 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E-CEO and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official Mr. Mako, what's going on? None of them. Man, hey man, we got a special guest here today man, this guy here don't need no introduction man, y'all been seeing him, y'all done seen him a few times man, some bangers man, I've been checking them out too man, went down that rabbit hole to find out who this guy was, really found him before he found me for show man, hey, my boy Ty Harris is in the building, what's going on? What's happening? What's happening? Hey man, good to see you man, good to have you on the show. All good, all good. Man, so yeah, yeah, you do a lot of things man, hey that piano game is serious too. Yeah man, that's starting to become one of my things that we do, you know, I just get up there and I start doing all kind of classic Dallas hits, I'm probably trying to expand or some, you know, Texas Houston, I might go to Houston a little bit on the piano, you know, I might go back there, we gonna see. Have you always done that as a child growing up? You know, not really. How old were you when you started? I really been doing this seriously on the piano for about six months. Six months? Like six months? Uh uh. Okay, that's seriously, but when did you first like touch a piano? Touch a piano. I mean of course like church, you know, you go to church and you see like your uncle brother Franklin on the organ and you go over there and touch it and then, you know, whatever. I think the first thing I really like learned how to do was probably like the Halloween theme song, but that's like three notes, you know what I'm saying. How old were you? I can't even know, but like seriously doing this piano stuff, six months for show. I used to hit that thing, that's all I got, that's what I got. But see I've always liked like classical music, I always liked different kind of music, so you know, I guess the kind of musicality just come natural. Where did you get it from, like trickle down from like your mom, your dad? Uh, probably, my family, my family like musically inclined, you know what I'm saying, but not like, not playing the like instruments and stuff. Nobody else in your family play instruments? My uncle, like I said, my uncle, he married into the family, he was on that organ, that church and then, you know, my pop hall, they was singing quartet, you know what I'm saying. That's about it. My brother, he was a music producer. My daddy, you know. Okay, so it's in the blood? Yeah, musically inclined, you know, but as far as niggas just walking in and just playing now. So let's go back a little bit. Let's get you an old clip. Yes sir. Morning Ray. Yes sir. What part is you in over there? Redbird and Hampton. Redbird and Hampton. Redbird and Hampton. I saw the 67. Redbird and Hampton. Good side of Oakley. I like that. That's Fat Pimple on that side. Fat Pimple, Camp Wisdom. Okay, yeah, yeah. Fat Pimple, Camp Wisdom and Polk, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We bought it all, two, three, two, you know. Okay. See Struggs over there under. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, man. All right, Peter, see Struggs, man. Yeah, that was my dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love his flow, man. It's another cat I'm listening to now kind of remind me of his flow. I don't know the big dude's name. He out of Pleasant Grove. Out of Pleasant Grove? I showed him to me yesterday. What's his name? BDX Club. Yeah, BDX Club. BDX Club. You have to check them out. I'm going to check them out. I'm going to check them out. Big X, yeah. I'm going to check them out. Shout out Big X Club. That's some big shoes to feel. You talked about some Struggs, man. That was my dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got a lot of work to do, but everybody got to start. They say evolution, right? Right. So you definitely want to let people win. When you train in somebody how to do something, you let them win. They become more better as you let them win, you know. Right on, right on. You keep them stirring, but you let them win. Right on, right on. Without that endubit, you know. So coming up, what did you go to school at? I went to Atwell. Atwell? I went to Carter High School. Oh, you went to Carter? Yeah, David W. Oh, man. That school got a reputation. Yes, it does. What's the reputation? I don't know about the reputation. Well, it's done had a lot of different things. Some of them kids went to jail back in the days. I remember. I like to leave with good stuff. No, no, no. They had a football team or something. I seen it on TV. It was a big deal. We've been on TV. We've been on TV. You said leave with a good stuff. We had all the movies. The Friday Night Lights and all that. He'd leave all the good stuff. We had a great athlete program, you know. We had a great program, you know. Some cold rappers come out of there too. So bad. We've had our problems, you know. We've had our... Just like any other school. Yeah, but, you know, they say them boys then got caught up, you know, with more robberies than Bonnie and Clyde. I remember the movie. The movie went on. And, you know, I had some of my partners, they daddies, is in it. So I don't really be liking them. Because when you really from them... From them... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still got to go back home with that shit you was talking about. You know, we all like... You know, come on. That's real, man. Yeah, man. So I got them boys though, man. Just a mistake of fucking a road, you know. Yeah, so you had some bangers, man. You go all the way back, man. Big and complete. All kind of stuff that you done put out there. Now, I ain't even getting up to the stuff you recently done. But just how do you process like the whole, you know, just putting the music together? What's your process? Everybody got a process, man. I used to have a real set in stone process. Now, I just kind of... I done gained so many tools on how to go in there and record that it's just... It just depends on the situation. Like, last night I had a feature to do, right? I went in there and, you know, they had the song already mapped out. So all I really had to do is probably take something out of my notes that fit with, you know, the message of a song if there even is a message. Sometimes they make it easy on me. Got no message that's going there and talk shit. But other times if it's like a plot in the song, like, for instance, Food Stamp Baby or something. I don't want to talk about that yet, but I want to get to that later. But I get it though. You know, just my example. No, no, I get it, man. That Food Stamp Baby go hard, man. A lot of people... There's a lot of stuff behind that, just that whole transition with OG Bobby Billion. But with me and my music alone, I just... I'll fiddle on that piano and whatever tunes. And sometimes it'll just wake me up like... I know Quincy Jones said it'll just wake him up at like three o'clock in the morning and he'll just get up and he had to just do it. And that's the best music. But what struck you that why you started taking it serious six months ago? What happened? The piano, yes. The music. You been doing it. Yeah. Right, but the piano. But the piano is just like... It's just natural, man. It's just... Like, for me, it's easier than a guitar. You know, some people just pick up a guitar and they just stroke the guitar and then they come up with a tune. But for the piano, man, it's just... So nothing really happened that... Because before you used to play it with it. Yeah, you know, you just had like a little bitty keyboard, toy keyboard. Or baby keyboards. The Halloween theme song. Oh, shit. I could hit that whole. But then you don't take it serious no more because you want to start hooping, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to get a hooping ass nigga. And then one day, you know, you start rapping and the next day you'd be like, okay, what makes... What separates me from everybody? Exactly. