 His name is Deckard and he is a quite the little debutante already Four months. Yeah, he looks like I know it's like a full grown cat And we got him he was skinny and sort of smallish He's one of those cats too that loves a bath like just will lay in the water and let you do whatever you want So when we do bathe him, it's you then reminded how small he actually is because he's super skinny underneath But it's the fur. It's all fur. Mm-hmm. He'll just lay there Well, you dump water right on him. He doesn't care So we're so we're ten sec. Oh five seconds out So I'll have you just read the patron read. Okay, and then I'll do the music and then we do the rest And we have the video stream. Yes. It's going live. It says live in everyone's corner, right? It does yep Yep, I see it. I see the orange button All right, keep yourself three and then when you're ready, okay in three two Daily tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to deli tech news show comm slash support This is the daily tech news for Wednesday in May 23rd 2018 from studio feelin. I am Sarah Lane Tom Merritt is on vacay this week Salt Lake City where I've been fished for the first time. It's a long story. I'm not gonna tell it here But I feel for a fishing scheme for the first time in my life. I'm Scott Johnson. How do you Set that up and not tell us what happened. I know I can give you the short of it I got a bunch of codes from Blizzard Entertainment to give away to our fantastic listeners of a show of mine they were all excited about getting codes for this beta of a game that comes out in August and Then somebody followed up with another email saying hey, I'm part of the systems team here here are five additional codes in case any Don't work. I need the full spreadsheet of all the names of people that you were giving these to at the end So we can verify access. I didn't bother to dig much further. I thought it was legit I sent them the whole spreadsheet and now nobody can get their codes to work. So Well done internet. You got me. Oh man. Yeah, it's a bummer We're working it out though Blizzard's amazing and I'm an idiot and we're gonna make it make good on all of it But it's still annoying and kind of a pain in my butt. Well, yeah, I mean it does happen Even to the smart people such as Roger Chang Roger. How are you? I'm good. How are you? Oh, I'm good. Thank you What's going on in the eastern part of our? LA basin it's Surprisingly chilly. It's like in the mid-60s here and it's overcast nice It's a traffic later or just just the weather now or traffic Well, you know what we do do tech news. So let's start with a few tech things you should know Sources tell Bloomberg that Apple's manufacturing partner TSMC is making seven nanometer processors for new iPhones that should be launched later this year Possibly called the A12 that would be the next successor The seven nanometer design would be faster smaller and more efficient than the 10 nanometer chips that Apple uses in the iPhone 8 and 10 Currently TSMC said in April it did start mass producing seven nanometer processors But at the time did not say who for Speaking of Apple Apple users in the EU can now download a copy of all the data Apple has collected via a new data and privacy website Which has App Store and iTunes activity Apple ID and device information online and retail activity Apple care support history and more all the stuff you've really ever done where they have data from you the EU got priority due to GDP are and roll out to the rest of the world soon So they plan on making this available everywhere despite the fact that these are not rules in some countries But they want to make it everywhere Apple says it will take up to seven days to process requests for security reasons Sarah go blank. Yeah, and then we have Sources till axios Ireland based online gaming company Patty power bet fair is buying fantasy sports site Fan dual the two companies had possible merger talks earlier this month after the US Supreme Court ruled that states can legalize sports betting Patty power will manage its US assets with fan dual and contribute a hundred and fifty eight million dollars in cash Fan dual planned a 2017 merger with DraftKings But was denied by US antitrust regulators guess what Roger guess what's still in Gambling people are into it turns out. It's uh, it's uh, it's a thing that won't go away. It's like eating Yeah First of all, I love the fact that a gaming company is called Patty power bet fair based in Ireland So good work And we actually Roger and I talked to Justin last Thursday about this and you know, both of us were sort of like gambling How's that work? Is it a big deal? So? Luckily, we will be with him tomorrow to talk a little bit more about the story and what it means All right, let's talk a little more about Comcast Comcast Comcast confirms it's preparing to buy large portions of 21st century Fox Including Fox's 30% stake in Hulu for a rumored 60 billion dollars as part of a hostile bid You might recall Walt Disney currently has a 52.4 billion offer to buy the same company The sale does not include Fox news Fox business or the Fox broadcasting company Separately Comcast is in the process of trying to acquire sky as well, which is a British pay TV network We're gonna talk about this a little later in the show But a lot of speculation going on. We are not too far from a reality where Most of the content and media of this world will be owned by one of two corporations Disney or Comcast and they will be fighting until the end So for those who are worried about not having enough competition in the future when it comes to this stuff at least you'll have to Two choices out there and they're