 Certification of Compliance with the Open Meeting Law. The agenda was posted on the 15th of December at 2 p.m. Thank you. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. And to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Roll call. There are 22 supervisors present. Thank you. Approval of the November 7, 2017 journal. Supervisor Winkle. Move to approve. Thank you, Supervisor Winkle. Supervisor Koch. Second. Thank you, Supervisor Koch. Any questions or discussion? All those in favor, vote aye. Opposed, nay. Motion is pretty unanimously. Okay, consideration of appointments by the chairperson. For the Monarch Library System, a reappointment will be brought into the Veterans Service Commissionary Appointment, Jennifer Samson. Supervisor Epping. Thank you, Chairman. Motion to approve. What are the sub-appointments? Thank you, Supervisor Epping. Supervisor Tastrui. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, all second motion. Thank you, Supervisor Tastrui. Any discussion? If not, please push your i-button or an a. Those appointments are a preview unanimously. Thank you. Presentations. We have none. Public addresses. There was one with the Roger Hollingstead, but he called and could make it to him. Thank you. Letters, communications, and announcements. We have none. Thank you. County Administrators Report. Adam? Hey, Mr. Chairman. Good evening. Good evening. Well, we should be out of here relatively soon, I think. I hope too many of you weren't disappointed when we said Administrators Report and John didn't respond. There is none. I have four topics I want to touch on briefly. One, as you are aware, if you review the e-mail that I sent out, I think yesterday in response to our friend, Supervisor Jim Baumgart, Chairman Weger and I did have an opportunity to testify in support of Senate Bill 466 and Assembly Bill 588. And as you know, this has been a topic of discussion in our community for years. The EPA has regulations in place that are very important to protect air quality for our constituents, our family and friends, and what the EPA does and the Department of Natural Resources does is very important. However, we have a monitoring station right on the shore of Lake Michigan that is capturing predominantly emissions or pollution from other areas outside of Sheboyton County. From Indiana, Chicago, Illinois. So, the Chamber and our local businesses have been working for some time in Sheboyton County, other local units of government, as well as the Department of Natural Resources to see what can be done to address the problem that the EPA is utilizing this monitoring station to put regulations here in place that our citizens and businesses are subject to that is really punitive and unfair because they're relying on air quality data, again, measuring pollution and emissions from other areas outside of Sheboyton County. So, to the credit of the County Board, working in collaboration with the DNR and the Chamber, we established a second monitoring station in Haven, which is on County property via one of our highway sheds in 2014 to start capturing data from the emissions of our actual local businesses. What we're producing here. And now after three years of data, it's been determined that we are meeting EPA regulations, at least to the extent where we wouldn't need this more burdensome or heavy regulation that, again, is not only punitive to the citizens and local businesses here, but really can have an impact for a business choosing to expand or families to move here to work in this community. So, Senator Devin Lemieux as well as our other local area legislators proposed legislation for the DNR to say rather than collecting the data from this station, we should be collecting it from the Haven station and sharing that with the EPA, the EPA should be relying on that. And ultimately this may be more about music than actual action because the EPA needs to listen and to date they have not and it will be the EPA's decision on which monitoring station they ultimately choose to continue to use. So, Chairman Wagner and I, Mayor Van Der Stien and other community leaders weighed in and expressed their support for this. There is an accompanying bill that I think Senator Strobel has authored and I'm pretty certain that's the bill that Jim Baumgart was alluding to where Senator Strobel was looking for the DNR to really roll back all sorts of regulation that's been put in place for a citizen's best interest by the State Department of Natural Resources and it was looking for one swipe to eliminate a lot of this regulation and any regulation the DNR would put in after 10 years would just automatically expire. Imagine a situation where rules you put in place or other good governance that's in place whether it's speeding limits what have you or just gone revisit and start from scratch without anything in play. Obviously that can be problematic. So, I don't know if that legislation is going to have legs or not. Personally, Chairman Wagner and I do not support that legislation I think and would rather rely on our state and our State Department of Natural Resources to put in protections for our citizens and the federal government but that's a different piece of legislation. And, of course, for our TVA viewers and Edmund Fellner's here from the Plymouth Review, I think it's important to continue to make sure that the community is aware that this is an unfair, punitive regulation that the EPA hangs their hat on because of pollution from other states and as the DNR has concluded even if all of our local businesses completely eliminated any emissions, it would not impact the Kohler Andre monitoring station enough to reduce the current level of regulation that the EPA is requiring. So, it really boils down to good science and common sense to make a change there. Second thing I wanted to touch on was again something that Chairman Wagner and I recently had the privilege of participating in and it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the county board. In 2016, as you know, under the leadership of Ed Stangle and many others predominantly at our Health and Human