 Welcome everyone. Thank you for joining us today. We have Masimo Stella here to talk about Kate and live Masimo take it away Okay before to speak about getting live I would like to celebrate Katie of course because it's the 25th birthday celebration and to me this is a I'm very happy to be here because it's a very important moment in the sense that This idea of community is at the open source. Maybe so so maybe 25 years ago was just not the beginning but was just not even a dream because he's already moving but something that was in the mind of someone just Starting point today 25 years mean that it is idea this project is working pretty well and it's here around to stay and it's It's not just a matter of what he's providing because providing fantastic software tools to to help people to be more free and dependent and most secure and It's a mother also of culture. We are spreading culture with is a way to to do what we are doing So I'm very proud to be part of it and I guess that It's a very very very good moment because 25 year means that this really something Real something that is not just an idea or something like that. It's something that is happening though I'm here to represent my friends on Kedin live because Kedin live is a group of friends at the end and as I said before in term of culture what bond us is Passion because we are doing this for passion to and so this is Thinking about passion in today war is time like Like motivation to do it's to me is very important and also the result we get in in time to me now today We are probably the leading software in the open source community in term of video editor and So this is to me is a goal we achieved if it's true because of this passion that is also the same Fingerprint in term cultural fingerprint that is KD community as so I'm very happy But before to start to speak about Kedin live, I would like to portray the story So someone who will tell me that will tell me that I will already use this video for the last year to every Presentation that is on the side. Okay. I'll admit that I would have the time to Produce something new for celebrity celebration, but it was not possible. I was very busy recently and And so I recycled this old video But it's not very old just one year ago because I produced it for last year Academy Mints in this time of the year. So it was updated to the version of KD and live 2008 so one year is exactly one year ago. So what we do we play together this video So we can watch it that we can learn about This experience that's a KD and live is producing since 2002. So it's that next year would be 20 years So 20 is a great celebration to the first reason will hold 2003 and we are here today. So I play this video to Summarize what's happened Up to today and then after we speak we try to make the Summary the summary of the last year what happened next KD and live is a community project with James to deliver a free and open video editing software application To allow everybody to produce quality content in order to increase the democratization of the media The application is a graphic interface written in C++ with QT and KDE libraries for the MLT framework written by Dandenity which relies on FF MPEG to decode and encode almost all the video and audio formats that are out today and Which hosts effects libraries like Freyor and move it for video and Ladspa and socks for audio By following the official documents that we can find on the Internet the project was launched by Jason Wood who released version 0.2.3 in October 2003 Soon KD and live 0.2.4 followed but the community did not yet exist and the group was very small the project stopped for two years Before the end of 2005 Jean-Baptiste Mardel who heard that the project would be reactivated offered his help and in 2006 He signed the post of the new release 0.3 of the program from this moment on he became the main reference point for the project Version 0.4 and 0.5 are soon distributed But there is an issue a refactoring of the code is needed to go forward The program has to be moved from KDE 3 which is not compatible with MLT to KDE 4 The rewriting ends in 2008 followed by several new releases But in 2011 a further migration from KDE 4 to KDE 5 was needed to allow the program to grow In 2012 a crowdfunding campaign is launched to fund the operation and before the end of 2014 the goal is reached Then finally in 2015 KD and live becomes an official KDE application Jean-Baptiste was invited to academy to present 10 years of activity The new perspective is to make the project even bigger Before the end of the year the first KDE and live cafe is announced with the aim of getting more people involved During this virtual meeting it immediately became clear that in order to grow KDE and live needed to be cross-platform The windows version was announced in 2016 began with a sprint meeting followed by the new logo and the new site But as soon as the development of new features started It was evident that the code for the timeline had to be rewritten because it was too old and no longer fit Everybody knew that the refactoring could take several months or years but the community did not lose enthusiasm In 2018 a new roadmap was written and in 2019 the refactored code was distributed Although some fine-tuning was still needed To overcome this the focus of the community in 2020 has revolved around fixing and improving the program The result of this is the latest version 20.08 which delivers stability several new features and a new interface with five workspaces So this is what happened from the beginning okay, then live to today what you want to do now It's today up to the last year. So what I want to do now it's update The last that I have to do that what happened in the last year so starting from The end of this video so That that sign last year to today. So to do that I Show you better because this way under me. You can't see anything for real So I remove my okay And I show you what we publish in the site during this year. So mean that after All this work we implement the same track transition We implement a subtitling tool to create subtitles inside cading live straight away We we have can edit you see there is only so I invite you to To visit the site to check what happened. We revamp the effect