 George Bruno with the 21 report. We're at the 21 convention the final event of the decade And I'm having a conversation with mr. Elliot Hulse. Welcome. Thank you How'd it go on stage today? It was amazing It went really well. I've been hearing about it the Aftershock Reached all the way up here great 12 Commandments. Mm-hmm. What were the highlights of those Commandments? Well, there are 12 Commandments from my father. So these are all things that I Grew up Experiencing in my home and different bits of wisdom that he shared and the reason why I thought it was important Is because I think we're suffering from a lack of father energy in our culture Either fathers aren't there or if they're there they're weak. I was blessed to have a strong father. Yes, and Growing up in the betafide culture that we we live in I even resented him I didn't understand the power of having a strong father until I was much older In my late 20s and having my own children and a lot of the old the words that he spoke to me When I was younger started Resonating much more Some of them were very some of the Commandments were very basic Things like thou shalt lift my father's 70 years old and you met him. Yes still fixes his roof Yeah, he's still very energetic very strong sharpening his sword and that's the first commandment I'll shout lift you got to be strong to be a strong man Is inside and out and one of the speakers this weekend has said so poetically and beautifully that if you're if you're not strong You're weak and so that's the first of the 12 Commandments. Some of the others are a little bit more comical But highly applicable like thou shalt fuck and My dad's gonna be seven years old and he makes no bones about the fact that he likes bone in my mom and The reason why he does that and why it's so relevant to all men today is because his testosterone is high Yes, he doesn't take any Supplements or testosterone replacement. He eats really well. He sleeps. He gets sunshine. He doesn't stress out Yeah, so, you know, he's alive. He's very vital. Yeah. Yeah Absolutely How did men receive your message today? It seemed like it was it was well received. Yeah Excellent. Now you were part of the patriarch convention back in May. Have you seen a shift in the 21 convention since then? I'm really just getting a feel for what's going on here. I'm so blessed to be a part of the movement I didn't know what the Manusphere was 18 months ago. Yeah, and so everything that I'm learning and seeing and experiencing is brand new and Between the patriarch event, which is what brought me into the the whole sphere. I mean And the 21 convention here all I can see and continue to see happening is men growing stronger Yeah, either be it through being strong fathers in the patriarch event Which it's my conviction that if we're gonna turn this boat around it's gonna begin with fathers Men in particular men, but fathers in particular And then this 21 convention Weekend really broadened it and it it's really about personal development for men Inside out for all men and it's been amazing to hear the other speakers. Yeah, you have a very important voice now You you've established yourself. You have a massive following apart from this organization and It seems like the missions Just work well together. You just slid right in here. Yeah, and it's as if you've been with this organization for 10 years You didn't have to warm up to warm anyone up to your message. Your message already resonates here Yeah, it feels like a perfect fit. Yeah, when I came across what you guys are doing I knew I wanted to be a part of it. Yeah making men strong again. That is That's assuming now that phrase making men strong again Sounds like for a while men got weak. Oh, yeah, what happened to men? well Depends on who you ask I like to point the finger at the breakdown of the family. Yeah, and There are either no fathers in the home or weak fathers in the home and a part of that I think comes from feminism this push to emasculate men and Masculine lies women that's been happening for 60 70 years And we've gotten to the point now where the tables have been so turned that we're living in a backwards day Where you see the homes now have the children at the top of the order leading the family because the mother Pandas to the children which is normal and natural because they come from her and she's emotionally attached to them But the father is on the bottom And he's being led by the woman and the children and that's a recipe for Lack of love and integrity in the family women don't like weak men The children are suffering because they have no direction. They have no boundaries They have no discipline in their home and as a result the children grow up to be fatherless Meaning the father maybe wasn't there because the government gives handouts to people for not having fathers There's bonuses and prizes for kicking the dad out Even with the divorce laws and it's advantageous It's if if you want power as a woman the best thing to do is well get the seed from a man And then take him to the court and get his money And it's created a situation when men are timid they're weak and because there's no fathers. There's no Ideal there's no see I was able to give these 12 commandments for my father because my father is an ideal alpha male leader in my home I didn't know it. I didn't understand it because I grew up in the in the