 Hey, hi everybody. Guess what? I am not Ray Ortega Head and you know head honcho for the podcasters round table, but my name is LC Escobar And we've done a little bit of a takeover with the blessing of Ray, you know to just have a bunch of ladies here chatting podcasting That's it. We're gonna be addressing a really awesome topic, which is Podcasting to go and everybody on this panel has a very very unique point of view in terms of recording their podcast Not in a studio setting and trying to make it as easy as possible for ourselves So I actually can't introduce you guys all if you want me to but I'm actually gonna put you on the spot real quick But so we're gonna start off with the lady who is kind of running the show today in the back Miss Crystal O'Connor She's basically our support superstar over at Lipson she's like the voice behind all of the support materials back there She does all the she love runs lips and live with me She does every kind of bit of tutorial that there is in the back end over there. She's amazing Next we have miss Barbara Edelman who is sadly we cannot really see her today. You only see her name Hello, I'm here. I'm here in spirit if not in the flesh She is a ghost, but she is present And she's a podcasting ghost. She is the one that really with the amazing voices. You just heard her She's done a ton of you know, she's done audio books people. That's pretty awesome And now she has an amazing podcast called how you can save the world sustainable living and social activism Pretty pretty incredible. So you guys need to check that out now when you leave here And then we have miss a dad Amanda dowdy her love. Oh, I'm not gonna tell you hi Amanda where you're not frozen anymore. Oh, I'm not frozen anymore You're frozen self. I did it was like a true the act of true love can fix a frozen heart Her podcast is all about beer the great beer adventure So she goes and she does her podcast primarily inside of bars and pops and things like that Breweries yeah any place that the beer people are I am there she is there and with her special gear and finally Nemo say hello Carly. Hey, I'm the one with the weird accent She's also Saturday it's like weird for most of us, you know, it's Friday. She's ahead. She's in the future She is the future. She she's what I feel is a hidden powerhouse in the podcasting world that needs to be found She is you know, she really is an audio professional. She does podcasting consulting She had rad casters, which is her podcast school Basically, and she has a fantastic podcast called car. So I can't say it Carlos off Yes, and I always mess that up I tried to pronounce it so many different times But anyway, so there you go This is the team and we're gonna get started right away because we have so many of us here And we want to give you as much value as possible because these questions come up so much Well, so actually I kind of want to start By asking what it took you to get here today because as you can see we are all women And sometimes it takes a little bit longer in some way some of the things that you know We have to do so I'm gonna send this over to Amanda Amanda. What it like give me the last hour of your life Oh the last hour Yeah, I will condense it It included picking up from kids from child care walking around our frozen neighborhood trying to sell their like Deliver all the Girl Scout cookies getting inside using a great app Domino shout out to Domino's to get dinner here Because we literally have no kitchen none We we made our dining room table last night. So that's what we ate at tonight Everybody was super excited my five-year-old is petrified of anything that has to do with fire right now So she was like super upset that I wasn't gonna be able to meditate with her before bedtime. I was like, yeah It's alright. It's alright. I was like your father knows how to meditate. We have taught him you're fine I will come we have to give her magic kisses where I like smush her head with a kiss and somehow That's supposed to protect her but it works And then I was like, all right mama's getting the beer and going downstairs I got There you have it And now off to you with Carly Nemo, what did it take for you to get here since a little bit different last yeah It's a little bit different because I am sweating balls over here. It's really hot and humid And it's about 95% humidity so it's really stinking hot I had to pack my daughter off with my husband But first I had to play a game where I had to throw a ribbon off the edge of my bed and pretend to catch Mabel That was fun And then I quickly wrote I'm writing a book at the moment So I got on to 750 words, which is my favorite app at the moment And just knocked out a thousand words for that And then weirdly usually I'm super anxious before I do anything like this And today I'm just not so pretty excited and celebrating that way Yay, that's awesome. Fantastic. Well, um, so miss Barbara the ghost You're like beautiful in blue. Yes, that's it. It's my color. Those were with her eyes. Yeah Well, what I am a grandmother and my grandson today banged his head on the corner of the cabinet at school We had to take him to the emergency room. Oh my goodness. It was perfectly fine. It was all fine. It was nothing But you know, they had you know But so there was a lot of running around in anxiety And I was remembering how stressful it was to be the parent of small children and how grateful I am Then I'm just the backup. Anyway, so then I raced home and I thought oh, I've got this all set up My mic is fine. Everything's fine. And I tried to sign on and lo and behold You cannot see me for some mysterious reason that I cannot figure out So that's that's uh, you know, that's my day We still love you miss crystal. What did you do to get over here today? Um, let's see. Oh my goodness. Dinner Dogs dinner dogs outside one dog just had surgery. So that took extra time shower makeup Which looks lovely Pass kid off to husband make sure they are upstairs and happy give hugs and kisses Make sure the kid had all the stuffed animals Double check audio set up the hangouts I scared her when I came on she was like in the midst of setting up you should see all the gear she has in there It's insane. She's like crazy with the gear Yeah I know and then that I'll just finish up just by saying that I started cooking the soup that the girls were having This morning on my crock pot so that they I made sure that dinner was ready So as soon I almost forgot to feed them like it was like 15 minutes before I'm like, oh my god I forgot to put the food on the table. So then I just put the food on the table And then they're going to be watching videos with daddy until I come out because I'm the boss of putting them to sleep So hopefully they will be nice and relaxed When I go back home And we can all settle down Uh and go so uh, well, thanks. Thanks. I mean that's a little bit different than I'm sure You know most of us I know from what I hear we were slightly bit rushed and it was sort of like Whatever, you know, hopefully this will work out. It's usually what happens Hopefully it will all work out and we will just rail with it So let's go ahead and start talking some