 But you gotta see this is this is artist advice day because a little baby, all right, I found this interesting little baby shares his thought thoughts on ice vice canceling book shows because her price went up I'm surprised you didn't see this check this out girl she's pretty cool I want to ask you about this she was getting booked for three four thousand dollars right they canceled all of them because the song blew up you think it was that the right move I don't I'm not in the music business so I don't know is that so like if you get a song like munch and it blow up right your booking number is three four thousand dollars this blow up and then you can really get a 20 25 do you just cancel you go you go on and still rock out that's what I think I what I would show right we're gonna rock out because it's still only one song right and you need to promote us now here's where this way you get innovative at if I were her I would say you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna do this show for four thousand but you gotta give me the munch girl she that was one of the most interesting clips I've seen in a while first of all I was actually kind of surprised that little baby gave any kind of comment just because you know a lot of time street art is just like hey man you mentioned somebody else that ain't my business ain't my business which I respect right which I respect but he he he cut on multiple different things right so I get it yesterday's price ain't today's price we we've heard that plenty of times but we've experienced this plenty of times with you know paying influencer or whatever situation change and now you want to up it $1,000 and it's one thing when they like oh after this campaign will go up yeah that's what we're talking about we already agreed to the deal and you're gonna switch and you're gonna just not post sometimes we even sit the money over and you just and you're like oh yeah you gave us the rest of them no no no no since that money back we'll see you later like if you would have did it when we paid it we would have caught you before that happened exactly exactly because also it's like hey man look and you're doing this especially on tiktok it's like bro you're gonna be hot for a month yeah now you're not and then you come back to us hey y'all y'all got some campaign work you know it is like hey man keep your relationship just so just like a little baby said man like one is the relationship that he alluded to period right before well I'll say this he alluded to the relationships of one promoter tell another promoter which is a very real thing those people have relationships you gotta remember yeah very small artist look the people in the business often have been in the business for a minute yeah right so they have relationships on relationships because that's how they stay in the business a lot of times right and so it's one the one off promoter which is a line of revenue for you right and then two you know you could be killing multiple streams of income not even realizing it because you screw one person over and now people are just watching like oh is he gonna do me like that I might take a chance on you but it's a completely different energy yeah we have far less leeway like you don't want to you don't want to take that away from you and I get it the bag is going up we ain't seen money like this before we're trying to figure out how to make this money back especially because I know a lot of that is driven by the managers it's probably not just like ice bite saying that yeah you know what I mean yeah but you know and maybe hey they're clout because I don't know much anything really about who's behind or like that you know maybe they're like hey we're so good where we are we can do stuff like that and not care yeah but then it also kills a lot of the like the core dynamics have been a new artist because it's like here are all these shows you got but I mean we saw the the jokes about her rolling loud performance you know what I'm saying people are coming on the fact she's not a great performer so like I think it goes back to another conversation we had about is there other value in this opportunity outside of just the money that you might be getting because the value in that would have been like hey I ain't ever practiced I ain't ever performed before right I haven't performed let me knock out three four five of these 4k shows before I have this rolling loud performance that's gonna basically put me on the big stage and people really gonna be looking at me right and then there's the like I think goes back to how smart the team is in terms like do they know what to do to flip that attention um because I don't know what that last guy was gonna say but I'm pretty sure he's gonna say like maybe she should negotiate like a ticket split or something like on maybe a percentage of the door or something on top of whatever so like that could have been an opportunity that could have took it they probably that would have been pretty fair to like a respectable promoter um could have fucking sold merch so if you brought up more people than you thought you were gonna brandy could have bossed up from you you could have pushed these people to some online shit you got moving on but then most importantly it's like you are a new artist with a viral song like you the most important thing for you at this stage is building relationships not just with the back end people but with all these people that came to see you because all these people that are coming to see you are trying to decide do I like this song enough and you enough to continue paying attention to you and so it's like I don't know let's say she had five shows for four thousand dollars it's five opportunities to win over different people you get a knockdown I think she was asking like 20k the room was what she was asking like 20 25 carat something so I was like okay now most of these promoters probably aren't gonna pay that yet because you're not as proven but let's say you know let's say you get two three of them right um there's two three chances for you to win people over when you could have had eight 10 15 20 you understand whatever and just been just been knocking out and I think it's like a long-term mentality and going back to what we say bro like it's always like you feel like you're not gonna be here for long then yeah go for it you know I'm saying get as much as you can get right now see this is where we go back to Goodwill and the confidence of having a career or not because when you have a feel like you're gonna have an extended career you're more apt to build Goodwill which is I don't need to take every single dime off the table yeah you know it's like all right I leave a little bit on the table because I'm building and I'm gonna cash out bigger and bigger as I go and almost the game becomes I want to leave a little bit more on the table yeah all right so if I always take less than there actually is there's always something right now you owe me the deposits right you owe me yeah right whether that's from a fan base standpoint or you know just Goodwill within business right person to person but that's essentially what's happening and I saw so one of these comments she said nah she doesn't even have her stage presence downpack to even raise anything which goes down to what you're saying so what can you demand because of the song right and what can you what value do you actually produce as a product yeah on stage right and it's one thing people feel differently about a bad performance on a 20k show then they do a bit on a 1k show yeah and there's a couple people in in the you know out there little room even feels different you can have a worse performance but still not feel as bad not bomb as bad and this is without me seeing any of her shows you know this is just based on the commentary and the conversation is more important to me right yeah you ain't miss much but people don't like practice yeah that's really that's really all that should have been that was just practice and I'm gonna it goes back to the pay price bro that's the most important part of it and it goes back to the comedian thing you said earlier but like comedians will go do comedy clubs with 100 people in it to get the joke right so when they step on this you know I'm saying step on this stage with 30,000 people on it that shit is perfect that shit is tight I feel like it's only in music bro people like I don't need to practice man I'm gonna I'm gonna be alright man they can't hear because they think which is still true to some degree like yo they're here for me no matter what and it's like no we are here to see you do a good job we are not just here for you we are here to see you ideally kill it right so I can I can say I have fun I got some good memories get some good pictures for the Grammyship and it's like no no no you're just taking that away from me as a fan you know what I'm saying like you just robbed me robbed me of a good experience but I don't know man I just think that like I always feel like the fan building aspect of artist well the early artist career is the most important part than the money because like look at how many hours we've seen nickel and diamond that way you know what I'm saying for three four five years and on the sixth year they just really blow the fuck up you know what I'm saying now they're getting you know what I'm saying quarter million to I don't know maybe millions of show or something like that depending on how big they are and that's a result of all the work they've been put in and even those artists that don't make it that far can't demand a type of attention they're still good two three five years beyond the moment happening because they took those small opportunities to make sure that we're gonna be straight in the future right yeah I want to talk about Kanye real quick yeah you know that's a touchy subject to talk about Kanye these days but I think there's some important things to be said