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Hey man, hey man, we got a special guest in here today y'all, he don't need no introduction. He frequency to show his family. This guy right here always show up, always answer the phone for me. When I got in this game, man, he wanted the guys to stick out as, I love to interview this guy. It's only a few of them, man. But check it, man, my boy, little soldier, swimmer's in the building one more game. Back out in Dallas. Man, in the D, man. They get mad up there up in Detroit when we say the D nigga, but we the triple D riding this old man. What's going on, man? I'm laid back. I've been seeing you on the internet. I've been seeing you a little bit, not a lot, but a little bit. I've been trying to lay back, you know what I'm saying? But they still be spending me. They still be trying to get me out. I think it's hard to lay back with the thing that overshadowed you with your dad being a soldier slim. You know what I'm saying? You can't just lay back. I remember when I came down to New Orleans and I was gonna bring you to the House of Blues. And I told that guy, I'm like, yeah, my boy coming. When he get here, you know what I'm saying? Just let him up. He with me. I said, it's a little soldier slim. Oh, slim? He ain't even worry about nothing like that right here. But it's like, that's a good thing, but that could be a bad thing. The good got a lot of weight back. I put in a lot of work to get in that position, though. Because at first they used to be spending me like, it was crazy at first in the beginning. And all that work is not just because of your daddy? No, most definitely. I put in that work to get there. You put in that work. That's good. I would just tell my partner, either like, if I could just get like five, 10 million dollars, I could buy a regular life. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I might move to like Columbia. I figured you would. You know what I'm saying? Just chill. Move out of the country and just chill. Like want a regular life. Yeah, chill. Because you know, a lot of these young kids, a lot of these young kids strive to be celebrities, strive to be in the limelight, want to be famous so bad. I just want that bag. I just see, like I said, what messed me up, a lot of people used to be like, man, you sold your slim side, you're supposed to be, you're supposed to have money. And I ain't had no money. So I just wanted money. But don't you think God work it out that way sometime? I think God lets it happen because it keeps you humble. You know, sometimes if you get that money at the wrong time, you can even look back and say, man, and tell them what I would have done. Man, I got, when I ran my first bag up, I probably was like 20, 21 years old. I went crazy. See? Who was doing everything. Who was buying every gun. Who was doing everything. Like it wasn't, we wasn't doing. That's all right. Man, you know, you gotta understand, man, when I look on the internet, I'm always seeing something, man. It was a deal where I think it was a big gift. Big gift shot at your daddy out. Yeah. He said that he was a real one. You know what I'm saying? Like a real stepper. Like he, if he said he'll do it type situation. How many of those stories do you hear like that? Everybody got that story. Everybody. But you know, a lot of people don't guys. So that's really the difference in people who really, you know, people who met him and people who really knew him. Yeah. Yeah. People who met him and people who really knew him. It's crazy. But at the end of the day, I think because big gift, you know, he been doing his interview runs here lately. He was able to, you know, he tapped into that situation where like, hey man, I gotta shout him out. Cause if you get an opportunity, you knew him from what I'm seeing. Everybody loved your pops when it come down to the way he carried himself in the hood. Even the niggas who didn't like him, who they had a problem with him at the time, they still act like they, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of that, you asked that one time. That's the thing. I was just thinking about that question is the fact that, okay, cause I've met, okay, every time we go to New Orleans or anytime we talk to anybody about, oh, so the slim, everybody's like, oh man, we love him, we love him, we love him. But I met one person who from now on, they live up here now. And there was like, all that's fake. They only do that now that he's gone. But whenever he was there, they didn't show him that type of love when he was alive. Yeah. Like I was watching this interview on UTP Skip there. He was like. I seen him. He was like, Niggas was messing with Slim, but they weren't messing with him like that. They weren't even booking for $2,000, you know what I'm saying? Like real talk. Yeah. And so, yeah, cause I hadn't heard Skip even speak in a minute, like to see that interview, I was happy to see that like, so you did watch that one. And the one thing I can say, I don't care who you interview, where you interview him, if you interview anybody in New Orleans, your dad name is coming up, bro. For sure. And others, and not just New Orleans, but in the South, man. But how does that make you feel when, you know, to hear that when he was here, they didn't give him that love, but now that he's gone, they're trying to give him love? How, cause to me that's sort of like fake, that's fake love. I know what it was. It's cut through for a reason. I know what it was. Wow. I get it because like I said, when you deal with certain people, it's good and bad every time you look around. Like you're gonna meet a lot of people to see me. Like, man, I think he was being obstrecin' and whoop, whoop, whoop, and he was cool. But then his other was gonna say he wasn't cool. But one thing about it, at the funeral, everybody say something nice. You don't say everybody trying to be cool and he was a good man, you know, and I think that kind of thing happens a lot when it comes down to the individual. Only one funeral I know when the dude got up, he was like, this dude wasn't really no good. Like, he must have really messed up personally. He wasn't no good. But that person is totally honest. Yeah, he ended up getting killed because he was just putting himself in the wrong situation. Like, is that wrong? You think somebody to say that at the funeral? All right, that's the truth. Like, we ought to have more- You can't be mad at the truth. That's real. You can't be mad at the truth. Because if I'm out you think about it. If I meet you, I met you and I met y'all. And y'all was like, man, he was a good dude. But everybody else that you know that met me, I robbed him. That would be bad, but- He was cool to us. Like, we liked him. You know what I'm saying? We spent a lot of time around him. He didn't ever do that like that. He robbed everybody else, though. Right. But we just had favor with him. And I think, I bet it is people out there like that, too. That just don't rob with everybody. People like that about me, so I know. It can go down. So- And my dad was getting shot up early in the age. You said that last time, but like, when you hear the story of him getting shot, because it was- My grandmother told me these stories, though. Yeah, but it was Mobo Joe just came on here. He was talking about it, about him going to jail a time before I believe he said, was it him that said that? I mean, it was, it basically, his