 Sorry, I forgot to start it. Sorry, Larry. Yeah, yeah, that's okay. So I'm. Would make sense for us to just. Start that transition and then let the budget committee pick up. As they see fit in terms of how they want to. Structure their oversight of capital planning. Larry, when you say that. Capital planning is kind of limbo. What do you mean by that? Well. You know, while we're having these discussions right now. Right. They haven't been meeting recently. And then my understanding is that they have no. They haven't been meeting plan at the moment. So. That's, that's kind of where, where they're, where they're at. There was some discussion in capital planning. Over the last couple of months about what their role really is. And. And there was some, some. You know, Tension. I guess I could say over. Sort of what, you know, the capital planning. Committee really does and. And there were certain members of the capital planning committee who. We're thinking that, you know, part of their mission was to. You know. Have an active role in the construction of the capital plan. You know, And so. You know, an advisory committee, like, like the budget committee is an advisory committee, you know, to be the public's voice of oversight. Into how we do capital planning. Which is a much sort of narrower scope. And so that, and I think that met with some. Disappointment. That reality amongst certain members of the capital planning committee. We're looking at what the budget committee is doing, what the budget committee is doing, and what the budget committee is doing to meet at a specific date. That answer your question. Yeah. It does. It raises a little bit of. And the flag might be too strong a word. In that capital planning is. A critical and. Part of the budgeting price. We're going into the budgeting cycle. Right. So. given short shrift just because the committee is the model about its advisory role versus how much their recommendations are really needed, which leads me to believe that maybe the suggestion that you look into expanding the budget committee to say, I'm just throwing a number out there seven. And I'm presuming that would have to be acted on at town meeting though, so it wouldn't take effect until the following year, correct, on that. That's correct. Yeah, yeah. I would be really, I would be an advocate for that expansion of the budget committee to give them a little bit more, give them more hands on that and then delegate through the budget committee to a subcommittee the specific task of managing capital planning and making recommendations for capital planning. I don't really see why, I don't know the history of it, but I don't really see why this entity is sort of out there doing something that's integral to budgeting in the first place. That makes sense. Curie has his hand up here. Okay. Yeah, thanks. If I may, I just don't want to disagree with Larry but I have a little different perspective on one thing he said about the capital planning committee not planning to meet. And historically they don't meet unless there's leadership coming from administration saying it's time for a meeting and getting together the materials to discuss. It's been strongly dependent on when Mel was there it was the town manager and then that was not a tradition that was continued for some reason it's been more of the town manager than the financial director. But so I just want to make it clear that for the time I've been around I don't think you can blame the capital planning committee for not meeting that hasn't been what they do. They are there when requested is more of the way I've seen it. So Tom, to pick up on your thought there does it make sense for us to look to transition this at town meeting? It would give time for the budget committee expansion discussion to take place and the role of the capital budget with the committee. And then in March we reappoint that committee anyway we just wouldn't reappoint that committee. So if we act on this at town meeting and presumably the voters agreed to the expansion of the budget committee which they established as an elected body can we do all that and have it take effect immediately? Yes. Yeah, I guess that's what I'm suggesting then. Now there might be a couple of members of the current capital planning committee that there's only gonna be two slots open or whatever maybe three with the departure of Mr. Sillaway. There may be enough slots to go around and maybe some people are ready to move on. Anyway, I don't know. Jerry might have a better handle on it. While I respect the long standing commitment that people have made to the capital planning committee if we're going to transition sometime and they'll still have the opportunity to run for those slots to which they may be here to forward appointed. So I would say yes, I would add in paper. I'd move this process through town meeting. If we do that and have a good discussion at town meeting then we know we're headed the right direction. The public will certainly tell us. Yeah. They turned down extending the budget committee a little more. And I just keep in mind one of the things we wanna do with capital planning generally is move toward a model, multi-year model that reduces a lot of the variability in there with everything from paving to equipment replacements. So as we build that model out this year being one step, building upon that there's a lot less variability in there. You're just reacting to some of the factors that have come up in between maybe and need to reprioritize or scale back there's a change of cost. Something has deteriorated more quickly. There's something wrong with the piece of equipment. There's some sort of cycle change that comes up that forces that there's still sort of an