 I think my dad was a pretty headstrong person, but you had to be, you know, it was a hard life because when he moved out to the farm and things were, you know, they practically lived in a tent to, but anything, because the government gave them land, least land. And to get the West moving, they're still trying to do it. And so I think it was, my dad was sort of like that. Mum followed along because, like, my mother never wrote a check until she was on her own and my dad died in 1972 and she had to. And she would say, oh, I can't write a check. I'm so nervous, you know. So it was, I was always very independent that way.