tech and location because this is exactly what Um, the the reason that I have these ladies on the panel is because each one of us has a little bit of a different setup And we kind of record a little bit differently So I'm going to throw this one over to carly because I want you to talk about carly about Your setup in terms of the the the mobile type of recording that you do For your show and what you use To record and where you're recording Okay, so so I have two formats of my show one is the interview Which I do pretty much with the same setup. I'm using now, which is uh an apogee 96k mic Um, I've I'm surrounded by microphones. So I've got I'm a voice a voice apparatus So I have I'm sitting in a studio right now Um, I have a bunch of gear around me But the second format of my show is I go to the beach and I have conversations with myself And talking about whatever is going on for me So they kind of they've got a kind of spiritual slant And I just kind of walk along the beach talking to the universe. I guess For that Actually, just use my iphone 6 Using just the voice memo app nothing fancy and I use a road smart lab plus one of those little lapel mics that just plugs into the headphone jack on your Um in your phone and and that's it And then I come home I run a tiny little bit of noise reduction on it But for me, I believe that what's happening in the background can tell as much of the story as what's happening on the mic So I leave the ocean sound in and um, but I do try and reduce it a little bit if it's a bit of a rough day And that's pretty much it And it sounds good. Yeah, I know It's pretty amazing what that little guy can do for you. It's like pretty slick So, uh in terms of uh, kind of being in a very noisy environment Let's move it over to miss amanda Because amanda is uh is is in loud pubs and how do you deal with like all the people? What do you use? Well, I too have Two types of shows that I do My first show is a interview type of show And that show I actually use on my zoom h6 and I'll pop in all of my at 2005 um, I have been asked um I have recently moved over to having an editor work on them. Um, just because I'm doing so many other things But um, I did have a specific Request to actually there's um a holder for the microphone that kind of can like make it a little bit bounce around Um, because when people are putting beer bottles down on the table, that's a loud noise So if you have more of the, you know, this kind of deal With a yeah Shock mound. There you go. I'm like, there's a word somebody'll come up with if I keep if I keep just floundering Somebody will come to my rescue So yeah a shock mound just because of that loud Sound of putting a beer bottle down And then I also so so that's kind of like it goes in my backpack I go to whoever my people are I call it podcasting in the wild because quite literally it can get wild out there um Either either because of the people that I'm with or I have literally been in the middle of a hot field With sheep right next to me Yeah, they were great. They were cleaning up all the weeds um from the hot plants. So that was great Um, and they got out and we had to chase them back in and there was lots of buying and it was actually Pretty intense and that was like only episode eight. That was 80 episodes ago. Oh my gosh, and I was chasing sheep um But and then my second one is really What most people love My second my second one are like my on the go I need to be at an event. I I want to get the quick brief brewery bios I want to be in and out so I can't set up an h6 that thing's awesome pretty pretty small for what it is But still pretty big for a quick type of deal. So that's where the leather harness comes in um We do have it with you I was gonna ask you to bring it because it's funny She's been well, I just saw her and it's hilarious not hilarious. Well. Yeah hilarious. It's hilarious She's got a harness. Here's my harness. Um Um, I actually was starting to get like a little bit of a cloudy color too So I reached out to Glenn the geek and I said um, excuse me How do I clean my harness? So Glenn the geek just for you guys that don't know who he is. He runs a very huge network about horses Yeah, I mean horse leather. Yeah, I was like, how do I clean my leather? Right So on here again, um, I I have this beautiful pink, um wind Mike thing screen puffy ball thing with my I use technical terms With my flag Um, that says great beer adventure I just bought a black flag and I taped my business cards onto it because I have a really pretty logo I'm gonna make sure that I show it to everyone Um, and yeah, so it goes right on here And then I have an h2 that hooks on here in this little guy. This is my uh, duny and bork Personally because why wouldn't you bring one with you to a bar when you're talking about beer? Um, I add my stickers and my stuff and then but the piece to resist on says the other side And that's where I hook on My uh, cuzy Yeah, oh my god that was We can't well so now because of this incredible setup that she's got going on here. Ms. Barbara Would you like to follow up? well Because I know that you've done some as some uh interviews on the road or I have yes and predominantly I have done interviews over skype and the other person It depends how great their sound quality is whether or not the sound quality comes out Okay, but I've used the apogee and I have also used mickey um, and I've also used the mic in my iphone and It's part of the problem is when I go someplace I am I want to get the ambient noise and the ambient sound of the place Um, and you don't want to set up something or have this big clunky thing in your hand So it's kind of I'm open to hearing other options Like I think that using the iphone with the lavalier mic. Is that what I heard you say? Yeah. Yeah, but um I have different kits for different things. So that's how I record my free flow But if I'm at a conference, um, I recently Australia has a I um A big conference called pro blogger and I was invited to interview all of the speakers And so I had a setup for that, but then also a mobile recording thing. So I'm happy to share Yes, do it up. Um, do it up. Yeah. Yeah Have a love affair with road. I'm not in any way affiliated with them, but they're Australian company like me. I'm not an Australian company Yeah, so um, so I love their gear. I use in my studio. I use a road nt2 A Um, and then for my travel kit If I'm if I get the opportunity to be able to sit down, which I did at pro blogger They set up the green room or they Puts put, you know, set aside a space in the green room for me to set up with the recording And I got two I've got two, uh, road pro casters, which are a dynamic microphone really great quality solid construction Um, and then I got a couple of boom arms with a shock mount and that and then I plugged them into like a little Preamp or audio interface thing and straight into my computer And so that's kind of if I can sit with someone I'll I'll use that kit because it's great and it's um easy to kind of set up It's a little bit of work But the quality of the audio is amazing and in that particular room It was a wooden room so it had all wooden Walls and carpet but then