annual edit process not that we set out for five years and then come back at the end of it. Every year you're still editing but you're talking about those around the edges variable pieces, especially if we're making the transfers we need to make and lowering debt service, plugging that back into capital all of these different things as they come together should keep that capital plan kind of it's a very gentle city as opposed to what we've seen where there might be a big wave one year and then very little in the next wave the next year. And so we are driving a product that should be easier to fold in should mimic more what's happened with the budget frankly where there's a document that comes in that's pretty complete that has the components so that advisory function becomes easy no less important but still quite a bit easier to do. And in fairness I think when Mel was there they would take the list of projects in the capital committee would help figure out what the rank of those projects were. In this new model it should rank them for you with predetermined weight. Yeah, certainly on the paving and then when you get to trucks it's scheduling out what's their useful life we've got a list of them how are we gonna replace them and then get on that useful life cycle. Then you can look years out that every seven years you replace a dump truck so that's programmed out let's use that example. And then pavement will look at condition index and that'll create the priority list and where there might be some variability or some need for input is if you've got two similarly ranked projects they're at kind of the bottom of the priority list so there's some need to have X amount of funding. Project need is Y and we've got a big funding fit need so how does that, which one makes it in one year versus versus another because push me to the next year. A lot of that will be sorted out or there'll be options sorted out in the drafts before they ever arrive too so that you'll know what those impacts look like if you move this one here's how it trickles out and this one here's how it plays out but it'll be very much condition-based and set a target of pavement to good condition in the next number of years and then each year that's how we chop away at it be a mix of very smaller sections you know we'll have to figure out how it all fits because there's not enough money to do it all right away. I think back in the day that you actually ride all around town and they did that, they evaluated the pavement conditions and whatnot that was part of that group's task. Yeah, and so we'll go out this year and do it and follow the, there's an Army Corps of Engineers as a model, measure, writing and alligator cracking and all the other things. We've got a software that they put together in collaboration with Colorado State used by two different municipalities and others that you then put the scores in and provide some of the cost data as well based on some larger aggregated cost sets and then we'll have to make some refinements to that as we know what local pricing is but it'll be a combination of that road piece with this sort of software piece to help us line them up you know where we want them to be in. And similarly we might do something, you know build off that it may not be this year with some of our staffing strengths but gravel road plan that takes, you know we've set out, here's how much money here's how long of a stretch we think we can do with it adding gravel reshaping doing some of the ditching we can build off that to then say here's what those projects look like for five years out of however many years out and the equipment stuff's a little bit easier to set on schedule. So as those all come together and we do it for sidewalks should be like I said it should be the very calm sea when you're kind of bobbing up and down from year to year you should get seasick or at least terribly so. So is there consensus to take this one to the town meeting? Would it be helpful if we answered some of the questions and kind of mapped out a lead in lead out for you to consider at the next meeting? In other words, what would you need to make the change? How would it work at town meeting? What does it look like coming out if you go to the seven? Yeah, I do think that would be, you know about plenty of time to get it warmed so. Yeah, yeah, town meetings not worn till I mean their deadlines are end of January, so what? All right, well, thanks Mary. Next up is consider approving the ARPA funding committee scope of work. The building opposite of conversations that started in the summer now that we've got half of our nearly 1.4 million and put together scope we went casting about to look at what other media studies have put together for committee scopes of work and then from all over the place we tried to make one that made sense in our context. So that's on the memo and then thinking again about committee size and membership and some of the other questions. There was a recommendation in August for a larger nine member committee. What's in here contemplates something closer to seven but there's certainly flexibility with that. But the scope of work lays out what the responsibility is in tasks would be and the deliverables and dates. So essentially from when you appoint which at this point if you did say the scope of work tonight, the appointed committee members at the December meeting that would give them from December 9th until April 14th is the meeting date that we picked in the scope of work to get through that task list above. We're starting to see quite a bit of the information coming in as towns reach out the LCT starting to keep a listing or database of what people are spending money on. So some of the questions are being