 How has it been in terms of these climate change talks? Is there enough being done on including women and gender as a right? It's a slow burner. We've seen the gender agenda no longer being discussed as whether it should be center stage and rather how and what we need to do to take it to the next level. So we've succeeded in some ways. But in other ways, it's quite slow. When we got those suddenly very clear demands for women's involvement prominently again in these discussions, in the negotiations, and we were happy to see some of the gains of the Paris Agreement certainly. But we still have more now. We're moving to action and there's the NDC process and engaging women at that level, at the national level and ensuring that they're involved in the solutions that are picked to make sure that we get to the ambitions of our national determined contributions is really and equally important. So keeping women energized and engaged is going to be the next big thing. Absolutely. And what is your approach to getting women excited about this issue through your work? Well, the most important thing for us is evidence. You need to have strong enough evidence that makes the case for the prominence of women's engagement. We don't want handouts. Women want to be engaged because it makes sense for the achievement of the sustainable development goals because it makes sense for business. We want to make sure that we have this strong evidence that is making that case for the prominence of women's engagement. And then, of course, the value of women's engagement, not because it's just nice to do. So we want to make sure that that evidence is in place. It's a major pillar of the W Power Hub. And this idea of landscape restoration, you touched on it in the planter. Why has it gotten so much attention in your view and why is it important? Well, I think landscape restoration is, in many ways, the biggest response to the sustainable development goals. Four direct sustainable development goals are addressed. But I think even beyond that, it's multiple connections to almost all of them. Addressing the integrity of our landscapes is about addressing food security. It's about addressing water security, energy security. And with that, women's equality and the integrity of our landscapes also is about how we sustain life as we know it. We know that water and the systems like pollination and others that depend on healthy landscapes would be at threat. So I think landscape restoration is very quickly becoming one of the ways that climate action can be achieved at scale. And this is about scaling up. You have AFR 100, an initiative that was launched with NEPAD, the World Resources Institute, IUCN, an ambitious African initiative to restore 100 million hectares of land by 2030. This will not happen through siloed initiatives. It will be landscape scale work or mosaic of restoration of landscapes that are productive. Riverines and mountains, indigenous forests, and plantations as well, commercial plantations, but essentially ensuring the integrity of landscapes. And that's the most important thing, especially for the movement. And the same thing is going on in Latin America. We have these ambitious global targets with 20 by 20 in Latin America that is also responding to the Bond Challenge, 150 million hectares by 2020. And then, of course, the New York Forest Declaration that is mandating 350 million hectares by 2030. So we have some clear ambitious targets that we must begin to get granular about. And then, of course, now with the NDCs moving into action, how do those targets fit into our national priorities? What have you observed in terms of actually implementing this and translating to action on the ground? I'm heartened, certainly, by my own country, Kenya, which has probably one of the very first countries of those that have made commitments to AFR 100 to create a very clear plan of action. We launched just about a month ago the National Landscape Restoration Plan for Kenya. Shows very clearly how Kenya is going to achieve its 5 billion hectare target. And those are the sorts of commitments we need to start moving to the granular level, where are these 5 million hectares? What does it look like? It's rangelands, it's grasslands, it's waterways, it's wetlands, it's forests, it's commercial plantations, it's the whole mosaic of the landscape, the agroforestry systems. And this is really when the rubber begins to meet the road. And then, of course, we need to see, so how will this be achieved? You need cross interministerial collaboration and certainly we need the resources, funds that will fund this work and make it a reality.