completely. We rewrite all the folder We arrange it. We remove what was not working. We had new filters. For example in fact like these padding tools and orders For example, we have the full support to We are 360 videos for example this point. We have a support for 3d video means stereoscopic video And we have a video qualizer and other effect that are coming actually Then in terms of usability with the usability we do the bunch of job in terms of for example on the bin To tag better our clips to make it faster easier the way to arrange and find them then we implement the way to manage better the tracks by removing and adding faster track also the way we visualize you visualize the waveform inside the site And for example this very important the way to archive the project that archive the project that I will speak about later because Mix up with another of the things that we did recently make a really important Portant direction to the application that I will tell you later Then in the following. Oh, this is actually was the last one the last thing that we put this is now It's a correct is it Is the Is this was the version that we introduced all this time in the version of december last year So then in a we introduce in every we introduce the speech to text which text means that now you can edit your interview Just by letting the ai Vosca ai to collect them the speech from the The video and create a list of text that you can edit straight away on the text for Then we improve again the usability by inserting the two zoom bars by inserting the information on on the bottom bar by reset the position of guides and other tool that we have on the timeline We insert in introduced the media browser were interesting object You can just drag and drop from inside the application Bros in the folder and the assets inside the computer We refine improve a lot the keyframe panel and then we insert again other effects in this kind for example with this type rider the alpha strobe And very important. We insert the affect zone for tracks and for master track to get a result like You know, you can have with the adjustment layer in premiering or the fillery method So you can just then we add the dependent following online resources And other stuff in most recent versions the last one the one of august we insert the time ramp that is actually The keyframe for speed so you can change speed progressively and the masking effect they introduce Some important stuff that are to come to but it's very interesting the way to apply the mask So it's we can use different filters to create the mask and then apply So we can open for example to secondary color correction that we refined recently to have a full support for secondary color correction Again always interface and usability improvements for example moving the guy together with the footage have the chance to Set shortcuts to Visualize that come on surface some widget that could be highlighted maybe under other widget same for shortcuts for keyframe functions And now improvement on central transition and the improvement will come more because we are still working on the central transition to make it always better a command bar that help us to call every possible command that the kidney lab is able to perform through this bar just with control health alt i Then we have the chance to be in we I meant that we add something to the keyframe Even by copying storing so we improve the keyframe situation again also by the Importing the motion information we improve also motion information to create stabilization etc And we have the chance for example to rename the guy to the monitor that is something more but actually This is this is not all what we we are doing because what we are doing now in this specific moment Is that we are We are improving A lot more stuff. I need to collect now a list of things I've written So we are doing the work on the trimming tools now soon we'll see The two of the four famous trimming tools so means two means We have already ready that I will show you the slip and the ripple. So we miss just only the rolling and slide that are Rolling maybe it's not so less important slide a little bit less, but the main ones slip and and ripple are almost ready so we probably Out 90 percent on the next release for december We still improving the single transition. So they are always getting better also because we have to Mix up together with the the trimming feature to the trimming tools of the fitness feature We found a fantastic noise reduction for voice that works very well as will be in the next release too We have the first Scratch of the new arrangement of the audio effects. We are working on it a lot because You can compile a bunch of lapstein all my on my machine. There are for example 600 Effects some of them that doesn't work etc. So it's a long job. I guess that will be able to complete Soon as Soon as possible, but I don't know I hope for This reason I'm not so sure but also because This I don't want to introduce what is the so I will tell you after why I will slow down We will slow down with the with the audio effect Then we have finally implemented the secondary choral correction. Thanks to this new mask system So we have a very complete secondary choral correction. I will show you something during the demonstrator I don't know how many times to let the demonstration today because we have a bunch of things to say But some demonstration it's in my in my list And then multi-camera environment that is Really fully functional is working finally and we have The chance to do Not a chance. We have the most important news to me on the table. I show you I go back Again on the side to show you what We post a couple of days ago So I go back here. Give me one second, please That I have to open the page that is here. So we have This Yes, kd live is finally On macOS. We are still on the nightly build. That means that We are still testing but it's running and the screenshot you can see here Show us that is possible. I already personally tested on some apple machine on some colleague It will be to me working. I hope on For the next version should be out as Before about the audio effects that the problem is that how many of the effect we can compile for windows or for mac for example less Then