refined. So it feels like a manageable task at least from understanding what is or isn't eligible. The harder part might be trying to pull out some of the recommended pieces for use depending on how far develop those things might be. Might be a list that has some elements that still need to be fleshed out even farther as we move forward. But the basic responsibility and tasks are to understand all of the criteria and guidelines, know what's eligible and what isn't. We'll work with this committee to get some community feedback. We'll use old school and new school modes to the extent possible. I want to engage with other stakeholders so if there are local groups that have different perspectives on what some eligible uses could be and how those would translate to some community benefit, try to collect that to develop a list of potential uses of those funds. Also identify where, hey, we think this is a good idea but we don't know we're a magnitude for cost. We need some clarification on if we fully can or do we need this, that or the other? And then try to put some of these projects into what are the recommended uses. The committee would have to follow the open meeting law and be a public body for that. So there's accessibility baked in. There's a minutes component baked in. And I just set out as a final bullet to some guiding principles, I guess you call them and I'm just trying to pull them from our conversation as well as some of the other recommended ones so that the funds are used equitably and provide broad short long-term impacts for the community. The recommendations are strategic and focus on making highest and best use of one time funds. So I'm trying not to bake in anything programmatic or being fully aware that at some point we'll have to figure out a different way to fund that. And then the committee short long-term goals as represented, I just referenced the town plan as a common planning and vision document are served or otherwise advanced by the recommendations for use. Trying to make sure we're thoughtful that we're linking it into some of those exercises we've already done. And then the report would be set up in a way that would try to answer some of those pieces there out of the, how were the responsibilities and tasks met in addition to maybe describing process including the feedback received that you've got a complete listing from which we can then start to make decisions about funding. We don't get the second half of the money until we're thinking somewhere in May, June of 2022. So by ending it differently it does put you in position to start to deploy some of those resources moving forward from there. We have to have them obligated by the end of 2024 and spent by the end of 2026. So we still have some time, especially if we're queued up in 2022 to get them out, especially if we wanted to roll them out for whatever reason or something that's a little more program-based. We've been thinking more infrastructure but if we need to make sure time to set up, roll out those types of things. We do have a couple of years in between 2022 and 26 to do that. So there's a basic scope of work and then there's the report seven member committee. I just went through pulling from some of the principles is where obviously as a legislative body, the select boards on there, there's been a common practice as people have set up committees, budget committee, because the money aspects, many commissions from the town in the document. And then another member from any of the other committees that have expressed an interest. So just left that open. And then three members of the general public. So there's some public participation. So that's the basic, but more fleshed out version of what we've been talking about with a scope of work and a timeline associated. I think it's important that we make sure that this committee represents the entire town. And it's got a geographic mix of people as well as, I know it's fine to say we're gonna pick people from other committees, but we don't always have a good geographic mix on those committees because we end up filling them with whoever decided they wanted to step up and do it. But this is something I think that's important. We make sure we have fair representation on. We do have that baked into the public appointment piece to try to get that geographic representation. And then as you think about committee structure, you could further try to balance that out by thinking about who's on the committees and what makes the most sense to try to get that broad perspective that covers the different areas. That was in our minutes. There was some stuff that was happening. Yeah, and then going back to through it was August to July, we talked about that piece a little more, I think. I was trying to find it in here and then I realized it was in a minute. Yeah, yeah. I think it's also be useful once or twice along the way and those months of thinking back until we're just working on our acts. Yeah, regular reporting. We need to your comment. Do you have any thoughts about a method for broadening geographic representation? Obviously people who step up are often the same people. No matter what the topic, and I just wonder if there's some way we can, not that we would be necessarily recruiting members for the committee, but is there some way we can put feelers out to historically underrepresented sectors of the town on these kinds of bodies? I'm not sure that we can't recruit people, right? If we have areas of the town that are underrepresented, usually it would make sense for us to reach out to people and try to get them to come forward. I think this committee is going to have a fair amount of work to do. So somebody who's kind of got that savvy and the time and the