 Hello hippies I were meant to write hello and wrote whole whole typeety type in the chat room All right, we got the Netflix stuff. You got any questions there V? Nope Don't think so expects to sign up. It's 100 millionth subscriber this weekend Is it you could it be you everyone starts canceling their Netflix subscription so they could sign up and be the hundred Yeah, it doesn't say they're giving up prizes or anything. No That's Netflix's way of trying to combat the fact that it missed expectations For subscribers Gonna have a lot of Facebook news tomorrow. Oh, yeah Do you think That they planned f8 the facebook developers conference To be the same week after the debut of fate of the furious I don't think so No, but you knew where I was going as soon as I started. Yes, because I already made that joke on twitter I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I wasn't trying to rip you off. I'm sorry. It's okay. Uh, credit Veronica bellow Yeah, 100 million opening weekend I'm feeling pretty good in the movie draft Oh, good. Is that your pick? It's one of them. Yeah I also have wonder woman Wonder woman and I had smurfs, but I only paid seven dollars for it So it wasn't that big of a deal people like oh smurfs tanks. I'm like, yeah, but I also didn't pay a lot so It's all right. It's all good Did it did underperform What did Uh smurfs, but if fate if fate overperforms as much as it looks like it's going to then I should be totally fine. Yeah Ethan Cain says didn't they give away lifetime dvd rentals to the one millionth subscriber? I don't recall If they did that and I wonder if that were true Is that person still receiving their dvds or did they stop like, you know, I don't even I still occasionally used to do dvd rentals when they didn't have stuff. Yeah On demand I I know this is what they wanted, but as soon as they split the two Uh subscriptions up I canceled my dvds immediately Just went to streaming and back then there were still people like streaming will never catch on there's not enough bandwidth Seems to be catching all right. Yeah, I don't think people I think people thought the Uh That coming up the dvd or separating initially was a little too Um jumping the gun Well, I know a lot of people wrote in two shows I was doing saying that that streaming service will never catch on people don't with data caps And bandwidth as slow as it is I'm like, I think that stuff will improve enough. It'll be fine. And guess what? I think I think it has All right, you guys ready sure Sure Yes Are you sure? All right, here we go Daily tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to daily tech news show dot com slash support This is the daily tech news for monday april 17th 2017. I'm tom merit and veronica belmont the bot take master Is in the house Hello, happy monday Happy monday veronica. Uh, we won't be talking about a bot topic this day Necessarily, but you are the bot zine author Working with bots. So if you ever have a question about bots emails send them on a tech news show dot com. Yeah We'd love to hear from them. We are going to talk about something that is a little unusual in the uk They are going to make people use Sat nav as they call it in their drivers test. Yeah Yeah, who knew hmm. Yeah, I didn't till today So we're going to talk about that. Let's start with a few tech things you should know A court in rome not this is an avatican thing as soon as I say a court in rome though For some reason I think of the pope Dude, I don't know why a court in rome has suspended a lower court ruling that would have prevented uber from using its apps And advertising its services in italy uber will be allowed to continue operating as normal until it is completed an appeal of the Band so they might still lose, but they don't have to stop down right yet Android police reports that twitter added support for code generators like google authenticator and athi as two factor Authentication options on twitter accounts You'll have to set up two factor authentication with sms first Then find a button for set up a code generator app And I didn't tell anybody about it and if you delete your phone number it stops working Oh, okay kind of weird Link and company svp. Elaine viscer says the company will offer a lifetime warranty and free internet connectivity on every vehicle Itselves link is owned by the same company that owns volvo and will begin selling its cars in china this year I I like this idea of a car with free lifetime internet I would like that as well. That is kind of a fancy deal. Yeah Instagram announced it will let users save bookmarks of instagram posts into private collections You can access collections from your profile and collections are available on ios and android as part of the instagram version 10.16 update So pinterest killer or not pinterest killer or a stocking tool or not stocking it is private So I can have all my all my handsome dog collections. Yes, and no one will know nobody will ever know So not a pinterest killer now. Here are some more top stories alphabet has reached an out-of-court settlement with russia's fas That's their it's like their sec It's over accusations of market position abuse russian search company yandex raised the complaints against google Saying it abused its market dominance by requiring certain applications to be installed on android google said well, you don't have to use our android You can go you make androids open source go put put it in russia said no You've got such a dominant position This is abuse So alphabet has agreed that google will allow rival search engines and apps to be pre-installed on phones running google's versions of android In russia Plus google will allow users to switch the