what we have on on linux in linux. I was able to install more than 600 effects Some of them that they don't work. So I have to Personally to check etc. But we also understand You use the other person that that are working on on the packaging for example vincent has to import all this effect inside the Windows of the macOS version now again included. So we have to check what It's possible to have on a platform or what it doesn't work in some platform. So it will be Long a long word. We want to arrange stuff. But it's come. What is important and it's Related to what I said about archiving our project that been on all the platform means that A great improvement in the sense that Imaging you are working with someone that has not is not using linux and you have to share a project with someone and First of all being cross-platform in that you can suggest people To adopt kdnl. So I know because you're doing using that but this is a good software. You can use it Try it you don't even have to install windows because we have a standalone version And so you can immediately share your project with everybody because the software costs nothing You have not even to export a a yellow the format so to for interoperability You can just install your software inside the machine and this will run your project And Secondary the fact that we can archive the project that I show you because we have this feature Will help us so you can archive just with the proxy you can for example have a Machine when it could be online or could be remote or whatever This is open to sharing project remotely and work remotely because you can just save on your remote location to archive project with just the Proxies that is they are very small respected the original footage so you can share my proxies remotely Your project with with whoever is around and you will work with and then we You can render out just from the place where the assets the original assets are Present on the machine. So this is a great improvement. What I want to wait a moment. I have to check because some point maybe It's now it's The time to make this some show you something for example, I prepared Okay, now I want to finish speaking about one important thing because Because I'm confused what is the better order of how to arrange stuff No, I go with the demonstration because I guess that I trigger enough curiosity About what it's really what we are doing So first of all, I show you the trimming. So let me just Open the show you the trimming space behind me then I let you Watch just what happened in the interface So this is for example, now we show you something interesting It is in your sub folder structure. This is actually a new feature New feature which kind of feature is you have to know that in Maybe a bunch of people know already. So I don't know already. So I don't know that for example In this is a folder that I produce with my xd come My xd come for example created for every single clip a folder which contain different Object media files and other data that are usable for the camera So to import also the zoom recorder someone told me last time during the last cafe That has the same problem of following for this true because I have a zoom or zoom recorder So I have the the same problem. So now today you can just import the main folder Ask to kid in love to ignore the folder structure and this happened that you can import Straight away All give a second because it's full of clip you can import straight away from Your bean. This is of course The as you can recognize the Our media browser is written here. I would like to switch the We can do it later. I know it's just it's just still importing So it's It's possible this way to avoid to import all the single Folder that are in the in the bin that you want to in the folder you want to import but You can have the folder structure in your world. And so you have just the clip inside the folder I don't know what's happening here 45 job. Okay. This is actually I have an excuse for that because this is just A testing proposed application just for trimming. So it's just to show you how the trimming works are going So it's not a tested version. So I'm not happy that it's happening now But I was very trustful about this and okay so Maybe we need more time to check if it's able to But it's always work. So it's I can show you in Okay, now maybe I have to pass from this to this and move forward with the presentation in We have no trimming in that situation. So maybe I go back to a trimming later But just to show you how they work and what we are doing So what I can show you from here. Sorry what I can show you from here is for example The secondary correction secondary correction. This is a big project actually that is That we speak about later. So for the moment, I close it open new one Clean I import some footage from here So give one second, please Okay I import the footage with my face that I use also for this demonstration Okay Second I call this is not the best actually picture I can use maybe I use another picture because to make a good To make this one this way is not the best one We can use that one for example. This is okay I would like to avoid proxies now So I remove the proxy click Okay, this one because we have these fantastic skies. So let me play a little bit Out of the clip and place in the timeline No, it's all with the moment Out On frame now a little bit longer Okay, then we maybe increase the resolution. So I here we have A Custom effect call call secondary color correction. How does it work? So we pile so I show you the how the mask work. We put all together set a number of effect We create this secondary color correction tool to select the color of the secondary color correction We add this alpha operation that allow us to Show the mask we create Of course, we can refine the mask by using the tools that we have here that can change for example the hardness of Of the mask I can show you we have a converse here. I don't know why he's asking to use Okay, we can Of course change the parameter of the mask to check to make it harder softer to make it more precise now We are looking for Sky for example, mostly so we have to remove all the of the surface. We are not interested in the attention to Sky All right, then I will do a sky for example red just to show you something is stream So you see also the clouds are coming out, etc So we can control the mask by using the parameter. We have inside there the tool I'm doing very rough. Then we have the gaussian blue that the blur that help us to make the smoother or The mask for example Then we have Transpensive means how much is Yeah, it's like That we cannot see the color correction Oh You watch what you see You're right Okay, okay Someone's typing Okay, I can see your screen I can see you moving around was stuck. No, no, it's okay. Okay. It's my fault Actually because I was stuck on the other plane when the application gets stuck before But we can now I can repeat. I'm sorry in the meantime You're fine. Um, yes, there's a question. Can you start the color correction over from the beginning? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very, I'm very sorry About what happened So I was confused because when I didn't was in the the block I before really Shock me for a moment. I start from scratch again. So it's not he's not difficult. I'm here We have this fantastic landscape. We take the secondary color correction Okay Now we have this tool piled as you already listened to my text before I can repeat fast then so we have this secondary color correction mask that allow us to Click and select the color. We have the alpha as I saw before that show us the mask We have all the tool to control our mask by Increasing the quality we can change the type for example Of selection is for example, this one is smoother. This one is different. You see So I let you then decide what you fit the operation you're doing So for example, I want to use these Parameters to create this mask because I want to call takes for example some clouds some other stuff like that So we decide that this mask is this soften parameter doesn't work exactly on the alpha channel. So it's not It's for other purpose. Actually, it's useful, but not now We have the gaussian blur to soften our mask Then we have the transparency actually that being the transparency of the mask, but I will show you later what I would work And we have the apply mask to apply the mask now We have to decide this point which kind of a color effect we want to apply Inside the object for example, we can use curves But you can use whatever you want. You can use also for example This one should be one we're appreciated by exactly for example You have to put the mask Under the color effect Of course, if you want to You can turn off the alpha operation just to watch the and now our color correction works only in the part We have created with the mask. So if I move For example the gammas mean that they create a part of the medium part of the you see To red just the sky is changing the color because this is of course Also, the lift that is the more intense light Have an impact, but of course these are in the medium range. So it's more important. These are the dark carrier. Anyway, you can see we have A change of tonality. Of course when I see before About gash and blur make a difference also. We have step. We have the chance as you can see We change the mask this way And another stuff I can show you is the fact that transparency of the mask change how much Effect you apply To your color correction to change The atmosphere for example of this sky so I hope that is Okay, I don't know. I don't really I'm not reading the chat in this moment. So I don't know. I hope that I fix the problem I created before The multicamera environment I can show you that is interesting. Maybe it's I have to create A small timeline with objects. So I can do that. I can remove this color correction for the moment I can use the same clip that is pretty long. So for example In a different in a different moment I have to add the tracks of course because we okay just video. I don't make the audio We had two video tracks Video two tracks. Okay Okay, okay So I don't care about the audio. I just insert Another section of video My fault another section of video on top of this Then another section of video Let it be forward in time here Pay more attention Here then another section Here At this point I can activate my tool like multicamera tool As you can see now we have The split famous split screen With a moment, yes Okay, now at this point we select which is the first image We want to watch another video in our video. For example, we start from here We just have to play and let's say for example now I want to go here Now I want to go here Now I want to go here Sorry, my fault. This is the biggest mistake. I have to let sorry all the of course all the tracks Activated so sorry, it's very important stuff. So I decide which is the first one So I move here for example I move here for example I move here for example I move here I move here And so on stop When you go back and you Go back to the standard way you have your video edited following What you did Of course, there is some strange effect here because it was already edited But this is for example how the multicam works. So we have a multicam space working correctly and then and then okay The audio don't show you the noise reduction is a pretty easy effect. You can just drag and drop on the On the effect stack it works automatically the improved transition It's nothing very you can you'll find when you use it Um, okay archiving project is pretty easy because when you achieve the project you can first For example, I um clean the project first and then achieve in the project So then project what allow you allow you to achieve in the folder Wherever you want even online remotely or you test it you can archive in only the proxy clip Uh, so when I will able and compress it what is interesting of this system that the application once you Uh, have archived the project this way in the application just watch inside its folder So it's possible to move the folder whatever and to even have this online and share So the project only the project file between machine and help you have always everything synchronized So this is a first implementation something that could be in the future The idea to work remotely by using kdn live, but it's already something now If it's possible Show you because actually I Close the program the version with the three main tools today