 All right, thanks for staying with us now greatness truly starts with a vision and when you think about Nigeria You realize that the reason that we haven't attained the greatness that we so Darely seek is due to lack of vision having no clarity of vision of what we want to achieve as a country or people Of course of what want to achieve as a country or people is more detrimental than we think because today We have seen it play out in different strata's of you know our lives as a people so today We're asking is it possible to get visionary leadership in Nigeria now? Please just hear what you have say ha today. Well, please. We apologize It's my fault again. The WhatsApp number is not available But if you can go on our YouTube and just drop a message I'll get the message and I'll read the message if you can go on our YouTube You can also tweet others at which I've come on with a hashtag wish you please leave us a message If you really want to leave us a message go on our YouTube page for today all right, so Diola and Jennifer Hilda Batchi, that's her popular stage name, but she's Hilda Basti F. Young, right? So this young girl has had I hear that she's had a vision for God knows how long She's had that vision for a while saying that you know what she this is that I think she wants to do and if you see I met Hilda at At a TV station that we're supposed to launch ways on pop central TV and immediately I saw her I knew okay, this person is really really first of all she loves to cook You know she's I mean you can see her doing her show with so much smiles and all of that She's somebody that loves what she does and you know what? I and when I got a message on what's up saying that oh, please support us, you know and all of that I was you know the next day the only thing I said to her was congratulations because I already saw that it was going to be doable I mean she would achieve it You know so one thing stood out for me when I was watching because I went to the Amori Gardens yesterday I also went there today. Unfortunately today the crowd was like top of the I couldn't even go close to like entering the Building but I went there yesterday and when I saw her I just saw someone that you know what had said Okay, you know what? I have a goal and this is how I need to do it and I need to put in the work Right and so when you see people attain greatness, it's a no-brainer when you see that these people first of all had a plan I remember that I was going into a strategy session many years ago With some lady that taught us how to create because I love to my my sole purpose apart from what I do is Vision right and I teach this vision to young children in schools secondary schools In fact, I'm really praying to God that I'm able to resume my school tours because those are the things that gives me joy The ability to put your vision in pictorial forms So you cut out different papers different words that comes to you you put it on the board It's called a vision board and you have that you look at it every day and you say you know what I'm gonna get this So I remember the vision board I had created. I think it was in 2014 or 2015. I'm not sure or 2013 Now when I look back at that vision board like 90% of those things are already crossed out of it, right? Ways so many things that had written down. It's already out of that. So when the The story of the young girl saying that she wanted to They attempt to want him to break a Guinness book of record, you know, first of all, she went she counted the costs Of course, you looked at okay. What are the things who has done this before? What am I up against how many days that she did a dry run? You know, you know, she's done so many things She put a team together And this team small team but very efficient team they knew exactly what she's needed and Today the story is history. She is I mean, we're just waiting for Guinness. Please do People are already telling Guinness book of record. Don't try also Don't play like eye neck, right? But we're just waiting for the official announcement by the Guinness book book of records team, you know, because they also were monitoring, right? And she's she's done it and she did not only she she had actually set a goal of 96 She's surpassed it now. She's over 100 right 100 hours standing cooking So you see when I saw this I said it is possible But you see anything is possible. We can become Nigeria can become like a first class country that is functional Right, it can be possible. But it first of all starts with Us telling ourselves that this is where we are going and we have that clarity that this is the vision This is where we're going, right? So for me, I just want us to discuss first of all What your thoughts on Hilda's achievements, you know, and do you think it is possible for us to begin to really get visionaries as leaders in this country? So I think um for Hilda what she has just done is quite amazing. I I mean, it's not easy to stand for that long even cooking for two hours I get tired and I just want to sit But looking at The plans that she put in place You can see that she actually thought about the entire process and she did her due diligence And that's the reason why she's here today. I mean she thought about her fitness got sponsors thought about the location What needs to be done how she needs to get there and what she needs to achieve to get to that point? I mean, it's not easy and I really congratulate her for that. What she has done is is is amazing I feel like this is something people will think about for a long Time and one thing I love about Nigerians