energy to put into it is gonna be important. I don't know what that looks like, but I know that this has the potential to either go really well and do some great things for the town or go really south and become a big battle. Can you explain that a little more, Penny? Well, so first off, the money comes to the town of Randolph, and so it goes to the entire town. And so we're gonna get into that town versus village discussion. So if all the members of the committee are from the village and the money all goes to the water wastewater district, for example, then there's gonna be some pretty upset people. I see what you're saying. I would say we should, maybe finalize this for the next meeting and move forward. We've got to assume that, yeah. So Trevor, are you looking for us to approve the scope of this committee? So then it can be made public that we're looking for people. Yeah, yeah, that'd be the action that we're seeking. And the appointments have come after. So if that's the case, I'll move that we approve the scope of the Art of Funding Committee scope of work as set forward tonight and appointing committee. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. Next up is consider authorizing mailing ballots for town meeting. Questions by the town clerk. It's certainly early in the process, but that's not a bad thing. The question is whether or not we want to mail ballots to everyone for town meeting 2022, similar to what we did, certainly for the general election in 2020. I don't know if that is what happened here for town meeting 2021, but for the general for sure, it's possible with select board action, the deadlines to make this decision aren't until much later, based on when you actually worn town meeting and have to mail ballots. I think it's 20 days, no less than 20 days before town meeting. So we need to be able to mail ballots by certainly 10 or so days at a minimum before that will have worn town meeting. So we'd be in a spot to be able to do that minus some printing time. There's not an exact cost estimate for this. We've got about 3,500 registered voters who would be receiving a ballot based on the reimbursements from when we mailed out last year or for the last elections, they were in that $2,500 to $3,000 range. That's about all the postage in the court or budget. This is one of those things where if you sort of view it as a valuable democratic access tool, we can certainly find ways to make up the other postage funds and maybe in some other areas. So it'll overspend that line but it's the kind of thing that we could probably figure out in other places how to more than make that back. These questions whether or not you want to mail ballots. We're going to do other things in between Emory's had a plan to install some newer figure secure ballot boxes, for example, out front for drop box access. And that protects us a little bit depends on what happens with your pandemic and what access to the polls could look like. So how would this work? These would be in-person voting that Tuesday. Like it would still be in-person vote. Yeah, or you can drop your ballot off that day that you got in the mail. Right, it would essentially work like a universal absentee ballot. So you get the ballot, if you don't return it, you can either bring it back with you as long as you're not checked off, check in at the polls and vote same day. So they'll still be open here on. Yeah. But it'll be essentially a drop off event. Yeah, you'll get the ballot by mail and can mail it back right and still access, come in and access. And is there enough time for built into the process for overseas voters, say military members that are deployed elsewhere? I remember that was a concern previous time. So it's wonderful to make sure that everybody's in franchise. Yeah, the pressure points with that will relate to when we weren't town meeting. So if we're toward the back end of the deadline, so the end of January, we've narrowed the window. You've got a not less than and not more than. So if we're on the front end of that, there's another 15 or so days to process everything and mail it out. If you're on the back end of January, still within your statutory timeframe, but now you're about a month out from town meeting, I get the ballots to get that list and then you're relying on postal services to get the ballot to the service member and then get it back. So there's still, it still can be a tight timeline, but your minimum window, you're gonna get 20 to 25 days, say, depending on when the time meeting is formed. And those ballots can be printed, how we print them if it's in the in-house thing. That's one thing if it has to go out and it takes a couple of days that can cut in. So some of those pieces are just more logistical. This in and of itself, make sure everybody gets that mail. The service members or people in town or anyone in between. I mean, I don't know how many were sent out last time and how many were returned. Not, I don't know what I can, I can't remember that now. My question will be, I think the first time around we sent out the cards, you know, I mean, people like to go to absentee, but we didn't send in everybody. I was wondering how that would be a less expensive way to do it and we wouldn't have all those extra ballots. Yeah, those would be another option too. I'm ready to have a preference. But I have to pull them on between the postcard option that we only had talked about the mailing. It's neat one that everybody, likely I give more people getting the ballot. Yeah, I think that the ultimate goal is to try to broaden participation to the extent possible and the mail-in balloting didn't seem to do that. At least for the 2020 jump. Granted, there are some other factors that may have driven