air conditioning going, you know, it was a conference center So it wasn't a really nice soft space. It was quite a harsh Hard space besides the carpet. Uh, so that worked really well But if I'm just doing like box pop style stuff, I use um an olympus ls 100 Which is like a little digital recorder and I plug in a road shotgun mic So a road video mic really and I just hand hold that and point it between Um me and whoever I'm speaking to so that has to cut down Sorry, I was going to say is that olympus um a An An apple product or I mean it's not it's in um, yeah Yeah, it's in the other form. It's it's actually yeah the the product is called olympus ls 100 Now you could use anything that I chose that one because it has xlr um So I can plug xlr mics into it and I can plug two into so I don't then have to take my computer and my preamp I can just plug these the two road pro casters directly into this little digital recorder Um, but what if you want to be kind? Oh, sorry. Yeah, what if you want to be unobtrusive? What if you what if you don't want to like have everyone in this event know that you're recording, you know Nothing you're trying to secretly record, but you don't want to make a big federal case out of it Yes, so then like that that's sitting down set up with the pro casters. That's that's pretty in your face Um, but the the other option which is use again using a digital recorder. It doesn't have to be the olympus ls 100 That's just what I chose at the time to use and and then I just have a shotgun mic And I hand hold the shotgun mic and I just point it between the two people and that's a lot less intrusive because it's quite a thin Looking microphone. It's not big and in your face and it can actually be held held Like kind of at waist level so you can kind of be standing there, you know Just flipping between the two it doesn't have to be right in their face So that's a really good kind of set up if you're looking to do Something use using a shotgun mic. It's not traditional that you would use a shotgun mic to record audio for audio sake you usually would use it for video But um, I find that it's in intrusive like it's not obtrusive It it has great quality sound it can drown out because it's quite directional It can drown out a lot of the noise that's going on around you So in a busy, you know at lunchtime in a busy conference center You can still have a conversation and have it sound good So that's kind of the setups that I use really on the go When I'm not just on the beach having a conversation with myself I would I would also like to add if you don't want people to realize that you're there don't wear leather Or a harness or harness in general. Yeah, um, but when we were so, uh, Elsie and I were just recently at podfest down in orlando, which was an amazing event. Um You weren't you weren't there. Were you crystal did I miss you? No, okay Okay, I just wanted to make sure I didn't think so but I was like there were so many people So Elsie and I were down there and so there were two people that were like very much more on the slide Dave Jackson from the school of podcasting He was just using a lavalier mic and he talked into it and then he put it in front of us So it was very much just very very intimate very close and you didn't have to worry about anybody else and also Jemi from curving the cube. She had this little I I don't know what kind it was I was too high on my own endorphins to be able to like realize what else was going on at the time But she had this little tiny recorder that was just you know, it didn't drown out any of the other sound because It was just the recorder itself But she just kind of popped it up in front of us and was able to talk about it But she's really great if you you know ping her and anything she'll be like this is what it is So And I don't know if she's more excited than I am but it's close. Yeah, Jemi is pretty close. She got an award for being so excited so but now miss crystal How about you because you had experience in a variety of different places Can you give us a scoop on first of all the podcast that you used to kind of have Where you used to go and then the types of setups that have you you have used because you're like you're so into this stuff It's insane Yeah, I used to run a show I'm in a show for about three years called bullet talk radio And I would go around to outdoors events outdoors sporting sporting and shooting events Different sporting clubs or conferences and the like and as you can imagine there can get some pretty loud booms When you go to a sporting club So your audio gets really interesting um So I really I wanted something that was portable Ish But I'm also a bit of a snob So I didn't want to just take an atr and plug it into my iphone. That's a really great option But I'm too much of a nerd and I wanted to play so I have a task cam dr 44 w l and actually it's currently recording this audio right now. Um, it's kind of my baby It's a recorder and I use that for recording both in office and on the go and actually my husband picked up this mic Very nice. It's a uh, it's a sun hyzer md 46, which is an interview mic So like uh carly was talking about it does have a long stem on it and it's weighted So it's meant to go back and forth, but it's extremely directional So I have to as you can see I'm really up into the mic and I'm right up front I can't go over here or over here So if you're in a conference or if you're in a loud situation having this right in front of you gets really great audio But all the stuff going on around you gets you this really nice kind of ambience sound So it really brings in the environment um, but what I found Was especially when dealing with sportsmen, they're not really used to having microphones put in their face So and when you're doing something like this It's like being a newscaster right you see them on the news where they'll take a microphone They stick it right in the person's face and the person's like, whoa You know, um, and and just as you go to take the mic away, they start talking again, right? Right, and you're like, no, I was done So what I ended up doing You can stop talking now. We're done I'm really bad at leaving myself wide open. So this is gonna be a very interesting show So what I did was um, I picked up a lavalier. It's the shore sm 93 And it's XLR So I actually will plug my sennheiser into one channel on my task cam and this into the other channel I actually wire myself with this I actually put it under my shirt and up through and just tag it in here and it'll stay on me all day literally just all day And then I can just pull out the sennheiser whenever I want and give it to the person I'm interviewing And they can just hold it so I don't have to worry about accidentally cutting them off when I pull it away So that's my basic setup a recorder a mic for the person I'm interviewing in a lab for me and your buds to monitor And oh, can you tell us really quickly the story? I think you told me I think it was I believe it was you that you have tons of stories I know that you forgot to turn on somebody's mic Or where is it that you've got the work and then you've got the recorder on the other one What