 We should be coming in live and knocking out Chelsea from her live stream hosting on our channel. Let's check it out. We should be coming in. Let's do a little refresh and we're live. Nice. Hi everyone. This is Chijo. Welcome to my channel and welcome to another live stream. Today is September 13th 2020 Sunday 8 p.m. PDT Pacific Time West Coast Canada United States and we're doing a live stream open discussion on investing and personal finance and we've done a few of these over the years or last two three years. 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not put our all our eggs in the in a partnership that the partner might be not interested or doing some shenanigans smoothie drinker how are you doing hello hello hey hey one two four six four four five six eight hey where's three and seven what's going on you threw me off welcome welcome little sticks tv how are you doing welcome welcome hope you guys are doing well investing guns a lot of people have been for sure a lot of people have been because investment is just not about how what percent you're gonna get every year or dividends you're gonna get it's not about fiat currency growth investing also means investing in your health investing in your security investing in your community investing in your family investing in your peace of mind investing in your well-being right so for sure and there are certain guns like collectibles that are worth investing and i'm pretty sure i'm not a gun collector so i don't know what the price increases have been but i'm pretty sure that there are certain guns that have increased in price dramatically invest in land and gold uh mark metals how are you doing investing in land is an extremely long term or a long term projection um that has worked in the past okay but as far as i see it's certain and it really as far as investing in land the the mantra is location location location period location location location uh so really depends on the location if you bought a house in detroit uh what is it 40 years ago you would have gone bankrupt right and gold is a hedge uh it's it's not a bad idea to have a portfolio in gold lonely pig a chicho good evening to you we have gone over snacks and drinks no we haven't gone over snacks and drinks i'm here let me show you today i got uh i'm doing i'm really enjoying the dry toast so i'm drying you know toasting um just bread that i get and it comes out like crackers it's crunchy and this is a blackberry jam the bottom of the blackberry jam that you know was left over that i'm not uh jarring so i jarred a whole bunch i posted some pictures right we went and harvested some blackberry jam and this is the bottom of it and it's really thick it tastes amazing like it's one of the best blackberry jams i've made right like super good and it it's really good as just spoons but i don't eat too much of this you just taste a little bit i just felt like having a little bit of that blackberry tanginess right and you know you can pop a piece of bread toast or just dip your bread in your jam right and eat it up it's really good fantastic i was actually gonna go harvest more blackberries or forage for more blackberries today but it's just too smoky like we're in victoria west coast of canada and the fires in the united states the smoke that's coming up is insane here i've never seen it like this for 40 years i've never seen it like this 42 years i've been here i've never seen it like this and i got pineapple liqueur very delicious salut everyone and i have tea in water as well sort of lukewarm tea because i don't want to drink anything cold and then hit it up with hot right lukewarm tea and a glass of water i like my tea i like my tea sharyl how are you doing i hope you guys have good snacks as well a fair bit of people popping in i haven't done my intro yet this is all almost never a bad investment almost depends if you bought a house in certain parts of north america in the 1980s it would have taken you 20 years to pull your money out right it would have been in early 2000s you could have invested in better things right so real estate is not bad but it really depends on location depends on your time frame it depends on a lot of things it depends if there's better opportunities out there right it really depends are you in a bubble should you be liquidating you do need a permanent residence to live in right gang i'm going to do my intro i'm sorry if i'm going to be missing some of the chat if there's anything directed towards me please let me know gang i'm going to 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So it looks like there might be deep platforming people based on what they do off of YouTube, which is like draconian on so many of the levels. It's beyond even a discussion. Like you can't even begin to grasp what authoritarian power believes that they have the right to dictate what you do, what you say, how you are and how you choose to be off of their platform, right? Either way, we'll ride it for as long as we can. Gang, welcome to another live stream. Investing and personal finance, and I know I missed a lot of chitter chatter, a lot of chat going on. So my apologies. I'm gonna scroll up and see if there's anything directed towards me. I'm just gonna read it, speedy Gonzales. Style, style, that lonely piggy. Have you sampled some of the peach liqueur? At least I think it was peach. I haven't made any peach yet. I plan on making peach and I didn't get to it. We missed the opportunity to buy a flat of peach from a local farm. We just couldn't get there. They were showing up in different places and you could just go by and buy your flat of peach and we missed it, unfortunately. Pineapple liqueur, oh my. I drink the entire thing, Spider-Man. Trust me, there's a reason why I have a lot of different liqueurs so I don't go ballistic on one liqueur and just go crazy on it. Dava-shh. Dava-shh-pendi. Hey, chichou, good morning. Sisis, morning in India. Good morning, India. How are you doing? And it's evening for us. How many hours difference? Iran is 12 hours while certain parts of Iran. So I'm assuming you're 14 hours difference than me? And I was scrolling down the gang. I don't see any chichos. Okay, I'm all the way down to the bottom gang. Now that I did the intro, there's a lot of stuff going on on both political front, economic front, environmental front on every front. So to continue with just what Mark Meadows mentioned about land and gold, right? Gold is a hedge against inflation for sure. And it's a hedge against fiat currency. It's a hedge against what most central governments in the Western world are doing. And other countries as well, they're flooding their economies with, I don't know, what do you call it? Do you call it money anymore? You can't call it money, it's currency. It's trying to introduce liquidity into the markets, right? But what's happening is they're giving money to their own people. So that's not filtering through the general population other than little breadcrumbs, right? Here, they throw a little bit of breadcrumbs your way, my way, our way, right? And right now people are feeling, oh, some people are getting a little bit of income and stuff like that, they're feeling still not bad. There are some people that are hurting bad, right? So gold is a good hedge against that. Land could have been a good hedge against that. However, what's happening in certain parts of the world, okay, especially in the Western world, they're gonna start increasing taxes on land because governments are cash strapped, right? Bonds are a bad idea to be in, right? So if you own land, you're locked in, and if you bought at a higher rate, right, higher price than what the market value is, because sometimes it goes down, right? If you decide to sell, and if everybody decides to sell, then there's gonna be a problem. You're gonna be on the hook for a certain amount of money that you owe to the bank, okay? If you don't decide to hook, you know, sell to pull out, hopefully you're riding it up again, right? Then you might have to, you might be dealing with a lot of taxes coming in because you own that land, right? So there are periods in our current economic system where liquidity matters greatly, okay? And I think we're in one of those periods right now. So cash will soon be banned. Yeah, there are a lot of governments that are trying to, that are rolling out something to digitize all their currencies, right? If you live in a country where they ban cash, it's a good idea to start making plans to get out of that country, okay? You don't have to do it speedy Gonzales, but it's a good idea that you get into the mindset thinking that, you know what? There are periods throughout human history where mass migration has occurred because totalitarian governments have taken control of certain nations and in the limit those governments commit genocides and you don't wanna become a statistic, right? If cash is banned, that means a centralized power can monitor everything you do. How many shits you take in the bathroom? How many bottles of water you drink? Okay, everything, everything, everything. It is extremely dangerous. And come on, Chico, hi from Norway. Do you have any thoughts on the global stock market doing above expectations despite the pandemic this year? Well, the expectation. It's a bubble, first of all. In the US and Canada, less of a bubble than the US, but Canada's a bubble too, but I mainly monitor the US stock market, right? Like for example, the Dow Jones market cap, right? So Dow Jones tracks the top 30 stocks in the United States or not top 30, but tracks 30 companies, right? So they introduce certain companies into the Dow and they, it's part of the basket and they track those numbers, right? And they bring it at a certain market cap and stuff like this. Right now, unless I got my numbers wrong, okay? Apple and Microsoft relative to market cap and a cousin, my cousin actually informed me of this, right? I think Apple is weighted as 12%, Microsoft was weighted as 5% or something like that. But in terms of market cap, Apple and Microsoft comprise 40% of the Dow Jones, right? 