 Holy mackerel guys, this Jason Vernon thing has blown up. So I woke up this morning I went to bed where it was Steve as a crackpot. Steve's ideas are terrible. They're awful I wake up this morning and it's now Steve is a criminal Steve is a plagiarist Steve is dishonest. He's a thief Absolutely hysterical and a little bit embarrassing So as I said before my intention behind this whole review thing was to demonstrate to people how petty and anti-intellectual many of those in academia are and it has turned I was not intending this but it has turned into Jason Brennan destroying his own reputation by trying to character assassinate me and You know, I'm sorry to anybody that's watching this video that had is trying to hold on to some respect for Jason Brennan Look the guy's literally lying. You're going to find out about it in about five minutes It's it's tragic. That's the circumstance. He can attack me all he wants. I'm going to defend myself Um, he's currently in the process or has already deleted a bunch of his online digital trail to cover up the outrageous things He's been saying so let me present to you two competing theories and don't take my word for what I think the truth is We're going to go through some screenshots theory number one I am a really dishonest person. Oh my gosh. I broke a contract. I posted a thing without his permission I I wasn't going to send him his money. He literally said he was thinking of suing me suing me. Oh, right, right So this is the theory of why I'm uh, this is theory number one Bad dishonest person and the reason this part. I'm not quite clear on apparently the reason I posted the review is because I'm Bitter that it's bad or I'm bitter that it's critical of me or something like that You have to clarify exactly in this theory why I decided to post the review theory number two Jason brunnan is upset that I'm mocking him because of his terrible review Doing what I thought he would do and now he is actively engaged and literally blatantly Lying in order to character assassinate me and discredit my project what I'm doing and trying to attack me as a person Okay, two competing theories. I'm a terrible monster or Jason brunnan is intentionally painting me as such while Knowing better Shall we begin with some of the facts now as I go through these? I don't know if You guys are going to be able to see them on his wall. I do know so he's blocked me So I can't respond to any of these outrageous allegations On his wall to anybody that's been following him And if I could I mean I understand why I did that because if I could he would look like what he's about to Look like in this video So I know though because people are sending me screenshots. I know He said all the things I'll I'll put the screenshot. I'll overlay the screenshots in this video So you may be able to correlate this correspond this he may have already deleted it. I don't know but here we go Okay, so here's the first situation to analyze with our two competing theories The day that brunnan sent me the review I woke up and I'm a few hours behind because I'm in new zealand right now And I woke up to him sending the review and a bunch of people asking me if I had paid him yet Steve did you pay him yet? Did you pay him yet? Did you pay him yet? It was like 11 in the morning or something And I had a bunch of people And I was like why why is everybody freaking out about this? Are they really acting like I'm not going to follow through Like the whole did the kick start a thing. I'm just going to run away with a thousand dollars Ah some pieces of the puzzle Here is a post that jason brunnan put on the website bleeding heart libertarians that I just discovered Like yesterday, I didn't realize he apparently had in mind from the very beginning That he was going to try to act like he was unsure if I was going to pay him He doesn't know maybe I'm a bad actor He had that in mind from the beginning, which is a little surprising I thought maybe he would try to pull us out of his butt Uh after the fact but no he did this from the very beginning and I quote This is uh, this is a post I'm bleeding heart libertarians as you may have heard I agreed to read and write a minimum 1200 word review of st paterson square one the foundations of knowledge in exchange for $1,000 I send him the 2,500 word review today as per our agreement I have submitted the review to a journal if three journals rejected. I will post it here. I will post it here Listen listen this says I haven't heard back from him So I don't know if he intends to keep his word and pay me He posted this while I was sleeping right he must have literally sent me the thing and then posted this online Hmm interesting doesn't know if I intend to keep my word Okay, let's look at some more facts about what has been claimed Somebody asked him on his facebook wall. So what happens when he refuses to pay up? Jason Brennan responds legal demand letter followed by lawsuit Yes, yes stoking the flames. Well, I mean gosh, I don't know if he's gonna pay maybe he's gonna pay baby He's not I mean if he doesn't I'll have to sue him I wonder why he would why he would post that now. I believe that one is one of the ones For good reason that he's deleted, but there it is Let's see what else has he claimed He says apparently Steve Patterson just posted my review online without my permission and against our agreement I oh my gosh. I told him I was going to edit for typos Oh, we'll come back to that He says but it's under review right right now elsewhere. He also hasn't