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Head over to mapsfitnessproducts.com. Just make sure you use the code September 50, that's September 5th 0th. There's no space for that discount. All right, here comes the show. Yee-hoo! Ready, Doug, got everything going? Everything's going on my end. Perfect, Andrew. Oh, you can't fix that. You can't fix how good we do. Didn't think that joke was coming out there. Not enough filters, man, I can't roll. Not enough filters. Got a face for radio, but what other fucking- Put the fish lens on there. He's a fat fuck, you guys. Stop! Fat and ugly. Stop it. I've heard it all, dude, I've heard it all. That's not true. Let's tell us people talk like that. I like it. Hey, so I was reading a lot this weekend about frequency of training. A lot of studies on frequency. We talked about this a lot on the podcast, right? Yeah. Like, what's the ideal amount of frequency for muscle building and all that stuff? So most of the studies that get quoted on frequency will say something like training body parts two or three days a week. Tends to build more muscle than training body parts once a week, so long as the volume is controlled, so everything's controlled. Exercises controlled, right? Two days a week, three days a week, probably better. But you know that studies show that more frequency than that is even better for strength. You guys know that? No, I thought it full, I actually thought that three was on the upper end and it's actually the sweeter spot is two. For hypertrophy. But the studies do trend higher or better for strength gains for even more frequency. Well, that makes sense just for the argument that we make for practicing and you see what strength athletes are doing their, whatever their lift is, at least four or five times in the week. Exactly, so it's really like a skill thing, right? So they don't necessarily build more muscle. Although I'll argue this, doing cycles like that, I would say in the long term probably would build more muscle, right? Because you're able to squeeze out more from each of those high skill exercises. You just gotta make sure the intensity you bring it down. Which is really hard to do for people. That's the big one. If you're training something four or five times, you know how much you have to back off the intensity? Like at least three of those workouts are really easy. Three of them are pure skill focused. Yeah, where you're probably moving 50% of your load or your max load or less. Yeah, so let's say, and this really applies best to high skill compound lifts. So on top of not only having to manipulate the intensity, we're talking about like squats and presses and rows. It doesn't really make a difference or too much of a benefit to do isolation exercises that often. What was that study? I think you shared this before in the podcast a long time ago was the percentage that a Olympic lifter can get out of their, it's like they can get up to like 98% or something like that. I don't remember the term was, but we all have a capacity, right? And what limits our capacity for power, output, or strength is our central nervous system, which is governed by largely like all these things that tell that it's either safe or not safe, right? So let's say your absolute maximum capacity to lift off the ground is 500 pounds, right? You're not gonna be able to lift 500 pounds because your body's gonna prevent you from going to your absolute max to prevent you from hurting yourself. But Olympic athletes are so, and the reason why there's such good examples is when you guys look at, and no disrespect to Olympic athletes, they're all muscular, they look really good, but when you look at the weight that they lift, it almost never matches. It doesn't make sense. No, you got like 150 pound athletes that are lifting weights that a 230 pound bodybuilder couldn't even move and they don't look like bodybuilders. They just kind of look athletic and it's because they can maximize that power output. At the right time too. So they're very efficient with the energy output. So it's like, you get that first amount that you really need to drive and then you're just in putting yourself in a better position to catch and then the technique of it is at the highest point. Well, the reason why I was asking was, do you have any idea what that is for the general population? So if an Olympic lifter can squeeze out, say 98%. Oh, I would bet it's closer to 50. I bet it was, it's like way low. So imagine if that's true, then doing things like practicing four or five days a week, backing off intensity, you just increasing your capacity by 10% could be a huge difference. Totally. And then this is of course, I brought this up before, the stories of like the mom that lifts the burning car off their kid and everybody's like, how did she do that, right? I think under extreme duress, it probably overrides your CNS. Yeah, your governing is just, yeah, you just sort of override the whole system. Speaking of mom stuff, I have a funny, you just reminded me of a funny mom story that just literally happened like two days ago with Mac. So Mac, like new stuff is happening right now, right? Like so he's learning to switch on and off the lights and he's trying to babble and say new words. One of the things that when we get home, so like, or when I get home from work, he gets all excited, he comes running up to me and he'll like grab my hand and then that's like our time for like the next four hours or so or just him and I are playing. And Katrina will sometimes go over and interact when we're doing stuff like that. And he takes me upstairs. This is like the first time this has ever happened. He takes me upstairs and he wants to sit on his like, his little beanbag thing in his room and we're reading. And so we're up there for like 20 minutes or so and then Katrina decides to come in because she wants to bring up something to do with work. I can't remember, I can actually do one of you guys and she needed to run something by me. And so I'm in there, he's like next to me and we're like reading and then she comes in and I'm like multitasking. I'm kind of reading to him, but then I'm also talking. And so she's sitting on the rocking chair, I'm down the beanbag and he gets up and he walks over to her and he grabs her hand and she gets all, oh cute, he wants us to and he takes her and he walks her out the door and then closes the door behind her and then comes over and then sits down it was the funniest shit ever, dude. He literally was, he was getting irritated because she was taking our time and was trying to try to get in between us talking and she thought, she so thought he was going to go grab her and go sit her next to us and we can all read together as a family. He literally walked her out the door and at first she didn't know. At first she thought like, oh, he's going to take me somewhere else that I want to go. He wants to hang out with mom. She walks out, he lets go over her hand, walks in and closes the door behind her and comes back in. That's adorable. I fucking died, dude. Now he had done something like that, yeah, I thought that was so funny. Yeah, really, if Jessica's nursing him, he likes it to be quiet, but if she's talking to me or anybody while she's nursing him, he'll reach him and put his hand on her mouth. Like to make her stop, make her mouth stop moving. Yeah, dude. Kids are hilarious like shit. That's hilarious. Do you guys have a good weekend? Ah, I mean, they're all sick, man. Oh, yeah. You know, I, when we- It's not the vid though, you guys all did the vid. No, no, no, no, it's just that cold that you and I caught when we went out to Arizona. And it wasn't that bad. Super real. But I, you know, because it wasn't that bad, I was still interacting with Katrina Max and I should have kind of stayed away because they both have it worse than me now. So this whole weekend, I had the two sickies. He was, and he, poor guy, he can't, like when he lays down, he can't breathe really well. So I've got the humidifier and everything over him and he still can't really breathe. That sucks, is he asleep messed up? Oh yeah. So the last like four nights, I've not been getting like hardly. He gets up and comes running in our room right now at like, yeah, one, two o'clock. That's the worst, dude. Dude, speaking of kids, did you guys see the study on BMI rates and how they've changed? So BMI, right, body mass index, it kind of measures the average weight of adults or kids or whatever. They updated this useless metric? Well, it's not, well, yes. Okay, so it's not completely useless because it is a general metric. And if it goes up generally, I think we could assume people aren't building a ton of muscle across. Yeah, I mean, for your average, like, that's what I mean. So they track BMI and it's been steadily increasing over the last few decades, right? People are getting heavier and heavier. And again, it's probably not because everybody's building more muscle and they've been tracking it with kids for a while. During the, when the lockdowns first started and the pandemic first started, the rate of BMI index increase among children, the rate of increase doubled. So it's sped up twice as fast during the whole period of time. So yes, and you know, this really points to sometimes when we react to things and we make decisions, we don't consider any potential unintended consequences. We only think of one metric and we don't consider all these other potential metrics. Like what could that potentially mean for these kids? Because we know that overweight and obese kids, I think they have a 70 or 80% chance of being overweight and obese adults and then what that means, right? So what could this, you know, think about the unintended consequence of all these kids not going anywhere, staying at home, not being around people. Oh, I mean, we experienced this already just like, I mean, I just started to see some bit of an encouraging energy out there with kids coming back into sports and like getting outside and doing things. But for the longest time, like, you know, parents weren't having their kids out there playing, they're pulling them from teams. And it's been the hardest thing ever to just get consistency of kids going to practice and everything. What do you guys think is gonna be the worst group that gets affected by this? Meaning like what age group, right? Well, no, that's too fucking general. Kids, that's under 17, no, I mean like, so I'm noticing like between my nieces and nephews and my brothers and sister, like all these different age groups like that. What period of school, so kids, we know kids, obviously I don't think adults are gonna feel the impact as much as kids are gonna feel the impact. But if you're talking about zero to 17 years old, at what grade do you think is gonna be the most impactful to actually sit an entire year or almost two years out completely? So I don't think, as much as it would suck to be a junior in high school and miss out on junior and senior year, I don't think the development