gonna own everything and I don't know how I feel about it But we will talk way more in the middle of the show Cisco's Talos intelligence group says that more than a half a million routers and network devices in 54 countries have been infected with malware It's called F. P. Or sorry VPN filter Which contains a kill switch for routers can steal logins and passwords and can monitor industrial control systems Oh, that last one makes me nervous VPN filter has infected routers in the Ukraine in particular with a spike in infections in the Ukraine on May 8th And May 17th Talos research researchers say routers from link sys micro tick netgear TP link They're all affected And they use malware shares that many of the same code is you or sorry That the malware shares many of the same code use used in known Russian cyber attacks and called the attack quote Likely state sponsored unquote. Well, that's a comforting paragraph. Isn't it? Yeah, I mean If the lion's share of the affected routers are in Ukraine One would come to that conclusion Right What that means? I'm you know, I'm certainly, you know, not You know up on up on the news enough to speculate. However, having a kill switch for a number of routers in the you know, 500,000 plus is Is That is significant. No, it's breathtaking like that's a lot of routers. Now what that would actually mean I'm trying to think practically might mean well routers down This is a very sensitive thing So we need to go to our redundant routers if those are also down Then I don't know like redundancy is a question and I would hope that a lot of these Places, especially the ones referring to themselves as let's see. What do they call themselves? Industrial control systems. Let's hope that they have more than just a little bit of tape and and string to keep all that stuff together Uber is shutting down testing of self-driving cars in Arizona after one of its cars killed a pedestrian in March That was a an accident. I think we've talked about it on the show before in an internal email Uber executive Eric Mayhofer Wrote that uber would be shifting its focus to Pittsburgh where the company has been testing self-driving cars since 2016 and San Francisco where uber is also headquartered uber hopes to resume testing in Pittsburgh this summer after all testing was grounded Following the accident about 200 at uber employees Jobs in Arizona will be affected by this change I Still don't know why I mean I understand There's an accident. I get it. You want to take all precautions It was Elon Musk who was who was ranting on Twitter not long ago about you know for for the one accident that you hear about From an from an autonomous car. No one reports on the 30,000 that happened that same year just from regular old driving And I think he kind of has a bit of a point in regards to where we're focusing the news but because this is a new thing it's this Potentially an industry altering life altering culturally altering thing that could happen over time That's why the media tends to focus on the the flub ups as they happen I but I don't quite understand why Arizona would no longer be a good testing place for this It seems like there are plenty parts of Arizona anyway that would be I don't know less people walking around so yeah Yeah, I mean I know Pittsburgh for uber in this market, you know, they've been testing for a couple of years now So in that sense it it makes sense that they would want to keep testing as long as everything's been going well there There is probably a lot of local backlash that maybe you don't Hear about or you know feel unless you're in the Arizona area where somebody actually died So this is probably a little bit of a PR thing 200 uber employees losing their jobs. Not good I know the majority of those were Self-driving testers. So, you know, it's possible that it was you know a market that You know, it wasn't going to be expanding anyway for uber, but You know just kind of unfortunate. Yeah President Trump may find ZTE and force management changes to the board And managers as well as an alternative to the current seven-year ban on US firms supplying parts to ZTE Which has effectively broken ZTE's business Members of Congress have already accused the president of making a deal with a company that ZTE That has already admitted to violating sanctions on Iran Trump said that US tech companies have also been hurt by the Commerce Department's decision back in April that Prohibits them from selling components to ZTE Trump said a fine could reach 1.3 billion dollars But he didn't give details on how this would be legal and he has the jurisdiction to do this Yeah, I don't have a ton to say about it except I Find this this ZTE story as it develops is super super odd like it just seems at at contradiction to policy During both the lead up to the election and since he's taken office It seemed like we were trying to position ourselves in a much more Competitive position against Chinese practices in terms of how we're doing commerce with them now versus what we'd want to do And it seems like this is like a weird one-off where someone's got a friend someplace and it's weird Like I find it very very strange that we're we're throwing any Money heat effort whatever behind trying to save a Chinese corporation Again, I'm not saying that's the bad idea or a good idea or whatever that idea is I'm just saying it feels contrary to everything else leading up to it so I don't quite understand it and I don't think it's political to say that You know this we run into these things here and there in this administration So maybe it's not that surprising but I find this one in particular especially from a tech angle just a little odd