 Hello, welcome to Toffy TV. Sean Daish is set to be announced as Everton Managers sometime in the next 24 hours we are informed that could be the next 9 minutes. It could be 23 hours and 11 minutes from now. I'm not even going to attempt to think where that time will be at that time. But there you go, John Beckham. Turn on my T-Blews. I've been there for a while. I've been hiding since America. John, he was here all the time now with us, so it's all good. We'll go to you first because we've had this discussion all week. Sean Daish, Everton obviously got to the front lampard last week. This is actually really, really quick by Everton's standard stat. The manager chased on a Wednesday front lampard going Monday. Monday, yeah. And they've got a new one in place by Friday. That's unheard of for Everton. What are your initial thoughts on Sean Daish? I don't know really. Obviously we were, again, similarly to last season in a bit of a position where it was one of two names. And if you didn't like either of those two names then it was tough. And both very different managers who would have brought very different systems and styles. Daish, I do think is more of a short term solution and that doesn't mean he can't be a long term solution. But Bielsa was definitely not somebody that was going to come in with the intention of turning around overnight and would be brilliant by next week. Again, over the course of a year, two years to a year, Bielsa might have worked and maybe Daish won't in that timeframe. But I understand it, I suppose. I wasn't particularly for either, to be honest. But I don't know whether I'm in this just weird pegatory of Everton have done that much to me over the last 12 months and certainly the last week that I'm just, I just can't see the wood from the trees. I'll be honest mate, I'm in the scene. I'm almost like when we lose at them. This is what I'm in at them. When we lose I'm just like, yeah. And this with the managers. And normally with players, with deadlines, I'm like messaging people, where are we at? What's happening? I honestly just feel like... That's more of a concern for me, to be honest, because we're in what is arguably the most important transfer window of our recent history, similarly to where we were last season. In January, four days to go, and let's be honest, we've had one player who was really linked, heavily linked, and then obviously turned around before signing his last sheet of paper or whatever it was. Not really had anybody else that you can think of, but we're definitely heavily in for him, or we're rumored to be out. And ultimately, whether it's Searn, Daish, Marcelo, Bielsa, Pep Guardiola, this current squad of players isn't good enough. It's not got enough in it. There's not enough attacking threat. There's not enough quality in attacking areas. And regardless of who the manager is, we need reinforcements. I'm at this point now. I think I said that on Monday, if it's Daish, then make it be Daish and get it done as soon as possible so we can go and actually have at least a couple of days to try and look for players. If it's Bielsa, then do the same. One thing we couldn't have done is done another week, two weeks, or after this manager, or after this manager, or after that manager. We need to simply go out and improve this squad before the end of this transfer window. I just can't see this current squad staying out. And yes, I think they've underperformed and I think you can get more out of them, but I'm not too sure how much more out of them you can get. I don't think you get much more out of Damari Gray. I think he's one week brilliant the next five weeks. Not very good. I think he's inconsistent. Anthony Gordon doesn't look like he'll be here anyway. Dwight McNeill is Dwight McNeill. He's not going to get any faster, regardless of who the manager is. So we need reinforcements, and that's being my big worry, is again, for the second year on the bounce, we've got a January sector manager. When we've needed to go out and bring in players to improve the team, and we've gone, well, we need a manager first. And you know, what deadline day last season we ended up bringing Delhi Aliou coming in and was the most part of fail. Donnie van der Beek, who had two good games and then you never seen him again. But last season we had a kid up front who would win games on his own, scored goals and gave it 110%. We haven't got him this season either, so I'm just a little bit concerned. Don't get me wrong, I'll be behind Daish, and I wish him the best of luck. And I think for a short time thing, I think he's probably more suited than Bielce it is. Doesn't mean he's guaranteed to keep us in the Premier League, and it doesn't mean I'm sitting here saying, oh yeah, we'll be all right now, we'll be signed with Daish. But I think he's more likely to than what Bielce it was, because I don't think Bielce is going to come in and change his way of playing. Ultimately he was shocked by Leeds, because he wouldn't change the way he played and the players couldn't do that job. And this couldn't score, the players couldn't play in Bielce as well. He's certainly not without six, seven weeks of hard effort and training to get them into that way of playing. John Daish, so what are you, where are you with it? We said 24 hours ago he was a safer decision. You also said not Daish though? No, I did, because I don't make safe decisions, I don't think. I make what I think are the right ones. And I don't know how much of this is a decision for the people who are making it, rather than for the goodness of the football club. You know, I semi-flippantly did a tweet this morning after an exhaustive recruitment process we've collegiately decided to go with the last man standing. Because let's be blunt here, if Bielce said he wanted it, he'd be the manager. Even though all of us, including the people making the decision, must know, without his six or seven weeks to get into the heads of the players, he wouldn't necessarily be the bloke they think they've recruited. Does this... So there's no plan, man? Is this a stupid... There's no plan. Not John Daish, the Bielce thing. Because this fella was available in November. That's where I'm going. If Bielce was really the product of a plan, then you appointed him after the Bournemouth debacle. And you say, we've got a World Cup, mate. Get them in gear. And a full transfer window. And a full transfer window. And games that are winnable. And so on. I mean, a matter of days ago, presumably the director of football was agreeing with the team manager, which players to try and recruit. Now one of the challenges this football club has is, and it might not be true, because all we can do from the outside is looking, is it single threads everything? I do not believe they're capable of recruiting a manager and recruit players at the same time. Because there's such a narrow bandwidth. People like Biel or Fahad can't be in two different places at the same time, right? So you might assume that Biel and Fahad are trying to sort out a manager, while say Kevin and Denise are trying to sort out players. But the other two impact the other two. So it's all going to be a mad rush. It has to be a mad rush. And we will end up with players on contracts, which whoever the next manager is might not want them. There you go. Groundhog again, right? Obviously that's the other side of it. But we are where we are. We're in a difficult situation. You're looking down. If I'm, you know, I've been quite vocal about it. I wanted a younger type, you know, Tadesco type. But if I'm Tadesco, you know, people have mentioned, social social never come pottyty, you know, never look and they got big reputation. If I'm, I am a Tadesco or someone along those lines and everything come to me now, you would look and go. What's this going to do for my reputation just right now? If I go in and can and act change quickly enough and they go down, I'm already damaged. So, I guess obviously the field was smaller. That leaves you with people that would you really choose to pick from? I don't know. Or people who are inexperienced, you know, Wayne Rooney, who's got some experience. Evertonian wanted it. David Antelott, he was mentioned yesterday, but he's never managed a minute in football, but he's a very, very good coach by all accounts. A couple of other people, you know, Hassan Hutt, who's an older coach, was mentioned and he's not the right one. So, I guess when, I guess when they're looking at it that way, however they've done this recruitment and he may well have tested the water with Tadesco when he might have gone. Not right now. I know, but I'm just saying he might have