 The football clubs which pulled out of the controversial European Super League could be fined, and that's according to rheometry presidents Florentino Perez. He told a Spanish radio station that nobody has yet paid the penalization fee for leaving. He hinted at a clause which stipulates a fine for the eight clubs that have left. Perez also says the Super League is still alive. Joining us to discuss this is plus TV Africa's sports producer and anchor Wally Scott. Good morning Wally Scott. Perez says the league is still alive. How is that so? Very stubborn man though. You guys leave the league and you guys form a breakout league. They've called it stand, they've called it everything wrong. Yes, these big clubs believe that the pandemic has come and gone, they've lost, they're canceling their losses and they want to make money and quickly. But I understand that, but I think they are going to have a very wrong way because they feel like we are the brands of the Champions League. Without the real Madrids of this world, Manu, Chelsea, there's no Champions League, there's no Ronaldo, there's no Iguain. Yeah, I agree. But they should have done, had a meeting with the coaches, the players, the fans. They actually arranged this, but they just felt we are the big clubs, we have the money to spend, we don't need your consent, we have to get it done. Now it's broken down, the fans have said we own the game and they are protesting everywhere and the clubs say, okay, we're not doing the game. The fans don't like the idea, we don't want it either. And then Perez comes and says, this is not all the clubs have backed out, only the English clubs have backed out. And then the Spanish La Liga clubs, the Italian clubs are still involved and the ones who have backed out, we penalized. But last time I checked, UEFA is the governing body of club football across the world and UEFA says, we don't want this. Perez is punishing them as who? But what fines could that be? What? What fines could that be? I don't think they even deserve a fine because in the first place it's a breakout leak. Because they're saying that there's a clause that stipulates that they could be fined. Maybe while they were signing their contract, how would the contract is binding on who and how? I do not know. But I know UEFA says we can't see this, we're not involved in this, we are the club governing body of the world, we're not involved in this. So they are the only ones who can actually fine and ban anyone. And if they say that they can actually fine each other, then maybe there's a clause that will decide the contract in the course of their clandestine meetings, I do not know. So UEFA that's imposing these fines now, what should we be looking at? Who is the final one? They are all illegal structures. Perez and Real Madrid are all illegal as far as we are concerned. So who is fining who? Is there really, I mean the super league itself hasn't even started. Is there a body that is called... We know for one that this is supposed to be in-adjust. The guy who started this batomio, who was the president Barcelona, has left his position as the president. So Perez and the rest of them have been planned for a long time, not now, you know. Since 2015, Anasem Venga found out that and busted the bubble, but they covered it up and everything, but now it's out and obviously it's failing. And the only reason why it's failing is not because the money is involved, but I think they didn't go about the wrong right way. Coaches should have been involved, players and fans. For example, fans are the same everywhere in the world. They will ask you what's in it for me. If they have money, the classic fans, there's this involved, do we back up? So they have money to spend. So when Perez says it's not over yet, you know, does that mean there's going to be restructuring? When Perez says it's not over yet, I think he's misconception. Say things about him. People will find no. I think what he means is they are going to have a representation of the proposal. I think now they will go the right way, go through the fans, go through the coaches, go through the players, go through the right way. I think they want to rearrange the package all over again. That's what he means by it's not done yet. All right. Thank you very much, Wali Scott, for the update regarding this opinion. Yes. Well, he'll be giving you updates later on at around 9.30, of course, after the news.