paid me yet I might have to sue him for stealing my intellectual property and for failing to keep his contract Wow I wonder why he's doing this now this one I don't know if that one was deleted before it was edited or whatever But that's another one. He's trying to cover up saying these outrageous things Somebody else asked him on his facebook wall You didn't have any contract with him or get part of the money up front Jason says I have an email agreement plus all the public stuff easy win in small claims court And then he gives a little tidbit And he did offer to pay first I said no the norm is I write the new pay. I'm a professional and do professional things Hmm. Here's a few facts That mr. Brennan has intentionally left out knowing better and intentionally trying to imply That maybe I was going to pay him and maybe I wasn't fact number one I literally offered to pay him Immediately after the crowdfunding. I sent him an email saying hey, how would you like to be paid paypal? Bitcoin a check and he told me Yeah I'd like to be paid by check. You can write me the check after I send you the review great. Okay Oh, there's another fact of the circumstance by the way I'm in new zealand right now and checks take a little bit of time to go through the mail Hmm So fact number two I told him because he he asked me like right after he sent me the thing. Did you did you send the check yet? I said like I I just woke up. I'm in new zealand It's a weekend. I places might be closed. I'll send it as soon as possible He said, oh, well, you can send it to me on paypal. That way you can avoid the international Uh carrier fees. I said great. I'll take him up on it. Sounds good immediately I transferred I started in paypal a bank transfer Taking a thousand dollars from my bank account to paypal so that I could pay him Well, it just so happens that he knows because I told him That it takes a few days before the money goes from the traditional banking establishment into paypal to send him And now he's gonna pay me fact number three. I also offered to pay him in bitcoin, which is literally instant Okay, not literally instant 10 minute confirmation times. Okay Practically instant a lot easier way to pay when you're in a different country, by the way He declined and wanted to pay pal thing. So after I I post his review He sent me these I keep getting these emails. You pay me. You gotta pay me. You gotta pay. Oh my gosh Why don't you pay me like, you know why he didn't pay you because I'm in another country and you wanted to check And then you wanted paypal and then it takes a few days to get from my bank account to paypal Did he mention this? Of course not Fact number, what are we at five? He so and so now he starts demanding the money After I published the review. I'm thinking I mean, okay, dude, whatever. So he says you can pay me via paypal via paypal with a credit card It'll be instant, but you have to pay the credit card fee. It's like 30 bucks or whatever And originally I thought well, this is ridiculous. The whole point of the paypal thing was to avoid the fees It's going to be cheaper than 30 bucks to send you a check in the mail, but I acquiesced I said, okay So I put it on my credit card on paypal even though it's literally the money is in the middle of being transferred from paypal I mean from my bank account From my bank account to paypal So this whole bullshit about he didn't know whether I was going to pay is a deliberate lie that is meant to Cast me as some bad person when he knows full well the whole time that obviously I'm going to pay All right, next situation to view through the lens of maybe I'm a bad person or maybe jason brinner is intentionally lying to people Let's go back to what he claimed. I told him Steve paterson posted my review without my permission and against our agreement. I told him I was going to edit for typos This literally guys is a hundred percent a lie Let me read you verbatim what he sent me via email verbatim So he sends me the the review. He says hi steve as promised here's the review. I may edit it slightly After sending it to you Yes, that's right. I may edit it. I may edit it slightly after sending it to you and that turned into what exactly this turned into This turned into I told him I was going to edit for typos bullshit Intentional bullshit that is designed to act to paint me as this person that posted this thing with typos Even though he said he was going to edit it for them. It's a lie. Ask him about it. Okay, so now let's go to the circumstance that has generated this Uh hyperbole hysteria this morning this idea that uh breached a contract because I I posted it before the permission Okay, so now for those of you who haven't been following along Let me tell you how this whole thing started and you'll understand why this is utterly ludicrous This whole thing starts because I made a post I said here's a challenge to all my peers in academia who care about the world of ideas You have all kinds of doubts about the system from which my ideas come because it's not peer reviewed I said, how about this read a copy of square one. I'll send you one if you don't want to buy it Uh two write an honest review of it be as brutal as you like but judge the ideas not the author or the system Three post it here. I will read your review and write a response I will I will post your review no matter how critical on my page slash website for everybody to see If you're serious intellectuals you should evaluate ideas on their own regardless of the system that they