Services Department, the county established the Drug and Alcohol Treatment Court. And this is an initiative that we need to do more of rather than people sitting in our detention center not getting the help they need to get back on the right path, get back with their families, be contributing members of the community rather than sitting in the detention center and just not getting help. Individuals that meet certain criteria are getting all sorts of support from our judicial branch, our Health and Human Services Department, law enforcement, it's an incredible collaborative effort to help people. People who have made mistakes would certainly deserve a second chance. And so Ed Stangle reached out to Chairman Wagner and I and Tom had a chance to say a few words to the group but they had their first graduation. That was last Friday. It was Friday. Last week Friday. The older I get, the more I lose track of time. Last week Friday and I can't tell you how heartwarming it was to sit there and see the first graduate after a year going through this process. I mean, there's a lot of involvement and responsibility that those individuals need to take to be successful. To see that play out where this person with their child and I don't know if it was a wife or significant other in the courtroom going to be able to be reconvened with their family and then the individual spoke to the judge and everyone involved and thanked everyone in the county including the county board for the support to get this program going. So if you ever get a chance to sit in on one of these court proceedings and see how they interact with the clients and get a feel for the different resources that are pulled together I encourage you to do it because it really I think reflects so well on Cheboy and the county for providing us and if you see Ed Stangle which certainly you see Judge Stangle at our legislative breakfasts and occasionally other forums please thank him because he does an excellent job. The third thing I wanted to touch on as I have every board meeting for quite some time now is the transportation complex update so of course the ones you can power that up for me we're about 75% done we continue to make good progress the staff from Elkhart Lake and Plymouth Sheds are praised to move in either year end which obviously is within the next couple of weeks or as Greg Chanel shared with me today it might be the first or second week in January because they obviously are working hard to make that happen but the final facility will be completed in April excellent. So what's happened we were so blessed with some good weather up through December 1st I think deer hunting weekend was miserable but the week thereafter really we had some nice weather and our excellent Highway Department crew not only did over 31 miles of paving this year which they take a lot of pride in but they got all the paving done around the transportation complex and obviously that's nice for maintaining it the winter and plowing people coming and going so they were able to get that all done by December 1st next slide here's an aerial this was taken before obviously they completed all of it but you can see the paving in the back is quite a bit that surrounds our footprint there and again our workforce did it and they did an excellent job and we're just so thankful just long enough for them to be able to get in there and do so. Just to get you orientated that's the salt shed that's right in the foreground there the building right in front of that is the cold storage facility and then of course the large building in the background is the main head another shot of it there you can see the fuel area right to the in front of the building again it's all now a beautiful asphalt and looking good next slide. The cold storage if you drive by now you see them starting to work on that and getting the walls going up so that's in play next slide this is a beautiful training area for our staff as well as it's going to serve as an emergency operations center and not a lot of people may recall that or have thought about that you think about this transportation complex and the importance of it and the investment it is for our community but there was enough more sites that went into this building and the plans and the location that Steve Steinhardt our emergency management director and others have worked together to make sure that this room has all the capability that in the situation where we have a real emergency or we lose one of our main facilities this is a place that emergency responders leaders can convene when there's a real crisis so that's going to be a dual opportunity there for use of the facility next slide this is the main parking area and the picture really doesn't do it justice because for those of you who have been in it and the number of you have it is immense it is a large room but what's different today the last time you were in there it is now painted next slide over 20,000 gallons of paint are going into this complex so a lot of people have been working hard on getting the paint on the next slide and to help them out we convened our department heads and you can see those buckets in front of us there and we all pulled together we had a department heads meeting out there a week or so and toured the facility along with the former chairman Roger Distrudi and Mark Winkles there and I know the chairman Wenger went through it the week earlier when we had a meeting out there most of our department heads had a chance to come out and see it many of them for the first time and as you can see we looked really good in those outfits next slide this is the locker room the staff of our facility are going to have a very nice locker room next slide this is the salt shed just ordered all the salt I guess that holds what salt in this facility alone Bites thank you Bites, 5,000 tons thank you 5,000 tons of salt in that facility alone what did he share with me that we ordered 12 tons 5,000 tons going to the new complex site and selling for about $72 which is depending on your perspective maybe not too bad we've paid more but we've also paid less