history pretty much unfolded right in front of everybody quickly in the 90s, right? In the 90s, everybody was seeing it, but he was the next one to blow, right? Like, he was right there at it. Like, he was gonna be the biggest thing ever come through New Orleans. Do you believe that? From the stories you hear, or do you think that would have been? Because I always say- In the 90s? Yeah, because I- No. I always say, mode three, like, he got a lot of love now, the outside song big. It'd be like that. But I told him, niggas man, if he would have still been living, I don't know if the outside song would have been as big because he would have been doing other stuff. He wouldn't have been focused on that like that. He trying to get to the next big thing. Even though the song blew because he died, it'd say- That's why it blew. Jesus, please, can you feel my need, some of those verses, they'd touch a place where they wouldn't have touched if he was living. Right. Right? Most definitely. But now it's the biggest sound. Look, Dirk just remade this song. My dad, in the 90s, no. In the 90s, he was Slim Ripple. Okay, he was, what was that? Explain Slim Ripple. He just was doing this thing. He was in and out of jail. He always had charges and like real serious charges and stuff, you know what I'm saying? He was doing this and he was- So right after that, Tupac, Tupac gets killed in like 96 and then no limit and all that. He ended up down there and he's on no limit and everybody's- That was his first, that was his first chance. That was his first deal ever? That wasn't his first deal ever. He had, you know, smaller opportunities previously, but that was his first real chance. To him, like I write when my cousin gave way home, we was just talking, was at my cousin's funeral on Saturday. And he, you know, both of them ended up on no limit. My daddy and his cousin. What was his cousin's name? Hound. Okay. Hound. Hound. Hound. Okay, Hound. They did it the same time? Yeah, the same time they had to saw me and my cousin. Okay. You feel me? So he was just like, to them, they was like, man, man, we really cousins and we both ended up on, you know, we only got two labels in the city, cash money, no limit and both of us ended up on, you know what I'm saying? We got our opportunity from where we come from while family come from, you feel me? Wow, that's big. It's huge, actually. So that was like his first real opportunity. And he ended up, I guess he, did he stay on there until soldier got killed or did he, he was already off and going? Nah, my dad went to jail. My dad went to jail, 97 or 98, something like that. And I forgot how he ran into me, but he wasn't on the label at all. Wow. So you fast forward, you know what I'm saying? You go to, you decide you're gonna rock with the cutthroat, you're gonna do the whole, you're gonna be a part of it cause you already born into it. Well, at first I used to- You say you used to run from it. I used to run from it, but I just be like to the bone, to the bone. That's why I be saying cutthroat to the bone cause I just had to cutthroat to it cause they was like, you gotta, like a lot of people push me to the door and a lot of people was pushing me away from it. But honestly, I just sat down with my grandmother the other day and she was like, you know, I ain't never told you this, but I'm really proud of you. Really? You really went out and you did everything you said you was going through and you ain't waiting on nobody. I ain't see you falling behind nobody, running behind nobody. She was like, when I used to be talking to you, I ain't never think you listen to me, but the way you move and the way you live your life, you show me everything I said didn't go to waste. Wow. How that made you feel? I was like, in my head, I wanted to tell you like, I'm a Virgo, so I really wanted to tell you I already knew that. I already knew it. Wow. How big is that though? How big is your grandma's relationship and how different is it being at your dad's not here? We could be real closer. We could be closer. It's not like we talk, but it'd be a lot of reminiscent in the conversations. So I always ran from it. You know what I'm saying? When I look at it, when she look at me like, you know, that's what I remind her. And you could tell, like you sit in her eyes, like, you know what I'm saying? But being, okay, being a mother, to me, it's like, that would bring me joy. You understand? As much as yes is reminiscent, and for you, you might think that that's her, it's gonna hurt, it's gonna hurt. But then, Prisway, if your dad had passed away and he didn't have no kids, you understand what I mean? It'd be like he's just gone. But then, when that person leaves somebody behind, it feels like a part of them is still here. You understand what I mean? So for a parent, it feel like you're still here. Although it hurts, because yes, she's looking at you and thinking about him, but still, she's happy. I can't say she's happy because I can't really talk for her. I'm just speaking from a mother's point of view. You know what I mean? So maybe you need to just ask her that, because assuming it, you never know. Maybe she just, you know, she's just happy. We just not getting to the point where to talk? We break a lot of ice with conversations. You know what I'm saying? A lot of stuff that we never would have talked about, we just not getting to it. That's good. She's just not asking me for more help on certain things. You know what I'm saying? That she never done before. That's good. And I always wanted that, like, that's why I used to run from it, because she kind of like used to push me away from it. For real, like, you know what I'm saying? In the beginning, she used to be like, you don't need to follow your daddy first. I was like, I never understood it until my cousin broke it down to me. Like my same cousin, it was a couple years ago, I was like 18 years. Like you got to understand, like my cousin lost his life to this. You feel me? Of course she don't want you to, you know what I'm saying? She had a fear in her heart about it. So that's what it was the whole time, but just of how I moved. Like, you know y'all, I don't hang with nobody. You feel me? I got my beat with me the day just out of the screen. I was like, man, look, come ride the Dallas with me. You feel me? Right. Like, she like that, though. That's good. When you, I just seen you the other week, you was on Off The Ports. You and my girl. Yeah, man. You and Peech was off the porch. She had me to come with us, so I drove out, though. Wow, how did you, and you was so laid back. I always be proud of you when I see you in the video. I love you. I love you. I like, that's my guy right there. Like, he ain't out here popping it. They be trying to figure me out. They be trying to figure me out, you feel me? So I just let them think what they gonna think it is what it is. Man, you got no points to prove on whatever story you think, whatever you want to put it. So that was your second time on that platform, right? Yeah. Yeah. So like, and that was Peech's first time. Yeah. So how did, did she have a good time? Yeah, she, she really enjoyed herself. She was happy about it. Yeah, as long as she enjoyed herself. She enjoyed that. You know, for people like us, then get invited on certain platforms. Like, it's like, y'all giving us all flowers. Man, we come for you, though. A lot of people be talking that talk, saying whatever in the car. I