 One, two, shoot. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. We're going to let youth go before beauty. Ha-ha. We're here in fleeting time. Worked two years for this movie. It's going to go off. We sold out two shows. Can't wait. It's going to be a great night. Ben Oregon's favorite song, Ben. There was maybe one before this. But I definitely robbed this one when I was just a little guy. I was like six years old when I first trapped him for the first time. So we'd go up on the weekends with the mom and my brothers. And it turned into this like big family bonding thing. Then once we got a little bit older, started like taking a little more serious, started doing contests. I think I did my first contest. I was like eight years old. The first time I had ever learned of who Ben Ferguson was was by actually watching the Burton Smalls video that had come out. It was just so funny to see him ride and he has this big goofy smile and you could just tell he loves snowboarding. Started off like USA SA contest. Had like some success when I was super young and then you get a little bit older and you kind of get lost. And then eventually I hit a little girl's spurt, went through puberty and started like actually being good at like riding halfpipe and going big and kind of like fell in love with it as well. Ben Kamen Ferguson. What can he do? He just showed his mom, Jen, cheering him on. Ben's shift, he's over that side. I think I had been out at X-Games shooting for Snowboarder Mag and Ben podiumed in one of the pipe events. And then I get a call from Travis Rice about coming out to film with him and I'm tripping. I was invited to go film for the fourth phase. Up into that time, like it was that's it, that's all. And the art of flight, I was for like 20, 19, something like that. Like, you know, like I'm a pretty young kid. And then it's like, okay, now's your time to show up, like get yourself a snowmobile and get yourself to Jackson Hole. I remember calling him up, ringing him and he was, I think he was just going into X-Games. You know, I was like dude, do X and then get your ass to Jackson, ASAP right after the contest. Ben and I hadn't slept really at all. Maybe an hour or two max. The spot we're going just happens to also be one of like the most burly entrances into the back country where you have to do like multiple super aggressive hill climbs. I remember Ben just dropping in and cracking like a beautiful method. And that kind of set them depressive for the next three weeks. I had reception up at the ridge and I know Ben's parents were worried about him. I don't think I ever told him this but I called his dad from the ridge and was like, he's good. He got his first shot. We're ready to go. And his dad was mad relieved. I ended up staying on that crew for a couple weeks and filming some stuff. I was super stoked to film and given the opportunity to learn from the best and be a part of a pretty huge production. That month was like the first time we really got to spend ample time in the back country together. I mean he showed up, like some of the clips he got for fourth phase still, I mean still completely A plus worthy. The time I spent filming with Travis for the fourth phase was an insane learning experience and kind of like a baptism by fire into what back country snowboarding is. Being around Travis and seeing the way he operates definitely learned like just how to bust ass honestly. Like how to just put your head down and grind and like if you want something to happen you can make it happen. It's just how much effort you want to put in. And that was a real takeaway from like being out there with those guys. I think he was really impactful for Ben's career to sort of show up in that sense. Following that he had for sure in the respect of Travis and that crew and was clearly going to move forward into more projects with that type of caliber attached to them. For me I don't think I process my decisions that hard. I just think like this is what I want to do I'm going to go do that. I did kind of stop competing that being the only thing I did and was ready to like move on and learn a bunch about filming in the back country and doing that whole thing. Joy was right after the Olympics for me and I had never really dedicated 100% of my time to a snowboard film yet so this was like the first one that I was going to do. So coming into joy there definitely was a lot of pressure like I'm doing a project with two of the best snowboarders in the world like Red Gerard and Sage Kotzenberg. We were in Jackson Hole in Travis's little dojo. There's a bunch of big scary jumps out there and me and Sage were kind of on a little bit of a war path and I think it kind of started as a joke. We were like should we go walk up there and check out that jump ravine gap and we were kind of standing on top of it and I don't know maybe it was more out of like ignorance and not really like knowing how gnarly that thing was actually going to be busted ass building the thing and then once you build the thing you're not going to hit it. So we ended up hitting it and Sage got a trick and then he just started lapping me and I was on a full like battle to land this front 1080 and finally got it and sometimes when you watch that stuff on footage it doesn't really like translate as well but being there in the moment I know for myself hitting it that was like one of the craziest jumps I've ever hit to this day. It was gnarly but we did it and we filmed some amazing stuff I think and made a great movie. There's a couple underlying themes there that kind of go along with the vibe of fleeting time. One is like take advantage of your time you know the clock is always ticking time is a hard thing for people to even define all you have is time but it's passing by so use it wisely. I think this two year movie that Ben's been working on for fleeting time has been a massive part a lot of work has gone into it big movies like that aren't really happening as much anymore in snowboarding just takes the right person to be able to make their own film. It takes so much to be ringleader. What I wanted to make was a snowboard movie like the ones that I grew up watching you wanted to get nostalgic in a way and I think the way to do that is to look at those projects that you were you know inspired by and try to emulate that and try to hold it to the same standards that those dudes film in those movies help themselves too. We filmed the whole first year for fleeting time and I definitely did it when we were filming I think it was in Jackson Hole before the first natural selection contest I definitely messed my knee up and then rode on it all year got it checked out at the end of the year and the surgeon is like you got to fix it now otherwise it's just going to get worse. It was like August and I got the surgery was on crutches for six weeks being on the sidelines for that long not being able to walk for that long and then thinking about like getting back into it and what that was going to take like I was willing to put the work in and that's all I focused on but it was like pretty nerve-wracking and I knew I had this two year project and I was just in the middle of it and I had to like continue to bust ass for this next year to like really drive me into like getting healthy and getting ready for the winter. Awesome. I think without this jump we'd be kind of hurting for you know some of that heavier content that you want to live in a snowboard movie. We had the whole crew, the whole crew helped build it which is amazing like when you got a crew that'll dig for you that's key like you need that for me like I did a trick on this that I had never done before and straight up Red like coached me through it he was yelling flip it while I'm flying through the air and it ended up working and I landed on my feet and I don't know it was an awesome session What's it like having your name on a full feature? Having your name on a full feature is a little stressful honestly this is my movie like I kind of got to step up and I kind of got to take responsibility and I got to work hard to make this thing good because otherwise like what are you doing?