default search engine in their version of android a russian court approved the deal monday Which will last for six years and nine months I think that's probably reasonable I I go back and forth on this I totally Sympathize with google's argument of it's an open source operating system All we're saying is if you want to have the word google on it You have to put the google apps in if you don't want the word google on it Then use an open source version of android and that doesn't have our apps on it But then I I also get the argument of sure But when 90 percent of the market is your version of android The other versions of android are essentially Not an option for someone. Uh, so that is uh an intense market position My question is will this end up affecting anything outside of russia will we will we see europe Probably the next likely destination for someone to push for this as well where there there are antitrust allegations against android being lodged there Yeah, and they say look at this case. This is how it went down there. I mean that happens quite often Yeah, and as a user I would love for google to say yes You can you can change the default search engine You can I mean android is already better than ios in my opinion in that respect that it allows you to change more defaults Yeah, that drives me crazy Stephen wang and a team of researchers at the university of nottingham have developed a machine learning algorithm That can predict your likelihood of having a heart attack or stroke as well as any doctor The algorithm used 295,000 records to learn predictive models then tested and refined its accuracy In a further 83,000 plus records. The algorithm results significantly outperformed the aaa and aha guidelines Ranging from 74.5 to 76.4 percent accuracy and beat the existing guidelines by 7.6 percent While raising 1.6 fewer false alarms It even identified risk factors not listed in existing guidelines So it's not a bot, but it's a little artificial intelligence out there and this is a A real benefit of using machine learning to diagnose Uh in a preventative way saying you are at a higher risk for a heart attack based on looking at people who have had heart disease And deciding like okay, these are the things that seem to indicate that this this is the promise of it Is that these machines will be better at figuring this stuff out because they just need to look at the data Yeah, and being able to to to go through so much data so quickly and being able to To change its its findings based on things it learns is is is super valuable And seeing those patterns that that we couldn't see as humans even as good at pattern recognition as we are Uh, that's that's pretty impressive. So I I think this is a fairly significant advance and one that I want to take advantage of I I want to put you know by my records through this machine and be like, you know Do you really want to know? I mean unless unless they tell you how to like prevent this stuff and Well, that's okay. Yeah, right. No, I do exactly if That would be the next step too is to say, okay I know what the guidelines are to prevent heart disease now that you've told me whether I'm at risk I mean some of those risk indicators can be changed like you're not exercising enough. Okay Well, I need to exercise more, but what else, you know, what diet changes can I make all of that sort of thing? Analysts for pacific crest securities wrote to investor sunday that apple may be having trouble with its new fingerprint sensor for the next iPhone the sensor is meant to be integrated At least this is the supposition apple hasn't confirmed any of this But the idea is that it would be integrated into a screen so that there's no physical button Disrupting what is expected to be an almost bezel-less front pacific crest says here's their quote At this point, we do not believe optical apples Apples optical fingerprint module provider has firm orders for production. So this is supply chain information They're saying we talked to the manufacturer. They don't have a firm order That leads the analysts to believe that apple does not have functionality of the optical fingerprint sensor ready Otherwise, they would have a firm order Additionally pacific crest says we believe apple has evaluated synaptics optical fingerprint solution, but that it has not been qualified No button Not even a single button Well, okay So the idea would be that you wouldn't miss it because you'd have the haptic feedback like you have now Because the one on the iphone 7s isn't actually how am I gonna know how to find it is not actually a button But it would be virtual so it would show up on the screen Like it does on android when you need it But it would feel like a button and have the fingerprint sensor It would feel like a button when you press it But if you're trying to find it on the phone, it's not going to signal You won't have a a divot or anything to tell you where the button is so you'd have to look right Yeah, and that's the thing like there's some situation. I don't know I'm already starting to get like You know bearish on on apple decisions on something we haven't even seen or learned anything about I know well, and I love that you're taking this as good news like good Good, I mean they keep a finger But then some people are saying they wouldn't they wouldn't have the fingerprint sensor at all in that case And use the whole screen some kind of 3d recognition or something Well, if the whole screen can sense your fingerprint and and know what it is and be able to I don't think that's an opportunity unfortunately. That's an even bigger fingerprint sensor Just make the whole thing a sensor just do that. Yeah, that doesn't sound expensive I