40% of the Dow is, of market cap of Dow is Apple and Microsoft. That's insane, right? So the US stock market is in a bubble, right? Can it go higher? Almost definitely because it just flooded in the last year, last few months, they flooded Wall Street with trillions of dollars more, right? Is every stock gonna go up? No, there's some legacy companies that are gonna collapse and go done. Commodities might go up, gold, silver and whatnot. Certain foods, as long as they're stable enough they might go up. It really depends, right? The stock market is not a monolith on itself, right? There are different sectors right now or not right now. For the last 10 years, 12 years since Obama flooded the market with trillions of dollars due to Obama administration, almost every sector has seen gains. The gold sector did not. The gold sector was in a bear market. The commodity sector was in a bear market for a number of years, really. You could have bought Kinross Gold, right? A Canadian mining company, at least Canadian anyway. Kinross, majority of mining companies in the world are stationed in Canada, the Canadian stock market and stuff. That's why I know about this and I'm geophysics. You could have bought Kinross Gold at $2.50, $2.70, right? Until like five years ago. Right now, Kinross and Canadian dollars anyways, like $11 US dollars is like nine and a half dollars, right? There are different things that are making moves, right? So it's a casino, okay? Hosting does not equal supporting is the idea. Lonely piggy, chicho. Tips for being better with saving money. I've saved up over these last few months from the COVID intensive work, but I've always looked for something to spend it on. A lonely piggy, stop that. And if you're gonna spend it on something, spend it, choose one genre, one or two places that you're willing to spend money on. Don't go crazy on every place, right? One way, guaranteed you save money, guaranteed. Stop drinking outside of your home. Don't go to pubs, clubs and stuff drinking. And don't go to restaurants eating, right? So if you stop drinking and eating in restaurants and bars, you will guaranteed save a ton of money, okay? In Canada especially. Montreal is cheaper to eat and drink out than West Coast of Canada. Here is crazy expensive. That's what I would recommend. Stop eating out. Take out one of your main sources of entertainment. Huckleberry. Thoughts on buying airline stocks while it's low. I wouldn't personally. How low? Airline stocks, they go through like Boeing. Last time I checked, Boeing was $160 now or something like that. It was sitting at like 300 something, collapsed all the way down to like 90 something, kicked up to like 180. Now it's sitting around 160 or something like this, I believe. Boeing, fair value for it should be around 30. Last time I looked into it, right? If that, okay. The only reason it's so high is because it's been given tons of money and it's got military contracts. Now if the wars kick up again, when they are up, like don't believe in the BS where the US hasn't started any new wars, they have, right? Sanctions are a form of warfare, right? Black ops are a form of warfare. So military has been doing phenomenally for the last 20 years. Is this going to continue? If so, maybe, right? I personally wouldn't, okay? If you don't mind, hey, hey says, do you know anything about your heritage? You sound East Asian, European and Canadian at the same time. You pretty much have it right there. Armenian, Iranian, Canadian. That pretty much covers it, hey, hey. I never seen, heard that in my life before. I'm not sure which one that is. I'm scrolling to see if there's anything directed towards me. Gang, Spiderman, Tesla will overtake them in the next 20 years, I'd say. Tesla is nice, hey, hey. Tesla, Catholic traditionalist, how were you doing? Good evening, folks. I hope you have all had a blessed Sunday. I just got back from picking up my children. They spent the weekend kayaking in Southwest Missouri, very nice. And that's a great place to invest your time, money, resources in nature, right? That keeps you healthy, gets you understanding your local community, your local region. Hopefully you build a relationship with the type of vegetation that grows in your area, okay? And once you invest in that, you will use it to a certain degree. You buy a kayak and if you're committed to it, you'll end up using that, right? Keeps you healthy, mentally, physically, spend time with the family, builds your community. Can't go wrong with that, right? Wall Street wouldn't like it. You know, they're not taking your money and flipping it, doing other things. Mark Metal, I hope they do some development into graphene, futuristic stuff right there. Lonely piggy, luckily I don't drink but eating out is one of my guilty pleasures with my best friend, Nottet, though. I'm interested in watches more and more lately. So maybe I could look into that. Yeah, watches are, I don't know how, what they're, how much they increase by, if they increase at all, if there's a growth in them. But I know the host of Crosstalk, what's his name? I forget his name. He collects watches, right? Collectibles are a good place to be if you know the collectible you're investing in, right? I'm scrolling down here, Catholic, this one's Chico, they had some amazing food too. They had 220 quart boilers, wow. Going full of corn, sausage, crab legs, and crawfish the children caught from the river. Awesome, oh my God. That sounds fantastic. I gotta go crabbing next year. We went camping on an island here and just you go, you go towards the water's edge and you look in and there were crabs like this big, like big and there was a lot of boats crabbing. So it's supposed to be, I didn't notice, it's supposed to be like an amazing spot to catch crab and people go camping there, they don't bring any food. They just go camping there. They put their traps out and they crab every day, right? I think they bring water and whatnot, but no protein, right? The stream is about finance. Please keep it on topic, indeed, indeed. BS20VX, Chico, hey Chico, it has been a while. I've always heard entrepreneurs saying saving only isn't going to do much, it's not. They say use this money to produce more money. Now I don't have much of experience here, but do you think you're speaking the truth? They are speaking the truth. So is it just to boost the economy for them to increase their opportunity? No, it's not, it's true. In our current economic system, in essence, keep this in mind, sort of a mantra, you sort of have to get money to be get money, right? Now you don't have to do this, by the way. You don't have to do this. If you're interested in growing your material wealth, fiat currency and investing and stuff like this, like into tangible goods, then yeah, you have to get money to work for you, right? And the reason is this, and it's not money, it's currency. Like for example, if you have $100 in your pocket, don't consider that money. Consider that a currency, a means of doing trade, because that $100 in your pocket is devaluing every second, okay? Not by much, but it's losing its value, right? So this $100 that you might have right now, 20 years from now, it won't buy the same amount that it will right now, okay? Just like 100 years right now did not buy as much as 100 years as 20 years ago, right? Now there's disclaimers there, right? Technology price decreases in general, unless you're Texas Instruments selling graphing calculators to school boards for a rip-off. Those prices have been going up, insane, right? But basically there's something called inflation and inflation is the devaluation of your fiat currency. So you do have to invest in something tangible or certain instruments, right? May it be cryptocurrencies, stock market or whatever, I wouldn't go into the stock market. I personally would not be recommending investing in cryptocurrencies as a safe place to be. Something tangible and that's just basically the name of the game right now, right? But there are times where cash is king, where all of a sudden the liquidity dries up and if you have cash, you can gobble things up at an amazing bargain price. And by the way, you should have a basket, safety net where you can function if you lose all your income coming in at least for six months to a year, preferably for two years, you won't be in trouble, okay? Mark Chichou, what materialistic item do you think is worth investing in? For me, Mark, you're asking me that collects comic books. I do comic books right now, right? Because I know comic books, but I don't recommend comic books for everyone. Collectibles for sure, certain collectibles for sure, right? Try to get a great deal if you can, right? Gold is a good hedge. Like if you had a lot of money, let's say you had a basket of money, right? And that was disposable money. You don't need this basket of money to pay for rent, buy food, send your kids to school, buy gas. It's not money that you have that you're using on a daily basis. That's different than this basket of money that you're gonna invest in, right? If you had a basket of money that you can invest in and don't need over an extended period of time, I would right now tell you the truth, Mark. I would probably have at least 10 to 15% in gold. I would probably have about 20% in cash, 20 to 40% in cash. And the other, let's