don't be cared about knowing that. I just know that this platform is here to, to, to celebrate. I don't pay, I don't pay, I don't pay, I don't mind. You know what I'm saying? To celebrate, like, we celebrate. My life is whatever it is. Like, I ain't, like my partner just told me my partner, he was like, man, Slaman, I ain't a lot. Man, you livin' better than all these rap niggas, he said, man, you really got it. You really got the big ol' house, you know what I'm saying? Ride and fly, like, yeah, you really havin' it, you feel me? And you should be proud of the moves you made. How do you think your dad would feel about the moves you done made since you been movin' on? My, my grandma told me, like, I'm turned up. Like, the way she put it to me, she was like, you turned up, like, I'm happy. Like, she was like, think about it. Even if you're dead, you're ups and downs. You know, you went to jail. What do, what do, what do? She was like, you always shook back. You always got yourself out of, out of bad situations. Like, that's hard. Like, like, I just, I definitely know that it's a thing where, you know, you just have to, you have to keep holdin' on, bro. You know what I'm sayin'? You can't give up. Then kids make it even more. If you got kids and all that. You can't give up. It make you drive. It make you drive harder. It make you go harder. And that's the whole game, like, and I think that's what pretty much pushed us to that. But yeah, before kids would always push me was, I used to be like, man, I could quit today and tomorrow could be my day. Real tough. Even today. Like, I'm 27 years old, I still tell myself that. Wow. I heard Peter say that the museum thing, she's gonna, she's gonna change it over to a museum. First, he was talking about a movie last time. Now, so you think the movie out of the museum is more important? The movie don't take a lot. The museum can be done quicker. Yeah. So, and it would be something people would enjoy. Honestly, man, I kinda wanna do like, a biography movie on him, while an autobiography movie on him, because it'll be me doin' it. Yeah. Well, it'll be us doin' it. You know what I'm sayin'? I kinda wanna do that, but then I kinda wanna do like a series on like, Cause that's what everybody doin' now is serious. But I want it to be like, I don't want it to, I want it to be how everybody painted him to be, cause you know a lot of stuff be over exaggerated. Like, I want him to be like the biggest person in New Orleans, like, literally walk on the run, you know what I'm sayin'? Like, I kinda want the show to be like that, cause that'll be fire too. That's a good idea. Cause like, the series could be that, it won't be like, you know, a hundred percent. It's just like the BMF thing. Like, it was kinda true, you know what I'm sayin'? But it ain't. Yeah, but it ain't, right. You know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, I definitely... Where did I see y'all see you? Did you freeze, did you go and wrap economics? Yeah. How was that? You not been like that with them for a couple years. Yeah, yeah, I talked to him the other day on the phone. Yeah, Kirk. I been like that. Nah, the other one. Um, Charsley? No. Prez. Prez, yeah, and they're Kirk. Yeah, me and him talked the other day. Second time, but the first time, he couldn't get through. Yeah. This time he did. I mean, we been like this. How was it going on his show? It was cool. It was? It was cool. Yeah. That's hard, man. Like I said, did you feel like... That's the first people I've come in with in Texas. It was fire. Like, I ain't get no bad feedback. Yeah. They liked the song, so, you know what I'm sayin'? I just... You just did what you do. Yeah, that was my first time, like, performing though, like, in a minute. Like, you know? Yeah, yeah. I had to do it. It was acapella. Okay, okay. You know, it was just a beat. Yeah, and you went in. Man, do you like doing it like that? Doing that type of... I didn't start practicing more. It's been a minute. Like, you know, I used to perform when I was younger. Like, it's been a minute. I don't really... You know, I broke away and I didn't really jump back into hiring the people, putting the people back into a place to give me to do certain things that I used to do. I seen you on some younger pictures when I was looking you up over at Serrani. Serrani's at Peaches. I was wild. You was wild. And you was little. You was slim. Wild. Like, 125. Real tall. Grab my partner, Willa. Man, he used to always crack jokes about this, but I used to have this thing I'd do while grabbing by their pockets, by their pants pockets. You know what I mean? And I could pick you up on your pants pockets. You were kicking it. Yeah, I used to be like, let's stuff like that. Like, I used to have little engineers and stuff we used to be getting into. We were about on music. I used to put niggas in chokeholds. Oh, yeah. So they used to be like, man, leave him alone. Dude, wild. They used to be jokes enough, but... And then even the serious stuff, when they got outplayed and I get serious or whatever you want to do, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah. What about this? When you hear that song, Slow Motion for me, was your pop song? Like, how do you feel about him and dude that? That's one of the bigger songs, right? You know, I got the original version. So I don't, like... I like that it's a big song, you know what I'm saying? But I just went back and listen to the original version and just, I be studying the art of it, how they put it together, you know what I'm saying? Okay. The art of making the hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I look more into because I'm able to get an inside scoop on it. Do you like the original version better? I mean, my dad had not perfected it yet, but you know it was just him. Then he put Juvenile on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was just him and that's his song. I love that song. I think that was a dope song, man, just the way he hit that, he hit that whole man. And like I said, anything he get on, he had an energy on it, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, you know, he never really got, well, him or his family never really got the conversation they were supposed to. Really? Yeah. How does that work though? It's politics. But you see what I'm saying? And this is after, they put that out after he passed, right? Yeah. So how would that not, how would it not go? It's politics. I don't get it. I don't, because after somebody passes away, he would think people would do right by them. People don't do right by people, especially how old we're from. Ever. And then like, I can't just point no fingers at who didn't do right, who ain't, you know what I'm saying? Because you know, it'd be managers, it'd be labels, it'd be, you know what I'm saying? But did the family get anything? Yeah. But it just was, and it's still, what about like? Nah, it wasn't the due diligence. Yeah. And like far as the publishing and the stuff that, all the stuff, none of that ever is not still a thing. I don't want to say too much. Okay. All right, I'm gonna get out of it. You know what I'm saying? But it's just crazy because it was such a big song, you would think that that one would be one that, cause they still playing like crazy today. And so what about that from what I was told? Man, I just like, I'm just not sitting down, going through a lot of his paperwork and stuff and it's fucked