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, what makes me more different than everybody else. And do you really feel like... Do you really feel like when it comes down to it, man, once you hit that booth, man, it's on or... Especially if you're doing it with somebody else. To be honest, it's a competitive thing. Yeah. You're like, I got to make mine right. It's... Because if I compete on the song, that don't necessarily mean it's a good song. No, no, no, no. If I want to go in there and I want to... Hard as 16 I got. Yeah, I could do that and I could get the chopping and rapping fast and all kind of metaphors. But that don't necessarily make it a good song. Do you key into your clientele, like your fans and be like, I know they're going to like this one. Or do you even think about that part? I see where I'm coming from. Yeah, I do. But for the most part with my own shit, I just try to be 100% genuine. That's it right there. 100% me at all times. And then I think... Or just reach inside myself for something that's real. If I can reach inside myself for something that's completely real, then I think the supporters and fans, they just going to gravitate toward it period because I think we all got something that makes us the same in some way, form or fashion. And when you say 100% you, who are you? Who is Ty Harris? Ty Harris is... I want 100%. 100% Ty Harris is... 100% human being. I mean, a regular to a point where I'm 100,000% honest about my humanity. My mental health. Now a lot of people like to say or talk about their mental health. Now a lot of people like to talk about their shortcomings or even the good stuff about them. Like some people, especially in the rap, everybody want to come straight from the mud. Everybody want to come straight from the gutter, nigga, we all broke. But I know what it feels like to be broke, but I also know what it feels like to have something. I like that. What's the most difficult thing you had to talk about to everyone that took your minute to get it out because it was a difficult situation. Mental health. Give me a situation. Just not believing in myself. Just not like, man, just wanting it to all be over. You know what I mean? I think there's a fine line between suicide and homicide. And I think we all walk that type road. Especially in the black community. Because I had a... That was a big thing for us with Doris Deshaun. We interviewed him a few weeks ago. He was saying that mental illness is one of the key elements that he has faced and the thoughts that come up with him. The challenges of being... You know, being Doris Deshaun. You know what I mean? Challenges to being Ty Harris. You know what I mean? That's a question. When I look at the skill that you guys are on, there's things that you guys are skilling that others aren't. So we got to be real. That's not... Yeah, everybody got issues, but everybody don't have the same issues. So your issues and my issues are different. But they're still issues. They're still issues. But if I can empathize with your issues, if I can put myself in your shoes because either I've been there or if I just put myself in your shoes and be like, man, how would I feel if I was in your shoes? And just empathize and empathy and not just be so cold like everybody and you know what I'm saying? I think that's the... Dividing and siding factor. I get it, man. That's what I try to lean toward. I don't want to be the dude that's just always yeah, I'm the tough guy. I'm a human being. I get heartbroken. I ain't the mother of the pimp other day. I ain't the pimp of the year. I ain't the most gangster nigga walking around. But you have your pimp moments. Yeah, you have your gangster moments. But today we all... I'm still a man at the end of the day, but don't tempt me. I'm with my girl in the mall and shit. Not here now. You ain't gonna go down like that. But scaling the way how you're scaling now and you're rising, I'm still talking about mental health because the higher you go up in the ladder, I think is the more challenge people get where mental health is concerned because we were listening to Cardi B last night when you do... Sorry, when you do good things compared to when you do bad things and how they jump on all the bad things that you do and they don't really like to talk about the good. But when you go out here and she cussed them out, they try to talk about the good. She's like, don't even talk about me. Why you have to talk about me? Let me do my stuff in peace. So you have a lot of challenges because with the bloggers, interviewers, TMZ, everybody's gonna be talking about you scaling and knowing all of these things and knowing that it's gonna be even... Even worse. Worst? What do you think about that? Because you have other people who are younger who are trying to be... Because they want that limelight. But don't realize all these things come with it. I try to think objectively in all those situations as far as bloggers and... A lot of people like to say bloggers are the messiest motherfuckers on the face of the earth when it comes to this rap industry thing. I understand. But everybody has a job to do. Even though I'm... Hopefully one day, hopefully, just cuss my fingers I won't be on the bad side of that job. But everybody has a job. It's journalism. Whether it's tabloid journalism or broadcast journalism it's still news and media. That's just the blogger's example. I gotta remember that these guys, they like traffic on their page. And if I don't feed into the bullshit, I won't give them traffic on their page. But it could be hard because we are all a thousand percent human. And words hurt. Well, that's what the question is that I ask. That'll get you on the blogger's page quick. I don't have many people on there because I ask questions about things that are going on within the city, within the music. And you might ask a question. I had one other day that I asked. And next thing you know, I look on somebody else's page. I never even seen it the way they took it. And they took it and they didn't really twist it. They just said what he said. It was just something that they took and said, you know, this guy, you know, I'll give an example. This guy got his self shot over here. And I'm like, wow, man, like when he said it on the platform I didn't really think of it the way that the other person posted it and made it look. And that's cool. You know, I'm the type of dude that when I'm asking these questions in here for show time, I'm asking from the heart. First of all, I don't know none of these people, bro. So I don't really trip, man. I love all of these people though. That's the difference. And I got love for the city. I got love for our people, our culture. It's coming from a genuine place. So I showed up to give an opportunity to