say 50, 55% I would invest in like two or three different places maybe, right? So it really depends. And by the way, making sure you have time, freedom, that's a form of investment. So the cash is ensuring that you have you're financially independent if you get your income cut, right? So that 20, 30% in cash is an emergency cash fund. It's 100% liquid, right? And I wouldn't have it all in the bank. Spider-Man and Chicho, I have switched from pescatarian to meat eating lately. Oh, no way, you're eating meat now, Spider-Man. How come? King crab is so hard to get into the shells, but the meat is ginormous. Graham, how you doing? I believe in spending money on projects for learning. That's a great place to invest. As many of you all know, tools, materials in order to produce things, yeah. And in order to fix up your house, like if you live in a house, you better have some tools in your house so you can do fixed things, right? Really, I'm scrolling down gang, da da da, lonely piggy, watches. And I've quite a few collectibles from DC, Marvel and beyond, still in box, paid a pretty penny for a few of them. So I can display them in box. So I guess that could also be a buffer, for sure, lonely piggy. And by the way, when you're investing in something, right, such as Marvel DC, whatever it is, that is also acts as a layered investment because it's also entertainment for you. It also gives you pleasure, right? It's not just you take the money, you put it here and you lock it away and you don't see it and it's not part of your life, right? It becomes a part of your life, such as comic books for me or books or whatever it might be, right? Then that also reduces the entertainment money that you have to spend outside of home, right? So you also have to consider that as a return on investment as well. A lot of people say, oh, you know, oh, use a waste of money, you put it in a collectible and you lock it away. Well, no, you don't lock it away. You make it a part of the decor in your house. It is part of you, part of your living space, right? That's a return on investment. It brings you joy, right? Pleasure, joy, okay? Entertainment, those are forms of investment. That's your dividend coming back, right? So we have to go beyond this monetary return on investment that fund managers try to sell people, right? Oh, bring your money to us and we'll give you three and a half percent return, four percent return with an M.E.R. of one. They don't tell you that, right? So they're taking 1% off the top, right? So when it says 4% and their M.E.R. is 1%, you're not getting 4%, you're getting 3%, right? If you're lucky, right? And then there's fees and all this crap in there, right? So people have to get out of that mindset that the only place to invest in is some place that brings you fiat currency as a dividend, as a return on investment. That is not true. Maintaining a good health, that's your dividend. You invest in yourself. Educating yourself in the limit, in the long run, is a great investment. You become wiser, right? This has infuriated me. Darth, Darth Hockey. I always go Darth, Darth Hockey, Darth, Darth Hockey. This has inferred me, Chicho, how the wealthiest among us have benefited from all the collective misery of COVID and 2020. Here's a kicker, Hockey. It's not because of COVID that they benefited. It's because the government gave them trillions of dollars. Okay? And it's not just the super wealthy, right? Those people who had, were decentralized, right? Who made sure that their work, their livelihood, the wellbeing of their family was not linked in with the government, with Wall Street, could have done okay, right? Like for example, for me, I had a certain amount of my revenue being cut. However, new clients came in, right? So because I'm an educating, but I'm not educating in a centralized system. I made sure I was decentralized. So a lot of people that were decentralized to a certain degree, they fared better than those people who were working for a corporation or for the government and the government shuts down, right? So it really depends. We're going through term, chaotic terms right now. And during these times, there are amazing opportunities and there are growth spots, right? There are places that you're gonna see growth. The question is, are you positioned to take advantage of that growth, right? And I agree with you by the way. I don't, it's crazy that we allow our governments to give trillions of dollars to multi-billion trillion dollar corporations to buy back their own shares so they can get more dividends and get the stock price. It's insane, I agree with you. However, we shouldn't just look at Wall Street. That's one of the main things that I'm trying to really make sure it sinks into people because the establishment wants people to think that the only place to invest in is Wall Street, right? They say, oh, you have to put your money in retirement savings plan, social security, all this stuff, right? And where do they put your money? It's your money, right? They convince people to do this because they give you tax benefits if you put your money in a retirement savings plan. In Canada, I don't know, in the US it's called whatever IRS or whatever it's called, right? Every country has it. They say, oh yeah, if you put your money in the stock market, we'll reduce that from your income that you have that way you're in a lower tax bracket and sometimes the government matches it or matches a certain part of it. So they give you an incentive to invest in the establishment. Start looking outside of that. Mark metals, but they're the only ones that are allowed as approved calculators in schools, especially for tests. Mark metals, what I tell my students is, don't, especially, I have students from all walks of life, some are low income, some have been very low income, some are extremely well off, right? I tell all of them, if you can't afford to buy a calculator, that Texas Instrument rip off, don't do it, right? And if your teacher forces you to do it, take the hit of a lower grade or borrow their calculator, okay? And just use a normal calculator that has square roots and cube roots and sine and cosine and all that jazz, right? I can't justify paying that much for a technology not much for a technology which its price has gone up over time because they have a monopoly. It's, to me, it's insane. Catholic tradition of Chico, I had an opportunity to see the lumber, my father and one of my brothers milled. They are building two homes on property they just bought. All of the lumber for the houses will come from the property itself, land, equipment, et cetera, a sawmill and tools, all very good investment, in my opinion, incredible investment, Catholic traditionals. But this is something that is a long-term investment that they've had, right? It must be, okay? And it's a part of your family. From everything you share, Catholic traditionals, your whole community, your whole family has been programmed to take advantage to work with your surroundings, with nature and whatnot. Kudos to you guys. It's a great way to be. It's a great way to be. Dornoki, have you ever studied development psychology? I'm not sure what that encompasses. Emily, the money I had in an account grew 15% average every year for a while. Try and stick with good names and do your research when you invest, 100%. It's on you what you want to invest in, where you're gonna put your money in, right? Mark, would you ever use some of that basket of cash to buy a successful corporate chain, like a gym, restaurant, store? Right now, I'm trying to think of any corporate chains that we buy right now. If anything comes out regarding cannabis, possibly, but I would not invest in a gym, I would not invest in a restaurant, but not by long shot, a store depending on the store. So Mark, possibly, but right now, I would hold off. Retail space is about to go on sale, really. I think a retail real estate is in deep trouble from everything that I've seen anyway, from the data that I've seen. So I would hold off until you can find an amazing deal. Hemp is the future for sustainable housing with better mark says. Hemp is the future for sustainable housing with better insulation for indoor environments, and you can grow more fiber in one year than you could in 20 years off one acre. Hemp is, it should have never gone out of our economic system, right? I would, Rachel says I would invest in Chichobugs if I had the chance. Rigid, who knows, maybe at some point, right? Invest in Nvidia. Nvidia is pretty high up there in terms of money. Nvidia, if I remember my data correctly, in the last 10 years, it's gone from like $6, $7 to $200, something dollars, that's a huge return. Catholic traditionists, invest in, yeah, sorry, where are we? Yeah, Catholic traditionists, Chicho. That is correct. And further, we tend to invest with a multi-generational mindset. Many of the things we are engaged in, example, planting orchards, developing healthy water systems, et cetera, are with our children and grandchildren, my excellent Catholic traditionists, and that is the way it should be. That is the way our, the whole world should function in. Wall Street is on the other spectrum. Wall Street looks for quick returns, okay? Bernie C.T. Hey, Chicho, just popping in to say hello and hope everyone is doing well. Hope your Sunday, Sunday nights are a nice, relaxing end to the weekend. Indeed, Bernie. And thank you very much for the well wishes. I hope yours, your Sunday and your week goes well. Shh. Hey, hey, their market is going to go kaboom in the coming months. Whoever has a lot of Nvidia stock going to be rich as heck lately, maybe invest in AMD bicycles with the new 30s card coming in. I heard about that