up. Really? You still dealing with that? Yeah. You would be the one that would have to deal with it. What a whole estate bump. Like I said, my grandmother not really hands on. So it just me and my auntie, and my auntie got what she got going on. So I'm the only one just out here making the moves. Like, well, like my auntie, she make a lot of moves too. You know what she can, but she work her job. Yeah. So I be trying to make like. You trying to figure it out? I'm trying to figure it out. But it's a learning process and, but then at the same time, is there, no, go ahead. So this is a problem that I be having. Like a lot of lawyers that I be connecting with, and you can tell when I start saying certain stuff, they get scared. Yeah, because I know you already know certain things. No, they don't want to go against certain individuals. Exactly. Okay. And like, it's majors, you know what I'm saying? So they not really like, they don't be trying to, they be trying to spend me, but it's a process. But then, okay, even if they gotta go against, some of them look at their reputation and stuff like that, but is there a statute on limitation on how long it takes for you to try to sort it out? Is there? That's what the lawyer told me. Okay. But then on my way out, I'm telling my partner about it. You know what I'm saying? We chopping it up. So he like, Google it. We Google it. You know, it's not a statute, but it's 95 years. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Wow. So you can take as much time as you want to try to figure this out. But I'm pushing it. Pushing it. And you think you have a good case for it? You got a hell of a case. It's bad business. But you know, but when I say a good case, because you know politics run a lot of this stuff. Right. Meaning it's not just gonna be straight laced and here it is and this is all you need to do. And that's it. You gonna have to go through a lot. It's gonna be a process because adjust the way that a lot of the business even with like his first situation. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot. Like it's a lot. And my grandmother was going through it and really I wish like when she was going through it during the time I was old enough. So I wish she would have brought me in on it then. And I could have been more on top of it. She didn't stay on top of it like she should. So yes, it's nothing like we just not. But it ain't like you lost anything. It's never been no sort of some money in the family for us until this year. Oh really? Real time. Wow. But. Like people don't understand like why we act the way we act. You know what I'm saying? Like my grandma was a janitor in the cafeteria worker for a long time. You feel me like, you know what I'm saying? That she started out of the cleaning business. Like, you know what I'm saying? So just like imagine if that was your mom using that situation. And I know you put, I know you carried on your show to being the man. Right, and you know I worked hard. Yeah. So everything I did, like I was laying it down out you. But the thing is. What is the business? It's the business, but it's really a thing where you would be the guy that would be like, man, let me figure this out. Yeah, because if not. Right. And we just continue into, like we still building what we have going on personally on our own in my auntie, but we could be doing it a little more comfortable. Yeah. And I think he would want you to do that. Yeah, of course. He would want you to do that. He definitely wouldn't want me doing what I do. Just sit down and yeah. You know I'm rocking. Yeah. He definitely wouldn't want that. But he definitely would want you going and trying to figure this legacy out because that's what he would be doing. He'd probably be better, but it would have been bad. He'd probably been locked up. Yeah. He'd probably been locked up about that. Yeah, because he ain't gonna let you make it. But the only thing I think about, and the reason why I say it's just this industry because even like when you watch straight out of Compton and you saw them boys on tour, doing their thing and whatever. And then somebody said, somebody said up in a news conference said to Ice Cube, hey, what did you do with all this money that you'd be making? And at that time he wasn't really making no money. He just was quiet because he was like, what money? I ain't making all that money. And that's what made him go and ask the question. But even then he was still getting run arounds. That's the business. That's what I'm saying. It's the business. I learned that that's the business. Like I got partners that signed to labels who you would think they getting money. And I'm living better than them. I believe that. I believe that 100%. I think when they on tours and you know what I'm saying? So is it that they don't know what to do? But I'm living better than them. Is it that they don't know the knowledge? They don't know what to do because you can't tell me that every artist even starting out, all of them are broke so to say. You have to have some that came in the game, had the knowledge, stand up on what they believe in and did. A lot of them still independent. Right. They never signed to nobody because they didn't make sense. Like I never, I turned down a lot in the beginning because it didn't make sense and I was having money. I didn't understand the business. Like I used to watch a lot of interviews of people. I looked up to like young thug. You know what I'm saying? He was like, my first deal was horrible. It was the worst deal ever. But I had to work myself out of it. And if I would have had that mentality, then it would have been different for me. But I was like, I'm young, I'm thugging, I'm trapped out. Like I'm having paper, you feel me? I got my own tear. You don't need it. I don't need it. Like I got a hundred racks in my closet right now. I can go touch it, you feel me? But the people who get caught up in it is the people that need it, who need to pay help, their mama, daddy, who need to set people up, want to get their house. Who ain't got a money, who ain't got the resources. So they're the ones who always get it. They're the ones who really have no hustle. So they looking for the quick. The quick, easy. They're just relying on their talent. That's it. Wow, I gotta ask you about the elephant in the room, man. Magnolia Dana, she hit me up, you know what I'm saying? And what she did, but her people did, and I didn't hear it. I wanted to say the elephant in the room. Because he does that all the time. Oh, no, that's the thing. I'd say what I know what he eat. I know this nigga, Grayson. Oh, they being saying that the camera is. No. I saw you on Instagram, and she was like, hey, y'all, it's Magnolia Dana, and I'm looking for love at the soul of the slim. I didn't see it. No, I wouldn't know that. The man up here was sending me that, man. The cameras are so crazy. Ah, damn. Did somebody call her that or something? Man, them people going hard on the internet. They be going hard on me, but they be going hard. But I seen the, I shout out to the Magnolia twins, too. I seen them say some stuff, too. You know, far as about, you know, about the situation. I don't really know them. Yeah, but they called me one day. Yeah, I don't know them. They called me, like, on the phone with somebody else. Somebody they knew me. People do this all the time. And, but at the end of the day, you said that you would give a blood