happened with that? Yeah, um, actually It was they were such nice guys And and they were they were granting me an interview. It was one that I had scheduled before even showing up to the conference and um For some reason for whatever reason I had set the task cam. I was probably recording video Separately at one point wasn't using the sennheiser So I actually had that channel turned off On the task cam so when I went to interview them the only channel that was on was my lavalier So they're holding the mic and they're talking there's two guys and they're standing there sharing the sennheiser and they're talking And it wasn't going in the task camp because I didn't have that channel turned on the only channel that was on was the lavalier That was on me, but unlike a lot of lavaliers. This one's actually a condenser mic So it picked up their end of the conversation So a little bit of editing foo and a late night that was able to save the interview Yay for saving So actually, you know what this brings us out to our next topic Which is kind of like you you said that you you scheduled this interview before you got to the conference and now knowing You know carly you've done some of that live stuff And I know amanda you've done some of that live stuff where you schedule You know a conference or whatever or even just going to a bar Can we start having this conversation around like what is it that you do to prepare for? You know your stuff like Carly will can start with you. Do you pre ask people to interview? Are you one of those people that's like whatever? I'm just gonna show up here's the thing in your face. Yeah I can be a bit of both so um in that particular case I was asked by darin rouse who organizes the event to come and do it and he Set the interview or his team set the interview times So they would just come into the green room at a certain time and I would sit down I've done a bit of pre-preparation Um, which was really just it was for his podcast. It wasn't before it was for the pro blogger podcast It wasn't for my own so There were certain things that like I kind of just sat down with darin and knotted out some ideas Rough ideas for questions and that really formed the basis of the interview um, but and that's kind of I mean that's That's the way that I would probably prefer to do it. Maybe the fly by the city of pants stuff I find I you know, I have I suffer from anxiety. So I find being in those social You know situations and having to approach people. I find that really super uncomfortable. It's just not my natural style So if I've been introduced to someone it just makes it a lot easier for me. So that's kind of the way I approach it mainly just due to mental illness So Well, that is sort of like yeah, I'm like yeah, I mean I feel kind of the way that you feel as well Not that I I'm not too anxiety full But I don't feel as comfortable as I've seen other people around, you know, and it really I mean I remember in the last podcast movement I Forced myself to go up to somebody I did not know and just have a conversation And I just feel that you know in terms of think thinking things out. I really have to Like write things down. I have to be very focused and know that this is what's happening This these are the questions that I want to ask because I'm not particularly blessed to Dig deep and often stumble and say the wrong words because that's just what I do. So And you know, I think um for for callosophies my interviews I do them very differently, but the same deal, right? So I I had to have some kind of structure to my show in order to help ease my nerves so for me I thought about the the key questions that I really wanted to ask and they were about things regarding fear and struggle and failure and freedom and success. It's not totally depressing show And then the the rest of it is so I have this structure where we start with their story and then we move into um The the section where I I call it on the couch where I ask them all the really difficult questions And part of the reason I do that is the story part Helps to break down their Walls a little bit because they're talking and by the time we get to the hard questions We've built up a really solid rapport. So that that story part Has a structure in that they're telling their story But I can totally fly by the seat of the pants and because it's not live that's brilliant because I often go Oh, oh, um, just give me a second because I really don't know what I was about to say then And then I sound really coherent and all that kind of jazz in the edit but during it's a different story But yeah, that's structure. I think sometimes some people are really good at flying by the seat of the pants And in some situations I am but I do like to have a container you know, not just like turn the mic on and Let's go. There has to be some kind of container for me in order for It to be good really. Well, that's that's yeah, and I know crystal you have very Strong thoughts about this as well because you are the prepared master You're like the master prepared lady She's like I've got this and I've got this and I've got this And this and this You know, it's like the least amount points of failure that she can get in something is like This has got it man. So How do you handle going into these, you know situations with all these people? I test my gear first I become intimately familiar with it because I don't especially if I'm in a live situation Where I'm maybe walking a hallway in order to get to them like at a conference or an event and even if it's scheduled You know, they're they're here for you and then they're here and then they're here And you just you've got to move in and you've got to do your thing you've got to move out So they don't have time for me to be fiddling around with my equipment So number one is right make sure that I'm intimately familiar with my equipment I've practiced it and I have plan b plan c plan d and plan z And she does people she does Um But one of the things that I learned when I went to the my very first conference for bullet talk radio was a lot of these conferences have Um media sign up and even if you don't have like a national media pass or whatever a lot of the organizations that run these Conferences have their own media sign up So I would sign up as a podcaster as media and that would get you on the media list And when that happens all the pr people Start calling you And if you're going to a conference where you have celebrities like in my case We have people who are celebrities in the sporting industries or professional shooters Who work just as hard as an nfl player And they have pr people who line up their interviews So I would get calls or I would call the pr people because you get a list And I say I want to talk to this person and this person and this person And that you find out who's approved And when they're available and when they say they're available you say, okay And you show up and you do your research ahead of time Because you want to make sure that you're not wasting their time that you're not asking the same questions every other confounded blogger out there has asked them And you want to build a report. So one of the