Very weird starting today u.s Facebook users can now browse through home service professionals in the Facebook marketplace. Oh, I just had something done to my fence I should have done this including house cleaners plumbers contractors as well as price quotes for services like handy home advisor and porch They're all partners at the launch as of last year marketplace has been growing at a rate of 18 million new listings per month That's a lot at least I think it is and search volume has increased three times as of last October Amazon is a pretty similar category launched several years ago While Walmart recently partnered with handy and Google is also working with both home advisor and porch to connect its voice assistant users with home pros nearby that's fascinating to me because I do think that Like ride sharing we've talked about over before I just feel like there's a lot of room to grow in the space of I Need to get something fixed replaced added to whatever and Being able to get those services in a way that are less about me looking up something in the yellow pages and getting 50 bids If Facebook is the hub for that I guess that's cool. I don't know. How do you feel about it? You would you know the three of us were talking before the show and I was like I have never once used the Facebook marketplace at least not to you know, they actually get a service I kind of look through it here and there every once in a while, but just haven't used it But okay, so what do I do if I want somebody to fix my plumbing? I Search for plumber Venice, California on the internet, you know So it's like I'm kind of doing what Facebook is trying to make easier for all of us They're partnering with companies that already have a Large number of professionals that they're you know trying to connect with me. So it's not like they're reinventing the wheel but as you mentioned if some If you and Roger and you know, maybe a couple other people say like this is the best plumber Then I'm gonna do that if I find that on Facebook all the better and everybody's on Facebook Mm-hmm. Yeah an 18 million listings a month seems pretty good to me We just had a fence thing done and we did the old-fashioned way called around the names that we found and I think we googled them But it was basically like looking them up in the yellow pages and had two or three bids and then picked the lowest guy And it all worked out fine and everything was good But I am I am not surprised to see this stuff getting more and more centralized more and more automated more and more You know connected to to the people who need the work done And Facebook's huge. So why not? You know, we're all this talk about Facebook lately and all of the negative press that Facebook gets In recent news. This is actually a pretty positive thing I think and then someone will figure out a way to take advantage of it Then we'll all be mad that it exists. Yeah, I fight with people. Well, I don't fight with them I secretly fight with them in my brain With people on Facebook about all sorts of things, but if somebody tells me like this is the guy This is your plumber. I'm probably gonna go with that, you know It's that social social network working for us Hey everybody to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes or less subscribe to daily tech headlines Com All right, so we talked a little bit earlier in the show about the idea of Comcast buying 21st century Fox rather than Disney which already has a bid out and You know, I mean it still had to go through regulation But a lot of people thought that that was that was the deal So Comcast is bid is not too much higher. It's 60 billion rather than 52 point four billion Which is Walt Disney's offer which is considered a hostile bid because they're trying to take over something That's already in process Doesn't include again like we said before Fox News Fox business Fox broadcasting includes sports includes movies includes a 30% stake in Hulu Along with other things Steak in Hulu, right? I don't think they're I think that's all Fox's controlling interest is in Hulu at the moment So be the entirety of their interest in Hulu. I think, you know what I read this story Beyond the sort of like I don't know like one big company buys Fox or another one does The Hulu thing is interesting to me because Hulu has Along with Amazon and Netflix and and some some other networks had some original content successes lately Right and that is something that a lot of companies want to get a bite of 30% stake. Well, okay but that seems like along with The whole film arm of this that this is probably very attractive to a company like Comcast Yeah, no, I mean look Comcast already I mean I said earlier in the show We really are heading to a place where it's two main competitors in media whether we like it or not That's where we're headed and if we don't like it, we should do something about it I guess but it seems like that's kind of how we're gonna go Here's my thinking Comcast already owns NBC and then all the NBC owned properties sci-fi I can't even think of them all but all the NBC cable channels all of that stuff already This would that now be Comcast owning what would have been one of the big four rival networks and therefore owning two of them Now Disney owns one of them Also, it's CBS or ABC. I always forget which one ABC so So they're they're similar but not quite in that they don't have two major networks that are normally pitted against one another Having them under the same roof to me That seems like weird competition rule breaking and I don't know anything about those laws So some of what one of these smart lawyers that listens to DTNS is gonna write in and set this