 Well, he was a volunteer too, and he named the district and was well known throughout. He was one of the, I guess they called him a trustee or something like that. He came to Canada as a late teenager and then when Canada went to war he joined the Canadian Army and went overseas and where he was wounded almost immediately because so many were, he was very fortunate, so many were killed, but he was badly wounded and was sent to a hospital in Scotland where he recovered. And he didn't really talk about the war, but he had holes, like in those days there was no bath tubs, sponge baths. His back was full of holes and as children we used to put our fingers in these holes and he would just laugh, but never tell us what it was all about. The whole back was covered. He fought Vimy. He never talked about that.