actually, hey, hey. I heard they're putting on a new card that's supposed to be amazing. So yeah, possibly, possibly. Maybe put some cash aside and don't buy in time, you know, buying in increments, especially in bubble markets. Intrepid, how are you doing? What is the most you've ever made an investment, Chicho? When I played the markets, you could make a lot. You could make a lot in a day. Okay. You could make a lot in a day. Not hundreds, not thousands, but tens of thousands, right? But it's, you give up a little bit. The cost is high, right? Not in terms of money, in terms of who you are, what you have to do, right? Cheryl, Nvidia ordinary shares have increased almost $200 per share just in the past one and a half years. Crazy growth, yeah. So it's one and a half years. In the last five years? Yeah, I remember the chart. It's just basically, if you look at a one year, it did the boo and it's coming back up again. And I can't remember if it was a 10 year chart I was looking or a five year chart. It was like this and it could continue. Bitcoin miners have made video card processors in the man. Yeah, Montreal player. And that's where Nvidia really got the huge spike from, right? Mark metals, one major part of it, as well as gaming, of course. Apparently the 3080 isn't that much of an upgrade. Haven't heard much from overclocking. Cool. Yeah, I've heard some stuff too, but for me, as you know, I'm not into the stock market right now. Personally, I'm not interested. Homemade Blackberry Jam and a little cracker. Legendary Rob Boss, how are you doing? Chicho, did you know that a hotdog is technically a taco? A hotdog is technically a taco? I have no idea. What does that mean anyway? Open it up, put it in there. That's what a taco is, definition of taco. The eddy G mark metals, no. The new gen looks very promising, doesn't it? Competition makes us all winners. Indeed, competition makes us all winners. By the way, gang, thank you for the follows. Thank you for the subs. Apologies if I'm missing them. I try to follow the chat as best as I can and stay up with it. And sometimes I go on rants, right? Chicho, a taco is defined as a food that has a structural starch, structural starch on the sides and bottom of the food. Ah, so it's basically like this. So it's open sandwich on one side. So a falafel would be technically a taco as well as long as they close the bottom, right? And a Sharama sandwich would be, ah, okay. Everybody's got tacos. Everywhere in the world we eat tacos. So it's a calzone, a taco is a taco, if you open it a bit. Yeah, so it's a calzone. Calzone is the ones that pocket, it's like pocket pizzas, isn't it? Calzones, those are good. I haven't had one of those for a long time. Calzones, delicious, very good. Man, now I'm craving calzones. My mouth is watering at the thought of a structural starch, much like it says. Well, calzones aren't typically open though. You could open them. Calzones are closed all around though. Cheryl, no Sharma, talk unless you're going to send me one, I know, I'm craving. I used to eat a lot of Sharma, so good. I'm getting the gluten sweats, Mark Meadows says. Lonely Piggy, how long before the next big crash in the economy? Chicho, we're seeing one right now. The crash right now is unbelievable. Lonely Piggy, it's huge. I'm guessing without things removing, sooner or later, like seriously, forget the stock market. Stock market is an illusion, it's a joke. Like everybody knows the stock market is a joke, but people keep on putting money into it because the joke may continue, right? Like central governments, central banks are buying stocks now, right? So it's just like, oh, let's keep the party going for the super rich and the 5% that own 80% of the stocks in the world or 90% of the stocks in the world. It's just crazy. What we need to do is divest from that system, make sure your future is not tied up with the oligarchs because the oligarchs, there might be some nice oligarchs out there, but the system that they've established is predatory, the way they make more is by destroying any competition. So whatever you do, if you wanna be in the stock market, be in the stock market, really, but don't put all your eggs in the stock market basket. Like look, I had a discussion with someone about a month ago, month and a half ago and we're talking about investing and stuff. I said, yeah, comic books, right? And they're like, oh, comic books are not in place. You should invest your money. I go, look, dude, collectibles are a legitimate place to invest your money. Art, Canadian art has increased on average 25% per year. Over the last 20 years, 30 years. That's 25% every two. Oh, it's not a good, it's not, it's not liquid. It's not this, it's not this, it's not, yeah, sure. And then I sort of went, look, man, I'm trying to get my point across. And I sort of said, look, man, because of this COVID thing when the pandemic hit, the stock market, right, the Dow Jones dropped and the S&P dropped 30% in a week. During that same period that the stock market dropped 30%, the prices of comics dropped 10%. Now, which one is a better investment, right? Who gives a rat's ass if the market, stock market is more liquid? If you invest your money, build your life around the following mindset, make sure you have at least, people say six months. I say at least a year to two years. If you have at least two years ability to, and you would have to reduce your spending big time, right? If you could live without major income coming in for two years and then take whatever extra you make and invest it in wherever you want, if you don't need that liquidity that the stock market provides, then there are way better places to invest in, right? A lot of people invest in the stock market because it's liquid. They could call their broker if they're silly enough to have a broker, right? Or go online and press buttons and sell everything. But what happens when everybody's selling? If you put $100,000 into the market or the value of the thing is $500,000 now, you put $100,000 I'll say 10 years ago, the value of the thing is $500,000 and everybody decides to sell at the same time and you pull out $150,000. Okay, you made 50% return in 10 years, right? That's the way you have to think about it, right? It's very weird. There are people out there who don't think, who think the only place that you should invest in is either land or the stock market. They don't consider food security investment. They don't consider their health investment. They don't consider their education investment. They don't consider the stability of their community investment. They don't consider all these things to be investments that pay off in the long run way more than what? Disney giving you dividends of 1.25% or something like this? What kind of a, you can't even compare the two, right? Food is a good investment now that God says and I 100% agree. Legendary Bob Ross, also pizza, sushi and pumpkin pie are all toast because they all have a structural start only on the bottom. Good food for sure, Elder God. Cheryl says to Elder God, good food, good food for sure. Indeed, bad food could be a bad place to invest your money. Yo, Chicho, two day streak, two day streak, Bunsen, FJ Bunsen, welcome, welcome back. Greater fool theory in action. Cheryl, I typically take a contrarian position but have been too twitchy to act on anything in a long time. Cheryl, might've been good. And by the way, you can take a little bit and play the markets. Just realize that you're gambling and when you're gambling, you better not be gambling money that you need to live on, right? I have more toilet paper, three Chicho streams in four days, love it, awesome. Bunsen, hey, Chicho. What are your thoughts on Elon Musk and his neuro link development? I would not get a chip that Elon Musk starts selling, right? And as far as Musk is concerned, I don't really care for him too much. There was a love hate thing. Well, there was a lot of love people had for him. Now people are starting to realize, wait a second, for me, I don't care about the oligarchs really. But the neuro link development, transhumanism is a direction that we are going, right? The problem with transhumanism, I don't disagree with transhumanism per se. I disagree with centralization of power. And if we enter a world where transhumanism is an option or a dictate from central power on all of us, then we have serious problems, okay? Serious problems. Catholic traditionists, I invest in some Taco Bell food the other day. The return was not good. You end up using a lot of toilet paper too, so you're losing on every front. I have more toilet paper right after Catholic traditionists post that comment. Very, you should take a screenshot of this. Chicho, my wife, my wife and I watched the social dilemma on Netflix last night. I told her the echoes of Chicho shouting, you're an idiot for watching recommended videos on YouTube. Is that something Netflix recommended to you guys? I have no idea what that thing is, the social dilemma. I hope she took it in good light. He were. Funny, funny. Mark metals to Catholic traditionists, but you made a solid deposit, right? I got a feeling it wasn't very solid if you had Taco Bell. Funny, funny. I have my toilet paper. Yes, funny. The nuclear nugget can be saved and used to power up mobile phone. Elder God says, hilarious. Salute to the humor gang. Salute to the humor. Nassim Nikolastalib? Fan of Nassim Nikolastalib? Indeed, indeed. If that's what you mean. If you're asking me if I'm a fan of Talib Coel, indeed, indeed. That's hip hop. I don't think I'm pronouncing it well, but Talib Coel and Mostaf, they put out an album, two albums which were absolutely amazing. Black on both sides was one of them. The other one