even run You have 5 million people that have fucking work for you Like send someone out to like And stamp your name to it and like help like Provide resources like you know Like especially in New York like we have so many Areas and borrows around New York That are fucking struggling and there's no guidance And there's so much talent out there Kids just need guidance You saw Kay Flock made a huge post about it Like you know he's fighting for his life Yeah And he's talking about guidance What he's doing is great for speaking up To that because most people You know especially The stuff he's involved in like don't have the courage To speak up about that Because they think it may like affect their image But he's being real about it you know So I just would love to see more of that Yeah wow there's a lot to unpack there Because it's actually like One of my questions or at least like I'm very adjacent to one of my questions Because like you said like a lot of these young kids That are rapping especially like in the drill rap scene Like they live in these conditions That aren't good They're forced to do things that Aren't really good either you know And it's so fucked up that We like as a collective You know like we live in a culture Where those kinds of things Like those negative images Are pushed onto people And then like labels come and Realize off of that stuff like crazy So I know I saw like another interview you did Where you were like it's a really passionate topic Or rather it's a topic you're really passionate about And I was just wondering like Is that like still Do you still have like those same feelings on the state of hip hop Where like this kind of stuff like just does not change For sure No I mean I definitely do because At the end of the day it's like It's like if you could get behind Something that you're not Even educated or aware Of what's being like Said in like the real like Like the real life actions that are Behind things and you're just Solely involved in it for the Financial gain of it that's a problem I'm not saying that's everyone because there is Plenty of like leaders in the industry that Are working with these artists that actually Are from the streets and understand the streets And like give them a platform and like Talk to them and not like you know An older brother figure to being like I've been here I've done time For this stuff like there is people like that But you know on a Grand scope most people I have to people at work with some of these artists Do not have never been Like in the hood of day in their life so it's like It's like you know that's saying A lot to be working with someone and like Not actually be in a position to So there's levels To there's levels to it I just try to open the conversation Up of like people Educating themselves more and trying to Be like more More of like a guidance For young people because a lot of kids do Get involved in stuff so young and just don't Have like they don't have a shoulder to Fuck and they don't have somebody to come to and talk to And be like look like I'm stuck in this fucking Situation I do not know what to do And this is the only thing I know like how do I get at People don't have that and you know And it's said that people only Maybe get that if they Are talking like are successful Because there's so many kids out there that are more Like there's kids out there that are more talented Than fucking the most mainstream Artist now that don't even have the Guidance resources or anything to get I know so many of those people that are Just like I'm like how aren't you fucking a Star by now they don't know anything Like they're just stuck there and they don't And most people that are in a position They don't really care to hear you out as Much unless you have like the numbers And like I get that like this business Back to it but like a lot of people Are in positions to like kind of like bridge the gap Like you know there's got to be a little bit of both So I just I just try to push That conversation because I want to see more of it Like I'm not like I'm not judging I'm not coming at people like I'll happily Have a conversation with anyone I happily Led myself to get involved with any of that Like I'm actually just passionate about it I want to see that change like you know Because I see the people struggle in there And yeah there's so much talent out there Like everybody like yeah it'd be Beautiful to see those people fucking Win and get away from like the shit That they're caught in Yeah it's just fucking it's upsetting No absolutely there's room to grow There's no denying that there's room to grow We just need people to come forward and talk about it And be open to doing it there's plenty of people Out there like so like this is This is what I'm saying Let's come forward hit me up let's Fucking be a part of the movement like you know Yeah no because like it's I feel like being here in New York where The drill scene Was like super prevalent for a very long time And still like to a degree has like a foothold Here Yeah it's like it's so much more than Just a drill too you know you have so many mainstream Artists like Fetty Wab for example You know like Thug for example Like so many people Y&W Melly for example Like there's so much stuff going on and it's While it's not necessarily the same Exact situation every time There's always those Comparable elements you know That you could be like well Labels not helping out Labels capitalizing off of a terrible situation And then like when these things do Happen and they do get put in these bad situations It's almost like they're Like alright bye we'll pay for your legal defense If that but I've heard plenty of stories like that I haven't been personally involved in that But I've heard plenty of stories like that And that's fucked up Those what your initial motives were But like if you That's why I wanted there should be There should be departments that are dedicated To like you know the human Resources of it all like you know There definitely shouldn't be guidance And programs or whatever there is but You know a lot of these people Like do well and then they get You see big like you're saying like Thug Like look at Casanova for example Casanova you know he's been bad on the system A long time he came out Like he was doing good he was doing