things I found there's a wonderful woman Jesse Duff. She's fantastic She's an amazing shooter And I had the opportunity to work with her And I found out that she loved horses. I'm a lifelong equestrian So I actually opened my interview with her by talking about horses and she relaxed and I relaxed And then we got into her Bianchi cup wins. So, um, it's really it's it's research It's timing. It's making sure your equipment's good. And then even if you do end up flying by the seat of your pants, you're ready for it That's awesome. So miss barbara, you know, I've heard a couple of your interviews that you've had with people That have been showing off their, you know, their their gear their environmental sustainable practices or what not at their own home Um, one of the yoga teachers comes to mind. There was a yoga teacher that was doing. What was he doing? Was he doing composting outside? He had a warm bed. That's right He had a worm been and so you were talking at his house And I remember feeling that it was such an intimate interview. How did you prepare for that? And what did you use to get that across? I think that one technically I had my the ipad mini and I had the Apogee mic plugged into it, but and I just carried it around and followed him around but basically I Trust the fact that I have an innate sense of curiosity And what I'm curious about I don't mind doing a lot of editing on the back end because you never know When all of a sudden the interview is going to open up and you're going to hear The person's passion about what they're doing kind of Start to fly And and so I guess I would say that I Tend to when I'm in an event like when I went to the hummingbird festival And sit down It was really cool I mean the strangest neatest people across the country came to the hummingbird festival But anyway, that was hard to record at you know, because it was a lot of speeches and talks and this and that So I I tried to get ambient noise that kind of sat like so that you could get the feeling of it And then I scheduled the interviews separately so that I like Hooked up with the people separately on the back end afterwards like So that so that I could actually sit down with them and get an interview But I think It's hard to completely prepare for something in advance because I have often discovered That the best part of the interview is they take me someplace. I didn't know I was going to go Right And it's always it always sounds fantastic because you're so excitable. So that is like, oh my god the discovery is like And then we all get excited about worm bins That was a short lived excitement. I have to say Yes, yes, I still have them, but I'm not fond of them. I mean they do their business out there. It's okay So miss Amanda, how about you? How do you handle? I know you prefer do you prepare a lot because the conversation that you have with um I know there's a word for it. Not the sommelier, but you know the beer guy That's Cicero. Yeah when you were talking to that guy It seemed like you had done so much research about What that job is like the beer job is and the way that you like egged him on like I was very impressed by the level I don't know if you were prepared or you just knew all that stuff Like what's the scoop with the preparation in those places? So, uh, there's there's different things for different types of shows. So for my long shows in order to be able to get in there I'm taking an hour of somebody's time 30 minutes like is the minimum up to an hour Some people try to keep me longer, but I don't want to let them be there Like my audience have to sit through an hour in 20 minutes So somewhere between 30 and minutes in an hour I schedule those no matter what because it's a long chunk of time that you're asking somebody to spend with You so I want to make sure that I have enough time for that and I actually my very first show that I recorded ever is actually episode three but it Yeah, I just that's the way I came out I Overprepared for that. I read up on things and I found that I was dictating the conversation and I really don't want to do that I want to allow my guests to really be able to shine So, uh, for a while I was kind of googling people But i'm really bad at googling people especially in the beer industry because a lot of people don't have a lot of Information out there on them. Um, you know, these are guys that were home brewers and now they brew beer professionally There's not like a lot of background on them. So I don't do any preparing at all like None and I just have this natural curiosity and Um, I pick up some things my memory is horrible. I don't know if you tried to like listen to me try to describe a shock mount You should be able to remember that I've been doing this for a while Remember the beer and the flavors and all that stuff. So, okay. So really quickly Amanda just to kind of Finish this thought up. How did how do you record your round tables? Because there's times when you're like recording and there's like five people live somewhere How do you get the sound for that? Like it's it's the h6. It's great Um, but and then the other piece of it though is that I don't always I flew down to new york and didn't talk to anybody before I went I just showed up at breweries if you wear leather you can just walk in and be like Back to the leather it seems like this is a theme it is and it's uh I'm switching out my lower pro for leather You literally just put all the stuff that you want to bring with you hook it to a piece of leather And walk in like you own the place and they're like, yeah, here you go Here's all of our beer you can try all of it and yeah, I'll talk into a mic about whatever you want It's It is the best piece of equipment I have ever bought ever So now I now I know. Thank you so much Um, so, uh, I have now now this is where I fall off the wagon because you know I'm not necessarily one person that's like doing this on the go and whatever and I generally stick and I haven't shared this Yeah, I generally just use my h2n for almost everything at this moment. I'm using it right now as my external microphone I'll use it as an external microphone or as its own thing when I'm like I have to record a solo something anywhere outside inside in the sound quality I'm always floored by it's just a phenomenal little piece and it's like 150 bucks. It's fantastic And I've recorded it that's what I use too on my leather is that's the one I use is the h2n And I just hook in yeah, and I just hook an 80 uh 2005 to it Oh my gosh, that's great. So wow, but anyway, I use the internal microphones for for this one I don't put anything Externally through it, but this is where I fall off the wagon in terms of of producing any of this I have gotten content. I have gotten interviews. I've gotten people engaged I've had the the the desire to put this out on either one of my podcasts I actually have Incredible sounds from all of the live events that I've done for she podcasts as well as the feed And all of them are still in my computer They have never seen the light of day Because I don't know what to do like I come home and afterwards I'm like I'm so exhausted by the just the recording of it that I