 Like me personally, I think paternity tests should be mandatory at like childbirth, like regardless of if you're married or whatever, like just give it flat out. But if you want, like, I don't see why you can't just like do a paternity test. Like our technology has evolved so far now that you really don't have an excuse to say, Oh, is this my child or not? I want to keep it real with you. I want to live better, eat better. I want to love better, sleep better. Yeah, I want to feel so aligned. Interesting. This is a good follow up. What is your favorite double standard? My favorite double standards has to do with sex. It's the fact that guys can go out and like do whatever they want. And it should be accepted by females. But the minute a girl sleeps with two guys, then she's labeled a home. Like, I think it's hilarious to me that we can praise guys on sexual liberation or just sexual promiscuity. And women are demonized for just having multiple like sex partners in their whole life. Why do you think that is? Like if you had to look at it holistically, why do you think that double standard exists? And why is it funny? To me, it's funny because like it's mostly the guys who have this idea of like you're a hoe. But then you look at their movements, it's like, if I'm a hoe based off of the standards that you're putting on me, why are you not considered a hoe? Like that's why I laugh at it. But I think it's more on the idea of like women are supposed to be pure, like you're supposed to be this idea of like Mary, if that makes sense, like this idea of like Mary was a virgin and you're this pure idol. So if you scape forward, like if you stray from that, then all of a sudden like you're wrong. But like guys, they don't have that like judgment on them. I don't know necessarily why. And I've heard a lot of guys not going to drop any names here who like to say that like it's a biological thing like, oh, we can do this because it's in in us like biologically to want to have multiple partners. But I'm like, you don't think we want to have multiple partners? Like that's how we sleep with more than just one person our whole life. Like if it was not innate to us too, we would literally just wait for that one person. Well, I mean, I think the reason the biological argument exists is because I think there's a lot of evidence that suggests that women are predisposed to want one guy. And when I say women, I don't just mean humans. I mean females in general, like in any animal species that congregate around one guy, the apex predator, the alpha male or whatever the case may be. So in women's fantasies, they're looking for one person to be their everything. Best case scenario. Is that true? I don't like that idea of comparing like humans to animals because there's a array of different animals. And if you look at, for example, the ant kingdom, there's one queen and a lot of men who are trying to have babies with her. So it's like, why are we choosing what animals we compare ourselves to when it validates our points? Because not all animal species operate on that basis. So if I am a woman, I want to really make my point across. I could be like, well, I'm the queen, queen bee or the queen ants or whatever. And I should be able to have a plethora of men that swarm towards me. But I think when they make the argument, they make it with animals that we are closely linked to from a genetic standpoint. And like ants and butterflies and shit, we're not really linked to. So I think when men make that argument, they're saying that in women's perfect world, they're looking for Superman. In men's perfect world, they're looking for a bunch of women. Like a man's fantasy is to be so successful that he gets a bunch of women. A woman's fantasy tends to be, and this is where like you can respond, tends to be that she becomes so desirable that she catches the eye of the king, the king or the prince. So is that is that true? Is that wrong? I mean, yeah, we all want hypergamy. I think that's the term, right? We all want to have the most successful partner. But I don't think it's necessarily like one person. I don't think we're looking at it as far as like he is or the king that is in his village is the only successful king that I want to go to. I think with that scenario, it's just proximity. Like, I know that this is a successful king. If I leave this village, I don't know if I'm gonna find another successful king. So with that, it's like, yeah, I want to have a successful man. I want him to take care of me. And I think that's the reason because women are looking to be taking care of men aren't. So you're looking for the male who is most equipped. And this is goes back to the animal kingdom argument, the most equipped to take care of you and your offspring. Multiple men can't do that. Because men are selfish with offspring. They're not going to take care of other people's kids. I know you don't have to take care of the other men's kids. It sounds good in theory, but like part of like you hear women all the time say that it's a package deal. But having multiple wives sounds good in theory until you have to deal with all their emotions. So I think theoretically like it all sounds good. But in reality, being able to confide in one person and open up to one person on both sides and like just have to deal with that person is more ideal than having to spread yourself then with multiple partners on either side. I agree. I guess the pushback was just that the reason why that double standard exists is because it comes it's informed by those things, the biology, the societal influences. So to see a woman go in the masculine direction is off putting. But also I think part of the issue too that we're not touching on but you could respond to is paternity fraud. There's never going to be a time in your life that you're unsure if your child is yours. That's never going to happen to you. Now a promiscuous woman threatens a man's safety in that way. Because if I go out and I sleep with whoever and come back with a child, you know it's not yours. You don't have any responsibility to the child. But you have cases with men raising children for 18, 20 years and later finding out it wasn't theirs. And I would I would want to like take that idea into like deeper consideration if paternity tests were not like true. Like me personally I think paternity tests should be mandatory at like childbirth like regardless of if you're married or whatever like just give it flat out. But if you want like I don't see why you can't just like do a paternity test like our technology has evolved so far now that you really don't have an excuse to say oh is this my child or not. And that's some of the pushback because the way that the laws are structured right now not pushback I'm sorry that's some of what men are complaining about because the way the laws are structured right now number one first of all the way society is structured asking a woman for a paternity test is similar to asking a woman for a prenup it's insulting it's like how dare you you're you're coming in in this with the wrong intentions you think it's gonna fail how dare you suspect me of that this and that and then the second piece is the way the family court system is set up men are getting screwed like some men are paying child support for kids for women that they didn't even have sex with yeah like so I guess obviously we know what all the female purity stuff is informed by but I think in the modern context that is part of the issue because the consequences are much higher if the woman is unfaithful then if the man is unfaithful and I guess the argument is a woman who is