hopefully we're not going to have to be using too much of that too soon sounds like we've got weather coming Thursday 75% complete Elkhart and Plymouth staff are going to be looking to move in within the next few weeks and we'll have it done in April and so far so good wanted to end on the budget and I shared this snapshot before but it really is a credit to beast and just some good fortune as you recall we budgeted $24.8 million plus $25 million for this facility the bid process produced a million dollars under budget thanks to some competitive bidding so that was good we have a significant contingency because of course you always have change orders or things come up and because of the good attention to the budget and how the building has been going up the finance committee the transportation committee agreed that we could reduce that contingency by $500,000 so the bonding resolution you have before you and there was a memo from our finance director in your packet we'll be looking for not obviously a motion to support that which has already been this bonding has already been supported as part of our budget process and the five-year capital planning process will be reduced by half million again because we're in good financial position with completing this transportation problem so I feel good about that thank you Chris finally if German Weger and Vice-German Martensi could join me we have two service award pins tonight that's why there's so many people here this evening family and friends like Aaron Brault Dave Lafine if Aaron could please come forward with a highly coveted service award discussion good evening your wife and kids couldn't make it tonight apparently you didn't invite your parents you know they watch it on TV well we'll muddle along the best we can I'm very fond of Aaron as I am all of our department is but Aaron started with us ten years ago and it's hard to believe that ten years have passed when he started he was hired as transportation program coordinator relatively young new position in our planning and conservation department as you know we were so fortunate to receive this twenty five million dollar grant as the three other communities across the nation and Aaron had a key role in implementing that and working with the community to come up with plans and projects and see it through and shortly after working in that position manager of that program and shortly after that we had an opening for director and I asked him if he would serve as our interim planning and conservation he agreed and he shone and in 2011 Aaron was appointed our director of planning and conservation and what I find incredibly remarkable about Aaron is young hadn't been a planning and conservation director before hadn't worked for a county bar size with roles and responsibilities that he and his staff have and his track record as a planning and conservation director I have to believe his track record is as good if not better than any of his peers in this state if not the region it is remarkable what Aaron has accomplished obviously with the support of the precom committee as a whole but it is remarkable just to name a few non motorized transportation grant as I mentioned he took the lead in implementing that not only as a staffer but ultimately as a director and total it is a $28 million grant to Sheboygan county actually received a little bit more than originally projected the Sheboygan river and Harvard dredging project Superfund site one of the dirtiest and dirtiest in the country black eye of the community Aaron stepped right in helped lead the charge to get people to come together from all walks of life ultimately this community was able to capture over $100 million of resources to clean up the Sheboygan river and Harvard and dredge that filthy Aaron's leadership was just outstanding outstanding in addition to that he and his staff have been applying for Brownfield grants to help with redevelopment areas and they now have not only been more successful in that area than ever before but it's led to about $25 million of redevelopment thanks to Aaron's leadership thanks to his staff and then finally and I sent an email just this afternoon about our Amsterdam dunes wetland mitigation bank and preservation area and our really two tremendous opportunities to preserve a beautiful area and secondly to create this mitigation bank that is in the works again under Aaron's leadership so ultimately we can help with growth and development in the community. Natural resource damage assessment grant is looking favorable as they touched on but Aaron also was able to successfully apply for what may be the largest state stewardship grant in history of the state $2.4 million toward our preservation area I doubt there are too many planning and conservation directors that can share that kind of track record this is just four examples so Aaron I'm so proud that you work for Shenboyle County I thank you for your 10 years of leadership I thank you for the team that you put together the beautiful family that you're raising you might get to see is son and daughter from time to time I see him at the YMCA Aaron and his wife Jenny they're just good people and he's making good things happen so please join Chairman Wagner and Vice Chairman Martensi and I in thanking Aaron and recognizing him for 10 consecutive years of service to the people in Shenboyle County 30 years of service 30 years of service Dave and I didn't spend as much time together during our 10 year here I've been here going on like 19 years and we haven't spent as much time together as Aaron and I have and part of that he's the corner you know but I tell you every time we sit down and talk and it always happens during the budget development process but occasionally in other instances he is one of the most sincere down to earth genuine people you will ever meet and the work that he does it's fascinating what he does I think largely we take it for granted we take it for granted because one is very good at what he does two has been doing it for 30 years but it's just one of those areas that someone takes care of that type of important work 