don't even know what to do with it anymore I don't want to listen to it. This is when I want to be like here. You listen to it You find the story in all this time So tell me how do we you know, what do you do with the tape that you get? Miss Carly, do you have an answer for me? It was because I had an external deadline Oh, there's that you know, so that was really what did it for me. Um, knowing that It had to go out on somebody else's podcast Who is well respected in the industry? Definitely was the thing that put the fire under my butt. So, um Yeah, I'm not sure I have any answers for you on that one I know Sorry. All right. So Barbara, what about you with your editing because I know, you know, you're like You're an editor. You sit there. You listen to the your interviews You you cultivate a story you find the bits and pieces What what gets you to finish that? torture It's horrible. I mean I it's like you can I I guess what I would say is that I don't know what I would say I would say that That that it's really hard when you have a whole lot of tape and you can't find that but you just have to somehow Well, actually no, I do have an answer markers markers track markers on the editing You know, you can amadeus pro or any of them have have like a little marker place I don't know what you all officially and as I'm listening through the interview because I guess that's what I basically do Is I listen to it the first time through and then I think I'm just going to listen to it and put markers in But I start editing while I'm listening and but but I mark the segments that are Hot that I know have some value for the future um And then I just painfully start clipping them and moving them to the other track them But but the thing that would be great is having more Ambient sound because that's what I think brings a podcast to life. I think when you break it up with Ocean sounds if you're doing you don't have to actually do the interview at the beach But if you have the ocean sounds it takes the listener to the beach You know or a bar or anything like that and I just that's like note to self put more of that in there because I don't I don't because it's it's a pain in the neck But after this, of course, I will do it. Okay, of course because you're on tape. Yes. Now I've learned my lesson Crystal, do you want to school me a little bit on what to do with all that tape? Well, like when it's okay. So before I just give you an open-ended answer like here Here's really the I think a tea thing maybe so you get the tape you're at a conference you come home to your hotel Now what do you start working then? Do you what do you do? What do you do with it? Like I usually start working at the conference Before I ever make it back to my room I pulled the tape if you will right off of my task cam And I move it over to my ipad my ipad has become My production tool of choice I do more on there than I do on my computer these days Um, I pull it in there I make sure it's in the software that i'm going to the app that i'm going to be using I start editing I don't always finish But I can at least get the start and the end time and make sure there's actually audio and All that fun stuff and then by the time I make it to my room Now I just sit down double check the editing and export the mp3 and upload it So I don't do it that day like the way I break up conferences If I'm going to be there five days I have Day one day two day three day four day five and I set up the expectation with my audience that day one You are going to get day one day two. You are going to get day two at the end So by the next morning you've got it there So by doing that it kind of makes it like my job like I'm not going to get paid if I don't get this out So, you know lunchtime at a conference. I'm editing I take advantage of the press box and I go and I'll sit there in the quiet and I'm editing and it's If I'm not recording or walking the halls. I'm editing Holy cow. So now that you were talking about your ipad I know that you want to share and I want you guys to share because she's got all of these like ipad Apps that she's been using so crystal has an ipad pro And she has a bazillion bajillion apps that she uses and I think you guys are going to really really get a lot out of these Um, my favorite one that I use Um, I know some of the guys in the chat are probably going to know exactly what I'm about to say is aria U r i a it's a little bit more pricey Depending on which version you get But it is about as full-fledged a da as you can possibly get on an ipad Um, I actually use I started using this. I got it for christmas. It's so much fun It's a focused right eye track And you just dock your ipad right into it and you can plug a microphone into it So you can even record straight through there into most apps on the i device Um, but aria is a pretty full-fledged da ferret f e r r i t e is also pretty good the downfalls with a lot of those is That they don't export an mp3 and we know in podcasting. We really want an mp3 So what I actually use then is an app called icon I c o n v an icon will take any video or any audio on your i device And you can import from just about any cloud service or on device that you can imagine And export it in just about any other format you want you can take video convert it to audio you can take An m4a and convert it to an mp3 you can take wave aiff put it to an mp3 So whatever da i'm using to edit I'll always pump it out to icon do the final conversion and get it online Many of you have probably heard of boss jack. That's one of the really popular ones you take a usb microphone like the atr 2100 and you plug that into a Camera adapter plug that into your iphone use something like boss jack. You've got a recording studio on the go Doesn't do any editing though So for editing, uh, the only other one I'd say for editing is twisted wave, which I've used the longest It's not pretty. It's pretty ugly and clunky. It looks like something from 2002 But it works really well. So Those are my favorites That's awesome. Yay. So, um miss amanda Yes, how do you uh, what do you do? What's exactly your workflow? I want to hear like you go into a pub You have your interview with either, you know, many people talking beer or one-on-one at a specific location What's your workflow from leaving that? When do you start your editing process? What do you do to get that episode out? Uh, well if we start with like conferences and stuff I um, I literally I'm an I'm an introvert extrovert So when I'm at a conference, I am on and I'm there and I'm a hundred percent As many hours as possible and then I go to bed And so there's no editing And then I come home and I am dead for like Three times as long as I was there for Like my voice is just starting to come back from uh pod fest So, uh, what happens when I come home as I I I I wait until like I've got enough for a month and then I put that all into a dropbox and I send it over to the amazing and lovely john Buchanis And then I try really really really hard to actually get the like I do like live kind of intros and outros So in studio welcome to my studio. This is it Yeah, um, and so I try to do that and I actually because I