so well For himself and the minute like he got To the top like they stripped him of everything Like now he's fighting for his fucking life You know and like he was Actually being a voice to these younger people Like he was trying to help educate but like you know He was caught up in stuff that he was caught up in Like you know but And then like people quickly forget And then like they're like oh he goes like You know and that's fucked like that's fucked up It's just like we should Like keep the same energy we have In the start with people that we believe in And it shouldn't just be like only about Gain like you know there should be more To it and there is more to it So it's like I don't know when we came To that point as a society but like That shit needs to fucking go cause that's not it Like there's no growth in that And we're gonna all be scratching Our heads until that fucking changes Of like oh why is this happening Why did this happen to him why did this happen to her Like I mean like he's telling you straight up Like he's spitting his fucking heart out In a fucking song and you think it's a joke And then fucking Yeah it's not that much of a joke It's crazy because it almost feels Like an unsustainable business model For these labels to be Signing these kids and it's not like They're not like unaware of the situation anyway You know like they're they know And then when these kids get in trouble They're kind of just like They peace out but then on top of that Like that being a business model And then someone them popping off and then Like no longer being able to make music Just to go on to the next person and Basically repeat that process almost Just like what buck are you making Exactly there's so much More in the longevity of it Like there's so much more Not only like money If that's like the focus of money There's so much more money in the longevity of it But there's also so much growth in society By like actually Like you know these people are in positions To do that That's why it just doesn't make sense to me Like I'm not going to sit here And like scrutinize or fucking judge But I'm just I'm actually curious Like I'd be so happy for someone to come to me And give me the answer because I'm curious Because this shit does not add up for me It doesn't make sense I'm curious Genuinely curious If somebody like if we can get a label exec over here Give us like The ABCs one two threes of it all Let's do it I want to see the action I hear so I've heard so much shit over here I want to see the action Instead of some social media Post saying you stand with somebody Stand with them, like I support them Are you there for court Or you like stand with them If you are fucking I amend you Like need more people like you Straight out Absolutely What's it called I touched on the long form stuff before Well actually no not really I didn't but I wanted to move to it So You being a film producer You were recently at Cannes What was that like That was awesome And if you know like Cannes is the cream of the crop It doesn't get bigger than Cannes That's one of the most prestigious places to be Especially with a feature film And I remember Like Two weeks before Like I was living in LA For a few years I just moved back I was living above restaurant The restaurant burnt down the whole building I lost everything I fucking owned Super crazy And at the time I was hanging out with a friend And they were like oh what's your dream festival And I was like obviously Cannes I played pretty much every other festival But Cannes is the cream of the crop And I didn't want to premiere at Cannes And I was involved To agree on this film And you know it was just like A long waiting process cause Covid happened And they were waiting to like Do an in person festival And the dream they always had the dream Of going to Cannes but you know As is everybody And then I remember Getting the news and it was just the best feeling And I was like I had lost everything And I'm like I'm really not in a position trying But I had to because I'm like this is like a one This is like an opportunity Especially at my age to be a part of A film in any capacity That's premiering at Cannes in competition Is huge That was a great fucking feeling That was awesome, that was very exciting And just to walk the red carpet And all of the kids from the reservation In South Dakota They managed to put together their money To get them flown out to Cannes Which was incredible And they left South Dakota So in fact they got to leave the country And be at Cannes for the movie that's about their real lives Was fucking beautiful So it was just a very rewarding feeling To see that happen, it was beautiful Yeah I could imagine, that directly ties into What you were just talking about too Giving these people the opportunity to come See these things that they wouldn't have been able to otherwise For sure, there was so many great people on that film Me, my friend Alaynaur And a few other people They were very like hands on They lived with these kids They spent months, they still to this day do it But her, myself And a bunch of other people raised money for them On the reservation, they could have like a Christmas To build up their shacks To do all this stuff And to this day they're still involved I had a big part in helping them then But they never left these kids sides To this day, they're still like You call them, they'll answer in two seconds They spend a lot of their time Out of the year, but like no financial gain Just because they're passionate about it So it's very beautiful to see A story like that come to screen And have people behind it That are so passionate about these kids And actually care And for that to carry on Outside of just what is beneficial And to actually shine light on these kids' lives Because now they're getting attention And stuff is happening And a long way to go But sorry The page is turning for that So overall Fucking beautiful experience What I'm sorry So for the people who don't know Jamie is talking about the film Warpony Do you want to Just give like a little synopsis On what it's about for the viewers Yeah, so basically Warpony Takes place on this reservation In South Dakota Of these young Native American Kids that literally have Like nothing They barely even have shelter And it's just like this