done, but if you're looking at, if you're the Everton board, I didn't really like giving them loads of credit, but if you're the board right now, or you're far out of this area and you own this thing and you've got a stadium coming out the ground and you're looking around going, who's been in the trenches before? Sean Dyche has been in the trenches before. He knows the Premier League, hard working, will get the most out of players, whether that's good enough for or whatever. That's what his MO is, isn't it? We work hard, we play for the bats, we let the crowd know that every game we play we're going to make it a difficult game for the opponent. Who knows? You can understand, like you just said before, you can understand why you've gone, he looks the shape of it. But else, he might have set the imagination. Oh, and we all think of Leeds and go, oh, look at the way they're in baton. You know, get beat 6-0, yeah. No, but Leeds are a strong side, aren't they? They're difficult to play against. Whether they're on the right side of the result is a different question. And exactly like you said, they wanted him to change a little bit, and they kept getting baton and he got track. Dice is probably a different thing. I've seen a few times people going, well, it could be like David Moyes. It could be, it could be like David Moyes. He could come in and people are a bit like, okay, we are where we are. And he gets evidence set up in a formation and evidence are organised. And that might work, because it's basically... And it might work. You might have got that outcome, which is fundamentally a manager who you're not sure about comes in, does some... And it is going to be the basics. Frankly, no pun. Frank wasn't doing the basics. No, no, no, no. But you could have had that with a 30-odd, low 40s manager instead. What I guess David would say, John, and you mentioned the word before was risk, is that they would probably look and go, well, the Dominic to this go looks like he's going to be really good, but he's a risk where there's... And it's how much of that risk. Sean Dice is probably much less of a risk, whether he can do that. No, no, I hear that. And we can try in back engineer how they got to a decision. I think the likeliest reason they made this decision is because there was no real alternative. Because as you rightly say, a young up-and-coming manager who's got plaudits, he's doing a good job where he is and so on, doesn't want to queer his bloody CV going into a train crash. And this football club right now this second is a train crash. Then you're always going to have the battle-hardened, the man who's been in the trenches before saying that... He was quoted as, not quoted, quoted, but he's allegedly said, I won't be scared of the situation, because that's what I do. I'm battle-hardened, if you will. And he thinks he can turn his career around. He's had a year out of work, haven't got sacked from a place he'd been at for a long time. He's seen as a one-trick pony, very solid, very archaic, almost 4-4-2, a couple of big strapping centre backs, a couple of big strapping centre forwards and lots of legs in midfield. Guess what, you ain't going to have that here. So he's going to have to adapt anyway. The problem I have with it, and I'm with you by the way, and I think I'll tweet it again, Everton fans will get totally... We got behind Benitez for crying out loud. The manager has to have no concerns that we're not going to be behind him in his players. But we started this little chat-off. It might have been off there actually. The contract lens is going to give a clue as to where the thinking is. If you are... If you are it's two and a half years. Well there you go. That's because if I'm Sean Dij, I'm not stupid lads. I know I'm getting this job because Bielsa doesn't want it. Or you were frightened off by his radical approach or whatever. And there are no real other older... David Anselotti, I don't think... He knows, right? So he wants the security of a long contract. It's a seller's market if he's selling his skills. And damn right if I'm here more his age and I'm saying two and a half years I'm not interested. Two and a half years I'm not interested. I'll be the latest in the long line of people just saying ever ensures couldn't get that act together. Robert, aren't you sure? I have one right now. So bought, do you think a two and a half year contract is going to make our bloody laxagate those are called players? Forget the fact that in six months time he could be gone. But we have to. So you've got the... We're no players of fragile in here. Look at bloody Anthony Gordon being like a watsit, you know? Send off a watsit. Well yeah, maybe because you've got... A dive blonde watsit. Get your bot in here or you get too fine, you know? And his agency will go in, lads, you don't have to do much. There's no manager, right? Or go in and to your locker, whatever. It's hanging with his idol, isn't it? But the point is it's really difficult because elite sports stuff is all in your head as much as anything. And how long is it going to take him to convince the players that he can make a difference? The crazy thing is two expected losses we've got coming up next. So maybe he does get those two or three weeks if you count this as being the first week of that. To get them sorted because the games that follow you've got to get results. I think for me, when you look at it, obviously, like I've just said, you can see why they've gone for it. A lot of people are quite happy with it. People are pleased with it and that's fine because they do... It is okay, you know, I think you're looking and going, it's about Premier League survival. Everton have got this stadium. I think we've talked about it. I think you were saying it's like at least the 50 million shortfall if we got relegated to be a whole. So you can understand that like to far we have to stay in this division. Like I've said many times over the last week or so, but one win of 14, it's not a helpless situation. It's not like the 12-pointer drift and we've basically got to win every game. It isn't that situation right now. The curious thing for me, isn't it? If Everton would have gone, Frank Llanparth sacked, Sean Dice is the number one target because of this, this and this and the point of them. I think there'd be less noise. Do you know what I mean? The curious thing for me is... Sean Dice is unemployed. No, no. I'm right. The curious thing for me is the Bielsa thing. Because we've seen today, Paul Joyce has reported, so we'll take it at face value that Bielsa basically has met with Everton, got on a plane from Brazil and flew here, and has met with Everton and said that he would... he wants the job in the summer or for the reasons you said before. He needs a couple of months to line the place up. He gets them sorted, and he wants to basically work with the under... he wants to work with the under 21s till the summer, which is great. I'll have my money. I'm not having that stress at that delegation fight. But you know what? I've seen a couple of lads here in the 21s I want to work with. But I understand what he's trying to do today. Well, you get to know the club. And it's free consult... We've talked about this before. It's free consultancy. This is still on the board. You've got a fella here going, I'm going to sort this club out from the academy upwards with the idea that the summer I take over. If Everton are considering that, then Sean Dice is on Rocky Grand right now already, isn't he? Because that smacks off. And listen, that could be utter nonsense for all we... I mean, I'm quite sure that conversations are, but what I mean is Everton might go, books closed. We offered them, he didn't want to take it because of that. Sean Dice is our manager. Mark Selby. I get it. It's free to call it where else. Right. Brotherwise, he's on Rocky Grand because that's going to be like the show that they're making, so I'm going over them, isn't it? Where's Kevin Thallwell in this? I just think, again, it shows a clear lack of no real contingency plan or anything in place by the board. What the board should have done in the summer has gone, well, we barely survived it. And in Franklampard's last few months, okay, we had the coach greetings and he built a relationship with the fans. But some of the performances and results were really, really poor towards the back end of last season. And if they had any brain between them, they'd look and go, well, what we'll do is we'll create a short list of managers. For if this doesn't work and we get to November, December, and things aren't looking good, we'll make the change. And Bielsa would have been, I