before I show my face Maybe one second now Okay, so you can see me when I'm struggling on the computer So, um Wait a moment because I I have this Stuff in a specific folder this uh trimming Applicate version of the application So I have to go and open it physically Okay I try to In port again now I'll show you anyone I want to To To do it first what I did before maybe the folder was very too big. I'm out of I'm coming. I'm coming I'm almost there Okay So now I'm porting in the meantime. I prepare The Okay, I'm preparing. Yes. See now. Let me check if it's Now it at work then importing Okay Oh, he's making all the proxies. I did it was the problem. Okay Okay, okay, which concept is working now for the moment Okay, I just remove the proxies from here Because he's making 300 jobs. That was the problem. Okay Okay Okay Ready to go finally ready to go so I can show you We change here We Change here and here My face away Now Now we have this proxy clip. I remove the proxy at the moment. I don't want to use it I take two clips for example, I know I want to trim before In point out point Here point point in point Out point Just to have a sequence of objects In point out point now we see the sleep tool The sleep tool what allow us to do allow us to do that we can move this Clip As you can see the one is you see you see the mercury yellow and blue This is the the length of the clip without moving the clip from the timeline We can change the in out point of the clip. You can see it over there By moving the clip without changing its position in that time You can have some you know synchronization with the music for example, you don't want to move it by like how the in out The motion inside the in out point is working. So maybe you have to change it this way way to do it Of course, you can click and change the clip So Refine our and you also the preview about what is coming before and after so to understand how the The thing is working the order. We have not even have the icon the other Tool so it's very we see it's very a testing phase is that For ripple what happened ripple when you ripple you just remove the space Now I I exaggerated we have this still Existing bug, but we can We are I want to show you that we are implanting It's not anything finished yet We go here again to show you without Pushing too much What will happen at the end all the active track will be When you drag it you remove the space or extend the space. We have also the in out point and you can do of course If you reduce or extend so you reduce You move the in or the out point of one clip or the other clip move accordingly to match the new Length, this is actually the Ripple tree mean that it compensate Automatically all the space that is removed. So it's automatically make a compensation Once I say all that I would like to conclude because now I'm ready to conclude because it's already 40 minutes and more that I'm speaking lying crazy person rambling by myself So what I can say is that We're reaching a bunch of goals reaching a bunch of goals example recently We are I was I was cast to produce a content for a main TV show in Italy comedy stuff And I have now time was a It actually I show you the timeline because I had it open before It was a complicated object because it was just a minute but The idea was Not super easy. I have time when I make the demo version for for approval So I to test it And I knew the old The what these Clips to Ask the man to the software. So I think that was a good idea to use it and at the end we broke it what it Some of this clip were broadcasted during the during the During the comedy show so I can show you that if you want to if you want to Find out more information about what what happened in Sorry that I'm fighting with Okay, if you want more information about this You should go on our site and And check one of the latest news that is here. It's uh wait a moment. I go on the latest news Okay, one of the latest news that is kdn live on tv broadcast the money and so we have the link Where to go and check Exactly what was broadcasted and in which situation What I can show you now actually is oh is not loading the page, but we don't care because I want to show you Now I want to go back come back to To kdn live actually And I want to go back to kdn live and show you this but is I don't understand why is not updating Here is not updated. He has the windows Behind me. So let me check. I can update it We don't show me correctly kdn live. So I won't just to show you the project of this Of this maybe it's because of Oh No, it's correct. I don't know why I'm not I'm not able anymore To show you my correct background So the application I would like to so it doesn't matter So what's important? It's actually that to to complete all this conversation that We have a conversation on The chat there's always a conversation. We are all friends. So we're speaking about somehow we're complaining that I I don't consider kdn live professional software is not true They told me that it's professional when the software used For someone to somehow make a wage. So make My profession I use the kdn live for professional some people use it And I guess it's possible to use it. Absolutely And it's just depend on the situation in terms of what is demanded by the The field you are in So I use it for television. It worked I know that we still miss the nesting that is very important step And I don't think that we'll have it on december maybe in april But it's very last step to have A feature pack stop. We have still some work around some stuff to buy at that point We you can complain that you miss something Maybe sometimes could be more tricky but in the time we find everything and everything with at the same level of proprietary expensive software What it's my problem with that is that I would like now I would make to Give the best application that professional intimate of any level can appreciate other people that still prefer to pay Do you sure that they have all the thing that they want? So I would like to convince that people That they have not to pay anything because we are ready to fit its needs. So we are close to that You can go in that direction We already broadcast in television and content or equality content in the prime time comedy show And we also