 Cedar trees or woody encroachment has kind of been an issue in the southern plains all the way down into Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska are all facing the issue and here in southern South Dakota we're kind of at the front end of that movement north. What has been termed the green glacier or cedar glacier we see a lot of movement up the Missouri River corridor. We're also seeing it in some of our other river systems in South Dakota though so just not to the extent that we see it here. Well they used to have a cabin down here on the river and they'd come down like Sundays or whatever and fish or whatever and yeah they took pictures there was no no trees no cedars at all down in this country and and you can see what's happened since then you know they really invaded it's kind of like Rod said it's kind of a glacier heading north. Well we actually have a conversion of land use in the gray plains we're all pretty familiar with the conversion of of grassland to cropland but there's there's another conversion that's going on that's less obvious and that's the conversion of grassland to a forested system and that's what's happening underneath these cedars. We moved back here in 2006 and then I really started looking at it I have some pictures of the last 30 or 40 years or however long it just slowly they got more and more and more and people there were farmers and ranchers didn't realize it I guess and they never made an attempt to try to control them. Now some of the trees are 15 20 feet tall just absolutely nothing will grow under those thick canopy cedar trees. This really shows what what we're losing just how fast the these cedar trees can take over we had a hard enough time getting in here with just the three of us and these cedar canopies they get so thick you know nothing's growing in them once this cedar encroachment takes over an area you know the the grazing potential that you lose the wildlife potential that you lose to to this site to this um to that this particular pasture it's just it's pretty incredible. A lot of people look and they they look out and they they see trees and they we've been taught that there's value in trees and there are however on the prairie the it's not the tree it's the grass that should be there.