 So welcome to the Dardensporn Talk. Now I have three very interesting people in Jitzi. They are coming from far away of this world. They come from as I see Indonesia. They want to tell about utopias also about crash food utopias of Indonesia and I will hand over to you guys and I am very interested. Thank you. It's yours. Thank you very much. Can you hear me? Can you confirm that you can hear me? Yeah. Okay, perfect. Very good. Thank you very much for this. So, exactly. Hello and welcome everyone to this session on democratizing and decolonizing the future also grassroots utopias from Indonesia and so our idea for today was to show you four projects that represent completely different approaches on hacking and making in Indonesia and we chose these because the topic of the conference is basically to dare more utopia and in my opinion that is exactly what the collectives that you will hear from today are doing already. They try to solve social problems and they critique current practices and status quo and they also raise awareness around social societal problems and social problems and they democratize and decolonize technology and they basically do this in order to make the future more equitable. That means that by doing the work that they are doing today they try to create positive futures for their communities and also around the world. So, I personally, my name is Regina and I work at the Technical University of Berlin. I did my field research in Indonesia from my dissertation a few months ago and that's where I met our speakers who are going to be presenting today. So, today first up it's going to be Adin from the hysteria collective from Samaran because you're the first in the alphabet. The second will be Ira from Georgia Kartha who is the founder and director of HONF, our House of Natural Fiber and then we will hear from Gustav who is the founder of Common Room in Bandung and last but not least we will hear from Benny from the Ognom Media Collective in Surabaya. So, they are actually joining us from different parts of Java and of course instead of talking for them I will now ask them to present their project and the idea is to help us understand what they do by showing and explaining some of the projects that they do but the special focus on the technologies they use and also tell us about what social problem they try to solve and explain to us the context of these projects meaning why these projects are necessary in order to create happier and more equitable futures. So, for the next 25 minutes we will learn about the four projects and then we would like to open up the session for a Q&A in which you should feel free to ask questions in German as well. We will be translating these for the panel. So, first up let's hear from Adin who runs the collective with in my opinion the funniest logo in all of Indonesia. And Adin, you will need me to run the presentation or will you do that? Can you share my presentation? Yes, just a sec. I will share my screen which I'm doing right now so we can see your face. And here is your presentation. Okay, because the time is very short, I will start now. So, this is our collective. Basically, we are an artistic collective from Semarang. Semarang is located in the Central Java island. Next. And we call our self-collaboratory and creative impact hub. Because we do many colloquial where many experiments and do something with platform and sometimes with art project. And before we know that our capacity being a hubs, we cannot identify what we are until we realize that these practices, it's more likely hub. So, that's why we are branding our staff this next. And this is our spaces. We rent a house since 2008. And we use this house to do many things like a workshop and exhibition and also do performances. Next. And this is another place in my automatic space. There is backyard and we can use it for doing gigs and music concert. And also we have small library and content with many things from across the city in Indonesia. Next. So, the previous is we have, we do this situation, the lack of participation, public income of urban planning, urbanization and also contestation of planned ownership. And the three government promoted smart city instead involving people to engage in technology that's necessary. And for vulnerability of social solidarity. And the last is lack of sense of belongingness. So, in term of participation of public in Indonesia, the government quarantine asked to participate in the urban planning. But in fact, there is many obstacles to do that. So, in term of artist collective and also that policy in the city issue, we want to do something that as possible as we can as long as fit with our capacity. And next. So, what we are doing now. So, first one we do pressurizing project building engagement. And we use vernacularism as collective memory. I mean, we do ethnographic research in the site specific. And then we do mapping, social mapping, after mapping, and also folklore and something that connected with the collective memory that supporting people becoming one community. It is related with the previous issue that people didn't attach with the place because they feel the place is not special anymore. So, because of that sometimes they just abandon the concern that the place itself. So, that's why press mapping project is very important for us. And to attach people with the place, we using stories and bestial and also social media and some application that that's already available in app store or something like that. So, that's leading us to the