or turned out up in that particular moment, but. So remind me if I'm, didn't we go to the postcard because Joyce said it got really challenging with all the different ballots with the police district, the water district, the sewer district, to mail to everybody. And if they only had to do those that the postcard came in, they were doing a certain number of it that day that got requested. It's possible that that kind of predates me. So that sounds like that's my recollection. So Trevor, you want to go back and chat with Emory and see what he thinks on that? Yeah, yeah, we've got a few things to run down. I think. Okay. All right. Consider approving the Village Fire Department facility youth policy. So I don't know if anybody, hopefully everybody had a chance to read this, but I'm having a hard time with the town paying all the fees for that building and any use where it's paid for goes into a fund for the fireman and them determining who, who use it. That's a town facility. And it should, I believe it should follow the same use policy as our other buildings, but be coordinated with what they have going on. The taxpayers pay for the building. We pay for the utilities. We pay for the cleaning crew. All that, it's the town's building, not just the fireman's building. There are organizations using it already, Sunrise Rotary Club meets in there every week. I don't know what, I don't know what, and I don't know whether they're paying any or not at this point. I don't believe so. I just wonder what the impetus for this wasn't, I agree with you. It is a, it is a fully town funded facility. Well, I think the use of it should be the same as when somebody wants to use a conference room at the town hall. You know, they call up and say, hey, is the conference room available on Tuesday at two o'clock, and they could call up and say, hey, is the conference room at the fire station available on whatever day for this use. There's a saying in this proposal, sure you need to, the money would go into a fund for the fireman, I didn't see that. Number five on page one, it sets up that there's a donation to the fire department, which would donations generally go as opposed to a user fee that was paid to the town. I don't know if that's the part you're pulling from Trini, but that was the one I put my eye on. Yep, that's it. And then conversations when I killed a brand, it is to go into their fund. But I also believe if we want to have everything open, accessible, available to everyone, then we have one policy, everybody follows it. There's one place where they go to try to find space they can use. I don't know that we want to get into, well, the fire department didn't let us use it because they don't like our organization. You know, I think it's opening us up to a different process that brings with it some risk. I think you're Trini, you're making a bunch of really good points. And I think in addition, it says here that the fire chief can, as his discretion may waive the donation requirement, sounds like it could be problematic in exactly that kind of way as well. I like the idea of it being the same as other built-town buildings. I think that makes a lot of sense. But you shouldn't ever have to waive a donation because it shouldn't be mandatory if it's a donation. Yeah. I think so, I do have behind the donation, right? Oh, no. So I just want to jump in here for a second. Sorry for the road noise, but you also have a building in East Randolph, two buildings down there that you'd have to take into consideration. I believe Randolph Center wouldn't fall into this because I think they own their own building, but you've got two other facilities and I think there should be a blanket policy across the board that addresses all of them. Yeah, there's no space in the fire station in East Randolph, but I would assume once the hall gets renovated and can have use in it, it should definitely be right there the same as the others. Yeah. A little bit of a curve ball in there. I don't know how this, but how does Chandler fit into this as well because they will on occasion, I'm not talking about renting out the music fall for another presenter to, but they'll occasionally rent out the community room on the second floor. And we have a lease agreement with Chandler. Chandler is an entity that's leasing the space from the town technically. Right, so they can control the needs in that. I think they have full control of what they do with that building because we've given them the lease on the building to use as they see fit. So I don't think that really applies here. I think what applies here are the two fire stations in the East Randolph community hall and also buildings like the town hall. So I think that not to say that it doesn't happen, sometimes I believe all these fire stations, you know, they pull the trucks out and they're sitting in front and having a baked beans supper or something. So those are the kind of things that I think we need to figure out what the, if it's gonna be somebody else other than the fire department, then I think we need a policy for that. Yeah, and it should be consistent across the venues. Yeah, that's what I believe. That's what I believe. It should be a consistent policy. Yeah, that makes sense. I had two questions to throw into the discussion. The village fire station, can they lock the rest of the building off? Yes, they can. Anything that we didn't want the public to be into, they could just lock that off. So that's not an issue. Yep, the office is all locked and the access to the garage part locks too. Yeah. Talked about an administrative room, maybe, is that the office? That's at the far end of the, that's when we've done some interviews in the past. That's not the administrative