was, they have black in it as well. I forgot what the name was it. But Nassim Nikolastalib, indeed. Of course, Nassim Nikolastalib. Yeah. Another Montreal player. I've read his book, The Skin in the Game. I liked it. Good read. Good read, indeed. Highly recommend. Become anti-fragile people. Do not depend on centralized power to save your ass and provide you safety, security, comfort, education, housing, right? They don't have your best interest in mind. Cheers. Good to find you. Montreal player, good to have you. Are you from Montreal? Are you from Montreal? Do you listen to music? For sure. Bonson. What do you like listening to? Oh man. I listen to, most of music, I listen to is hip-hop, blues, jazz, metal, and electronic. So I don't listen to rock very much. I wouldn't, you know, for nostalgia's sake, sometimes I do, but I don't do nostalgia very much. I do, I like novelty. I do, I do appreciate experiences. So, because with experiences, I learn more about the world and it gives me more investment opportunities. So that's one thing, but, and by the way, we will do a music stream. I have a meeting to do this to let you guys know what, go through my MP3 player and I use just a little MP3 player for gigs and I rotate that, but at the beginning of summer, I set up my MP3 player and I've been meaning to do a live stream just to show you, usually I would do a video but my video editing computer is on having hiccups. So I've been meaning to do a live stream where I'm showing you guys the music that I listened to this summer. And it's beautiful. The John Coltrane, the Nolnius Monk, Nina Simone, Nujabas, a lot of stuff. I want to invest in non-food nutritional sources. I am thinking diet foods and supplements. Why not? Cheryl, manufacturing. Manufacturing what? In manufacturing possibly. Cheryl, there's gonna be right now, we're into a trade war, economic warfare, cyber warfare with China. The West is anyway, right? So there's a lot of industry that was established in China. Smith, the legend, the man, how are you doing? There was a lot of industry, Western industry that was established in China and because of the laws being passed, they need to get out of China. Now they tried going to Thailand and some other countries but they realized they couldn't produce on the same capacity as they could in China because China, slave labor, horrendous working conditions and the work ethic is different, right? So they're having certain problems transitioning away from China. So there could be certain investment opportunities in manufacturing. Personally, I would consider localized manufacturing a great place to invest in as long as it's got a nice foothold in the community. Get into white-label manufacturing. Mark Meadows, I don't know what white-label manufacturing is. Graham, I would invest in learning how to manufacture your own things. Why not? Learn machining and carpentry, yeah. Carpentry, construction might have a hiccup, Graham. So renovations, yes. But as long as we'll see where it goes, really, the construction industry might have hiccups, maybe. Really, the things are so much in flux right now. It's very hard. That's one reason it's a trader's market. That's one reason you should have a little basket of money on the side to take opportunities, buy things up that you can, right? What industries do you think will become automated away? Truck drivers are at threat to autonomous drivers in the next decade. I don't think it's gonna be next decade, Bonson, next decade. What will be the solution to the unemployment? The solution to the unemployment? Man, I don't think there's a solution to the unemployment right now. Solution to the unemployment, some people say is UBI, but UBI is leads to complete centralization of everything with cash gone and everything digital and the government can dictate what you can buy, what you can, like for example, just assume UBI kicks in, right? And cash is eliminated. In New York, right, when was this? In New York, it was a coma, I forget their names, right? In New York, they passed a law that sugary drinks could not be sold or they were tax higher so the prices went up, right? So the government, centralized government came out and said sugary drinks are really bad for your health. It's putting a strain on our current healthcare system if you can call the healthcare system. So we're gonna tax it more, right? Now just imagine if cash is eliminated and the solution to the unemployment, the solution to the unemployment problem kicking in is gonna be universal basic income and everything's digital. And then slowly what's gonna happen is centralized power is gonna put little footnotes in the bottom saying, okay, here's your digital currency but you can't buy this, you can't buy this, you can't buy this, you can't buy this. So when you go to a store to buy this, all of a sudden it's easily done, all of a sudden you can't buy this because there's a lock on it, right? That's how it's controlled. And then they could also say, let's say they bring another lock down in, right? They wanna control movement within a country, right? So you live in a certain location, right? All your money is digitized. Now it doesn't have to be UBI that's digitized. Let's assume you live in a town or a city or rural area somewhere and all your money is digitized. The centralized government, right? All of a sudden decides for whatever reason that it needs to be able to prevent people from moving around for whatever reason, right? All they can do, and they have done this with credit cards and taking money out of banks. I wrote an article about this on my blog when I was writing about economics and stuff like this. They did this in 2007 or so, right? All they have to do is say, okay, your digital currency is available to you only within 20 kilometers of your home residence, right? So all of a sudden, I don't give a rat's ass if you have $10 million in the bank or $1,000 in the bank. You can't take that money out or you can't take it out anyway, it's all digital. You can't use that currency beyond a 20 kilometer radius from your home. Oh snap, damn, what prison? Okay, be careful, be careful. Okay, really be careful, gang. Graham, I believe all industries can be automated. Educators are near the chopping block, says I, Graham. That's Graham saying, Graham Cheecho, right. Learn carpentry so that you can make your own things and don't have to rely on anyone else for anything. Agree, Graham. And I wouldn't say for anything, for building things, you don't have to rely on them, right? We need each other for many things, okay? But one thing, Graham, I don't think good educators are gonna be automated out. It's not gonna happen. I haven't seen it. If anything, I'm seeing demand for my work increasing in a big way, in a big way. Because when automation rolls in, it's done from a centralized power through our centralized education system. And that automation of education is not gonna be education. It's gonna be indoctrination, a couple of orders of magnitude more horrendous than what it is now, right? And parents are not gonna, for the most part, I don't know, for the most part, some parents won't be able to provide alternate education for their children. Hopefully they'll decide to reduce their expenses, reduce the amount of time they're working outside, right? And spend time with their kids to educate themselves. But I don't think educators are gonna be automated out. And truck drivers is not gonna happen within 10 years. Mark Meadows, just remember, during the gold rush, it wasn't the miners that made money. It was the guys selling the picks and axes, indeed, right? And I'll give you an example, Mark. I did geophysics in Canada for a long time, right? For 10 years, for 10 years in 1980s, I did geophysics. I did both, I did a lot of environmental, my focus was environmental, but I did work some geotechnical and engineering and stuff like this, right? I would fly to certain mining camps where we had to do geophysics and whatnot. Some of the people living in these little towns, little far off the towns, like one place we went to was Nain. Nain in North, in Labrador, okay? And it was, I forget the bay we're in, and I forgot the mine we're in. It was the largest nickel mine in the world, okay? The people living in that little town all of a sudden became millionaires because they had the means to bring in the piping and on a more complex level, the axe and picks and stuff like this, to the company and the companies, the multi-billion dollar companies wanted to keep the general population happy so they were willing to play inflated prices for things, right? 