is we know how to support our own When people came out in mass The rain was heavy last night and people stood under the rain Supporting her. I mean there were times if you watch the video, there were times where she was actually Crying and you could tell that this lady is already tired. Nigerians started praying for her They started praying. She had an assistant that stood beside her all through massaging her shoulder cleaning her sweat cleaning her tears This just talks about this is just discipline dedication And she had a picture in mind. This is what I want to achieve as she has achieved it Thank you. So congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. I like the fact that you said she had a picture So there was clarity see a until our vision as a nation is crystal clear Like we have clarity. This is who we want to be as Nigerians is it's impossible for us to get together anywhere Now there's something else you said because I'll come to diola. You said something around Nigerians And this is what I want our leaders to really understand Right the reason you find a lot of resistance with the Nigerians that you claim that oh, especially the youth that you've called all of us, you know If the youth sees honesty and sincerity In your vision Right, that is the view if you have one The kind of support you're going to get from the Nigerian youth. Trust me. It will be unprecedented Because this girl even the team they did not plan the crowd I said this afternoon at 3 p.m. When I got there they were still trooping in They did not plan for that crowd All she did was she had a vision and she wanted to do this and look at how Nigerians came out a mass to support it So we are begging our leaders set the vision in front of us Give us clear picture of what you want and see Nigerians show up to make sure that that vision comes to life Let me come to you diola. What's your thought on healer? And how do you think we can tie this to visionary leadership in Nigeria? Okay, so um, I mean the whole world celebrates healer and myself inclusive I think she's she's done amazing. She's she has done an amazing job. Um I love the parts that um We have holds we have all said about having a vision But it is not enough to have a vision. It is important that you have A plan to implement that vision and I think that's always where a lot of people get it wrong Sometimes I mean for a vision to to work You it's it's a lot of work. It's a lot of hard work. It requires that you sit down you think about the people the resources Everything that you need You know the the whole chain to ensure that you give yourself the best possible Chance for that vision to run You know, but um a lot of times our visions are very individualistic Especially when we're aiming very high now for me The biggest thing that I I took from um healer is um She not only had the vision She she saw that vision to her team Because you could tell that everybody was Confirmed everybody understood that listen this vision is not just healers It is for all of us healers when is our win And everybody puts in their very best and that's the work of visionary leadership If you're a visionary and you cannot sell your vision Which most oftentimes means that you need to put round pegs in round holes You if it takes you a long time to put the team together to ensure that this is done You understand then I mean it would just all be dreams Anybody can have a dream in fact. I think all of us have dreams But do we all have the passion the resilience the The the um emotional intelligence the skill the competence Everything required to make sure that we actualize that dream Hilda did not just dream. She put in the work. She she put in long years I mean look at look at how she had to get herself Physically fit That's someone who looked at all the possible scenarios for how to be able to stand that long He he he was imperative for her to be at a Simile fitness because I mean if she was not healthy There was no way she would have been she would have been able to stand that long if she was not prepared She probably would have been running up and down looking for one ingredient or something would have just sold her Somehow so for every plan a she probably had a plan b plan c plan c plan d or whatever The most important thing was there was a vision but there was an implementation Mark that would guide her to ensure the actualization of that vision. That's what we need Absolutely, and there's no way to have said it's better than what you've just said. Yeah shoes um So, um, it's beyond just having a vision There has to be clarity first of all And there has to be a proper plan right to the very last detail Would would we would we have surprises spring upon us? Of course They'll be all for seeing circumstances But you see the the problem we have in this country is that the offer seems circumstances seems to be a lot more at every time because We have deadlines. We we've said deadlines. Okay the uh legacy battle express will be completed x y z In this year, this will be completed the Niger bridge the second Niger bridge will have power We would sort out this these are like big Right as far as I am concerned They are big promises because every promise that Our leaders have made we've seen a a complete recycle So if if if we bring out uh buhari's president buhari's um, what's the called um Promises can print promises Juxtapose that with what um the president elects now has promised you see that they are almost similar in terms of the The things the projects and all of that because why a lot of times these projects are