beautiful Coming-of-age story of these kids And their families and the struggles And like hardships they go through Like prospering in life But there's like so much like Turbulence throughout it It's just like a very beautiful story And it's all like based off of What really happens there Like Riley Keough Who's a very successful actress And the great-granddaughter Or granddaughter, one of the two You know, obviously in a great position To be able to like help these kids She wrote the story With people from the reservation To make sure that It lived to The actuality of their lives And everyone in the film Is from the reservation And they only cast real people from the reservation So really just like Put the people in a position To tell their story Wow Beautiful Yeah, no, that's amazing I feel like it's great too It feels so poignant because I feel like there's been a lot of Or at least like a larger number Of movies with like an indigenous persons Like it's just like their story You know, even if it's not a movie It's just like TV shows Like reservation dogs for example Like I feel like it's so Necessary too is As film feels like Now more than ever Like it's so much more accessible Like you can see so many more stories on screen That you might not have seen 20, 30 years ago Yeah, it's beautiful to see how far We've come in society of like Telling all sorts of stories From all different backgrounds And cultures like you know And especially to those that really need that Like this film Their whole idea like this is like They're saving grace like it gives them a fighting chance You know, it might not be the exact answer Like the full answer In that you know It's not like everything is going to change In a matter of a second but like that gives them a chance To like be heard to be seen To reach the masses Like the film just opened up internationally It opened up In a bunch of theaters in the UK And you know soon have a US premiere But like you know I'm sure they never thought that they'd be seeing themselves In their fucking stories told And you know in multiple different countries So that's beautiful and that's progress Wow, that's amazing And it feels like that's like That's why you do it too, you know To have that kind of impact Wow, that's amazing What's it called? Sorry I thought I had to burp Yeah, no absolutely Hold on Oh excuse me I wanted to ask one question What is a lesson that I feel like I was initially going to ask it earlier Kind of about like just your whole experience In the industry but now that we're on the subject Of warpony and like the result Of everything and what it's become What is one lesson I feel like you've learned from this project Or even like in the industry in general That you're definitely going to bring With you moving forward into all your other projects Damn Like where the fuck to begin I've learned so many lessons in this industry Every instance is a fucking lesson And I gotta think on this for a second Michael Oh that's tough It's just like I think my Grand overall lesson In today's day I stand by it You know everyone's different And it may have brought me More struggles than not But my overall lesson is always saying Staying true to myself And my creative integrity Just like my life integrity That's one thing I've never I've never like Dropped or Compromised for anyone I've always been true to myself And anyone that knows me knows that But I think the biggest lesson Within that is I've been in instances Where people have been screwed over By people that I thought Like were good people And that I always had Right intentions towards Shit happened and my lesson throughout That is like even through all of those Struggles and trouble And hardships it may have brought me Like the most rewarding thing Was staying true to myself because at the end of the day Like I don't sit around Feeling bad about Myself or Or feeling like oh I Like no because I'm always true to myself So it's like even if something isn't exactly how I want it Like I feel Content within Big lesson is like staying true to what you believe And even if it takes a little bit more time And to yourself because if not You will be miserable and I know so many people That are miserable because they compromised And stuff that like Didn't sit with them Like they turned their fucking Like gut in that moment But they had to do it And that's one thing I never Did But I've learned lessons From that by staying to that Just dealing with shitty people So I feel like As a whole that's a Big thing for me Wow, thank you so much That was an amazing answer I want to ask one last thing I feel like you could piggyback off of it a little bit Because it's somewhat adjacent to it But To anybody who is an aspiring creator Be it an actor Director, videographer Anyone who is looking to get into The media industry or entertainment industry in general What is one piece of advice You would give to them? It's always a great question because everyone's like Go create Make something But like truly Is It's like creating your own lane Because now I mean my answer Five years ago would have been different Than my answer is today Because now we have Access to just about everything From TikTok to YouTube To Instagram to like You have a million to twitch To fucking rumble We have access to so many different platforms To create And I feel like TikTok is the prime example Of what's possible by just being yourself And creating your own content And not everything clicks right away It takes time and sometimes it does click Right away but that doesn't mean that What you're doing and what they're What someone's doing is better than yours It's really like Following my last answer Is like staying true to yourself And creating content within that space Whether you're a photographer At the last event I did I had photographers coming up to me That are doing well talking to me You know I'm shooting photos for a lot of big people Like what do I do I don't know what to do next I really believe in like It's like staying true to yourself And creating within your lane What's in front of you And that may sound like fucking bullshit Because you're like how do I make money out of this I get that I hear that I'm no one different than I have the same struggles and battles As everyone and hustling things And making money