feminized world But I can now lean back and realize that Because I had a strong father I can be a strong father for my children and what I represent in the world today is a strong father figure I couldn't have done that had I not had a strong father. So it's my conviction that By making fathers making men strong again. We're going to turn this whole thing around You do a grounding camp Tell us about that well grounding camps intention has been to reinvigorate the time the age-old practice of initiation for men and Of course, it's not the same as it was for our ancestors where you know They're every rite of passage or initiation process regardless of the culture across culturally there are two elements The first element is a movement away from the world of the mother the material world sensuality gratification comfort mommy and a movement or an atonement with the father and What comes with that is challenge austerity a sense of purpose all very masculine traits Grounding camp is designed to move take men out of the world for a little while. We have to set ourselves apart There's no more safe space for men any longer because women are in all of our circles Yes, and if you try to exclude women, they call you names and you're you're a bad guy I'm willing to be that bad guy by creating a safe space for men to be men to talk about things that are important for men challenge one another challenge ourselves and Restore a sense of dignity and meaning in our lives so that we can go back out And be those strong leaders that we need to be Give me an example of a case study of a guy that attended your grounding camp Who was questionable who was weak? Who didn't have a good upbringing? Tell me about his success stories. There's someone that you can think of that really is a great example of A man that benefited from your services from your teaching from your camp We've got a lot of examples, but one that stands out is a young man named Jake Who's been coming to grounding camp for the past few years and he's also a so it's not a one-time event It's something to keep coming. I keep bringing him back Because he's become such a great asset to the to the movement by being in being an example Wow of what we want and what we expect from the men that leave grounding camp and He has transformed inside out, but most Telling is how he runs his business now and how he is with his wife or girlfriend He's a strength camp ambassador. So strength camp is also my other business. Yeah, my real my true Ministry has been through the barbell through lifting and so through grounding camp We also create an opportunity for men who want to help other men become strong men And they want a career path to then proceed into our strength camp ambassador program So he's received and utilized all the internal strength that's associated with the rights of passage and the austerity and the exercises and the fellowship of grounding camp, but what I'm really hoping for and what a man like Jake Resembles is the transmutation of that into a actual Service to the world a lot of men that are attracted to my programs are into fitness. They like to lift they're into sports a Lot of them want to be personal trainers so we've created an opportunity for them to Also learn the business skills the marketing skills and also to benefit from the brand of strength camp By creating the ambassador program that Jake is just he's doing really well up in BC, Canada The great thing about or the great thing about strength camp and what he's been able to do is that as long as you Have the internal resolve and strength that comes from the things that we talk about a grounding camp We just give you the step-by-step that you can go out there and start your own gym, and he's done that It's doing really well. Wow What did he look like? When you first met him describe him. Oh, man That's funny. Well Jake came to strength camp and He he was skinny and he had a lot of zits I Remember seeing him for the first time and thinking well. He's like an awkward teenager. Yeah, and that was normal and natural That's the type of men that usually end up coming to strength camp because they want to grow stronger for their sport or whatnot The difference about with Jake was that he wasn't just good enough for him to grow stronger as a man Which I mean he's huge now. He's probably stronger than me But also he wanted to bring the gift of strength to other men and he really took that role the gift of strength No Tell me about the gift of strength That shout lift is number one, but it's really about becoming the strongest version of yourself so outer strength reflects an inner strength and So the gift of strength makes a man carry himself With more dignity and more power in his stride. So it's not just about Muscle I found that the men that come to strength camp from the very beginning Would transform physically but then walk and carry and speak and be different men I didn't expect that. I wasn't looking for that but when I began to see it. I realized that there's an alchemy There's a transmutation that's going on from the outside in and of course I was Grateful and happy enough to be there for these young men not just for lifting But they would ask me questions afterwards. Yeah, you know, we do we'd have a kick-ass lifting sessions and then hey coach What do you think about my girlfriend? What's happening here? Or what do