emerge from So please demonstrate your interest is not in participating in a club But rather participating in intellectual discussion If the ideas in square one fail Then your review will help guide people away from my work and you'll do the world of ideas a great service Pretty straightforward read the book write a review. I'll post it Brennan posts on that he says I'll read your book and write a 1200 review for a thousand dollars At this time I thought okay the guy's just being an arrogant ass. I know I know He's kind of known for doing this. Whatever. I ignored it. Then he continues. He insists He says still we still willing to read your book and write a 1200 word honest review for 1000 dollars reasonable compensation for my time To which of course I ignore because I think ludicrous Then he then he comments on somebody else's threat. I don't care who pays if Putin paid me 1000 dollars to read Steve's book And write a 1200 word review. I'd do it to which I responded nothing Oh, and then he says He then he makes this long post and says literally I'm quoting this is this is the contract So 1000 dollars Because I'm I'm refusing him. So he's sweetening the deal So 1000 dollars and I'll read it and write an honest review I will even try to publish the review in a few journals if that fails. I'll post it on bleeding heart libertarians I might be able to get to succeed in getting it In a journal because I have quite a bit of clout that an insider status that you despise Though my cloud is in PPE not epistemology. There it is folks I ignored him and he's sweetened the deal by saying I'll even try to publish the review In a few journals now even at this time. I was thinking whatever. This is I'm not I think I I have posted somewhere that says like No, that's ridiculous And then I had some conversations with some people that gave me advice. They said steve Why don't you take him up on it? Why don't you do a crowdfunding thing raise the money? And he's trolling you. So why don't you accept you accept what he's dishing and call him on it? I thought That's a pretty good idea. So that's exactly what I did started the crowdfunding thing raised a thousand dollars Uh and immediately sent him the email saying hey, how do you want to be paid? I'll take you up on it So if you've not been following along, that's how this whole thing started Imagine that you're sitting in your house somebody knocks at the door and they say hey, hey, uh, hey, mr. Patterson I will I'll wash your car for a hundred dollars and I ignore them and I go whatever he knocks again. No, no, really I'll wash your car for a hundred dollars. That's what I'll do. No, whatever. No, I think if you ever do Ignore ignore ignore. He knocks again. He says hey If you pay me a hundred dollars, I'll sweeten the deal not only will I wash your car I'll also clean your gutters and I'll also paint the fence and then how do we have a deal to which I say Initially no and then All right, I'll take you up on that. You have made the deal sweet enough Where you're doing all these things great. Let's see what happens and now folks Because I've posted the review because he you know washed the car And I didn't let him clean the gutters the other services that he's offering me It's a breach of contract He's offering me services that I refused and then he's offering me additional services Which I originally accepted because I thought yeah, okay This seems like a good idea the first service that he provided me was of good enough quality by my metric That I didn't need the other services. So now he's claiming that this is some kind of a contract I have a breach of contract. What the heck is the contract? I I have the email that I sent him when I accepted his offer. Let me get it for you So I say I accept your offer and one thousand dollar fee to read my book write a 1200 word review Try to get it published in an academic journal and if it fails posted on bhl How would you like to be paid paypal bitcoin a check? So that's it. That's literally what he's claiming is this contractually binding thing that I'm not allowed to post it until he Puts it in these other reviews. So he sends me when he sends me the review He says this he says after he says I may I might Slightly edit it after sending it to you blah blah blah. He says, please do not post this online This will preclude it from getting a spot in a journal Now maybe maybe this is what he's going to say. I told him that to post it. This was in the contract No, this is like somebody to return to the analogy somebody who I've refused when they say hey I'll wash your car for a hundred bucks. They say hey, I'll I'll even clean your gutter For that same hundred bucks and then he says But please don't open the door while I'm trying to clean your gutter. So he washes the car I'm so pleased with the job that he does that I say hey, I open the door and I say hey By the way, don't worry about the other stuff. I appreciate I sincerely appreciate that he's Following through on all the services that he was offering me. I do I even said that in email I appreciate that he was doing that, but it's unnecessary the hundred dollar the thousand dollars Is sufficient compensation for the review that he gave me. I do not require the other services So if jason can actually provide a contract or any kind of evidence that to suggest That after one service was provided I wasn't allowed to post the thing anywhere That would be great because until then it's literally a deliberate lie that he knows is a lie in order to discredit me