don't know I this is a this is a reliable supply chain report And maybe it just means that apple is is holding off On ordering that sensor until they nail down a few things that it'll all turn out fine But you've seen a lot of scuttled it out there that the the the iphone edition or tenth anniversary edition Or whatever it ends up being called might be delayed too and this would explain those rumors as well Well, moving on after reviewing the alleged nsa hacking tools leaked last week Microsoft says all the vulnerabilities are patched in supported versions of windows that of course means of vulnerabilities that target windows X pure vista may not be as microsoft No may not be as microsoft no longer supports those versions of windows The verge is tom warren notes that microsoft delayed its february patch release and march's release included fixes for some of the leaked exploits So it really looks like somebody Whether it's the people who leaked these tools or whether it's the nsa getting wind of it ahead of time Somebody tipped microsoft off in february about these exploits Microsoft scrambled cancelled their february patch, which is unheard of and put all of those Or most of those fixes in the march patch ahead of these tools being leaks There's lots of crazy conspiracy theories about that But the good news is that microsoft was able to fix these before they were released And of course the the depressing news is that if you're still using uh windows x pure vista Not gonna help you out. Yeah, I mean xp and vista they said we're not doing security patches for them anymore You're on your own so this is an unusual situation where it's very public which Vulnerabilities actually exist, but man, there's so many other vulnerabilities for xp out there that are also unpatched I mean at a certain point you just don't patch older operating systems anymore. There's no patches for windows 98 anymore either I know I know Yeah, I feel like some of these have taken longer to move on from though Yeah, well vista and maybe not so much, uh, but windows 7 is going to be the interesting one People were people are still using windows xp that one. Come on. It was you know, that's that's 17 years old now But windows 7 has a lot of devotees in the enterprise So i'm curious how long it's going to take for them to finally stop that. Yeah supporting that Finally netflix added 1.42 million domestic subscribers and 3.53 million international subscribers in its last quarter And unfortunately as good as that might sound to you it missed netflix's own and wall streets expectations of 1.5 million so 1.42 to 1.5 and 3.7 million international to 3.53 is what they actually got It did beat expectations on the earnings side of 37 cents a share They ended up with 40 cents a share and netflix met expectations of 2.64 billion in revenue Netflix says it expects 600,000 domestic subscribers and 2.6 million international subscribers in the second quarter Which would bring it up over that hundred million subscriber mark and netflix even thinks they'll hit that mark this weekend Wow Do you get a prize? I wish right we were talking about that before the show Ethan kane in our chat room was like didn't they give the millionth subscriber like free dvds for life or something The hundred millionth subscriber ought to get something I can't imagine anything. I would want less than free dvds for life I know at this point, right? So what would be the equivalent of it now? Would you you want to like get written into stranger things? No, I would just want I would just I would just take free netflix for life Free netflix for life never had to pay for it. Yeah. Yeah, I think I'd be okay with that easy enough to do They could probably give that to like a hundred thousand people and it wouldn't affect them that much So you've got to give it to one at that point at least one. Yeah You know the other side of this story is that netflix had a better than expected subscriber growth Last quarter and that shot their stock up and everybody's panics over netflix subscriber growth these days It didn't miss by a lot, but it didn't miss and so now the inevitable questions will be raised again Can netflix continue its growth? Can it afford the billions of dollars it's spending on original content? Is it really going to pay off? I've started to see netflix being compared to amazon as a low margin Company that that just keeps investing all of its money in the future And they're doing a great job overall Well, folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in less than five minutes You can subscribe to our other show It's kind of like a pairing like an appetizer of daily tech headlines in the morning And then a meaty discussion on daily tech news show in the afternoon That other show is daily tech headlines daily tech headlines dot com So the uk's driver and vehicle standards agency has confirmed that starting december 4th Drivers will need to demonstrate the ability to follow a navigation device as part of the driving test Now you won't need to bring your own device You've in fact you have to use the one that they provide in the test car You don't have to you're not getting tested on setting it up either the the tester the examiner will set it up for you And it won't matter if you go the wrong way This is another part of this farotica if you if it tells you to turn right and you turn left You won't fail your test. You won't get dinged. You'll only Get dinged if you make a fault While doing it So if the nav device is turn right and you go left as long as you signal to turn left and make the left turn safely You're fine What they're trying to do Is see how drivers and I quote manage and prioritize distractions, which