people to be able to stand on a platform and say what they need to say like you, somebody gonna see Ty Harris and be like, damn, you know, I can do it. I play the piano a little bit. A kid. I'm being real. Somebody even a black kid too. Because some black kids feel like, oh, a piano, like I can't get, I can play it in church, but that's about it. So I took the shoot in this video and I was going to come out in early 2022. And I brought the piano like I got like a custom piano. And we brought it to Daniel Park. And so happened, just luckily we brought it when they were doing some kid function out there. And when the cheerleading function and the football function was over, the kids just kind of gravitated toward the piano. And it was cool to see that it was something different. At first they were just looking like, that piano right here. And then you saw the cheerleading girl come over there to touch it. Like, yeah, put the pinky right here but your middle finger right here and your thumb right here. And as a major chord, you know, and right then I, you know, never know I probably could have sparked something in that little girl. For sure. That's what I'm talking about. That's the thing, man. That when people see you doing something, they feel like I can do it too as a younger kid. That's what we should be trying to develop. Their minds are so in tune to what everybody's doing on the internet. There's so much false perceptions on there. We need some real men like you, somebody who really can give them something positive and say, you know what? I see him doing that. That's the talent I would love to do. And it keeps them out the streets. You know, coming from Oak Cliff, perception of Oak Cliff or God doing opera or any of that, it does not, it don't fit at all. You see what I'm saying? So I just, I thank God for people like you because I know I already can spark something in the youth, you know what I mean? And that's real. Did you get any discouraging remarks whenever you first started out venturing about your career? Oh yeah. It's always some bullshit. Somebody always hates it. I'm talking even like, not just by strangers. I'm talking about people that you know or family members and stuff like that. Indubitably. Yeah, straight up. I got anus. They be looking at me like, you ain't shit. I love it. That's dope. Straight up. I still love them all the same, but they be like, you know you can't sing. I might can't, but somebody like it. And I'm one of them I found them on the internet and I went in the DM quick. Boom, boom, boom. Then I talk bad to them when I finally got them on the phone. I've been in your DM. You know how I do it. Come on, man. This is a lot of traffic sometimes. I know it. I talk so low. I think it was so low, Lucha. I hit him up. I say, nigga, don't text me back, call me. That's what I tell him. I'm an old school nigga. He call me right. You crazy. Because it'd be real with me. I'll just, I'll be trying to get to what God put on my heart. I had seen that probably about maybe about a month, two months ago. Two months ago. And when I seen it, you was there down. You were killing it. I was like, dad, this nigga. Them songs right there, it's like kind of easy to pick up on the piano because them songs we've been listening to I've been listening to that type song my whole life, South Side of the Realist O-Clip that's my pull-up. You know what I'm saying? The one I just did. But that's the one even if you had lunch or something and somebody hit that hole back in school you'd be like, you know, everybody gets freestyle on that hoe. So that's just kind of a genetic code. And you can play without actually seeing the notes and everything like that just by hearing. Sometimes. For the most part, man, it's just muscle memory, man. So how did you end up singing opera at the Marry's game years back? Alright, so in school, and I had David W. Carter I didn't I was a hooping ass. I ain't think about singing. I was trying to hoop. Get them boys. Yeah, but I wasn't doing good in school. I was doing trash in school. Hooping like crazy. I was trying. You know, number two in the state do I see you here? I told you, athletic program was amazing. I needed an elective. You know, because my credits was whole. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to hoop. I needed the easy elective and I want to go get some snacks on a day from the choir room. Mr. Coire director up there he was like, what you need? Like I want some fruit snacks. And he was like, oh, you got deep voice. You want to be in our base section? I looked at the soprano section. Hot holes. I got to get in that thing, man. Shit. Fuck it. I like music. You know, there ain't nothing to it. You know, so I got in there and you know, it got interesting to me. And then I realized they took all the field trips. So I ain't have to come to school if I was out doing this shit. And so after that, it just kind of got large. I'm gonna do some choir. I ain't got to go to school. I don't got truancy or I could just write it off on truancy. Yeah, I was doing, I was still in school. I just wasn't at school. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so just got better and better and I started thinking it serious. And I was just musically just interested to me naturally anyway. No one sight reading and shit. Next thing you know, the UIL look competition, the solo competition. I got, you know, the best performer or whatever. Shout out Barbara more at SMU. She was my judge. She gave me like the best performance in the whole UIL thing. She didn't lie. Appreciate that. You're a bad boy, man. And I thank God for you. Like I say, your brother, fresh air. We need to do this, man. And right now it's a wide open lane and doubt whether people want to admit it or not. Yeah. That diversity. It's a wide open lane and people have lost their touch with the music. People aren't consistent. They let other people trick us out of our position. Y'all don't want to hear me tell y'all the truth, but I'm on Boss Talk 101. I got to tell it. I got to preach it. I got to preach it, man. We got to do better. That's one statement. We got to do better, man. So who would you say your clientele is? Your listeners. Like he had to describe. I got a lot of better everybody. From the street niggas to the weird niggas to the women, the ratchet women, the quote-unquote class women. I think all women got a little class button they can push. I think all women got a ratchet button they can push. But just everybody as a whole. I think my music and what I stand for is kind of like a down-to-earth kind of vibe. You just remind you that you're still human and you're not just shooting ass, shooting them up ass, gangsta ass. I mean, that should get you live. Yeah, that should go hard sometime in the club, but for the most part you got to look inside yourself and see we all still the same. We ain't all drug kingpins. We ain't all got them bows going in and out. Hell no. Just be human, bro. Let's be real. Let me I seen you on the picture with E-Farty. Did you y'all done some work together? Yeah. E-Farty used to talk about Old Cliff way long time ago. Straight up. Is he got cousins or something, Old Cliff? Oh, he got a lot of cousins. I'm telling you, I used to hear him say this way for you. You got a lot of cousins. You just mentioned one. I probably didn't say that. My bad. I'm telling you. Did you have a camera on? Yeah, all them cameras on. But like Old Cliff, man he always spoke highly Old Cliff, man. Even Kid and Play was on Vlad and he was like yeah, you heard him say that. That's by hood. Shout out to young Nino, man. He got a cool little flow. How did you end up linking up as far as E-Farty and what is that about? Can you talk about it? Man, just the piano stuff, man. Okay. Piano stuff. My manager, E-40 he posted something on his store. He posted the Old Cliff freestyle on his store. And I want to say I got a call probably like five minutes later after I saw the post and hello. It was a different number. You're going to answer them different area code. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This might be the break. This might be it. I answered and it was E-40. I didn't know it was him at first because he said some weird shit. It's E-40. I don't know the lingo. I didn't know what he was saying but I knew where he was coming from. This is your Uncle Earl. It's 40 water. Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? We locked in. He came to the city and he invited me. I brought my studio because sometimes I engineer myself. So I brought my studio and we locked in. I want to say to five o'clock in the morning. Wow. How did you learn how to engineer? My brother. My big brother. I used to be on a game like a fly on a wall while he was recording All the Mother Niggas. That's dope, man. Did you see some things that you really wouldn't have expected that kind of surprised you? Being that he is one of our premier patriarchs in hip hop. E-40 remind me a lot of my big brother just like an older version of my big brother. Scorpio kind of thing. I'm into astrology like that. But Scorpio kind of and he was just kind of putting me on game. He was just so much knowledge and so much game just oozing out of him. Every time he talked, every time he said something I was just on it. What do you mean by that? Just that in the third. He was just giving me a game to be sold kind of thing. I like it, man. That's dope, man. He has a lot of knowledge. But him too short I met short. You met short? You on the wall up there? That's one of my guys. What did you learn from him? I like how I like how Too Short moved. He moved cool, man. He moved on nobody. I take that from him because he don't move so super gangster. But don't nobody want to play with him. That don't make you tough. That don't make you real. That don't make you cool to fuck with Too Short. I like how everybody love him and everybody respect him. Because I eat moving. From Oakley to Oakland, man. He's going down, man. That's dope, man. You brought them boys. What did you meet short at? His studio. You went to Oakland? I'm not going to tell where he at. Atlanta? I love it. Have you done work with him yet? I'm going to fly on the wall in his studio to get the information in. He threw me an alley-oop one time that I can't disclose. He threw me an oak one time. I didn't realize he was doing so much gang. One of them almost flew over my head and I had to reach back and grab it like Odell. But, you know, that's... So is he okay? I'm going to get into blood, brother. Explain that to me. Give me an understanding of where that song came from. You and OG Bobby Billions. You and OG Bobby Billions, man. I don't know if y'all know anything about Billy Gang. Heck, yeah. Come on, man. I'm friends with Space. We was together last night. You Billy Gang? I'm not Billy Gang. I like to say I'm a cool little affiliate, you know? That's my people, man. I love those guys, man. I went to high school with a couple of them. All they little brothers is like my age group. You know what I'm saying? So when we were writing the song, we were doing the song in the studio. He was talking about his situations. I was talking about my situations, and it just kind of coincided, and it was kind of cool. But shout out Billy Gang, because they're cool people, man. All of them. The one that went to Carter, the one that went to Cedar Hill, the one that went to Townview, all of them. They heavy in the game. Yeah, straight up. I love the song, man. I don't know. Bobby, he get a raw deal for some of the stuff that's been going on lately. I don't know how to explain, but at the end of the day, I can still ask, you can apt out, you know, like some of the statements that he's made here recently on certain interviews, say cheese. He was on mine, and some of the people got kind of frustrated with some of the things he was saying. I know that being from Oak Cliff, how do you feel about the interactions of the way Dallas, I'll put it like that. Yeah, the way Dallas kind of, you know, they got these whatever walls up, you know. The barriers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When thinking about Bobby and like all those stuff, you know, he get a bad rep and all that shit. And he just kind of got the short end of a stick from the media and the people standpoint, because I think we all know when I'm going to say like this, a person is smart. People can be kind of ignorant. People, a flock of people look for a leader, right? And once a leader says something and they established that leader to be able to move those people, they kind of hang on that person's every word if you catch my drift. And people are going to trend, like I was just saying this, it was a post that came up about fucking Yellow Beasy and about his music and everybody all with it. And Yellow Beasy music whack. And every time he put up a snippet, they always say the shit trash. And I just think just like it was for 6ix9ine for everybody to, it was a fad to hate on 6ix9ine or say something negative about 6ix9ine and some fad to say something negative about Trump regardless of where your political standpoint is. It becomes a fad and a trend to not like these certain people. And once you get on that end of the stick, it's hard to break away. You got to be a BWF shit where you got to be the heel of the entertainment business. You got to be the villain of the entertainment business and that's what they painting them out to be. So, and they not even looking at the real human being behind the shit. Correct. When I look at, just getting back to OG Bobby Billions, when I look at the music, man, it's different. I definitely like it. He's a great song for something. Listen, I love the way he his cadence is his flow is different. It's got its own thing. So, did you have any pushback like when you was going to do the song with everything that was going on with him at the time? No, no, but, you know, I don't move like that. When I talk about Too Short, I don't move like that. I don't move in the sense of I'm like, I'm baa-baa beefed up. You know, that nigga try to beef with me is just roll off the shoulder like Mayweather. Like, I don't get into all that. And if it is some smoke, I want to really talk to the real human being behind the internet, you know? Correct. And not even know no guys just like, bro, what's going on, fam? I heard you were talking some shit on Clubhouse and I want to get to the bottom of it, you know? I ain't your enemy, blah, blah, blah. And it'd be like that and I don't be on a type of time. But I'm not going to do the whole Instagram live. I'm not going to do all that lame ass shit. I think that shit's so goddamn lame. Boy, I think it's just the worst. I really do this shit. It's just all for the traffic. It's all the traffic for the internet. But