100%, Mark Maddell's great point. Legendary Rob Boss, I think the empirical evidence of the recent QE for the people, the Fed put in place, shows the UBI is not going to work. It's not going to work. But UBC may have a chance. UBC, Universal Basic, what does the C stand for? Cash, I don't know what C is. Going for, this is being taxed to, you can't buy this at all, is a pretty big jump. Rickland, are you referring to me saying the kilometer thing? In the mid-2000s, that is exactly what certain banks and certain credit card companies did. They limited how far away from their home people could purchase money, access their funds, right? It was crazy. It was crazy. Mark Maddell's white label manufacturing is basically having the manufacturing and processing equipment to make whatever product your clients are buying into an end product so that the buyer can then slap them their own labels on it. Hence, white label, oh, that's what it is. So generic, creating generic products where you can just give it or sell it to other companies to put their own labels on it. Oh, that's cool. White label manufacturing. I didn't know it was called that. Yes, use tax variables to control your diet. Graham, Mark Maddell's, yes, I have seen this. Cheap Chinese lathes are all identical but have different names on them, huh? Graham. Chicho, do you think there's a market for doing what you do, but for practical education like machining and making things? Machining is a problem because you need the equipment. You could, I don't know, it takes investment, like Graham, like for machining anyway, right? Retail industry is about to, as far as I see it, right? Retail industries, retail real estate is about to take a tumble, huge relative to where it's at. It was a bubble, it was insane, right? So if you're able to get a location really cheap and if you have the equipment to put it in there and it really depends on the community, right? If you're in a community where people understand what it means to have anti-fragile community, sustainable community where people have an interest in building their own products and you could market the space you create and provide the machinery for people to build what it is they wanna build and hold classes, let's say that pays the rent and you're basic and common. You have to have tier system, I guess, Graham, right? So I'm just thinking a lot, by the way, don't take this as absolute or take it with a grain of salt, right? So just imagine if I was seriously thinking about this, my first idea would be, okay, find a really cheap commercial real estate, make sure the zoning laws are there you can hold classes as well as have people come in, make sure you can get the insurance you need for people outside of classes as well as classes but outside of classes to come in there to use the machinery. Don't do it under the table because if anything happens, you're bankrupt, right? You need those safety nets in there. Let's assume you can get all this, right? And you set up different hardware, right? Machines in place for people to make their own things. Now, one thing you would have to do is figure out what it is that people want to make. You would have to get the blessing of the local community, the local government. So there's a lot of loopholes you wanna go through but what you would need to do for the money aspect of it, make sure the classes you hold are able to cover the rent and your taxes and maintenance on the machinery and pay your rent, right? And bare minimum. So that's your bare minimum you're functioning on. Your gravy would be renting out the space for people that wanna make products, right? And that you can layer multiple things on top of that, right? So it wouldn't just be renting out space for people to make products. You could also have a gift shop available where people can sell the product, right? Or you could make higher, what do you call it? Contract out work to your students, right? So pay the minimum wage, bring them in, make something and sell that product pre-ordered from a farm or whatever it is. So that you could do so much grab, right? But there's loopholes you have to go through. There's bureaucracy you have to go through. And it would be costly and it would be fragile at first but if you're able to establish yourself, get a foothold in a community, it will be one of the most anti-fragile establishments there is. It would be basically a decentralized education center that is manufacturing at the same time on a local level. It would make your community so anti-fragile, man. People will love you as long as you can market it properly. Great idea, let's do it. I am for local buying but not in an enforced way. Yeah, I agreed, elder God. Centralized power cannot enforce either through cash or credit control. Cheryl to Graham. You directed the question to Chishol but given that I've been trying to find comprehensive woodworking courses near me for over 10 years with no luck, I would say yes. There's a huge opportunity for manufacturing education outside of secondary ed. I'm with Cheryl. Just talking this through, it would be beautiful, man. Right? Your voice is so soothing, and he says. Salute. I have more toilet paper. Chishol, living in Perth, Western Australia, we are currently going through a micro boom. The state has locked the borders. None is allowed in. This has stimulated the local market and the mining companies have started to hire locals. It's awesome. Unfortunately, uneducated are spoon fed a boat full of cash and without the education to manage this sudden influx, they soon squatter it on trash. A fool and his money are soon parted. I worry this micro boom will pop and the damage will be huge. Right there, I have more toilet paper, right there is an opportunity for someone within the community to start taking advantage of all the money coming in to make the community antifragile. And what you said, check this out, what you said reminded me of a historical event that happened, right? I looked into this so long, like 20 plus years ago, right? When the British Empire controlled China and Hong Kong, right? Asia, okay? They set up a lot of factories there. It was becoming extremely wealthy, right? And the locals were becoming extremely wealthy, right? This is what the British Empire did. The British Empire, beside the factories where they were paying the workers, right? Set up casinos, right? So the British Empire controlled the casinos. The Chinese workers would go in the factories, they would make their money and then they would go blow it in the casino, right? Bakara was, and I know about this because I looked into gambling. I made my living off gambling for a period of time. I did phenomenal, okay? But it's not a lifestyle I wanted, right? But Bakara is a game in a casino that is basically flipping a coin, okay? You play bank or a player. Bakara was created, we call it correctly, by the British Empire, okay? Because the people that were working in these factories were mostly illiterate and they didn't know games of chance well. So the British Empire created a game that that's why James Bond movies always have Bakara. They created a game that was so simple to play that people that were uneducated could play. So these people would come in and play Bakara, basically flipping a coin. And it was a guaranteed win for the casino. If they played player, they got even odds payout. If they played banker, if they won, the casino would take 5%. So both ways, they were getting 2.5% on every, on, in the limit, 2.5% on every bet. Holy Kamolis, what a game, right? Incredible. So yes, industry centralized power will go into a community flooded full of money and at the same time, flooded full of drugs, flooded full of prostitution and build casinos. This is the business model of centralized power and it has been so for a number of centuries, okay? So it's the responsibility of the community to make sure that the population is wise enough not to fall for this trap. And it's difficult and it destroys communities. Mark Meadows, I took a woodworking course back in January and asked a teacher about places to do woodworking. A lot of the equipment is very expensive, but unfortunately, there's nowhere around except one place. You can take a slab of wood to shape down, but you have to go there every time you want a specific cut. It's not only expensive but annoying making so many trips. Yeah, Mark, and that's the same way here. And I think it's because of insurance. Like for example, this bookshelf here that you see behind me, I built this, right? So I looked at it, measured out the stuff, and initially I put one of the things down just to make sure it was getting good. But all of this wood that I got, I got from a local sort of a, it's not a lumber, it is lumber, they sell lumber, but they sell, it's like a hardware store, right? But they have a lumber there as well, very minimal. It's not for people building homes, it's for people doing stuff like this, right? Renovations in the house. And all of this with my measurements, when I bought the wood, it came in, you know, large pieces and I had my measurements and when I bought it, I told them to do all the cuts, right? I said, I need this cut into this, this, this, I need this, I need a little notch here, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And if you're building anything, it's a good idea. The odds are you're gonna make mistakes, right? It's a good idea to have some kind of power tool at home to correct your mistakes. I had my fingers crossed, I did my measurements right. For me, I was lucky. Everything turned out well and I put it together, okay? So Mark, yeah, but I think it's mainly because of insurance. A lot of people, people injure themselves on power tools in a big way. Graham, Chico, so you are really talking about community resource center kind of thing. Yeah, Graham, it has to be, it has to have the full support of the community, okay? That would be my way of going into it. Because the time, the resources required to put something like this together, it would be a disaster for anyone to do this and then hit a wall because one of your T's was not crossed and one of your I's was not dotted. The bureaucracy could end you. You have to have the full support of the community because if you have the full support of the community, if you hit any snags, you have the community backing you up, right? I would not invest that much resources by rolling the dice in this. It could end you, right? Cheryl, to Graham, it's been extremely frustrating and thus without the added joy of asking as a woman, but that's a topic for a different stream. Bidget. Cheryl, too bad you're not in England. We love wood, same with Canada. We love wood, especially in Nottingham, Graham says, or Elder God says, mark metals. There's a huge gap in resources available to the general