test. Man, I don't even want to get back into that because she tried to play on me, but that's what I do how to say. That's what I do how to say, like, like me and my grandma, like, me and my grandma just had this conversation. My daddy been with me since the day I was born and the day he died. And we got pictures to approve it. So just post your pictures. So she has never posted a picture of him with her son at all? Can't. Or post the picture with her and him. No. Nothing. So I don't think she can. Like, even before me, it's pictures of my mom and my dad are together with pictures, you feel me? Like, why not post them? Like, you know what I'm saying, like. Because he was a person that if he had a child, he definitely would. Even if she had hit it from him, because you have some females out here who would be like mad at a man and be like, I'm not even gonna tell him. But if that's the case and she was, you know, rocking with him or whatever, she would have had a picture with him, not even maybe not with a child, but with him. That's what I'd be thinking. I don't know. I ain't seen nothing. Man, my daddy got kids. I write on my last interview. I was like, if I had a brother, it would be this dude, Stanley Morgan, he played for the Bengals. Really? Yeah, because my daddy was with his mama. Like, in a relationship, they got pictures together, like family pictures. Like, my dad is Monique and Stan. You know what I'm saying? His pictures of me and Stan together, like. When you were three babies. Yeah, I used to go, like, this is my brother. You feel me? He introduced me and was like, this is your brother. Wow. Yeah, he just, he played for the Bengals. So, so you're not against. He's not what you're talking about. Right. You know what I'm saying? You're not against having a brother Listen, like, Stan would really be my brother. Like, we, even after my daddy died, we spent summers together. We spent Christmases together. You know what I'm saying? His mama always came and got me. His mama always showed me love, like, bought me clothes. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's dope. Real talk, like, so it's, that's, that's all I got to say about that. Like, I ain't trying to put down on nobody. I don't, I don't got nothing to gain out that. And I don't, if, if her son just want to be a little soldier slim that bag, have it. Like, I'm trying to give me some paper and be a regular nigga. Yeah, but he's still incarcerated, though, from what I hear. I said, but people be wanting, you know what I'm saying? People be wanting to, all right, fuck. I don't want to say that, because they was like, oh, y'all trying to make it like she want clout, but this generation is just full of, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to get some paper and get a file. I don't know what I'm going to be saying. I don't care about having no Instagram, no YouTube, no, none of that. None of this stuff. If I wasn't, if I inherited any paper from my dad in there, it would never be me, period. It wouldn't be no little soldier, but we're having another. But let me ask you a question though, because, okay, when you mentioned clout, but at the same time, like, I like to take myself out of whatever shoe or you'd be unbiased, so to say, bi-party. So, before she went, hold on, before she went to social media, to anything where everybody could see, has she ever came to the family and say, hey, this is a situation. I need blood tests if you want to be reassured. You know, to speak to the family first before she actually went to social media. Do you know of that? She never wrote my grandmother. She never went to or none of that. The first message is later ever talked to me. Was what date? Like, if you look on my Facebook, it's March 6th, 2017. All right, so look, my daddy had this partner longer black, you feel me? And he in jail. Like, I used to be with him in everything, you know what I'm saying? But he ain't never mentioned this. Like, never, ever, never told me nothing about it. So he was in jail. He was like, man, you know, I think he had this shit. She from out of our project. And I think your dad had a baby boy with the woo. He was like, man, you know, I just want you to link up with her. You feel me? I'm like, all right, cool. I'll do it. You know what I'm saying? That was 2017. So she wrote me and she said, hey, your uncle Larga said, you want to meet my son. We need a number on you. I ain't even right up back. Kill me. I ain't even right up back. But like, so that's why, like, I wasn't trying to put her down like she be lying in my last interview. But I ain't never met her son. She can't say I met her son. I don't know dude. I never met her son. So you never met him. But she say y'all linked up. But if I linked up with him, then I'd be saying, yeah, I linked up with him. My first met him. At 13. At 13, I ain't. He would have remembered that at 13. You would have remembered that. At 13, I was stuck in. All right, he would have remembered that. My cousin, who just got cute, he gave him my first gun when I was 13 years old. Feel me? Real talk, like I was in the city. I'm outside. I would have remembered that. I used to be all in vassals and everything. 13, 14 years old. Like I'm outside. I'm on Frenchman Street. Real talk. Wow. That was my dude. Like I said, I just know it's going around. It's everywhere on the internet. Everybody, you know, posting it, reposting it. And at the end of the day, if there's no validity, how does that make you feel at the end of the day? I was only trying to offer some sincerity. That's not the reason I spoke on her in the first place. I don't give a fuck about it. Yeah. Fuckin' ain't my kids. I got three kids of my own. Fuck, I wasn't here when she was here to handle this business for real. I ain't got shit to do with me. Yeah, yeah. Feel me? I just don't want my grandma worrying about it. Like, could she be calling me? Like you could tell when she bothered with something. You know what I'm saying? She don't really, she don't call me like that. But if something's going on, she gonna call me like. She calling like, you know what I'm saying? Her name don't really pop up on my phone, but if something's going on, she gonna call me. You can tell, like, I don't, like I just was trying to be a helping hand to everybody. You know what I'm saying? That's the only reason I was like, whatever you want to do, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Who wouldn't be the only way to squash it is to do like a test or something? Yeah, but I don't know, I don't know if that, I mean, didn't ever come of that, I don't think. You hadn't talked to this lady, have you? Gee, he said no. So, so ain't nothing come of that. I just let you read all the messages from any time I talk to her. Not face to face, I should say. I'd never seen her face to face. Oh, you never, you never met her. It just, it just Facebook, you know what I'm saying? She found me on Facebook and just, and by the time she wrote me, I had my first child. Like you see it say March, 2017, my first child, born February, I got her birthday on me. February, 13th, 2017. Who's she talking about after? And so she did contact you before she actually went to social media because she only went to social media last year where when she came out in the open. She, no, she came out, she went to social media right after that too. Oh, right after that? Okay, because nobody really, I don't, we don't even heard about