stuff, skills are not as gonna be hindered as much as somebody who's like- Oh, I do. So I- Compared to somebody who's like six? Yeah. Oh, I don't think so. Here's why I do. The things that you develop at six are also very important, right? You start to learn certain social cues. Most important. You learn facial expressions. Maybe more fundamental, but think about junior high and high school. You're really learning complex social interactions. This is when you learn, you're communicating with the opposite sex. You're with your groups. You understand group politics and stuff like that and they are not seeing each other's faces. That's not a big of a deal, that is. Not reading someone's facial expressions. Of course. And then those parts of the brain at some point are not as plastic. Yeah, but I would make that, that is more important for the five to seven year old than the junior higher. I mean, maybe- Of course. I mean, those are the most valuable years for your brain for a child. So you- Here's why I- They are developing those things. The point you're making right now, I would think that a five to seven year old will be affected more than a junior higher. So here's why I would say maybe not because the impact that parents have and closer family have on young children is higher than peers. When you become a, when you go into junior high or high school, the impact that your peers have on your development is much higher than your parents. So in other words, if your six year old is at home most of the time, they're gonna miss out some stuff, but they're with mom and dad. They're not wearing masks at home and stuff like that. When you're in junior high and high school, like a lot of your development comes from your peers. It's not necessarily your parents and your brothers and sisters like it was when you were a kid. So you're missing that completely because you're not around. Well, think about when you were, like when I was in eighth grade, it was like, if I didn't have friends and go out in those social, and it was just my parents all the time, it's like, that could be very damaging. Well, I mean, between the four of us, I mean, we've got all the way from high school all the way down to two years old and almost every two year gap or so between there. What do you see between your two boys who it's affected the most? Definitely my youngest. I mean, he's- Everett's how old right now? How old is Everett? Eight. Eight? Yeah, so it's mainly because of his friends' parents, like not being as comfortable with them interacting and stuff. And so again, it just, it varies, but his lack of engagement and being able to hang out with his friends has been like, it really tough. Yeah, five to seven is my theory. And it's just for that exact reason that this is the most malleable time for the brain and you're putting all that stuff together. So I think five to seven will work. We're speculating, it's just different. Of course. Like the way I would imagine it, if my six year old was having challenges, I feel like I could influence them more effectively than a kid could with a 13 year old. I mean, they're showing, they're showing depression and suicide and anxiety rates exploding among teenagers, which is, that's when shit happens anyway. That's when you start to feel that kind of stuff anyway. Yeah, they're already angst as fucks. Yeah, but you're not going to mom and dad. And mom and dad isn't making a big difference. I'll tell you what, so now my kids are back in school, right? So, and my son is 16, my daughter is about to turn 12. And now they're in school and events are starting to happen. I mean, just start wearing masks, but they're around friends. The difference in them is like, it's night and day, it's crazy, it's insane. They had the school festival for my daughter's school that they do every year where they have like the big, by the way, it's hilarious. They do like the big Ferris wheel and the rides and stuff, those things. They put them up in like an hour. I don't know how safe those things are, by the way. My holy shit, but anyway, it's like a big deal. She went with her friend. Now my daughter, last year or year and a half, it was very different. Like now all of a sudden she's with her friends and I'm seeing her develop so much faster and just, it's like, boy, was that a tough time, not being around people. So do you think junior high then, is that what you're speculating on? It's hard to say, I would say. I know it's hard to say. I don't need fucking data support. I would say junior high, I think it's probably the most formative. You think when? Junior high. Well, I'm not counting that because Ethan's now in sixth grade, which has lumped into the whole junior high thing and it's like, oh, let's grow all the way up now. It's like, we're gonna throw the kitchen sink at you in terms of everybody's ideas. And I'm just like, ah, it's just so much at once. Like he wants to like ask me a million questions a day now of all these different things. Yeah, I mean, that's gotta be just normally one of the biggest transitions for a kid, right? Elementary going to junior high or middle school. Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, elementary, you're hanging out with kids all the way from first grade to what, fifth or whatever. Oh, it's so super interesting. You make the leap to sixth, seventh all of a sudden, like it's like, you know, big kids and you're the young kid coming in. Well, think about it this way. How important was your social circle with friends when you were in third grade versus when you were in eighth grade? Yeah, but okay, to that point though, it was starting to be developed though in fifth and sixth grade. And if you miss those developmental ages, that would potentially impact. Whereas if you were somebody who went fifth, sixth, seventh, you started already develop that, oh, you missed two years. Oh, it's painful for them or it's difficult, but to get back into the swing of things probably would be easier than somebody who misses the year or two years when it first developed that. We're gonna see it, we'll know. We'll see it eventually. Oh, I know, that's why it's fun to speculate on this because I mean, I'm already seeing different things. Like I said, between my nieces and nephews and noticing all the different ages and like who's been like, I have my old, like my niece who has two younger siblings and she is six years old. And she looks like she was hurt the most, but she's also the oldest in the group of kids with three kids. The two that were younger, they're learning at home from the oldest ones. So they didn't really feel like, I didn't feel like they really dropped off that much where she, I felt like dropped off a lot. Dude, you wanna know what's weird. So here's what's trippy is that like my son went to go hang out with his friends and they were at Santana Row, which is outdoor. So this is an outdoor kind of mall area. And then after that, they walked to a couple stores and stuff. Anyway, when I went to pick them up, they weren't even in an area that was required to be masked but they were outside and all the kids had their masks on. So when I picked up my son, I was like, why'd you guys have your your mask on when you guys were hanging out over here or whatever? And he's like, well, it's not a big deal. It's like, it's kind of more comfortable. I'm like, holy shit. More comfortable? You know why? Because I think they feel anxious taking them off around each other because they're never, they're always covering. So think about like this much of your face. Well, everybody else's pressure. Well, not just that. How much of your, this whole part of your face, how much of that communicates what you feel and your emotions and stuff. So now you're covered. It's like wearing sunglasses. You ever see people wear sunglasses to hide their emotions? Do you think then that, you know, at least the upside of that is they'll be better at poker? Yeah. Or worse, you can't read the guy's face at all. But your kids are like really good at poker. List of all the things that fucked you up. But hey, you might be better at poker. Dan Bilzerian's out there. Or worse, you're like, what's he doing with his face over? That's a smile. Oh, I don't know what that, I've never seen one of those before, except for movies. That's interesting that they would opt to do that. But that does make sense, especially at that age too, when your kid is shy, it does. Because I explained to him, I'm like, do you know how important it is to see each other's, and he doesn't know, it's not a big deal, who cares, you know, whatever. Because to him it's like, Whatever. Yes, but I see it. I'm like, no dude, you need to be able to see each other's faces and read each other's. That part of your brain. Well, dude, I'll tell you what, working with these kids in high school and just in the sports realm, it's been so interesting to kind of see the dynamic. It's like, these kids are so nice. It's just like, where's your anger button? Where is that hatred inside you? Nobody has it, dude. You try and find it, because football's a sport, you need it. It's an outlet, it's like you need to get some angst, you need some anger. I didn't mean to hit you so hard. Like, I don't know coach. Hey, you guys are winning? I saw you won again. We won, yeah, we're two and oh. Two and oh, I mean, we missed our first few games because of like stuff, but yeah, so we won this weekend, but it seriously has been just like anxiety sitting for me, because like we're so thin, personnel-wise, we have like, I have like sophomores in there, you know, we just have like, we're patching people together, trying to put the winning strategy together, but it's like, nobody really, you know, stands completely out on their own, but like everybody's working together so hard and like fighting, but and these kids like aren't used to being playing so much injured. I'm like, dude, you play injured every game. Like that's what football is. Yeah. You know, like this kid comes over, he's like, I'm bleeding coach. I'm like, oh, do we need to have the talk? You know, do we need to, it's just like one of those things, dude, they're just unfamiliar with. Did you play a game of football and not hurt something? I feel like that's impossible. It's just like boxing or it's like, it's anything where you have combat, like physical combat with like, and you're literally like assaulting each other, like it's, you're gonna be hurt. Because they've played two games, they've won together. Obviously it sounds like they're playing well together. Are they starting to gel and become like a team? Oh yeah. No, that's literally the thing that's been keeping everything working is just that they all have this belief system that is now they're all bought in. And so that just sort of clicked after that first game was like definitive of, well, we can do this. Like it's, they have the winning mentality, but it's just like, I mean, there's lots of like very new green players out there that have no, like I'm seriously like, they'll