 Typically, I'm palm up. I don't like grabbing it palm down I'm palm up on the wrist, but the most important thing is where I'm controlling with by the inside arm So it's not down on his bicep. I'm not grabbing it with my hand I'm pinching his shoulder right to my chest and up high on his shoulder If I just grab down low on his bicep and pinch He doesn't really feel that pressure when I'm lower in my weight So when I'm I want my shoulder kind on the back of his reaching up on top of on top of his Rotator cuff now when I'm level changing he feels all that weight when I'm Just sidestep get that inside leg coming to you Just play around moving them But when I'm taking two on one off up high on the shoulder not down down on the bicep with my hand Grab around that rotator cuff pinch it tight to my chest now. I'm moving him He's feeling a lot more play around with it. You're going