don't know whether he'd been ideal, but he would have been much more suited to come in, as we said, in November, after we'd lost to Lester, who were at the bottom of the table at the time, or there enough. And then Bournemouth, we'd conceded seven goals through a poor Bournemouth team in a week. You could have made that change. There was another report. I don't know whether it was Jules or somebody else saying that. If Bielsa was to come in, he wanted to take them on warm weather training when he'd come into the football club. So there's your opportunity. He comes in, he goes to Australia with them. He's got six weeks, and then he's got a full transfer window. That would be a plan. That would be something in place that would make sense again. And you say a lot of fans that seem to be happy with Daish, and they are. But are we in this position where it's like because we're being given one or the other again, same as last season, when a lot of people were happy with Lampard. That was because his alternative was going on to Sky Sports, effectively crying, saying, give me the job. Were we really happy with Lampard, or was it just the case of, we can't have him. So we've got to show we're happy with him. So we get him. I mean, right, let's, you know, let's steer this towards Sean Daish, because he is going to be the man of the team. We do need to be behind him. We have to be, don't we? Ultimately, we'll all want the same thing, him and us want the same thing now, which is make sure everything remain in this league for next season. And we go from there. Don't want to be here again next year though. No, we don't. We don't. But listen, again, for all, for all of the, the negative aspects of it, and I totally agree with all of that, if Everton, if Everton had reservations, Everton should always, always have a list somewhere of potential managers that we would like to go after, if we... Like Brighton did, and it worked. Exactly. But that's how you, well go club should do it anyway, you should always have your finger on the pulse always. And faster than Brighton did. Took them eight days. They had options. Yes. We'd have to be serious about that, and I think, you know, Cam's right, and I, sorry, interrupted, just saying where's Kevin Thelwell and this, because there's no plan here. You can't, I'm incredulous that if Bielser had said yes, he'd beat the manager. Even though every person who watches football knows, you can't just turn on how he wants to play. He's, he's a stubborn genius, if you want to call him that. He's got one way of playing, it's high intensity, it is what it is, and it can be exciting. And we saw Leeds for a bit, particularly the first year in the Premier League, you know, wow, all this scurring teams to death, so to speak, you know. But you don't even put him on your list if you want to point him in the middle of the season. To survive. In a few days, to survive. So you've got to assume that that's not where Kevin Thelwod was going, you know. We said that yesterday when we were at lunchtime, didn't we? If Kevin is driving the process, they're not the last two guys he ends up with, because they're so poles apart. So to me it almost sounds like maybe, just maybe, this is trying to get semi-positive, you're trying to get it to me, right? That the club, let's call it the club, the club and the process produce Sean Dysch. The owner wanted something a bit Hollywood sexy. And cos he has the final say, they have to run it the way they've run it. Which would mean Dysch was the right place then. Yeah, yeah. So they've got the following the process. What we have to look at now is obviously at Burnley. We'll have a look at his league plays and it is Sean Dysch's work that he's done at Burnley. He'd better eyesight than me to see that. So there you go. The 17-18 season, he barely finished 7th with 54 points. Everton Mareth. 18-19, they finished 15th on 40 points. Everton Mareth again, those heady days. 1920, they finished 10th on 54 points. Everton finished 12th. 2021, they finished 17th with 39 points. Everton with 10th, 21-22, they finished 18th on 35 points. And Everton finished 16th. But they sucked in before that. They sucked anyway wasn't he? On 24 points. I think he done it. All of the positives, because he's a manager and I guess if he was sat here and I don't know which hat he done because Ned said, is he Kevin Thell? I don't know whether Ned was thinking a Scooby-Doo or something, I don't know. He would say, I was in a Bentley and I didn't have a big budget and I managed to keep them up in a league which is really competitive even though we had no real money to spend. They weren't on big wages. They were horrible to play against Bentley. They were horrible to play against. They won a like Amfield, won an old Trafford of the thing. They won a show show, so they won an ass. But they had big wins at times. So he got the most, extracted the most out of what he had. So that's a real positive isn't it that you've got a manager there who can get the most, because one thing we've said, and quite sure you've said on your shows, welcome is when Frank Lampard was struggling, we know that he needs reinforcements. But was he extracting the most out of those players? No, with Sean Dice for the best part of his time at Bentley, he did extract that. Everyone has a cycle. Is cycle of Bentley might have been three years and yet he stayed for eight, or it might have been four years and he ended up staying much longer, and just in the end the players just stopped responding to that. It takes when he got them into Europe. When he got them into Europe, which is unbelievable when you think about it, with the resources he got now, he went into Europe, he was pouring Europe up again, and that's what will have attracted Everton, and I think Evertonians, you feel like Evertonians, carefully not speaking to people, you aren't speaking for me, would look and go, well, I go to Godderson or you, you go up and down the country, and too often I just see the players going through the motions with that. It's not like when that happened. That last half an hour against West Ham was so grand. He just passed the ball between the two centre backs and we just let them have it. You could tell playing against them he'd give up. That's awful, isn't it? So we find ourselves. This is what David Moyes did at the end of Walter Schmidt's reign, it was that, Middlesbrun, the FA Cup, Everton had give up at one minute past three that day. Moyes come in, unfashionable, came in and put a rocket up their ass and he ended up winning games, no-one thought he would, he didn't look like scoring a goal, let alone winning games of football, he ended up with five wins, I think, over Everton's table. So that's the kind of effect you hope him for. I don't know whether he can do it or he can't, but I think, well, we will back him because like you said before, everyone backed off of him. He stylised aggressive manager as Moyes was when he came from Preston who comes from a lower league with something to prove at a time when bosses held sway over players and so on and we are suspending our honesty with ourselves, I think, in the sense that we apparently are going to appoint a manager on a multi-year contract and if you, that says, if we get relegated we'll stick with him and hope he brings us back when the team he'd been with for many years and had good years as soon as they knew they were going to be relegated they sacked him and he's been out of work ever since and I don't remember him being associated with any job while there's lots of managers have lost their jobs in the last year I think we're being optimistic and hoping against reason that this guy does the business right and players will have those thoughts as well players will have those thoughts and unless he hits the street running and we really start moving straight away this shower will give up and will blow out the Premier League in a whimper and we'll have this guy with two years left on his contract and the owners and the leadership will know they gave up and got us relegated and we'll have the manager and we'll start this charade again right but isn't it fair to say and that's all a product of poor leadership poor decision making and so on for a number of years management and therefore in our hour of need and I don't dispute it I can well see your logic and I agree with it and we talked about it yesterday lunchtime how to make this decision the safest decision for them out of them two is Daish right you opened up this little show with if you were thinking three years hence Bielsa but that was a real hairy one a real risk call wasn't it because you just