get like some bumper bruise and then like you can't find them. And you're like, where so and so you're trying to like grab, I grabbed the player and just threw him out in the field like you're out there. You know, like they're always just trying to like, like figure out like where to hide. Where is everybody? You know, everybody's looking for somebody every play. Have you had to deal with like social media? Do you have to like regulate like with kids like actually like walking over to their phone and actually checking their shit? Oh, I'm not. Whereas you guys have rules like no. Nobody, nobody brings any of that at practice, but like they do have it for like displaying like, you know, they'll post pictures or video clips to kind of like advertise the team, which is a new thing, which I get it. They as in the players or they as in the school? The players, you know, and so there's, I think there is a school Instagram or something of the football team, but. I haven't been on it. I don't even follow them. Hey, you were telling me story about how you put on, either you put on pads or when you started going like letting them hit you. So Justin comes in, I'm working out. And he's like, he's strutting. You know, he's walking in like, you know, sometimes Justin gets that walk and like, what happened dude? Like they don't even know? Yeah, exactly. Who's that they don't even know? And he's like, I was, I was letting the kids come at me the other day. He's like, it felt good to see what time it is. Like what dude? Toughest kid on the team, you know. He's walked around like a boss and like, I was low on the scout defense. I kind of managed that to give our offense a look. And we didn't have like an end. And so I was like, whatever, I'll just like fill in, you know. And he's like our stud tackle. And so he's just like coming down to block me. And I'm just like, hey, I'm going to beat you on this play. And he's just like, I'm going to get you. And so I pulled one of my old like swim moves real fast and then like threw them on the ground. And I was like, flexing on the other kids. I'm 41 years old, dude. Where are you at? Taunting and shit. Yeah, where are you dude? You're at the peak of your physical prowess. Oh my God. So that would feel good. But then I was doing this drill with the running backs. And I forgot I didn't have a helmet on. And I went to come up and give him a look. And he kept going. And we headbutt, he got right on my chin. And I had this like serious well on my face for a couple of days. Look at that, her open. Yeah. Were you guys, now the two wins, were you supposed to win these? Or was this a big, big win? What would you say? I mean, I honestly, I'm like, we won. Like I didn't think a whole lot about. Well, what was the record last year before you got there? Do you know? I mean, we won a few games. I think it was like, I think it was like a 50, 500. 500 kind of season. But yeah, there weren't, there wasn't a lot of expectations. We actually moved down in divisions. So our real test is like next week, because we get into league, but these were, these were tough teams. They're a lot tougher than they were on film. Oh, I thought this was, was with league. I thought you were two in our league. This isn't league yet. This is still pre-season. So that was our last pre-season game. Hey, so when you, when you did that tackle drill with the kids, were they different afterwards? Cause I, I've had experiences like that with like, you know, judo coaches or jiu-jitsu coaches, where I actually had a teacher, I had a math teacher. I don't know if I told you guys this story once. I used to cut class all the time and I would show up and take the test and I'd get a C. I'd always get 70% or 70, whatever. And I was happy with that. Like, whatever, I don't give a shit. Yeah. You know, typical entrepreneur. I'll pass. And he, this teacher was, he was one of the wrestling coaches, kind of a big guy. And him and I would talk about working out sometimes. And he was kind of cool. And he would tell me like, Sal, you got to show up to class, dude. And I'd be like, why? I get, you know, I'm passing your class. So in the whole front of the class, he called me out. And he goes, I tell you what, Sal. He goes, if you can come up here and beat me in arm wrestling, I'll never ask you to class again. You'll just have to come take the test. But if I beat you, you have to give me your word that you'll show up every day. And I'm like, pfft. I'll crush this old man. And I'd never lost at this point in arm wrestling. I think I was like a junior in high school. So in front of the whole class, he beat me. And I had to show up. But the respect that I had for this guy. Whole man strength. Afterwards, you know, I was like, all right. No, that's totally what it is. Like if I would have not done that, that would have been bad. I would have lost that credibility. You know, there's something there. Like you have to kind of earn that. And as much as you want to just talk about the good old days or whatever, like, you know, they want to know you're still relevant. Have you guys ever seen that? So like a leadership role, dude. I mean, you got to be able to show them. I remember back when we all, I mean, we all worked for the same company. You remember when you'd work for a manager that would be managing a staff and then writing people up or you're getting pissed off at them because they didn't write a certain amount of revenue? It's like, I've never even seen you do that. Like, yeah. I mean, if you, if you don't do that, then I feel like you don't get that as the same level of respect than if they see that you can do their job as good as they can or better. You guys ever watched that video? It was like this kind of old squat, kind of slightly overweight boxing coach and he puts on gloves and he goes toe to toe with, I guess, one of these amateur boxers and like, like. Lights him up. Yes. And this old guy, like you looked at it, you look at him, you've never. I think you shared that with us. Oh my God. It's hilarious. Cause he put a weapon on that kid. Did you guys see that, Stephie Cohen and. Oh yeah, what happened? She, hers went to a draw. And then what's his name? The other, the big. Yeah. Bjorn. Yeah. He want, he want his. I didn't watch them. I just saw clips, highlights and the. Celebrity boxing. Shredded. Yeah. He looks crazy. Did you see the difference? He's still massive. The mountain. Did you see those? Oh man. His, I think it was like a hundred pounds. Right. It's like, he lost a ton of weight. Insane. So the celebrity boxing thing or. This is the future. It's crazy. I mean, look at, Stephie Cohen has like a million followers now. Right. So you get a person who's got a million followers fighting somebody who else has got a million. I don't know what the, what the going number is for like a lot of paper views. What makes it like really profitable or not. But I imagine if you got two people that have different audiences, each with a million people, the chances of you getting at least 50,000 buys has got to be pretty high. Right. And do the math. I mean, rivalries are always fun. Like, at what point do you think it's going to be like CEOs? Well, it's getting sad. Did you see the news that came out on Riddick Bo? No, what? Oh yeah. So because it's getting so popular. And this is where it's, this is what I'm curious about, right? Cause we talked about this with Evander Holyfield, right? Cause that was a dud that everybody. Well, and take a look, maybe Doug, you can, you can look this up so they can see like a picture of Riddick Bo wants to fight again. And how old is he? He's like 58 or 59. That's a name I haven't heard. And he looks terrible. Like he doesn't even look like he's exercised in probably two decades. He's so out of shape. So this is what I think is going to be, is kind of scary is anybody and everybody who had a name before is going to start coming out of retirement cause they're going to feel like shit. Even my old ass could, could hang with this young kid who thinks he's tough. People need to understand there he is. No, but look for it. Did you look up Riddick Bo wants to fight again? Oh, well he's a, he's a big boy in that picture right there too. Dude, get George Foreman out again. Well, Foreman became, he became champion of 40 held. Was he 44? 42. Yeah, you got to be, just in the news. People need to realize that somebody who boxed professionally and then who's 58, it's not like a normal 58 year old that you're a lot older because of the damage that you've gone through. Have you guys seen the life expectancy of these athletes? It's not very good. Oh, yes. Cause of the beat downs that they go. Well, football is what? Football is light in here. Football is super low. Insane, right? 10 years after. Hey, speaking of celebrities, earlier I mentioned Elon Musk, did you see what got approved on the new Tesla that they're going to start pursuing? No. Okay. This single-handedly could be the coolest thing ever put on a car. Ever. The coolest thing ever. Laser beam windshield wipers. I swear to God. What the hell? It's probably sounds a lot cooler than what it really is. What is a beam? No, it's literally what it is. Literally, it will pick up if there's debris or water on your windshield and lasers come out and evaporate it or blast it off. It starts with lasers. Of your fucking windshield. What? Yes, dude. How sick would that be? You're driving. Okay, wait a sec. So it's before the rain hits the wind? I don't understand. No, so the sensors on the windshield. Okay. So if it picks up water or debris, the laser will evaporate it off or get rid of it on your windshield. Oh, off the windshield. Yes. Okay, so there's no way it works like that under rain conditions, right? That's exactly what it's supposed to do. So you're telling me that it's be constantly raining and these lasers are just- Heating up your windshield and shit coming off? Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I wanna see a video of this. Yeah, no, I'm like, I have to picture this because it doesn't make any sense. Now, here's what I was thinking. Let's say like a bird or something like that. Can you turn them out like you could with the windshield wash? Have you ever done that to people and you squirt them? Put it in the car in front of you. Have you guys never done that? This can't, that can't be. I'm still stuck on this thing. The laser rooms. Yeah, pull it up. I'm still stuck on the idea that this thing is gonna basically, so would you not need windshield wipers anymore? That is the windshield wiper. It's lasers. I mean, this is from what I've read in this article. Tell me it's not the coolest thing you've ever done in life. I mean, if that is true, then it's, yeah, it's like out of a comic book. I would buy one just for that. I want lasers on my car. I mean, yes. My whole life. The answer is yes. Have you heard of this, Doug? I have not. No. My whole life, I want a laser on my car. Hey, what'd you think about the new Escalade that we wrote in last week? Well, what do you mean? The new Escalade, the Cadillac Escalade. Oh yeah, very nice. Yeah, those things, the brand new Escalade is crazy how nice it is. Oh yeah, it is. The whole front dash is like all TV monitor. See, there it is. Tesla patents, new wipers. So this is on a video. Let's see if we can fast forward. Anyway, maybe Doug can pull up a picture. No, I want to see this. I want to see this. Lasers clean the windshield, bro. That's crazy to me. Well, it better not be like when they tried to say shit. All I see, OK. I was shooting lasers. I will not damage eyes. Oh yeah, that's true. I wonder, I didn't think of that if it's a hits you in the eye or something. Yeah, that does. I wonder if it's going to like assist the wipers. No, they are the windshield wipers. Or there's no windshield wipers and it's just lasers. That's what I'd read in the article. Individually just zap whatever's coming at it. Dude, I swear to God, I would. Adam's not buying this. I'm not, I just saw, I mean, that's two out there. You're the science skeptic. Well, we'll just think of like, I'm trying to picture like a storming rain. Like these lasers are getting every raindrop before it hits your windshield? Yeah, not. So the worst, no, no. Once it hits your windshield, blast it off. Either one sounds crazy to me. No, no, lasers are so precise and not only precise, but very fast, obviously they're lasers. So if it's wet, it's just going to do this and heat them up and evaporate them. So theoretically it should be better than regular windshield wipers. Did. Yeah, that's right. I need to see a video of this. Speaking of tech, you guys want to hear something insane? So this was just released. So Israel, right, they have an AI sniper weapon that they just revealed that they use. So there was an Iranian nuclear scientist. So you know how they're always trying to prevent Iran from developing nuclear capabilities, right? Because, you know, they've said oftentimes they want to wipe Israel off the face, whatever. So there's this like thing, right? So they assassinated any Iranian nuclear scientist with this AI sniper. So it's a sniper that's controlled by AI. You want to get this? How far the rifle was from this person? How far? Over a thousand miles. A thousand miles? Over a thousand miles. Shot a bullet. I didn't even know we had a bullet that could travel that far. I didn't either. What? Doesn't that sound like a real gun? I don't know. Isn't that crazy? Wow. Because that's a lot. I want to make sure I got that right. That sounds pretty impressive. I mean, it's, it's... A thousand yards would be crazy, Sal. Yeah, it would. A thousand yards because a thousand miles is like... Let me make sure I'm all right. It's like shooting down Florida. No, no, no, no, listen. Oh, wait a minute. Maybe the... A thousand yards. No, well, no. Flat earthers like it. Hold on a second. The rifle was operated from a thousand miles away. That's what happened. So somebody a thousand miles away operated the sniper rifle. Oh, okay. Still. Still crazy. Not nearly as crazy as what I thought. Yeah, right? No. Give me a location that's a thousand miles from here. Think about that for a second. That's so cool. Shot a bullet from space. That's like states over. Like, that's how far... Probably up to Washington state or something like that. My bad. They're still crazy. Just not as crazy as I thought it was. They're pretty sorry about that. Is it like a sniper? Sniper. Sniper, man. Sniper. Is it a sniper? Sniper, no swiping. It's a sniper with a knife. I got a sniper. Like an AI person? Or is it like a drone? No, it's like a rifle that's operated with AI capabilities. So it's a computer gun, basically. Oh, but a person is actually firing. AI in the bullet, too. It's just using the data to give you a... Yeah, like how does this guy... It's just guided from the actual gun? The rifle itself is... It aims with AI. Yeah. So you set the target, it aims fire. So that's my point. So is that mean that somebody else is pulling the trigger? Actually pulling the trigger? For far away, so it's remote. So they were a thousand miles away. Okay, so back to my original question. Is it somebody... Is it AI? Is it a machine holding the gun? Is it just a gun laying on the ground? Is it a drone flying? Did you read the article? According to the article, it's a machine. Yeah, it's a fucking gun. Read the first half of the article. Did you hear worse than the Facebook fact check? No. I swear to God. No, it's a... I'm just trying to picture this thing right now. Yeah, I don't know. It's not as cool as a laser, though, huh? I mean, like I said, it's... Both these things that you brought today are over the top, crazy, that I want to see. I want to see these things. Does it make sense? Yeah. I thought it was cool. It sounds like a theory article. Well, speaking of cool stuff, well, I don't know if this is cool. Kind of cool, kind of scary. So, do you guys hear that there's this technology that they're developing, and they say that they can do this, they just got money for it, that they could literally modify vegetables, like lettuce, to where you can eat the lettuce and then get an mRNA-based vaccine from the food. Did you hear about this? No, I didn't. Maybe you can look it up, Doug. So, they are literally getting... The technology exists, apparently, and they're gonna start maybe pursuing this, to where, instead of getting a shot, they can modify vegetables to produce these mRNA components that you eat, and then it gives you a vaccine. So, rather than getting a shot, you eat something and then you get vaccinated. I know. Now, people are up in arms. Sneaky. Yeah, people are up in arms, just like, oh, great, now what? They're gonna just make a bunch of vegetables and just... Oh, yeah, of course. Vaccinate everybody all the time. Yeah, wow. Yeah, that was a little crazy. Yeah. Are you looking it up right now, Doug? I'm looking for it right now. I'm looking for it right now. We're gonna have to fact-check Salton, I'm sure. Pat, I'm not even getting a fact-check. No, I actually saw that one with the vegetables. Did you see that? I'll confirm that. You know, speaking of money stuff, did you guys see... Okay, so I think it was this year, when they passed that law for college athletes now can take on money. Oh, yeah, what's it called? It was the NIL. Yeah, yeah. I believe it was this year, this last year, in the last year that they passed that. So now, college athletes can be sponsors of. Do you see our partner is Viori, their first athlete. Olivia Dune? Yeah, the gymnast, I think is what she is. Yeah, college gymnast. Yeah, really curious. She's actually the first, I guess, since that article, we brought it up on the show, I don't know how long ago. Is she the first or one of the first athletes? No, no, no, no, for Viori, she's the first. She's not one of the first athletes. Barstool is the one that jumped on it immediately. Yeah, Barstool was doing it right out the gates, I know that. So I don't know what the market looks like as far as how many people are doing that, but I imagine that's going to explode. Yeah, so explain this to me. So before college athletes were not allowed to be endorsed. Yes. Until you're professional. Yes. So Nike couldn't come and get the number one basketball player that's a sophomore and pay him a million dollars a year to plug their shoes. And the argument was it's not fair because these athletes are generating so much money for the colleges, they're getting so many views and whatever. Yeah, that's why I passed. Because they've been trying to get paid forever. The first was like they should get paid because their likeness is, I mean, selling jerseys. I mean, you have these schools that are popular for a sports program because of the athletes that go through it. I'm glad this is happening because I know the argument before was... Yeah, I think it's a good thing that the students should focus on their education. But let's be honest, if you're a super popular college athlete and you're getting a degree in business or you could be making millions of dollars in sponsorships, like if I'm their parent, I'm like, yeah, your business degree is not nearly as valuable as this. I think this is smart. Well, a lot of times the athletes don't really move on into the next level and do well either. That's true. It's like their moment in the sun. So yeah, I don't know. I've been kind of back and forth with it because it is like you get a, you do get a free education at a really good college if you get an awesome scholarship to them. So that is something. It's like you can't just downplay that completely, but I do get the fact that there is lots of money to be made off their jerseys and likenesses. I was gonna tell you guys, Viori is making such big waves. I think this is my own personal opinion, but now these other big brands are moving into the athleisure wear for men market. So Skechers, and I'm noticing all these brands now are starting to put forth kind of athleisure wear clothing for men because Viori has shown that this market exists. Oh yeah, no, it wasn't a really, I mean just a decade ago, it wasn't really a market. Yeah, they created it. It wasn't at all. No, and you can make the argument that Lulu was one of the first women's. Yeah, but they catered to women, right? Yeah, but even then, athleisure wear wasn't even a thing. Like no one said athleisure wear just 15 years ago. No, back when we were growing up, if you wore sweats, you look like a bum. Yeah. I mean, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, you didn't wear sweats going out. Or there was like this. Unless you're rocky, right? Chasing chickens around. Yeah, let me tell you about Rocky. What a great movie. Best love story of all time. You interrupted me and I wanted to ask Justin something. We were just talking about it. I was going to ask you something related to that and then you chimed in and took me to the- About that college athletes? Yeah, we had something. Oh, I was going to ask you guys, what do you think about? Because when you're under 18, that money isn't, I mean, that's mom and dad's money still. So I wonder if that's going to cost problems with, imagine you have like- Well, that's not a bad point. Yeah, you have parents who are- Take the child actors. Yeah, their parents just can't take that for granted. Yeah, so I imagine you're going to see some stuff like that pop up that's going to be an issue where you have these parents that are like, nah, he's still living under my roof and he's 16, so that's coming to dad. Dad takes control of that. Now, if this happened to me- Which is salivating lawyers ready to go. Totally. And trying to, what do they call it, emancipate themselves from their parents? Now, if this was me, I would be doing it like this. I'd be like, all right son, here's a deal. You're going to pay me back first for this college that I'm paying for. And then after that, that's your money. I think that's fair, don't you? Yeah. Don't you think that's fair? Totally. I mean, how do you manage that as a mom and dad? I