was gone And I was getting some stuff. I actually owe john's next week's right now, and I forgot to do it today So I think he's watching right now, and I'm sure he's really pissed off at me Yeah, that's tough when you can't you can't get it over there So I was thinking when you don't have a voice. It's really hard It is a challenge. I do agree with that non voices. It's bad for podcasters, but I'm wondering is there a way Um to if anybody has any questions for us out there since you've kind of heard our stories You kind of know who we are ish If you have anything specifically that you would like to ask us it would be super cool for us to check that out I don't know where the questions would be because I have no idea where that is I do know that we do have one question, and I'm not sure any of us have done this before This is from wise traditions and she has asked Um, I want to know how to record a live show With me and a guest in front of a live audience So, um, she's hoping one of us has done this and unfortunately, I know I have not I can only guess so we can also, you know, just Come up with something. Does anybody have any ideas? Yeah, I've got an idea Like I don't know how it would happen You know, I don't I don't know the logistics to make it happen from the microphones that they're speaking into But there's no reason that each person couldn't be miked up separately just using a lab mic and an iphone and recorded Um, and then put back together after that would be a really easy solution Yeah to do like something super like like double-ender in real life Sort of yeah, so you would just have you know, you would just have a lab mic on and the person The other person on stage would have a lab mic on plugged into two separate iPhones or devices and you'd just be recording two separate tracks and Edit them together in post-production that would be Probably the easiest way Yeah, and I know that there is a live I think road actually makes that one isn't it um, there's a little dongle You know There's one called the eye rig which is um, uh, yeah, like a lapel mic that has An adapter so you can add in um headphones to monitor or a second mic Um, yep, and that could do it But I guess the issue with that would be that then you would both be on the one track on the one recording track Rather than two separate tracks for editing it might not matter Um, because if you're recording a live event, I don't imagine that the amount of editing you would do Would be very high because it would just be really You like recording and yeah, so then it probably wouldn't matter that they were on the one track Um, but yeah if they wanted two separate tracks two separate lab mics two separate devices to record on What do you think crystal? Do you have any ideas? Well when you're recording in front of a live audience the thing you have to keep in mind isn't just that You need to do that the the actual recording of your co-hosts and your host and your guest You also need to make sure your live audience can hear So we're talking about having a monitor speaker or a house system as Ray stated in the chat that would allow you to Get that audio out to the people in the house And then uh, whatever recording setup you use would pretty much be about the same as it would be If you were just recording just you guys in the room So I would concur that you would use a different A different set of mics you could record on different tracks if your recorder allows you to You do have to watch as John mentioned doing a sync point So that you can line up those tracks And sync that kind of like syncing a video to audio later on but ultimately your your Your recording setup should be about the same It's it's about making sure that you can tie in so that the people in the audience can hear you There is another um another thought just came to me while you were talking was uh You could if if if if it's being videoed you could potentially just pull the audio from the video So if you're at an event that was all and the guests, you know on stage We're already being videoed then that could be an option too, right? So, uh, John Buchanis and I actually worked on an episode together where we recorded a live band So it wasn't actually me that was doing the um The interviewing but we recorded the band and we placed that into our show So I used my h6. I went right into the house. Um A giant it was huge mixer and my little tiny h6 like jumped right on in there and um It recorded everything and it was actually really beautifully Beautiful the way it came out. Uh, it's one of the episodes. I am the most proud of um, and also I know that You guys are primarily libson But uh speaker also allows you to kind of like have like a live feed. I don't know if uh libson does as well but you can actually like be live Doing your podcast out to the world. There's blog talk radio mixler that do some other things as well I just know speaker because that's who I'm with right now So right and I have 45 minutes a month or 40 No, I guess they were telling me I have 45 minutes at a time But I can do it and I have never been able to do that because it makes me so nervous And I would sweat out so much and pitting out just makes me want to like Uh Somebody was like, oh, it's your year anniversary go be live and I'm like screw you Well, I have to say that I've tried live as well like actually jess and I have Tried to do live recordings. We we we attempted to do a blab Remember blab back in the day. Oh my gosh. We did some Blabs, Elsie. So anyway, we did yeah, but see Yeah, the blab was like It was like jess and I tried and then we got kicked out. She couldn't come in I couldn't hear her. She couldn't hear me and it was like all of a sudden our show was like, are you there? Are you there? No, she's not she's coming It was so like kind of embarrassing because it just ended up being this like mesh this mess And then I couldn't really focus on the topic that we needed to get through like there was really actually no Teaching going on or no information being transferred. It was really just like who's in the chat who's talking? Who are you? Why do what can you hear? And then like I couldn't barely get her attention. So it was like, you know, well, I don't like this I don't like this at all because if I do things live, I would have to just pay attention to Not you guys watching me live and you know, but it would really be about the experience at that moment And it just becomes a challenge for me. Anyway, I didn't I'm not a fan of it To add a little levity Ray is talking about your sheets in the chat right now I just thought you should know Sweet Apparently he has the same set Great We okay ask ask so ask ray where he got him. I'm sure he knows exactly where they're from Ray. Did you hear that? You don't you don't have to like ask her to ask him. They're here. I know that's right Ray Do you know where I got my? But here we're gonna be wrapping it up here and I have like a little bit of a wrap up for all of us to just kind of like Let's start with miss Barbara Edelman. Can you please Share something that you would like to Let the listeners know that is is is about Podcasting to go, you know something that you