in this industry, I've found out that you have to be very, very careful of who you do work with because for the main fact that they might be beefing with somebody else, you might not have been beefing with any of these people. But because, say example, you mentioned Yellow Beazy, but you did say you do something with him, but he beefing with somebody else, but you're looking for down the future to do work with that other person. They're not going to want to do work with you because you did something with him. I feel like if Kirk Franklin can do a song with NBA Young Boy, if Michael Jackson can do a song with Biggie Smalls, we can do all things. If Michael Jackson can do a song with Biggie Smalls, if Michael Jackson can do a song with R. Kelly, but Michael Jackson didn't do something with Biggie Smalls and Tupac. Well, I think at the time, Tupac was already dead. I don't mean to just be an asshole about the situation, but I think Bro was already the party. But if he hadn't passed away, Michael would have worked both of them. Michael's so big, though. But who worked with Michael's sister? Tupac worked with Michael's sister. Tupac worked with Michael's sister. We just trying to create art, right? Let's make some money, let's make some art. Let's do something that's going to push the community forward, man. So Foodstown Baby, and Bobby Billions, again, going and doing that with Trap. Trap Boy and him collabing after Outside, do you feel like it was too short? Too soon? You don't agree with that, because you're a free spirit. So do you feel like it was too soon or do you think Bobby Billions was okay to do whatever? I think the way it was rolled out, the way it was perceived and everything that was going around the whole situation at the time all the bullshit, it made that song a lot harder than what it was supposed to be to drop. Yeah. I think it was a lot of instigation going around that song. It was a lot of nonsense bullshit going around in that song. And at that time, still now, to this day, like I was just saying, it was a fad and it was a trend not to like a certain person that's on that song. Which is Trap Boy Freddy. Because of all the nonsense and the bullshit that was surrounding him at the time and in that situation. And so when it was dropped, of course with Bobby Billions being on the forefront of the Outside song, which was perceived as we're going to ride from O3. That song was when it came when it dropped with 3's version of it it was the video and everything everybody holding the guns. What you put in, you get back. And so all the niggas holding them guns in that video, the fans perceived it as oh, this the nigga that's going to ride for 3. Hey, you're a nigga, ain't you sitting back on top? All that lame ass shit. And so they adopted Bobby as damn nerd of the new Mo3. Everybody in that video. And then when Bobby was like what the fuck? I think he just caught on to it. He caught on to it just a tad bit too late that they was on some trying to make you the face of the nigga that's going to ride for 3. You know what I'm saying? And then I saw when it happened. I remember it happening like right before my eyes. Because me and Bobby was already kind of tight and locked in the studio just then on the shows and bitter end and all that. And I just remember it, man. I remember them sitting it up. And me and Bobby had a conversation in Houston and I was like hey you know they're going to try to do this to you, right? And he was like I don't think so, bro. You say it like that and I was like alright, I hope not. And then boom, as soon as the bitch dropped then him and the manager they going at it and shit. It's going down. Shit, bro. And I just remember, I was just watching it on what you call, on my phone. I'm just watching it as it all rolls out. I'm like yup, they made it look as if your ass was going to be the riding nigga. And then when you was like what the fuck? That's when these motherfuckers, the sharks came and they smelled the blood and then they attacked you. And then they made you out to look like a whole ass nigga. Can he overcome this situation? From your perspective. Indubitably. Yeah, yeah. Tahir's got to make it. So how are you, you're in here Malink, y'all just. That's my dog, man. You just rock with him. That's my dog, man. I've had a conversation with Bobby. You know what I'm saying? I've looked Bobby in his eyes. I've played Domino's with Bobby, you know what I'm saying? How did y'all meet? His manager's birthday party I think in 2019 or 2020. That was the first time I saw bro, you know, in sugar's hand. It probably wasn't the first time I saw him. But it was the first time he actually had like a what's happening. I'm tired. I'm Bobby type moment. It was a show in South by Southwest that I forgot all about. He was on the same show that I was on and I didn't realize it, but now it's yeah, I mean, I fuck with Bobby though. I think Bobby's a genuine person behind all this bullshit. When I think about Bobby and what he's done and for the city, I look at it on the whole level, another level. I'm looking at the whole picture. What Bobby's done, what Mode 3's done, what Trap Boys done, what Yellow's done, what any of those guys done, Trap all of this is a collective. What you've done. We Dallas, man. You know what I mean? I'm out here in Dallas, man. I see a lot of talented brothers, man. I think our division is keeping everything from being productive as it needs to be. I'm being real. It's so much sound. Would you be willing to work with anyone from other sides of town like Pleasant Grove, North Dallas? You see what I'm saying? Cause there's talent in these areas. That guy I was just talking about. I don't even know him, right? Just keep me out that messy ass shit. I don't want to be involved in the mess. There's anybody you wouldn't want to work with? Come on with it. Just don't bring me no bad news. Don't bring me no bad news. Don't bring me no bad news. Straight like that. Don't do that shit, bro. These niggas will try to set you up to look like a whole ass nigga. Deal with that shit. Your music is so defining. Your music is something where you are set apart and I think you should take it that way. I think you should scale it that way. It's something that you can't even put in. You can put it in with different people, but you're different. Everybody now here playing OPM, they act like they are. I think Yellow Way acting like that on that Stevie Wonder. I love Yellow Man. I've always liked his music a lot. No matter what he put when Trapping Design and all that was going on I always say that on here. I understand where everybody is at too. It's a lot of people being hurt, bro. Straight up. Niggas got to take accountability for that for show. Straight up. It's one of them things that's all bad. All that shit was the worst thing that possibly could have happened and I'm not just talking about the shit that happened last year, everything. Everything from this song to that song to this interaction with Yellow. And then when you have to pick a side, you know what I mean? You forcing people to pick sides and everything else. That shit wack. But it happens. I've been pushed to a situation because it was like, oh no, you dealt with him. I'm like, what? It is like they force you to pick a side but when you remain a real nigga and you remain solid, everybody just got to respect it. I think there's people in the city