don't know what you're going to get right and I just think you've got that little spectre which Joyce has put there is that Bielsa is in someone's head just waiting for the season to finish he knows it and then get the pre season see that what does that say to Daish though what message does that give to Daish that's what I mean he's read that article he said he's going to come in and do the under 20 he should drop anchor and say I want a two and a half year contract because if you're going to get rid of me in May I want to pay him for it see for him if that is and we don't know who that is we're just second guessing off the back of a headline for him if he keeps everything up and everything changing he's very much like Shyamala Daish then isn't he he can say to me on the go I don't mind but I've got a big bag of money but I've kept them up and then he becomes automatically more attractive no it makes his reputation stronger it probably damages Everton's reputation again but this we're way past that we're way past that we're quite clearly but not are we because the one thing is and this is again I can go back to when Carlo left and we were looking around and we wanted to get him positive I'm not going there because they don't give managers the chance you keep doing it, you keep shopping and shopping and shopping any manager worth his salt or with a reputation we're looking going there and the minute first little rocky patch I have you chase me and I think this is probably why Everton didn't chase Franklin path after Bournemouth they were probably trying to we're trying to give a manager as much chance as possible but if they really like you've just said before if Bielsa really was the thing that was burning in their brain they should have gone we don't keep the wrong man in the job trying to be the right reasons I want to let you stay in this job as long as possible to turn it around they should have gone this fella would require a pre-season and we've got a bonus pre-season in the middle of the season this year just imagine it in an alternative reality Kevin Thelwell is talking with the leadership in the real pre-season basically any time after the end of last season and he's thinking what kind of football club do we want what style of play do we want I'm going to talk to Frank about types of players that we need to recruit we need to know a style of play we know what works in this league and if you oversimplify it let's just call it the way Bielsa does it modified so you don't destroy the players but let's just say it's that style it's high intensity, it's high pressing lots of legs, pace bloody bloody bloody that's how we're going to do it and we tell Frank that as well and then you see how it goes you've got to conclude if that's what you've got to a plan that when you get your second bite of the cherry which is another pre-season you conclude that manager can't do it now the manager might argue because you didn't get me to play us just fair dues but any time you're on that whole process you could be talking to Bielsa right? that would require a plan wouldn't it and he goes into all his research he gets his big folders and all his powerpoint presentations whatever you do and at the end of the first half of the season he pops up and goes there you go that's what you need to do that's your free consultancy on the whiteboard there and they go let's change the manager now sorry Frank we're going for it not where we are in the last week and the man flies in from Brazil with loads of bags and stuff some people listen some people but we are where we are I think the thing with dice as well it will be very simple hard working, battling simplistic there won't be any over the top I think lampard at times was guilty of trying to do too much trying to implement too much it was just work hard just work hard and fight and kick it up there and then when we done that we started to win games I think dice because it will be very simple it will be hard working but then again that stands for the place to continue I think people are getting behind but then the place can change at any moment the place can go on you know we're going to have some you can do some reading that I guess of people are saying things but we need an announcement we've got a manager we then need the transfer window to close so we know where we're at this is who we've got as a manager this is the squad that we've got and I actually think that we're trying to get some degree of positiveness because we're all a bit miserable generally about what's been going on in recent times is this kind of manager who may have good motivational skills he's certainly got good organization skills he certainly gives the impression if you look at what he did at Burnley he can extract stuff from players who were prepared to buy in and that's your problem of the ones the buy-in isn't it? yeah well it's a Natalie Gordon or whatever but someone can have a hard talk with him if he's still here when the windows close mate well he will once the windows close absolutely and what Meshiri calls a 12 mat ai uslo we can do this together totally behind them we can do this together our home form is worse than our away form from a getting points perspective we can fix that together a hard working team but a hard working manager and hard working fans we can fix that but the total conundrum about that is that keeps you up and decision makers say let's keep the same manager then he might literally be a six month keep you in the division manager but then conversely he might do really well and that's what we have to look at but I think he has to keep to what he knows works not try and reinvent himself look I only play 4-4-2 because that's what I had at Burnley I'm going to play 3-5-2 no no just get the points lad get the points but it's horrendous mate Mike Barrett says another appointment indicative of reactive management it seems like the decline of the standards and the lack of future planning of our once great club Josie Redden says I can't wait to see Michael King back in the start in 11 Tom Newton says I've got a sneaky feeling be else I will be our manager next season regardless of what division we are in and that's the problem if that story is real Terry says the correct appointment in my opinion I feel like people will look back at their doubts further down the line and wonder what they were thinking Sean Dice is a bit of evidence but some people can't say it yet now the club needs to give them a chance a support them Derek says there are better managers out there but we've got a new manager in quickly and had a decent time to do so I think Dice can get some work done for us I agree with that we have better players and more money than Burnley I always thought with a little bit more Dice could be a great manager so we will see absolutely great opportunity for him Maeus says afternoon fellas happy with Dice the most sensible option and now we have to back him the situation we have ourselves in is not ideal but hey ho main objective now is to stay up and be a Premier League club once a new stadium comes around I think Dice can do it Will Greggs on fire says there's a video from the coach's voice explaining in the 442 we've done that Yannick says not my first choice and the players still tough to see where goals and players come from he's not exactly a striker's dream to play under is he from a tactical he will play to up front though will he Ashley Barnes and we said Dice is on the phone to Ashley Barnes Jeff Hendrick and Matted tell him Taki and McNeill were getting the bambag together Brian says when's this professional minority investment will they make a streamline Lamborghini but with Ford Anglia seats and a Capri engine we put Denise for the Ford Anglia seats and the Capri engine who's the Lamborghini looks like a Lamborghini but it's basically got four Capri seats and which is Denise do we look like a Lamborghini I understand what he means no use looking good he's saying will they make us to this new passion I think what Brian said will they still keep them people in charge they'll do whatever is necessary to make the finances look better which would be well on all the answer Larry FC says he says happy with Dice we need to be realistic about the situation we find ourselves in the four games after Arsenal on the shite our pivotal forum it's just about being there will be it's just about being difficult to beat as we look too easy on the Frank we did that was what it is Milzy says no matter who it is let's face it it's a roll of the dice Jake says alright let's go to see Cambach I have to say my immediate reaction on Frank was to go and