are Accepted so they accept Okay, now it started It started broadcasting But I don't want to show you this anymore About the show you want to show you actually If I find Okay, not this one. I want to stop it here and I want to go here Because as you can see if I scroll the page, I hope that is the page is visible now. Yes If I can scroll the page, you can see that we are here in the aswf that is an association that collect software that are That are on the target on the spot of On the industry mainstream industry. So means Hollywood too And you can see there are some important partners and We are In canyon line. So they accept us This is the way to be in the center of attention and to Collect maybe support. So we are looking for have more support in general in this moment um, because we want to grow Faster and I'm better in the in the next feature. So I don't want to tell you that we have on Our drawer a bunch of News coming because it's true We are rearranging a bunch of stuff and that we want to reach that point that this application could be considered top application so we can compete from to Against I can say against I don't like it because it's like a war but we can compete to with With the property software means that the big four application like avid like premiere like final cut like the bingeros all I think that we are close to and To me the most important thing I can say that if you are someone who's Is a junior video editor or you just want to become a video editor. So you just start to edit today to me Kidding live is the choice you have to do in that sense You need time to grow as editor So kidney live is growing very fast and I show you how much we are fast So how much we are growing and by showing the video and what happened in the last year The fact that we are now we are we were able to propose to a membrocaster To work with the software and accept it the fact that we are in this association and that And then under the wood also in terms of community. We are changing Something important because we want to become faster in developing collecting attention and support So what I can say if you are someone who's a learn how to edit today Take this in consideration because you have to learn so you have your time to learn in the meantime We are going faster by growing fast and Also the approach of editing It's it's it's on personality. Of course kidney live is not exactly no no no software is exactly the same on on Then the other another one But I can tell you that when you learn for example video editing If you learn two programs for example in January you when you open another programs You're super fast to learn how to use that one because you know What you need as editor the tool and I don't need what you know what streaming is We have under streaming is what is a multicam space or whatever So you look in a new application where these two are And in for example when I open the first time the DaVinci resolve the editor part I learned how to use it probably in less than half an hour because I really know how to use avid cut Premiere and Nightworks and whatever so was 20 minutes. So what I can say that it's free. You have not to crack anything You don't take a bit to use And then after it will ask you something So you learn something that is free. It's yours because it you can be part of community Anyway, if you use it you're already part of community. You can even spread And the fact that caddy and live exists to other people. So you can as I told before you can share also The idea to remotely work So you can use the application So to me is the best the best bet you can do by betting on caddy in live to become an editor and have Very very efficient tool that can help you to grow professionally and Introduce you to video editing at certain level that you can if they ask you to use another application You can very easily starting from that point Um I can tell you anything about what is Coming next in the change of caddy and live because I'm just here to represent the community. So I would like that. This is something that When we announce we're reading i'm already announcing that something is happening. So stay tuned When this will happen you will be informed everybody will be informed Who is inside the community will every day is connected to us Not connected to us because it's part of the community So it's part of the company knows is informed every day Who want to be informed every day just have to be part of the community entering our Channel to communicate communication channel like telegram, etc Ah one point when I show you the video the community was 360 people now today We are another 130 more. So in just one year. So we are growing the 30 percent in one year. It's very good We have more than 200,000 Download per version per version that without macOS. We see what happened with macOS. So we are very happy What I can say to conclude i'm very happy to be Here to be like speaking about free software because a very important word is that free software And kitty 25 anniversary and it's free freedom is the key word So, uh, I'm glad that you are We've been out to celebrate this moment and to me we can in life for the moment. It's I conclude here and I wait for you next time. Maybe kitty like cafe another Meeting where we can talk straight and be together Thank you so much. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. Thank you And there are some comments coming to the chat But the question if you'd like to answer it is how similar are the windows and macOS versions To the linux version in terms of features They should be the same and recently we had also An improvement in that sense Um The instance start to use craft to pack Packing also for windows or again together. They use this craft At the point they decided to use craft also for the mac version and also for now to create the Up image version for linux. They use craft. So the idea is to synchronize the code inside craft have just Different way to compile for the different operating systems. So on the paper our idea is to have Three exactly three software that works exactly the same way What could be different As you have to consider that a bunch of features are linked to what is called effect because it's actually Effective and you don't see