office, that's the meeting. The administrative office is right there when you come in. It's, they don't use it for the fire department. I believe it's wide open, it's open right now. Is that something that can be locked off or doesn't need to be? I think it's empty, Pat. So at this point, it doesn't matter. I would imagine if they ever needed it for a town activity, it could be locked. Yeah, it's an extra room right now. Okay, and my other question was, was parking say there was a meeting there and there was a fire? They have plans where they would park. It's a parking lot as well. Nope. Probably be like it used to be, they'd be all over everybody in the neighborhood. There's not enough parking there to have the fire department respond and have a large meeting at the same time. So there ought to be some backup when the neighbor's letting them park something. There are something temporarily, seems like Trevor's writing that down so that suits my needs. Scribbling theories, yeah. Do we have policies related to the other two buildings in East Randall or those? So there's no space in the fire station. There could be, I guess, if they pulled the trucks out. But in the hall right now is shut down, right? And it's rehabbed. And I would assume that once that's rehabbed and gonna be open for use, we would wanna add that to whatever policy we create. Sounds like this needs to be tabled or tuned up a bit. We've got a facility usage policy that I think is mostly designed for here that we can then start to build that common template, blanket policy from and develop that out from there. I think that's where we're just looking at it. The $25 number comes from that other policy I think is where that came from at least, but it sounds like a desire for a blanket. If a town owns a facility with a blanket policy that governs the use, there might be some individual pieces that go with it, such as what happens in the event. If there's a fire in an event at the same time, the village fire department, or if there has to be some sort of new ones based on the space itself, but by and large, everything would be consistent throughout. Am I correct? I'm thinking that that policy has a usage fee, but that isn't being charged now. Yeah, we haven't been charged sporadically, if at all. But we also have a policy for recreation facilities. Yeah, we may want to see if that elements of that could be, yeah, we're gonna see how these things all stitched together, I think, to try to make one unified, consistent guiding set of documents or document. Trini, was there a specific issue or set of issues that motivated the creation of this proposed Roundup Village fire station policy? If there was, they didn't share it. I got it maybe a week or so ago from Mike Hildebrand and just said, hey, what do you think of this? And I told him, just what I've said tonight, and he said, I'm not surprised. I'm gonna take it to Trevor. So it looked like that's gonna get him anywhere. I took it here, so yeah, you guys can say the same thing here. I went to it right there. I don't know what the impetus was for it. If this is their way to be able to charge a fee maybe or not sure. Just curious about why these particular sets of initiatives and why now, and if we know more about that, it might give us other sort of food for thought for things to include in a revised timeline policies. I agree. All right, well, we'll look for that. Next up is Proving Water and Wastewater Allocations. We have a quartet for you. There's an increase, Wastewater Allocation at minimum precision. There is a request for Wastewater Allocation at 142 East Bethel Road for LaLumia. There's a Water and Wastewater Allocation request for a parcel of zero Pearl Street. And the final one is a 22 Water Street Caramari. This is a wastewater allocation. Three of them look like they're for House with an apartment in the zero Pearl Street context. Two others are I think single family uses and then obviously New England Precision will be a commercial customer. Anybody have any questions on these? I have some questions. Sure. This is the same building that we recently increased, right? You're a solo. New England Precision, is that what we're talking about? Yeah. Yeah, they did have an increase fairly recently. This is an additional increase. It's just good to know they're doing well. Yeah, it sounds like they're super busy. My second question was, what's the water used for there? Is there any problem with sewer plant? Chris Chambers says that our sewer plant has plenty capacity for this. Problem in terms of what's in the water though once it's discharged? Well, I think this particular wastewater allocation is not just any kind of a special case in the past when we've had agreements with New England Precision. They were much more complicated because of the sorts of things that they were discharging, but this is not like that. Why is that? I don't remember the details of it, but as part of their process, this was wastewater that is not like, when they got an increase in allocation last year, they were specifically moving to different systems and we were gonna be seeing certain, I don't know what the word is, contaminants in their wastewater that was not what you would expect from a residence or things like that and we need to be careful with how that gets treated. But this was, I guess, coming from a different part of their production line and Chris says that we can just treat it like a normal wastewater allocation request. That's what I was wondering, that's why you said probably under recommendation, but discharge agreement parameters don't go in. Yeah, spirit. Yeah, that's exactly it. And the second one, like we wanna do last one, Mallory first, are all the places up to the center, meter