get dice my feelings with them mixed with other manatees names are through in the mix but I think it's the most sensible choice and that guy is right and part of the dysfunction is that as we said it was me wasn't it if the process produced was well done for not letting the owner overrule you or maybe actually it was just me else I said that a couple of days ago I won whoever Kevin Talwell once and then at least we know if that's not the right man then Kevin Talwell's not the right man either there's no point in having a director of football and then saying and then saying we're going to go with somebody else and Brad said it before all the young managers all the ones you know every one of them might have said no he looks good photoshopped on stone cold body he looks like stone cold which is great Sean Dice he looks like Dice I think what he will do is he'll break everything down simplistically he obviously he comes across as someone who'll be able to go you're a chance to meet him on the plane I don't think he suffers so he'll do that I think we'll know the players have given everything and once you don't want to do it he's done it before he'll be out the team I mean Dwight MacMillard, he played for them last season he's out the team so he's gone off the goxon we just go off the goxon to get in isn't he I think the other thing as well is he is imposing just this figure in his band I think sometimes for players you need that kind of you know if they feel a little bit intimidated by him I think everything needs that I think too many times football players have changed you're right you know David Moyes coming Walter Smith and Artie Knox you have to lock the gym doors and go on there what have you got to say you know and all that 10 days you can't do anybody you go to H.A.C. right now but bring your agent in and won't play for the club again because it has changed I think it's changed for that kind Alan Stubbs was saying it when he was in you know you'd have a go with the dressing room and all that you get it out there now it's people are like oh I don't want to say it the early days not upsetting me mate, I'm not upsetting that you were crap today and then you get it out clear the end and the next one you get 16 on the week the early days are going to be interesting because they'll do the one on one stuff won't they which you'll talk to the players as a group you'll talk to them individually you know how do you feel what are your thoughts the magic question ask every single squad player who's in the dressing room and what's going on wrong I think we know the answer to that one now absolutely the coaching thing and I think he pauses ever so slightly because he's basically in the foothills saying you've got to keep it really simple for footballers he doesn't say the punchline but you've got to keep it really simple and so his view is rigid if you like 4-4-2 it's not a rigid 4-4-2 at all is it? it's not a rigid 4-4-2 at all you know but he can say to individual players when this happens you do that when this happens you do that you've got to remember in a 4-4-2 very very basic I've been speaking to Donald just before the same thing, you know catform or everything I couldn't hear that so I looked forward to that coming out it's that easy in a 4-4-2 you get one striker and I get the other or there's one striker and one of us picks them and you float then it's just in our position you right back mark that side you midfielders no you go ice day you two strikers right, I'll split the centre back and the right back you split the centre back and the left back and we do our work if it's 4-4-1-1 the 10 comes I'll go across you drop in and come that way if I go to the full back you drop in and come this way I'll call it lock on same thing yeah this is what we were told day one we play 4-4-2 I'd always take the right back and the centre first centre back and you do the work and if the right back goes past me and runs and does something I get bollocked because I haven't done my job if one of the midfielders runs past one of them there's no hiding but the other thing and I've spoken to different coaches about this the formation don't actually mean anything when you're on a football pitch what's Man City's formation when they're on a pitch that's it, there you go because out of possession it's all behind the ball do your job do your job, wherever you're up against get the better of him do your job, if you see a player there on his own stand on him the key elements of this will be set plays whichever is horrific it'll be when we're getting wide into those wide areas can we create for the best header of the game and the best header of the ball in the Premier League can we give them the right ball in for them to attack can we get bodies in those penalty areas someone put on why funny really because it's basics league is one of our moderators a quote of my thing of the false press whichever is greater just give me the copyright for the false press and make it look like and make it look like I'm running out to get you but I'm not there Ross Barclay invented that and he put the goal barely scored when he beat us 1-0 and Jeff Hendricks scored in 2017 and Snidlin's perfect, that was just a little jog the goal they must pass the ball about 60 times before it goes in the net and it does knock on it our players can't get near it passing it and passing it goes out it comes back at Hentwick but to him we lose 1-0 under Cumin it was so they can't play football I guess what people like Terry will say Owen Parks will definitely say this because Owen Parks loves him which is fine Owen's loved them figures he will say we're better players he was doing he was limited kind of says this himself he was doing what he could to get the best results again we go back and say was Frank Lampard doing that your manager's job is to set your team up give the people the instructions and hope when you cross that white line they do the job John that fella runs up and down he comes out so we make sure you run with him nobody's bossing on them 10 minutes and he runs away from your scores and I go John sorry Gaffer but I already wonder that and that's what he's saying about simplifier he also wants concentration because again if people watch that whatever it is the coaches the 4-4-2 thing he's talking about actually he's talking about Liverpool the crossfield ball that was the one when he beat Liverpool but you do the crossfield ball and probably league teams do it all the time because they're trying to break down these formations and he talks about if you like my right back has to be looking at the guy who's managed to get the space to play the diagonal and you can't mask that sort of pass so he's saying look at body shape and go early and you become the trigger and you move over with your you're being called very negative all right no one can be saying I'm very negative person in the house we're talking positive right now do we think Sean Beich will bring highest standards to Everton than what Frank Lambert had on and off the pitch absolutely elaborate please I just think his standards are higher he won't suffer fools and he won't push his foot around he seems like more of a demanding character and I don't know Frank I've never sat with him but Sean Beich just seems more like if he was shouting at you and again you don't know what you can and can't do but if he was having a go you'd probably listen more so than if Frank Lambert was having a go not that you wouldn't listen to Frank Lambert but he just seems more like like you said before exactly I mean he wears a white shirt in the sleet and snow I'm freezing it ass in the night that it's jumping on but he will sniff us on even like a wreck he won't be taking mundies off will he no he gives the impression again that his messages to the collective the group of players and then the individual players will be crystal clear which says you just soundbite it as there'll be no hiding places therefore individual players will have to be individually accountable and if you're not doing what he tells you to do you don't play absolutely and his overall Premier League career stuff is more points per game by a long shot than what Lampard was producing so we will get more points per game from now onwards as we've got to this point so it's just whether it's enough on paper I think we will as well whenever we finish in the league our points per game will be more going forward than that and he's also got I know the easy way to look at the next two games he's got two difficult games in the standings but he's also got a situation where if he gets something out of Arsenal it boosts him