just recycled Right. There is almost like there is zero intent of completion of the project. Yeah, so it is that it is now that um What's the called that distrust? That makes it difficult for Nigerians to even say, you know what they trust the process You know, they trust that that these leaders truly have our interest at heart Right, so if we continue like this It's going to be impossible for us to even grow You know as a people But you know, let's go on a break when we come back from that break, um We'll sort out um No, we don't have any guests but we'll continue the conversation stay with us All right, thanks for staying with us. Now if you just tuned in we're discussing the of course, um Nigeria and the cost of lack of vision remember, you can join the conversation send us an sms or what's up to grade one There's what's up today Send us a message or youtube or or twitter to us at we should have come on the hashtag we show I apologize. I apologize. I apologize for the what's up Number today All right, so I mean ladies, um, so this conversation is something that um, You know I want because again, it's so quick for Nigerians to Especially I'm talking about our political leaders to lash on things like this and use the opportunity to score cheap points Right. I mean like you see with the president, um Uh elect with the president Um the vice president the presidential candidates of both labor and pdp And of course most of the let me stick to the political leaders because we're talking governance, right? But you see the way the way you called or the way you showed up to celebrate hilda It is also possible that nigerians will actually show up and nigerians would love to engage you to say, you know What this is a great feat. This is a great achievement So I I want our leadership to be To move beyond, you know, this there's this thing that says, um You want to be seen to be doing something? Yeah, not that you're actually doing the thing But you just want to have let people have perceived that you're doing something That's how I feel when it comes to Nigerian leadership And I believe is because we don't really have clarity of purpose, right? It is impossible for you to succeed at anything if you do not have clear vision On this is what we want to achieve. This is where we're going. So, I mean if we have never thought about it before Right. I believe that every opportunity like these are like milestones for learning, right? So this is a major achievement in our in our great history in Nigeria, right? A world record But it's also an opportunity and avenue for us to reevaluate We know what is the nigerian vision? What do we want to be known for? Who are we as Nigerians? You know, how do we want our people to live? How do we want to? Like if we go outside of the shores of this country, how do we want to be addressed as the people? And all of those things are tied to how You know people perceive you the look and feel of your country starting from the airports to your roads You know to your infrastructure to everything to power to all these things that really make up decent living for humans Right. So imagine if we have clarity and a clear vision and we have a plan because what Diola said is very important We have a clear plan A strategy then we then take action Because all of these things without action is also not going to work Bible says faith without work is dead. Go ahead Jennifer. You know one thing I noticed is Our government never really has like a proper roadmap Now when you have a project first of all They'll ask you the why Why are you building this or why is this your vision? Then how how do you intend to execute? How do you intend to implement and then when? When do you intend to do it? It's not just by saying I'm going to build this bridge or I'm going to create Or a mini city in this particular town or turn this village to a full city Or a conglomerate or something like that There has to be clear there has to be clear plan just like Like Agila said execution and implementation is very very important and when people can see these things they know exactly What to hold on to now if you just come out and say oh, this is my vision Okay The next question is what next? How do we well? Where do we go from here? How do we achieve it? Now I can tell someone I have a vision now It's okay for you to have a vision and not know how to implement That's why you have people you know bring the right you bring the right team and then you delegate That's where delegation comes in you delegate and say okay this person. This is your strength. I know you can achieve this So everyone knows your vision like like you said there's a vision board Everyone can see what the vision is and then there are different angles different tentacles Okay, you're coming from not you're coming from south you're coming from different angles And then when you bring it together and it comes to the midpoints You know that you have achieved it at the end of the day, but first of all people need to see the plan People need to know that You have these things in sight. You know what exactly what you want to achieve It's not just saying things off the top of your head Anybody can wake up and say things off the top of their head. I can wake up today and say you know what's on my streets I want to start the route Now once I come out and say that I mean that's a very bold statement Especially because I'm I'm just a citizen now when I say something like that people would ask me how do you intend to achieve this? Now if you have a plan people start to ask you okay, what about finances? Who