third thing is the building to have using available activity. For the, for the example, this is our activity. For the example, we are using Tiktok platform before Tiktok becoming T-RAL. In the, in the, like two years ago, when the government want to ban Tiktok because Tiktok is useless. But we are using it for the, to tell the story. It's, it's, it's happened a long time ago before Tiktok becoming viral. And we, we just practice that you want to reach another audience that's very different with YouTube, Instagram and anything. So, this is basically what we do. We do mapping and also deep interview into community next and bring next and bring this data before that before that and bring this data into online mapping. We are using open street map. We are using open street map and also society platform to do reporting something that happened in that site. Next. And also we create mural with the, related with the, with the story that happened in the place. Next. And also we do scanning for the 3D because we want to create augmented reality tour with using our RASMA. Our RASMA is an application and now becoming HP reveal. So the, the, the basic idea is we are using available application and then using it for our benefit. That's how we use technology in our term. And also next. So this is the, the actual map that we can go to the specific about the, to the site itself to see how to, to see the, the trickery you met can leading us to many stories that we can drink before. Next. Yeah. This is one of our festival in, in Kampung. Kampung is the, the small unit of social community in Indonesia. Next. And the last one we have place and space making machine. We have two, three motorcycle, three, three cycle. What do you call it? Like a three, three wheel motorcycle with a three wheel. So we using this, the, the, what you call it, the, the backers, but what we call it, to create a stage for people can to perform and also make an exhibition in that place. So sometimes we using this to go to small alley to intervene the site and then creating art event or art project. Next. That's the real thing before the event. Next. So now we have many Kampung network, not only in Semarang, but also in another city. And we have connected each other by using WhatsApp group. And also we update all this information through the WhatsApp. Next. It's. Okay. I think it's done. But can, can I share the video? I got two minutes. If it possible. Yes, absolutely. I think that I just need to go back to the video thing and then, and then you can take the screen sharing. Yeah. Okay. We would then move on to your presentation. Sorry. Hello. So I just start. Okay. This is Irana Trivina. So I come, people call me Ira. So I come from Jakarta, Indonesia, three hours from where I did base hysteria base. And so I'm the co-founder of home, home, home foundation, foundation focusing in our science and technology. And I'm also the founder of itself, all female collective that also focusing in our science and technology. I will not speak too much because I have a video that the present almost everything that I want. I wanted to talk and share. So I will share the video is about like five minutes long. And I hope it's clear and entertaining. So I will just start to share it. Yeah. I hope you will enjoy it. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. The way to live. My name is Irana Trivina. So can you hear the sound now? Something like combining with technology. So it becomes a community. And then we move from our home into a little garage, belong to my grandma. Here, hiking means you have to live because sometimes the price is too high and then we hike it. We build the prosthesis from local material like bamboo. That idea come across to our man because it's hard to get prosthesis in here. And sometimes you have to wait for long to get just one prosthesis. Before I came to Australia actually there are a lot like Australian artists came here and we collaborate in some projects. So I was invited at the Melbourne University to do a presentation about our science and technology and then I did the workshop. And I hope in the future we still have more network and connection so we can do more sharing. You want to keep your research open. Why you want to give your knowledge. Why you stick on the openness and why you fight for open culture, open science, open design or open source technology. But I think the open means you give more rather than you take actually about how do you know, but how far do you know about the water that you drink every day and how do you use for what's every day. Three households in here can make it by themselves and then they have clean and safe water to drink every day without have to buy. It will be more easier for us as a women to talk to other women and the women is playing important roles in here because they are the one who do the domestic jobs especially if they are a housewife. So they are the one who control the quality of the health of the families. It's quite sad that we don't want to, it's quite difficult. What's more, we are quite patient, we are quite patient and we actually have a strong desire to understand about something or make something or share things that we have made to other people with a very easy village. We still like gossiping, we still like to know what each other is doing, we still like to help each other and like living kind of like in a big community, in the industry or capitalism in the city, you still have this feeling that you belong to the society. Yeah, so that's actually like, we call