massively we haven't lost out to Arsenal for five years don't say that and the crowd are going to be full on it of course and if you get something even if it's just a point then all of a sudden that's a point that nobody thought we were going to get everyone expects us to not just lose the next two not lose them horrifically and I don't think that's necessarily going to be the case Arsenal are home Arsenal's superb and may well win the Premier League they're playing brilliantly and he looks so dangerous but Arsenal are home Arsenal are home Arsenal are home with a new manager and all that Everton Everton have got a good record a full main stand everyone's in their seats OK I want to move this on question for you Baz Will Neo Mopai benefit most from the manager coming in No No why not cos I think Alice Sims probably got a bit of a chance dissimilar aren't they because of the height completely disagree and joins up and makes the extra centre like Ashley Dingill did Ashley Barnes Ashley Barnes is a bruiser I think they all should benefit shouldn't they everyone of them should benefit I think Neo Mopai this is one of the things that I couldn't quite understand with Frank Lampard when we bought Mopai because he was asked cos he's small compared to like the Dominic Calvert people were saying it's the chance they're going to play together if you remember at first he went that's not really the thinking and you were like that's not the thinking so the thinking should play one there must be a plan B why haven't you bought a 643 or are you going to change the system when everybody didn't change the system I think Mopai the issue ever have when Mopai plays in the one is he wants to drop so deep and get involved in the game his average positions rose on the half wailer you want to pin the centre back you want to stretch the pitch and that might be set to the pitch wide and it might be set to the pitch lengthwise and everything haven't been doing that and when Mopai plays he comes and comes deeper and deeper and deeper which means that your centre forward or he might take it in nicely take it on his chest and then he's trying to link the play but there's a huge gap in behind he's never going to get there cos he's not quick but in a two with Dominic Calvert losing he's cutting things down and not on things maybe that's how you maybe you would get a bit more out of him Do you think of benefit the most then? Perhaps the tallest squad in the division Depend on what the line of it is Well clearly yeah but that plays to those basic simple instruction stuff around this 4-4-2 if it's a 2 rather 4-4-1-1 that's where you have Mopai isn't it if it's 4-4-2 then it's either 4-4-1-1 4-4-1-1 Michael Keane Michael Keane Michael Keane's back in the running Tremendous Do we think that because obviously Everton you've got me and you've got Tarkovsky, Cody, Goffrey Keane Do we think that Do we think he might move Ben Goffrey to one of the full back positions I think he's got to move Ben Goffrey to one of the full back positions if I'm being honest at the moment Michael Keane was in absolutely horrific horrific form obviously he was out with an injury or whatever he was out with but had Ben Goffrey had been available last weekend I'd have had him at left back over Michael Keane to be honest because I think Michael Keane was just at this period now where he's not going to be helped unless he's taken out for a little bit Coleman similarly is now at the point where he doesn't even look good enough to be a number 2 back up right back so you could put him either way but I think for this way Michael Keane all shame is at the moment don't offer anything going forward don't offer anything at all going forward so you may as well have what would be a better defender no I'm just saying if you were putting Ben on either side you may as well have somebody that's quicker and a better defender put Ben on the right and leave Michael Keane when you mean I'd probably rather have Ben on the left and keep Coleman and I wonder if Patterson must be fit around now mostly maybe next week do you agree with that would you take one on the mountain Michael's not playing well at the moment I'm just wondering under Sean Dice can it depend depends how I want to show back the gold doesn't it that's the thing is Ben Goffrey's got the piece to drive with the book he's got no left foot so ultimately he gets to the edge of Loch Nass to turn back so that's why you want him on the right obviously Patterson's the future isn't he he's the sum when you're trying to mould he's out for a while well he was six weeks wasn't he he's been out for about four weeks so he might be two or three weeks so you would hope he'd be back to you makes you wonder what kind of player Dice is going to want us to bring in because we still need that piece we've only got 15 minutes to do it best make a decision Scotch has a bad spare they're going to sign Dice for their under 23 team and that's going to come in SPC says an issue currently with Everton from the outside Loch Ninn is the attitude of players Dice has got to be the sort of animal who will fix that isn't he you would think so wouldn't you he seems to be the type who at least at least won't have any kind of we've had three in the media haven't we and that's just what we've had in the media over the course of the last two weeks three players disrupting the squad in various different ways that is a bit mad isn't he that it's all filtered out Daniel Ausch has great appointments love you guys but you're already hammering the club again and disrespectful so I literally what I think I'm saying mustn't be coming out of the way I'm saying it because I haven't been negative about Dice at all on camera have I so I don't know where at this moment I'd rather have Dice than be also but that's because it's more now but it shouldn't be more now because if the club was ran properly it wouldn't need to be in this position but who knows listen Sean Baish could be brilliant he could be brilliant he could come in and short the whole club out get the attitude straight out of everyone doing the basics and all these players might go do you know what I might be doing the basics because this is where I'm at we extract more out of these players will be alright and to do that you've got to get them back to the basics and he's going to do that I agree all those players the hard-working ones they'll embrace it and Ana will embrace it presumably Targ will embrace it because he's been there before maybe Dwight McNeill so you can get a call going in the right direction absolutely Diolch yn fawr i chi Can I intervene? Go on Newcastle United are close to agreeing a fee for Anthony Gordon talks over a structure deal totaling 45 million on our advanced stage there is ground belief a deal can be done over the weekend great 45 million up front over all the add-ons all the add-ons I think structured that's about payments isn't it really but maybe it's a good headline number for a player that we all think has not got a future here now there's absolutely no point in keeping them he doesn't want to be here he showed over the last four days take the money the club have managed to do it that's good because it was turning to a buyers market through his behaviour and stuff be honest last week before it come out or even Monday when Lampard was shocked before it was reported about any money to Newcastle before Newcastle were even in the hearts what would you have taken for him what was to be the minimum you'd have said similar 25 million 25 to 30 it's good for FFP if he doesn't want to be I don't know the lad it seems like he's kind of made this peace with moving on and maybe them kids whether in his car or being around his car was the last thing for the minute I'm not really that bothered or I've got to get out whatever whatever whatever then there's no point in keeping them and get it done quickly so then we can go and Tuesday four days it's difficult because as you get them let me ask you it's going to be another deadline what are your thoughts on Sean Daish come on I think don't necessarily buy into this thing of he shoots everything because that he shoots everything is a moist thing he's the same as moist don't get me wrong that's not me saying I don't like him at this time but that is he's the same as moist that doesn't mean that's the same as he is what Everton are because Everton aren't that kind of thing Everton I've got a long tradition of not being that kind of thing I actually think if Michelley want to be Elsa then I'm kind of happy we haven't got be Elsa that's what you said isn't it if the process has produced Daish if the process has