mean, you've got a kid, let's say he's a sophomore in college and he gets this crazy ass payout like that. You're still taking the trash out. Yeah, he's still living at your house. You're paying for like the $24,000 a year. My house, I was making three million. You're taking the trash out. I'm buying my own house, dad. Yeah. What am I going to do now? No, that's a very, very important point. Yeah, I just foresee a lot of issues around. I mean, we saw what happened with Britney Spears, right? That took forever for her to get her own money back. Yeah, but I think she's proving that why her parents kept the money. She's a little crazy, isn't she? The first thing she did is like... Is that good crazy? Huh? Good crazy. Your fantasies. You have a lot of fantasies about her, don't you? That's hilarious. Hey, speaking of kids and setting them up, I was talking to a friend of mine about, what's that company? We have no affiliation, but there's multiple companies. Stockpile, that's the one that you and I, yeah. I can't think of a better thing to do with your kids. So basically, this company, these are the companies that do this, where you can buy fractions of shares or shares as a gift for other people. So before, if I wanted to buy Amazon for somebody, I'd have to pay one share, it would be like $1,800 or whatever. Now you can buy $20 worth of Amazon. You can make it as a gift. And I've already done this with Aurelius. When he was born and when he got baptized, for example, I said to my family, if you want to get him anything, here's the five companies that you can invest in. And to figure, your kid starts this when they're a baby, all the way till they're 18 and for every birthday, people are buying some stock. What, I can't think of a better thing to do. I am having a bit of a challenge with it. The family are the biggest pain in the ass because they're just like, they everybody wants to- They get all bored with it or something. Yeah, well, all your, and you'll see, they all want to buy them toys. They want to be the aunt and the uncle, the grandparent, whatever that brings the cool toy. They don't want to say, oh, you got stock. That's what I got you. So that's what I'm dealing with. We have this, Katrina has a massive family. I have a pretty good-sized family. So I'm like, dude, my son should be rich already by his two birthdays, Christmas and stuff like that. No, I'm not like that at all. I literally think I have, I've got like, I'd say four or five family members, which that's cool. At least somebody's contributing and helping. Yeah, it's better than nothing, but it adds up. Right, but I mean, he should have been set by now. Instead, I have a bunch of fucking toys I throw away every six months. Well dude, so this is what I used to do. Donate. Yeah, sorry. This is what I used to do, right? Is that because you come home from Christmas, you know this now, and your car's full of just toys. And your kid can't even play with them all. It's just too much. So what I used to do is I would see which ones they like, which is usually two of them, and then the rest I'd return. And I'd take that money and I'd put it in their bank account. Well now what I'll do is I'll find, you wanna buy him a toy, that's cool. I'll return it, I'll get the money, and then I'll buy the shares for my kid. Because the kid don't care. They get the two toys, the rest of them are just piled up. Katrina and I rewrapped them for the next birthday. That's what we did. So we just go in the room and clean and take them out. There's so many toys and stuff like that. So we hit them in the spare room and I'm like, you know what, he hasn't seen this. Like it's been like seven months. Just wrap them. We'll give it to him for Christmas now. Damn. So. Come on, man. Yeah, it's very good. I don't think I bought, I don't think I got Max anything for one or his first Christmas. I don't think I got him anything like that. He's just now the age where he even realizes he's opening something and getting something. So this year will be like the first year I actually get something. Dude, when I was a kid, I remember my dad told us this when we got older. He goes, I was so sick and tired of you guys having so much crap that one day we used to have a plate, but there was one room dedicated to like toys and shit. My dad went in there one day with a garbage bag when we weren't home and filled up two garbage bags and threw them away. We never noticed. We never noticed. When we got older, he told us about this. I'm like, oh my God. So I do this to my kids. We do that to them all the time. Yeah. I did that to my daughter. And what I do is I'll put a bunch of stuff on a garbage bag. I'll take the garbage bag. Yeah, you can take it down the street. Well, first what I do is I put it. You'll hide it for like two weeks. Yeah, they don't ask anything then you know. Never, they never notice anything. I've already done that twice now. And I just throw shit away. Where's my Megatron? Hey, speaking of kids, I meant to ask to bring this up in one of the last podcasts. Because I know, do both your kids play Roblox or just yours? Yeah, my daughter does. She does too? So they got strip clubs on there now. God damn it. Are you serious? Yep. Like what? Like little cartoon characters? So they had like concerts and everything inside there. I mean they had that royal blood. They had some other like cool bands in there. But I had no idea that they're trying to get all... Wait a minute. Why? Is this for kids? Well, this is what happens when you open it up for... Because it is, and you guys know this better than I do, they can create their own levels and rooms and write their own code, right? Is that what's so kind of cool about it that everybody thinks it's so awesome? Who the hell's making strip clubs? They make their own games inside the game. Some little dysfunctional kid, bro. No, it's not some 40-something-year-old pretend. Yeah, it's some freaking Pito in there. Or that, you know what I'm saying? Or it's like a teenage. To me, I see most likely teenage boys thinking it's funny to do shit like that and they can write code now or do whatever. What the hell, look at that. Doug, pull it up there for us. Like in Minecraft, where you get like one huge... I already have a history in this history. Hey, Doug, how come when you pulled it up and said you had credit? Strip clubs, roadblocks. Why don't you pop up right away, Doug? Welcome back, Doug, Dougie. Yeah, welcome back. And since... Would you like... You might also like this. You have a $500 credit. Would you... Would you like to complete your lap dance that you didn't finish? Well, I pretty much scared the shit out of my daughter with that game. I sat down with her and... I mean, how do you monitor that? Well, you try... I mean, they're little boxy characters, so I can't imagine that being very provocative. Well, I mean... So, wow, look at that appearing on kid-friendly roadblocks. What the hell? I'm sure they regulate... I hope they regulate that. It's probably such a big... I mean, how... Exactly, it's so big. I'm constantly creating more and more. What the hell? Makes me want to beat someone up. That's why I go every now and then I'll play whatever game that they're really into. That's why I want to like... Because I'm just... Oh, I'm curious. Just like, I'm helping my kids. Like, I'm beating you. You guys suck at this. Yeah, no, so I scared the shit out of my daughter because I sat her down. And I said, you know that there's weirdos on here pretending to be kids? I know, buh-bah, I know. I said, no, no, you don't understand. They will be friends with you for years. Oh, yeah. They will kidnap you. I'll scare the fuck out of them. I said, they will be friends with you for years. You think that you know them? Oh, I've been playing with this person for years. Kini Meow Meow 14 right here. And I'm like, it's a 40-year-old with hairy shoulders behind his computer just waiting. And she's like, what? Yeah, I scared the shit out of her. The hairy shoulders, that's what it is. I mean, yeah. Good dads. You want them worried. Anyway, speaking of gross stuff, what's up, what's this article? I read this article, Justin, you brought this up too. Did you hear about the sea snakes trying to bang divers? Yes. Yeah. So apparently this has been a thing. Lots of divers have noticed recently behavior. I think it's because they've found themselves amongst, like, you know, when animals have their mating season. So I guess they're getting extra aggressive and like wrapping themselves around these divers and nibbling on them and, you know, and then biting them and they're venomous and everything. So God, you know what's funny? OK, so of course, sea snakes would mate that way. But for whatever reason, I thought the sea snake was trying to penetrate like penetrated. That's why I thought it meant to. That's why I thought it meant to. But why would they have sex that way? They wouldn't do it that way. What's the title of somebody who writes articles for a magazine or for a newspaper? What's their title? Author. Is it just they're not just a writer? Author, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I think so. Yeah. A columnist or something. I know I just think of like, imagine like you get that, right? As you're the editor comes in and be like, this is what you're reporting on today. Hey, we want you to report on the sea snakes. Yeah, I feel like that's a form of punishment, right? That you get some article like this that you have to write about, right? Someone doesn't actually go and seek this information out. And they're venomous, too. Yeah, dude, it's a problem. So what do you do? You let them mate with you? Like, hey, you just got to sit there until they're done. I don't know. This is in Australia. Of course, it's Australia, man. They got all kinds of crazy. Dude, they have the craziest animals down there. That's like spiders and big-ass spiders. What is the latest that's going on over there right now? I brought up the camps last time. I don't know, but I had people messaging me and let me know they're OK. So that was good. So I have a 50-50 split. I've got some people that are freaking out over there. Like, it's crazy over here. Yeah, it's crazy. We're fighting back and we're doing all that. This is unbelievable. Then I have people being like, you know, it's not bad. I think it depends on where you live there, too. Like the different states, I think, are more aggressive than the other ones. But yeah, it varies. Like, there's some people that are like, man, this is the apocalypse down here. Yeah, you know. Yeah, it is interesting. You know, they did, there was a large study done on mask mandates to see if they actually had an impact. So here's what's interesting. I actually had this conversation. Who was it that I talked to? I talked to somebody who understands research really well and they explained this to me. So masks definitely can help prevent the spread of viruses. It's not 100%, it's not even 50%, but it does have an impact. However, when you look at real world