may include directions from a sat nav To me this makes perfect and obvious sense I mean, we are well beyond the point where we we don't have to think about things Like I we have to think about things like gps or sat nav as they call it, you know, uh connected devices in your car uh Giant video screens in the center console like on the tesla like potentially popping up information all the time Yeah, no even something as easy as changing the radio station can cause people to be distracted enough to cause an accident I know it has happened to me in my life The only accident I ever caused was because I was changing the radio and didn't see a light a light change And that was on me And I was 16, but still like I you know, you need to learn these these rules About how to handle an automobile and you know, you should always be paying attention But sometimes things are going to pop up that make you distracted now A lot I this brings up all the old chestnuts, right? Like oh So now you're going to test me by having babies in the back and and the kids who are yelling at me and throwing food I'm like, you know, okay fair enough You can't test for every distraction, but does that mean you shouldn't test for any distractions? At first when I saw this story, I thought this was amusing and I could see where people would think it's stupid Then but then when I realized, okay, they're not testing your ability to follow the nav they're trying to introduce a bit of Of of the normal testing behavior without endangering you, right? So yeah, having someone in the back while you're taking your driver's test like throwing stuff at you is probably not a good idea, but having a sat nav that you have to pay attention to Is a is a good and and legal Way to say, okay, let's let's have a more natural test environment Let's put some distractions in here that you would normally encounter while you're driving And I think it's good too because they they don't fall to you for not following the navigation perfectly Because oftentimes something that does happen to a lot of people is if they miss a turn With the with the sat nav They get flustered and they do stupid things to try to get back on the path But it's much smarter to just, you know, continue driving safely The sat nav will figure out what you're supposed to be doing and reroute you So it's not a big deal. It's not something to like freak out over But I think a lot of people do get a little like, oh, I gotta fix it I gotta do something stupid to get back on the path that it told me to do No, this is good. I I think In this world where we have way more distractions in the car Because of phones in particular than we've ever had before You you want to introduce a little bit of that in the test So I've actually done a flip on this since this morning when I first saw it and thought it was silly To thinking it's maybe actually kind of genius like a good way of doing it And maybe they should make you skip a song in a playlist while you're driving too stuff like that Yeah, I mean, I think you should be tested every 10 years, frankly Uh, I don't know about that now that that's an unpopular opinion. Yeah, I think I think that's exactly why Call me in 10 years Belmont We won't be we'll have autonomous vehicles. I'll have my my robotic lift picking me up We won't need to think about this in 10 years, hopefully when I get to the point where I don't feel comfortable driving anymore I want I want autonomous cars to be ready to take over. Absolutely. I mean that is a huge I'm just off topic, but that is a huge benefit for accessibility Like being able to have you know, not only autonomous vehicles But just regular lift and uber cars around that can get people where they need to go They really need to fix some of their issues with like drivers not accepting guide dogs I've known I know they've put rules in place for that kind of stuff or you know having more vehicles available for wheelchair users Um, but I think they're trying to make an effort in that area. Yeah, and and and this sort of thing uh, can Can open up the world in a in a way that I don't think people understand an unbelievable difference in people's lives Especially and I know many of you just drive every day and so you're like, oh, it'd be nice It would be nice It it could mean the difference between actually getting things done and not to a lot. Yeah Yeah Because you you when you can't get around on your own you have to plan a lot more And if suddenly you have the same convenience that people who have sight and are allowed to drive have You can just go do things Anytime you want Yeah, to a way lesser extent like when I broke my wrist an ankle and I couldn't drive and I you know even for for several months I mean, I don't know what I would have done without having those kinds of services to to get me around And that's just a taste, right? Yeah. Yeah, just sort of like a really small taste of what other people go through every single day of their lives Uh, well, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit keep these topics coming So make your stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com I got a few messages to get to today. Uh, first of all from a carl cornell. Hi roger. Oh and tom too Roger's got a fan In episode 3007 in the context of microsoft's edu announcement that they've scheduled Upcoming you talked about microsoft wanting to get people using their products as early as possible I work at stanford and we are one of the many universities using office 365 including for students The office 365 license gives everyone rights to install office or computers tablets and smartphones But once you graduate those rights eventually expire with office 365 You