regardless of any situation. You got to respect the nigga like hit that hoe. Mr. Hit That. You got to respect the nigga like baby. You got to respect these niggas because you know, they stood solid on the city needs to be here. In the midst of the madness. What type of dudes that say, oh, Ty Harris is here. You know what I'm saying? You brought up baby because there was a deal this week where people have been floating it around. He went to Dolph's funeral but he didn't go to Mo3's funeral. You see what I'm saying? That's been a narrative that people have spoken on this week because they felt like he didn't go to- And he from here. Well he's not from here, he's from Shreeport but he was talking to Mo3 just like he was talking to Dolph. You know, if you put yourself in that man's shoes. You know, if you put yourself in that man's shoes first off, he's a grown ass man. He could do whatever the fuck he wanted to do. That's first and foremost. You know what I'm saying? Baby, right? But you know, he's a lot more intimate with this city. And with both parties of that situation. So, man, I can't say that. Nah, fuck it. Lord forbid it was the other way around he'd probably have to choose the same path. Yeah, I get it. Like I said, it's a lot of it's a lot going with the politics of the hip-hop culture in the Dallas area right now. It used to then be that way. You could do music back when Lucia and I remember when Don Chief had it hold all them different e-greedy volumes coming out. It was no problem. He could just drop music. Nobody had a problem with Don Chief, man. You know what I'm saying? It was smooth, man. And you had Lil' Wheel and Lil' Wheel was saying my Dougie at the same time. And it was no nothing going on. But am I right? This is the age of information, man. Everybody got their phones, everybody got their feelings and everybody got their opinions. When you get them three in the mix, this should get rough. And everybody's getting more vocal with everything. You gotta understand that people like Don Chief don't pay the way. The people like DeRoe pay the way. You can't sit back and say yeah, but now, no, these niggas need to have some respect for the people who pay the way and look at how they done it, too. I met DeRoe for the first time when I met Charleston. Really? Yeah, yeah. That my boy right there. He been on here? Yeah, yeah. DeRoe, you're gonna come do a check on me, man. I had to cash, man. Yes, sir. Yeah, no, sit on the road, man. When he came on here, man, he spoke on the Mode 3 thing because he was a little closer to the Mode 3 side, I guess. Because they've been making people pick sides. I ain't gonna say it because he said he hung out with Yella, too. But at the end of the day, you know, because like I said when they came, it wasn't... Their lane was different. They didn't have to worry about all these different things going on, man. Oh, I did my music. Oh, it hit in Oakland. Just kind of like you did in Oakland. When you said that, his music was kind of like the same feel. Did y'all talk about that when you... We talked about, you know, the whole Oakland shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's very obvious what happened with him, right? Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I'm trying to do a song with DeRoe. Oh, yeah? I'm trying to get a song with DeRoe. I got to send him the fucking... Man, I sure hope it happened, y'all. I'm gonna enjoy that, man. I fuck with DeRoe. I like it, man. I like the things that are bridges we got across. We got to make it to where people see the city in a way that everybody can work together again. Yeah, straight up. I'm being real. You know, it's not like we got QC in this motherfucker. We got a QC label in another episode. We talked about that on another episode. We can't... We don't have that certain brand here or brands that where everybody is like being... You got your brand. Don't get me wrong. You got your certain labels, independent labels, not like QC, not like... But, I mean, in our defense, I think we... They had a... Atlanta has a head start. LA has a head start in the music game in New York. New York has a head start in the music game in Florida, like, in Louisiana even. We... Houston, but Dallas, you know, we just now getting our wings. And I think that's the perfect opportunity for us to excel. I think people are jumping off this Dallas wave a little bit too soon because of the... the shit and the bullshit. But I think if you give us a little bit more... a little bit more time, we're gonna... we're gonna show niggas that, and we're gonna show the world that it's a lot of good shit still coming about this motherfucker. Like... Why do you think Houston don't work with Dallas a lot of time? I think Houston looks at Dallas more so as a... as a money pot to come here and make money. Same way, Louisiana. Same way all these places do, like, they come here and make their little bag and they dip. That's what we've always spoke about here in our past form. How can we keep that money here? That's real. So I like... I like what the boys do with some of these boys do when they bring somebody in the city. You bring somebody in the city they gotta work with some of these artists. You gotta work with some of these cities, these artists in the city, man. The big artists in the city, you gotta work with them. If you're coming in, you can't just make your bag and you gotta make your bag and you gotta fuck with us. Fuck with us. Because now you're just highway robbery. Come on, fuck with us. Show us some love. And then we show you love. Come to the club make your money and then we're gonna go to the studio after this and we'll get like 8 bars from you real quick. Let's do the video and boom, you come back and I got you. You know what I'm saying? Same shit. Are you planning to take these trips to some of these smaller towns like the East Texas area? Family East Texas. Where at what part? Tallah. You got people in Tallah? Tallah, Texas. Man, but you that's important too, like when an artist start out you have to go, their show show money. People are looking, they hear the songs but you gotta put that work in. Whether it be Oklahoma wherever, right? And then Cali wherever, but you gotta go out here and meet and greet and deal with these people. I have to deal with it. And I think these artists like our artists, I'm gonna say our artists I'm gonna press them real quick. But you like you playing a piano, right? Yeah, straight up. But now these dudes gotta realize that you you keep yourself relevant, you keep yourself on if you fuck with the next nigga coming up. I get it. You motherfuckers like these dudes they wanna, you know, they scare it to fuck with other artists in the city and other talented artists in the city because they don't want to, you know fuck with somebody who's on that other side because they got that bullshit beef going on. I understand that. But at some point you gotta realize you have to start getting with some of these artists coming up because when they get on they're gonna remember that you helped them for example me. I'm gonna remember everybody that helped me because it's like it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. You know what I'm saying? And I just started believing in my own little height just like recently. Usually I'm just you know the humble nigga and I just try to do my own little no, I think you got to you