produced Daish that's progress for us I've listened to everything you've said I completely agree and afterwards we'll be going for a pint and a load of pies there's no far better you know that? he's Mr Bean there Mr Bean next to Daish hey everybody you know you know Evan Minidge now listen when you look at the candidates there's a lot of names on there that might take a lot of time to convince and that's the biggest BLC the timing is just completely wrong I actually loved the fact that he said I'd take over the 21s that chose a man with a plan in all honesty BLS Daish I honestly don't I'm not like over the moon about it because I'm not over the moon about Evan because I'm simply not over the moon about Evan at the moment very much on the naughty stuff for me no matter what they do he probably is the right person whether we like it or not the thing about it is I think I went on Radio 5 a few years ago and actually he said we should get Daish as the manager Ian Wright sort of conditioned me to say in a way he was like oh he'd be a great manager and I was like yeah yeah yeah no problem and then I went on Radio 5 again a few when we got Aladdice and I said that's where we are as a football club that we've got Aladdice use it as a stick to beat the manager use it as a stick to beat the club give the manager all your backing you should get as out of it but look at where we are and say who got us in the mess of where we are right now give the support to the manager and back him but keep looking at the people who got us in this position saying how did we get it and how did we get away from it and how does this never happen again and I know we spoke off air as well but listen if he comes in keeps us up then you leave him in place for as long as his contact is as far as we're concerned this is our penance this is us paying for what we've done in the last few years if we start being idiots about this again and going well we've stayed up so now it's time to go and get the big shiny thing no no let's keep our heads for the next few years until we get in the stadium because this is our penance it really is for the way we've been running and listen he gets my back I like him as a fella I like him as a human being apart from being saying he was a red bull of course he's a red he's not from the pool so let's just back him and get on with it the simple as that I think that's exactly what will happen he's a good fella I've listened to him on loads of things I've seen in fact the high performance podcast he done with Jay Humphrey the other fella I watched that a while ago before he was even linked with everything he's brilliant I love listening to him because he's just seems like a nice fella he's a good soccer and all that the proof is in the pudding when they come in can they do it Frank Lampard's a nice fella Roberto Martin is a nice fella but it can you do it that's all it comes down to he will get Evertonians back and there's no doubt about that and therefore now what Everton's biggest thing is to get the contract signed it's what they do now because they've got to get them some players I've seen in Dye if that's how he says name in Dye he's playing in the championship and doing well he's one who's being mentioned as a forward player I'm really at that stage when I'm just thinking anyone you've got to have news people who are going to you know sign improve us and please don't leave it until Tuesday and even for him I guess the hard thing for the club is has been not having a manager first but we have done 20 days of a transfer window with a manager no but now but Everton is exactly attractive but for all the weeks and gone this is a joke I've been going on plays should have been lined up in September plays should have been lined up in August the reality is and what I'm saying is if you're on the other side of the phone and you haven't fell well and you're saying to come come and play and you're looking go and make your bottom you haven't got a manager your manager looks like he's about to be sacked and you can't pay my club what they want and you're not offering me why would you on Tuesday you might go I'm not there to get in the game here just right now you might be going a few clubs are going to come looking at me at the moment and we'll see where we are and that's why it might end up doing deals on Monday and Tuesday and that is where we are hello Ashley Barnes sorry it was Matt saying in Dyer's class the blues as a greed until you see the text after stab Chris Rankin says cwydus he's not coming let's get over it I can't see cwydus want to come in but there you go Matt said Sean didn't want him Sean might not want him Max says I think Dyer's is a good appointment we don't have to play it should be elsewhere I think everyone agrees and he himself obviously agrees he's a manager who needs the six or seven weeks of the pre-season to give himself that momentum to get going doesn't he it's one of them things isn't he he says give me hope dice give me hope dice fair enough Damian says he sees us as an upgrade from Bernie he knows we're a big club so he's got my back and hope he gets us out of this mess did you hear him on Talksport in the summer he was on Talksport in the summer and he was asked about everything and I think he was asked about before Lampard was he approached something like he was like no it was never appropriate it's a great club people's club great fans he's right though isn't he he's right but it was just a blatant example of I'll keep that one keep first though just for a little bit he said I'll let him go for a run you're not names I don't run Matthew says and I can create and score let's get him that would be if we can't get if we can't get bigger names kind of thing I mean not that you should what the data tells you it's the kind of players you want you'd hope and we linked with him about 10 days ago I think so you'd hope that conference someone maybe we're going oh this kid's not bad we're having a little luck with him they're the ones we want Andy they're definitely the ones we want Dave Long says that is a great manager go on someone should put on Twitter and send you out training with Benny McCarty in the background which clearly means that he's training with the kids so why aren't we banging the door down to get him in let's have him on loan perfect for a loan for us give man 60 a player who's on loan in the Premier League they're not really going to play him he'll be a big party maybe whether he wants to use another thing but why not he's going to note towards the end of this window get him in who's Benny McCarty SHOT UP who's Benny McCarty he's pretending he knows now get him in as well we nearly did what's Benny bringing me up to these days get him in as well get him back get good old Benny back he's still in Scotland I think so yes it's personal for me on premier maths says I thought when Thelwell was employed this lack of planning would be a thing of the past regarding player and management recruitment there seems no plan or vision is it just because of the mess that went before him he's still trying to implement structures I think for Kevin Thelwell I might be wrong but I think for Kevin Thelwell he has put other structures in place I think the problem you probably find regardless of what the owner says I think the owner is still a little bit of an issue dabbling and I think also the other thing which I imagine would really stop you doing your job is the teams generally not very good and keeps getting itself in a situation where the owner has to keep acting if everything could have two seasons of 10th 11th just steady I think you could you'd be able to plan a little bit better I think you could you could really identify and that might be your identify the balance is actually not very good but these players are stable enough now that we can I think we need to get almost to and this might be Sean Dyson this might be what Ted is talking about you get to a level where you go we've got a structure of the team the team plays this way the team is capable of doing this the decent enough players we're writing a Premier League season we're not going to be terrified of going down yet we might be getting for Europe but this manages this is the best we can do so we're aspiring to be what we've sacked managers for achieving previously which is how far we've fallen but you've got to lay foundations down I think what we have for the club that individual players don't forget this club finished if it ended up in 10th place but it had 59 points 18 months ago and it was second unboxing day and therefore that summer with Carl we would have been expecting more players and