entire record straight I'm stoked about that They're so smart, but that feels like a weird Thing to me and I know that you know you could say this about all the channels they own if why isn't sci-fi? Check technically competition for NBC Prime. I don't know But it does feel like having Fox in there is a little bit weird how this applies to me though is who gets X men Who gets the rights to? The fantastic for to finally do that stuff, right like just from a nerd perspective I was excited about Disney because Disney's got the MCU rolling like a monster right now and they're getting it right So I don't know what NBC does with that or rather Comcast does with that Like does that become some kind of weird cable exclusive? Do they not even touch those things they let them sit do they work with Marvel on some kind of deal? And then that's a twisted thing where the two biggest media corporations in the world are Sharing ideas like I don't know like the whole thing feels like in 20 years if we flash forward We just find a hellscape of two companies running everything Well, I mean if you look at it from the perspective of what they're what they're looking to What they will get when they get this they'll get an Additional outlet for their content which includes licensing rights that they don't already have and they get a production arm That allows them to generate more content to very important things for any media conglomerate the ability to generate content and an outlet in which to sell it through and so they could very well be positioning themselves not just from a very US centric position But in the global perspective right by by being able to to leverage the licensing rights that Fox already had in various countries Because you know, it's you know, there's gonna be a time where all these companies are gonna be global companies And they're going to I mean they already are but in terms of content You know, do you want to kind of do what Netflix does is I produce once and you can watch anywhere, right? Whether I'm in France or whatever Australia I can watch the same season of stranger things that gets shown in the US and actually Yes And so what I am thinking is that they're looking at it to to expand their reach in the US But also to kind of broaden out their international reach That they think so desperately want Of note and we mentioned it earlier in the show Comcast is also looking to buy sky which is a big British pay TV subscriber and also If this were to happen, right? Comcast still has to get through the Department of Justice, which is currently trying to stop AT&T from buying Time Warner and Rumors in the past said that a judge was expected to rule on the AT&T Time Warner merger by June 12th and Comcast was waiting for that outcome to make a move. So for whatever reason they have not waited Well, if Tom is here, he would be talking me down for my emotional reaction tree But since he's in Australia running around on beaches having a good time. All I can do is think about our our Blade Runner future where everything is mega corporation controlled governments are no longer really governments and and By the people that run by giant faceless corporations and well devil's advocate is that Ideally if this goes through you would be able to get a lot of this content through One pipe now the pricing of that pipe might vary depending on where you're at But like you would be able to get all a lot of these unless Comcast wants to reintroduce these the The set but you know the tiering that we have on cable at least in the US cable TV, right? We have different tiers so, you know another way to kind of Segment their subscription offerings or segment their offerings in the various subscriptions Right. They also own all these stations now under these subsidiaries and would if they got Fox They'd have that much more that would include FX and a million other things Fox is doing plus all the Fox production stuff That's already shows and other networks and then If you're a traditional cable subscriber, they're controlling The actual pipe to your house like not just the internet forget about that for a minute Just the cable to your house to get you the the programming you want is also them controlling it like none of this seems like it should I don't know about legal Nebulous in terms of its legality. It seems very cartel like I think I think the More than Disney for whatever reason, I don't feel like the Disney one is quite as as hardcore He doesn't do broadband subscriptions. Do they do they offer like the the Magic Kingdom tier of high-speed broadband or like, you know, the teapot Level like if you just eat, they did it would be safe to say they would gouge us just like Comcast It's it's what's interesting though is the 16 billion will be be financed So it's probably not something I mean something they're gonna need to borrow money for right? They don't have to 16 billion on hand to pay for it. So The date there is a danger that if some of this stuff falls out in terms of Popularity of content that Fox has or they're not cranking out movies that people want to watch it could be it could It could handcuff the company because they would have invested so much money Into this acquisition. I mean long term, you know, so It's I mean, it's a the obvious. There's an obvious benefit for Comcast Upfront but there's a potential for a downside if you know things if superhero comic book movies suddenly to get cold And you know, they need to come up with another genre that they're not, you know in a position to provide right Well, I think it's fascinating me too. I I don't know. I mean this was a Story that broke. Well, I broke this morning, but you know, it's