got to my home in all of your situation. At this point in time I'm just kind of looking at all this situation and I know I don't reach out to a lot of you motherfuckers. Man, well I reach out to you so don't try to do it. No, but here's the thing. Go ahead, come on. But you got you got to reach out to everybody that they see you. They see the work. I've seen it. That's why I was like you know, if I seen it, they see it. You see, you see this young book doing his shit. There's no nothing wrong with saying, hey bro you go hard. Let's work because at some point like it's up for you. I can see it clearly instead of trying to ball a block of some shit. Everything happens in its own due time and everything happens for a reason. The reason why some people probably don't, you know, reach out, whatever is not meant for them to whoever it's meant for that person to work with you. That's going to be hella lame. You ain't no if. He farted and said it. I'm not saying if I I'm saying if I blew up and your ass ain't hit me up yet because then I get it. That is so true. I agree with that. You don't fuck with me now. It don't feel genuine. What the hell? Why you acting like that, bro? Come on. We could have been did that shit but your ass was something going on in your where you didn't want to do it. Top three artists of all time did or alive any genre? Number one. Artists? Not just rappers. Anybody. Any genre. Dead or alive number one two and three for you. Artists can be pianists. Number one. Usually I get rappers. I don't care about that. We all in the same game. I'm going to go with groups or just anybody. Groups or just one. Anybody. Anything. However you want to slice and dice. I'm going to go I'm going to go Michael Jackson. That's the easiest person to say it. They say Chris Brown better than Michael Jackson. I haven't heard this a lot. I know a lot of people say that. Who said it? One person. I mean it wasn't the one person. It's the argument man. I like Mike. Number two. I like Beyonce. Boy I ain't heard that one. Not by a guy anyway. I love that. Just think about it. Both of them people even Chris Brown your name. I'm going to say he an honorable mention on some shit. He ain't going to make my list but he an honorable mention. I fuck with him. Both of these people dance. Both of these people sing. Both of these people do amazing videos. They put a lot into it. It got movies about the moonwalk of the truth. I know we talked about this Travis Scott shit and everybody was passing out and it was fucked up. But Michael been doing that. I don't know if nobody died or nothing. Well that's nothing about Travis Scott thing. They say he ain't know niggas was dying and shit but if you up there and you see people passing out you probably think you arrived if you an artist. Yeah. You don't know. Mike will pop up on the stage and niggas just get the falling all out. He didn't have to pop up on the stage. Yeah. You can't compete with that. And then Beyonce that's how I bring it back. They do all kinds of cool shit. They have twins come back up still on top. Come on man. You can't compete with that type of shit. And these niggas just be rapping thinking they doing something. That's some bullshit. That's some bullshit. Number three. There you go. You just snicker. You ain't gonna be able to come up with this one easy. You gotta ex everybody else out the game. Everything is just like Chris Brown and then these is my niggas. Number three. I'ma go with I'ma go with a classic one. I'ma probably go with a white boy. Go ahead. Really? Let him do it. You got offensive with it. You want him to go with the white boys. I'ma probably go with the white boys. And he started talking like them. The white boys. Those boys can sing. I'ma go with the Beatles. I'ma go with the Beatles. Farmer Cardin and him. Farmer Cardin and John Lennon and Ringo. I'ma go with the Beatles. What you know about the Beatles? I know a lot about the Beatles. They just had a special on Disney Plus. They just had a special on Disney Plus about the Beatles. The outfits the Beatles wore. The colorful little shits and our artwork. That shit was groundbreaking at the time. It's a reason why Michael got them masters. You know what I'm saying? He didn't show got them too. And he had affiliations with them as well. Straight up. What about Prince? He was a musician. 27 instruments. I think he was the best musician. If we talking artists. When people talk about artists with me I think about the art. Prince is the greatest musician to do this shit. You know what I'm saying? As far as artists is concerned you got to think about it. Because it's more than one aspect of art. You got acting. You got dancing. You got music. You got all these different dimensions in art. How do you feel about R&B? I'm an old school nigga. Like Brian McKnight and all these cast that nobody even talk about no more. They don't even talk about these guys no more. These are extraordinary. And they say R&B coming back real soon. I know you said it. A lot of people say R&B coming back. They got to work. Look at all these rappers singing now. R&B is coming back. You talking about T-Rail. Who you talking about? The Reds or Shud? It ain't like singing in the rain. It ain't like singing in the rain. It ain't like singing in the rain. It's trickling that way. It's trickling that way. That's what I'm saying. Most of you niggas... Murray is not... In the quick ten... That is not it. It's not the R&B thing. That's the difference. But it's dope. But it's not the same. Rod wave. He's more of a rapper than a singer. But you see what I'm saying? That's the bridge they're trying to bridge with. He doing a little something. I'm putting him on the spot on Boss Talk 101. Shit, man. We done went off in here today. Your son be having to app with a piano on the app on the phone. He be playing the piano on his phone. Oh, yeah? Does that even work? It'll teach you though, right? Nah, it actually does. You do it, too. I got the same motherfucking app. We talking about the pitch project. He be on there playing. He talking about... I might think he might need a... I'm not gonna buy you a keyboard. And you can play it just like on a piano. Let me ask you something, man. So, if you could go back and talk to the younger you. That's one of my favorite questions to ask, man. And you could go back to when you was in high school. Yeah, just coming in high school or something, just getting... Just learning... Take it seriously. That's what you would say. That's what you would say to your 16-year-old You need to be more serious. Take it serious. So do you feel that if you had taken it serious at a younger age, that you reach further in life right now? I'd probably be an opera singer. I'd probably be an opera singer. Think so? I'd probably be... I'd probably never dropped out of college. I probably would have had all my grades right. Would have... Take it serious, be decisive. Do you think if you went back and told yourself that at 16 you could have listened to yourself? Think about yourself at 16 years old. Probably. And think about yourself now. Yeah. You could have convinced yourself to listen to you if you didn't know that was you. Oh, if I didn't know it was me? Exactly. Because if I know it's me, it's real. I bet. You could get in an actin', man. You know that, though. I think about it all the time. You could get into... Diego, trying to get it together. There's some people that's trying to get in to make the... See, I like you. I like people branching off into acting. I didn't make you and him. He did his own budget, his own movie, and it's dope. When I show it to you, I'll be like, dang, this dude here in Arkansas, you're in Hollywood. Man, that's crazy. Shout out to CJ, man. That's my guy right there. I was thinking about an audition for Fences somewhere. You got to go, man. You got to give it a shot. There is an audition. If you can do anything... The thing I always tell people, I said, if there's something that you want to do in life, don't hesitate and just do it. Because a lot of times, we are our biggest critics. We were like, nah. We discourage ourselves so many times into doing things. And then later on, you're like, I wonder what would have happened if I did do X, Y, Z. Look at Jamie Foxx. Jamie Foxx from Terrell, Texas, right here up the street. He gets on the piano when he's in Terrell. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. He goes to California. The truth. The acting and everything else start to be a thing. I wanted to sing, but I ended up having to do this. And you know, just a whole bubble of... He's a jack of all trades, man. Yeah, just a whole bubble of talent, bro. Yeah, straight up. You know what I'm saying? And to be from here, from really primarily right in the area where we're from, should motivate everybody. Straight up. If he came from here and he can do it. She's super talented. Be Simone is extremely talented. She says she's like the female Jamie Foxx and I believe her. She's funny. She can do some music. And then the improv thing is an art in itself, man. That's crazy to be able to do improv comedy at some... That's shit. Come on. Be up there and talk about that shit and do that shit. Think of that shit. It's crazy. How could people get a hold of you, man? Ty Harris on... I know one thing God put you in my life. T-Y-E Harris 32 on all social media platforms. Man, like I said, I hope we did you justice. You know what I mean? Here at Boss Talk we're going to... Man, we killing the game. I think we got a little something. What you think? Have you ever had any young kids come to you and be like, you know, I want to learn. I want you to teach me. Yeah, I got to go to Carter, either Monday or Wednesday and go back and tell them, you know, the game. Teach them the game. Oh, that's cool. Teach me the game, ghost, so I got to go. See, that's the way of giving back. I love that. You always have to give back. Do you think... I mean, putting God first is that important? Without a doubt, indubitably. Straight up. That's my... Come on, man. Without God, it's a disservice for me to not do this shit and he done gave me all this talent. Come on, man. I got to. Do yourself in the next two years. L.A. kicking back, relaxing. Oh, Miami. South Beach on my yacht. What is it going to take for you to get there? I need my Grammy, man. Come on, give me my Grammy. I can't wait. Nigga, I interviewed him on Boss Talk, man. I knew that dude. Give me my Grammy, man. It's about that time I'm done playing with you, niggas. Come on. I'm so happy, man. And what's dropping next? We got Asphalt and Concrete coming very, very soon at the top of 2022. So, Ty, man, help me to find me. You know what I'm saying? When you get to the next song, you know, let me stand by the piano. You know what I'm saying? So, how do you like John Legend? Because he played that thing, too. I like John Legend, man. Would you ever work with him? That ain't your steelo, though. You different. What was that movie with... Was it a Steve Harvey movie that they kept playing that song in? I don't want to brag. I'll be... Oh, man. That was... That was Tyler Perry. Was it Tyler Perry? They played that goddamn song to that whole movie. I don't even know what movie it was, but I know that song was in it. That whole goddamn movie. At one point, I was annoyed, but I want that kind of money. Oh, yeah, yeah. Play the song to the whole movie. Would you ever do work with him? Yes. Who would you like to work with? If I could work with this person, I'd feel like, dang, I done it. I won't work with Paul McCartney. Boy, that's dope right there, man. That'd be amazing. Have you ever reached out to him? To Paul McCartney? I wouldn't work with Andre 3000. I love... I don't know if that's going to happen. Andre would be tripping, man. That's cool. But he ain't going to come on the videos. He's somewhere doing something he want to do, and I can respect that. That's my Gemini uncle, man. I do one with Andre. I'd love to hear it, but I'm just... It might not happen, but that's... I'd love to hear it. But have you reached out to Paul McCartney? No, I have not reached out to Paul McCartney. You should. So you got rejected like you did me? No. Come on, bitch. I'm back on you. See, that's how lies get out. See, they create the narrative to make you look like... But you know, shout out to Ro and a couple more people. They told me who hit me back automatically. You know what I'm saying? Don't play something like that. Some people don't check that. You know, on your DMs, you have that other section. The request section. The request section. Check that section. Your request section? What's the craziest message you've ever received in the request section? I plead to fifth. I don't blame you. I plead to fifth. I ain't going to do y'all like that. You don't have to call no names now. I ain't going to tell no names. Y'all obey. My messages is a safe place. You got to get in the actor, man. I promise, man. It's just the expression. He in a movie now with T.I. I don't even know the name of that movie. I got to hit him up and find out. But it's dope, man. You got to do it, man. I'm going to see what I can do, man. You can't do it. I think we need that in Dallas, actually. Look at country Wayne. He's killing the game right now, too. We got to be like a thousand times better at everything. You know what I'm saying? We just need a platform. We don't get a platform. We have to come together to do that, because a lot of people talk about Atlanta, because Atlanta folks are together. They have a structure. We're getting there. I think every city has hate and ass shit that go on on the inside of it, but when you've got the structure and the platform, it makes it easier. I think you'd be alright if you don't try to be like Atlanta, if you don't try to be like Louisiana, because you got something different going on here. Louisiana got some, Florida got some, Houston got some, and Dallas got some. We need to figure out what that something is and get involved in that something in the way that we can only do it here in Dallas. Unapologetically put our own culture in everybody's face. Even the people from this motherfucker that's like cowboy haters, like are you going to be from this motherfucker and not like the cowboys? Say man, there's a bunch of people behaving. My son, one of them, he's sitting right back there behind you. He's not going to do number go to Philadelphia for some reason. Every time we watch the game, he's going to say something similar. Check it man. Hey man, we love you. Listen, I'm going to be honest with you. By far you've wanted the dopest interviews out and done. I can tell you that right now. So Ty Harris, we love you bro. And we appreciate you for coming on Boss Talk 101 man. This has been another great segment of Boss Talk 101.