1987 he was the elected corner and of course his mission is to help families and loved ones whether it's a death investigation whether it's signing a cremation permit whether sadly it's an autopsy he is working with people at a very difficult time it's challenging work and much of the work he does follows state statute he has to do and needs to do it and I can't imagine many of us would want to do that kind of work takes a special person he has four part-time deputies of course Dave has built his team and he's starting to think about how much longer he may want to do this type of work but in 2015 in great part because of Dave's own advocacy the county board changed his position from an elected corner position to an appointed medical director medical examiner and Dave really advocated for it and that was interesting because when you're talking about a change like that that can create some angst or is that really the right thing to do well he's got a strong medical background the work he does requires a medical background he wanted to retire that we could hire the most qualified person with a medical background to continue the important work that he and his staff do so he personally helped lead that charge with the law committee and with myself and the county board ultimately the board made the change and we were fortunate that he stayed and who among us noticed any difference whatsoever totally a smooth transition handled it beautifully and now when Dave does decide to retire and we're in no hurry but when he does we're going to be in position to recruit and hire the most qualified person we can in a position so I know Dave has told myself and others that he takes a lot of pride in helping with that change I certainly appreciate his leadership and his support with that and I encourage you if you haven't taken the time to talk to our former coroner and current medical examiner to do so sometime I mean that necessarily be someone who we're hoping shows up at our front door but he is a very very good man who does incredible work thank you 30 years next I'd ask if we have consideration of committee reports at Dave's committee resolution number 19 regarding authorizing the issuance and sale of 7.18 million of general obligation promissory notes right and I'm going to ask Brad Bigote from our bound council from Baird to come up first and explain it before we get on it Brad Bigote with Baird we're serving as underwriter for the issuance of this obligation I'll walk through a presentation packet prior to this meeting and it was taken up at an earlier meeting on the executive committee this evening the finance committee the first page after the cover provides a summary of the resolution we're considering this evening by way of description this is a general obligation promissory note issue size of 6.680,000 that represents the $500,000 reduction in the bonding for this project that was authorized by the county board the funds will close and be available to the county on January 10th of next year and they're scheduled principal payments annually beginning May 1st of 2019 with the final payment of May 1st of 2027 first interest is budgeted for payment on May 1st of next year and then interest payments will be semi-annually through 2027 there is a call feature that is the county has the ability to prepay this debt through financing or with funds available on hand so the 2026 and 27 maturities can be prepaid at the county's option on May 1st 2025 for any business day thereafter I've outlined two ratings that are assigned first there's an issuer rating for Moody's investor service Moody's did was not asked to assign a rating to this specific transaction but rather Moody's release the report that it provides for these types of ratings it's an annual rating report and Moody's assigned the double A2 rating for the county's debt the complete rating report is attached from both of these just a few of the highlights I want to be sure to touch on on both reports first Moody starts under the credit overview section by describing Cheboygan very good and they continue on in that paragraph to talk about a substantial tax base and healthy socioeconomic profile all of the other factors cited on the Moody's report are also positive by way of finances they're calling the financial position of the county very strong debt and pensions are identified as extremely small the economy and the tax base very strong overall and then the management and governance section follows the second rating you'll see is from S&P Global at Standard & Poor's Global Standard & Poor's was asked to assign a rating to this transaction Standard & Poor's assigned a double A- rating and this is the first time that Standard & Poor's has rated the county's debt their rating report is also attached there's a very significant difference with their characterization of the economic condition of the county where they're calling the economy of the county weak I couldn't disagree more Standard & Poor's is missing the mark in their characterization of the county's economic profile it's really a flaw in their analysis and that is that they look at the industry concentration and if that concentration is above 30% in any industry that puts an anchor on the county's rating while the manufacturing concentration here in the county is just over 30% Standard & Poor's methodology is very rigid and is not compromising so for example they're not taking into consideration all of the food related manufacturing, medical equipment and so on things that are recession troops so to speak and that's leading to this 30% concentration which is leading to this mischaracterization of the county's economic condition all of the other factors are very positive and all of these other factors that Standard & Poor's evaluates are factors that you as elected officials and your county staff have direct control over influencing so specifically Standard & Poor's talks about strong management good financial policies your adequate budgetary performance that's a recognition that you maintain a balanced budget very strong budgetary flexibility they talk about the