to the district, meter, everything like that? Up in the little Randolph Center, water supply district, yeah. Because that's a separate management, management system, I don't know. I don't believe so, but we can check that out, we've been talking with them generally. So that one and we'll be able to get rid of the water would have to get rid of the water. They'd have to, some way, yeah. We could read it. Yeah. We'll have to use it, we'll have to read it. Nice precision. Installing a carbon filter system and improving the quality of the other note, Chris said. And I had the same question on the one years, was that metered to the right side? Pat, we had this conversation on the wastewater committee when we talked about this and I wish I could remember the details better, but I know it's, it is metered, but I believe it's metered the same way that sewer is metered for regular residences where it's basically tied to your water usage. And there's some way that they do that in Redlaw Center, which is different because it's a separate water system. So I forget how, I just forget how that works, whether we get copies of the meter, the water meter readings up there and we base our sewer off of that, but we don't take those meter readings ourselves in the town water district. I know it's VTC, they do that all the way. We will need to put meters in for both of those, so be putting in the property owner's expense and clarify if it's a water and wastewater thing too, but I don't know how to make it, I don't know if we can, no, sorry. Just wastewater near the college, yeah. So it'll just be a wastewater. Yeah, the note says just wastewater. They're getting wastewater, but we want to target based on the water. It's right in front of everybody else. I don't think my understanding of that should be right in front of me, but it's a lot. And then the question on the last one I had in the plot at the end of the first street, says Brian Gargains. Are they actually going to be doing some gardening there? It's stuck out and I'm thinking that if they're going to use anything for irrigation, they're going to have something like that. And I think this is the house with an apartment. They may decide to grow some tomatoes or the bread or the poppies or something. Yeah, yeah, okay. Makes it sound aesthetically pleasing. It's a pretty big block. Yeah, so yeah, the water would be metered even though it's a separate system for the way our purpose is. Nobody else has questions, although we approve those four applications with the making sure that they have water meters of which the wastewater use is great. Also. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Okay, hi. Hi. All those motion carries. Next up is an assembly permit for the town tree lighting. It's an annual event at the application packets. And this would be for December 3rd. There was some conversation about a parade on the, it could be the week after as well, but this covers the tree lighting would be the closure of a portion of Pleasant Street. So between main and Prince, basically the same spots, so by the gear house, the time of the Evo would be set for Friday, December 3rd. There's a snow inclement weather date listed here of Sunday, December 5th. So this would be at five to 7 p.m. We start at three different hot cocoa and coffee for the future sale, speakers with holiday music. It sounds like it should be familiar to anybody who's in the past to kind of understand. And the fire show, I forget exactly what they're called, but it wouldn't look like they were gonna perform on Halloween, I believe it's gonna perform at this instead if I understood that part. So that's a circus of fire, right? And there's a banner placement permission form with it. So that would be up to advertise the event as well. I'll move we approve the assembly permit application and banner placement permission. Okay. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Next up is grants. And since I've been here, there is no new grant requests. It feels a little awkward, I guess. At some point, though, we'll have to go back and revisit the conversation related to the laboratories grant. So maybe on the agenda for the 16th, this was to get the $20,000 grant from Historic Preservation. And if they get that, the Board of Trustees Library wanted to match with another $40,000, which left $140,000 to cover the $200,000 cost. And it's anticipated in the capital plan and in the budget for fiscal 22 of the facility reserve expenditure. Nothing to do tonight. I just wanted to keep that in your brains. And it's something that we'll still have to determine at some point. Okay, full business. Hearing nothing, other business. Manager's report. Nothing new to add from there, except for 5.30 PM next Thursday for that joint work session with the Energy Committee. And I heard today that the auditors are working on a draft of the fiscal 21 audit. So that should hopefully conclude sooner than later. Thanks. Executive Secretary. Any prospects for open positions? Not yet. Hello. Hope we got somebody on the phone. Yeah, hey, I've been listening and this is Milo. Oh. Hi Milo. We appointed you early on. Oh, okay. Yeah, about two minutes after 5.30. So maybe I missed you. Okay. So I've been appointed. Yes. Okay, very good. Congratulations Milo. Thanks, I think. All right. So next up, we have executive session. Stop it. Just after they do the motions. Oh, that's right, sorry. Oh, we got it out. Contract. Yeah, two quick contract check-ins and then the personal and legal piece are essentially the same matter. Got elements of both and... Entertain a motion to go into executive session. I'll move we go into executive session for those purposes. I will second. All those in favor? Bye. Bye. Motion carries.