are periodically asked to revalidate your the rights typically by logging in through your institution The solution is to search for your institution software download store This might be an outside company, but your institution probably has a way to get free or highly discounted microsoft software that will not expire when you graduate It's typically just one license per student, but it's still worth the price The easiest way to get more information is to do a web search for your institution's name followed by the word microsoft And then look through the links, uh, not just the first couple of results, uh for one that that looks like it's correct But good tip there carl. Thank you for that Yeah, that's great Well, I just installed some software and I found out that I have to renew the license every year for $99 Ah, I was like, what? Well, I mean that's kind of close to what office is So it is it that important? Of well, I is not as important as office for sure Open office doesn't require you to pay anything. That's true. It's also terrible Joe from dc writes I came back to dc and saw the postmates robot on 14th street northwest near where I live Crossing the street with quite a few pedestrians It was interesting to see how people seem to move out of its way as it made its way across the street I'm not sure if people have gotten used to it on 14th street northwest as I just came back to dc after a month away But there didn't seem to be as much reaction to it as I would have expected Of course, I had to stop and take a picture with my phone I thought I would share a picture on a robot on break with its handler joe and dc I will have it in the video version. Of course the link to it in the show notes for you guys on audio Uh, but it is it is kind of funny because you see one person looking at the robot in his picture And then everyone else on the street doesn't even seem to know it's there Uh, it's just uh, it's funny that these are the star robots from the estonian company That are out now just rolling around and it's it is crazy how a quickly people get used to this sort of thing and b People just sort of realize well if it's there must be must be normal. It must be fine. Must be normal I'm not going to react to it. This is my life now. Yeah, exactly Uh bill berlin game at huntsville alabama wrote in with the description of the choices that they have in huntsville He says he's lucky enough to have a few different choices of cable services Um, for instance, he has comcast, but there was a company called wow came to his door The problem he says is the amount of work involved for me to change providers I have static addresses set up for many devices a silicon dust hd homerun cable card unit nine ip security cameras htpc home theater pc I've built up my system in a piecemeal fashion going back to the compu serve dial up days I have switches feeding into other switches and I recently took pictures and wrote a word document about what I have and Shared it with my kids in case something should happen to me. I've lived in the house since 1980 The other problem a two-year contract with a stiff early cancellation fee at my age 81 It's risky to buy green bananas He's not gonna do that Uh, but yeah, I mean both both the idea of like two years is too long When your bill's age, I think bill's gonna last a long time. Uh, he seems to be super sharp We hear from him quite often. I'm appreciative of that But also this idea of like yeah, if you have a complex setup that relies on ip addresses It's not that you can't change it, but the idea of having to change it just might make you go. You know, I don't want to mess with it Rich writes in and says I loved the discussion on ryzen from friday for something like a cpu architecture It's rare to get a lived in review perspective The other exciting thing about ryzen is that it marks a return of amd as being competitive in the data center Their naples platform is competitive with intel at all But the very high end with up to 64 cores 128 threads and most importantly 128 pc i e lanes for i o in a typical two socket server at their peak in the mid Amd had 10 of the server market and was the backbone of many supercomputers I'm hoping they bring some much needed competition to the space. Well, and when I was talking to uh, uh, Lloyd on friday about this, you know, I was saying well, is this going to be enough? Or do they need to jump in the internet of things? You know this this could be the future is for them to capture that side of the market where you wait Who did you have on Lloyd case? Oh, I haven't seen Lloyd in a long time. He's a good guy. Yeah, you should come on on friday Yeah, is he on every friday? No, he's not on every friday. You should come on last friday. You'll need a time machine, but Yeah Uh, yeah, we'll have Lloyd back on maybe we'll try to get him on on a monday uh and talk about this stuff But yeah, Lloyd's great, uh, and and we had a good conversation about this But yeah, maybe maybe data center is is definitely the future. Thank you rich And thank you Veronica Belmont Bot zine is the thing that I just subscribed to finally because I'm making you email them every and then I realized, you know, That's silly. I can automate this process emailed to me like a bot So I I subscribe just in time to get today's issue which has all kinds of cool things in it like, you know fantasizing about voice assistants as your friends or more lovers Yeah Uh lots of other stuff, how do people find the bot zine and subscribe you can head to bot zine.org That's all you gotta do plug in your email address and I will send you a newsletter every week What else is going on that you want to tell folks about? Um, let's see I don't know Tom. I never prepare for this segment You can check out the project that I work on day to day at robot.io and you can listen to sordin laser at sordinlaser.com You know sordin laser just put out a new book. It's a sci-fi book about a time traveler called pilot x It's on the sordin laser imprint getting rave reviews. 