it actually domestic hacking and then how it will be like a female or a citizen actually responds to what we call hacking. And I think, do I still have time? Okay, yeah, I think I will do more Q&A later so people can ask me what it does mean like domestic hacking and hacking and then I think we can move to Gustav or Benny or I can put Regina, will you take over again? Yes, I think that the next person is going to be Benny who shared his presentation with me. So I just want to check that we can actually hear you, Benny, and then I will continue with your presentation, yeah. Can you just say a few words? To be muted, we can't hear anything, he seems to be muted, seems to be a local problem. Can you check your microphone connection? In that case, maybe I would move on to Gustav and then we can do some troubleshooting in the background with Benny in the meantime, yeah. Okay, so, okay. Hi, my name is Gustav, I based in Bandung. In the past couple of years we worked closely with the Ciptaglar indigenous community in West Java and tonight I will try to share one of our project on community networks initiative in Ciptaglar indigenous community. So, yeah. Okay, I hope you can see clearly from there. So, in October we plan to organize rural ICT camp. It's part of our project that focusing on local infrastructure community in Ciptaglar village. So, basically why we are interested to work with the indigenous community in Indonesia, in particular this because most of indigenous community in Indonesia is living in a forest area, which is very important for maintaining biodiversity and also have to look and relate that somehow relevant for climate change condition. And in Indonesia I think in many part of the world since the COVID-19 pandemic internet connectivity has become essential tool for many important work. And in Indonesia we have so many significant growth in internet operations, but digital divide are still our issues. And mostly the problem is because there are an absence of internet infrastructure, there are a large difference in bandwidth cost in different islands, unavailability of proper devices and also lack of local content, digital skills and also gender gap. And currently we have at least 12,000 villages that has no internet access and in West Java alone I think around 42,000 students doesn't have any internet access to continue with their study. We are also facing global challenge like many people in different parts of the world. There are huge population growth in Indonesia also increasing gap of development between urban and rural areas. We are also facing the impact of climate change as well as increasing number of people who got affected by the coronavirus pandemic. And ROICT is our effort to support the consolidations of ideas, practice and initiative from common citizen in developing community-based internet infrastructure. This initiative is actually part of digital access program and as well as community-led approach to address digital divide in Indonesia that are supported by association for progressive communications. So our main objective for this project is to overcome digital divide issues through the development of a community-based internet infrastructure. And apart from addressing digital divides, we also try to support the sustainable development agenda, indigenous land rights recognitions as well as mitigation and attention to climate change including the COVID-19 pandemic response and prevention and youth and women empowerment in our region. So there are several again that we are trying to address in this ICT camp. The first is to elaborate the internet ecosystem policy and regulation for rural and remote connectivity in Asia as well as technology and business model including the media literacy and civic empowerment for remote places. So yeah, we are also during the ICT camp we planning to do an inception of training center and media lab that we are trying to develop now and we are going to release a book, a practical guideline for local community-based internet infrastructure development as well as webinars, workshop, sharing session and exhibitions. And so far we have, we already did several preparations like for example regular visit to the village to talk to the chief lender as well as local community that are engaged with this initiative. We just organize a workshop together with ICT Watch, Indonesia ICT Volunteer and Indonesia ISP Associations in order to navigate the rural ICT camp. We also doing a global meeting with our fellow from APC to coordinate and to share some of the recent development from our side. And yeah, I think that is some of the information that I would like to share with you and maybe we can discuss further during the Q&A. Thank you. So it's been cool, thank you very much for that. And then we will move on to Benny if we can hear him. Hello, can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. I can use it to complete some of the audio collected. All right, the only problem is that I can hear some weird feedback sounds, yeah. Yeah, you have to unmute your speakers, unmute your speakers. And just talk. Thank you. Okay, that sounds better. So I'm going to start your presentation, yeah. Can you show the picture of my, yeah. You see it? Yes, this is my artwork since I'm using technology and electronics to make an exhibition next. This is the, I'm using surveillance camera and using like a microscope, the IY and I'm not only by myself to build this artworks. Continue, next, for the X movies, next, this, I'm using microscope. And next, I'm