it. It was just like Facebook. That was before she just started doing the views and stuff, you know what I'm saying? Okay, that's what it was. But like I said, even if, that's not my business, you know what I'm saying? No, I just was, you know how you take, you come out of the- If he was his girlfriend, people would be like, yeah, he was his girlfriend. So you should, that gotta be a lie, you know what I'm saying? What the hell? What's the long ass message? I'm telling you, she was sending me books. She just- You see the days, I ain't, you know what I'm saying? I know that lie, but I was like, cause I don't care at the end of the day. Like it ain't, it ain't me. It ain't your child. It ain't your child and we don't know if it's factual. So then my mama asked me about it and I told her straight up. I was like, man, my honestly, if the shoe was on underfoot, like you just said, you gotta look at things from every side. That was my situation. I would not care. You think I'm about to let my mama get on here and everybody knew my mama a flipper? I'd be for real. I don't want nobody to know that about my mama, you feel me? But then also, but also, man, okay, be the woman. Men be out here doing their thing and doing their thing and it could be a one night thing. Maybe it's a one night thing and he did a one night thing. Don't even, he may not even have known her name, so to say. And she had gotten a baby pregnant and she was like, most women would be like, hey, I'm pregnant. Most women, especially because of who he is, would have been like, I'm pregnant. But say for instance, she didn't go to him and even say that. If that was you, and you're still living, what would you want her to do? What my mama or what I want the chick to do? The chick to do. I rise up on like, I'm gonna tell you a situation about me. I got three kids that I know for sure. But they had this chick that I was messing with. You know what I'm saying? Before my big mama, she got a little girl. The little girl really kind of looked like my daughter. Okay. So like, I contemplated on it for a long time because she had blocked me on the last thing and I ghosted her. You know what I'm saying? I was young. Yeah, he did that thing, I ghosted her, but I really wanted to know. So I just asked her, I was like, who your child's father is, you know? And she was like, what do, what do I? Okay, cause you know what some women would be like, I don't want you to have, especially that the kid stands you. I don't, don't be like that with my kids. Like, I'm trying to, you know what I'm saying? Do you really, reading through these messages, do you think that she just doing this to get him support while he was locked up? Why he's locked up? Cause that's what I'm from there? Yes. Okay, I don't want people to think I'm lying. Fuck, I don't. You know what I'm saying? That's what it sounds like. If you read it, it seems like she's asking about letters to the parole board and all kind of stuff, like things that really you count, it's like a cry for help more than anything. And that was when he first probably got locked up too. It's crazy. But she, you know, on her interview, she said it wasn't about no money or no, she didn't need nothing. They didn't need anything from us. They just wanted him to know who his family was. Man, I mean, like I said, it's tough enough trying to understand. That's why he want people to include him in it. She shouldn't have got nothing to do with me, you feel me? Yeah. My hands up. But what does it benefit to go out and just do a whole campaign on the fact that this is my, well, I guess you can make money off of it. Doing interviews. Man, that'd be a lot, but you definitely could do something. But I just try to figure out the benefits of it. You know what I'm saying? So we can move on past that. Man, so the new music that you bought to drop, because I mean. I'm working on his project with this five producer, Heartbeats. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Heartbeats. I seen the dude, the dude fly and I needed, yeah, I supposed to be talking to him for show, for show. So what make you like the way he produced music? Well, really, we just live. You know what I'm saying? He hit me up and he was like, he used to work with Heartbeats by the Prime. One of my daddy produces, he used to work under, you know what I'm saying? We was younger. He was like, man, you know, I produced for a lot of people tech, Jetty Young and you know what I'm saying? He produced a lot of Jetty Young music. Yeah, I see the Jetty Young one. That's the one that's playing more. That was his artist. That was like one of his main artists. So he was like, I just want to work with you. When I went to the studio, we did two songs. Like they held me. Wow. You know what I'm saying? And the next time I went, I paid for the song. Then my partner, who just died. He didn't wake up on May 8th. But is this the second one? The one one got killed. My cousin, who funeral just went to Saturday. He got killed on single Dimaio May 5th. Well, I don't even want to go there. My cousin was stuck in the street. That's when I was talking about he came my first gun. And how was he? He was 33. And how did you hear that he passed away? My grandma wrote me. I didn't even open the message. My grandma didn't even call my phone. She wrote me a messenger on Facebook. She was like, Sam, Sam got killed this morning. And I just, I talk to him every day. Like, there's my blood. Like I take him with me. Like, you don't really see too many people with me, but he was one of the people you will see with me. Like, because we grew up on that. You know what I'm saying? Like, we grew up on that type of time. Like them, like my brothers, him and his brother. I'm like, my brother's like, I'm dudes. And my cousin's that's older than me. Like, I'm 27, he's 33, so he's six years older than me. But he was doing everything like, when you first got shot up, he got shot like eight times. He was like 16, 17 years old. This time he didn't make it. He only got shot one time this time, but he bled out. He got in the car doing that and he didn't take him to the hospital. Really? So did he catch the guy that done it? He was the other dude. He was shooting him. The dude was shot him, he was shooting him. Yeah, he died in the shootout. Both of them died. The other dude, he got shot like nine times that day, but he was still in critical condition last month, sure. Damn. So damn, man, RIP, man, damn. It's crazy how fast things be happening out here. That was at nine o'clock in the morning. Nine in the morning? They getting up at nine in the morning. How do you sidestep all this stuff, man? I ain't gonna lie, I ain't. Like I said, that was nothing. It was like my brother, for real. Like he was like, I ain't got no big brothers, you know what I'm saying? That was my big brother. He was one of them cousins who don't play about his family, you know what I'm saying? And we was close. We grew up close, real, real close. I don't really know how to just explain it all the way. I spent every summer, every holiday with him. You never would have done it. The only time I didn't spend with him was when him and his brother was in and out of jail. And you never would have thought this would happen? No, because, I mean, I knew cousin still, but man, we just got away from so much, you know what I'm saying? Like the stuff we used to do and stuff we was on. That was way worse. You know what I'm saying? Way