it's it's timely So we're gonna have a lot more updates on this Whether or not this actually happens whether the DOJ is going to approve it and more Whether or not cleaner is the newest Disney princess now I don't have closure on this because they get cleaner you get mash in this deal and if They like control all the old mash stuff anything they do might do in the future and clinger was supposed to be the latest greatest The Hogan's heroes make it happen All right, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit every day We use your your stories to choose our own especially for headlines I did it this morning submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com and Facebook dot com slash groups slash daily tech news show is where to go if you prefer Facebook We don't care. We just want to chat with you and thanks for the support Time to check the mailbag mark in Canada has thoughts on our story We talked about yesterday about Amazon providing facial recognition tech to law enforcement Roger and Patrick and I were sort of like Okay, what's this all mean mark says Amazon acquired ring not too long ago unlike the competition like nest hello Ring doorbell cameras don't do facial recognition at least not now It also doesn't record 24-7 video like the nest hello You can see here that Amazon maybe is trying to perfect that AI and then maybe even use the network of ring doorbells to help spot Suspects given that they also start providing 24-7 recordings ring already promised facial recognition in an update coming this year Wow, I need to get a ring. You guys have one. No, okay. I don't I don't I Don't necessarily think that Amazon is trying to provide technology to law enforcement so that law enforcement can tap into people standing at our doorsteps, but But I do think that if Amazon is trying to prove its AI model and Law enforcement is really great way to you know do that Then it's not necessarily some nefarious step that it's taking also somebody came to your house and was like a known burglar or something like that Just just to throw this out there as a hypothetical, you know We may get emails on this but let's say that happened at Sarah's apartment and you got this you got a notification that Hey, there was a suspect actually tried to come and ring your doorbell while you were gone That helped lead to his arrest just so you know it was because of the data Amazon sells To the to law enforcement that we were able to get him. Good job. Justice has been done. How would you feel about that? It's hard I feel like if it was actually somebody that was trying to rob me. Thank you Amazon. Otherwise I know this one's very catch-22. Anyway, got another email Mike a proud patron and self-described cyborg Who attended Tom's a meet-up in Melbourne this week, so that's cool. I heard that one by the way Hey, sir and Roger just letting you know I had an awesome time at the Melbourne meet-up yesterday really enjoyed meeting Tom and chatting with Raj and Peter and the other DTNS fans Tom had a good laugh when I mentioned that the first podcast I ever heard him on was actually how I wow a world of war crass Crass cast podcast Geez by Patrick way back in the day. Anyway, keep up the good work while Tom is away Well, I'll have you know that that show Spawned from the instance a show I host so Mike we're all in the same soup now full circle. 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Talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network frog pants network get more shows like this at frog pants comm Time and club hopes you have enjoyed this bro Well done. Well done everyone. I'm just not realizing my video looks kind of murky murky It's a little it's not your I mean it feels like it's a Bitrate thing to me, but maybe not So earlier, thank you Roger What I had not done was turn off my Wi-Fi even though I was connected to ethernet and it made Scott go crazy Oh, that's was that when we lost you for a bit Yeah, I mean I could hear you kind of I thought it was you and then I realized it was me. Oh Yeah, I always have to do that. I hate to I hate forgetting that to turn that Wi-Fi off when it's connected wired It's the same. I don't know why it does that or why it jumps from one to the other if I've got good wired Why is it even listening to my Wi-Fi port? It's stupid. Yeah Well, we've established that this particular room I'm in is not good for Wi-Fi. So whenever it's on it confuses everything. Gotcha. I can't use one of these days We're gonna do a whole episode about this, but I can't use Bluetooth anywhere outside of my house unless I walk a mile that way Really? Yeah, it's in this inside. No problem. No issues anywhere in the house I can I can be 30 feet from something and still have uninterrupted Bluetooth the second I walk out the front door if It's if it's more than like a foot away from my my earbuds or whatever it is. I'm using forget it Something out there. I don't know what it's interfering But then it goes away if you get I get further as far as I possibly can so the only thing I can think it could be is there's a bunch of new construction and new homes that have gone up across the way and I think there's so many Wi-Fi signals and potentially Signals flying everywhere that there's just like a conflict, you know, just too much traffic or something I don't know enough about Bluetooth to say it actually because I don't actually know how it's supposed to work But all I know is like if I'm wearing wireless ear earbuds or headphones and I've tried it with multiple brands different types of phones tablets It doesn't matter what I do It's always the same Until I get I don't know about halfway through the walk I do in the