and making a living When you don't have people that are Panging for your life But it's like if you want to be a creator It's like being open to Creating on all platforms Being open to learning from people Where you think that You're better than anyone Learning from the people that have done stuff That you appreciate Taking advice Finding mentors Finding other people that are creative As well that align with what you're creating It's really like building community Because if you could build community You could build upon that And then you could transition that to money You could transition that to success Whatever it be It's really just like Running within your lane And building that community around you And you have to be in it for the long term Like If you're in it just because Or you want instant gratification You're in the wrong industry And even if you get instant gratification You're going to be fucking miserable after the fact Because it's not truly What sits within you morally Of what you want to do You're just doing it because of other I think it's really, yeah You need to have longevity Within your plan You know But I think if you build that community around you And stay creative You couldn't fucking grow People do it You work with like They build the community within themselves They build a bunch of loyal people that are passionate about stuff And grow That didn't happen overnight Stuff takes time to grow And people see Oh my god People are spending years And years of unspoken About the moments and struggles To get there Even with artists People are like He's not even good Or whatever they'll say Some of these artists May have been working For five years With zero views That stuff is discouraging When I first had my podcast I had fucking hella famous people In the early episodes So it began with 70 downloads Of fucking episodes And then that transition Of millions of fucking downloads And that doesn't mean everything I do does But you know There's always going to be those discouraging moments And it's about fighting through them And if you believe in yourself And build a community around you And vice versa Yeah absolutely Thank you so much You were just like one after the other With these fucking like gold nuggets The wise man I don't know which camera is on me But I hope you guys are paying attention Because this is Especially from somebody who has so much experience In the industry And not even just the industry as a whole It's like so many different facets And so many different levels of the industry Of course And shout out respective Definitely A little plug Shout out respective I agree, I feel like that community aspect Is so important to being creative Because I take it from a writer's perspective I can't really do much If there's nothing for me to write about And knowing people Who are ANRs Or managers, videographers, photographers And artists themselves That opens up that lane to Definitely it allows me to get more work Or more things to do But building those relationships with those people In turn will help them out too Everybody gets put on For sure, and that's why it's like It really comes down to people being open minded Because even at this point I still battle having to Educate people on stuff And other artists in town or whatever That they do not Give a fucking second glance And that's a constant battle People just need to be more open minded We got to a time where There's so much ego And involved In everything where it's like If I did not find that It's not a thing for me It's such bullshit People need to open their fucking minds more To everything I've said in this interview A lot would change If people do that There's more people that don't And especially people of power In certain industries There just needs to be way more of that There's way more of that There would be so much growth There would be so much growth I feel like collaboration Is one of the Key pillars It's just in the heart and soul of community Let me phrase that, creativity But also community It's both, that's hand in hand That all ties together And once people Realize that They'll go so much further It took me a while to realize that too I've always been a community person But collaboration Not thinking that No matter what you've achieved Not thinking that just because you've done something That you're above people Or you can't learn from someone Just because I've achieved this That's done nothing Everyone has different wisdom To offer different experiences To offer that People can grow from I just see so much of that And I would love to see a change in that Of people being more open-minded And more open-eared To others Because I swear There's so much to learn I love learning I love being taught something I love being fucking schooled And I love educating people as well Yeah Wow, thank you so much This has been a great conversation Honestly, it hasn't even felt like an interview It just felt like us talking The mic just happened to be in front of us With all these cameras on But man Again, thank you so much for coming out here I really appreciate it Is there anything like Upcoming, I know you spoke about it a little bit But do you just want to put them on again One more time? I mean, so I have a bunch of projects up Upcoming Most pressing And the quickest to be coming out Is hopefully this V's Video I did I did a video off the new Ganger album It was dropping in a few days We have a visual off that coming out We have a visual off of Big Body Bez's new album I had this mini fashion I made that's so fucking sick We're looking to premiere within the next month Or so There's plenty more coming But in the immediate Those are a few things And then Follow the socials More in tune And then I have a few social media shows I run with music and street Shows, a lot of content coming out Somewhere on that stuff Can you tell the people where to find you? Yeah, so Jamie M. Dolan on Instagram And New York on Instagram And that pretty much applies To every possible Fucking channel Literally Yeah, so Jamie M. Dolan or New York That's where you go Awesome, Jamie again, thank you so much It's been a great conversation You've been a great interview And honestly, I just I hope to have you back again for more Next time, we'll come back with more juice Thank you, man Thank you