worse, like I ain't, I wasn't expecting that right. Now then he got married, like cousin died, married. He just got married. Man, he ain't just getting married. I married like two years ago, you know what I'm saying? Trying to change his life from around. Yeah, like he started, when he was younger, he started a brass band, started his own band. So he had, he was going hard when he was younger. He started going to jail, you know what I'm saying? He started being on the street. So he was getting back into the band a little more. He was supposed to play Essence Fast that day. Wow. And then that happened that morning. It was an old beef. You think or was it something that just happened over some money? It said it was arguing over some money. Wow. Something simple. Now both of them pretty much in the situation and where he passed away and the other one could pass away. I just, man, like I said, man, I want you to be careful out there, man. We love you, bro. I don't want to be honest no more like that. Yeah, I know. I got you to chillin' the last time. I'm chillin', man, I'm livin', I'm livin' good. Like, man, I don't even want to brag. But crazy stuff can happen anywhere. You just have to be able to. You gotta be on game. You gotta be on point. Exactly. I ain't nobody arguing no nigga though. Bikers, all that stuff. It could be over a million dollars. You better not have a million dollars right there because I'm just hitchin' and goin' by my business. For real. I got, that's enough money to buy me, you know what I'm saying? Buy me out my situation. Well, yeah, I look at it. The thing you gotta understand, man, is the devil be sittin' traps, my brother. He knows how to try to put some. Now, you just said that your other cousin passed away in his sleep. I found my uncle. No, my partner. It's your partner. My partner, he was 26 years old. The Duhoi Beaks, I ain't never went to the studio without my partner. Like, he's my partner. Like, he used to work together a lot. Like, he helped me make a lot of money, you know what I'm sayin'? We helped each other make a lot of money. Like, he just, I ain't know he had, his health was bad like that. That's why we got this tattoo form. What, you got like a sleep disorder? Man, nah, he had diabetes. And how old was he? Twenty-some? Twenty-six. Twenty-six. But he ran in this family. And he knew he had it and everything? Yeah, yeah, if I thought he had it, but he didn't really take no medicine. Take care of himself and stuff. What was it? So they say he had been throwing up all night. Like, can't breathe. That's not gonna kill you. Like, when he went and took a shower, they say he used to go get in the shower and like go to sleep in the shower, you know what I'm sayin'? But his girl was like, she call the ambulance, he was trying to catch his breath. And she went outside of the ambulance, she came back in, he was dead. Wow, so it's very important to make sure you get that diabetes check. Yes, cause diabetes is a killer. Y'all, please don't mess with that. Wow, man, so how you holdin' up with all these back-to-back, you know, incidents? Like, cause I seen it on your page. And then the day after that, my cousin died. You, this the third person? Yeah, it's the third person. It's June or this Saturday comin' up. Yeah, I always say it comes in three. How did he pass away? Man, they just say he was in the hotel with some strippers. And they say they had the strippers on camera comin' out with all this stuff. Yeah, so I don't know if they slipped somethin' on them, but they say he died from massive heart attacks. So now it's a, it's a- Yeah, they slipped somethin' on him. How old was he? He was like 50. Oh, oh, okay. Cubs had just shook back like for like two years. He was messed up. He was in the 18-well accident. He actually got like 10 million dollars. Oh, that money, I just told you about that money. They know. That money can't drive me to, man, I get them. They know. They try to just setin' them up. Live in it. You know what I'm sayin'? I got this big money, yeah. Like, I done ran through a bag every year. Like, every year I'm gettin' a bag runnin' through it. But you're used to it. For people who not used to it and come upon money like that, they gon' floss and floss hard. And everybody, they want everybody to know that they got it. Man, Cubs turned 30, I think about about 30 cars. See, I told you, I told you, you want everybody to know that you got it. Well, I ain't gon' lie. I just want a mansion, like. That's it. I just want a stupid mansion. I can move my whole family in. That's bought and paid for. Yeah, that's bought and paid for. We all gon' keep it clean. We gon' keep it up. We gon' take care of each other, you know what I'm sayin'? Yeah. Well, you know, I hear rumors that BG bout to come home. I think BG in the hell we have. That's what I'm hearing. That's gon' be big, you know? Did you have a relationship with BG? Never met him? Yeah, I met him. I met him a couple of times. We just ain't had no relationship. He's older, you know, so he's like me. He was my daddy partner, so he woulda had to reach out to me. Exactly. You know what I'm sayin'? You know, that's what I be thinkin'. But did you, you know, you went, you went and actually seen Mac when he was locked up? I went and seen C. Myrtle. Oh yeah, you went and seen C. Myrtle, yeah. He called for me, though. Okay. So he reached out to me and wanted me to come see him. You know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, he used to be calling me. I used to be, I was going to Jackson State at the time. So I had an apartment off campus. You know, they be having a little student apartment and I used to have a studio and I used to be recording there, recording myself. So are you, have you reached back out to C. Myrtle? I talked to him, I probably like two months ago. You did? How's he doin'? C. Myrtle. C. Myrtle? He real solid, real strong-minded. I be seen as daughters, man. Yeah, he want to be grown up like crazy. Yeah, man, you know, I ain't seen him in a minute but I love them girls like my sister still, like. Really? Yeah, we think we was close, we was real, real close but you know how life be. Like, yeah, you get older, man. That's what people don't understand. They be like, man, we was young. Why not stay in Houston? And I need to link up with them. Really? Yeah. Cause you not remember them girls, they was young, like, you know what I'm sayin'? Like his oldest daughter, Chelsea, she used to be like my manager, you know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, like we was, you know. She was managing the bar. Who was trying to figure it out, right? Trying to figure it out, you know what I'm sayin'? And that was the position she chose, she was just. Yeah, cause she wasn't gonna rap so she's like, let me do the business part. I'm a man, I'm a man of the soul. Man, I think that's dope that y'all even still get, like I said, it's hard coming up under, under those shadows of celebrities. You see all the celebrity kids, most of the time a lot of the time they, aw man, you know, they can't figure it out or if they do figure it out, people criticizing them but that's a whole different ball game, man. I feel for that. I never tried, I never tried to go the way that a lot of rapper kids be going. Yeah. That was my thing, I just fell in the life that was presented for me, you know what I'm sayin'? Like my whole, my whole family is just this, what I am, you know