It's especially ironic or like manipulative that he's using this language in libertarian circles He's also a libertarian because breach of contracts are really stinking big deal So Uncoincidentally that seems to be the word that the Phrase that he's come up with to try to really deeply cut at my character when it's just bullshit if I Does anybody really think who's been following this that if I had signed some contract that said I will not post this Uh, even if I even if I'm rejecting the other services of getting it posted in the journal I will absolutely not post this until you posted on bleeding heart libertarians first Obviously, that's what I'm going to do Maybe this fits maybe this fits the narrative. Maybe I'm just stupid like maybe I didn't realize. Oh, that's gonna backfire No completely ludicrous and he is aware of it again two competing theories Maybe it was malicious and evil and illegal on my end Or maybe it's malicious on his end folks. It gets even Crazier. This is another post that I believe he's uh deleted, right? So he gets the little shot out just to take a little shot of me and then He takes it back and deletes it so that I don't call him on it. Oops. Here's a screenshot He says update on la ferre Paterson. He says a prominent philosophy magazine has commissioned me to write up a story about what happened I'll discuss why I wanted to do this for money Patterson's breach of contract and I quote theft Of my intellectual property and why I think the book is weak and the few good arguments are borrowed without Attribution and now we start to transition to the next outrageous claim that now I'm a plagiarist not only my fee for the bad person Moving along from being an idiot now. I'm I am a plagiarist. So in the midst of all of this guys Brennan sent me an updated version So the first one I posted on my website and this is what I brought the I did the video about Was laughable. I mean I mocked it because it deserves to be mocked and then he sent me another version after the fact Which makes some changes almost all of the changes make it even more extreme So he changes phrases where he's like, you know Patterson successfully refutes super duper skepticism He literally changes it to like Patterson repeats Arguments that refute radical super duper skepticism throughout. He doesn't even give me the credit For doing what I accomplish what I set out to accomplish. He's now claiming I'm doing it without attribution And I quote again, I don't know this one might still be up Maybe it's not Patterson posted the revised version of my review on his website. He's mad that I gave him even less credit than before I'm not mad my friend. I'm quite happy He says but in my revised version I want to make it extra clear that the arguments he presents in chapter three are not new He probably plagiarized them from Ayn Rand who got them from others But at any rate they aren't no and he shouldn't be passing off others work as his own As I said in my original review the stuff about arguments The stuff about arguments against logic and validating themselves is literally something we teach students in an introductory courses It's a point everyone in philosophy knows Holy mackerel guys first of all I would love to know if Ayn Rand actually said that logic and existence are inseparable because the objective is ask any Objectivist whether or not I'm an objectivist and they'll say no absolutely not Totally not an objectivist, but he of course. He doesn't know how to deal with my arguments So that's what he's trying to do is I stole them from Ayn Rand The second point of this is it's super flattering. I mean to be honest, right A legitimate criticism of me and my work is that I spend a whole lot of time In my own head I don't read that much philosophy Because I find most of it pretentious and I find most of it foundationally mistaken, especially modern philosophy So he's claiming that my arguments were stolen from other people and that they're being taught in introductory philosophy courses So that's very flattering. It says something about the ideas, but also it's wrong And of course, I don't know if he realizes this is because he's not an epistemologist But on one on the one hand it might be true that on the surface That's something that I might teach students in introductory courses. That's right But at higher levels not in the introductory students You have what are called para consistent logicians jason brennan. Maybe you're unaware of them I've been interacting with quite a lot of them You have a ton of people in the world both in academia and outside of academia Who deny the existence of any absolute certain truth as I said in my video before the paramount classical logician In the world timothy williamson I spoke to in person at oxford who you'd think would be somebody that would understand what he's talking about It would say oh, of course everybody agrees with these ideas Well, but he didn't because I pressed him about whether or not he thought the law of identity and non-contradiction Were certainly true could not be false and he was uncomfortable giving me an answer. He said well I think that would be essentially dogmatic So jason brennan doesn't even understand That the people at the top of the field who would agree maybe that the laws of logic invalidate themselves When you actually get into deeper conversations with them, they would disagree with my claims in the book that you can be Absolutely 100 crystal clear perfectly certain that the laws of logic are absolute and