you think about my parents and what's happening here and Buy and buy their bodies would grow but their souls were evolving. Mmm So you are a coach and a mentor Yes, wow And it's interesting you said he might be stronger than you now. So one of your own students surpassed you Wow, that's what I want Wow, you know making men strong again, right? I mean, that's my job is to make that make sure you're better than me You know my father and this is another one of my father's commandments Yes, he would say to me and to my siblings look you got to be better than me. Otherwise. I'm wasting my time. Yeah I Leave this world as a father and you're worse than I was then I failed Yeah, I feel the same way of course about my four children, but with the men that I mentor It's not about getting them up to a level. That's good enough. Yeah, it's about look. I'm gonna die I'm gonna get old. I can't do this forever. Right. You got to be better than me So you have one biological son, but it sounds like you really have a lot of sons Yeah, like I say, I'm a father figure to millions of men worldwide You are That's isn't it amazing that you're a father figure to people that you've never met It is we live in an amazing time and I'm happy that I can stand in that role. It took me a long time to Recognize and accept that role. It was difficult for me. I had to go through some of my own I Had to change I had to change some things and evolve on the inside myself To be able to truly stand in those shoes and I have to be completely honest that the man is fear And the red pill those things were like the final nail in the coffin for me It was like the final piece. Yeah, I was missing to be a complete Mentor and father figure to these men because I can give them all kinds of great advice on lifting personal development I mean I'm into all these things that make you a stronger man But my experience with women was very different than theirs Yeah, I have a traditional conservative background with my relationship My wife and I met and we started dating we were teenagers. I married the woman and I've been with her and that's it Yeah So I couldn't really talk to them in terms of how to pick up and how to be with women But when I began reading books on the intersexual dynamics and then I came across all I mean all of you guys All the things that you're doing I realized there's an entire world out there That's trying to make men strong again, but From a from it from the inside out where I was doing it from the outside in so now that it's all come together And it's a beautiful thing. Hmm. I have found that I have a fairly significant female following to my surprise Do you find that there are women that are following you and looking at your advice and they're growing from it? It's evolved over the years. Well, let me first say that it's all forever It's been mostly men. Yeah, even when I wasn't trying. It's just I look at my clientele and I was like, well, it's all guys here Yeah When I started making YouTube videos, of course, there are women that are into fitness, too They want to lift and that's great. I want my daughters to lift Yes, I want them to be strong So a lot of the women that first started following me it was because well, they do want to be stronger I'm a good-looking guy. I'm sure that's why they wanted to watch. Yeah, all right But now as I've been red-pilled And I'm taking this stance of making men strong again. Yeah, and I'm talking about intersexual dynamics I'm making my conviction known about relationships and marriage and promiscuity There has been a Divide but a very powerful divide in the women that follow me. Of course, there are those that hate me now They feel like they've been bait and switched to like Elliot You were such a nice guy, but now you're saying these things and we hate you But what's really interesting is That there's a new crop of women that are either just making themselves known to me They've always been there. Yeah, or starting to follow because they see the type of relationship I have with my wife and they're wanting to know how can I how can I have that too? I want a strong man. I want to have children. I want a family that stays together and A lot of the women that are now following me. It's because they are hungry for Information and inspiration on how to really go back to yeah, what women were like 60 years ago. Yeah They don't want to counterfeit man. They want the real thing. Yeah, and so they my wife gets emails all the time She gets tons of emails from women She has a whole she has a whole lot of followers on our Instagram because they want to get into her head Yeah, and find out how she's being as a woman the gentleman that we're in here before that reported me They had they got a really good Peace with Colleen and I in the kitchen and she's talking to them about being married to me And I can't wait for women to see it because my wife is not an oppressed woman. Wow Yeah, her life is great. Yeah, but it's traditional. She's a wife. She's a home She takes her to home. Yeah, and she's a mother. She's not a career woman She's not fighting injustices. Yeah, she's not trying to climb the ladder She doesn't compete with me or other men, right? She's a good woman. Yeah Sounds great It sounds great. What is the future for Elliot Hulse? Where do you see yourself in 10 years? I really feel like this is the beginning of something