what I'm sayin'? That's why I'm young, but they look at me like I'm a big dog, you know what I'm sayin'? When is that new project gonna drop when? Asap, I'm tryin' to get, I see heartbeats, he got a situation, you know, he got distribution, he got all the situation in place, you know, I got no situation. Everything I do is out my hands. So we tryin' to put something together, you know, I'm tryin' to make it like one of the ones, put it, put something together, put a little situation together for it. See, you know what I'm sayin'? See what we can really do, get placement. Yeah, we tryin' to really, yeah. Out of everybody, I've heard you talk about Snoop, I've heard you talk about all these different people, man. All of these different people from, I see everybody, they really ride in the co-teller, your father's name, like, when they come down to just showin' him love from a, I love Soldier Slim, I was his, have anybody ever reach out to you that sticks out to you, like this dude really a genuine dude, they really love my dad, he rock with me like he, do you feel that from any one of these people? I found famous people? Any one of these famous people. The ones who keep gettin' on the damn documentaries. The ones who keep, every time you look around, they sayin', yeah, that's that, yeah, he was this, he was that. I done talked to a bunch of niggas that say this, but I'm askin' you have any of these niggas, any of them, you felt that genuineness, cause this is the thing, if I was passed away, I would want somebody to look out for my kids, or reach out to my wife, or somebody to say, if these gonna be my homeboys, or they really rock with me, and you see them on videos with me. A lot of my dad relationships with a lot of famous people was fake. A lot of. Even the ones you think might be the closest. Was fake. After he died, a lot of them niggas did fake shit, bitch ass shit. Wow. So even if it wasn't any genuineness to it, they had done some fake shit, so you know how it be. So it just, and that's the part, man. It's sorry, it's like people say it, you see it, you kinda get numb to it, cause you have to start ignoring it, cause it really ain't, it has no essence. You know what I mean? I'm just telling you from being a person who just start really looking into this whole situation, and I only been on the scene for a couple of years now. I just come into this, but I come from a different mentality. I got a pot and my best friend died. I done been to a lot of funerals. You know what I'm sayin'? I found my uncle dead, my daddy dead, my mama dead, everybody goin', my nigga. So, where is this genuineness at when it come down to really, we rock together? My mama fed you, nigga, we eatin' at the same table, at the same bowl, you know what I'm sayin'? And when you younger, you'll hear stuff, but you'll never analyze it to years later. Yeah. That's how it is for me in life, not like a lot of stuff that I, a lot of people I should've been closer to told me a lot of real stuff. They did love phone and stuff that made me venture off from them, but I think back on stuff that they told me, like a while, like probably like 2016, me and Waco was in Atlanta, and he runnin' it to me. Well, he runnin' it to me, 100, you feel me? But, man, he did somethin' he was like, I was young, you know what I'm sayin'? I was young and I was petty, like he did somethin' he was like, come get him, come get him, he gon' do somethin' for me, he end up doin' what he said he was gon' do. So I stopped goin' around the last time as of the phone for him, but I be thinkin' back on the conversation that he had, the conversation that we had in the car when he asked me to do that for him was way more valuable than what he said he was gon' do. And I tell you, nobody's perfect, though. You gotta always remember that. And people are busy, for sure. So people not always gon', you know, do everything they say they're supposed to do. You can't always- I was kinda dependent on them. You know how it is when you're dependent on somebody, they psych you up, you know what I'm sayin'? A lot of people speak with excitement, man, but when they come down, and I'm not just, I'm not speaking on wacko, but I'm just sayin' in general, a lot of people speak with passion, but when they come down to makin' these moves and doin' what you say you gon' do, that is not as easy as sayin' what you gon' do. Well, it's definitely- I think a lot of people be just talkin'. Like I said, I'm not talkin' about him. And it was petty, it wasn't like he told me, you know what I'm sayin'? He was gon' pay my rent- Nah, no. He was petty, you know what I'm sayin'? It was just like, I'm out of the pen and all, you feel me? So I ain't even tell them, I just ain't out on the front for no more. You just start movin' different. Like I said, you had to have this certain chip on your shoulder, so to speak, because of the way that you see people, what is their motive behind them even dealin' with you? Right? So that's what this conversation was based on. His conversation was really telling me like, I'm sayin' you with the wild, but you be actin' like this with them, you be actin' like that with me, you know what I'm sayin'? He like, but when he givin' me his real, he like, a lot of people that look out for you might show you love, they really doin' it out of guilt. Well, yeah, like he runnin' it. And it hit me like years later, like, man. But it gave you some real jewels. It hit me once I started dippin' it, dippin' it to my state papers and stuff, you know what I'm sayin'? I'm tryin' to figure it out. Well, man, hey, man, you know, anything, did I leave out anything? How can people get a hold of you if they tryin' to rock out with you? You know what I'm sayin'? YouTube, let's soldier slim? Let's soldier slim? No Instagram. No Instagram, let's soldier slim. No, say, man, I gotta ask you this question before I let y'all off the show. If you, if you, if, just, and this is a wild question, but I asked this question a lot, like, what would you want people remember you by? If your legacy had to be spoken on and you weren't able to speak on it? If my legacy was spoken on and I wouldn't speak on it, what people would remember me by was all that helpin' hands that I gave out. Man, I took care of so many niggas, like, maybe put people in way better situations that they ever would've seen without feelin' about it took so many losses on a chin for tryin' to help the next person. So it'll just be that. That's hard. What else you got? None of it? Say, man, listen, man, we love you, man, little soldier slim. You always family, so I know this ain't our last interview. I know you will always come here. I don't care what you doin', stop what you doin'. You gon' come through here and rock out with Boss Talk 101 every quarter. Every quarter, when that new project come out, I'm gonna be, I'm vibin', I'm vibin'. You know I gotta come to Houston, too. You know, I'll be comin' down there. Or I'll be comin' down Atlanta. I got a studio on my house. You do? Yeah, we can set up. Man, see, we can do whatever, man. Like I said, whatever you doin', I'm doin'. You know what I'm sayin'? We need a different scenery, huh? Man, check it, man, hey, man. Listen, man, make sure you gotta like, subscribe to Boss Talk 101, man. My guy, little soldier slim, showed up. Miss Jamaica, we did our thing up in here, man. It's been another great segment. A Boss Talk 101, what a boss has taught. And we out.