this time an attack on Europe we got rid of them and we got rid of all our creativity Hamers has come out and said in an interview laugh up and eat it and all this and then when it got round on it was two years old first conversation with him which is absolutely nonsense don't forget that this Moise Keen was really good for Evan but he chased him as well so goals that fell away chase to full back chase the whole medical team exactly so if you would have say Evan would have appointed differently that summer Evan for a club might be in a totally different place now Carlo would have stayed might have been in a totally different place now it didn't and we are where we are so now you've got to look forward last season we ended up the penultimate game needing to win to stay up now they are going to end up having to do a similar thing to try to stay up again so therefore if anyone come in here now a genie and tell you what lad I'll give you 10th for the next two seasons you'd go alright then go with no stress as we build obviously every football fan us included would go that sound but you know when we've been 10th can we then try and get into Europe because that's what we want European football in the Premier League is not difficult to achieve I don't think winning the league is really difficult Champions League tough you've got to have top top players to conference I know it's different not that much of a stretch but you've got to you've at least got to have goals in your team and you've got to be organised, evident I haven't got either of them and you've got to be hopeful I mean right now our position in the league is better than Newcastle's was this time last season okay they got the players in the window which we might not do they've got a decent coach and they've got on a run they also had new owners and a new mentality well that's part of making the feel good factor and we're still going to have that noise off the field until it gets resolved but at least stability on the playing side buys you some time to do exactly and you can convince people then can't you if you're stable you can go look we're a mess but we're fixing it we know we need a right winger and we've got our eye on this, this and this and we're bringing this fella in and we all get excited he's going to get us more points don't forget one of the big things forget about whether to win anything and we don't win any matches we don't win enough matches we haven't even got players in our team who kids love they're gone, all of that fifth season was the last one I've seen people love Ritchie Arlison we never done that but Moise Keam is a young Italian Anthony Gordon was moving towards it he got sped up didn't he he should have given him another year we haven't got anyone at the moment and that's almost another thing as a kid certainly you look, do you win now have they got anyone I really like have they got a gold score and I can go I love, I'm getting him I'm usually hitting now the only thing we've got going for us at the moment is there's a grand and new stadium so we have to we have to get ourselves stable enough to start putting the other bits in so people buy back into it and go you know what yet we are moving in the right direction other clubs have done it why is it so difficult for us and I think this is where the frustration will come from when you see Brentford and Brighton doing different things new things you've seen in the progress you've just mentioned them Newcastle United okay they've spent more money than people think get it, get it but with that it's a new fresh look for them so they've been able to run on the success but they're doing really well they're 90 minutes away from the final already and they're in the race for the Champions League in a year after being in the bottom and that's the point of making it not that we could be where they are but we could be better we could be better than what we are and that's what it all comes down to what people thought of how a promising coach but no one really took a punt on him Evertonian but no one, I mean he wasn't at the top of it he's mentioned on everything but I still say 24 months ago if you'd have put out the owl in a conversation to replace Carlo Ancelotti he wouldn't have been happy he would have been happy given who ended up replacing Carlo Ancelotti but I don't remember how being linked with Everton and what are we going for him for he's failed at Bournemouth and this that and you know that it's alright lad, hope you're well, hello Tom it's hard to convince the majority of Everton fans, Dice type style has passed itself by dating this league when the worst version possible of progressive football was Roberto Martinis hopefully one day we join the modern outlook on football that finds the majority of teams over the tube yeah so well Tom listen I think people are terrified of Everton being relegated so and Sean Dice for a lot of people is a comfortable option we also don't know his ceiling baby he might have a better club and a bigger club he might progress himself we might have a team at the end of the day and I'm one for doing it as well mate I look and go I'd love us to do this and I'd love us to do this right at the end of the day when I sit down a good person if I see the team giving everything and scoring goals and having shots I'm happy we have 800 passes and ends with a goal brilliant but you get the same joy as a cross going in or a shot it's about right now I think for Evertonians they just want to have no real stress of going down we want to see us have an opportunity to win most games you know I just want to win a game just a game of 40 I didn't say win most games it's unity it's where I am it's not losing we've lost just don't lose stick a live memory behind the ball people say about being negative and being depressed and then you think about stuff like that I'm just worried that we don't play this weekend to be honest I can't wait are you don't lose what are you doing standing up Paul Goldschir is good news he's managed it out and a new one in within a week that is good news Andy McGregor says I'd like to remind people that clubs like to control the narrative so players are always made to look worse than the club it's classic PR tactics have to get the full story sometimes he's obviously talking about Anthony Gordon hello Andy says the worry with transfers now is over paying for average British players with little sell on the club does not need this type of plan no and that is what I would hope where Kevin Thelwell will go say like just for argument say Sean Dice is like get Michael Antonio like £80 million for him £50 million you would hope Kevin Thelwell will go on now mate but see this in Dye in the championship he will take the A for himself and score and he works hard he's better value for this football club let's do that cos he'll still run like Antonio and that is what you would hope Everton's Everton's through line is it was certainly what was the case with Danny Ings and he's ended up getting the reins people are going oh well done really so we had the joke he's going to get in but he come on against Everton and surprisingly he didn't score he's already scored against Everton this season that would have been two teams cos he classed Billard as Clariton Blue the two teams in Clariton Blue that he's played against he's played against Everton this season so yeah listen let's just see what happens I think he will be given the chance and so we should I think he'll be back and so we should I think he'll be more out of the players than Frank Lambrath did I think he probably will he said it before his character the type of character he is I think he's honest enough that I think a lot of players would want to play for him he knows a couple of the players as well and he already knows some of the players so let's just get behind them and hopefully hopefully he can get us attacking with a little bit more of it we didn't do that a bernie but sometimes you've got to give people room to grow he might fall well short we might be sat here in six months going who can we get now we might be sat here in six months going wonder what players Dysch is going to get you just don't know do you I just want to be happy but you know Scott Blunt says will Toffy TV have any Dysch related Dysch Dysch that just say Dysch Gravy how do you know he likes Gravy 4, 4, F and 2 that's a good one a pint it's all ofank it's all ofank but I was just spreading the information I had needed but you've got 4, 4, F and 2 off every single interview Sean Dysch has ever done Felly mae'n gael ei gael i dda chi. 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