brand new like I'm just getting started I I feel the same way about you too. I just feel like You ain't seen nothing yet, right? Yeah. Yeah, the past four years. I've kind of been in In an abyss in a dark place. Wasn't sure what I was being called to I Discovered that I needed to grow a lot on my own on the inside I was led to a lot of the information and ideas that I needed. I've literally I'm transformed. I'm a different man than I was when yo Elliot was popular on YouTube. I feel more I feel firmer in my convictions And in that I'm more courageous to speak up because I know I'm right The old Elliot would bite his tongue a lot more even though I always spoke up But bite his tongue a lot more because I didn't want to make any enemies. Yeah new Elliot realizes that they're going to be enemies and That's a that's great What you do is a business and a ministry so to speak, isn't it? Yeah, I like to use that term. That's interesting Mm-hmm. Yeah ministering to the bodies and souls of men Mm-hmm giving them that inspiration and information and the example. I hope not to just be a man of words. I hope that my Posture the way I carry myself and the way I live my life is An avatar isn't isn't is an example for them to follow. Yeah, so integrity is top of the order for me Yeah, what advice would you give a man who? Describes himself as being stuck in life. How would he get unstuck? action you got to do something and I always say begin with your body if you're stuck in your career You're stuck with women. You're stuck in your your mind. You're depressed Begin exercising Get some fresh air. It's too the problem is that it's too simple the things that I'm saying Are going to go right over people's heads because it's why can't just be that yeah, but it is Your body is your mind what you are speak so loud that we can't hear a word. You're saying yes So what are you being? What are you doing? And I'm convinced you got to be physically strong. You must lift But then with that also comes you've got to eat right you got a you got a brief fresh air You got to get sunshine. You got to keep that testosterone level up. That's why Commandment number six is thou shalt fuck. Yeah, it's a result of being Lifting reading one of them is the third commandment is thou shalt stop, which is really about meditating. Yeah objectifying your emotions, right? Optimizing testosterone these are all things that Testosterone is manpower man juice you put oil gas in your car So it goes yeah for a man to go you got to put he's got to have testosterone. Yeah Wow You're a trainer a philosopher a Doctor it's like chiatrist a motivational speaker you wear a lot of hats What other hats do you wear that I didn't mention? Well I'm a husband and That's a that's a there's a loaded term today But if you look at the word husbandry and what it actually means It's a creator. Yes, and so, you know In our world where everything's backwards and denigrated you say husband and it almost sounds weak There's an association with it that says ball and chain Bog down you see the image of the husband bowing his head and falling behind his wife. They say game over That's not true. That's not what's intended. That's not what the word means To be a husband is to be a king And to be a king is to be a creator be fruitful have children own a home grow a garden Procreate be generative. Yeah That's powerful. It's very powerful What do I even say to that? Be a king be a creator a conversation with mr. Elliott Hulse. Thank you Elliott What was your experience so far with the 21 convention? Oh I was dead. I was dead professional all across the board really good energy with a lot of people and I just like this is very positive positive direction this George this is a this has been a first-class event. It's fantastic. You guys were in a really tight ship I've been in a lot of conventions over the course of my business career And I can tell when things are well run and when things aren't and this is a very well run operation I was very impressed. It's pretty incredible to see where Anthony's brought it Especially from last year, which is my first year here and to see the upgrades. He's made it's been incredible I've got my notebook and with every speaker. I've written down about two or three lines under each of the speakers of just Just the key prime stuff that I got that's good. That's great. It's very surreal man. Yeah, I'm really enjoying it I'm happy to live in such an era Where is such a thing like this is possible? I have never seen a group of guys like this group of 200 men were focused Squared away and working on their values just never met a bigger group of wonderful guys It's kind of neat because I've been to a fair amount of conventions in my day But you never see one where the guys like here you can just see Ed Latimore talking to Tanner about boxing Yeah, you sit down and then you tell your boxing experiences everybody's kind of pinging off each other It's yeah, it has been fantastic And it's been four days of guys all on the same page working in the same direction fascinating meaning some of the people Hearing their stories. Yeah, you got people traveling from other parts of the world to come here just to see yeah some of the speakers That's amazing. I think it's impressed me. Everybody here is very serious. Yeah, they're taking it close to their heart What a great convention. Thanks George