inescapable Okay, so now we're going to do a grab bag of these posts that he may or may not delete I don't know but people are sending them to me He says I'm going to I'm going to get to tell an audience in the hundreds of thousands That he's a liar a plagiarist and a thief I hope he enjoys that He says I'm surprised given who his readers are that they haven't called him on plagiarizing iron rands arguments Yeah, well apparently you're not aware of either rands arguments or mine because the objectivists don't like me And get this exchange guys. He goes Somebody asked him Did you also request that you remove the material from his website per the terms of your agreement? He said I requested that he said no I finally said pay me now and I will drop to bit I will drop demanding you to take it down. He says that in quotes. It's certainly not quote He said wow, did he say he why he wouldn't remove it? Oh, he claims he paid for it I pointed out that he had not in fact paid me and we agreed he wouldn't do this That it look does I don't know if jason bernard wants me to post our email exchange But I'm totally fine with that look he claims he paid for it I pointed out that he had not in fact paid me and we agreed he wouldn't do this Why I mean back it up jason. Where's where's the email? Where's our correspondence ludicrous? He says in this case, we know he's rather than we know the good ideas in square one are in rand Oh, this is fucking hysterical um This somebody says oh, I see that makes this so much so much worse He says exactly chapter three is rehashed randian metaphysics without attribution Maybe ari the iron randians student will sue him for plagiarism now folks There are two competing theories here It is either the case that I have rehashed randian metaphysics Without attribution or it's the case that this is literally jason bernard line To try to discredit me. Hey, here's a resolution Chapter three is right now available online a free preview on my website steve-paterson.com Slash square one Download it and tell me it's rehashed randian metaphysics ask any objectivist who has watched any of my view my videos on Metaphysics whether or not this is objectivism. It's funny. I had an email correspondence with a guy a little bit ago Who was saying, um, you know, essentially good good job with all of this. You made a very good argument He said but in one respect brennan is right that you were few super duper radical skepticism But not radical skepticism. I said that's funny. That's correct because I am a radical skeptic I'm not I'm not an objectivist objectivist hate me because I am a radical skeptic I don't think we can have certain knowledge about anything in the external world It would be remarkable for me to make a claim to write a book at some Bridging the divide between the mind and the world when I in my worldview as people would know if they listened to me That I think we are in effect Stuck in our minds. I love to talk about the actual philosophy of that later Again with the plagiarism thing. This is a desperate. He said he should be citing Rothbard and iron rand. Please jason do me a favor I'm totally unaware of where Rothbard or iron rand Would would have something to say about this. I could see the randian thing when I say existence Exists right instead of existence. I'm saying existence with a t. He's saying rand says existence Oh, okay. Yes, I stole that from iron rand when actually I don't like the term existence exists because then you have to define What existence is which she does an objectivism by essentially saying that the world is as we see it And my point is to say I don't know what the existents are except that I know they are what they are Are we tired of this yet? Is this obvious yet? Okay. Well, we'll continue just in case somebody's still somehow on the fence This person says I've been following this until recently I did read the version of your review that he posted on the site. I understand why you agreed to do the review Blah blah blah essentially saying aren't there enough reasonably high quality philosophy books out there to review as far as I can Tell there are far too many philosophy books published by reputable presses already So he's essentially saying jason, why'd you even agree to do this? He says I agree. I set up front actually I said that I agree I set up front actually before he raised the money the same thing But I also agreed. I would give it a shot. No jason you offered me to do this. I did not reach out to you You were pompously dancing around saying, yeah, maybe a thousand dollars. I read the book and I called you on it Not doing me a favor, buddy. You're providing a service to me The employer you're the employee providing a service. This is that some oh, thank you for taking my works Seriously, I paid him a thousand dollars. Give me a break Here we go ready Patterson really shot himself in the face here Had he not posted this last night the thing that I paid him a thousand dollars to write What would have happened is that there'd be a negative review of his book in a major outlet next month Instead now there will be a negative review plus a story about his breach of contract And dishonesty in short. He's going from bad philosopher to bad philosopher thief And liar Okay, there are two competing theories here folks Make up your mind So somebody asked but was there a contractual understanding that a the work is not to be posted in Modified but only in the original form Wait, what I didn't modify it. I copied and pasted the thing onto my