it don't apply effect some features are based on effect What could be different for example, it's to see for example, I told you before about the audio specifically Which plug-in in this case is plug-in. So it's different. It's not function We'll be we'll be able to bring inside all the platform or random But the idea is that the three Version has to work exactly in the same way. This is the point We'll see if we will be able to do that. I guess so in my opinion. Yes We see in terms of stability mac is still need to To be tested even if to me it's When I tested the first night reversion more than one month ago What I found as problem was that it didn't load the fray or filter, but this was fixed recently That we have not the bar for change the layout for example on top Right part of the screen, but you can use it by through the menu of view and That I I don't know what happened. I don't know it was fixed with the graphic library of mac I have a problem with the playback on the monitor So if I use the full resolution was smoother than when I reduce the resolution But it's something that they are I know they are working on So we need tests on mac and exactly windows. It looks like that is going pretty well and we are At this point at the same level than Linux, I believe I don't know. I tested it. It looked like good. So This is my if there is other answer. I'm here to answer to all the questions There's another question here massimo. Okay, what is the best way to donate to help the kaden live team In terms of hardware laptops money kdev membership Okay, this is part of what we are doing in terms of the same news. So The idea is that is to be Very light. So okay first of all what the list of things you can do it's Starting from using it and report bugs if you find it Share the voice proposed to other people that edit the software and telling me exactly honestly What's about because for example when I go when I went to This guy that we're working to right top society international from society based in new york And they have to make a very complex job who hold the fashion week in london. They even rent some computers Top one computers to do this job Um, so I test the kaden live on the top one mac That they have don't even have the money to buy it but just rented And they were interested when I have the problem with the playback for example, they I don't say they lose interest but they say We wait when it's ready But the guy told me that he will Call me back in November because he want to try it anyway doing his show real that is nothing professionally just for himself So he has the time even to fail, but it's interesting. So Fred Because if the guy when he will do the show really will be enthusiastic maybe next time And we fix the problem mac maybe next time for his own projects how to use it Is in the field he will talk with other people or the people will be encouraged to Download it. So people enter and suggest a new feature that they like to have another software. We can do it So spreading participating report bugs Translation if you need some reason participate to the manual If you are able to code of core coding money could be of course a support because we want to start with raising funds at a certain point Independently stay inside kd associated being part of the community. Anyway, We stay always connect to kd use always in fact historically be kd part But we would like to be a little bit more independent in terms of arranging funds at a certain point We always try to rise found to pay piece of code so to accelerate somehow the process to to go where we where we want to go It's a community the most important thing is participating and really well starting from using the software to push the software to other people and to suggest Have suggestions check bugs participating participating using and feel that is not If you're not you're a user you're not alien from the project like, you know, you buy from adobe You know, if that something doesn't bother the bug you can post in the community But nobody will solve that bug. Maybe the bug would be solved in two three version But you have to pay to update and not today. You don't even update you just have to pay monthly But nobody cares about you. Nobody's interested about you is interested about your money We are interested about user and the quality of software and the passion that we created software This is a matter of passion matter of quality matter excellence. So participating is Being there what they say always being that if you want to help us being there participate to the kdm cafe write being in the chat use it and Enter the point when we be able before we able to collect our Our donation by ourself, of course donate to kd is always Is always the best thing you can do if you want to do it. So that is That is what I can tell so being there Thanks Massimo that is all of the questions we have But there were quite a few comments coming in saying, you know, thank you. Congratulations on the uh ASWF edition and broadcast use Um, it's it's great to see how kdm live is growing Um, and I hope more people will get involved and just be there as you said So that's the point I as I said before in the video That I produced last year that is a presentation video the There are a quarter 300 40 something at that today. We are 400 and more than 60. So we are 130 people more on 330 so we have 50 percent more people than last year So in total we have a 30 percent we grow of the 30 50 percent but in total we have One half more than last year. So this is the the tax of growing. I would like that we could grow Even faster. But anyway I can't complain personally because If the ratio it's 150 per year, maybe We'll be some thousand in some year, but I guess everything is Exponential a certain point. I guess so it's just a matter of starting. So we are on our way Amazing Well, um, like I said, that that was all the question on possible and I want to thank you again for joining us It's really a pleasure to hear you Thank you for inviting me to having me. I'm sorry again for the mistake. I did when I get stuck with Okay, I think I think everyone quickly forgave you. So have a great rest of the weekend. Thank you Thank you. Bye. Take care. Yes, the session was recorded and will be available