solid fund balance of the county very strong liquidity strong debt and contingent liability position and a strong institutional framework so but for their misunderstanding mischaracterization of the economy very very positive overall we bear this out in the marketplace this morning taking orders from investors the initial interest rate that we had anticipated the initial rates we went out with to the market were at 2.42% for this obligation we had such strong demand there were so many investors that wanted to buy a county's debt and invest in the county we were able to reduce that interest rate and that reduced rate is reflected in your resolution it's here in terms of summary that rate is 2.39% so you're getting a financing package that's going to be paid off by 2027 below 2.4% we remain in a very attractive interest rate environment and when the county is taking on a project like this transportation complex and your other capital projects that this is financing it's really a very good time to be in the market and to lock in rates at a very attractive level on the following page there's a very detailed financing plan I won't walk through this line by line but I would point out that this plan was taken to finance it was massaged it was designed to meet the goals that the county needs to meet in allowing for potential future debt issuance it doesn't commit to any future debt issues but there's room to layer in borrowings if needed out into the future and there's overall a downward movement in the debt repayments so this plan as it's presented here meets all of the goals that were laid out by the finance committee prior to securing this debt the last sections here have detailed, the detailed rating reports that I've already referenced I won't walk through those again line by line I covered those, the high points on that I wanted to make sure that all of the county board received printed copies so that we have hard copies of those reports so with that I'd be glad to go into additional detail to answer your questions so glad to see you Rainer Rainer I do have a few questions because I know the tax bill is both in the House and the Senate will you tax this one of the and it to the finance refunding of municipal loans and will that amount the situation? it will not allow repayment in advance of the call date once at the call date the county can repay you with other bonds or with other available funds so in this case the call date would be quite a few years in the future correct? correct and so when we look at the county's overall debt profile that's why we make sure to have other debt issuances that have call features that are earlier to provide the flexibility the county may need so that legislation or that change in the tax law will not impact the previous bonds that we had on standing it prohibits the issuance of tax exempt debt to advance refund any other obligations so it doesn't change those call features it just prohibits the county from issuing debt in advance of those call dates on the tax exempt basis so we appreciate that change then since we typically do pay the county still has the ability to issue taxable obligations to prepaid debt in fact I just with another issuer entered into that type of an arrangement where taxable bonds were issued to advance refund tax exempt debt so you're not locked from the market you still have flexibility not as much flexibility though that we had before the end of this year do you see any other I've noticed there are a number of pieces relating to municipal bonds that aren't what they're saying because of the type of state mobile tax deductions in part will be reduced there's a greater increase in the high state areas is that something that's driving the demand on your specific issue it's driving the demand this is the name it's the good credit quality of the county it wasn't sure if it was related to some of the tax of prospective tax changes that were coming out driving the demand for this thank you surprise or epic thank you very much as you stated your true interest cost is 2.39% that was negotiated from what 2.9% the initial was 2.42 this morning subsequent to that order period I'm not much in the financial but 2.42 2.39% it doesn't seem like to be that much of a substantial change is it I suppose on a large volume like we're doing it's a substantial amount this type of market it has a very sharp edge so we can see interest rate movements of less than 100th of a percentage point in this case we're seeing a movement that's as a follow up question to that is the fact that that S&P's rating was not as good as Moody's did that have the impact that had on the better interest rating less than 2.39% yeah the standard pours rating coming in where it did and probably had an estimated impact of .05% or 5 basis points so a small impact to convert that to dollars it's around $1,500 annually throughout the repayment period of these notes I was just disappointed that S&P was under I think they would have gotten a better rating I completely agree S&P really missed the ball on the economic environment and you're a county with 2.5% on employment that's essentially full employment from an economic standpoint you've got a very solid tax base in manufacturing sure but broader than that throughout the county residential and commercial and you're a very well managed county so I completely agree that the standard pours did not get the rating right how do we deal with that? well the Moody's report came out one day after that standard and pours report the investors in your debt have access to both of those reports and they're reading both of those so they're disclosed out on dissemination websites and there's notifications that are coming to the investors of your debt and they're updating these reports and they can see how strong the Moody's disagrees with standard pours analysis okay thank you very much for that explanation thank you Supervisor Epping anything else for Brad? thank you very much Brad then I'll go back to Supervisor Weigman thank you Mr. Chairman I'll move for an option of resolution number 19 thank you Supervisor Weigman and