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What do we call this? A tb. Oh a show a show a show for the ages. You must be at least this tech savvy to drive That's what you did followed by mother-in-law backseat back seating driving test. Okay. Okay. Um, dr. Botte All right, because the ai got it Microsoft there wasn't a lot in fact. There's only like think seven or no Microsoft hack the nsa hack of microsoft Welcoming the driving test to 2005 recalculating uk driving tests dmv is to gps and nsa is to m to mst mst Microsoft Well, uh her bot zine That was the last one but even came her bot zine You must be at least this tech savvy to drive Yeah, I liked that one. That's one I clicked on I already voted for that. It's a pretty british What is I would say because um, at least for their for the black Taxi caps don't they have to pass like a really rigorous Test of the streets of london. They have to memorize it. Yes, and I'm just saying it's That they said a very good thing What you're giving me a very skeptical like I'm a little skeptical if that's really if this story is particularly british for That reason Yeah, I don't buy it Well, it's okay I don't you're not my customers You're not my clients. I don't have to make you happy Uh Well, you know, I get what you're saying about the the london cap thing but the reason I'm skeptical is because you don't have to Follow the directions if they were testing you on your ability, then it would be closer to me Um You must be at least this tech savvy to drive Sounds good. Have you also have different ratings for automatics and sticks? Oh, yeah, we don't do that. Do we no you could derive a stick with an auto by taking your test with an automatic here Yeah, which doesn't seem like a smart idea That doesn't matter. It's all going away. Yeah, it's exactly I really just want to just get in the car and have it drive so I can do something else like snooze I mean carbony is looking jacked these days Wait, what where did that come from? Oh Muscles Oh, I need to uh, I need to meet up with him. He lives like he lives like five minutes away for me Oh, that's fine Carbony Anthony carbony. Oh carbony got jacked out. Nice Man, like he's all buffed kind of thing Yeah That's just from holding that mic up all weekend for star wars celebration. Yeah Okay, I gotta go to work. All right. All right. See you guys later. Bye. Bye Is there another picture of him that's I'm trying to see what like did he flex or something in the in the window I don't know what she was looking at Like I don't see anything that I mean not to say that he's He's out of shape or anything He's always been pretty he's always been a very fit guy. Yeah, exactly I don't know Yeah, I need to meet up with Yeah, bryantong lives up around your I don't care about that. Oh, please. That's not nice Actually, the thing is I actually never worked with bryantong. I only know him through you Oh, yeah, that's true. I forget who knows who It's like the way people used to Assume or maybe they still do that Veronica came from tech TV tech TV where she did not But she worked with enough of us later that it almost feels like it The only one I really can like who do I keep in touch with back at sea net Back at sea net. Who do you like from that that I knew from working at sea net And I that's still there. I don't know no Just like keeping in touch just like on a regular friendly basis Like people, you know, like people like who do I like I know you from tech TV and I still keep up you and patrick Uh Josh Is for me. I know you I know that's not somebody you worked with there Uh, but I still keep in touch with molly Veronica and Veronica. Veronica is probably the only one But you kind of knew her more for I Didn't touch with Michael chang is the only other one because they used to get confused with them Yeah, and then there's roger chang which I don't think you've ever worked with I've never met him but people for the longest time Sure That one's understandable though, they're very close um Yeah, it's weird like uh And then most of the other stuff is from dl tv or rev 3 to Like I still keep up with any Still keep up with uh With uh crap, I don't remember her name Serfina so bad so bad Serfina Here's the jackie. I don't gape contacted me about something For an nvidia if I wanted to come up Well, I have to tell him I can't because I'll be at the I need to go to the hospital on wednesday For another test same thing as today. I'll be around I already talked about all the tv shows Um, yeah, I gotta catch up with dr I missed out on the the last One because uh, it's on amazon but I didn't want to buy it You know Even though they let you watch all the previous stuff free I guess that was one of the things they were doing And they've been watching a lot of the amazon pilots I just watch wait. You're an amazon prime subscriber though, right? Yeah, you say free You well, yeah that I mean like I can watch as part of the prime subscription Yeah, so they have the back catalog of dr. Who but not the current seasons. Exactly. Yeah um, I just started on uh watching their pilot of uh The legend of master legend Which is really interesting Uh master legend is a real life superhero Rlsh It's kind of a thing in certain parts of the country Where people kind of act like superheroes like they actually dress up and everything Oh, so it's like a documentary series So there was a