using speakers and many times, many videos. Next, this is gintang markets. The market is located in the center of city of Surabaya and the market is very unique because the market is on the first floor selling of vegetables and goods and for the everyday consume, but the second floor is fully of the electronic and fully of, I'm sorry, the sound of prayer from the mosque is very loud. Can you hear me? Okay, go ahead. Thank you. The sound for, this is even included in Surabaya and some of the electronics is imported from the other countries for the example of the Chinese and the size is so very bigger. Next, for the example this, this is my technician and the technician is very special in the sound and some of the knowledge of the people is learned by myself, by themselves. From the book, they are learning by doing, the situation of the recreation, the situation of the store and some of the technician using. This is the example of the market is closing down, many stores is closed down during pandemic and there is, I just try to come and making a project. Next, to make like the science fiction properties, like the video mechatronics or something else and I just using a plastic or an electronic component to make it any wearable technology. Just as the prayerful to make with the terrestrial technician to make it something together. Next, we call it project, the project is still continued until the end of this year and we need, I need to collaborate with the some technician to make it any possibilities with the sale of the electronic. Next, this is the new prototype, I using many of parts of the Pasar Dinteng, Dinteng markets, I using electronic and I'm using some of the electronics equipment. Next, and they still relax. Next, that is the situation of Pasar Dinteng now. They still happy and they still positive. They still have like a power to survive during the pandemic and because the pandemic is makes still makes everything is going but they still relax and support and power and have like a spirit. Thank you. Thank you very much. Yes. Thank you very, very much for this, not like in my life. But I'm really happy that the Pasar Dinteng people still get to get to relax and not worry about the future. I think the pictures then really quite show how vast the market is and how full it is of all sorts of electronics and bits and pieces. And people just soldering away and making the most fantastic music systems and all of that. So I'm happy that they're doing well. Right. So that was it for the presentations. We've heard a bunch of different societal issues, questions and also attempts to solve these. And if we have any questions from the audience, I would like to jump over to that now because we're supposed to be running out of time in two minutes, right? Well, actually, we can give you five minutes more. We don't have something in the Internet. I have two questions and I have three people in the audience. I don't know whether we have questions there. Doesn't look like that. So my question is, where can we find you guys in the Internet? I think it's important to have some way to connect. So who likes to answer this? I didn't first. Would you like to start? How can we find you? Do you have a website? Do you have an email address? Something you want to share to get in contact with people, hackers from around the world, hackers from Germany? Yes, it's written in my presentation actually in the last page. Okay, we try to put that in our video information. Okay, next. New to the era. You have to push the spacebar. Yeah, so yeah, I wrote in the chat. So you can go to our website, hon.org, and then yeah, you can find everything. So our project and our last project and then also some contacts there. And of course, I have personal email if you want to contact me. But yeah, just go to hon.org. Okay, thank you. For Common Room, you can just visit our website, commonroom.info or maybe also Twitter and Instagram at commonroom underscore ID. And you can find many information also our contact detail in that website and Instagram and Twitter. Thank you. Okay, so my last question is if someone likes to support you guys, will they find information on your website or how can guys from Germany support you with money or maybe with Hack Advice or with whatever? Do you have a funding source you want to mention? In my term, we have no like a long support foundation. So I mean funding. So we sometimes have a project and do what you call it like a cross sub site. Get another job and then to create another project. And sometimes the Ministry of Culture and Education in Indonesia give us some money but it's not enough to make us sustain. So basically we do this because we have a vision and we know that there is a possibility that we can monetize this but not now. Okay, I think that was our questions from the audience and from the internet. And when you don't have to tell anything, I think that will conclude the event. Okay, well thank you very, very much for allowing to share these stories. It was really, really a pleasure. And I hope that that we could show the audience something new, something different. And yeah, you can find the projects online and they will be more than happy to reply to any questions that you might have in the future. And if you go to Indonesia then please make sure that you look for them and that you reach out to them. And they are always extremely generously showing everything that they have. So you can also learn a lot from them on site once this pandemic is over. Okay, thank you. Thank you everyone. Bye bye.