morning and then it clears up Weird right. Yeah, it is weird. I don't love it. Yeah, why would you? Remember my parents moved out to where they were the phone reception while spotty was pretty decent I mean like I you know if I was on a phone call one drop out But as soon as people's other people started moving in and they built more houses all went to pot. That's probably it Just white Bluetooth though because my Wi-Fi no problems Everything about Bluetooth. It's just doesn't make any sense Get down from your emotional reaction tree Facebook face. It's your home the best plumber one to broadcast them all Scott needs a ring There can only beat there can be only two ah That's a very Star Wars reference. Hmm. Yeah well What strikes everyone's fancy? They're all in the same soup now Scott was fished there can only be two is pretty good Except it's not it doesn't make sense till you hear the episode. Yeah Well, we could say Dell or not Dell Disney or Comcast who do you hate more? Such a loaded title I know your answer Roger What? What if we said? What if we said 21st century Fox there can only be two 20 21st 21st century Comcast well It could be 21st century Comcast be would be I'm cast in the 21st century Oh, how about just Disney's better I'm careful to be too biased towards Disney It's just that they make things I'm into right now But I could just as easily turn on them for being well, you can turn on Disney for having ridiculous Reason to extend copyright law to ridiculous degrees. Oh, yeah, you know, among other things Yeah, it's you guys talk about Google removing the don't be evil thing from their deal officially We feel about that we okay with that I think it's like it it's it's either I don't know it means nothing But like if it means nothing why do it? So what's interesting is that can be one of two things one the there their messaging is caught up with their behavior or There is a shift in the company that no longer has that kind of starry-eyed For a bunch of Stanford grads running this out of our closet You know kind of view of the world and something a little more hard-nosed Yeah, this is business. I just feel like if you're like hey, we shouldn't say don't be evil anymore It's like why would get any company, you know, even a for-profit company be like We are now so you may as well be evil or we know we may as well not have the legal The legal what's the word? The liability liability by saying that we're not because if we end up having to be for some complicated reason We don't want to be held that standard for some complicated reason like oh, we need to retain all our monies But it's it's not like you can like a launch a class action suit against Google for being evil No, not even mean You know, it's one of those things, you know The thing is you're assuming that it applies in the US it could be in foreign Overseas jurisdictions. That's true. That might be a thing. It might be like evil not allowed Like you're breaking the law by being by saying you're you're you're not evil, but you're being evil. Yeah See Scott was fist on the same suit now get down for emotional reaction tree you better you bet I Think we should use there can only be two, but we should add Comcast versus Disney Yeah Like that You know, so there can only be or so like Comcast Disney there can only be two. Oh, I guess that would be there can only be one. Yeah Do the There's a peacock out Fox out Fox the mouse Peacock versus Matt Peacock versus I wish Comcast had its own Because that just sounds like NBC which I know they own but it's not really them versus them now Like in the big one of the big series saves last week after cancellation was Brooklyn 99 Which Fox canceled an NBC picked up But NBC was always the production company Even when it was on Fox like it's such a to that whole world is so twisted together it's so it's so it's so twisted together because there are Relationships that extend between individuals and groups that that Go beyond the actual company that they're working at and so what you'll often time see is people might have a personal relationship They may work at opposing companies, but you'll get a deal Through that way. I mean it Hollywood really is built on the foundation of of who you know. Yeah and so it's You know, it's it's illogical to an outsider, but makes perfect sense if you know If you imagined that entire business community like high school, right? It's just you know, you have certain cliques that stay together and even if you end up in different class Classes like oh, you're an AP biology. I'm in just regular biology. You'll still you know hang out and Don't work out something Yeah, you like that Nick your entire life's like high school. How you feel about that? Yeah, you know, you're all excited you are to get out of high school got bad news for you Welcome to welcome to the infant not infant time in infant Infantization the infantization. Yeah, no more of a juvenile behavior that just extends well past college. Oh, yeah Yeah, you're just getting this is all just a test bud. Yeah Last week officially of school versus Disney fight. I like that Perfect That's the one broke the log jam. Oh Jim I was trying to get people to send us photos of their DTS gear, but hopefully I didn't bungle that too much High school, I just remember high school being very odd until my senior year Like there are so many things I didn't care about in a social sense. I Think part of it is because I was going to JC at the same time to take some of my classes instead of taking them in high school Because I didn't like my teachers got it. I Just went to night school instead at 17. I got Well, did that give you a jump up on like general stuff that