populace for things like metal working, woodworking, et cetera. There's definitely a market to have a common goal workshop for those types of fobby's careers. Yeah, I agree. The insurance is huge. The insurance needs to be really looked into. Just not the ancients. Leave them alone, please. Yeah, the old growth force for sure. Legendary Rob Boss, Cheryl speaking of antifragile. Have you read antifragile? Things that gain from disorder by Nassim Nikolasov is very good. No, I haven't read antifragile, but the skin in the game covers a much of the topic of antifragile. And being antifragile is a concept that's been around for a long time. And it's something that I've incorporated into my life before encountering Nassim Nikolas Talib. The first time I really heard about the concept of antifragile was through Bruce Lee, where Bruce Lee was quoting someone else saying, be like water, my friend, right? And that's the same concept as being antifragile. Go with the flow. Make sure you're not a stick, a brick wall, or a tree where typhoon comes and just destroys you. Bend like the blades of grass, right? Or as Bruce Lee would say, be like water, my friend. Or as Nassim Nikolas Talib would say, build an antifragile life, right? I left all the paper up English. So what you're saying it's in my blood to exploit the weak? No, I don't think it is. It's in the blood of empire, right? Empires exploit others, right? Empires exploit the weak or destroy their obstacles, right? You're from Somta, oh, how do you pronounce your name? Somta. That has funny consequences. Yeah, agreed on the insurance issue. Yeah, Graham's idea of the insurance is a tricky one. Very tricky, because you can get insurance, right? But then the insurance company might change the policy on you when you go to renew. So what you need to do is if this goes ahead, one of the first things you would have to do is get your insurance on a long-term basis, right? So there's a lot of capital to be put on the forefront, right? Emily, yeah, I can imagine insurance would cause complications because lots of people could get hurt, indeed, indeed. And that's one of the main problems with the Western world, right? You wouldn't have this problem in other parts of the world. Insurance would not be a big issue because you couldn't really sue anyone if you hurt yourself. You hurt yourself, take responsibility for your own actions, right? To a certain degree, right? There has got to be some policy in there, safety glasses and safety gear and gloves and you need training and stuff like this. But we've become a nanny state, so that's a major problem, right? Nanny states are monopolistic in general. My blackberry jam, very good. This is bottom of the pot, so it was a thicker. I made how many pounds? I took 10 and a half pounds of blackberries, used about four pounds of sugar to make a blackberry jam. When it came out to about six liters, five or six liters of jam, which is really good. And I wanted to do another batch, but it's too smoky to go out blackberry picking. And by the way, legendary Rob Boss, that's a low ratio. A lot of jams that you buy in stores and stuff, it's 50-50, right? So if you use 10 pounds of blackberries, you would use 10 pounds of sugar. I used two to one ratio at most, right? I wanted this jam to be on the thicker side, so I didn't want it to be syrupy. The strawberry jam I made, it was a one to three ratio, one to four ratio, right? So four pounds of strawberries for one pound of sugar. So it was different, all right? Good seeing everyone, Mark says. And take care all. I got to get off, get off for the evening. Sweet dreams, Mark. And thank you for popping in the discussion. And we'll see you on the next stream. Elder God, you can fill into any vessel you're adaptable in any situation. Never commit yourself to one ideology. Be like water, be like water. Cheryl says, good night to Mark, Catholic traditionists. I brought home a bunch of goodies from my father's root cellar, putting a herding on a jar of pickles. Oh, pickled orca, oh, okra. Oh, pickled orca, okra. As we speak, nice. Okra is like little eggplants. I think that's okra, right? We make okra stew, which is absolutely amazing. And we eat it with rice. It's a Persian dish. I've never had pickle okra. This sounds delicious. By the way, Catholic traditionists, you posted a picture of making some roasted root vegetables on our Discord page. It totally motivated me. I made a couple of platters of roasted vegetables today. Eight some of it. We're going to eat it for like three days or so. It's root vegetable season gang. Elder God to Cheryl. My father made my bed as a teen from local wood, nice. And as an amateur, nice. BC have some of the best blackberries. My auntie makes an amazing job. Must be the Meeple Ridge Air, maybe. I'm on the island, but we got some. We found a place that's amazing blackberry. Really, I had planned on going yesterday. I didn't go to Smoky. I would plan on going today. I didn't go to Smoky. But there were some amazing blackberries there. We were there like four days ago, five days ago. This has been a great stream. Cheryl's show says, nice. Oh, wow, we're already hour and a half in. Time flies, gang. Legendary Rob Boss, Chichou. Do you have any tips for making pickled cucumbers versus fermenting them? I want to pickle cucumbers, but without heating them. Legendary Rob Boss, my partner. We made pickles this season. I made pickles using my mom's recipe. It's pretty simple. Water, vinegar, salt, and I just filled up the jars. This is as simple as that. No heat, right? But it's not fermenting, right? My partner made jarred pickles by heating them up as well as she made the fermented style, right? We've already gone through one gigantic ball of the fermented style. I didn't take pics of that. I didn't share that stuff. I didn't share the fermented. The fermented, you have to keep in the fridge after the once it's nicely fermented, right? You can't keep it outside because it's not sealed, right? So you need the fridge space, but I didn't make it. My partner made it. The way I made my pickles was so easy. Just heat up the water and did I even heat up the water? Man, yeah, you boil the water. My mom told me how to do it. I wrote it down. I boiled water, added the vinegar, salt, and just lined up the pickles and the cabbage and beans and just poured of stuff. And I forgot how I made it. It's my first time making it. I made it a little bit too salty. A legendary Rob Boss. Next time my partner makes, maybe we do a cooking live stream and we show. I'll run it, Pastor. Persian cucumbers make great pickles indeed. Persian cucumbers make amazing pickles. What percentage of salt, water, brine do you use 3%? No, mine was higher. I forget. I wrote it down. I have it marked down on stickies on my desk. I haven't transferred it over yet. I forget what it was. Legendary Rob Boss. I know, but I don't want to heat it unless I'm going to use the water. I boil it in as the brine becomes, because water soluble nutrients will leach out of the water. Yeah. And my partner also made fermented sauerkraut. So good, so good. Very good, very lucky. Chicho, yes, please. Okay. I'll talk to her. I'll talk to her. She wants to do another round. We're all, we're at the end of the season. The farm we go to still has pickles. They don't have the dill sticks. The big dill, what do you call them? The branches, but they still have pickling cucumbers. I don't know why they still have them. So she mentioned it, but she's really busy in the next couple of weeks. I'm not sure if we're gonna get a chance to do this year, but next year I'll work on her. Try to convince her to do. Legendary Rob Boss, Chicho, could you post your pickle cucumber recipe on Discord? I'd love to see them. Legendary Rob Boss, if you remind me on Discord, I'll look it up and post it. Okay, I hope it's there. It should be there. If not, I'll ask my mom again. Yes, I make sauerkraut too. I've got that down to a T. Do you, nice. It takes a lot of work. You should put it in a big, it's not a crock pot, but it's a big container thing and layered the stuff and pound it and put cloth over it, let it sit for like a month. Okay, we'll do awesome. Thanks. Fun stream gang. Nice economic investing, personal finance. Personal finance, really. But personal finance is investing. What do you want to invest in, right? This jam, amazing with feta cheese. Toast up some bread, feta cheese, put blackberry jam on top. Man, oh man. Legendary Rob Boss, making sauerkraut is not that much work once you know the process. I let my ferment for two months and it is amazing. Yeah, she actually let it ferment for a month, month and a week or so. And then she started jarring some of it and then the bottom hadn't fermented. So about a third of it is still fermenting. So it's been two months now. But you need to put it in the fridge, right? Legendary Rob Boss. So you have to, she made a lot. So we have big sauerkraut jars in our fridge right now and there's more coming. We better start eating it. Elder God, I believe personal finances, spirituals while indeed 100%, 100%. Rakil, chicho. I know you said you only need to leave strawberry liqueur for three weeks and then you can drink it. But is there any benefit to leaving it longer? The flavor gets stronger. I don't take the strawberries out. I leave it. Like three weeks I start drinking it. And then some two weeks I start drinking it. But once I start drinking it, I don't remove the strawberries. I start eating the strawberries. And then when the liqueur, the liquid goes down, I fill it up again. If the sweetness was really high, I don't add any sugar. If I want the sweetness to kick up again, I add a little bit more sugar. So once the liquid goes