bunch of documentaries made about that entire movement over the past eight years And he's been a prominent feature because he's like one of the more well-known characters But amazon commissioned a pilot based on him That one guy the real life guy. So is he playing himself? No, it's not but it's just based on his story Except that it takes place in an entirely different city vegas instead of you live the actual guy lives out somewhere in florida Uh, but this one takes place in vegas. So i'm watching it because i'm like really fascinated because it's very, um circular in a way content-wise Or uh plot-wise Well, that's interesting Uh I do you coup No, there's a dove right outside my window won't shut up It's very annoying Ah, I see You know, I didn't realize and I just kind of assumed that doves are just all over the place or pigeons but uh They are they are the descendants of the birds that were brought over by are we colonialists? Oh, you mean their pigeons are not native to north america? Yeah, they are well i'm sure some form of pigeon or dove but Not the ones we see in cities those are brought over They're european invaders much like ourselves and honeybees and earthworms and horses Well, not all those are european, I guess we're invaders from outside the continent. I'm not an invader. I'm just leveraging the invasion We're still invading am I i'm just taking the spot of it Oh, i'll get very complicated Leveraging the invasion Uh striking rich asks in the chat room Is the dove crying and I don't know isn't that what people just call what doesn't sound like when doves cry It goes coup coup. Is that right? It's like I just want to punch it I mean, it's probably not good luck to punch a dove right isn't that bad thing No Or is that just an albatross you're not supposed to mess with albatross or goonie birds zeal the salted Sailors are albatrosses. Yeah, I know that Because they're really ungainly on land if you ever see them they just kind of They look they look like they're drunk a little bit just because they're just you know, they're goonie Well, they're designed to glide for very long distances and that doesn't make for the best Two-legged walking profile. I see It's a goonie bird, right make sure goonie bird Yep another term for an albatross of the north pacific albatross Oh, I forgot they have eyeliner These birds have guy liner. It's weird Our bird liner I guess bird liner. Yeah And I guess they're guys They're kind of goofy looking they look very uh, non-threatening Like very non-threatening animals I think koala bears are probably like the only other well, maybe a wombat. Wombats look pretty non-threatening too They just look like koala bears that are on the ground and And slightly elongated with smaller ears and a broader head So basically not like a koala at all Netflix so netflix has had a turnings call now and the verge says uh with the headline netflix accuses its users of watching 500 million hours of adam sandler films He is the one thing that rolled out of snl in the 90s that I I think was not such the best thing I don't know I like some adam sandler stuff. I think it gets a undeserved bad rap, but I can't think of I can't I'm trying to think of any movie I willingly sat through Uh of his I even tried watching the wedding center singer and I just I like Oh, yeah, the wedding singer's good. You didn't like it No Then he did little nicky and I didn't understand the point of that one like tim far or tim farley, uh What's his name? Not tim. What's his name? Who is an actor you like? From snl Yeah, sure from snl phil hartman rest in peace Yeah, phil hartman bill murray is the top bill murray has Has become a national treasure. I think that's I think that's awesome because I feel like bill murray got a bad rap back in the stripes days Did he I thought I knew striped there were lots of people who liked it But it was it was a lot of people looked down on it. Oh, he makes those dumb humor movies Uh, and he he kind of proved them all wrong by saying yeah I can I can make funny movies or I can make real serious movies Well, the the one I thought that I always liked A lot outside of like ghostbusters is great, but it's also great because it's an ensemble comedic cast but was um What was it? Uh, I did not go for day groundhog day groundhog day That was really good. Like it was he was did a really good range. I was I was really well And it was it was a well done movie beyond him Which helps too, right? Like an actor an actor like bill murray can't save garfield. Let's put it that way. No but um He did a great voice though. I did a great voice. Um He I this is another movie got paid for but I still love and I don't know. I'm just a freak I guess but it's life aquatic that was uh, what's interesting. I always want to say what's great what's interesting I Really love that movie and I just everyone pans it and I think it's one of those funny people say they like that movie Who pans it? Well, it's always considered to be one of the less the less Yeah, I mean part of that I wonder is that it was an earlier west anderson movie and so Later later west anderson movies were better because he because west anderson's just you know What was the one better as you do with things longer and so That doesn't mean life of products bad though. Uh Uh, let me see. Wait. Wait. Um, what was the Uh, what was the gene hackman one that uh second one the tannin bombs Oh, yeah, royal tannin bombs. I actually thought life of chronic was At least in my mind a lot Funnier like dry like really dry humor Then the royal tannin bombs are like both pretty damn good though. I did not like the dark Was it the dar genley express? Oh, yeah I like that one fine. I didn't like it as much