Supervisor Winkle but in our point of order Supervisor Weigman, would your motion adopt as amended? yes thank you thank you this gets a little convoluted so now I need a motion to adopt as amended before I vote Supervisor Gehring thank you Mr. Chairman I would like that motion to adopt as amended to a new amount to the lower amount thank you Supervisor Gehring thank you Mr. Chairman okay now we're voting on to adopt as amended which was the reduction I'm being corrected here by Carl thank you Carl everybody square? the deal is this when the resolution first came on it was for the 7 million dollar borrow your budget was adopted knocking a half a million off as indicated because of the work on the transportation complex so when it was introduced it was the 7 million when it got to the Executive Committee it was knocked down by the half million so it has been introduced as amended out of the Executive Committee however when it came out of the Executive Committee it had certain blanks in it because as Brad indicated until it actually comes out for solicitation we can't fill in the blanks the blanks were filled in at the meeting of the Finance Committee just before the Board meeting tonight so therefore you need to vote on amending the Executive Committee's proposal which amended the original finance so you're voting first to amend the Finance Committee's report incorporating the numbers that Brad provided this afternoon and you wonder why I got confused thank you Carl, you're right I know you're right so everybody's square we're voting on this now so push your I button or an A button I got a motion no more motions upon the completion of the debate you don't need any more more discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion just a quick question what is our total bond and indebtedness for the county after a while back we took out 10 million that's still on my desk so I'm just kind of curious and I'm sure we're well within the limits but I'm just wondering what we have out there I know at the leadership every year we talk about that we show that graph and we're substantially below the limit but I've got the number off in I know Wendy do you have that available let me push your button alright that was very innocent thank you Wendy we're projecting 36.8 okay thank you Supervisor Hoffman I won't use that phrase again Supervisor Ureter I appreciate getting the answers to some of the questions I got out yesterday and getting that information and you know I was thinking the same situation as Brian where back in June we incurred a general obligation note for 10 million dollars that was on actually May 16th of this year, 17 and now I understand this is for 2018 debt one of the questions I have is April May timeframe that 10 million dollars was noted as for the capital improvement for the new transportation complex you'll see at this point portion of this 6.7 million dollars is also for the transportation complex and the 6 were basically the transportation always directed towards me in the night okay thank you even if I don't have the answer I find the person who does so that was your question is first we borrowed back a transportation complex now this 10 million or 6.7 million dollars is also for the transportation complex why we did it over to Wendy you want to answer that please the 10 million is for it included the transportation complex but it was for all of the 2017 5 year capital plan capital projects and that is the same for the 6 million year it is for the 2018 all the capital projects in the 5 year plan for 2018 so a combination thank you oops go ahead so then I realize our self-imposed debt limit is 11 million dollars per year and if that 10 million was for I don't think that's right it's not 11 million dollars every two years self-imposed debt limit you voted to go above the self-imposed debt limit so there is no self-imposed debt limit for these borrowers you have resolutions in both the November cycle budget cycle in the year before approving going over the self-imposed limit okay thank you so for these last two years then we've gone over our self-imposed limit and we've given our self-improval to do so go ahead so I'm thinking through this standpoint that we also just instituted the sales tax part of that will be used for roads because the budget for roads is 6 million and we're anticipating 9 to 10 million dollars from the sales tax so I guess I'm kind of struggling with the need for extra and definitely was glad we're reducing it from the 10 to the 6.7 but I'm still trying to grasp my hands around with that added sales tax hey keep in mind on the sales tax the roads are then we used a million dollars for property tax reduction and we used a million and a half that we're sharing so that upset number 2.5 million dollars right there go ahead half percent sales tax as you know is a separate matter we're sharing a separate matter from the bonding the bonding before you today we're fortunate to be able to reduce it from a little over 7 million to 6.6 that's good and yes it is more than the self-imposed but that's because the board chose as part of the five-year capital plan and the budget adoption which has already happened already gone through and vetted this for months as well as discussed the annual county board leadership forum so this is really now just following through to complete our transportation complex as well as the other projects that the board moved and voted on as part of the five-year capital plan and the budget and both documents by the way are now have new columns on them and are on your desk but we adopted the budget and five-year capital plan in the full winter already so those decisions have already been made I think we're going to bond for it thank you Supervisor Eppett thank you Chairman Whitmer when Supervisor Greener starts talking about all these figures and bond limits and whether or not we're behind or above or whatever it is my understanding and just to keep it simple for my own understanding we initially had bond limits of $4 million over 2 years each of you each year over each year so because we have these projects that