down, the alcohol goes down, there's lots of strawberries up top, I pour vodka, fill it up to the top again, give it a shake and let it sit again for two to three weeks. Something, it's longer a little bit, the second go around and start drinking again, it goes down again, do it again, do it again and eat the strawberries. So and how long will it last in the long run? I haven't had any fruit liqueurs go bad ever. And I had fruit liqueurs that are like three, four decades old. I know it's not finance related, but I appreciate your wisdom. To me it is finance related. This is amazing drinks that we can have at home that cost us very little, right? That if you wanted to have this in a restaurant or a bar, it would be insanely expensive, right? This is personal finance to me. This is investing to me and you can eat. Here's pineapple. You can eat the pineapples, right? This is going to be strong. So, the vodka tastes so strong on the pineapples. Very nice, very nice. Legendary Rob Boss. Yes, when you are ready to harvest and it is at the texture you want, then you transfer it to the fridge. Okay, so you make not like we made a huge batch. A little bit too big. We gotta eat it fast. Catholic tradition at this talk is making me hungry. I am going to have to run downstairs and grab a jar of jalapeno jelly and some toast to tie all this in with investing. Consider investing in the knowledge and materials to do food preservation, canning, jam, jelly, preserves, meat curing, et cetera. A great move towards food security. I'm 100% with Catholic traditionist. I haven't done any meat curing yet, but I wanna learn. I wanna learn the old school technique where they would cure the meat, put it in the jar, pack it, and then they put a layer of fat that seals it, no oxygen, and that would stay all winter. And supposedly it was supposed to be so amazing flavor. I gotta learn how to do that. And it is investment. It saves you money. Like really, it saves you money. Like a jar of jam, let's say it costs me time, sugar, energy, right? The time is hobby, it's exercise. Outdoors picking the blackberries. Indoors doing cooking in the kitchen. I'm okay with it. It's exercise. There's different types of movements that are on the screen behind the computer. The cost of money is whatever, right? So a jar of blackberry organic, I use organic cane sugar, a jar of organic blackberry jam probably costs me, I don't know, $3, $4, $3, right? $2 in terms of materials, I don't know, right? If you bought that in a store, that's like $15, right? Or more, I don't know. I don't buy jam in the stores, right? Or I haven't for a very long time. You save money, right? Recky, awesome. Thanks for answering. My pleasure. What did I answer? Oh yeah, the liqueur, my pleasure. I have seen a millionaire who looks so sad and a homeless man who was so happy. Elder God, 100%, right? Money does not make you happy. It makes certain things in life easier to acquire, right? But the correlation between wealth and happiness is not there, right? Money is as useful as it needs to be, yeah. Thriller 13, I've been making my own bitters. It's fun to experiment and make it your own. Just need grain alcohol and ingredients, yeah. Oh yeah, by the way, gang, what can you make with hops? I'm about to harvest hops tomorrow. I've never harvested hops. I'm just gonna cut the flowers. I gotta look online. Amazing facial expression when eating that pineapple is really strong. I swear, the fruits, and all the fruits are like this. The fruits just suck in the alcohol. I don't know why, it tastes so strong. Legendary Rob Boss, yeah, I'm only one person and because I portion control very well, I go through about one head of cabbage of sauerkraut in a month. So basically only go through 12 cabbages a year for a regular supply of sauerkraut. Awesome, that's good. Thriller, you don't have to spend a lot at the grocery store. 50 last me weeks, yeah. You could make it last a long time. Oats is amazing, right? I eat, last few mornings, I cook up some oats, cut up, we have fresh fruit right now, season of fruit, cut up fruit, oats and fruit. Keeps me going all day. Like really, good healthy food. And local berries, hops jelly, hops jelly. Cheryl, hops jelly? No way. Really? I can make jelly from hops? Like the same way I make blackberry jam? Okay, I gotta get an answer for this. If so, hell yeah. I'll harvest the hops and make jelly. Emily, cat to cat teacher, yes. My parents had bees and their great honey is yummy and the bees are so sweet. Oh yes, fresh honey. And bees are awesome, really. They're not wasps. Wasps have their purpose, they eat a lot of pests and stuff like this in your yard. But bees are awesome. Legendary Rob Boss, I'm currently learning how to make yogurt from raw milk. Yeah, I've made yogurt before. I will start my first batch this week. We'll see how it goes. Yeah, homemade yogurt is amazing. That's something our family has done for a long time. How much sugar do you need to cut the bitterness? Catholic tradition is asking Cheryl. So Cheryl's saying, oh yes, yum. If you like hops, hops jelly, hops liqueur, hops mustard, all kinds of yummys. Okay, I gotta look this up then. Okay, I think tomorrow morning maybe I harvest hops. I was gonna go apple picking too, so we see. That's awesome. You can make cheeses. I love cheese, cheese. Elder God, peach. I can eat a peach for hours. Sorry, I haven't used it in a while. These streams are not for kids. Legendary Rob Boss to Emily. I haven't gotten that far yet, but have maybe the next step after get yogurt down. Once you get yogurt down, butter is easy to make too. I've never made butter, but family has made butter. I've seen them make butter. You don't get much, but it tastes really good. Let us know how that goes, Emily says. I wish I knew how to make cheese. Yeah, me too. Legendary Rob Boss, I buy raw milk cheeses from an Amish farm, some good for now. Awesome. Man, we don't have, do we have any Amish farms here? No, we got farms, but they're not the Amish or the Mennonites and stuff. They have amazing breads, by the way. If you go to the Amish or Mennonite farms and stuff. So, Catherine Niciccio, a local vintner, serves artisan brick oven pizza in his little restaurant. He has a pizza where he uses dried hops as a spice. Dried hops, oh, we could try them. Definitely unique and distinct flavor. Oh, I didn't think about dry them. Dry them would be so easy. Legendary Rob Boss, yes, I'm actually enjoying one of their in-corn sourdough breads. It's amazing, yeah. Oh, good idea. Yeah, yeah, dry the hops. Oh, hell yeah. You know what I think, I want to dry the hops. I'll see if I can make the jam out of them, but just dried hops. Just cut them and just hang them. I'll dry them exactly the same way I dry them. I've been drying a lot of mints, well some mints anyway. So, that'll be cool. Gang, we're almost at two hours. We're almost at two hours. Should we call the stream? I hope you're still having good snacks. I got one more pineapple here. Whenever you have these, the fruit liqueurs, you gotta go, breathe out, breathe out. Have you tried using any of those solar dehydrated, dehydrated, yeah? Not solar, we have a dehydrator, but we haven't brought it out to use it. I just hang things to dry them, herbs anyway. For fruits, we haven't done the fruits yet. We need more snacks. Quick, I'll look at a finalist question. There's only one thing to do with Obstichio. Make beer. I'm not set up to make beer. I'm not really drinking beer. I used to drink beer. I went through phases where I used to drink beer and then don't drink beer. I started, like for me, I started my drinking career with vodka. I couldn't believe the first time I drank beer, I was like, oh God, why do people drink this? And then slowly, over time, I started really liking to taste the beer on a hot day and stuff like that, super good. And it's a different buzz. Obstichio, which currency is the most future-safe? I'm like, God says. Obstichio currencies. Obstichio coins. Future stream idea, making homemade mead. We need the honey for that. We need the raw honey from the top. I cannot do beer at all. It's so bad to me. Yeah, lonely piggy. For me, it makes me all bloated. I enjoy the life without beer. Fish burn. Thank you very much for the tier one sub. Gang, let's call the stream with that. Thank you for being here. Great discussion. Great discussion. Fun times. Great ideas. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, your recommendations, your suggestions, your ideas. Thank you for the conversations, gang. And what we'll do, we've got one more stream in the set and that's Wednesday. We're doing a comic book reading. One of the best streams. Fantastic stream. Kron, how are you doing? Great talk, legendary Bob Boss. Love talking with others that share a passion for making their own foods and learning. Yeah, me too. Me too indeed. Gang, if you want to follow this work, come on patreon.patreon.com forward slash gcho. C-H-Y-C-H-O. If you want to support this work, if you have the means to support this work, Patreon is a fantastic way to do so. I don't put anything beyond paywalls. Everything's great in commons. Share and share alike. You're gonna follow the work and after a while, if you think it's worth supporting this work with funds, Patreon is a fantastic way to do so. And for those of you who've been supporting this work through Patreon, thank you very much for the support. I hope you have a good night. I'm gonna crash. Sweet dreams, Emily, sweet dreams. Thanks for the stream. As always, Lonely Pegasus, Gcho. Have a good night, everyone. Good night, everyone. I hope you have fantastic dreams. Good night all, legendary Bob Boss. Bob Ross. 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