studies, and they're now coming out from places that have mask mandates versus those that don't, they don't see a difference. And so I asked this, my friend, I said, how is this possible? Because I'm looking at studies where they actually test masks to see how much virus they prevent from coming out, whatever, and it looks like there's a 10% or 20% reduction, you should be able to see that in the data. And he said, and I thought this was brilliant, what they don't account for is user error and how people use the mask. So if masks are used perfectly, then they help. But who the hell uses one perfectly? It's funny because I have a family member that's a nurse, and she told me, nobody wears a mask properly. Like the way you're supposed to touch it and use it once and this and that, she's like, people reuse it all the time, they take it off, they touch their face all the time. This was Courtney's point since day one because she got trained how to properly use an N95 mask and you're not supposed to be even able to smell something. And they spray you with all these things and then they'll get pepper spray and stuff to make sure that- To test it? Yeah, to test out. If you don't get it, your eyes are gonna water and all this like, so if you don't get it right, and half the time they don't get it right. So it's just like, it's on- And that's the N95 one, I'm gonna stop there, right? Well, no, it's again, you have to, no, no, this is good because we do this- We see this in health studies too, right? Well, they'll say artificial sweeteners will cause weight loss. Why? Because if you cut your sugar out of your diet and replace it with sucralose, you're cutting your calories, you should lose weight. In the real world, it doesn't work that way. Studies show nobody loses weight. Why? Because what we don't account for is human behavior. People end up eating more food anyway, so it just doesn't work. This is true for lockdowns too. So they also showed that when they compared states with really strict lockdowns versus ones that didn't, it didn't really have that big of an impact. Well, it's so hard to compare those things because you gotta think too, there's probably a portion of people that just because of the mandate are also gonna revolt and not follow orders either. So- Well, it's not just that. When you do something like an area, like try and use that as a way to base your argument, that's really tough. Well, here's what it was, because again, I've read articles on this. Yes, if people stay away from each other, you definitely are gonna spread less viruses. The problem is that we don't consider that if there are no lockdown mandates, but people are aware that, oh, there's a spike, people naturally avoid crowded areas and change their behaviors. And so they find that because of those natural, those tendencies that people have, that it actually kind of balances out. So this is all the stuff that we don't consider, right? We just look at data- That's the behavioral part of all this. Yeah, and we say, just do this, it'll work, but we never consider like, well, how are people gonna behave? How are they gonna act? Are they gonna do it right? Those are all things that need to be looked at, which, very interesting. I saw someone say that the Taliban was offering their assistance in hotels or in hospitals. What? Okay, was that satire? I thought it was satire too, but yeah. I thought it was stupid, it seemed like a real article. Where? In Afghanistan? It said, let's see if Duncan pulled up, Taliban offers assistance in hospitals. We have COVID cure, we cut off your head. Yeah. And then you're gonna have COVID. Yeah, I've seen that making its rounds right now. What the hell? That's crazy. That's ridiculous. Hey, I'm gonna change subject to something really cool. Did you see the, you guys never checked, do you? Do you guys ever check your box from ButcherBox so you can add like the specials? No, no, no. I've been ordering the same thing over, no, I can't help it. I show up, I go to a restaurant, I like what I eat, I stick with it. No, no, no, you don't have to change what you have. You could, there's add-ons, so every month they'll have specials for add-ons, so you can add something and it doesn't change your box. Okay. Right now they have, and I don't know if it's gonna be on when this podcast airs, so you can go check, there's a six plus pound beef brisket already prepared. What? That you can, and it's seasoned and prepared, and it's supposed to be really good, and you can add it to your box, and it's already cooked, so all you have to do is warm it up, put it in the oven, warm it up, and boom, you have brisket. Oh, I've been, Doug, have you- Oh, wow, I've been meaning to do it on the trigger. I was gonna say, have you, let's not forget, you have one now too. Yeah. I feel I have yet to do like a 12, 24 hour smoke on like brisket yet, I haven't done that yet. Have you done that yet? Yeah, it wasn't with butcher box, because butcher box doesn't sell the actual brisket, but I did buy a grass-fed brisket, probably two, three years ago, and used my old Traeger. How long'd you smoke for? I think 12 hours. Did it come out good? It came out good, unfortunately, that particular piece of meat is, was pretty low fat, and you need a bit of fat with a brisket, I feel, especially if you're strong. We've tried to make brisket several times, where you'd slow cook it in the oven, and one time it came out good. Yeah, it's tricky. It's really hard, it's not easy at all. And then whenever, ever since we went to Texas and had brisket there, ruined brisket for me. Absolutely. Because everything else is terrible. It's an art out there. They're not using grass-fed though out there. Oh, absolutely not. Yeah, you see the layer. They're feeding them beer and corn. Yeah, you see the fat on them suckers, it's so good. Hell of good. I would try that though, so I'll definitely jump on that. But it's pre-prepared, so I would imagine they make it pretty good. Is it just, you know, Doug, if that's just like a short time so I need to know what time I need to get on that, right? Yeah, I think typically their special offers are limited, so you better get over there. All right, hey, one more thing, I wanna tell you some crazy good news. This is really exciting for my family. Oh, I like when you bring good news. Yes, this is very good. Yeah, let's lighten it up. I have a nephew who's got severe food allergies, like really bad. He's had anaphylactic shock a couple times, and my sister, she's God bless her. She's always, she's so on top of it, but it's so hard because there's several foods that do this to him, and it's been really scary, and a couple times she's had to hit him with the EpiPen because he goes limp in the whole deal, right? Well, anyway, he's now, let's see, how old is he? 11 or 10, 11, and she's been doing, because this is a new strategy now, where you desensitize your child's immune system to whatever they're allergic to, with microscopic doses, and you gradually increase them, he's been doing this for a while, and this is a relatively new thing, because in the past, they were like, stay away from peanuts or whatever. Now it's like- Now they tell you to give him like a little bit of peanut butter. Well, he had to start like super, super small, right? So she took him there to the doctor to do full-on tests. Okay, and now this is scary, because he's at the hospital, they're ready, with staff, because he's had, where he's almost died before, my sister was like texting us, super worried, because if something goes wrong, even with all the medication, and all the stuff- I'm having anxiety, she must feel like- He could still die, like he could have it so bad, no matter what they do. Oh my God. So they had everything ready, hospital ready to go, he's sitting there, and she did this whole photo shoot. Gives me the chills, because I looked at the photos, I was, I brought me to tears, and you can see he's super nervous, he's like biting his nails, crossing his legs, he's really scared, and they gave him his first little dose of like peanuts, and they waited, waited, waited, nothing, then they gave him a little more, nothing, then they gave him a scoop of, like an actual scoop of peanut butter, his peanut allergy's gone. Wow. Gone. He went right afterwards- How long to progress- You know, that's a good question I should ask her, but I think it took a couple of years. Oh wow, that long. A long time. Afterwards, I mean, my sister was in tears, they were so excited, they went right to the store, bought Reese's Pieces cups, and bought all the foods that he's so scared of, and he's eating them, and he's totally fine now. I mean, it was such a- What a trip. Such an incredible story, because it was such a big deal for her, so. Wow. Wow, that's cool. Hey, real quick, I hope you're enjoying the podcast. Look, if you have kids, and you listen to the show, you're probably very interested in your child's health. The problem is baby food out there is crap. Most of it's garbage. Except for one company, Serenity Kids. They make some of the best, healthiest baby food you'll find anywhere, like grass-fed meats, they add bone broth, they have grain-free puffs. My kid loves the grain-free puffs. He actually eats them up like crazy. And again, they're healthy, healthy snacks. That's the best part about this company. Go check them out, and get 20% off by using the following code, or the following URL. It's myserenitykids.com. My, M-Y-S-E-R-E-N-I-T-Y kids.com. So myserenitykids.com, use the code M-P-2-0. So that's M-P-20 for that discount. All right, enjoy the rest of the show. First question is from Hammer Health, who is asking how to slowly increase your metabolism by increasing calories. Oh yeah, that's the reverse, what do they call that, reverse dieting. So here's what's interesting, and I wanna say this before I get into the point that I'm gonna make, right? Because we talk all the time about boosting your metabolism through building muscle. And then oftentimes, I'll get people who'll retort and say, oh, studies show that a pound of muscle only burns this many calories, so it's not as big of an effect as you think. Here's the interesting thing about metabolism. You have, imagine this, think of it this way. You have a range of calories that you can burn with the current lean body mass that you have, right? So this is just for illustrative sense here. Let's say you have 150 pounds of lean body mass. Your potential calorie burn, metabolism-wise, could be between 2,000 to 3,000 calories, for example, or 2,000 to 2,500 calories with the same lean body mass. Simply eating more actually gets your body to burn more calories, so does cutting calories actually will slow your metabolism down. When you lift weights and you send the signal to build muscle, even if you don't build muscle, because you're prioritizing or at least sending the signal to build muscle and strength, you will move more towards the upper limit of what that calorie burn is. So step number one by boosting your metabolism isn't