we wanted to and because the market was at such a state that we could get money at a very reasonable rate we increased our our spending limits ourselves as a county board right? and so at this point is my understanding and correct me if I'm wrong we are still within our own self-imposed bond limits but they're a little bit bigger so initially we just started all of it is that correct? I think you're right you just shed some light on the subject thank you I just let it thank you Adam you want to for clarification and again this is a successful track record as well over a decade ago the county board established a self-imposed bonding limitation we have followed that very very closely also bonding and why we got the kind of good rating reported from these well below the state imposed limitations that's for certain we have made an exception for the transportation complex that's why we're above and beyond as well as the other areas that are in the five-year capital plan but going forward you now have further reduced our self-imposed limitation finance committee recommended to reduce it from four million a year or eight million every two years to two and a half million a year so we have further reduced our own self-bonded limitation which we intend to follow going forward unless the board determines that there's a project immense enough such as the detention center which the law committee was successful hitting in the five-year capital plan perhaps five years out at the cost of 25 million that would be an opportunity where you probably have to go above and beyond yourself imposed but we continue to lower that bar which is again what the county board is a good successful financial tracker and a surprise to the finance chair thank you Mr. Chairman I do want to point out we have a 24 million dollar project here that came in under budget our plan was to borrow as little as possible and use some general funds when you look at what we did last year what we did this year we borrowed about 14 million for that project and the rest have been funded by the sale of properties and by coming under budget so the other monies were for our capital budget last year about two and a half million dollars now I would remind the board we don't always go for bonding every year we typically bond every other year so if we're asked if our capital projects budget is two and a half million a year we usually go up market then every two years about five million dollars and that's the intent going forward here hopefully we have no other big projects in the face for a while thank you Surveyser Weigman Surveyser Hoffman thank you Mr. Chairman I voted for this increase in the bonding limit and that's because I think the future is bright for Sheboygan County I believe in Sheboygan County and I think we're on the right track we put all our our trucks so on and so forth and one central location for maintenance and things like that yes we'll have a couple other sheds but I think this was the way to go I know it's expensive but I think the future is bright I really believe that so that's why I voted for this bonding increase thank you Surveyser Hoffman I think you're at the limit of three this is Surveyser Rainer this is your third one your relationship to the roads are not on the capital plan and we're anticipating getting after we reduce the other pieces we have at least 7 million dollars so we have an extra million dollars that are not being used for roads is that anticipated to just go on our general fund that's really not on this bond issue that's another I guess I'm looking at it is that a million dollars then that would be used for other capital projects I'll just say quickly with the sales tax money there is money that goes into we're holding back so many to correct Wendy if I remember correctly we have a fund to finish my comment I just don't feel comfortable voting for this piece again I think I made that clear last year I said that you know unless we have a better picture that we can present as far as why we continue to have both the sales tax and the added bond of all because what was mentioned a moment ago we don't have a 10 million dollars per year bond limit we have an 11 million dollars every two years so there is some understanding with that okay thank you any other questions or comments okay then we're ready to vote and that gave you plenty of time Cheryl to get it up on the board so please push your i or nay button we'll wait for supervisor Bemis as he returns that motion is approved 21 i and 1 nay thank you very much okay ordinance number 8 regarding amending section 72.15 and 72.32 of the shoreline ordinance regarding like michigan setback recommendation 2 and a thank you thank you supervisor damper thank you supervisor damper any questions or discussion seeing no lights no he went a second please push the i or nay button that motion is pretty unanimously thank you very much i'll turn the gavel over to the vice chair resolution is introduced resolution number 20 from the finance committee regarding amending land records modernization plan resolution number 20 is referred to the executive committee resolution number 21 from planning resources ag and extension committee regarding approving acquisition of alliantility corridor property for erect trail development resolution number 21 is referred to the executive committee resolution number 22 from planning resources ag and extension committee regarding authorizing sheboyin county planning and conservation department to apply for resolution number 22 is referred to the finance committee ordinance number 9 from the transportation committee regarding establishing speed zones on county roads j and p town of rye ordinance number 9 is referred to the law committee ordinance number 10 from the transportation committee regarding adding sheboyin county aviation corporation representative to airport advisory committee ordinance number 10 is referred to the executive committee extending the agenda as a motion to adjournment I move to adjourn motion is for adjournment is there a second to raise a winkle second motion second to adjourn all in favor