do you want to contract it to? Which company would you give to bring the resources or the materials that are needed to make the road? For for the people who are living on the streets What was the contingency plan and anything is there's also risk management? You also have to think about What if something happens if something bad happens? How do we prevent this from happening and if we cannot prevent it? How do we solve for it? So you have to think about different scenarios different things that would happen And you also need to have backups. So if Challenge A comes up. How do we solve for it? If challenge B comes up, how do we solve for it? And now if we solve for it and something else comes up We need to think so you have to tie up all the loose ends and even after doing all of this It doesn't mean that you're still not going to have challenges But because you already have a plan In place to solve every likely problem that might come up When something out of the ordinary comes up at least to an extent you're able to solve for it Absolutely But we don't see this with our government and it's very very worrisome And that's why people have actually just lost hope and then when you come up today and you say oh I want to this I people tell you that's what the last person said That's what the last two persons said. So how do you intend to achieve this? So it's like you're just blowing air at the end of the day and there's nothing to you can't even You can't hold there. There's nothing to hold them to let me come to you Diora Because as we wrap up now, I was just going to say that I've heard this argument several times that Nigeria is not suffering from lack of Plan that we have very fantastic plans, but they're all on paper, right? So I've heard this argument, but I choose to believe that is not is not possible We don't need too many things. We need we need the Nigerian dream We need something that we can say, you know what? Nigeria is a is a land of greatness everywhere you go to in this Nigeria you become great, you know That's it's not it's not just I reviewed bridges and all of that But hey, let's that's an argument for another day But to your to you Diora as we wrap up in in about two minutes, right? It's a visionary exemplary leadership or a visionary leadership Is it a is this something that we lack and if yes, you know, is it possible for us to get it as a people? Oh, absolutely. I mean absolutely visionary leadership I mean, they're not born that well some they say some leaders are born But I mean anybody can look at a problem and craft a vision from it You know, it's just having the right people. But again, I also think that In fact, it is worrisome because you know diversity is supposed to be a A strength a major strength, especially in governance You know, you're pulling people from across the nation with different competencies different skills different cultural backgrounds and all that And everybody is supposed to you know, bring that to to to to make something of the national dream But I think the problem that we have is We're putting round pegs in square holes. There is a mix mix match somewhere So it is either there is a vision maybe at the top maybe for one or two of them and The followers do not get it. They are not able to translate that vision Into an actionable plan because I mean, think we understand how a government a federal government Will start an infrastructure on that? Lagos, um Ibadon Beggar expressway Takes at least a million people a day And you're telling me that there's no plan people are stuck in traffic for sometimes four five hours So that is I mean the cost of efficiency to not just government to private sector The government is losing money private sector is losing money people are you know, they're falling sick So when governments engage when they engage third parties, you know To help them actualize their dreams These contractors do they do they even understand what is at stake? I mean if you have a government that does not even hold those people accountable They would feel that you know what you can do and undo the government doesn't care I mean if a contractor is not even Doing what they're supposed to do within the timelines given I mean, these are basic information that you know, they're supposed to have at government level Are they are they finding them are they paying some sort of Define such that they understand that if you want to work with Nigerian government These are people with a vision. They don't joke on this. You can't you can't inconvenience their citizens. Absolutely These things and this is preparing to the bill Minimal People put up attitudes of please it is government is government work is retirement Let me just go and be collecting salary. I really don't care Then there's a problem. There's a big problem. But thank you so much Adiola. We ran out of time. Thank you Um, Jennifer now before we go. I don't know. Maybe we might continue the conversation tomorrow I'm sure he follows across all our social media hand is that we're sure africa You can interact with us further drop a comment and more importantly follow all our engagement on social media Like and share and invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation Now if you missed our quote for today here, it is again Create a vision for the life you really want and then work relentlessly towards making it a reality And congratulations again to hilda bachi For the success of the world Guinness book world record. We'll see you guys tomorrow at 8 p.m As we bring another great conversation to your screen. Enjoy