just to increase your calories, but it's to send a muscle-building, strength-building signal. And you don't have to add a lot of muscle to do this. I mean, you can add a pound of muscle or two pounds of muscle, but make a big difference. So step number one, if you do this, you have to follow a good workout that's really working and you're seeing strength increases. Now, most people that ask this question are already working out. So the advice I like to give to someone like this is actually to switch your programming up when you decide to do this. I've had a lot of success with clients because you're normally training them or they've trained before, or this person asks this question, I'm guessing is probably already lifting. So instead of just, okay, you're following the same routine or your favorite program or your favorite workout. And then now you go, oh, I heard on Mind Pump I wanna build my metabolism. So I'm gonna start increasing my calories and you just increase your calories. And that's it. And then hopefully you just put on lean body mass. I also, at that same time, want to shift my focus on my training. And that can look a lot of different ways. I mean, you can go to a whole different program. You can add in new exercises. You can manipulate your rep ranges. There's a lot of different ways for you to manipulate this. But I think also sending a new loud signal, I think it just protects you with any sort of extra calories that you make. It's really hard to be like, okay, well how many calories do you eat to build just muscle and no fat? Well, it's almost inevitable you're gonna put on a little bit of body fat because you're in a calorie surplus consistently. So well, how do I ensure that most of it goes to building muscle? Oh, one of the ways I can do that is send a new loud signal to my body that I need to adapt to this new movement or this different way of training. I think it's a smart strategy and it's, I always do that. Anytime I'm switching gears on a cut or a bulk, I also like to switch gears on my program. Now, do you guys like target, say, a specific macronutrient to kind of focus on more to boost those calories up? Like say more protein, like actively trying to seek more protein in your diet versus like carbohydrates or fat? I would recommend clients that the protein's the must first that we get. But I actually don't tell them they have to get, they're gonna increase their calories by say 150 to 200 calories. I don't say, oh, it has to come from protein. I say, so long as your protein targets are hit, you can use it however you want. Some days, if you feel like you want more carbohydrates or more fat, and I think there's value to going on all three directions. I agree 100% because once you hit that target, adding extra protein, it's okay. Your body will turn it into energy. Here's the problem though with adding too much protein. It's so satiating that past a certain point, if you're really starting to reverse your diet and starting to bump your calories, you'll find that, oh, I can't eat anymore because protein is so satiating. I've had female clients tell me that like, you know, I'm reverse dieting and I'm trying to get my metabolism up but I'm so stuffed. And I look at the protein intake and this is not calm, this is rare. These are for people that really pay attention. Like, well, your protein's really high. It's gonna zap your appetite, which is a good thing if you're trying to cut. But when you're trying to reverse out and trying to go up, maybe not. I would say, you know, as far as how fast to increase your calories, depends on the person. You know, 100 calories to 300 calories is probably the range, I would say. Although I've seen people go up higher than that who have a lot of lean body mass who can get away with adding 500 calories and not gaining too much protein. If you're lean and big and already muscular and you're trying to add more, I mean, you could easily go 500 plus on some. But I mean, here's the strategy, right? Follow a good strength building routine, that's number one. Slowly increase your calories, that's number two. Get good sleep, that's number three. You do those three things and you should see over time, and some people, this happens pretty quickly, you should see your metabolism really start to boost and sometimes you'll get your metabolism. I mean, I've had clients increase their metabolism by 1,000 calories. Like, they're literally burning 1,000 more calories a day just sitting there. So huge, very effective strategy. Next question is from Fredrickson855. What do you guys think about complexes when it comes to building muscle? So, now let me get this straight. I'm gonna ask you, Justin, because this is kind of like a performance thing. Now, how many exercises constitutes a complex? Like a complex, yeah, that's a good question. I would say three, but I mean, I could be wrong. Look it up, Doug. Yeah, look it up. Yeah, because then it becomes circuitry. Because then we just basically stack some of these exercises together to make the overall exercise more difficult, obviously. So it's like, you're basically super setting, but it's usually in a way where you have like one, you either have a barbell, you have dumbbells, you have kettlebells, there's different ways you can do it, but it's not like you're replacing it, you're trying to use the same equipment to pull off these moves and usually starts with like deadlifts, goes into squat, goes into an overhead press, goes into a back loaded squat. And then there's kind of creative variations from there. Yeah, I feel like this is, not feel like, the benefit of this really is about strength stamina, strength endurance. Yeah, it's a work capacity. Exactly, yeah, even better way to say it. Does this contribute to muscle building? Not directly. I don't think it directly, it's a great way to build muscle. However, if you improve your work capacity and your capacity to handle higher reps and move from exercise to exercise, could that contribute to building more muscle when you do more traditional type lifting? I'd say yes. I mean, intermittently using this as a tool, sure, I like it. For using that as your way of training most of the time, terrible idea. But if building muscle is your goal, right? Yeah, if building muscle or strength, building muscle or strength, you're going to be better off with straight sets and long rest periods and one lift. Just plain simple, all the research supports that. Does that not mean that you get some benefits from running a complex, a circuit, a superset, a triset, all these different ways of combining exercises in a routine? Yeah, there's value to it, but the more and more you keep adding to that, you start to sway over to work capacity, endurance, stamina, and that becoming the major adaptation and not building strength in muscle as the number one adaptation. Yeah, you know what's funny is that Doug's been pulling up articles on complexes and this is what I thought, that's why I wanted to just confirm. The word complex in our space has been used to replace circuit because circuit sounds like, it sounds like aerobic class. Yeah, aerobics. It doesn't sound tough, right? So what they're doing now is calling it- It works on me. Yeah. Yeah, like- Oh, complex is totally different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, cause like he pulled up an article, here's a nine exercise barbell complex, right? Sounds better than a nine exercise barbell circuit That's why I think it's crap. It's crap for the most part, intermittently using it. You short on time one day and you want to do a cool complex to get your workout in 20 minutes. Sure, do it. Otherwise, something with kettlebell outside, you know, it's just good to change it up, but yeah, it's totally a novelty. So this is like a novelty workout that you can do every occasionally and get some benefit from it, but yeah, it's not something you want to stick with. This is what CrossFit calls it all the time, right? Oh, I got this new barbell complex I'm doing that's super cool. Yeah, it's like part of their lingo. That's where it came from. Cause otherwise we would just call it shitty circuit training. That's what we called it two decades ago. They stole everything from functional trainers. Yeah, thank you. The most exercises I think you should combine for, now forget performance, stamina, work capacity. I think you could put together complexes, but they have to be programmed really well. It's rare that I see a really well-programmed combination of four or more exercises, but let's just say your goal is to build muscle. The most exercises you probably should combine or two. I think a super set, you can do that. Past that, it starts to really tap into that cardio component where it becomes very, very much about endurance. Yeah, and let's test the goals. Like yeah, it's durability and you know, that's part of the adaptation you're seeking. Like it's one of those other tools you can pull out and go for. And by the way, if you're listening and I know I just shit all over complex system, maybe that's the way you train all the time. If you're consistent with it, you love doing it. You're good at your form and technique and it's what keeps you coming back and training all the time. I'm like, okay, that's got value to it. Because you like doing it and you have fun with it, then by all means, go ahead and keep it. But if you're gonna get a question like this where you ask me straight up, is it good for building muscle or building strength compared to straight sets? No, no. Next question is from S-Powers 28. Do you choose your weight based on RPE or simply aim for whatever you lifted during your last workout? Yeah, so RPE is what, Rate of Perceived Exertion and they give it a name or whatever. I move more towards that than anything. Why? Because the way that I feel each day can change. And so if I go into the workout saying I'm gonna train at 70% of my one rep max and I feel a particular way that maybe doesn't back that up, then I'm gonna follow how I feel. The only time I like percentages based off of maxes are for specific types of strength athletes like power lifters, where I think it has more value. But I think for most people, you should go off of your perceived exertion because 10 reps with 200 pounds may feel very, very intense to you one day and another day it may feel a lot easier. I feel like this is just another example how the fitness space loves to overcomplicate things. Totally. Unless you're a strength athlete where you need to be progressing in strength like week over week. And you have a peak day. Yeah, and you have a peak and you gotta compete and stuff like that. I never measured percentages like this and took my body to the ultimate peak level the way it looked wise, fitness wise. I just think that someone hears this and they're like, oh, I gotta figure out what I need to put on the bar here and I'm not sure. I did this last week, so what should I do this week? It's like, whoa dude. How do you feel? Yeah, it's not that crazy. It's