 You a little surprised with the DAC, Mike McCarthy interactions? No. There's a little odd sometimes. Really? It's just a little. OK, so they don't know each other at all. Mike has been there for a year. And DAC has obviously been there for, I don't know if they know much about each other. I mean, maybe OTAs, they got a chance to get to learn about each other. This is maybe their second training camp, because they did go through it late. But I don't think they know a lot about each other. Last year, that was when the locker room was allegedly saying that Mike McCarthy's coaches can't coach. And early on last year, it was not good between the players. It might.