either want to possibly ask us so that we can help you out Or something that you feel like, you know what guys this is so important. This has helped me out so much I really want you guys to keep this in mind when doing any kind of to go type of podcasting And then after you're finished with that do tell us where we can listen to your podcast or hook up with you Well, I think all of the questions that I had were answered because you guys are really all I am just amazed by the level of information that has been shared in this podcast I mean, I am blown away by it not not not specifically about the leather harness, although I'm sure husband Be excited if I started to wear I the information has been great, so I don't actually have any other questions and okay great God knows I don't have any great technical expertise to share. I can't even get my camera Working Listen to my podcast it is called how you can save the world and it's about Environmental sustainability It's the simple steps anyone can take at home to stop global warming and it's also about social activism Which I know is something that we're all kind of dealing with right now and you can get it on iTunes Yes, so search for her barbara Edelman or how you can save the world. It's a fantastic a fantastic podcast guys So charlie, would you like to go next please? Well, what would my I guess, you know my whole shtick is it's always about progress over perfection so um You know, so I think we can get really hung up in what's the right way to do this and what's the right way to do that and Go externally seeking for answers when really it just matters that you show up at the mic, you know That's the most important thing Um, the rest is an added bonus and if it sounds good, that's fantastic, you know, but um, I feel like often we can We can we can you know tend these kind of events and go away feeling maybe like we don't know enough or like we We should know more or really overwhelmed by all the information that was shared Um, and I think it's really important then to just connect back to the fact that You know, it is it's progress over perfection. So Don't let yourself get overwhelmed. Just keep moving forward Um, and then in terms of where you can connect with me. So my podcast is carlosapis It's in all the usual places. Um, and you can connect with me on facebook I'm just carly nimo with a k and a y um and Radcasters.com is my podcasting school and there's a lot of resources and information there Sweet amanda. What do you have to say? So my whole thing is I mean you could kind of put leather in there too if you want to but no, um, my my whole thing is You know, I have totally found that the more that I let my freak flag fly and I just embrace who I am and my own geekery And you know, all that that is I mean I in a very quick small nutshell I am disney. I am beer. I am podcasting and i'm johnny cash so That is me In a tiny little nutshell, that's me And the more that I just like put that out there and I show the world. This is who I am the more the universe gives back to me I think it's the same way with everything in life the more that you embrace yourself the more, you know You really get to Just do what's you and you know listening to crystal talk about like how she wears her thing all up underneath her shirt I'm like, ooh, that's such a wonderful geeky idea. I love that Um and for already talking about 50 shades of podcasting in the chat rooms You know in the lab, okay, so ray just said too bad. She's married. That's like the fourth time somebody has commented on the fact that Ah, all right. Anyways, let your freak flag fly You can find my show great beer adventure where we look at all things Beer like all things beer not just beer like like what I'm drinking But more than that the stories and the passion the creativity Around the beer culture great beer adventure all the usual places and then I love to live over on instagram great beer adventure Right on crystal Well, i'm in between shows right now I'm working on a new project But in the meantime, you can find me over at crystal o'connor.com or on twitter at coco tech and also anything support related over at Lipson liberated syndication My thing, you know, I I I really have to give hats off to What the other ladies have said so far everything is absolutely spot on and right what works for me may not work for you What works for carly may not work for me it really depends on your scenario It depends on what you're willing to carry on your shoulder It depends on where you are Um, but absolutely correct show up at the mic and have fun. You are going to get So many Experiences you are going to meet people. You never thought you would ever meet Uh, you will gain mentors. You never thought you would ever gain By taking your microphone and going out on the road So enjoy it learn from every minute and show up Be confident and just get out there and just be confident that you have a microphone dammit Right yes So um my little uh piece of advice I think it's something that I really like to work with is like the least amount of points of failure that you have Is the better thing. I'm you know, although I adore tech I really love especially in live events to have things like, you know, if something's wrong with whatever it is that you're using You know that it's there's one cord There's one little thing. There's one dongle and so you know that it's either that or The internal like sd card or like it's very it keeps it very simple because I know for myself Being live sometimes to connect with the people is a lot more important than messing with the tech And I've been you know, I used to do a live yoga class that I used to teach all the time And one of my biggest things that I used to do and I was actually going on the go And I used to use my h2n with a lapel mic on the side And I would just literally press record and I would just go and if it didn't work It didn't work. I never checked the tech I just kind of went with it because I always thought that if it's taking away from the experience of the people live Of the experience of just us together then I didn't really Hit what I wanted to do my whole point was to connect with them And then if I get a really great piece of tape bonus, right? And of course the more we do it the better it gets Um, and uh, I want to say thank you to ray ortega for allowing us to take over his podcast It does take a lot of courage to let somebody else I think I I think I owe him apology too. I'm sorry for getting you tagged And um, you can find me over at yogiq that would be y o g e e k most places online You can find me, uh the feed uh the official lips and podcasts as well as she podcasts And you can come and hang out with us in the group if you happen to be female um, and uh That's about it. So thank you optional No, it never is optional Oh my goodness. All right. So but we have had a great time. Thank you so much And hopefully we'll bring another conversation to you this way anytime soon and you guys subscribe to the podcasters round table This is one of the best podcasts out there to hear so many different podcasters Share their voices and their experiences together Thank you Bye guys