like, literally, you have a pretty good idea of what you think you could do, right? Okay, let's put that on the bar. Let me not do a set. How do you feel? Was that really fucking hard? Was that really easy? Like, where are you at? Should we cut back on some weight because your form was off a little bit? I mean, it's literally that simple. They think that they're making it easier by like sort of standardizing these things and like simplifying it. Well, they made it way more complex. Yeah, like you said, you could just literally go based off your feel but you have to do work in order to assess what that feeling is for that day. That comes with experience. Every time you go to approach weights, like your body, you understand that you have different days where you feel stronger in different days and there's multitude of factors that contribute to that. So you can't just like standardize that to everybody and be like, oh, well, this is gonna be your percentage for the day. And they've tried this with HRV even and just because the science has helped kind of guide it but it's just not perfect. The way I always teach clients is like lean towards lighter, okay? So always put on the bar a little less than what you think you could do for that set because the goal is to be two reps short of failure. And if you underestimated so much that when you're doing 10 reps and you're at rep five and you're like, oh, shit, this is way lighter. I could have put 50 more pounds on this thing. Slow the reps down. Literally just slow. Aim for the intensity you were looking for. Yes. So if you were looking for an intensity that would be struggling at eight, nine and 10 to get it done and feel like at five, six, this is way too light. I could have put 50 more pounds. Slow the tempo down. Dude, go way slower. People need to, there you go. People need to understand that. I could make 60 pounds feel like 100 pounds very easily through focus, technique, tempo and make it just as effective. So that's a great advice. Here's the other thing that I think is important to communicate to people. It's not just how you feel going into the workout but how you feel as you're working out. And I have to say this is I've had people go into a workout with a particular mentality and then ignore their body, the whole workout. Like they, oh, I'm supposed to do eight sets of squats. I feel really good. And just like the numbers and pushing through. Yeah. And then by set four, they know like, uh-oh, this is too, but they, oh no, I got to do, you know, more sets. Like you can change your mind halfway. It happens to me all the time in both directions. It's happening to me before I start a workout feeling like, oh, you know, I'm a little tight. I don't know. And then halfway through, I'm like, no, I'm feeling good. And it happens the other way too where I start to back off. Like that's the ultimate guide is how you're feeling at any given moment and pay attention to that. And that's what I mean by here's the fitness space over complicating stuff and throwing acronyms thinking that you're simplifying. It's like, dude, no, that shit matters for most of the population. And if you're somebody who really grasps this, I'm not talking to you. If you're somebody who loves to calculate all this stuff up, you track all your weights and you're all about increasing your strength and that's all you care about. But the general population, that's not their main focus. They want to lose some body fat, build a little bit of muscle, be healthy, move better and like getting caught up and hung up on stuff like this. Waste of time. Yeah, it's a waste of time for 95% of you. Next question is from Bailey Geordi. Have you tried the supplement Turquesterone? Yeah. I'm sure Salas. It sounds like coarse Salas. 1,000% Salas, dude. I hate to say it, but I called this out again. Remember, okay, how long? Okay, so you guys know Ecdisk around. Is this a turkey nut? Okay. No, no, what? Is this a turkey nut? Turkey balls, right? Is this turkey balls? Is this extracted from turkey testes? It's not from a turkey, everybody calm down. All right. You guys have heard me talk about Ecdiskterone, right? I brought it up, I don't know, how long we had the podcast, seven years ago? At least, right? So Ecdiskterone is a compound, it's actually an insect. From insects, right? It's an insect hormone, but it's also found in plants. And the first studies you'll find on Ecdiskterone, and believe me, this is connected to Turquesterone, the first studies you'll find that were done on Ecdiskterone were Soviet studies. And the Soviets studied Ecdiskterone, actually there's studies from that time where they compared it to Dianabol. They actually compared it to Dianabol. And it was a low dose of Dianabol, nonetheless by the way, well, Dianabol's D-Ball, it's a steroid. They did a study, I think it was like eight weeks long, Ecdiskterone compared to, I think it was 10 milligrams of 15 milligrams a day of D-Ball, which is low by body building standards, but the average person you give them 15 milligrams of D-Ball are gonna feel it. They compared the two, Ecdiskterone outperformed it. In an eight week study, yes. Ecdiskterone also reliably increases the amount of wool that sheep will grow, increases muscle mass in animals when they test animals, so pigs, cows, you give it to sheep, mice. Now human studies were mixed. However, again, these Soviet studies showed that it worked very well. Now here's the problem, finding real Ecdiskterone was really hard to do back in the day, a lot of bullshit was out there. But I remember, I've taken Ecdiskterone, I've taken real Ecdiskterone. And let me tell you, it definitely works. You definitely build muscle, your appetite goes up. A lot more wool. You get... You get... No side effects. No, it actually, it definitely works. It's not forever. I think you'll take it for like... Oh, is it like humaniform when we played around with that for a little bit? Yeah, so you'll take it for like 60 days and then you're just not doing anything for you anymore. You'll get a libido boost in the beginning and then it kind of flattens out. That's how I felt about humaniform was we were all so excited about messing with that and remember like the first month we were all reporting grade seven and then like plateaued. And then done. Yeah, nothing. And then when you go off, you actually feel a little bit of a dip off of the Ecdiskterone. Now it doesn't interact with hormones, it doesn't raise testosterone. It doesn't interact with the androgen receptors. They think it's mediated by the estrogen receptors. That's interesting enough. Turchesterone is also a similar type of steroid molecule. They're actually steroid molecules. So it's very similar, supposed to be more effective. I've never used Turchesterone, but it's similar to Ecdisterone. If you get real Turchesterone, it'll work. You'll definitely notice, but it's gonna be about 45 days, 60 days and then it's not gonna work anymore. And it's about time. I was waiting for supplement companies to jump all over this. Because I remember thinking to myself, if I ever started a supplement company, I'm gonna, this is what I'm gonna, but apparently it's really hard to find and real expensive. So is this pretty much the same thing then? Is that what you're saying? Turchesterone is supposed to be more effective than Ecdisterone but they're very similar chemically and they're in the same category. And you can find, by the way, spinach. Spinach contains. And no side effects. It doesn't aromatize or anything like that. It's just day one. So here's what's interesting. In the studies that I've read, it has health benefits. So improves liver function, blood sugar numbers, like all that stuff. So now, does that mean that there's no potential, who knows, bad side effects? No, but the studies seem to be pretty good on it. Doesn't like normal testosterone show that? If you have low testosterone, if you have low testosterone, then you take a look. Yeah, but this doesn't affect hormones. So what they used to think was, you take this stuff and it raised testosterone. And that's how they promote it. So in the 90s, when I first read about this stuff, I don't remember where I read the first articles, but it might have been muscle media 2000. That's a throwback. This was a magazine. The black and white pages. Yeah, so this was, it was on a tablet. No, this was back in the day when muscle media 2000 used to write about weird shit and black market stuff. And they wrote about Ekti Sterone and I read about it. And I'm like, holy shit, where can I find this? But they used to think that it was a testosterone booster and that's how they marketed it. Then they did studies and they found it doesn't affect testosterone. Interesting. Doesn't raise testosterone, doesn't lower it. So does this fall under the SARMS category or where does it work? No, because SARMS attach to the Androgen receptor. And this doesn't. Now, here's why you have all this renewed interest because for a while, people were like, this is the next greatest thing. Then everybody was like, oh, this doesn't work because every company that sold Ekti Sterone was selling you bullshit. So people are like, oh, this doesn't work because they weren't getting a real Ekti Sterone. Here's why there's renewed interest. The, was it USADA? Is that the organization that tests, you know? Yeah, athletes. Okay. They came out and said, we may need to ban this from Olympic sports because it works. So now everybody's excited and I knew supplement companies would jump on the shit and say, let's do this. Now it does, they think it does work through the estrogen receptor. So will this have potential negative or positive? Who knows, maybe in women, it might have more of a negative effect. I don't know, but does it work? Yes, it does. Does it work as well as eating good and having a good workout? No. Was it a deer antler one? Oh yeah, yeah. I remember that was popular. Yeah, that's an interesting one too. A lot of anecdotes about that. I've never tried it. I heard a lot of people read about it. I thought you did try that, no? No, I never found deer, like a good brand that I really wanted to try. So I just never gave a shot. I think somebody sent me some of that stuff before. You know, you just got me excited. Maybe I'll try some weird shit again. Yeah. The last time I tried weird stuff was ants. Remember ground up ants? Black ant? Yeah. I had you guys all try that. I forgot about that actually. You just force fed us for that stuff dude. Justin tried it. He smiled, there was like a little ant wig stuck in his teeth. Little antenna. It did nothing. It did nothing. I ate that for no reason. Didn't do shit. Look, if you like our content, you'll love MindPumpFree.com. Head over to MindPumpFree.com. Check out all of our guides. We have guides for fat loss, muscle building, performance enhancement. We have guides for personal trainers. MindPumpFree.com. You can also find all of us on Instagram. So Justin is at Mind Pump Justin. I'm at Mind Pump Salon. Adam is at Mind Pump Adam.