as the others though. You're right It didn't didn't have the same although. I like moonlight kingdom moonlight kingdom's good and uh hotel Budapest I haven't seen that one. That's the latest one, right? I haven't seen that one I don't know if it's the latest or the one before the latest, but yeah, the lawson transition, you know That's not west anderson. We're shifting to other bill Murray movies Yeah, uh, no, but sorry bio cow brought that up in the chat room lawson translation as a good bill murray I love that movie. Uh, it does not seem to wear as well for me with age You know when I we rewatched it before we went to japan last year And there were parts that I used to think were genius there I'm like, well, okay, maybe maybe not as genius as I thought but just has such a great mood to it And I think bill murray's and scarlet johans's performances both are fantastic I think they were really good I thought they were fantastic in it the problem I have with that Problem I have with that movie is you're like has a great mood great feeling to it But it really didn't have a story Yeah, I don't necessarily that's not a problem for me. Uh, if if it's got enough of a of a through line I don't need a strong plot and I get I you know, it's funny like I think I think a lot about The current situation of people telling each other they're wrong for not liking the same things and I I I've been thinking recently like I wonder if Some of the people who I disagree with on let's say a movie or tv show Are people who value plot over other things? Uh Where I I like a good plot You know, and I think that makes a better movie when you have a strong plot But it isn't essential and I think some people if you don't have a strong plot they're like forget it. It's a bad movie And that's fine. It's bad for them, but that doesn't make it a bad movie. It's To me It's like it's like going to a restaurant and saying I only like chicken and I'm only going to judge this restaurant on its chicken And someone's else is like, you know what as long as the food's okay I'm going to judge it on the decor and then they both have a different You know, they have a different opinion on the restaurant, right? You know, and it's weird because I mean I really enjoy parts of that movie Like there's bits of it and that was the time when I was there And I was like the odd man out because I didn't understand anything that was going on It had to be filtered for me. Yeah, but It's it felt like it was a it could have been the moot that you could have had the same movie in half the time Like yeah, well again if if you're cutting it down to Story you're totally right. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's it's for me. It's yeah I I grade on all these of these things Well, I think that's fair I think what the conversation has to shift for the things that are important for me are these and this didn't meet those Needs Versus that's a bad movie I'm like, okay. Yeah, I know that's shorter and easier to say and that was fine when we all sort of understood like Oh when he says that's a bad movie He means I think it's a bad movie, but lately the conversations in public have turned to that's a bad movie Period objectively speaking and if you disagree, you're wrong. I'm like, come on. That's Yeah, I'm not talking about physics here. We're talking about opinions. Um, I mean, that's the thing I have like Pacific Pacific Rim I think it's just kind of a meh movie, but everyone loves it. I loved it Exactly like for me. I don't mind that you think it was Matt like I can totally understand that Do you it's all it's all about your experience like stories books tv shows movies There's a bell curve of objectivity On where like on one end all of us can agree they're good on one end all of us can agree they're bad But most of them aren't on those ends Most of them are in the middle and in the middle It's all What you bring to it what you expect and what you enjoy and that's different for every person And it's you know, I have I have movies that like are my guilty pleasures because I enjoy them Even though they're not the most cerebral or like, oh, yeah, I watch I love hell comes to frog town Right. It's it's it's stuff like that like really schlocky movies that I that I really enjoy but I also like like, uh Some incredibly Have you ever seen world under a night world a world at night? It's a it's an anthology movie And remember the world at night the world at night Is it jim jarmusch? Maybe the world at night or night. I'm trying to remember night on earth. Yes. That's it jim jarmusch. Yes. I have seen that Yeah, I love that movie. I love it because they're they're it's it's what I find so fascinating is it's such a it's such a great Snapshot of people in the same profession or doing the same ones, but just a vastly Interesting and incredibly compelling like viewscape on each of those people I think it's funny goes from funny to sad to just the run of the mill you know generic to To to frightening and to to heartwarming. So it's it's it's really good. I just yeah No, I like that too, but if someone said oh, I hated that movie. They wouldn't be wrong And I would punch them. I would punch them. No, you wouldn't punch them. You would say that's fine That's your your opinion to borrow phrase from a friend of mine. I would punch them through the internet. Oh stop That's the problem. You're part of the problem now my These hammers used to be funny in the 90s. It's not funny anymore I disagree with you. That's okay. All right. Uh, thanks everybody for watching. We're gonna head out of here now I hope you have a lovely afternoon or not. Maybe you don't want a lovely afternoon. That's fine We'll talk to you later