promiscuous in a masculine way is a threat to maybe do something like that thoughts I mean I can see that point of view I definitely can and I mean it's a fair argument for sure I was just having a conversation with some of my guy friends on the topic in general was about abortion and but it kind of stemmed into like males the male what's it called their authority or like how much power they really have when it comes to paternity of like the child like it really is left onto the woman's hands but then my argument was like if you know at the conception of a child it's left into her hands then it's in your hands to prevent whatever it's a come so like you should be hyper sensitive to making sure that you're not just out here being reckless to get whoever and whatever pregnant be use condoms like this is an uncommon like idea but get a vasectomy it's reversible I I agree with you 100 percent I think what makes that argument not hold water at some point is because it doesn't work both ways because you also have situations where the guy does want a child to but the woman doesn't so it's like the guy if somebody did a quote or whatever and was like the government is wanting to force men to be fathers but not forcing women to be mothers and that's part that's that's a whole another tangent about abortion and things like that but at the end of the day if the man wanted the child if the woman says no it's no if the man doesn't want the child the woman says yes it's yes and the argument is that part of what we're doing is taking away men's right to choose by providing it to women to choose just outright and I agree I do think it is unfair but I think the whole childbirth system in the whole childbirth process is unfair in general it's not weighted on demand like your your part is to put your semen in her and let it meet the egg after that you really don't have you're shaking your head no no after that you really don't have any more control of it you're not affected by anything over the after that so like she has to go through the childbirth itself which comes with complications she has to go through like the nine months of pregnancy which comes with complications and I don't think some guys really consider that aspect like it's not just about the child it's sometimes like a lot of times it's about her and like her burdens that she has to be her with this child so I've I'm not I've not had a kid but I have a lot of people around me now who are given birth because I'm at that age and I'm hearing their stories of not just like pregnancy but child delivery and like afterwards and it's so scary like now I'm realizing how scary childbirth and like that whole process is I'm hearing people say that they lost their hair some people said that they have like temporary blindness and I'm just like this happens just for having an egg meet a sperm like you don't think about that so I don't think the onus is on demand like after the semen so like unfortunately like it's not it's not weighted equally regardless and it can't be seen as equal you don't have the same consequences yeah and and and I think that is part of some people's arguments that men should be able to opt out of fatherhood because if women can opt out of motherhood why can't men opt out so instead of it just being men be careful who you put your nut in it's also women be careful of who you let nut in you I agree so you agree that that men should be able to say I don't want to be a father and going about his life um I know I'm gonna get kicked back on this but I don't think so I don't think so I don't think so let me let me let me elaborate on that I don't think he should just be able to say I I nutted in you I can just do whatever I don't want anything to do with this child I think if you don't want anything to do with a child emotionally like the least you can do because you did create this child is a financial like obligation so unfortunately like it took two to make the kid and now she has she has agreed that she's willing to take the burden of delivering the child going through postpartum going through whatever comes with childbirth and child rearing so I feel like but but again that that's and that's the point because we're saying we are willing to force men to be fathers but we're not gonna force women to do anything so maybe that way makes women a little bit more considerate or thoughtful with who they let or have sex with or let nut in them if if we have a system that says if he opts out of fatherhood you're on your own I feel like we already kind of happen no he has to pay so again it's like but the what what you're saying is valid about the postpartum and everything that comes with motherhood right and a woman should get to choose if she wants to bear that burden or not but on the financial part which is our burden to bear we don't get to choose why is that and our choice our choice is dependent on your choice but you had a choice too in the beginning but you could say that about the woman who let the deadbeat nut her yeah she also had a choice but again we're not penalizing her for her bad choice but we're penalizing the men for their bad choice in a similar situation yeah I'm and the only reason I think that argument is valid is because we I don't know if you would say white supremacy society whatever has created this narrative that women especially our black women are benevolent and just pure beings that only do bad because they were put in bad situations I don't think because of that a lot of women skirt accountability so in this universe it's also on you to be careful who you have sex with I don't think that's the case I think and we kind of had a conversation about this about when a guy has sex with a woman she's pregnant for nine months when a guy or when a girl has sex with a man and they have a child he can still get another girl pregnant so I think that it's a legal prevention of that like if you have that financial burden of taking care of this child you're not just out here putting your seat in everybody in anything because you have to kind of think twice like do I want to really have to pay for a thousand children but again that's only putting the onus on the guy if you know that you're not going to get any help you're going to be more careful about who puts their seat in you because just like you said it takes two but then what's the accountability on the guy well the accountability on the guy is right if he nuts in a girl you know I mean he has to potentially weigh if he's going to be a father or not the accountability on the woman is if she gets nut in by a guy she has to weigh is she going to raise a child by herself or not so now the guys who want to be fathers are more careful about who they pick they're not going to pick the girl who wants to abort the kid right the women who want to be mothers are going to be careful about the guys they pick the men who don't want to be fathers are going to be careful about the they're going to pick the women who don't want to be mothers because they're on the same page and vice versa so again i'm all about you know water finding its level because this it becomes problematic when person a wants to be a father person b doesn't want to be a mother we don't talk about that as much because most of the time it's person a wants to be a mother person b doesn't want to be a father you see what i'm saying so i want to see i want a situation that holds both sides accountable because this current system allows women to be absolved of all their sins because they bear the child for nine months some women are terrible mothers they still did the same nine months yeah i agree