you would have had to do anyway No, no, it was just high school credit. Yeah Didn't even know you could do that I went to my first year of college saved me a lot of money I I honestly think JC's are some of the most underappreciated halls of learning in this country People literally flock to things like, you know, and I'm gonna name them like, you know, Phoenix It's a Phoenix University University of Phoenix. Oh these online and you're you're literally getting yourself and hawk for An education of question mark question mark, you know, of you know, not that this poor but of questionable use For what you want to do because oftentimes a lot of these places Positioned themselves as kind of a Book study to job, you know transfer and that's not always the case The JC you're not actually paying that much They work around your schedule because they offer a number of courses the classes for the same course go when you need to And honestly Being there in person and this is the thing I've always appreciated about JC's is you meet a very eclectic mix of students Like when I was taking history western western civilization We had students that were, you know, like me like just right out of high school But also people well into their 80s like that were taking courses For them they were getting a degree But it was it was kind of neat because you had a variety a diversity of opinion And and perspective as well as life experiences one of the guys we we had my philosophy class was Uh a merchant marine and you know finally was done with that in his late 40s He was getting into he wanted to get a business degree. So he started JC And he could You know talk about, you know, the various philosophies of the regions of the world that he visited because of the merchant marine And it was just fascinating because you wouldn't get this out of like, you know The same set of high school students that were just, you know, together a year ago just at a different school Yeah, that's true I agree with that. I I'm the best art class I ever took was in a JC class Easily the best I ever had I had a whole bunch after a whole bunch before but I learned more there than And use more of it now than I did and maybe that was just a single teacher one of a kind good timing deal I don't know, but Ended up working really in my favor. Well, you know a lot of the instructors at JC's are actually professionals who do that On the side or they do that during a lull in their normal work And it's always great when you can have someone An instructor that's currently doing that field of work and rather than being just a You know A slice of an academic who all they do is teach that specific course That's why state so state was great everyone in Becca At one time or another or was still like Connie was still working in the business Hey, you want to help me shoot this commercial? I'll give you extra credit Roger and I were in the same program at Francisco state. So Becca was uh, Technically, that's what we graduated with. Yeah, that was our degree broadcast and electronic communication arts Exactly. I'm not sure if it's still called that Yeah, I'm sure they changed it. It's probably so when people are like, oh, what's your degree? And I say broadcasting and they're like, oh, what's that mean? I'm like, eh all that stuff we learned It's obsolete doesn't matter for now No, the junior college that I went to was santa rosa junior college, which is a really big one. Um You know, I know that there are varying sizes, but um A lot of kids at a high school went there, you know, it was cheaper. You didn't necessarily have to leave home um You can get like a lot of stuff out of the way before you kind of know what you want to do with life It didn't make a lot of sense to me and again, you know, maybe it's because I just didn't want to leave home But like, you know at 17. I was like, I don't want to Choose my future. I just want to do this and figure it out for another couple of years So it worked really well for me You know what I honestly believe that should be kind of the um Thing that we do where we you know, like I know four-year degrees are all the rage and that's kind of like We should pay for four years I honestly think we should just cover the first cover two years at jc And then you'll figure out the rest of your life from there Like it'd be cheaper to cover But I think it would be more valuable because one of the things that I've always found Kind of irritating is the belief that everyone needs to have a four-year degree and I don't They lose everyone. No. No. Okay. I'm listening now. Yeah Another thing about at least at the jc and the state system when I was going through it was it was very hard to get into certain uc or state schools Because You know a lot of kids everybody's smarter than you right, you know, like I can't compete with a valedictorian to go to berkeley But if you transfer from a jc It's not hard to get in no and you know why it's because transfers get first dibs And not like why wouldn't anybody just you know, it's like a little It's a little it's a little life hack It's a life hack, but it saves you so much money It's like you take the two years and you get your pre-requisites out of the way So when you go to a uc or or s or a csu california state university or university of california, those are different years Of the the state school system is that uh, you don't need to spend the money on those first two years Instead you can just go straight into your major. So you take all your coursework related to your major instead of taking a bunch of prerequisites Well, we've got it all figured out rudge. All right, and on that note, we'll see you folks tomorrow Bye everybody