website It says or b that the work is not steves to do with what he'd like until there are three rejections Says I'm just wondering if theft of my intellectual property is a bit harsh here Jason responds. We agreed he would not do this. That's a lie. It says I explicitly told him not to post this because it was under review Yeah, it was under review. You're on the roof cleaning the leaves out of my gutters because that's what I paid you to do And I decided hey, thank you for the service. You don't need to keep doing this I appreciate it. You earned the thousand dollars fair and square You don't have to follow through on the rest of your obligations. Mr. Employee And again, show me where I agreed. I said, oh, I'm like when you send me the review I'm gonna sit on my hands and wait until it goes through all the proper things No, I paid for it and I decided that it was time for it to be published Oh, and I'll get to this guys this absolutely this reminds me I'll talk about a little at the end I'll talk a little bit about like um people who are on the left and how they do these type of things He says he paid me says somebody asked him I'm not exactly sure. I don't have the thing where um He asked him, but he said he paid me last night after after some pushing He thinks it's silly. I insisted on being paid right away But after he breached our agreement and posted my stuff without permission. I worried I cannot trust him Yes, this is a very common tactic that you notice with people especially on the left where they use the I did this video about How they changed definitely people on the left like to change definitions for words things become violent You know, you know saying nasty things now is now violent. I'm just worried. He might hurt me Yeah, as I explained yet, obviously I was going to pay him. He knew from the beginning the whole circumstance exactly why that's just Another way to say oh, I don't know. Maybe he's gonna show up at my house. I don't know Okay, so I think that's all of the screenshots I have I'm sure there's a lot more out there if you ask people been following this He's been deleting these threads left and right But I mean, do I really have to say any more guys? This is Do you want me to go through? Maybe I'll go through the other ones where where he posted them to took down where he's saying This review is so bad. It's I'm not even gonna address half the book because it's so bad He's of course deleted those as well. So so again for anybody that's on the fence, you know, I apologize for bursting your bubble I do I do genuinely feel bad for Jason clearly He he's existentially threatened at this point. Of course. He did it to himself Um Here's a resolution I invite Jason Brennan to come on my show Patterson in Pursuit and let's talk about it. Let's talk about the facts Let's talk about this magical contract that he claims was breached, which is the most Deep and intentional cutting at my character of any of the nonsense that he's posted Yeah, I'd like to read it. Let's see what the contract is Jason We can also talk about the ideas in the book because you didn't do that in the review So I'd be happy to talk about the ideas in the book. You are welcome to clear all of this up Clear your own name clear defend yourself in real time having this conversation with the evil man My suspicion is that he's not gonna come on the show But he's more than welcome if he wants to listen to Patterson Pursuit, you know, I give all of my guests a fair shake I've got every incentive at this point guys. Like I have said I have not deleted any of my facebook posts. I have not deleted any emails I have not made up any screenshots, you know, I've not deleted any videos Make up your own mind. The evidence is out there. Don't take his word for it I have just established stop taking his word for it investigate for yourself the conclusions speak for themselves and again, you're more than welcome to come on Patterson in Pursuit and You know, we'll we'll get to the bottom of this. What do you guys think? Think I'll come on which theory would this be more consistent with the theory where he's Afraid of me because I'm a bad person Or that he's obviously intentionally trying to dismiss everything that I'm doing and has absolutely no incentive or interest in talking about the truth So thanks again for supporting everybody the crowdfunding campaign was a success. This has been a successful so far I mean, I'll keep responding as much as Jason wants. I can't wait to actually see what when he comes up with I'm waiting for the racism sexism homophobia claims Right I'm ready for the threats. He's a threatening letter. I mean, I I can't wait to see what he comes up with But I mean, it's going to be tough, right? Because he's he's dug himself this Incredible hole and he keeps digging deeper and he wants to blow it up into something. Please blow it up Blow it up as big as you like anybody the people who are going to Think I'm discredited. Are you going to people that aren't going to watch this video? They're not going to read the book. They're not they're part of the social in-group I don't give a care about them anybody in that as many people as he wants to bring anybody that's actually going to investigate this with an open mind is going to see the obvious conclusion and again Just ask him. Let's see the email, you know, let's make it public post it on bleeding heart libertarians If you like I'm more than happy to post the entirety of our email exchange. Is Jason Brennan? Yeah, stay tuned to find out